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Speaker 1: This is kJ Live with Chris john Sallen and Chris

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Speaker 1: is having conversations with influencers in the sports world and

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Speaker 1: entertainment in the strain. Now here's Chris Johnson. You're now

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Speaker 1: to being in the kJ Live. Today's guests on the show.

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Speaker 1: He's director of film Marketing for Up Time Interview Trent.

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Speaker 1: He's also one of Southern California's most notorious connectors and

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Speaker 1: most iconic influencers. He went to Long Beach State and

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Speaker 1: Bourbon Day. Is a former international professional the Anthony Lankstein.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Brother, Thanks kJ. I appreciate it now.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you man. You're hard man to track down.

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Speaker 1: I know you don't typically do this type of thing,

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Speaker 1: so it's quite an honor to have you on the show. Brother.

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Speaker 1: What's been up, man? Just what's been up lately? Dog?

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Speaker 1: What's been up to? Man? Listen, I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: I'm blessed. I just having right, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just having it right. So I'm really really blessed.

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Speaker 1: I'm just you know, man, Well, that's great to hear. Man.

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Speaker 1: I saw on the internet. I believe it's you had

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Speaker 1: posted some stuff the other day you were back in

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Speaker 1: Slovenia or somewhere overseas. Talk a little bit about that. Man,

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Speaker 1: what took you back to Slovenia? Why were you out there?

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Speaker 1: Dog d a stuff? Right? Well, Um, every time the

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Speaker 1: Marvericks come in town, I go support Nico. You know,

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Speaker 1: Nico Harrison, the director and you know him through my

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Speaker 1: little brother overseas, you know, and Nike VP and Nike

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Speaker 1: like twenty years something like that. Now he's the president

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Speaker 1: and the manager of Mathis. You know, I was just

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Speaker 1: going down to see him when they come down. That's

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Speaker 1: the time on the go to you know, see lakes

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Speaker 1: and clippers and so, you know, I noticed some people

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Speaker 1: in my seat. It's like, okay, no problem, I'll sit

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Speaker 1: five rolls back. You know, I'm just chilling. So the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarters coming and I'm still chilling. So some cats

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Speaker 1: come up like yo, man, you know our seats out

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Speaker 1: look like because there were seats really right, said listen, bro,

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Speaker 1: my seat to down there. Okay, right, don't act like

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Speaker 1: I'm just is. You know, I'm not supposed to be

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Speaker 1: right there. My seats are down there. Bro, So dude,

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Speaker 1: I go down to my seats. You know what I'm

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Speaker 1: saying one of the cats of sitting in my seats.

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Speaker 1: I said, excuse me, I said, uh, it's my seat

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Speaker 1: and they kicked me out. Was sitting back there. They

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Speaker 1: kicked me out, man, So I'm sorry, I don't have

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Speaker 1: anywhereas he said, what do you mind if I scoot

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Speaker 1: over us? Not at all? Sitting down wrapping to him,

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Speaker 1: and I hear him talking some language that I'm familiar with, right,

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Speaker 1: and so we're language you guys, you guys from like Sylvaniassikaya.

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Speaker 1: Way wait, you say what Cokaya? What's Coasakaya? How are

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Speaker 1: you doing? That's a little Duncan ship. Yeah, bro, you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying straight up. That's my team right here,

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Speaker 1: all right. So so wait, do you're telling me that you,

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Speaker 1: by chance you went to visit Niko Harrison to President

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Speaker 1: GM of the Mavericks at the Laker game. You got

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Speaker 1: your seat, someone was actually sitting in your seats. Fourth quarter,

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Speaker 1: com somebody kicks you out your seats, So you go

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Speaker 1: to your original seat and ask the people that are

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Speaker 1: sitting there in the move and they happened to be

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Speaker 1: so Slovenian cast that knew you. Listen, bro, So I'm talking.

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Speaker 1: He's like, uh, who are you? I just like, you

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Speaker 1: know you Cooper, I said, because Eric Cooper play over

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Speaker 1: there with me. We're the first Americans over there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so he cool, eat cool eat cool? I said, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm you see him just right up. He's like Langston

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Speaker 1: I said yeah. He said, oh my god, man, I

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Speaker 1: used to watch you when I was a kid over

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Speaker 1: I'm the director of Olympia now man, It's like, what

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Speaker 1: are you like? So he starts telling to the rest

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Speaker 1: of the people with Olympia that's there watching Luca. You know, like, yo,

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Speaker 1: this is the Anthony Legs and it's like, oh my god, man.

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Speaker 1: So you know that was that was a special moment. Then,

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Speaker 1: you know, I saw Luca's dad, you know there, you know,

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Speaker 1: look as that part, you know, Looka's dad or you

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Speaker 1: play again some way. No, No, he was on a

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Speaker 1: younger team when I was over there. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Sode, real quick, real quick. Let's establish this.

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Speaker 1: What team did you play for over there? What's the

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Speaker 1: name of the club Olympia? Okay, okay, And that's saying

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Speaker 1: Luke Lubijana, Lubiana, Lubiana, Lubiana. Okay, It's like the Yankees,

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Speaker 1: the Bear Liver Cools and yeah, not for France, not Lemo.

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Speaker 1: They just ridled off some of the games. That was historical.

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Speaker 1: Bro Well. Actually in the eight late eighties and nineties,

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Speaker 1: Lemoes was so off the debt. Remember Kevin Michael Brooks.

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Speaker 1: It was another dude, Kevin McKie. That was awesome because

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Speaker 1: Lamos they had like five Americans. They had a bunch

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Speaker 1: of French dah my man, what's what No, he played

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Speaker 1: in Israel. Kevin McGee, That's what I'm thinking of. They

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Speaker 1: best internationals ever. Though. Kevin McGee was a monster. So

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Speaker 1: he was unbelievable. I remember, you know, I remember him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was like all American. Yea, he killed over there.

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Speaker 1: I know he was. Okay, go ahead. So at the

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Speaker 1: game and we're talking, you know, man, just like nose,

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Speaker 1: you know, started talking about the seventy five year anniversary

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Speaker 1: of our team Olympia. This year is the seventy five

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Speaker 1: year anniversarys praises the NBA seventy five years. So they're

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Speaker 1: doing these you know, honoring people. You haven't folks, come,

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking. I'm like like, bro, I'm like, I'm

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Speaker 1: telling my teammates boys slout code Roman. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: hitting them over the phone. It's like, dude, I see

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Speaker 1: you man. You guys can't get me down there. It

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Speaker 1: was going on. So I run into them and it's

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Speaker 1: just like when we love it, how you come down?

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what from there? You know it was down there?

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Speaker 1: You know, you know it was a wonderful time. Man.

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Speaker 1: You know, my boy boys picked me up from the airport.

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Speaker 1: You know that many people trying to be there from

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Speaker 1: the airport. It's crazy, bro, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: just like you know, yeah, you know, so I was.

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Speaker 1: I was fortunate, so I hadn't been there since ninety three,

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Speaker 1: and so they my cod It's it's like an iconic coacht,

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Speaker 1: Mango's Agathan over there. Okay, magic coacht. That's by far.

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Speaker 1: But that's really cool man, that you still were able

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Speaker 1: to maintain that rapport overseas. I totally get it. I

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Speaker 1: had the same type of situation over in Qatar, Bro,

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Speaker 1: twenty years ago. I put it down out there. Man,

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Speaker 1: them dudes, I'm still friends with them dudes to this day.

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Speaker 1: Due that's a hell of a journey man, just to

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Speaker 1: even have that type of story to talk about, Bro,

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Speaker 1: you know, being cool twenty years later, to be able

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Speaker 1: to rock out, being honored literally in Slovenia home and

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Speaker 1: look at nine years excuse me, excuse me twenty nine

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Speaker 1: years ago. Bro, I guess that really just speaks to

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Speaker 1: you know how you put it down over there? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean we all like to go places,

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Speaker 1: and you know, we always gave aff so you can

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Speaker 1: never fought that from us. Sometimes it's just special, you know.

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Speaker 1: And you know European Cup team, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: Eric Cooper because he hits me up, It's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: you know, d come on over man. I was just like, bro,

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Speaker 1: anything worn over there? You know, like no, no, I said, Man,

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Speaker 1: come on, Bro'm be having me coming over there. I

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Speaker 1: gonna be real hot at you. Bro. You know, so

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Speaker 1: like no, man, it's ressaid, look though, not have me

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Speaker 1: come over here, man. You know what I'm saying. Russ

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Speaker 1: he said about it. You know, a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: you've seen some tanks come through here, but they kept

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Speaker 1: going and this and I'm like, so I started researching it.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm just like, okay, you know what over there,

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Speaker 1: first day of practice, I walk in see cast seven, one,

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Speaker 1: six and eleven sixteen six times, I'm like cast three

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Speaker 1: sixty and five twenty going. I'm like, oh wow, we

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Speaker 1: this is sick right here. Man. So I originally they

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Speaker 1: he couldn't play. He couldn't he couldn't just pay work.

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Speaker 1: So was the last minute distance right? So they they

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Speaker 1: get me. Okay, we got this big dude whatever. You know,

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Speaker 1: that much early on, now what I'm staying, we really weren't.

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Speaker 1: It was like tripping me out. I'm just like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: I mean it got so bad that I quit playing

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Speaker 1: hard against the practice and because the more I would dominant,

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Speaker 1: like unless I would play. So Smigle hits me up

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Speaker 1: one day. You know when you first come here, you

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Speaker 1: know you dominate. Now you don't do ships? That is

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Speaker 1: that how your smile? Impersonation? Your impersonation European coach right there?

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Speaker 1: Not a good one. Not a lot of smuggy, so

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Speaker 1: I said to more dominant, ain't your guys unless I play.

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Speaker 1: So I don't know what's cooling up right? Sure you

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Speaker 1: think I care about these little games right here, right

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Speaker 1: now we're getting ready for euro League. You know I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. So what's up? Opening rhyme right in Istanbul?

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, uh, Sloko get hurt, that's all. Kevin

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Speaker 1: McHale six eleven K. He gets hurt. So he's out

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Speaker 1: for a couple of months. So I'm the next man up.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this, right. So you know, they

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Speaker 1: make a phone call to Utah. Our junior national team

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Speaker 1: is there playing in Utah, Serania. So he brings Mario

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Speaker 1: straight from America. Okay, I'm that's shady, man, that's why.

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Speaker 1: But but but to have that experience internationally when you

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Speaker 1: first started playing the game, bro take us back to

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Speaker 1: the beginning. Man, did you ever dream of being a

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Speaker 1: pro as a child when you were growing up? Where

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Speaker 1: were you from? Man? Like, how did you get started

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Speaker 1: in the game. That's kind of what I want off

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Speaker 1: our audience to get the picture of well, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't start vault why not? Why not? Why not?

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Speaker 1: Why didn't start playing ball in the the ninth grade? And

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Speaker 1: in my neighborhood, Uh, they were playing the gym. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess they at least going to the gym. But

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Speaker 1: we couldn't go up to to gym. You know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Moms wouldn't happen. That was what neighborhood is

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Speaker 1: this Nickerson Gardens. Okay, So to tap the table of

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Speaker 1: Nickerson Gardens housing projects. Um, when the housing projects situation started,

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Speaker 1: which was what the sixties, the early sixties, the fifties,

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Speaker 1: there were what four major projects or was Nickerson Guardens

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Speaker 1: one of the original four? And just write that down

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Speaker 1: for me. Oh, Knickson Garden is definitely you know what

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Speaker 1: it was. It was meant for people in the military,

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Speaker 1: military and stuff like that, the brick housing and all that.

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Speaker 1: And so when the people were coming from the south

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Speaker 1: coming down here and stand these temporary cribs, it was like, YO,

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Speaker 1: ship way better than ours, you know down south, Like Yo,

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Speaker 1: the weather is great out here, you know, I mean

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Speaker 1: the nice apartments, you know what I'm saying. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's you know, everybody's working the long storm in the military.

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Speaker 1: That's what I was in the projects, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Very interesting came on. You know some people

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Speaker 1: in my life. My family, I say, no question, sixty

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Speaker 1: sixty years in there. My family, grandmother, Mom threw us

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Speaker 1: Somebody catching you right there? You know they pressing is

418
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 1: what it is. You know, twenty to one of don't

419
00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: matter you guys, you know how many bess simple as

420
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: that right there? So you know, next year I was

421
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: tripping in school. I went to another school and then

422
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: moms uh end up sitting me the riverside with my

423
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: pops part of the ninth grade year and part of

424
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: temper and I went to all these high school so

425
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: you know some notable guys out there that were in

426
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: the league. Billy Walker, you know from J. W. North

427
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 1: Tony Walker's brother. You know those two do probably got

428
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: like ten thousand assistant. I was at Monkston as long

429
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: we l m U. You know what I'm saying, Uh,

430
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: Kelvin Butler, Kevin Butler, once U C. L a er

431
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: A Live the Keble could really play in high school

432
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: market frong with l m u Enoch Simmons, Greg Matthews,

433
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: you know, Reggie Miller. You know what I'm saying that.

434
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: You know they are all in that league, right and

435
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: I believe you know, so you know that's when I

436
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: started hooping. When I went out there, there's like, YO,

437
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: six three ninth grade from l A Man, you know

438
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm here, but you know, I had

439
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: not played hoop before going out there, so naturally I

440
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: was as good as everybody hoped I was, you know,

441
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 1: but I was like maybe the you know eight nine

442
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,400
Speaker 1: eight man on JV or whatever ninth grade. So uh,

443
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: going into the tenth grade. You know how the forest

444
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 1: scene in JV split up. We need the same gym

445
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,400
Speaker 1: practice at the same time. Varsity go down here, JB

446
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: go down to this side, So you know, I'm going

447
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: to JV and coach area like the Anthony go down

448
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: this way are It's like what I mean, I go

449
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: from just planning and now I'm down there practice with divorce. Okay,

450
00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm shooting a couple of sides and coach area on YO.

451
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: If you're gonna take that shot right there. You gotta

452
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: make an eight ten times, so that means you gotta

453
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: shoot after practice there you understand me. Oh yeah, so

454
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: that free to line jumper, you know when I was dead,

455
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: you know, so wh wa wa wa in that in

456
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 1: that going on? So and moving back uh to l a,

457
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: you know, trying to find a school. I was like

458
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: chesting the buston morning side. Free your mind to watch.

459
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,520
Speaker 1: You know, you're trying to getting schools back in the day.

460
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: You're trying to get into decent school, trying to find

461
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: somebody that's gonna let you in. You know, no, no, no, no, okay,

462
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: well there, so I went to lock lock. Now where's

463
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: lock located? Okay? How close is that to Nickerson Gardens?

464
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,399
Speaker 1: It's probably like two miles from me walk. Okay, so

465
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: you walk to school. You walk the lock every day. Now,

466
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: now it sounds like if two miles, so what was

467
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 1: your local high school? Then what was the high school

468
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 1: closest to the Nikosons. It's really actually compor Centennial. So

469
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: if you're walking the lock, how are they acting about

470
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: you coming to school? Over there? Was? That? Was it

471
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: all good? And they jumped on me up there jumped

472
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: on me. Bro, straight up, they jumped on you know,

473
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: shout up to up time, you know, right here man

474
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: go pine apple love it. No, they jumped on me.

475
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: So you know I had to figure out. You know,

476
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: So I was ditching in Vermin day because I was

477
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: scared to go back to school. Right, they were waiting

478
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: waiting for me to come the game members waiting for Hey.

479
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 1: So I'm dead to the Vermin day because one of

480
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 1: my boys is that mean everything. Okay, okay, So I'm

481
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: ditching the verb because I know if I go back

482
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 1: a lock, you know it's h I gotta have certain

483
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 1: boys that are there with me, missing school. You're doing

484
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: all types of stuff. How what are you telling mom?

485
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 1: Or is she at work all day? Moms is at work?

486
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: Mom at work? So mab one time, No, some dudes

487
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: like rush me. So I had some dudes from that

488
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: side of the town, like there was a hoop team

489
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: and hey, hey, just and messing with it. So one

490
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,479
Speaker 1: day I'm going to lock. It's coldest. Heck, I got

491
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: a T shirt on, right, and Mom's like we're jacking

492
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: at Remember the blue hoodie you had back there that

493
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 1: chipped up the blue and black joints. Yeah, yeah, I

494
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: couldn't find my eyes. Somebody got me for it. So

495
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: Mom's like here mom working shipyards. She pulled a red

496
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: and black penalty app and threw it to me and

497
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 1: told me put it on. You bet not lose this.

498
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: I can't tell Mom came with it's something there, Are

499
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: you kidding me? Put it's wrong with you? None of that.

500
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: She doesn't understand its other you know what's going on?

501
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: Really award up there, and it's just like it was unbelievable.

502
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: Dudes like boy, like, why would you wear that up

503
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: um everywhere? You know what I'm saying. You know you

504
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: can't make this type of stuff up. But you know,

505
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: it's just just what it is, you know. So my boys,

506
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: that was riders up there from that side there was

507
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: a team or whatever. It's like, hey, we're gonna walk

508
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: you out. You gotta find another school man. You got

509
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 1: much love for you, but you can't come here though.

510
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, that they own you. I'm

511
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: a verb. Yeah whop my boys you know they they

512
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,479
Speaker 1: in Pe. So uh, the JV coach is hitting me up.

513
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: I started to run because I don't know that I

514
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: was supposed to be up to right if I said

515
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: my name right, here's what it is. So he asked

516
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: me where I go to school. I told you Mark,

517
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,880
Speaker 1: He said, you want to come here. I want to

518
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: come here my whole life, and I can't afford it.

519
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: He said, you know, I think you know I could

520
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: help you out. Said follow me. So I'm thinking about

521
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: running about to take me, about to call the police,

522
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, all that type of stuff. So I'll go

523
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: off to the front and UH introduced me to father

524
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,239
Speaker 1: James Thomas Sayings, who was a president of school UH

525
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 1: Sports Biking of Southern California seventy eighties. M sit down

526
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: and talk to him and he's like, hey, you know

527
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: you want to go here, said I've always wanted for

528
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: the first just can't afford this, you know, he said,

529
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: I love. Well, make you a deal if you come

530
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: work for me on Sundays during being three hours, nine

531
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: and twelve. That would be a tuitioning. Yes, what is bingo?

532
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: What is being don't the citizens playing bingo? Is it

533
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: a game? Yeah? Bingo? I don't know, I don't know

534
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: what beingo with. So it's a game, so b card

535
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 1: board game? Okay, cardboard game. Yeah. So you know you

536
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 1: they're picking in numbers B forty four, you know, B

537
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: I N G O. See the citizens love it right,

538
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 1: helping out Ms Harris is you know like when I

539
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: finished that, like in her little kitchen, you know, she

540
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 1: got the black and white TV watching the NFL. It's

541
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 1: at that time. It is my favorite sport, you know what.

542
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: I'm watching the NFL and all the games. Right there

543
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: she's cooking me in his five chicken this uh this

544
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: cheesy macaroni and cheese, some greens, you know, like soda.

545
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: It was unbelievable, man. So that's how I got an

546
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: a verb what's out by by doing the being yeah,

547
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: you know, working working on the weekend, doing being man.

548
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: So you know I was, you know, I remember buff

549
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: for remember Buffarillo. I remember buff really there's my story

550
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 1: about buff Relo. I think I appeared on his radio show.

551
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: I showed up with my dad. I was about twelve

552
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: years old because Buffarillo was a radio guy and it

553
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: was me Buffarillo. My dad is Sydney Weeks. And that

554
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 1: when I first heard the Sidney Wicks talk about how

555
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: he lets his game do the talking, like he wasn't

556
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: much of a talker. He just let his game do

557
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: the talking. But that's my butch real story allegenda. So

558
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, we we have our banquet and when I

559
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: come to verb, they are already good. You know. I

560
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: come in like they already got played like eleven twelve games,

561
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,320
Speaker 1: so you know, figuring out. So we're at a banquet

562
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: and I met the boy for REALO, I don't know

563
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: who he was. He got up on the microphones like

564
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 1: you know. I told father James, I did not want

565
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 1: to come here today. I just wasn't feeling good. I

566
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: made a promise just this wasn't feeling I met this kid,

567
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: the Anthony Lankson, right, he just changed my whole outcome.

568
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,359
Speaker 1: And what you know, just like all the fathers were

569
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: up there like, oh, what do you say to him?

570
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 1: Is something? You know what I said to him? You

571
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying is, you know I'm up there shining.

572
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: They're up there with their sons. I'm up there so long,

573
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: they up there with moms and pops. You know what

574
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 1: I'm saying at the banquet, I'm so long. You know

575
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. I'm talking about for real low Later on,

576
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: of course, I found out how big time he was,

577
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: and he had his come down to Dodger Stadium meet

578
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: Tom the sort I remember I was. I think it

579
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: was Ferguson, Like I was like on first base and

580
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, man in one of us, man like

581
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 1: trying to steal second base on bro. You know what

582
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Dodger Stadium right there, Tim, he was getting

583
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: let me get that off la sorta coach sorta didn't

584
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: let me get that off man. So did that man?

585
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: You know, as a successful you know, Ronning verne By

586
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: successful because Verbon Day is one of the greatest programs

587
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,920
Speaker 1: in the history of Laws Angeles. We'll successful. What do

588
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: you mean, well, four five guys, My senie got scholarship, right,

589
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: So my team, as far as the team collective, we

590
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: lost the Long Bees probably in the semifinals a c

591
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: IF and Polly won a national championship, and so they

592
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, they'd be crunched up. Yeah, Data, Brent Hassan,

593
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: you know those John So, John Williams, the great John Williams,

594
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: Data and Chris Sound them to the nicest dudes in

595
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 1: my time, you know. So they had those dudes right there.

596
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: So we end up losing the semifinals with the ironic

597
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: thing with that right there. Ron Palmer became my coach

598
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: at long Re State. So when he won a national

599
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,120
Speaker 1: championship at Polly, they gave him the job at long

600
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 1: Re State. They gave it to him later to So

601
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: now you looking for the players. You know what, I

602
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I don't have any scholarship offers. I got one of

603
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: La bar you know what I'm saying the texts. I'm

604
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: not cooling man, Just you know, I go to do

605
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: the college first. So long we State came up. You know,

606
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: one of one of the players who went to Polity

607
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: training for he was his pops. Like yo, you know,

608
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 1: because Palmer looking for players, that's a naturally it's just like, oh,

609
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: one of the big guys in Bourbon day, I want him.

610
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I said that, just I said I want him. That's

611
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 1: your But what was your dream school coming out of

612
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: high school? D Like? What position were you in? Like

613
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: when you when you sat home at night and you

614
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: thought about it, what what was your dream school? Was

615
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: it Long Beach State? No? I was just c l

616
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: A like every other kid growing up in a Sanels

617
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm it was it was once I

618
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: started getting to it, it was just c l A,

619
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, and you know didn't happen. But you know,

620
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: long we stay was cool though. It worked out great,

621
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, but every you know mine, just like when

622
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: I was just like because I used to watch you know,

623
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: David green Wood and Roy Hamlets they went to Vermon

624
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: day c l A starts you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

625
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 1: feels you know what I'm saying, Cliff Fru you know

626
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: all those dudes of verb dudes man, you know, and

627
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: so I'm just like, man, I want to I want

628
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 1: to go there too as well. You know. So that

629
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: didn't happen. I went there, and when I graduated, I

630
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: was top five scour and rebound. Hey yeah, when I graduate,

631
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: of course, you know I'm still top twenty. But there's

632
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 1: been a lot of great players that come through there,

633
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: and a little bit Rock Loyd, you know, a little

634
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: Brian Russell, Lucia's Harris, Lucia's Harris. You know what, I

635
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know, b Russ got me, you know what I'm saying.

636
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is there's great players that went

637
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: through Long Beach State. Okay, so That's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah,

638
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: no question about it. You know what I'm saying. So,

639
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: you know, I would like preseason All American candidate. You

640
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 1: know this and that? So uh, I end up after

641
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: my senior year, you know, and we end up losing,

642
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: losing to Stanford first round in I t yikes, who

643
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 1: they have? How are it right? Grandfather Todd Licht? How

644
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: do you lose? The Todd Lichty dog lit seven? I

645
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: had one of my I have probably my best game

646
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: as a collegiate player. You know what I'm saying against

647
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: Stanford Howard right, remember me bold me one time? Right game?

648
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: I was just like this, Listen, my man, if you

649
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 1: ever bow me like that again, you know I'm gonna

650
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: knock you out on this court. I don't give a

651
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 1: funk about all these none of that bow me again,

652
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I absolutely went out

653
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: there and murdered them. And you know, even though we lost,

654
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: it felt good because you know, we just serve people.

655
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 1: You just serve them. You know, you lose a close game,

656
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: it's like, bro, you know, okay, yeah, you guys, wont

657
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: you know I was serving you? You knows? And then

658
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,640
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662
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: That year, I'll get a job in Holland, so I'll

663
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: go to Holland and play What part of Holland? What

664
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: part of Holland did you go to? What city? Ben Helder?

665
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 1: Ben Helder talk to me about Holland talked about Holland.

666
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: I've been a lot of places. I didn't spend a

667
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: ton of time. I spent a little bit of time

668
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: in a coffee shop in Amsterdam during a break when

669
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: I stopped at Kinople and uh, I went got some coffee,

670
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,280
Speaker 1: some really good coffee and uh, but I was wondered

671
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 1: what life was like in Holland with the Dutch. Talk

672
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: to me, man, it was it was awesome. It was

673
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, people were friendly, is heck? You know, a

674
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: small time like being Helder? What year? What year was this? Nine?

675
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 1: And had Holland had brothers there before? Absolutely Dutch colleague.

676
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, nothing Dutch colony. Dog they're

677
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,919
Speaker 1: over there, brod creersol you know, sing a little yeah

678
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 1: yeah bro, you know, so they're over there. So yeah,

679
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: it was cool. You know, and how did you play

680
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: over there? How was your squad? How'd y'all do? And

681
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: we were nice. So I had a Bobby Knight type

682
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: of coach and it's still Tombo was not you know

683
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everybody do it too. He's just crazy.

684
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: So he just he stayed on me. Man, It's just dude.

685
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: Why is this dude gonna be like this? Man just constantly? Man?

686
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: You know, now in the big games, he would never

687
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 1: bother you the weak games. And you know, he had

688
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: put me in first of all, I'm not starting, okay.

689
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: He had put me in for the first free throw

690
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: and take me out for the second free to custom

691
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: me out. Yeah, so I wanted. I remember we're getting

692
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:00,880
Speaker 1: ready to go play like qualifying against ray C Paris, right,

693
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: and uh, Michael Kennedy and big lead get us. But uh,

694
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: the coach and the president of team was like, yeah,

695
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're probably gonna send you home, you know

696
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: after this game. You know, I'm like, okay, no problems.

697
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: You know, I'm ready to go. I've been over there.

698
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: Had you got your money yet? Had you been paying yet? Yeah?

699
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 1: I've been there for like four or five min I

700
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: went over like in August preseason. You know what I'm saying.

701
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: So I'm like, no, I'm tired. So I said, okay,

702
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 1: no problem, see me home. I go out to the game.

703
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: I got like thirty and fifteen. We upset them, right,

704
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: I caught off the bench. We upset them. Of course

705
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: they can't cut me because they can't bring another American

706
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: in for the European Cup. They gotta use the ones

707
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: that they qualified. Wow. So I'm stuck. So now, man,

708
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: get me off this team said, oh man, you're the

709
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: European Cup. Man. So I don't care, man, No, Man,

710
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: you're right here. Man. So you know I got a

711
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: chance to go. You know Ukraine, you know I'm KIF

712
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: and Moscow, you know St. Petersburg, Lithuania, you know, through

713
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: all those places right in the European Cup. Man. So

714
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: uh remember Alexander Volkoff Atlanta Hawks. Well yeah, he's fighting

715
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: in the war in Ukraine right now. Of course, I remember,

716
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: how does that a vote? Yes, Sasha, you know what

717
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So he's considered the greatest player ever from Ukraine,

718
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: and U no, I just never forget it. You know

719
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 1: we're playing him at home in college, and you know

720
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 1: you played one of homes in a way, so we're

721
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,399
Speaker 1: playing them, but they just everybody's oh many's gonna kills.

722
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna drop fifty on us. Oh man. You know, yeah,

723
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: like you had like you know, eighteen or nineteen. You know,

724
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: I probably had fourteen and you know nobody else had

725
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: nothing because it was shook. Yeah you know. Yeah, now

726
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: court to Night was on the team with some longs.

727
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: That's a difference right there. You know. So when we

728
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: go back to my scot, like, you know, I matched

729
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: up with volk Off from like just right here, y'all

730
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: don't want this. I want this here, he's lead, He's

731
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: gonna leave and talking. Man, I know, like what, we

732
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: lost a close games and I found out probably like

733
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: a minute ago, that was like my second standard ovation overseas. Yeah,

734
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: found out the standard ovation that serve bo like well,

735
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: I know the n B A show but I don't know,

736
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,399
Speaker 1: but you telled me right when I was my game

737
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: was just like sicking. I was like a small forward

738
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 1: back there too, you know for sure. Well after Europe,

739
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: now you had all those high level experiences in Europe,

740
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: how did you end up locking down Japan? I know

741
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: you spent a considered amount of time over there. How

742
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: did that happen that you went from europe high level

743
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 1: European competition to dominating the Japan League for over a

744
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: decade if I'm correct right, Well, now I was over

745
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: there for six years. Excuse me, six years, but I

746
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,320
Speaker 1: was actually gonna go back to Louisiana Olympia. Okay, Like

747
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 1: I said, you know, coach loved me. You know, towns

748
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: just you know, being Anthony. It's just like it's just yours,

749
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: you know. So I had always wanted to go to Japan.

750
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: The coach and I used to coach at cal State

751
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: Domicus Hills Freemant High School and cow Sa l A.

752
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: You know, I know him since high school and he's

753
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: always tell me how nice this plan. So I was like,

754
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: oh wow, really, you know I's I hear stories, man,

755
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: I want to get there. So you know in Slovania,

756
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 1: who practicing three times today? Three times? And then they

757
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: just not no practice, they are practice. You guys are

758
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: on the court three times a day on court actually

759
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: five on five going up and down. Or did you

760
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: have a morning practice with shooting a little bit in

761
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: the middle with some weights and then y'all went hard

762
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: in the evening it went hard off three times. Smigo

763
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: wasn't having it, bro. Yeah, that's back then when the

764
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: coaches would be kind of just dictatorship type dudes and

765
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: just no question about it. Yeah we're going home. Our

766
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: warm up is every morning, like three miles in the mountains,

767
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: and the mountains right next to the gym, tipicy hall,

768
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: okays we have it was just like yo, so but

769
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: I was in such love with it, with the community,

770
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: the country, and look, okay, well'm wenna come back. I

771
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 1: know once Japan came with that bread, you know what

772
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: I'm saying, and I was just like it was like yo, man,

773
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: the only practice three times a week, like what I

774
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,040
Speaker 1: Wasn't Japan really like that? Man? Was it really like that?

775
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: Back when you first got the gig, not a lot

776
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: of practice to paying you, you know, twenty thousand a

777
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: month or whatever. I used to hear these rumors and

778
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: then I heard they give you a job like you know,

779
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 1: a plenty of Panasonic Katachi. You could get a job

780
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: if you had played for the team. Is that true? Man? Now, listen,

781
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 1: when I came there that year, you know they did

782
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: away with the jobs. Job Listen, bro, you come there.

783
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: You work for Panasonic, mr BC. I'm saying, Mit, Sue,

784
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: you know you need the messo. The Americans are going

785
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: there and just sitting down. You know, it's like what

786
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: you want me to do. So it's like, look, the

787
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: America's gotta be pros. They can't come to the office,

788
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: you know. So I came in on that right there.

789
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: So I got there. I was just like, all right,

790
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: I got the linck over there. Then, you know, to

791
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 1: my connection to a Spencer came through Stevie Thompson came

792
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: through Robin Kirksey, Jaquin Jones. You know, I just had

793
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: a flood floodgate of dudes that I plugged to go

794
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: to Japan, I mean, to go to Japan. It was

795
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 1: I untreal. I just had, you know, connect playing with

796
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 1: Stevie Man, He's aid he's a Chrishaw legend. Played against

797
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: Steve or did you play on your team Stevie? Yeah,

798
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: so you didn't play on my team over there. I'm sorry,

799
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: you know you did. But I got all those guys

800
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: into Japan. You know, I had twenty cast that was

801
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: over there playing from l A. Just to talk about

802
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 1: Stevie for a second, that's Ethan Thompson and Stevie Thompson

803
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 1: Jr's dad coach. He was assistant coach at the Oregon

804
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: State for the last several years. Was a part of

805
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: that Elite eight run, successful Elite run eight run that

806
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: they had. And so I can go to Japan with Stevie.

807
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: So did I know when I was in Qatar like

808
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: Americans we all hung out? Was it the same way

809
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: in Japan? Like did y'all kicking with each other and

810
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 1: hang out? Listen? Chen Douce from l A, Tokyo. Oh,

811
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 1: that's that's prouble. That's trouble, man, Hey, that's trouble. Who

812
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: who Who are the most the tories of the tid

813
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: that you can name off the top of your head

814
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: right now, the most notorious. Yeah, Tray Spancy, rest in peace, man,

815
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: Rest in peace? Right? Stev over there? You had Robbin

816
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:45,680
Speaker 1: over there, Robin Kirksey, loyal America Jones Uh from Pepperline, North,

817
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: Hollywood High you had Charles Rosslyn s l A. Yeah, Wow, Yeah,

818
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean that's dope. Yeah, guys up to in l A. Man,

819
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: it was unreal. That's dope. That's dope. Man. You spent

820
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: six years, seven years going back and forth to Japan.

821
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean you had you both your kids were born

822
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: over there. No, my son was so your son, your

823
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:17,320
Speaker 1: son is born over there. So and then at what

824
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 1: point did Japan's UH sort of wind down and you

825
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: started thinking about shutting it down or making your next move?

826
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 1: At what point two thousand h when I retired, you know,

827
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: I had a own, I had a bone spuring my achilles,

828
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: you know, get that shaved down or whatever. And so

829
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: after that, I was just like, then I ain't coming back,

830
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: you know, that was just it. So so y ain't

831
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 1: Cooper from USC Lakewood High School head coach. He was

832
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: over in Poland he was like, Dee, come on, man,

833
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: I never got a chance to play with you. I mean,

834
00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: you know I'm still nice at that time, right, I

835
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 1: really don't want to play, man, come on. So I

836
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: went over there for my a mom fans. I'm done,

837
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: you know. And then that's the time the real running

838
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: stop blowing. That's the time the real run stop bling.

839
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: I was like, talk to me, let's talk about the

840
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: real run, not the real run. UH is one of

841
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:20,400
Speaker 1: Los Angeles longest and most well known leagues basketball brands.

842
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: If you will you do? You started off as the

843
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,399
Speaker 1: summer league, but you evolved into a lot of other things.

844
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: I wanted to know about how the real run got started.

845
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: We used to play pickup ball in Veterans Sports Complex

846
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: y Stevie Thomson was encamping with the Clippers and the

847
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: Clippers just a practice in Vetman in Carson. Do you

848
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: remember that. That's right? Yeah, Donald Sterling, Yeah that's right. Yeah. Community,

849
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, for sure, Steve could we were at

850
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: we left u c l A. Why charging for parking? Ah,

851
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 1: you know, I just file all that type of stuff.

852
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 1: What magic you know, the whole crew. You know, wait,

853
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: wait talking about this, don't let's talk about this. Let's

854
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: talk about this. So you're saying, basically, you see they

855
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: had that dynamic where them guys that was in the

856
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,280
Speaker 1: league or certain Cats would be bullshitting on the fouls

857
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: and try to keep the ball on game point versus

858
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: Jews that wasn't in the league. Was it was? It

859
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 1: like some arrogant arrogance, arrogance? Remember Pat, you ain't talked

860
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: about it. Man. I don't like going on the l

861
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 1: A L A. Man. You know, magic man found every

862
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: every time down court, you can't get a workout and

863
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: how are you doing. Patrick? That's my guy man, coach,

864
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,920
Speaker 1: you is my guy man. So I used toll uh,

865
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: I'm at a line some morning on some Nike commercials

866
00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: in the early nineties. You know. Oh, me and Zo

867
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: became real cool then, you know, of course to you know, so,

868
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: I mean Pat, you know, so I just stay solid, man,

869
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, whatever that you

870
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: ain't dude, I never forget dog, So, you know, I

871
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: think it was the second time I had met him.

872
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 1: So the first time I met him was with my

873
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: dad at the All Star Game. My dad took me

874
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: over to meet Pat and Michael Jordan's. If you remember,

875
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: Mike had the white hat on the blue sweatsuit next

876
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,239
Speaker 1: to the dunk contest cud web runs, so I was.

877
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: I was there. So my dad took me over Mans

878
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: because he had rolled in the limo to the game.

879
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: He was writing in the limo with Mike and Pat,

880
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: so he was messing with them. So anyway, he takes

881
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: me over. Man, I tapped up. Pat just shows me love,

882
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: gives me a handshake. Fast forward to ninety six at

883
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: the Jordan's Dome. I we're playing, so I'm on the court.

884
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: It's me. I'm the only nine NBA guy on the court.

885
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: So the play happened. Somebody misses a shot, rebound goes

886
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: up right, So I do the thing where I put

887
00:53:56,560 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 1: my arm on Pat's shoulder and I jumped, He jumped

888
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,600
Speaker 1: and I rise right. He gives me a serious boost

889
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,560
Speaker 1: and I I literally grabbed rebelt, cut it and like

890
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 1: swung swung outlet to somebody. He literally turned, he turned

891
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:11,880
Speaker 1: and looked at me. It was like they clicked through

892
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: through that ship again. It man, I'm gonna suck you

893
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,680
Speaker 1: up literally like and they started laughing. But they started laughing,

894
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 1: so I was. I was like, I went from crependation

895
00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 1: on Patrick. You weren't about to big me up? Bro

896
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: to the smile and he was just there. He gave

897
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: me like an elbow on the way down. I was like, okay,

898
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: this is a cool cat. Pat my guy. So you

899
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 1: had to Pat. What was the ones like with Patton

900
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: Zoe If y'all had a chance to work out at all?

901
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: Oh man, it was I remember one day, Bro, I

902
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: was up there working. I would them to the kim

903
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Bay front of Riley's front of Rouse. You just know

904
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 1: how sick that is. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

905
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,400
Speaker 1: you just know how sick it is right there. You

906
00:54:57,480 --> 00:55:00,959
Speaker 1: know you just locked it. It's like, oh my god, Pat,

907
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: Pat asked my guys, my favorite coach. He showed me

908
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: so much love about this Southeast straight up after you

909
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: selled it down with the Real Run, Okay, the league goes.

910
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 1: You had several great summers in a row, super duper turnout.

911
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 1: I never forget when GP and Penny and all of

912
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: them came, and one championship game I remember going. I

913
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: was myself baron Paul Pierce going against Paul Pierce, Antoine

914
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,920
Speaker 1: Walker and you know, Derek Fishers on my squad at

915
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: Antonio Harvey and each trick. I mean, all these guys man.

916
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 1: So the real One definitely was a wonderful, wonderful era

917
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: of basketball, dude. And uh, but when did you say,

918
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: as far as the Real Run was concerned, you decided

919
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,600
Speaker 1: to kind of say, hey, I got something here. I

920
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 1: want to start touching on the youth youth basketball, the

921
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: youth movement because you got involved man, pretty quickly there,

922
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: and you made a serious mark in the grass roofs game. Yeah. No,

923
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 1: you know from m running the Summer League. You know

924
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: it takes a lot, especially when you first started, you know.

925
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: And so I got the athletic director position to head

926
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: coach at Bourbon Day High School, so I could, you know,

927
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: I had to put all my energy over there Bourbon

928
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 1: you know. And so but I kept the name going

929
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,360
Speaker 1: like Real Run Fall League, Real Run when the Classic

930
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: Real Run Spring League. You know, I was the one

931
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: that was doing the fall leagues first on Sundays. You know,

932
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: everybody followed after me. You know. It's it's crazy. It's like, yo,

933
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: when no one's doing on Sunday. So I started doing

934
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 1: on Sunday both flip overside you okay, just dude fun.

935
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: It's like, dude, man, you come up with your home blueprint. Bro.

936
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 1: You know. So you know that keeping that name going around,

937
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: you know, because eventually no that led to you know,

938
00:56:57,280 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: the Truth Program for us and here you sir. You know,

939
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,760
Speaker 1: so we had some big time players come from program,

940
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 1: Hami Hontkare Shackleford, you know, the Gumster, Josh Fritzpher, Jalen Green,

941
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:13,439
Speaker 1: you know, wow, wow, wow, Josh Yeah, Jalen Green, Josh

942
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 1: Christopher yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, Carl Lewis, Rescipe Peace,

943
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, you know, we were in peace Carl, Big Carl, Yeah,

944
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: big car Man. We had some players in there. So

945
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,200
Speaker 1: with that, my relationship with Penny Pat you know, Joan Howard,

946
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: Leonard Hamilton's you know, I was gonna stay in the

947
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: mix and trying to help kids, you know, achieve the dreams,

948
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: you know. So you know, I just stayed in it,

949
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: you know. Right now, Yes, you know, we're working on something,

950
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: uh future deal with Nike right now, so you know,

951
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: just waiting for that to finalize right there. But you know, man,

952
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: look you don't stop with me, you know. You know,

953
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna be doing me until I'm dead. You

954
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that I'm always gonna find a way.

955
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm always going to find a way to help people,

956
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: you know. And so that's that's one great thing you

957
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:09,560
Speaker 1: know about this that I'm doing now. I have a

958
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: lot of flew in friends out there that you know

959
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: what I need help. You know, I'm able to help

960
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: people that can't help themselves, you know. And so that's

961
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: the most special thing about real run starting until you know,

962
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: an all star league into high school league, college league,

963
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: you know, to my foundation right now, during a pandemic,

964
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 1: we raised like two hundred thousand dollars for the people

965
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: in Nixon Cards and then the watch area. You know

966
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 1: with Brad Pitt and Fleet. You know, Fox Sports Radio

967
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch

968
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,680
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969
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Speaker 1: and within the I Heart Radio app search f s

970
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: R to listen live. That's something I saw you doing

971
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: that on Twitter. Man. I thought that was wonderful. I

972
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 1: thought that was amazing that you were taking your time.

973
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: You were rallying the community. You're getting people out there

974
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: to feed. You were feeding you guys were feeding the community.

975
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,600
Speaker 1: And then I saw the photos of Brad and flee

976
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 1: from Red Hot Chili Peppers. That ship was wild. Man,

977
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: What what surprised you the most about having, like Sean Maryman,

978
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt and Fleet in Watts What was the most

979
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: surprising thing about their presence there? Not really, you know,

980
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: Addis is not tripping at all, bass jumping on somebody's mopay,

981
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, He's just mopay right here.

982
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: I mean's just motorcycle and go to his liquor store

983
00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: and games for cigarettes. You know, said, no security none,

984
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, and just how you know how selfish. Those

985
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: guys were, you know, really man, just like Flee brass shine,

986
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 1: those guys coming and putting in a major time. You're

987
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 1: not tripping up like love, you know. And no autographs

988
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 1: and no photos, none of that's going on. That's only

989
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: for the people from this community, right that's it. So

990
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: to see them really go out um and open up

991
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: and just like a year straight, bro, it's just like

992
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: on Fridays, man, it was enough food you know for

993
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: the families for the whole week and you know the

994
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,040
Speaker 1: whole year. Those guys probably missed like three Fridays they

995
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: and they weren't happy about that right there. So that

996
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. Man. A lot of my childhood friends, you know,

997
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 1: we got together and you know we really grinded out

998
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: and made sure, you know, shout out to my boy

999
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 1: Ricky Davis. Another real run. Let's you know, Ricky Davis,

1000
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: didn he Rick bring, didn't bring like a truck or

1001
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: somebot eight Ricky Davis and Al Harrington, Yeah big Al

1002
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,680
Speaker 1: baby Al so baby out and Tricky Rick. You know

1003
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Remember they sent like four diesels, you know,

1004
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: eighteen wheelers. I'll never forget the envoys for each one

1005
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: on for like sixty five thousand and food. Bro, you

1006
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm just like, yo, come

1007
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: over here, back up to the gym field. This and

1008
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 1: that bringing on out right here makes the phone calls

1009
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: to a few people. Got that going. Everybody coming from everywhere,

1010
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, just taking enough food man to feed their families.

1011
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: Man with great great stuff chicken, you know, milk, healthy

1012
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: stuff man, vegetables. Man. So it just wasn't like it

1013
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: was some nice food in there man. So to see

1014
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: people really rallied around that time when people needed it

1015
01:01:30,080 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: man joining COVID, you know what I'm saying, all that

1016
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,760
Speaker 1: type of stuff, It was amazing. Then, Uh, I remember

1017
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 1: you're the same time we did uh walking and watch

1018
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: Uh two of my friends Brian and Gregory, uh childhood friends.

1019
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: We collaborated and you know we did a walking to

1020
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: wash where you know, we walked down like a hunt

1021
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: third Street, you know, down there by you know neighborhoods

1022
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: you know. Back then come around, know just showing a

1023
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: brother son Dary Uh Katy Lattimore came down to perform.

1024
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,880
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, this is that but you know,

1025
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: I never forget it was like a hundred people that

1026
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: was in the you know, COVID you can end up

1027
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: have a lot of people out, so you had to

1028
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,400
Speaker 1: you know, spacing. So it was like a hundred of

1029
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: people in the man and bro it was like over

1030
01:02:22,320 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: four hundred years of incarceration in there from a few people,

1031
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,919
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm just yeah, I'm

1032
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: looking at guys that I know, the thirty eight years,

1033
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 1: thirty you know what I'm saying, thirty five you know,

1034
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: just it's amazing, man. So I'm just like, wow, man,

1035
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: we still here right here, so you know all that

1036
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,680
Speaker 1: experience right there, you know those were highlights right there. Man.

1037
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: It's just you know, having so many people like reach,

1038
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,240
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, what type of help you need?

1039
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, Mac Listen, it doesn't have

1040
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: to be you know, the movement, Black Lives Matter movement,

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01:02:57,040 --> 01:02:59,160
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. I'm always gonna help. And I'm

1042
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: always gonna underway to get some toys for some kids

1043
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: with Christmas, you know what I'm saying, Some money for school,

1044
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, books, computers, I'm always gonna do that. Man.

1045
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: That's just in me. Why why is this getting Why

1046
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: is this so much a part of the fabric of

1047
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: your DNA. Man, I grew up like that. Uh you know,

1048
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 1: it's just like I was blessed. Like I said, I

1049
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 1: never knew hunger, you know, I was blessed, you know,

1050
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: so moms made sure she provided for us. So it

1051
01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:31,520
Speaker 1: was just kind of natural, probably my grandmother, because my

1052
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: grandmother was real loving like that. But you know, once

1053
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 1: I got a chance to really come back and retired,

1054
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 1: you know, start off with Carson High School system coach

1055
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 1: and went to burb you know, didn't you know, actually

1056
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:49,960
Speaker 1: quit quitting uh coaching and being athletic directly and started

1057
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:54,280
Speaker 1: a nonprofit with Pack Nicholas and down More, you know,

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01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: called Urban Compass. So I did that for about six years,

1059
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,240
Speaker 1: you know, dealing with kids and a hundred usty school

1060
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: next to it which I went to school. And they

1061
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: grew up in the projects where I grew up at.

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01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 1: So you know, now you know, it's like those little

1063
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: kids don't know me, but their grandfather's no. But their

1064
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 1: uncles no, but they you know, So it just it

1065
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 1: worked right in hand, you know, Like some of my boys,

1066
01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, I was watching their kids while they was

1067
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: locked up, you know, and so they get out of Man.

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,360
Speaker 1: Thanks for holding it out for my son. You know,

1069
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: it's and that so I mean, it's just the humanity

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01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: thing that everybody should do help out without wanting anything

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01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: in return. That's it, you know what I'm saying. I'm

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01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 1: just like, I'm gonna do something for somebody. I ain't

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01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:43,800
Speaker 1: gonna tell everybody I'm doing it. Just okay, here you go,

1074
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,320
Speaker 1: let me help out. You know, get you in school.

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01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Here you go, You're losing

1076
01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: your career this you know, you know, making phone calls,

1077
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,720
Speaker 1: getting somebody tucked away or whatever. You know, you always

1078
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: should do that. That's the essence of you know how

1079
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: I grew up and in a community like Man, we

1080
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: was all right for each other. How does someone make

1081
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: it out of that community? How how come you made

1082
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:10,000
Speaker 1: it out? How come you're not like your boys doing

1083
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: time or you're not nothing? Statistics? My mom? You know

1084
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, My mom? You know my mama six

1085
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 1: to You know what I'm saying. So nobody she wasn't

1086
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: having no problems with nobody projects. She's one of the

1087
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: most respective ever from NIXT and guardens ever. You know,

1088
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about in a game bang type of way.

1089
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 1: On to mother type of way right there. You know

1090
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:35,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Everybody loved my mom. Oh yeah, the

1091
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: mom in the community where that that you listen to

1092
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:39,960
Speaker 1: what she had to She tells you to stop doing something.

1093
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna stop doing it now. You made go around

1094
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: the corner start doing that ship again, but not in

1095
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: front of Miss Langston Na and everybody knew it to Yo, man,

1096
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: get up, man. You know what I'm saying, Yo, Yo,

1097
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 1: the anthony your mama called her. She's calling people's phones.

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01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Just like yo, yeah, but

1099
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 1: oh man, you gotta get up out of here. I

1100
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:03,040
Speaker 1: got a bounce, you know, I got my You know moms.

1101
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 1: I ain't scanning the catch of the project. I'm stilling

1102
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: the mom's you know what I'm saying. She was like

1103
01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: six to and hey, my mom was the same way,

1104
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:15,640
Speaker 1: but she was five four bro. Hey, I'll never forget bro.

1105
01:06:16,120 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: And I've never really shared this story, but I understand

1106
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 1: what it's like to have that type of mom because

1107
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 1: when I used to live with my mom, she lived

1108
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: in the sixties neighborhood rolling the sixties, so we was

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01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,240
Speaker 1: off like sixty and ten. So I was playing one day,

1110
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was like a little my

1111
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: grandmother kind of stayed like this little project type of

1112
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: apartment building. So I'm playing, you know, next door with

1113
01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: some of the kids, and one of the kids in

1114
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: the paraplegic, so they she had the things. You know,

1115
01:06:39,920 --> 01:06:42,320
Speaker 1: she couldn't really walk and move well. So something happens

1116
01:06:42,360 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 1: while we're playing and I accidentally bumped into her and

1117
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:49,480
Speaker 1: she ended up falling, and so you know how that go.

1118
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: And so she felt Mom's her mom, her aunts, they're

1119
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:56,400
Speaker 1: trying to everybody wants to fight. So my mom literally

1120
01:06:56,600 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: she went inside, she put she she had long here,

1121
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: she tied her, she braid her here real quick type.

1122
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,200
Speaker 1: Put on this blue band Danna. She was just huged

1123
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 1: from sixties. Put on blue band Danna, and then rolled

1124
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 1: back outside with two kitchen knives. And so it rolled

1125
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:10,360
Speaker 1: by me. So I'm like, I'm trying to go. My

1126
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: uncle's holding me, and then I see what happens and

1127
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: they get into a big old things. You know, it's

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01:07:15,360 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: a lot of ship that happened in that in that moment.

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 1: But eventually my mom is getting beat up on the

1130
01:07:19,160 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: car she's bloody. So she comes back inside and I

1131
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: had to see my mom all bloodied up and ship

1132
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: after getting beat up on the car because of something

1133
01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 1: I did. But it was something I never forgot. Brother.

1134
01:07:27,800 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: It's something that stunned and it's something that kind of

1135
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:31,760
Speaker 1: made me kind of, you know, get a little ass dog.

1136
01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I know, it doesn't sound like you had

1137
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: to necessarily see that. But when I say that these

1138
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 1: type of women were raising us and that's who you know,

1139
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,880
Speaker 1: standing up for us. It wasn't a game, you know what.

1140
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 1: It was so funny. I was telling my wrong boys yesterday.

1141
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 1: I said, Man, I said, do you remember this growing up?

1142
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: This is a well known thing in the projects, Like

1143
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: the women couldn't have mann around. If you had men around,

1144
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: they go up on your rent or they kick you

1145
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 1: out of the project. Now listen, now listen, people, Yo, listen, yea, listen.

1146
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: You can't come around here for the next couple of weeks.

1147
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:16,120
Speaker 1: You know, the social workers coming out, so you know,

1148
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: Pops is getting to you know, three weeks past. You

1149
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, It's like, yo, okay for three

1150
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, you come back out tonight, you know, okay,

1151
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,120
Speaker 1: back you know next time he's gone two months, you know,

1152
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 1: and got another life going, you know what I'm saying.

1153
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: So they systematically for our families there and not wanting

1154
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: men around. What I'm saying, Yeah, that was that was

1155
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 1: that was sick. Man. Like we're eight years old. My

1156
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: best friend, Chris was murdered. It was murdered. Uh, guy

1157
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: just shout in the air. And so my older brother

1158
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: like he was up there with Chris. We went to

1159
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 1: stow with mom, and so my brother was looking and

1160
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 1: Chris like, let me look. My brother stepped down. Chris

1161
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: stepped up and down without him to the neck and

1162
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: killed him. And that was like really traumatizing for me

1163
01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: to nine, you know, and my friend we just left him.

1164
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 1: What you mean you know what do you mean? I

1165
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:16,680
Speaker 1: don't know what death is, you know what I'm saying

1166
01:09:16,800 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 1: when you talk about he dead? So that that affected

1167
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,320
Speaker 1: me a whole right there. You know that that really

1168
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,720
Speaker 1: did right there. But you know, in all in all, man,

1169
01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,400
Speaker 1: great man, you know, able to give back, you know,

1170
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 1: play sees and you know, have so many friends and

1171
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: able to do a lot. You know what I'm saying.

1172
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 1: Look forward, you know I'll be going back to Sylvania

1173
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: for business. You know, I think about a month, probably

1174
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: gonna retire over it. You know it really is, so

1175
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, getting ready for the real run this summer.

1176
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying back at veterans. You know,

1177
01:09:51,320 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: it's only college, college league or high school or all rus'

1178
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 1: he know what I'm saying. You know, so I might,

1179
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 1: I might, you know, said no, we we we we

1180
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: got the college going going heavy. You know, we definitely

1181
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 1: had that right there. But I got so many young cats.

1182
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:11,600
Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like you're in competition with

1183
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: like the Drew League or anybody any other leagues around here?

1184
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: Are you? Are you kind of just doing what you

1185
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: do in your own little pocket, in your little corner

1186
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:21,400
Speaker 1: of the basketball universe. No, man, I'm not in competition

1187
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: for anybody. Man, everybody is happy runs out here, run shot, run,

1188
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: shooting dump. Say no, the real run and Drew League

1189
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,720
Speaker 1: slamming jam. You know what I'm saying. We were all,

1190
01:10:34,479 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: you know, just a part of this basketball fabric up here.

1191
01:10:37,120 --> 01:10:39,280
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You know that's my dude

1192
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,840
Speaker 1: over there. You know what I'm saying, Just Hunt, You know,

1193
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: I held it down for years for everybody out there,

1194
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:45,560
Speaker 1: when I was the strongest voice out of here and

1195
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 1: make sure everybody ate I was doing things, you know,

1196
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: So I'm real big with the network sponsorship. That's what

1197
01:10:57,439 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: I want to get. Well, man, we look and forward

1198
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,880
Speaker 1: to what's in store the summer and and for everything

1199
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: that you do. I know the Real Run has the

1200
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 1: travel ball au team too, so you're doing that. Then

1201
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: you're president of the Real Run Foundation, which we talked about.

1202
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: It does a lot of work in the community, tries

1203
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 1: to bridge sports and community activism and things like that. Brother,

1204
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 1: We appreciate everything that you do, d A, your contributions

1205
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 1: over the last thirty years to this game. Brother, me personally,

1206
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: having known you for as long as I do, just

1207
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: wanted to give you a major shout out because you're

1208
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,679
Speaker 1: somebody that just since I've met you, you've never ceased

1209
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: to amaze me. So it's always something where just like

1210
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: you're recently. Look, he ain't gonna tell you, but he

1211
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 1: was named City commissioners city of Carson. I mean, he

1212
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,439
Speaker 1: gets he gets honored by the State Assembly, the Black

1213
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 1: Caucus with all kinds of stuff. Y'all have no idea

1214
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: who this dude is. He's one of the It's one

1215
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: of the dopest dudes that I've known. And I appreciate you,

1216
01:11:53,000 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: my brother, and uh, thank you so much man for

1217
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,519
Speaker 1: coming on kJ A Live. Appreciate you have me on

1218
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 1: kJ Live. Look forward to it. Man, I have a

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01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:05,000
Speaker 1: great gratulation, much love, thanks d A, Yes, Sir, I