WEBVTT - KJ Live - DeAnthony Langston 0:00:01.280 --> 0:00:10.320 This is kJ Live with Chris john Sallen and Chris 0:00:10.440 --> 0:00:13.680 is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and 0:00:13.920 --> 0:00:20.880 entertainment in the strain. Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:24.919 to being in the kJ Live. Today's guests on the show. 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:29.160 He's director of film Marketing for Up Time Interview Trent. 0:00:29.320 --> 0:00:33.199 He's also one of Southern California's most notorious connectors and 0:00:33.360 --> 0:00:38.560 most iconic influencers. He went to Long Beach State and 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:44.559 Bourbon Day. Is a former international professional the Anthony Lankstein. 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:50.000 Welcome to the show, Brother, Thanks kJ. I appreciate it now. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:52.280 I appreciate you man. You're hard man to track down. 0:00:52.320 --> 0:00:54.440 I know you don't typically do this type of thing, 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:57.440 so it's quite an honor to have you on the show. Brother. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:59.480 What's been up, man? Just what's been up lately? Dog? 0:00:59.520 --> 0:01:02.680 What's been up to? Man? Listen, I'm not gonna lie. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:08.399 I'm blessed. I just having right, you know, you know, 0:01:08.880 --> 0:01:12.880 I'm just having it right. So I'm really really blessed. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.440 I'm just you know, man, Well, that's great to hear. Man. 0:01:17.440 --> 0:01:20.480 I saw on the internet. I believe it's you had 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.679 posted some stuff the other day you were back in 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.960 Slovenia or somewhere overseas. Talk a little bit about that. Man, 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.680 what took you back to Slovenia? Why were you out there? 0:01:28.760 --> 0:01:36.240 Dog d a stuff? Right? Well, Um, every time the 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:40.080 Marvericks come in town, I go support Nico. You know, 0:01:40.440 --> 0:01:45.160 Nico Harrison, the director and you know him through my 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:49.840 little brother overseas, you know, and Nike VP and Nike 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:53.680 like twenty years something like that. Now he's the president 0:01:53.840 --> 0:01:57.240 and the manager of Mathis. You know, I was just 0:01:57.280 --> 0:02:00.000 going down to see him when they come down. That's 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.000 the time on the go to you know, see lakes 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:07.640 and clippers and so, you know, I noticed some people 0:02:07.720 --> 0:02:12.799 in my seat. It's like, okay, no problem, I'll sit 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.400 five rolls back. You know, I'm just chilling. So the 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.799 fourth quarters coming and I'm still chilling. So some cats 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.840 come up like yo, man, you know our seats out 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:26.160 look like because there were seats really right, said listen, bro, 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:29.520 my seat to down there. Okay, right, don't act like 0:02:29.560 --> 0:02:32.000 I'm just is. You know, I'm not supposed to be 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:35.160 right there. My seats are down there. Bro, So dude, 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:36.799 I go down to my seats. You know what I'm 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.120 saying one of the cats of sitting in my seats. 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.080 I said, excuse me, I said, uh, it's my seat 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:43.880 and they kicked me out. Was sitting back there. They 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.760 kicked me out, man, So I'm sorry, I don't have 0:02:46.840 --> 0:02:48.919 anywhereas he said, what do you mind if I scoot 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.440 over us? Not at all? Sitting down wrapping to him, 0:02:53.800 --> 0:02:58.040 and I hear him talking some language that I'm familiar with, right, 0:02:58.840 --> 0:03:07.480 and so we're language you guys, you guys from like Sylvaniassikaya. 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:13.080 Way wait, you say what Cokaya? What's Coasakaya? How are 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:17.560 you doing? That's a little Duncan ship. Yeah, bro, you 0:03:17.600 --> 0:03:21.360 know what I'm saying straight up. That's my team right here, 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:25.639 all right. So so wait, do you're telling me that you, 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:29.200 by chance you went to visit Niko Harrison to President 0:03:29.280 --> 0:03:33.320 GM of the Mavericks at the Laker game. You got 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.960 your seat, someone was actually sitting in your seats. Fourth quarter, 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:38.760 com somebody kicks you out your seats, So you go 0:03:38.800 --> 0:03:41.000 to your original seat and ask the people that are 0:03:41.000 --> 0:03:42.360 sitting there in the move and they happened to be 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:47.920 so Slovenian cast that knew you. Listen, bro, So I'm talking. 0:03:48.400 --> 0:03:53.240 He's like, uh, who are you? I just like, you 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.920 know you Cooper, I said, because Eric Cooper play over 0:03:56.960 --> 0:03:59.840 there with me. We're the first Americans over there. Okay, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:04.480 so he cool, eat cool eat cool? I said, no, 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:09.440 I'm you see him just right up. He's like Langston 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:13.520 I said yeah. He said, oh my god, man, I 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.480 used to watch you when I was a kid over 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.040 I'm the director of Olympia now man, It's like, what 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.719 are you like? So he starts telling to the rest 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:26.279 of the people with Olympia that's there watching Luca. You know, like, yo, 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.560 this is the Anthony Legs and it's like, oh my god, man. 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:33.720 So you know that was that was a special moment. Then, 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:38.800 you know, I saw Luca's dad, you know there, you know, 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:41.800 look as that part, you know, Looka's dad or you 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:43.880 play again some way. No, No, he was on a 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.440 younger team when I was over there. You know what 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:50.599 I'm saying, Sode, real quick, real quick. Let's establish this. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:52.560 What team did you play for over there? What's the 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:56.520 name of the club Olympia? Okay, okay, And that's saying 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:02.440 Luke Lubijana, Lubiana, Lubiana, Lubiana. Okay, It's like the Yankees, 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:11.000 the Bear Liver Cools and yeah, not for France, not Lemo. 0:05:12.440 --> 0:05:15.359 They just ridled off some of the games. That was historical. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.719 Bro Well. Actually in the eight late eighties and nineties, 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:23.120 Lemoes was so off the debt. Remember Kevin Michael Brooks. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.080 It was another dude, Kevin McKie. That was awesome because 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.680 Lamos they had like five Americans. They had a bunch 0:05:27.680 --> 0:05:30.760 of French dah my man, what's what No, he played 0:05:30.800 --> 0:05:34.240 in Israel. Kevin McGee, That's what I'm thinking of. They 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.360 did have Kevin McGee. Kevin McGee is one of the 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.640 best internationals ever. Though. Kevin McGee was a monster. So 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:44.800 he was unbelievable. I remember, you know, I remember him. Yeah, 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.279 he was like all American. Yea, he killed over there. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:51.479 I know he was. Okay, go ahead. So at the 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.760 game and we're talking, you know, man, just like nose, 0:05:56.560 --> 0:06:00.240 you know, started talking about the seventy five year anniversary 0:06:00.279 --> 0:06:04.800 of our team Olympia. This year is the seventy five 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:08.240 year anniversarys praises the NBA seventy five years. So they're 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:12.599 doing these you know, honoring people. You haven't folks, come, 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:17.760 I'm just looking. I'm like like, bro, I'm like, I'm 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.360 telling my teammates boys slout code Roman. You know, I'm 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.560 hitting them over the phone. It's like, dude, I see 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.279 you man. You guys can't get me down there. It 0:06:26.480 --> 0:06:29.920 was going on. So I run into them and it's 0:06:29.920 --> 0:06:31.560 just like when we love it, how you come down? 0:06:31.600 --> 0:06:36.080 I'm like, what from there? You know it was down there? 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:41.120 You know, you know it was a wonderful time. Man. 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.039 You know, my boy boys picked me up from the airport. 0:06:44.560 --> 0:06:47.960 You know that many people trying to be there from 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.320 the airport. It's crazy, bro, you know what I'm saying, 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:54.479 just like you know, yeah, you know, so I was. 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:57.320 I was fortunate, so I hadn't been there since ninety three, 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:01.560 and so they my cod It's it's like an iconic coacht, 0:07:01.720 --> 0:07:08.080 Mango's Agathan over there. Okay, magic coacht. That's by far. 0:07:08.440 --> 0:07:10.480 But that's really cool man, that you still were able 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:14.920 to maintain that rapport overseas. I totally get it. I 0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:18.560 had the same type of situation over in Qatar, Bro, 0:07:18.680 --> 0:07:21.000 twenty years ago. I put it down out there. Man, 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:24.440 them dudes, I'm still friends with them dudes to this day. 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:26.480 Due that's a hell of a journey man, just to 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:28.800 even have that type of story to talk about, Bro, 0:07:29.800 --> 0:07:32.320 you know, being cool twenty years later, to be able 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:35.600 to rock out, being honored literally in Slovenia home and 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:39.520 look at nine years excuse me, excuse me twenty nine 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:42.760 years ago. Bro, I guess that really just speaks to 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:46.720 you know how you put it down over there? Yeah, 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.960 you know, I mean we all like to go places, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.480 and you know, we always gave aff so you can 0:07:53.520 --> 0:07:56.880 never fought that from us. Sometimes it's just special, you know. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:08:00.880 And you know European Cup team, you know, you know, 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:04.400 walking to gym the first day because I'm talking to 0:08:04.560 --> 0:08:06.720 Eric Cooper because he hits me up, It's like, yo, 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.080 you know, d come on over man. I was just like, bro, 0:08:09.160 --> 0:08:12.800 anything worn over there? You know, like no, no, I said, Man, 0:08:12.880 --> 0:08:14.760 come on, Bro'm be having me coming over there. I 0:08:14.800 --> 0:08:17.720 gonna be real hot at you. Bro. You know, so 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.680 like no, man, it's ressaid, look though, not have me 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:25.239 come over here, man. You know what I'm saying. Russ 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:27.680 he said about it. You know, a couple of weeks ago, 0:08:27.760 --> 0:08:30.760 you've seen some tanks come through here, but they kept 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:34.120 going and this and I'm like, so I started researching it. 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:36.880 You know, I'm just like, okay, you know what over there, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:40.840 first day of practice, I walk in see cast seven, one, 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:45.200 six and eleven sixteen six times, I'm like cast three 0:08:45.320 --> 0:08:48.320 sixty and five twenty going. I'm like, oh wow, we 0:08:48.920 --> 0:08:53.319 this is sick right here. Man. So I originally they 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:58.120 had signed somebody else in Russia to come over and 0:08:58.160 --> 0:09:00.400 he couldn't play. He couldn't he couldn't just pay work. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.240 So was the last minute distance right? So they they 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:06.400 get me. Okay, we got this big dude whatever. You know, 0:09:06.480 --> 0:09:09.839 we got other players cool. So we wasn't really playing 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:13.600 that much early on, now what I'm staying, we really weren't. 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.920 It was like tripping me out. I'm just like, oh man, 0:09:15.960 --> 0:09:18.400 what's going on? You know what I mean? You know, 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:23.680 I mean it got so bad that I quit playing 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:29.880 hard against the practice and because the more I would dominant, 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:33.520 like unless I would play. So Smigle hits me up 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:40.160 one day. You know when you first come here, you 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:43.960 know you dominate. Now you don't do ships? That is 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.920 that how your smile? Impersonation? Your impersonation European coach right there? 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:55.480 Not a good one. Not a lot of smuggy, so 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.680 I said to more dominant, ain't your guys unless I play. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:05.600 So I don't know what's cooling up right? Sure you 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.480 think I care about these little games right here, right 0:10:08.520 --> 0:10:13.280 now we're getting ready for euro League. You know I don't. 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:21.160 I don't know. So what's up? Opening rhyme right in Istanbul? 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:29.200 So I'm like, uh, Sloko get hurt, that's all. Kevin 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:32.440 McHale six eleven K. He gets hurt. So he's out 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.520 for a couple of months. So I'm the next man up. 0:10:36.160 --> 0:10:41.480 I'm looking forward to this, right. So you know, they 0:10:41.520 --> 0:10:46.160 make a phone call to Utah. Our junior national team 0:10:46.240 --> 0:10:50.000 is there playing in Utah, Serania. So he brings Mario 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.520 back seven, one cat from a junior team to start 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.240 in front of me the European Cup game, straight from 0:10:56.240 --> 0:11:02.920 straight from America. Okay, I'm that's shady, man, that's why. 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.200 But but but to have that experience internationally when you 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:08.880 first started playing the game, bro take us back to 0:11:08.920 --> 0:11:12.080 the beginning. Man, did you ever dream of being a 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.280 pro as a child when you were growing up? Where 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:15.920 were you from? Man? Like, how did you get started 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.439 in the game. That's kind of what I want off 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:22.360 our audience to get the picture of well, you know, 0:11:22.440 --> 0:11:27.240 I didn't start vault why not? Why not? Why not? 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:29.680 Why didn't start playing ball in the the ninth grade? And 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:34.280 in my neighborhood, Uh, they were playing the gym. Yeah, 0:11:34.280 --> 0:11:35.920 I guess they at least going to the gym. But 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:37.959 we couldn't go up to to gym. You know what 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.880 I'm saying, Moms wouldn't happen. That was what neighborhood is 0:11:40.920 --> 0:11:45.719 this Nickerson Gardens. Okay, So to tap the table of 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:51.600 Nickerson Gardens housing projects. Um, when the housing projects situation started, 0:11:51.640 --> 0:11:55.520 which was what the sixties, the early sixties, the fifties, 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.760 there were what four major projects or was Nickerson Guardens 0:11:58.760 --> 0:12:00.520 one of the original four? And just write that down 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:04.200 for me. Oh, Knickson Garden is definitely you know what 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:07.199 it was. It was meant for people in the military, 0:12:08.720 --> 0:12:14.000 military and stuff like that, the brick housing and all that. 0:12:14.840 --> 0:12:18.320 And so when the people were coming from the south 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:25.120 coming down here and stand these temporary cribs, it was like, YO, 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:30.199 ship way better than ours, you know down south, Like Yo, 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:32.760 the weather is great out here, you know, I mean 0:12:33.640 --> 0:12:36.120 the nice apartments, you know what I'm saying. It's like 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:39.440 it's you know, everybody's working the long storm in the military. 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:41.679 That's what I was in the projects, you know what 0:12:41.760 --> 0:12:46.440 I'm saying. Very interesting came on. You know some people 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.280 made it out. You know, a lot of people staying 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:58.040 in my life. My family, I say, no question, sixty 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:05.800 sixty years in there. My family, grandmother, Mom threw us 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:12.079 the women and your family obviously my mother, my mother, 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:16.679 my grandmother moved over there from Compton. Yeah, a manner 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:19.200 of places. It's supposed to be some nice place. Comes 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:22.920 your pop. You didn't know your pops. You know Pops. 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.200 You know Pops, and you know he lived somewhere else. 0:13:26.240 --> 0:13:29.600 He wasn't married to mom. He had family and and 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:31.000 what a mom to do? What a mom to do? 0:13:31.160 --> 0:13:39.000 As as occupation, my mom was alone shoreman okay, um 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.040 you know uh she put it down the tie ship 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:44.920 yard for years. So you know, I mean, we grew 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:48.480 up in the projects. But I didn't know poor, you 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:49.920 know what I'm saying. So when I talked to some 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:54.640 of my guys, now we talked about I just started, man, 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:58.199 I was hungry. Why was you hungry? He had no food? 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:03.199 I saw. I didn't fathom that not having clothes and food. 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:06.480 You know what I'm saying. My apartments always spick. His 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:08.840 span was always sick. You know what I'm saying. It 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:12.720 was like, you know, everybody knew I couldn't come over. 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:14.600 All the homies do they can knock come over with 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.000 my career, you know what I'm saying, no hanging out. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.240 You know what I'm saying. You may get this off. 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.520 Knock knock the snake here. You know I'm the Anthony here. 0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.480 You may get that off, right. Did you say snake? Oh? Yeah, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.360 wait mane, that's what that's was your nick name back 0:14:28.400 --> 0:14:31.440 in the day, childhood name? Yeah, okay, the hood name 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:35.480 was snake, So snake alright, But you know, you know 0:14:35.520 --> 0:14:38.200 why why I want to know why? I want to know? 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:44.560 Tell me Kitty Staple was my idol? Okay, the Raiders 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:48.480 q be Yeah, absolutely, that was my idol. Bro. So 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:51.720 I just flipped on the dudes today. You snake man. 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.400 You know what I'm saying, this is that this is 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:56.080 that they still call me that and I'll go over 0:14:56.080 --> 0:15:00.560 there in the day's kill So nobody was hooping. Yeah, 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:05.160 you know, we were playing football and baseball. Okay, why 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.320 why was football baseball? Pop? Because you can just go 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:11.880 to the field of the hoops was messed up. You 0:15:11.920 --> 0:15:17.040 could do one on one strike out. Oh yeah, yeah, 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:19.920 you got the bad He got the glove and he's 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:22.160 pitching to you. He's trying to strike you out and 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.680 you're trying to hit it one. We're there hours doing 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:32.720 that and then football. You know you got okay s 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:36.640 the Douce line. You know what I'm saying. Our football 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.040 team right here and playing against the fire line. You 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.960 know what I'm saying. You are playing football because you're 0:15:41.960 --> 0:15:44.800 going outside your apartment door every day. That's the parking 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:47.520 lot right there. Then later on they built the midifield 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:50.560 right there. But we are playing football right there. At 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:54.320 the early age, I had O. J. Simpson juice uniform 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:59.000 Buffalo builds back and so you was was rocket with 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:01.560 the juice. Let me this did you grow up? I 0:16:01.600 --> 0:16:03.920 talked to my dad. So he grew up at when 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.160 he was on the show. He grew up at like 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:09.920 Sportsmen's Park, Jesse Owens Park, um and so like James 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.960 lost In and some of these others and some of it. 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:13.880 So who did you grow up with? Guys like when 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:16.440 you were younger playing like the street football, the street 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:18.840 baseball games or anything like any cats that that made 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:23.800 it out or anything. But later on like ed catching 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:29.000 you and LV know that that team over there with 0:16:29.600 --> 0:16:32.760 eighty four. You know we talk right there with Jordan 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:38.080 High School. You know Ernest kill him, Oregan State Rest 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:41.920 in Peace. You know he's from the community right there. Uh, 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.720 you know Andre Miller, but you know the naturally they're younger, 0:16:45.560 --> 0:16:48.920 great age younger. So my age really man, you know, 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:56.560 it wasn't man. And you know where I come from. 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.160 You know, it's like the school sections is so tough. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:00.720 You know what I'm saying, Like when you get to 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:03.640 the junior high schools because I went to Hunt Toss 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:07.600 the school can you guard through five? That's in the projects. 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.560 Sixth grade, I went to Water Avenue. Myns got his 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.840 bust to Warter Avenues. So where's the where's the Water 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:18.080 Avenue located? Uh? Is that West l A. You know 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.720 what's that? So? Was that? Was that a big culture 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:22.480 change for you to go to school around white people 0:17:22.480 --> 0:17:25.240 primarily or listen, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:28.000 to you. When I first came in there, I was 0:17:28.080 --> 0:17:32.320 like this, damn they all looking like you know people 0:17:33.760 --> 0:17:36.320 and it looks like, how did you tell him apart? 0:17:36.480 --> 0:17:39.680 You know, so as each day came by, you know 0:17:39.760 --> 0:17:43.800 what I'm saying, it's like, okay, that's okay, yeah, okay, okay, 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.200 But yeah, man, it was you know, it was different. 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.840 Many Reperton's son and daughter went there, you know many 0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.120 the singer Yeah okay, okay, Yeah, son and daughter went there, 0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:58.240 Mark his sisters. Did you ever experience any kind of 0:17:58.280 --> 0:18:02.080 like weirdness from not necessary from the people at the 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.239 school because you was coming from the east side and 0:18:04.280 --> 0:18:06.760 so as we know, as as people are waring familiar 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:10.159 with the east side, the east Side people, when you 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:11.920 grow up on the Eastide, you have a different energy. 0:18:11.960 --> 0:18:13.880 It's a way different energy, and then the west side. 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:16.440 So did did people kind of be like, yo, man, 0:18:16.480 --> 0:18:18.000 what's up with this cat right here? Or did you 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.879 kind of fit in because of who you wore at 0:18:19.880 --> 0:18:22.000 your core and because of the ethics and morals and 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.080 mom said, it's still then you already How did that 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:28.280 work for you? Well, going there, it was definitely a 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:30.320 cultural shock. I was just I think that was the 0:18:30.320 --> 0:18:31.960 first year of bus when that's the first year we 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:34.320 got you know what I'm saying, maybe somebody did else 0:18:34.400 --> 0:18:36.119 a year before. But you know, we was like one 0:18:36.119 --> 0:18:39.520 of the first one get bust. And so I remember 0:18:39.520 --> 0:18:43.560 one of the teachers was after this reveness just like hey, 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:47.159 you know, I want everybody to right down. She was 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.000 talking about slang. I didn't know what these she was 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:51.720 talking about. You know, it's like, hey, you know names 0:18:51.760 --> 0:18:54.280 that you're talking to the neighborhood. But later on it's like, Yo, 0:18:54.359 --> 0:18:57.439 what's up? You know this and that this that I like, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:59.760 I didn't, I don't know she was talking about. You know, 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.840 you know, I just have no idea what're talking about 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.760 because I just wasn't used to that, you know, I 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:11.639 had uh, you know, it was a great experience. It 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:15.520 really wasn't from from there. I went to Emmerson. I 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.240 went to Emmerson Dog by the Mormon Temple. Yes, I 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:22.880 went to Emmacon. Emmacons is in the heart of Westwood. 0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:25.760 It's about five to seven minutes away from u c 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.879 l A. Talk about so, so you went from so Dog, 0:19:28.920 --> 0:19:32.119 you went to Warner app you went to Emmerson. Fox 0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:35.240 Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.520 Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.560 Com and within the I Heart radio app search f 0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:45.320 s R to listen live. Was it weird? D kind 0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:48.040 of taking a step back? Wasn't weird at all? Because 0:19:48.040 --> 0:19:49.600 I think we got some synergies and we got some 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.040 stuff we share here. Wasn't weird to go from the 0:19:53.119 --> 0:19:55.720 two different worlds when you woke up in the morning, 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.000 you leave in one world, you hold it down for 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.680 about eight hours in this world. Then when you then 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:02.919 you got to go back to the original world that 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:05.520 you started at. Did that mess with you at all? 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:08.640 Did you find yourself changing as a human or did 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:10.359 you always kind of because you know, sometimes you gotta 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.760 be white or talk white or talk a certain way 0:20:12.760 --> 0:20:15.320 in that world. Other times you could be yourself or 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:19.160 were you yourself throughout? Man? Listen, I was absolutely having 0:20:19.200 --> 0:20:23.400 my way up there. And you hear me stumping whatever, 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.040 you know, just as scams scoring on the whole thing. 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.119 Do you know what I'm saying? Wait, what kind of 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:38.080 scams was going up? Tickets? Now later? You know down later? 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:42.880 You hit them off? Please, man, I would know they're 0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.960 getting it. Gummy bears. You know, how much for the later? 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:48.119 How much? How much for the now that is? Bro? 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:51.280 How much per now later? Bro? A dime or quarter, 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.760 I don't know whatever, you're them for the quarter for 0:20:53.880 --> 0:20:56.919 it an hour later. Listen, bro, they was they had it. 0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:00.360 You know what I'm saying, I'm just like a Mazas bro. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:04.640 I'm just it's different level up here. Man. Then too, 0:21:04.760 --> 0:21:08.280 like during that time, I totally many that whole thing 0:21:08.520 --> 0:21:12.080 both was going down right, So all the all the 0:21:12.080 --> 0:21:14.440 Persians up there, you know, it was like really cool 0:21:14.480 --> 0:21:16.800 and I was one of these you know what I'm saying, 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:20.520 this is that wow, you know, but to learn about 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:24.200 their culture and what they was going through the revolution, 0:21:24.320 --> 0:21:27.600 and you know to today when they're suppressed, you know, 0:21:27.640 --> 0:21:29.200 I guess you know they can't do what they want 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:33.600 to do, you know. Uh so just different people, you know. 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:40.359 You know, I got some amazing chest that I went 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.679 to school with over the years. I just looking out 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:45.760 something I always do. I could repeat, oh you know 0:21:45.760 --> 0:21:48.520 the type. You know what I'm saying, just you know 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:52.000 it just it was great though. So I did that 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:58.680 for two years and I kicked out, got kicked out, 0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.800 you m h. Mr Chapman kicking out. He end up 0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:07.080 getting the rest of years later, you know, shild pornography stuff, 0:22:07.119 --> 0:22:10.040 you know what I'm saying stuff, you know, kicking me 0:22:10.080 --> 0:22:12.720 on some bs and know I was having I was 0:22:12.760 --> 0:22:15.920 having fun. I was having a lot of fun there. 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:20.399 And uh so then the next year I end up 0:22:20.440 --> 0:22:24.280 going to uh you know it's Hollywood High School. What's 0:22:24.280 --> 0:22:27.040 school that I know? It's Hollywood Hi with the Emmerson 0:22:27.960 --> 0:22:33.400 and then Walter Reeve Walter ree Rose over the Reid 0:22:36.040 --> 0:22:43.080 cool having it. Get up there one day cat listen 0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:46.359 man talking what b B B b B you know 0:22:46.359 --> 0:22:48.640 what I'm saying right in front of the Dean or whatever. 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.040 Oh you out of here? Prew me up out of there, bro. 0:22:52.400 --> 0:22:59.760 You know so they you know, Moms was like the 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:05.800 all right, she checked me in the market. That's gladiated 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:12.080 school and Watts all right, they know nothing. It's glad 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:15.080 at school or a kid in junior high school. You're 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:19.880 going there is own absolutely, it ain't no I live 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.760 over here. I don't think it's none of that from 0:23:22.760 --> 0:23:25.919 the Nicks from Georgia. You know what I'm saying, and 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.959 it miss media. It's the most six thing you know 0:23:29.119 --> 0:23:32.840 that that you know you could you could have you 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:34.920 know what I'm saying. Not being comfortable in the school 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.399 environ you know, so I remember my first day school. 0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:44.320 I was like, I'm gonna keep this stuff sports, football, baseball. 0:23:44.520 --> 0:23:46.800 You know, I hadn't gotten a bad basketball. Get It's 0:23:46.840 --> 0:23:51.560 gonna keep this stuff short. You know, I'm not hanging on. 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:56.440 I mean my boys, like dudes, uh three or four 0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:00.720 years old, some of the most Torris dudes ever next 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.760 the card. I mean my friends. You know what I'm saying, 0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:10.920 They just you know, and uh, I'm like, uh, after 0:24:10.960 --> 0:24:14.880 school Friday, never forget, you know, Friday, it's on. There's 0:24:14.880 --> 0:24:17.919 no question. You know what great streets of meeting at 0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:21.879 the back of the fence, railroad tracks, Bunny and Icenda 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:25.520 they meet nowhere in the front. I'm going to dig, 0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:28.560 you know, to the crib. So I'm not nobody's wife, 0:24:28.840 --> 0:24:32.879 you know, getting to the house, right, bro? So like 0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:37.119 who like bust on me with a twelve gate? You 0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:39.800 know I'm saying. When I was going across the fence 0:24:40.320 --> 0:24:44.240 by myself with my book bag, is that, bro, I 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:47.159 took so many short cubs getting honk. I'm thinking somebody 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.159 was coming after. You know what I'm saying, And you 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.240 know that's what it was going to market. It was tough. 0:24:53.520 --> 0:24:56.040 It was just like it was no, and like in 0:24:56.080 --> 0:24:59.800 the sixth grade and the sixth period, you know I 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:05.840 I would shop metal class. The metal class is touching 0:25:05.880 --> 0:25:10.840 the tracks, the railroad tracks in the back with the 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:13.879 people from the Jordan downs when they getting ready. So 0:25:14.520 --> 0:25:17.480 all right here you see, you know, so you gotta 0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:20.520 bounce when that warning bill come, when they clean up, Bill, 0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.760 lean up. I'm dipping out. You know what I'm saying. 0:25:23.240 --> 0:25:26.639 Somebody catching you right there? You know they pressing is 0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:29.160 what it is. You know, twenty to one of don't 0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:31.359 matter you guys, you know how many bess simple as 0:25:31.400 --> 0:25:35.680 that right there? So you know, next year I was 0:25:35.760 --> 0:25:38.280 tripping in school. I went to another school and then 0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:42.040 moms uh end up sitting me the riverside with my 0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:45.600 pops part of the ninth grade year and part of 0:25:45.640 --> 0:25:48.560 temper and I went to all these high school so 0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:51.359 you know some notable guys out there that were in 0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:54.560 the league. Billy Walker, you know from J. W. North 0:25:55.160 --> 0:25:58.080 Tony Walker's brother. You know those two do probably got 0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:01.640 like ten thousand assistant. I was at Monkston as long 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:06.640 we l m U. You know what I'm saying, Uh, 0:26:07.119 --> 0:26:11.280 Kelvin Butler, Kevin Butler, once U C. L a er 0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.800 A Live the Keble could really play in high school 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:17.720 market frong with l m u Enoch Simmons, Greg Matthews, 0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:20.359 you know, Reggie Miller. You know what I'm saying that. 0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:22.440 You know they are all in that league, right and 0:26:22.640 --> 0:26:26.399 I believe you know, so you know that's when I 0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:29.919 started hooping. When I went out there, there's like, YO, 0:26:30.119 --> 0:26:32.520 six three ninth grade from l A Man, you know 0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.440 what I'm saying. I'm here, but you know, I had 0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:40.000 not played hoop before going out there, so naturally I 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.720 was as good as everybody hoped I was, you know, 0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.720 but I was like maybe the you know eight nine 0:26:48.840 --> 0:26:54.400 eight man on JV or whatever ninth grade. So uh, 0:26:55.280 --> 0:26:59.080 going into the tenth grade. You know how the forest 0:26:59.080 --> 0:27:02.920 scene in JV split up. We need the same gym 0:27:02.960 --> 0:27:05.400 practice at the same time. Varsity go down here, JB 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:09.760 go down to this side, So you know, I'm going 0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.760 to JV and coach area like the Anthony go down 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.679 this way are It's like what I mean, I go 0:27:15.840 --> 0:27:20.920 from just planning and now I'm down there practice with divorce. Okay, 0:27:20.960 --> 0:27:23.840 I'm shooting a couple of sides and coach area on YO. 0:27:26.320 --> 0:27:28.520 If you're gonna take that shot right there. You gotta 0:27:28.560 --> 0:27:31.000 make an eight ten times, so that means you gotta 0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.480 shoot after practice there you understand me. Oh yeah, so 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.000 that free to line jumper, you know when I was dead, 0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:40.159 you know, so wh wa wa wa in that in 0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:47.680 that going on? So and moving back uh to l a, 0:27:49.280 --> 0:27:51.240 you know, trying to find a school. I was like 0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:56.000 chesting the buston morning side. Free your mind to watch. 0:27:56.640 --> 0:27:58.520 You know, you're trying to getting schools back in the day. 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:00.560 You're trying to get into decent school, trying to find 0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:06.520 somebody that's gonna let you in. You know, no, no, no, no, okay, 0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:11.280 well there, so I went to lock lock. Now where's 0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:17.320 lock located? Okay? How close is that to Nickerson Gardens? 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:21.399 It's probably like two miles from me walk. Okay, so 0:28:21.800 --> 0:28:23.520 you walk to school. You walk the lock every day. Now, 0:28:24.080 --> 0:28:26.359 now it sounds like if two miles, so what was 0:28:26.440 --> 0:28:28.880 your local high school? Then what was the high school 0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:33.440 closest to the Nikosons. It's really actually compor Centennial. So 0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:37.280 if you're walking the lock, how are they acting about 0:28:37.359 --> 0:28:40.040 you coming to school? Over there? Was? That? Was it 0:28:40.080 --> 0:28:48.160 all good? And they jumped on me up there jumped 0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:54.200 on me. Bro, straight up, they jumped on you know, 0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.600 shout up to up time, you know, right here man 0:28:58.720 --> 0:29:01.800 go pine apple love it. No, they jumped on me. 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.040 So you know I had to figure out. You know, 0:29:06.960 --> 0:29:09.240 So I was ditching in Vermin day because I was 0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:12.720 scared to go back to school. Right, they were waiting 0:29:14.480 --> 0:29:20.120 waiting for me to come the game members waiting for Hey. 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:24.160 So I'm dead to the Vermin day because one of 0:29:24.200 --> 0:29:33.200 my boys is that mean everything. Okay, okay, So I'm 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:35.280 ditching the verb because I know if I go back 0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:39.240 a lock, you know it's h I gotta have certain 0:29:39.280 --> 0:29:42.280 boys that are there with me, missing school. You're doing 0:29:42.320 --> 0:29:44.360 all types of stuff. How what are you telling mom? 0:29:44.560 --> 0:29:47.760 Or is she at work all day? Moms is at work? 0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:54.200 Mom at work? So mab one time, No, some dudes 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:57.400 like rush me. So I had some dudes from that 0:29:57.520 --> 0:29:59.520 side of the town, like there was a hoop team 0:29:59.560 --> 0:30:04.800 and hey, hey, just and messing with it. So one 0:30:04.920 --> 0:30:09.479 day I'm going to lock. It's coldest. Heck, I got 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:13.400 a T shirt on, right, and Mom's like we're jacking 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.160 at Remember the blue hoodie you had back there that 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:22.600 chipped up the blue and black joints. Yeah, yeah, I 0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.800 couldn't find my eyes. Somebody got me for it. So 0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:31.080 Mom's like here mom working shipyards. She pulled a red 0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:34.040 and black penalty app and threw it to me and 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.880 told me put it on. You bet not lose this. 0:30:38.720 --> 0:30:41.360 I can't tell Mom came with it's something there, Are 0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.920 you kidding me? Put it's wrong with you? None of that. 0:30:45.400 --> 0:30:48.720 She doesn't understand its other you know what's going on? 0:30:48.960 --> 0:30:54.840 Really award up there, and it's just like it was unbelievable. 0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.040 Dudes like boy, like, why would you wear that up 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.720 um everywhere? You know what I'm saying. You know you 0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:02.920 can't make this type of stuff up. But you know, 0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:08.200 it's just just what it is, you know. So my boys, 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.640 that was riders up there from that side there was 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:14.680 a team or whatever. It's like, hey, we're gonna walk 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.720 you out. You gotta find another school man. You got 0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:19.600 much love for you, but you can't come here though. 0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:22.440 You know what I'm saying, that they own you. I'm 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.640 a verb. Yeah whop my boys you know they they 0:31:26.720 --> 0:31:31.479 in Pe. So uh, the JV coach is hitting me up. 0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:33.560 I started to run because I don't know that I 0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.280 was supposed to be up to right if I said 0:31:35.320 --> 0:31:42.560 my name right, here's what it is. So he asked 0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:44.160 me where I go to school. I told you Mark, 0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:45.880 He said, you want to come here. I want to 0:31:45.920 --> 0:31:48.160 come here my whole life, and I can't afford it. 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:52.520 He said, you know, I think you know I could 0:31:52.600 --> 0:31:56.000 help you out. Said follow me. So I'm thinking about 0:31:56.080 --> 0:31:58.600 running about to take me, about to call the police, 0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:00.520 you know, all that type of stuff. So I'll go 0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:06.120 off to the front and UH introduced me to father 0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:10.239 James Thomas Sayings, who was a president of school UH 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:15.360 Sports Biking of Southern California seventy eighties. M sit down 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.480 and talk to him and he's like, hey, you know 0:32:17.760 --> 0:32:20.040 you want to go here, said I've always wanted for 0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:23.520 the first just can't afford this, you know, he said, 0:32:23.600 --> 0:32:27.000 I love. Well, make you a deal if you come 0:32:27.080 --> 0:32:30.160 work for me on Sundays during being three hours, nine 0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:35.800 and twelve. That would be a tuitioning. Yes, what is bingo? 0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:40.480 What is being don't the citizens playing bingo? Is it 0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:43.720 a game? Yeah? Bingo? I don't know, I don't know 0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.720 what beingo with. So it's a game, so b card 0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.000 board game? Okay, cardboard game. Yeah. So you know you 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:56.640 they're picking in numbers B forty four, you know, B 0:32:56.800 --> 0:32:59.080 I N G O. See the citizens love it right, 0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.120 helping out Ms Harris is you know like when I 0:33:04.240 --> 0:33:08.280 finished that, like in her little kitchen, you know, she 0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:13.400 got the black and white TV watching the NFL. It's 0:33:13.400 --> 0:33:15.160 at that time. It is my favorite sport, you know what. 0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:18.000 I'm watching the NFL and all the games. Right there 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:22.440 she's cooking me in his five chicken this uh this 0:33:22.880 --> 0:33:28.840 cheesy macaroni and cheese, some greens, you know, like soda. 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:32.200 It was unbelievable, man. So that's how I got an 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:36.560 a verb what's out by by doing the being yeah, 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.960 you know, working working on the weekend, doing being man. 0:33:40.080 --> 0:33:43.800 So you know I was, you know, I remember buff 0:33:43.800 --> 0:33:47.920 for remember Buffarillo. I remember buff really there's my story 0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:51.880 about buff Relo. I think I appeared on his radio show. 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:53.720 I showed up with my dad. I was about twelve 0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.960 years old because Buffarillo was a radio guy and it 0:33:57.120 --> 0:33:59.880 was me Buffarillo. My dad is Sydney Weeks. And that 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.680 when I first heard the Sidney Wicks talk about how 0:34:03.200 --> 0:34:05.680 he lets his game do the talking, like he wasn't 0:34:05.760 --> 0:34:07.320 much of a talker. He just let his game do 0:34:07.400 --> 0:34:10.320 the talking. But that's my butch real story allegenda. So 0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:14.040 you know, we we have our banquet and when I 0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:17.239 come to verb, they are already good. You know. I 0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:19.880 come in like they already got played like eleven twelve games, 0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:23.320 so you know, figuring out. So we're at a banquet 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:26.719 and I met the boy for REALO, I don't know 0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:29.600 who he was. He got up on the microphones like 0:34:29.719 --> 0:34:32.399 you know. I told father James, I did not want 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.800 to come here today. I just wasn't feeling good. I 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:39.160 made a promise just this wasn't feeling I met this kid, 0:34:39.280 --> 0:34:42.320 the Anthony Lankson, right, he just changed my whole outcome. 0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.359 And what you know, just like all the fathers were 0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:47.200 up there like, oh, what do you say to him? 0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:48.960 Is something? You know what I said to him? You 0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.240 know what I'm saying is, you know I'm up there shining. 0:34:51.400 --> 0:34:53.480 They're up there with their sons. I'm up there so long, 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.640 they up there with moms and pops. You know what 0:34:55.680 --> 0:34:58.279 I'm saying at the banquet, I'm so long. You know 0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:01.200 what I'm saying. I'm talking about for real low Later on, 0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.800 of course, I found out how big time he was, 0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:07.399 and he had his come down to Dodger Stadium meet 0:35:07.480 --> 0:35:11.320 Tom the sort I remember I was. I think it 0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:14.320 was Ferguson, Like I was like on first base and 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:16.480 I'm like, yo, man in one of us, man like 0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:18.600 trying to steal second base on bro. You know what 0:35:18.600 --> 0:35:21.319 I'm saying. Dodger Stadium right there, Tim, he was getting 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:23.560 let me get that off la sorta coach sorta didn't 0:35:23.640 --> 0:35:26.520 let me get that off man. So did that man? 0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:31.560 You know, as a successful you know, Ronning verne By 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.480 successful because Verbon Day is one of the greatest programs 0:35:34.800 --> 0:35:37.920 in the history of Laws Angeles. We'll successful. What do 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:44.719 you mean, well, four five guys, My senie got scholarship, right, 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.239 So my team, as far as the team collective, we 0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.840 lost the Long Bees probably in the semifinals a c 0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:57.879 IF and Polly won a national championship, and so they 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:05.600 you know, they'd be crunched up. Yeah, Data, Brent Hassan, 0:36:05.760 --> 0:36:09.200 you know those John So, John Williams, the great John Williams, 0:36:09.480 --> 0:36:11.680 Data and Chris Sound them to the nicest dudes in 0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:16.839 my time, you know. So they had those dudes right there. 0:36:17.000 --> 0:36:20.040 So we end up losing the semifinals with the ironic 0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:23.799 thing with that right there. Ron Palmer became my coach 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.320 at long Re State. So when he won a national 0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:31.120 championship at Polly, they gave him the job at long 0:36:31.239 --> 0:36:33.320 Re State. They gave it to him later to So 0:36:33.440 --> 0:36:34.880 now you looking for the players. You know what, I 0:36:35.120 --> 0:36:37.000 I don't have any scholarship offers. I got one of 0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:39.160 La bar you know what I'm saying the texts. I'm 0:36:39.160 --> 0:36:42.160 not cooling man, Just you know, I go to do 0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:46.160 the college first. So long we State came up. You know, 0:36:46.600 --> 0:36:49.280 one of one of the players who went to Polity 0:36:49.320 --> 0:36:53.080 training for he was his pops. Like yo, you know, 0:36:53.600 --> 0:36:59.839 because Palmer looking for players, that's a naturally it's just like, oh, 0:37:00.000 --> 0:37:02.080 one of the big guys in Bourbon day, I want him. 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:07.160 I said that, just I said I want him. That's 0:37:07.200 --> 0:37:09.360 your But what was your dream school coming out of 0:37:09.440 --> 0:37:11.440 high school? D Like? What position were you in? Like 0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:13.360 when you when you sat home at night and you 0:37:13.440 --> 0:37:15.759 thought about it, what what was your dream school? Was 0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.640 it Long Beach State? No? I was just c l 0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:21.200 A like every other kid growing up in a Sanels 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.480 You know what I'm it was it was once I 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:27.120 started getting to it, it was just c l A, 0:37:27.480 --> 0:37:32.120 you know, and you know didn't happen. But you know, 0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.839 long we stay was cool though. It worked out great, 0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:37.960 you know, but every you know mine, just like when 0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.640 I was just like because I used to watch you know, 0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.640 David green Wood and Roy Hamlets they went to Vermon 0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.520 day c l A starts you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 0:37:48.120 --> 0:37:50.680 feels you know what I'm saying, Cliff Fru you know 0:37:50.719 --> 0:37:53.640 all those dudes of verb dudes man, you know, and 0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.160 so I'm just like, man, I want to I want 0:37:56.160 --> 0:38:00.080 to go there too as well. You know. So that 0:38:00.160 --> 0:38:04.759 didn't happen. I went there, and when I graduated, I 0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:09.200 was top five scour and rebound. Hey yeah, when I graduate, 0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.680 of course, you know I'm still top twenty. But there's 0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:13.640 been a lot of great players that come through there, 0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.439 and a little bit Rock Loyd, you know, a little 0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:21.600 Brian Russell, Lucia's Harris, Lucia's Harris. You know what, I 0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:23.600 don't know, b Russ got me, you know what I'm saying. 0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:25.640 But what I'm saying is there's great players that went 0:38:25.680 --> 0:38:29.439 through Long Beach State. Okay, so That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.719 no question about it. You know what I'm saying. So, 0:38:32.480 --> 0:38:36.239 you know, I would like preseason All American candidate. You 0:38:36.320 --> 0:38:41.680 know this and that? So uh, I end up after 0:38:41.800 --> 0:38:45.080 my senior year, you know, and we end up losing, 0:38:45.280 --> 0:38:49.120 losing to Stanford first round in I t yikes, who 0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:54.279 they have? How are it right? Grandfather Todd Licht? How 0:38:54.320 --> 0:38:58.520 do you lose? The Todd Lichty dog lit seven? I 0:38:58.600 --> 0:39:01.319 had one of my I have probably my best game 0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:04.520 as a collegiate player. You know what I'm saying against 0:39:04.560 --> 0:39:08.160 Stanford Howard right, remember me bold me one time? Right game? 0:39:09.520 --> 0:39:12.040 I was just like this, Listen, my man, if you 0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:15.080 ever bow me like that again, you know I'm gonna 0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:17.120 knock you out on this court. I don't give a 0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.800 funk about all these none of that bow me again, 0:39:20.120 --> 0:39:21.839 you know what I'm saying. So I absolutely went out 0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:25.040 there and murdered them. And you know, even though we lost, 0:39:25.520 --> 0:39:28.000 it felt good because you know, we just serve people. 0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:30.879 You just serve them. You know, you lose a close game, 0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.879 it's like, bro, you know, okay, yeah, you guys, wont 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:38.399 you know I was serving you? You knows? And then 0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:42.640 Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:45.640 the nation. Catch All of our shows at Fox Sports 0:39:45.760 --> 0:39:48.879 Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:52.479 search f s R to listen live. The next year. 0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:57.839 That year, I'll get a job in Holland, so I'll 0:39:57.880 --> 0:40:00.880 go to Holland and play What part of Holland? What 0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:04.440 part of Holland did you go to? What city? Ben Helder? 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:09.799 Ben Helder talk to me about Holland talked about Holland. 0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.840 I've been a lot of places. I didn't spend a 0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:13.640 ton of time. I spent a little bit of time 0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.040 in a coffee shop in Amsterdam during a break when 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:20.640 I stopped at Kinople and uh, I went got some coffee, 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:24.280 some really good coffee and uh, but I was wondered 0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:27.759 what life was like in Holland with the Dutch. Talk 0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.000 to me, man, it was it was awesome. It was 0:40:31.320 --> 0:40:34.880 you know, people were friendly, is heck? You know, a 0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:40.080 small time like being Helder? What year? What year was this? Nine? 0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:46.880 And had Holland had brothers there before? Absolutely Dutch colleague. 0:40:46.960 --> 0:40:54.879 You know what I'm saying, nothing Dutch colony. Dog they're 0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:58.919 over there, brod creersol you know, sing a little yeah 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:06.520 yeah bro, you know, so they're over there. So yeah, 0:41:07.080 --> 0:41:09.480 it was cool. You know, and how did you play 0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:12.239 over there? How was your squad? How'd y'all do? And 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:15.680 we were nice. So I had a Bobby Knight type 0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:18.600 of coach and it's still Tombo was not you know 0:41:18.600 --> 0:41:21.400 what I'm saying, everybody do it too. He's just crazy. 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:25.200 So he just he stayed on me. Man, It's just dude. 0:41:25.200 --> 0:41:28.520 Why is this dude gonna be like this? Man just constantly? Man? 0:41:28.640 --> 0:41:32.520 You know, now in the big games, he would never 0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:37.680 bother you the weak games. And you know, he had 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:41.200 put me in first of all, I'm not starting, okay. 0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.480 He had put me in for the first free throw 0:41:45.960 --> 0:41:48.440 and take me out for the second free to custom 0:41:48.480 --> 0:41:56.799 me out. Yeah, so I wanted. I remember we're getting 0:41:56.840 --> 0:42:00.880 ready to go play like qualifying against ray C Paris, right, 0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:08.160 and uh, Michael Kennedy and big lead get us. But uh, 0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:11.759 the coach and the president of team was like, yeah, 0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:15.000 you know, we're probably gonna send you home, you know 0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:19.160 after this game. You know, I'm like, okay, no problems. 0:42:19.239 --> 0:42:21.319 You know, I'm ready to go. I've been over there. 0:42:22.360 --> 0:42:25.480 Had you got your money yet? Had you been paying yet? Yeah? 0:42:25.960 --> 0:42:27.480 I've been there for like four or five min I 0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.000 went over like in August preseason. You know what I'm saying. 0:42:31.080 --> 0:42:35.240 So I'm like, no, I'm tired. So I said, okay, 0:42:35.360 --> 0:42:39.759 no problem, see me home. I go out to the game. 0:42:39.880 --> 0:42:42.839 I got like thirty and fifteen. We upset them, right, 0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:46.640 I caught off the bench. We upset them. Of course 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:49.560 they can't cut me because they can't bring another American 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.759 in for the European Cup. They gotta use the ones 0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:56.520 that they qualified. Wow. So I'm stuck. So now, man, 0:42:57.160 --> 0:42:59.160 get me off this team said, oh man, you're the 0:42:59.239 --> 0:43:02.560 European Cup. Man. So I don't care, man, No, Man, 0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.880 you're right here. Man. So you know I got a 0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:10.680 chance to go. You know Ukraine, you know I'm KIF 0:43:11.160 --> 0:43:18.440 and Moscow, you know St. Petersburg, Lithuania, you know, through 0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.840 all those places right in the European Cup. Man. So 0:43:21.840 --> 0:43:27.560 uh remember Alexander Volkoff Atlanta Hawks. Well yeah, he's fighting 0:43:27.600 --> 0:43:30.440 in the war in Ukraine right now. Of course, I remember, 0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:32.960 how does that a vote? Yes, Sasha, you know what 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.920 I'm saying. So he's considered the greatest player ever from Ukraine, 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.080 and U no, I just never forget it. You know 0:43:41.200 --> 0:43:43.320 we're playing him at home in college, and you know 0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:47.239 you played one of homes in a way, so we're 0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.399 playing them, but they just everybody's oh many's gonna kills. 0:43:50.480 --> 0:43:57.200 He's gonna drop fifty on us. Oh man. You know, yeah, 0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:04.160 like you had like you know, eighteen or nineteen. You know, 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.920 I probably had fourteen and you know nobody else had 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:12.319 nothing because it was shook. Yeah you know. Yeah, now 0:44:12.440 --> 0:44:14.360 court to Night was on the team with some longs. 0:44:14.400 --> 0:44:17.840 That's a difference right there. You know. So when we 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:22.640 go back to my scot, like, you know, I matched 0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:25.600 up with volk Off from like just right here, y'all 0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:28.160 don't want this. I want this here, he's lead, He's 0:44:28.200 --> 0:44:31.320 gonna leave and talking. Man, I know, like what, we 0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.920 lost a close games and I found out probably like 0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:39.279 a minute ago, that was like my second standard ovation overseas. Yeah, 0:44:39.920 --> 0:44:44.000 found out the standard ovation that serve bo like well, 0:44:44.040 --> 0:44:46.480 I know the n B A show but I don't know, 0:44:46.680 --> 0:44:49.399 but you telled me right when I was my game 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:51.520 was just like sicking. I was like a small forward 0:44:51.600 --> 0:44:57.280 back there too, you know for sure. Well after Europe, 0:44:58.200 --> 0:45:01.440 now you had all those high level experiences in Europe, 0:45:02.719 --> 0:45:06.960 how did you end up locking down Japan? I know 0:45:07.040 --> 0:45:08.960 you spent a considered amount of time over there. How 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.560 did that happen that you went from europe high level 0:45:11.600 --> 0:45:15.440 European competition to dominating the Japan League for over a 0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:18.239 decade if I'm correct right, Well, now I was over 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:22.560 there for six years. Excuse me, six years, but I 0:45:22.719 --> 0:45:26.320 was actually gonna go back to Louisiana Olympia. Okay, Like 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:29.400 I said, you know, coach loved me. You know, towns 0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:33.920 just you know, being Anthony. It's just like it's just yours, 0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:38.040 you know. So I had always wanted to go to Japan. 0:45:39.040 --> 0:45:41.120 The coach and I used to coach at cal State 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:44.560 Domicus Hills Freemant High School and cow Sa l A. 0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.200 You know, I know him since high school and he's 0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:50.080 always tell me how nice this plan. So I was like, 0:45:50.200 --> 0:45:53.120 oh wow, really, you know I's I hear stories, man, 0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:55.600 I want to get there. So you know in Slovania, 0:45:55.920 --> 0:46:00.360 who practicing three times today? Three times? And then they 0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.440 just not no practice, they are practice. You guys are 0:46:03.480 --> 0:46:06.040 on the court three times a day on court actually 0:46:06.080 --> 0:46:07.880 five on five going up and down. Or did you 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.960 have a morning practice with shooting a little bit in 0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.680 the middle with some weights and then y'all went hard 0:46:12.719 --> 0:46:18.680 in the evening it went hard off three times. Smigo 0:46:18.800 --> 0:46:21.000 wasn't having it, bro. Yeah, that's back then when the 0:46:21.080 --> 0:46:24.200 coaches would be kind of just dictatorship type dudes and 0:46:24.320 --> 0:46:27.880 just no question about it. Yeah we're going home. Our 0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:31.080 warm up is every morning, like three miles in the mountains, 0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.040 and the mountains right next to the gym, tipicy hall, 0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:40.680 okays we have it was just like yo, so but 0:46:40.840 --> 0:46:43.520 I was in such love with it, with the community, 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.160 the country, and look, okay, well'm wenna come back. I 0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:50.400 know once Japan came with that bread, you know what 0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.880 I'm saying, and I was just like it was like yo, man, 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:57.719 the only practice three times a week, like what I 0:46:57.880 --> 0:47:01.040 Wasn't Japan really like that? Man? Was it really like that? 0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:03.239 Back when you first got the gig, not a lot 0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:05.600 of practice to paying you, you know, twenty thousand a 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.239 month or whatever. I used to hear these rumors and 0:47:08.320 --> 0:47:10.080 then I heard they give you a job like you know, 0:47:10.960 --> 0:47:14.359 a plenty of Panasonic Katachi. You could get a job 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.200 if you had played for the team. Is that true? Man? Now, listen, 0:47:18.400 --> 0:47:22.879 when I came there that year, you know they did 0:47:22.960 --> 0:47:28.560 away with the jobs. Job Listen, bro, you come there. 0:47:28.600 --> 0:47:31.960 You work for Panasonic, mr BC. I'm saying, Mit, Sue, 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.839 you know you need the messo. The Americans are going 0:47:35.000 --> 0:47:39.120 there and just sitting down. You know, it's like what 0:47:39.200 --> 0:47:41.719 you want me to do. So it's like, look, the 0:47:41.719 --> 0:47:44.880 America's gotta be pros. They can't come to the office, 0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:47.399 you know. So I came in on that right there. 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:51.120 So I got there. I was just like, all right, 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.759 I got the linck over there. Then, you know, to 0:47:56.880 --> 0:48:04.520 my connection to a Spencer came through Stevie Thompson came 0:48:04.680 --> 0:48:09.520 through Robin Kirksey, Jaquin Jones. You know, I just had 0:48:09.560 --> 0:48:14.600 a flood floodgate of dudes that I plugged to go 0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.840 to Japan, I mean, to go to Japan. It was 0:48:16.880 --> 0:48:29.000 I untreal. I just had, you know, connect playing with 0:48:29.040 --> 0:48:31.880 Stevie Man, He's aid he's a Chrishaw legend. Played against 0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:36.600 Steve or did you play on your team Stevie? Yeah, 0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:40.080 so you didn't play on my team over there. I'm sorry, 0:48:40.080 --> 0:48:41.680 you know you did. But I got all those guys 0:48:41.719 --> 0:48:44.520 into Japan. You know, I had twenty cast that was 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.799 over there playing from l A. Just to talk about 0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:50.360 Stevie for a second, that's Ethan Thompson and Stevie Thompson 0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:53.399 Jr's dad coach. He was assistant coach at the Oregon 0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:55.040 State for the last several years. Was a part of 0:48:55.080 --> 0:48:58.400 that Elite eight run, successful Elite run eight run that 0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:02.560 they had. And so I can go to Japan with Stevie. 0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:04.960 So did I know when I was in Qatar like 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:07.359 Americans we all hung out? Was it the same way 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:09.440 in Japan? Like did y'all kicking with each other and 0:49:09.480 --> 0:49:17.440 hang out? Listen? Chen Douce from l A, Tokyo. Oh, 0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:22.839 that's that's prouble. That's trouble, man, Hey, that's trouble. Who 0:49:22.920 --> 0:49:25.160 who Who are the most the tories of the tid 0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:27.080 that you can name off the top of your head 0:49:27.280 --> 0:49:34.319 right now, the most notorious. Yeah, Tray Spancy, rest in peace, man, 0:49:34.719 --> 0:49:38.000 Rest in peace? Right? Stev over there? You had Robbin 0:49:38.120 --> 0:49:45.680 over there, Robin Kirksey, loyal America Jones Uh from Pepperline, North, 0:49:45.760 --> 0:49:56.640 Hollywood High you had Charles Rosslyn s l A. Yeah, Wow, Yeah, 0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:00.560 I mean that's dope. Yeah, guys up to in l A. Man, 0:50:00.560 --> 0:50:05.680 it was unreal. That's dope. That's dope. Man. You spent 0:50:06.160 --> 0:50:09.080 six years, seven years going back and forth to Japan. 0:50:09.280 --> 0:50:11.080 I mean you had you both your kids were born 0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:14.200 over there. No, my son was so your son, your 0:50:14.280 --> 0:50:17.320 son is born over there. So and then at what 0:50:17.560 --> 0:50:22.360 point did Japan's UH sort of wind down and you 0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:26.520 started thinking about shutting it down or making your next move? 0:50:26.920 --> 0:50:31.759 At what point two thousand h when I retired, you know, 0:50:31.840 --> 0:50:35.080 I had a own, I had a bone spuring my achilles, 0:50:36.320 --> 0:50:38.680 you know, get that shaved down or whatever. And so 0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:41.239 after that, I was just like, then I ain't coming back, 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:44.120 you know, that was just it. So so y ain't 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:47.759 Cooper from USC Lakewood High School head coach. He was 0:50:47.840 --> 0:50:49.719 over in Poland he was like, Dee, come on, man, 0:50:49.760 --> 0:50:51.480 I never got a chance to play with you. I mean, 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:56.160 you know I'm still nice at that time, right, I 0:50:56.239 --> 0:50:58.239 really don't want to play, man, come on. So I 0:50:58.320 --> 0:51:02.160 went over there for my a mom fans. I'm done, 0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.799 you know. And then that's the time the real running 0:51:04.840 --> 0:51:09.040 stop blowing. That's the time the real run stop bling. 0:51:09.080 --> 0:51:10.960 I was like, talk to me, let's talk about the 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.960 real run, not the real run. UH is one of 0:51:14.200 --> 0:51:20.400 Los Angeles longest and most well known leagues basketball brands. 0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:22.120 If you will you do? You started off as the 0:51:22.120 --> 0:51:25.399 summer league, but you evolved into a lot of other things. 0:51:25.440 --> 0:51:29.800 I wanted to know about how the real run got started. 0:51:31.800 --> 0:51:34.560 We used to play pickup ball in Veterans Sports Complex 0:51:35.320 --> 0:51:39.640 y Stevie Thomson was encamping with the Clippers and the 0:51:39.680 --> 0:51:42.520 Clippers just a practice in Vetman in Carson. Do you 0:51:42.600 --> 0:51:49.200 remember that. That's right? Yeah, Donald Sterling, Yeah that's right. Yeah. Community, 0:51:50.160 --> 0:51:52.520 you know, yeah, for sure, Steve could we were at 0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:59.200 we left u c l A. Why charging for parking? Ah, 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:02.400 you know, I just file all that type of stuff. 0:52:02.640 --> 0:52:07.759 What magic you know, the whole crew. You know, wait, 0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:09.520 wait talking about this, don't let's talk about this. Let's 0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.160 talk about this. So you're saying, basically, you see they 0:52:12.239 --> 0:52:15.120 had that dynamic where them guys that was in the 0:52:15.239 --> 0:52:18.280 league or certain Cats would be bullshitting on the fouls 0:52:18.320 --> 0:52:21.560 and try to keep the ball on game point versus 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:23.640 Jews that wasn't in the league. Was it was? It 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:29.640 like some arrogant arrogance, arrogance? Remember Pat, you ain't talked 0:52:29.640 --> 0:52:31.640 about it. Man. I don't like going on the l 0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:35.879 A L A. Man. You know, magic man found every 0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:42.040 every time down court, you can't get a workout and 0:52:42.080 --> 0:52:45.759 how are you doing. Patrick? That's my guy man, coach, 0:52:45.800 --> 0:52:47.920 you is my guy man. So I used toll uh, 0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:51.000 I'm at a line some morning on some Nike commercials 0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:55.520 in the early nineties. You know. Oh, me and Zo 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:59.560 became real cool then, you know, of course to you know, so, 0:52:59.680 --> 0:53:03.879 I mean Pat, you know, so I just stay solid, man, 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:10.320 you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, whatever that you 0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:13.800 ain't dude, I never forget dog, So, you know, I 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.000 think it was the second time I had met him. 0:53:16.080 --> 0:53:19.440 So the first time I met him was with my 0:53:19.640 --> 0:53:22.560 dad at the All Star Game. My dad took me 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.360 over to meet Pat and Michael Jordan's. If you remember, 0:53:25.480 --> 0:53:27.520 Mike had the white hat on the blue sweatsuit next 0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:30.239 to the dunk contest cud web runs, so I was. 0:53:30.560 --> 0:53:32.719 I was there. So my dad took me over Mans 0:53:33.120 --> 0:53:34.680 because he had rolled in the limo to the game. 0:53:35.239 --> 0:53:36.839 He was writing in the limo with Mike and Pat, 0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:39.239 so he was messing with them. So anyway, he takes 0:53:39.280 --> 0:53:41.359 me over. Man, I tapped up. Pat just shows me love, 0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:44.399 gives me a handshake. Fast forward to ninety six at 0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:48.799 the Jordan's Dome. I we're playing, so I'm on the court. 0:53:48.960 --> 0:53:51.600 It's me. I'm the only nine NBA guy on the court. 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.680 So the play happened. Somebody misses a shot, rebound goes 0:53:54.760 --> 0:53:56.480 up right, So I do the thing where I put 0:53:56.560 --> 0:54:00.000 my arm on Pat's shoulder and I jumped, He jumped 0:54:00.080 --> 0:54:02.600 and I rise right. He gives me a serious boost 0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.560 and I I literally grabbed rebelt, cut it and like 0:54:05.760 --> 0:54:10.120 swung swung outlet to somebody. He literally turned, he turned 0:54:10.120 --> 0:54:11.880 and looked at me. It was like they clicked through 0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:13.600 through that ship again. It man, I'm gonna suck you 0:54:13.800 --> 0:54:17.680 up literally like and they started laughing. But they started laughing, 0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:21.160 so I was. I was like, I went from crependation 0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:23.279 on Patrick. You weren't about to big me up? Bro 0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:25.560 to the smile and he was just there. He gave 0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:27.560 me like an elbow on the way down. I was like, okay, 0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:36.080 this is a cool cat. Pat my guy. So you 0:54:36.200 --> 0:54:39.040 had to Pat. What was the ones like with Patton 0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.120 Zoe If y'all had a chance to work out at all? 0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:43.360 Oh man, it was I remember one day, Bro, I 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:47.239 was up there working. I would them to the kim 0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:52.560 Bay front of Riley's front of Rouse. You just know 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:55.360 how sick that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, 0:54:55.520 --> 0:54:57.400 you just know how sick it is right there. You 0:54:57.480 --> 0:55:00.959 know you just locked it. It's like, oh my god, Pat, 0:55:01.040 --> 0:55:04.840 Pat asked my guys, my favorite coach. He showed me 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:12.840 so much love about this Southeast straight up after you 0:55:12.920 --> 0:55:17.120 selled it down with the Real Run, Okay, the league goes. 0:55:17.640 --> 0:55:22.320 You had several great summers in a row, super duper turnout. 0:55:22.320 --> 0:55:24.640 I never forget when GP and Penny and all of 0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:28.160 them came, and one championship game I remember going. I 0:55:28.320 --> 0:55:32.000 was myself baron Paul Pierce going against Paul Pierce, Antoine 0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.920 Walker and you know, Derek Fishers on my squad at 0:55:34.920 --> 0:55:37.960 Antonio Harvey and each trick. I mean, all these guys man. 0:55:38.440 --> 0:55:41.439 So the real One definitely was a wonderful, wonderful era 0:55:41.560 --> 0:55:44.600 of basketball, dude. And uh, but when did you say, 0:55:45.000 --> 0:55:47.719 as far as the Real Run was concerned, you decided 0:55:47.760 --> 0:55:50.600 to kind of say, hey, I got something here. I 0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.800 want to start touching on the youth youth basketball, the 0:55:53.920 --> 0:55:56.960 youth movement because you got involved man, pretty quickly there, 0:55:57.040 --> 0:56:01.560 and you made a serious mark in the grass roofs game. Yeah. No, 0:56:03.440 --> 0:56:07.840 you know from m running the Summer League. You know 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.160 it takes a lot, especially when you first started, you know. 0:56:11.160 --> 0:56:14.799 And so I got the athletic director position to head 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:17.600 coach at Bourbon Day High School, so I could, you know, 0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:19.640 I had to put all my energy over there Bourbon 0:56:20.280 --> 0:56:22.919 you know. And so but I kept the name going 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:26.360 like Real Run Fall League, Real Run when the Classic 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.799 Real Run Spring League. You know, I was the one 0:56:28.880 --> 0:56:31.680 that was doing the fall leagues first on Sundays. You know, 0:56:31.719 --> 0:56:35.080 everybody followed after me. You know. It's it's crazy. It's like, yo, 0:56:35.160 --> 0:56:36.920 when no one's doing on Sunday. So I started doing 0:56:36.960 --> 0:56:40.680 on Sunday both flip overside you okay, just dude fun. 0:56:40.760 --> 0:56:43.200 It's like, dude, man, you come up with your home blueprint. Bro. 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:50.200 You know. So you know that keeping that name going around, 0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:56.640 you know, because eventually no that led to you know, 0:56:57.280 --> 0:57:00.120 the Truth Program for us and here you sir. You know, 0:57:00.360 --> 0:57:03.760 so we had some big time players come from program, 0:57:03.920 --> 0:57:09.359 Hami Hontkare Shackleford, you know, the Gumster, Josh Fritzpher, Jalen Green, 0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:13.439 you know, wow, wow, wow, Josh Yeah, Jalen Green, Josh 0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:18.520 Christopher yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Carl Lewis, Rescipe Peace, 0:57:18.680 --> 0:57:22.000 you know, you know, we were in peace Carl, Big Carl, Yeah, 0:57:22.200 --> 0:57:24.600 big car Man. We had some players in there. So 0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:29.200 with that, my relationship with Penny Pat you know, Joan Howard, 0:57:29.320 --> 0:57:31.800 Leonard Hamilton's you know, I was gonna stay in the 0:57:31.880 --> 0:57:34.560 mix and trying to help kids, you know, achieve the dreams, 0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:37.240 you know. So you know, I just stayed in it, 0:57:37.520 --> 0:57:40.720 you know. Right now, Yes, you know, we're working on something, 0:57:40.920 --> 0:57:46.680 uh future deal with Nike right now, so you know, 0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:50.640 just waiting for that to finalize right there. But you know, man, 0:57:50.840 --> 0:57:53.480 look you don't stop with me, you know. You know, 0:57:53.560 --> 0:57:57.960 I'm I'm gonna be doing me until I'm dead. You 0:57:58.000 --> 0:58:01.120 know what I'm saying that I'm always gonna find a way. 0:58:01.160 --> 0:58:03.000 I'm always going to find a way to help people, 0:58:03.400 --> 0:58:06.880 you know. And so that's that's one great thing you 0:58:06.920 --> 0:58:09.560 know about this that I'm doing now. I have a 0:58:09.640 --> 0:58:12.560 lot of flew in friends out there that you know 0:58:12.640 --> 0:58:14.720 what I need help. You know, I'm able to help 0:58:14.760 --> 0:58:17.800 people that can't help themselves, you know. And so that's 0:58:17.840 --> 0:58:20.800 the most special thing about real run starting until you know, 0:58:20.880 --> 0:58:23.880 an all star league into high school league, college league, 0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:27.360 you know, to my foundation right now, during a pandemic, 0:58:27.680 --> 0:58:30.640 we raised like two hundred thousand dollars for the people 0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.320 in Nixon Cards and then the watch area. You know 0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:36.880 with Brad Pitt and Fleet. You know, Fox Sports Radio 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:39.760 has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch 0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:42.680 all of our shows at Fox sports Radio dot com 0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:45.880 and within the I Heart Radio app search f s 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:49.080 R to listen live. That's something I saw you doing 0:58:49.120 --> 0:58:52.160 that on Twitter. Man. I thought that was wonderful. I 0:58:52.200 --> 0:58:54.919 thought that was amazing that you were taking your time. 0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:57.960 You were rallying the community. You're getting people out there 0:58:58.360 --> 0:59:01.840 to feed. You were feeding you guys were feeding the community. 0:59:02.320 --> 0:59:04.600 And then I saw the photos of Brad and flee 0:59:05.200 --> 0:59:08.080 from Red Hot Chili Peppers. That ship was wild. Man, 0:59:08.120 --> 0:59:12.000 What what surprised you the most about having, like Sean Maryman, 0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:15.120 Brad Pitt and Fleet in Watts What was the most 0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:19.320 surprising thing about their presence there? Not really, you know, 0:59:20.480 --> 0:59:25.680 Addis is not tripping at all, bass jumping on somebody's mopay, 0:59:25.800 --> 0:59:27.360 you know what I mean, He's just mopay right here. 0:59:27.360 --> 0:59:29.960 I mean's just motorcycle and go to his liquor store 0:59:29.960 --> 0:59:34.040 and games for cigarettes. You know, said, no security none, 0:59:34.720 --> 0:59:39.040 you know, and just how you know how selfish. Those 0:59:39.120 --> 0:59:42.760 guys were, you know, really man, just like Flee brass shine, 0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.240 those guys coming and putting in a major time. You're 0:59:45.240 --> 0:59:48.320 not tripping up like love, you know. And no autographs 0:59:48.360 --> 0:59:51.240 and no photos, none of that's going on. That's only 0:59:51.280 --> 0:59:54.120 for the people from this community, right that's it. So 0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:58.720 to see them really go out um and open up 0:59:58.840 --> 1:00:01.800 and just like a year straight, bro, it's just like 1:00:03.040 --> 1:00:06.400 on Fridays, man, it was enough food you know for 1:00:06.520 --> 1:00:10.800 the families for the whole week and you know the 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:14.040 whole year. Those guys probably missed like three Fridays they 1:00:14.520 --> 1:00:17.440 and they weren't happy about that right there. So that 1:00:17.600 --> 1:00:21.040 was unbelievable. Man. A lot of my childhood friends, you know, 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.200 we got together and you know we really grinded out 1:00:25.920 --> 1:00:28.080 and made sure, you know, shout out to my boy 1:00:28.200 --> 1:00:31.120 Ricky Davis. Another real run. Let's you know, Ricky Davis, 1:00:32.120 --> 1:00:36.840 didn he Rick bring, didn't bring like a truck or 1:00:36.880 --> 1:00:42.840 somebot eight Ricky Davis and Al Harrington, Yeah big Al 1:00:42.960 --> 1:00:45.680 baby Al so baby out and Tricky Rick. You know 1:00:45.680 --> 1:00:50.640 what I'm saying. Remember they sent like four diesels, you know, 1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:55.640 eighteen wheelers. I'll never forget the envoys for each one 1:00:55.720 --> 1:00:59.120 on for like sixty five thousand and food. Bro, you 1:00:59.160 --> 1:01:01.440 know what I'm saying. So I'm just like, yo, come 1:01:01.520 --> 1:01:03.760 over here, back up to the gym field. This and 1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:07.720 that bringing on out right here makes the phone calls 1:01:07.800 --> 1:01:13.120 to a few people. Got that going. Everybody coming from everywhere, 1:01:13.320 --> 1:01:16.160 you know, just taking enough food man to feed their families. 1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:20.640 Man with great great stuff chicken, you know, milk, healthy 1:01:20.720 --> 1:01:23.680 stuff man, vegetables. Man. So it just wasn't like it 1:01:23.800 --> 1:01:26.400 was some nice food in there man. So to see 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:30.000 people really rallied around that time when people needed it 1:01:30.080 --> 1:01:32.320 man joining COVID, you know what I'm saying, all that 1:01:32.400 --> 1:01:35.760 type of stuff, It was amazing. Then, Uh, I remember 1:01:37.120 --> 1:01:42.160 you're the same time we did uh walking and watch 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:47.960 Uh two of my friends Brian and Gregory, uh childhood friends. 1:01:48.040 --> 1:01:50.280 We collaborated and you know we did a walking to 1:01:50.400 --> 1:01:52.960 wash where you know, we walked down like a hunt 1:01:53.080 --> 1:01:57.760 third Street, you know, down there by you know neighborhoods 1:01:57.880 --> 1:02:00.800 you know. Back then come around, know just showing a 1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:05.240 brother son Dary Uh Katy Lattimore came down to perform. 1:02:05.520 --> 1:02:07.880 You know what I'm saying, this is that but you know, 1:02:08.720 --> 1:02:12.280 I never forget it was like a hundred people that 1:02:12.400 --> 1:02:14.160 was in the you know, COVID you can end up 1:02:14.240 --> 1:02:15.680 have a lot of people out, so you had to 1:02:15.960 --> 1:02:18.400 you know, spacing. So it was like a hundred of 1:02:18.440 --> 1:02:22.200 people in the man and bro it was like over 1:02:22.320 --> 1:02:26.440 four hundred years of incarceration in there from a few people, 1:02:26.640 --> 1:02:29.919 you know what I'm saying. So I'm just yeah, I'm 1:02:29.960 --> 1:02:32.400 looking at guys that I know, the thirty eight years, 1:02:32.560 --> 1:02:34.840 thirty you know what I'm saying, thirty five you know, 1:02:35.880 --> 1:02:38.560 just it's amazing, man. So I'm just like, wow, man, 1:02:38.720 --> 1:02:41.720 we still here right here, so you know all that 1:02:41.880 --> 1:02:45.680 experience right there, you know those were highlights right there. Man. 1:02:45.760 --> 1:02:48.520 It's just you know, having so many people like reach, 1:02:48.600 --> 1:02:50.240 I was like, hey, what type of help you need? 1:02:50.600 --> 1:02:52.920 You know what I mean, Mac Listen, it doesn't have 1:02:53.080 --> 1:02:56.800 to be you know, the movement, Black Lives Matter movement, 1:02:57.040 --> 1:02:59.160 any of that stuff. I'm always gonna help. And I'm 1:02:59.160 --> 1:03:02.520 always gonna underway to get some toys for some kids 1:03:02.560 --> 1:03:05.760 with Christmas, you know what I'm saying, Some money for school, 1:03:06.160 --> 1:03:08.840 you know, books, computers, I'm always gonna do that. Man. 1:03:08.920 --> 1:03:12.520 That's just in me. Why why is this getting Why 1:03:12.600 --> 1:03:14.160 is this so much a part of the fabric of 1:03:14.240 --> 1:03:18.520 your DNA. Man, I grew up like that. Uh you know, 1:03:18.600 --> 1:03:22.680 it's just like I was blessed. Like I said, I 1:03:22.800 --> 1:03:26.200 never knew hunger, you know, I was blessed, you know, 1:03:26.440 --> 1:03:29.360 so moms made sure she provided for us. So it 1:03:29.480 --> 1:03:31.520 was just kind of natural, probably my grandmother, because my 1:03:31.600 --> 1:03:34.720 grandmother was real loving like that. But you know, once 1:03:34.760 --> 1:03:37.960 I got a chance to really come back and retired, 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:41.720 you know, start off with Carson High School system coach 1:03:41.800 --> 1:03:44.680 and went to burb you know, didn't you know, actually 1:03:45.360 --> 1:03:49.960 quit quitting uh coaching and being athletic directly and started 1:03:50.000 --> 1:03:54.280 a nonprofit with Pack Nicholas and down More, you know, 1:03:54.400 --> 1:03:57.600 called Urban Compass. So I did that for about six years, 1:03:58.160 --> 1:04:01.240 you know, dealing with kids and a hundred usty school 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:03.120 next to it which I went to school. And they 1:04:03.160 --> 1:04:04.960 grew up in the projects where I grew up at. 1:04:05.080 --> 1:04:10.240 So you know, now you know, it's like those little 1:04:10.360 --> 1:04:14.360 kids don't know me, but their grandfather's no. But their 1:04:14.440 --> 1:04:16.400 uncles no, but they you know, So it just it 1:04:16.560 --> 1:04:19.200 worked right in hand, you know, Like some of my boys, 1:04:19.840 --> 1:04:21.400 you know, I was watching their kids while they was 1:04:21.480 --> 1:04:23.840 locked up, you know, and so they get out of Man. 1:04:24.000 --> 1:04:26.360 Thanks for holding it out for my son. You know, 1:04:26.680 --> 1:04:31.760 it's and that so I mean, it's just the humanity 1:04:31.920 --> 1:04:36.320 thing that everybody should do help out without wanting anything 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:38.840 in return. That's it, you know what I'm saying. I'm 1:04:38.840 --> 1:04:41.200 just like, I'm gonna do something for somebody. I ain't 1:04:41.240 --> 1:04:43.800 gonna tell everybody I'm doing it. Just okay, here you go, 1:04:44.000 --> 1:04:46.320 let me help out. You know, get you in school. 1:04:46.480 --> 1:04:48.680 You know what I'm saying. Here you go, You're losing 1:04:48.720 --> 1:04:51.880 your career this you know, you know, making phone calls, 1:04:51.960 --> 1:04:54.720 getting somebody tucked away or whatever. You know, you always 1:04:54.760 --> 1:04:57.320 should do that. That's the essence of you know how 1:04:57.400 --> 1:05:00.360 I grew up and in a community like Man, we 1:05:00.480 --> 1:05:04.960 was all right for each other. How does someone make 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.360 it out of that community? How how come you made 1:05:07.400 --> 1:05:10.000 it out? How come you're not like your boys doing 1:05:10.120 --> 1:05:13.600 time or you're not nothing? Statistics? My mom? You know 1:05:13.640 --> 1:05:17.160 what I'm saying, My mom? You know my mama six 1:05:17.240 --> 1:05:19.439 to You know what I'm saying. So nobody she wasn't 1:05:19.480 --> 1:05:22.560 having no problems with nobody projects. She's one of the 1:05:22.640 --> 1:05:27.480 most respective ever from NIXT and guardens ever. You know, 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:29.760 I'm not talking about in a game bang type of way. 1:05:29.800 --> 1:05:32.560 On to mother type of way right there. You know 1:05:32.560 --> 1:05:35.240 what I'm saying. Everybody loved my mom. Oh yeah, the 1:05:35.280 --> 1:05:37.920 mom in the community where that that you listen to 1:05:38.040 --> 1:05:39.960 what she had to She tells you to stop doing something. 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:41.720 You're gonna stop doing it now. You made go around 1:05:41.720 --> 1:05:43.560 the corner start doing that ship again, but not in 1:05:43.640 --> 1:05:47.760 front of Miss Langston Na and everybody knew it to Yo, man, 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:50.520 get up, man. You know what I'm saying, Yo, Yo, 1:05:50.760 --> 1:05:54.040 the anthony your mama called her. She's calling people's phones. 1:05:54.400 --> 1:05:57.520 You know what I'm saying, Just like yo, yeah, but 1:05:57.640 --> 1:05:59.720 oh man, you gotta get up out of here. I 1:05:59.800 --> 1:06:03.040 got a bounce, you know, I got my You know moms. 1:06:03.440 --> 1:06:05.640 I ain't scanning the catch of the project. I'm stilling 1:06:05.680 --> 1:06:07.520 the mom's you know what I'm saying. She was like 1:06:07.720 --> 1:06:12.200 six to and hey, my mom was the same way, 1:06:12.240 --> 1:06:15.640 but she was five four bro. Hey, I'll never forget bro. 1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:18.440 And I've never really shared this story, but I understand 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:20.680 what it's like to have that type of mom because 1:06:20.920 --> 1:06:22.600 when I used to live with my mom, she lived 1:06:22.640 --> 1:06:25.120 in the sixties neighborhood rolling the sixties, so we was 1:06:25.160 --> 1:06:28.240 off like sixty and ten. So I was playing one day, 1:06:28.640 --> 1:06:30.360 you know, it was it was like a little my 1:06:30.400 --> 1:06:32.360 grandmother kind of stayed like this little project type of 1:06:32.400 --> 1:06:35.800 apartment building. So I'm playing, you know, next door with 1:06:35.920 --> 1:06:37.240 some of the kids, and one of the kids in 1:06:37.280 --> 1:06:39.760 the paraplegic, so they she had the things. You know, 1:06:39.920 --> 1:06:42.320 she couldn't really walk and move well. So something happens 1:06:42.360 --> 1:06:45.480 while we're playing and I accidentally bumped into her and 1:06:45.560 --> 1:06:49.480 she ended up falling, and so you know how that go. 1:06:49.960 --> 1:06:53.520 And so she felt Mom's her mom, her aunts, they're 1:06:53.520 --> 1:06:56.400 trying to everybody wants to fight. So my mom literally 1:06:56.600 --> 1:06:59.400 she went inside, she put she she had long here, 1:06:59.440 --> 1:07:01.400 she tied her, she braid her here real quick type. 1:07:01.400 --> 1:07:03.200 Put on this blue band Danna. She was just huged 1:07:03.200 --> 1:07:05.480 from sixties. Put on blue band Danna, and then rolled 1:07:05.520 --> 1:07:08.560 back outside with two kitchen knives. And so it rolled 1:07:08.600 --> 1:07:10.360 by me. So I'm like, I'm trying to go. My 1:07:10.480 --> 1:07:13.280 uncle's holding me, and then I see what happens and 1:07:13.760 --> 1:07:15.360 they get into a big old things. You know, it's 1:07:15.360 --> 1:07:17.160 a lot of ship that happened in that in that moment. 1:07:17.240 --> 1:07:19.080 But eventually my mom is getting beat up on the 1:07:19.160 --> 1:07:22.040 car she's bloody. So she comes back inside and I 1:07:22.080 --> 1:07:23.840 had to see my mom all bloodied up and ship 1:07:23.880 --> 1:07:25.480 after getting beat up on the car because of something 1:07:25.520 --> 1:07:27.720 I did. But it was something I never forgot. Brother. 1:07:27.800 --> 1:07:29.760 It's something that stunned and it's something that kind of 1:07:29.840 --> 1:07:31.760 made me kind of, you know, get a little ass dog. 1:07:31.800 --> 1:07:33.680 I don't. I know, it doesn't sound like you had 1:07:33.760 --> 1:07:36.520 to necessarily see that. But when I say that these 1:07:36.560 --> 1:07:39.600 type of women were raising us and that's who you know, 1:07:39.840 --> 1:07:43.880 standing up for us. It wasn't a game, you know what. 1:07:44.120 --> 1:07:47.280 It was so funny. I was telling my wrong boys yesterday. 1:07:47.360 --> 1:07:50.680 I said, Man, I said, do you remember this growing up? 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:53.840 This is a well known thing in the projects, Like 1:07:54.880 --> 1:07:59.680 the women couldn't have mann around. If you had men around, 1:08:00.240 --> 1:08:02.120 they go up on your rent or they kick you 1:08:02.160 --> 1:08:10.720 out of the project. Now listen, now listen, people, Yo, listen, yea, listen. 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:13.240 You can't come around here for the next couple of weeks. 1:08:13.320 --> 1:08:16.120 You know, the social workers coming out, so you know, 1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:20.600 Pops is getting to you know, three weeks past. You 1:08:20.680 --> 1:08:24.040 know what I'm saying, It's like, yo, okay for three 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:27.960 you know, you come back out tonight, you know, okay, 1:08:28.160 --> 1:08:31.120 back you know next time he's gone two months, you know, 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:33.880 and got another life going, you know what I'm saying. 1:08:33.960 --> 1:08:39.240 So they systematically for our families there and not wanting 1:08:39.320 --> 1:08:42.800 men around. What I'm saying, Yeah, that was that was 1:08:43.040 --> 1:08:46.560 that was sick. Man. Like we're eight years old. My 1:08:46.720 --> 1:08:52.400 best friend, Chris was murdered. It was murdered. Uh, guy 1:08:52.479 --> 1:08:55.280 just shout in the air. And so my older brother 1:08:55.560 --> 1:08:57.280 like he was up there with Chris. We went to 1:08:57.360 --> 1:09:01.000 stow with mom, and so my brother was looking and 1:09:01.120 --> 1:09:03.599 Chris like, let me look. My brother stepped down. Chris 1:09:03.640 --> 1:09:05.960 stepped up and down without him to the neck and 1:09:06.160 --> 1:09:09.120 killed him. And that was like really traumatizing for me 1:09:10.280 --> 1:09:12.760 to nine, you know, and my friend we just left him. 1:09:12.880 --> 1:09:14.960 What you mean you know what do you mean? I 1:09:15.000 --> 1:09:16.680 don't know what death is, you know what I'm saying 1:09:16.800 --> 1:09:19.479 when you talk about he dead? So that that affected 1:09:19.520 --> 1:09:22.320 me a whole right there. You know that that really 1:09:22.400 --> 1:09:24.720 did right there. But you know, in all in all, man, 1:09:25.880 --> 1:09:28.400 great man, you know, able to give back, you know, 1:09:29.280 --> 1:09:32.560 play sees and you know, have so many friends and 1:09:33.200 --> 1:09:35.320 able to do a lot. You know what I'm saying. 1:09:36.360 --> 1:09:39.320 Look forward, you know I'll be going back to Sylvania 1:09:39.439 --> 1:09:42.840 for business. You know, I think about a month, probably 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:45.960 gonna retire over it. You know it really is, so 1:09:46.680 --> 1:09:48.960 you know, getting ready for the real run this summer. 1:09:49.280 --> 1:09:51.160 You know what I'm saying back at veterans. You know, 1:09:51.320 --> 1:09:55.760 it's only college, college league or high school or all rus' 1:09:56.120 --> 1:09:58.559 he know what I'm saying. You know, so I might, 1:09:59.000 --> 1:10:01.400 I might, you know, said no, we we we we 1:10:01.560 --> 1:10:05.719 got the college going going heavy. You know, we definitely 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.120 had that right there. But I got so many young cats. 1:10:08.280 --> 1:10:11.600 You know, do you feel like you're in competition with 1:10:11.880 --> 1:10:14.400 like the Drew League or anybody any other leagues around here? 1:10:14.439 --> 1:10:16.080 Are you? Are you kind of just doing what you 1:10:16.200 --> 1:10:18.360 do in your own little pocket, in your little corner 1:10:18.400 --> 1:10:21.400 of the basketball universe. No, man, I'm not in competition 1:10:21.520 --> 1:10:27.599 for anybody. Man, everybody is happy runs out here, run shot, run, 1:10:27.720 --> 1:10:30.479 shooting dump. Say no, the real run and Drew League 1:10:30.600 --> 1:10:33.720 slamming jam. You know what I'm saying. We were all, 1:10:34.479 --> 1:10:37.000 you know, just a part of this basketball fabric up here. 1:10:37.120 --> 1:10:39.280 You know what I'm saying. You know that's my dude 1:10:39.320 --> 1:10:41.840 over there. You know what I'm saying, Just Hunt, You know, 1:10:41.920 --> 1:10:43.920 I held it down for years for everybody out there, 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:45.560 when I was the strongest voice out of here and 1:10:45.600 --> 1:10:48.240 make sure everybody ate I was doing things, you know, 1:10:48.960 --> 1:10:57.400 So I'm real big with the network sponsorship. That's what 1:10:57.439 --> 1:11:00.519 I want to get. Well, man, we look and forward 1:11:01.160 --> 1:11:04.880 to what's in store the summer and and for everything 1:11:04.960 --> 1:11:07.000 that you do. I know the Real Run has the 1:11:07.080 --> 1:11:10.680 travel ball au team too, so you're doing that. Then 1:11:10.720 --> 1:11:13.559 you're president of the Real Run Foundation, which we talked about. 1:11:13.640 --> 1:11:15.280 It does a lot of work in the community, tries 1:11:15.320 --> 1:11:19.400 to bridge sports and community activism and things like that. Brother, 1:11:19.439 --> 1:11:23.320 We appreciate everything that you do, d A, your contributions 1:11:23.360 --> 1:11:27.120 over the last thirty years to this game. Brother, me personally, 1:11:27.200 --> 1:11:28.840 having known you for as long as I do, just 1:11:28.920 --> 1:11:30.920 wanted to give you a major shout out because you're 1:11:30.960 --> 1:11:33.679 somebody that just since I've met you, you've never ceased 1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:36.439 to amaze me. So it's always something where just like 1:11:36.560 --> 1:11:39.160 you're recently. Look, he ain't gonna tell you, but he 1:11:39.240 --> 1:11:41.640 was named City commissioners city of Carson. I mean, he 1:11:41.760 --> 1:11:44.439 gets he gets honored by the State Assembly, the Black 1:11:44.520 --> 1:11:47.240 Caucus with all kinds of stuff. Y'all have no idea 1:11:47.640 --> 1:11:50.080 who this dude is. He's one of the It's one 1:11:50.120 --> 1:11:52.880 of the dopest dudes that I've known. And I appreciate you, 1:11:53.000 --> 1:11:54.880 my brother, and uh, thank you so much man for 1:11:54.960 --> 1:11:57.519 coming on kJ A Live. Appreciate you have me on 1:11:57.680 --> 1:12:00.280 kJ Live. Look forward to it. Man, I have a 1:12:00.360 --> 1:12:05.000 great gratulation, much love, thanks d A, Yes, Sir, I