Speaker 1: Of Course, Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This
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Speaker 2: guest is SML Royalty and stand up comedian Michael Cha
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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Course Love Supreme News, of
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Speaker 5: We have teams Supreme. It's probably this is our blackest episode.
Speaker 5: This is the blackest episode. Yeah yeah yeah, Steve. Well yeah,
Speaker 5: but Steve call me Tyrone today. Steve. You know you
Speaker 5: got the sugars. And actually I.
Speaker 9: Got the strangest call this morning. My doctor called me
Speaker 9: and said I was healthy. What yeah, I mean I
Speaker 9: still have.
Speaker 5: Remission. I still got sugars.
Speaker 9: But but I went the other day, took some blood
Speaker 9: tests and she called and she had like this this
Speaker 9: amazing voice of like she couldn't believe it. She was like,
Speaker 9: I'm so happy to be calling you right now. I'm
Speaker 9: I'm like, what's up. She's like, you're healthy, like with
Speaker 9: a question and an exclamation point.
Speaker 1: I was like, not shill of hands. But when he
Speaker 1: said that, I was a little slightly disappointed.
Speaker 5: I thought something else.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's such an achievement that no, no,
Speaker 1: if you I'm so committed to us.
Speaker 5: That he got blacked to.
Speaker 6: What you don't know is that Quest gave sugar Steve
Speaker 6: the sugars.
Speaker 5: Really, Steve's been my engineering for twenty years, and I
Speaker 5: guess he had to. That was my bonus. That was
Speaker 5: my bonus one year for Hank he.
Speaker 1: Had after my diet, and so you know, the entire
Speaker 1: summer of soul food literally gave him.
Speaker 8: And then you know, so, well, I'm happy that you
Speaker 8: you're healthy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean relatively. You know you seem thrilled about it.
Speaker 5: By the way, Well, it was one of those moments.
Speaker 9: I was actually sitting on the toilet and I got
Speaker 9: and I got the call from my doctor. I was like, well,
Speaker 9: this is it, you know, like this is where it
Speaker 9: is where I'm going to get the news. Right, no,
Speaker 9: and uh and and she gave me good news. I
Speaker 9: was like, a great, keep keep keep them feet.
Speaker 5: Do you have another man? Do you have another moniker? Now? Like, well,
Speaker 5: are there any other black diseases I could get, Like.
Speaker 6: There's out actually sickle cell exclusive to really black people?
Speaker 7: You can.
Speaker 8: Yeah, hypertension, hyper very black.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you know, anyway does sound great?
Speaker 6: And rhythm?
Speaker 5: Mm hmm, Well that's not a disease.
Speaker 8: Get shot by the police, possible police.
Speaker 5: We have all list institutional racism anyway, yesterday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not only the first African American host of
Speaker 1: Are we still using that?
Speaker 5: Or we're just black? I like black, I like black.
Speaker 1: All right, ladies, I guess it is not only the
Speaker 1: first black host of EST and LS esn l's institution
Speaker 1: we cannot date.
Speaker 5: But uh.
Speaker 1: Also, actually you're double first because I believe that you're
Speaker 1: the first black host of the twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5: Or the Emmys. No way, I don't think I'm the
Speaker 5: first black hosted. He did the Oscars, right, yeah, he
Speaker 5: did the Oscar Chris. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I'll be honest with you, I really don't know.
Speaker 5: I believe and I believe that you're the first black host.
Speaker 6: Oh man, George Lopez was probably the closest we got.
Speaker 5: He might have got closed Yeah he did, Yeah, he did,
Speaker 5: close up, I got what. You know, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: In twenty eighteen, we're still celebrating first first black shout
Speaker 1: out to.
Speaker 7: Beyonce and right, first black coach, first black did she's
Speaker 7: the first black black woman to yes to headline Coachella.
Speaker 8: No kidding, yeah, no kidding, wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but also the Vogue issue oh yeah, and her
Speaker 1: getting uh uh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 6: Chust Love, you didn't turn your phone down?
Speaker 5: Is my lawyer?
Speaker 1: Your doctor called you this morning called, so probably not
Speaker 1: a lawsuit, yeah, but basically, uh, Vogue just used uh,
Speaker 1: their first the first African American photographer for the cover.
Speaker 5: And it's one hundred n they did. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 5: one hundred and eight year history. I didn't even know
Speaker 5: that Vogue was around and yeah, yeah that long.
Speaker 6: That's why that Black issue.
Speaker 7: You know, there's an actual black issue of Vogue that
Speaker 7: came out like five ten, five years I.
Speaker 5: Think I remember, but that was the Italian exactly. Yo.
Speaker 1: It was funny because I thought that that's when I
Speaker 1: was heavy on my eBay join so I ordered, like
Speaker 1: Reek's wife to Reek's wife was like, yo, this is
Speaker 1: the most historical thing. It's from the eBay Golden So
Speaker 1: I purchased like twenty five issues of that of that thing,
Speaker 1: and now I can't find.
Speaker 5: Anyway. This is how we do the show. We don't
Speaker 5: even introduce the guest until happen. Oh yeah, I'm with it, so.
Speaker 1: Up, welcome to the show. Ig Story sneaker God, I
Speaker 1: gotta say, I mean, like, I know Clark Kent and
Speaker 1: New York knows that Clark Kent is the god of
Speaker 1: sneaker collecting, like he got me my job at Nike
Speaker 1: when I was working for Nike.
Speaker 5: That's how much of a sneaker god is.
Speaker 1: But I will say that I envy no one Ah
Speaker 1: and their sneaker collection more than you.
Speaker 5: Like you're a king stunt you.
Speaker 1: Okay, but when you when you you know, and I'm
Speaker 1: often at thirty rock watching you guys, like, do you
Speaker 1: often like choose your sneakers Like yeo, I'm a stunt
Speaker 1: on I'm a stunt on a hole tonight.
Speaker 5: I know. I never well, only I'll break out certain
Speaker 5: ones for certain people. I'm like, oh, this is gonna
Speaker 5: be a fun one. I can't wait, but like I don't.
Speaker 5: When I was a kid, it was never really the sneakers.
Speaker 5: It was always like just fresh sneakers. It was always
Speaker 5: about you, but they was fresh. They was like all right.
Speaker 5: So like for me, it was always I had to
Speaker 5: buy a lot because I had to keep them fresh.
Speaker 5: So I to keep them clean. I would just buy
Speaker 5: four or five pick Okay, that's what I was gonna ask.
Speaker 5: Because your jawings always look fresh out the box. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was that was always the growing up like that
Speaker 5: the thing. Your sneakers had to be freshn't I didn't care.
Speaker 5: Socks and draws, yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you describe you have one today, mister. Check what's
Speaker 6: going on here on your feet?
Speaker 5: These are and these are actually beaters. These are these
Speaker 5: are Concord elevens. But these is like I think the
Speaker 5: twenty eleven ones and these is like I probably will
Speaker 5: these like seven times. Nah, but these aren't even like
Speaker 5: I got some in the box. That's like never never
Speaker 5: had a factory. Yeah, yeah, factory. You can hear him
Speaker 5: snap when you walk, you hit a little the crack
Speaker 5: a little bit. J's don't hurt your feet, no, Jay's
Speaker 5: there's no, Jay, I found like they're comfortable slippers.
Speaker 8: Them, they're the most comfortable sneakers.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 5: I don't like is the like there's certain sneakers that
Speaker 5: now that they have like the sock kind of those
Speaker 5: hurt a little bit because it just feels like I'm
Speaker 5: walking on the floor like the Jay's the soul is
Speaker 5: so actually made for like I feel like I'm in shoes.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: The elevens are the ones that like the comfortable ones.
Speaker 5: I like the comfortable. The threes are the most comfortable.
Speaker 5: Fly with those because I could take them off and
Speaker 5: put them back on like they mad. I hate both,
Speaker 5: y'all right, man, Like I mean, is the only ones.
Speaker 1: I have an illustrious Jordan collection, but I can't wear
Speaker 1: them like absolutely.
Speaker 5: No, No, I just work for air.
Speaker 1: But the thing one the thing is is like I
Speaker 1: have to prepare me wearing rocking some Jordan's, which goes into.
Speaker 5: Shaving my corns off, oh ship.
Speaker 1: Feet, maybe sleeping upside down so the circulation goes down
Speaker 1: to my foot anything like with the exception of I
Speaker 1: told you about Tony Maiden the guitar roof. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: he just to fit some cowboy boots from Japan. He
Speaker 1: had his feet shaved, shaved with and length just so that.
Speaker 5: He could fit a pair of of Cowboy dues. Oh yeah, damn. Anyway, Michael,
Speaker 5: it's beautiful. Yeah, it's sneaky. Games on point bro. I
Speaker 5: always I always, love, always love fresh kicks.
Speaker 6: You're not wearing those under the desk though, Yeah you are,
Speaker 6: no matter why you're wearing the desk. I was like,
Speaker 6: when do we see your sneak unless it's like.
Speaker 5: At the end of the show. As I used to
Speaker 5: put my foot on the desk at the end of
Speaker 5: episodes and then people but I would put my foot
Speaker 5: on the desk just like as a move to put
Speaker 5: your foot on the desk, and people like, you're showing
Speaker 5: off your sneakers. Like, no, I just always wear ill
Speaker 5: sneakers so it looks like I'm showing them up. But
Speaker 5: I was literally just putting my foot on desk. So
Speaker 5: I stopped doing it because people thought I was showing
Speaker 5: up sneaker. They're like, what're you gonna wear next week?
Speaker 5: And I was like, that's not fun. And then I
Speaker 5: look like like a billboard, you know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's not Yeah.
Speaker 8: See, I'll be the last one too, Like you doing that?
Speaker 5: So are you? Are you a native New Yorker? Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm Lower East Side? You living there? Now? You were born? No,
Speaker 5: I was born. My whole family is from the same project.
Speaker 5: I'm like a legacy. Yeah, like we're from the project
Speaker 5: my grandparents? Wait, which which which one Smith projects? Like
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm new to New York. You don't you
Speaker 5: know right? Not giving your dress away? No, I don't
Speaker 5: have projects? Okay, okay, like what address the projects? Well,
Speaker 5: like what cross streets? This is a Catherine slip, like
Speaker 5: between Catherine and Madison is the whole project? My whole
Speaker 5: family is from like what they call the Dark Side.
Speaker 5: So that's twenty one age.
Speaker 1: Because I was saying when we shot what they do,
Speaker 1: we had to go to the projects to shoot a
Speaker 1: rooftop scene. And the first thing that I was thinking,
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, this is like the Hugs and
Speaker 1: Kisses project, Like yeah, it was old Grandmothers or whatever like,
Speaker 1: but it was a late nineties so I was expecting,
Speaker 1: Wait where was it.
Speaker 5: Lower like Lower Manhattan?
Speaker 8: And I remember there was a lot of projects.
Speaker 5: There was concern from the label the hell there was
Speaker 5: like man concern from the label and you know when
Speaker 5: we got there, they were like prepas, like okay, guys,
Speaker 5: make sure security, you know, because we thought we were
Speaker 5: going to the projects to shoot the scene.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when we got there, we were just like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, it's not project enough.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, there there's a project. We used to go
Speaker 5: to the like specifically for Halloween, and it was just
Speaker 5: all old people. You would go there and just yeah
Speaker 5: and nobody like visited them sadly, so they was like
Speaker 5: happier about Halloween, and we was when we was kids.
Speaker 5: We would go over there and we'd rack up. It
Speaker 5: was great. It was awesome. We're not from you're from
Speaker 5: projects in Philly. The Philly do projects. It's like roadhouses
Speaker 5: and yeah, roadhouses.
Speaker 1: Treek makes fun because my father we were the only
Speaker 1: house that never got broken into because my dad would
Speaker 1: put like security ride iron gates around our entire crib,
Speaker 1: so it looked like I lived in a prison. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we were the only house on the block
Speaker 1: with like three thousand records and all this recording equipment
Speaker 1: and drums and stuff.
Speaker 5: So my dad's like, nope, you know that makes sense.
Speaker 5: It was like Fort Knox, you know. So okay, So
Speaker 5: being born in Manhattan, Like what led you to entertainment?
Speaker 8: Uh, that's crazy. I mean it wasn't entertainment to me.
Speaker 5: It was specifically stand up comedy like I would watch
Speaker 5: Bring the Pain, I would watch Carlin's HBOS and Damon
Speaker 5: Wayne's HBO special, Like those are specific specials that stood
Speaker 5: out to me, like when I was a kid growing
Speaker 5: up and wanting to just do that. I just love
Speaker 5: the way you know what I mean? It was like
Speaker 5: it was every class clowns, Like what thirteen? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm thirty five, so that that's like like mid nineties. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so you the first das still standing that you first,
Speaker 5: the first Demi Wings I remember was when he had
Speaker 5: on the yellow shirt and the brown had I think
Speaker 5: that was HBO One Night Stand.
Speaker 8: I think I think it was like a half hour.
Speaker 5: That was a half hour. Thene family was like legendary
Speaker 5: because for one, they was from Lower Manhattan. They was
Speaker 5: from Chelsea Projects, I think, and then I remember like
Speaker 5: Hollywood Shuffle and I'm Gonna Get Your Sucker and Robert
Speaker 5: Towns and specials and all of that.
Speaker 8: So the Waynes was like already it was like Eddie Murphy.
Speaker 5: And then Damie Wayne's like right under. You know, Okay,
Speaker 5: I gotta know, I'm the youngest by the way of seven,
Speaker 5: so we was getting Yeah, I was getting all of
Speaker 5: that stuff immediately, you know what I mean. I was
Speaker 5: in the house. I was in the house full of teenagers,
Speaker 5: so all that stuff. Yeah, Like I don't remember the
Speaker 5: first time I heard hip hop. Like there stories of
Speaker 5: me as a baby, sinking a lot of dotty and
Speaker 5: all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, it's like that usually usually the baby of
Speaker 1: the family of a large family, you know, it's probably
Speaker 1: I was the business of being sucked it all right.
Speaker 5: No, I was asking, like, do a lot of those
Speaker 5: specials age well, because I try not watch nothing ages well.
Speaker 5: In twenty eighteen, like half the ship that we laughed
Speaker 5: at in the nineties would get fucking I mean, Nigga's
Speaker 5: writing petitions on Twitter and shit absolutely carling stuff from
Speaker 5: the nineties ages very well.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it depends on the comedian, right, because like, Mom's
Speaker 7: mainly I was listening to her as a kid, but
Speaker 7: that was like what thirty forty years ago by the
Speaker 7: time you.
Speaker 6: Listen to those tapes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Mom's mainly. Yeah, Colin Wasca, this was kind
Speaker 5: of more like commentary, Like it was more social commentary,
Speaker 5: like yeah, Eddie Murray, like the first yeah raw is
Speaker 5: like nigga, like first first ten minutes that I was
Speaker 5: like thirty, right, I was something.
Speaker 1: I was thirty something when I first watched Deliric, yeah, like,
Speaker 1: because you know, I grew up in ain't no Eddie
Speaker 1: Murphy in this house, so I didn't get to see
Speaker 1: none of that stuff growing up.
Speaker 5: And then finally on a tour of bus, you know,
Speaker 5: they showed Delirious and.
Speaker 1: It was weird because I wanted, you know, Delirious is
Speaker 1: in the mount rushmore than everyone's comedy.
Speaker 5: But it didn't hit me that way one because not
Speaker 5: like a illmatic right, and you're like, how right? But
Speaker 5: I get it.
Speaker 1: But the thing was, because that was my introduction to Delirious.
Speaker 1: Was everyone else doing Delirious, so I knew.
Speaker 5: And very funny.
Speaker 1: I knew all that based on classroom kids doing it
Speaker 1: and rappers sampling it and all that stuff. So but
Speaker 1: when I finally watched it, it's funny you say that
Speaker 1: because I know, you know the same way that who
Speaker 1: was indifferent to Midnight Marauders? Uh like Loupe or whatever,
Speaker 1: Like I'm probably that ways I respect delirious and know
Speaker 1: where it stands historically.
Speaker 5: Oh, I get it. I was like I was like
Speaker 5: that for prior, Like I didn't really get a lot
Speaker 5: of people are like that. I was like, like live
Speaker 5: in the sensens trip. I was like, okay, but to me,
Speaker 5: he was funniest in movies, so like, which way is
Speaker 5: up is? My ship? Was funny Because critics pan off
Speaker 5: his movie, I think with Richard Pryory was copied so much,
Speaker 5: and Eddie Murphy is true too, They've been copied so
Speaker 5: much that it's kind of hard to understand the context
Speaker 5: of when he was doing it. He was the only
Speaker 5: guy doing Yeah, how revolutionary was so it's kind of
Speaker 5: hard to understand that if you're not there watching it.
Speaker 5: Because I used to say the same thing. I was like,
Speaker 5: I don't really understand why Richard Pryor it's so much better,
Speaker 5: greater than everybody. Herald, that's so much greater. And then
Speaker 5: I started kind of learning more about comedy and learn
Speaker 5: more about who else was happening at the time. You're like, oh, okay,
Speaker 5: next to those guys, he must have looked like a Martian,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like he was like the
Speaker 5: idea of you know, him doing the wining on the
Speaker 5: junkie and like street characters like you know, Dick Dick
Speaker 5: Gregory really wasn't doing that in his comedy Noo was
Speaker 5: more yeah exactly. So, Yeah, Red Fox was set up
Speaker 5: punch a lot of a lot of like actual jokes,
Speaker 5: you know, joke yeah, joke jokes. Richard Pryor. That was like,
Speaker 5: I mean, this is he's in the Chitlin circuit in
Speaker 5: early nineteen seventy black you know what I mean, clubs
Speaker 5: talking about the first time he ever blew a dude,
Speaker 5: and it's working, like you it'd be hard to do
Speaker 5: that in a black man now, and he's got people laughing,
Speaker 5: and it's like the kind of thing that he was
Speaker 5: doing was insane when you think about the context.
Speaker 1: You know that Cosby actually released two Blue Humor records
Speaker 1: that people don't know about.
Speaker 5: What Yeah, there's one joint and came out on laugh
Speaker 5: or some ship like one the one people who don't
Speaker 5: oh Blue Humor is like dirty like Curson, like yeah,
Speaker 5: fussing cussin. Yeah.
Speaker 1: In seventy four, there was like a I mean, he
Speaker 1: didn't get that deep into it, but the other one
Speaker 1: in eighty eighty one he spoke at uh. It was
Speaker 1: more like him speaking at some prison in Pennsylvania. And
Speaker 1: it wasn't comedy per se. But they made the record
Speaker 1: cover it looked like it was like Bill.
Speaker 5: Cosby and hard always hard hitted boys. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: let me get this record, and then there was just
Speaker 5: like him him being real, like you know that sort
Speaker 5: of thing like that whoop. I saw his last special
Speaker 5: that never came out Netflix won or yeah, I think
Speaker 5: it was Netflix. It was. I think it was called
Speaker 5: Cosby seventy seven.
Speaker 6: When he's coming at us, like coming at us.
Speaker 8: No, it's actually he's actually not.
Speaker 5: It's well what I saw he did like two hours
Speaker 5: of I guess what was going to be a ninety
Speaker 5: minute special or whatever, and it was Robert Townsend was
Speaker 5: directing it, and they did it at I was doing
Speaker 5: shows in San Francisco, and it was like there was
Speaker 5: an early tape and like a six o'clock tape, and
Speaker 5: I watched it and went and did my show, and
Speaker 5: it was it was like good. It was. It was
Speaker 5: kind of loose, It wasn't you could tell like he
Speaker 5: was still trying stuff for whatever.
Speaker 8: Oddly but it's like a month after that everything happened.
Speaker 5: He was talking a lot. It was weird because he
Speaker 5: was talking a lot about like like growing up, like
Speaker 5: his first experiences dating. Yeah, it was kind of it
Speaker 5: was like blueish. It wasn't blue, but it was like
Speaker 5: blue for Cosby. It was like it was like an
Speaker 5: old man. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: let it loose a little bit.
Speaker 6: But it was.
Speaker 8: It was good though. It was like kind of like excited,
Speaker 8: you know, I was kind of excited to see.
Speaker 5: What I was. I was interested. I mean, you know,
Speaker 5: obviously everything that happened to understood why, but I was
Speaker 5: always curious to see that special when it came out,
Speaker 5: because how many seventy seven year old comedians.
Speaker 8: Yeah you don't get that perspective.
Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it ain't the same. Well
Speaker 5: you can still see him, uh he he's still just
Speaker 5: kind of popping up. Also, I heard he was doing
Speaker 5: course this jazz club in Philly a lot Cosby. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's not I guess the people that own the old bar. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's they have one join that's kind of uh not
Speaker 5: Balla Kinwood. But he's in the bird.
Speaker 8: They showed a video of him like recently, like at
Speaker 8: that spot or whatever.
Speaker 6: After everything came down a couple of months ago.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just he was just out there and
Speaker 5: he just yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 8: Was doing Hicky Bird.
Speaker 5: I think crazy.
Speaker 8: That's the only safe cutty guy, it really is.
Speaker 1: So what were your first steps into taking your comedy series,
Speaker 1: Like one too many trips at the principal's office or.
Speaker 5: Like, no, none of that. I was I got it late.
Speaker 5: I was like I always wanted to try it. I
Speaker 5: always always wanted to try it. Was like they had
Speaker 5: like comedy classes. The thing about stand up is if
Speaker 5: you don't know any comedians, it might as well be
Speaker 5: on the moon because you don't have no idea how
Speaker 5: to do it. So I would just google like how
Speaker 5: to do it and find like different open mics or whatever,
Speaker 5: and it's just literally five dollars, half a pint of
Speaker 5: E and J and you just go up there. Like
Speaker 5: that was literally how it happened. I went to an
Speaker 5: open mic right right down the block from the cellar
Speaker 5: on McDougal Street, and I scouted it out one day
Speaker 5: just to watch, and there was like one dude that
Speaker 5: was really good, and everybody else was terrible, And I
Speaker 5: was like, if they're terrible and still doing it, then
Speaker 5: I could be that terrible, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like I could just be that bad and try it.
Speaker 8: Took the pressure off.
Speaker 5: You don't have to be good at it, you know,
Speaker 5: because every time somebody wants to start coming always like
Speaker 5: I don't got no jokes though, Like, yeah, nobody has
Speaker 5: jokes when you start.
Speaker 8: That's the whole point. There's no joke.
Speaker 5: You're gonna start with that you're gonna end with, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, it's all gonna you're gonna outgrow
Speaker 5: all of that ship. So it doesn't really matter. Just
Speaker 5: being on stage is what's important. So going there and
Speaker 5: just doing it. I couldn't tell you what I said,
Speaker 5: but just being on stage and seeing that perspective of
Speaker 5: hearing your voice in the micro I never heard my
Speaker 5: voice in a microphone before. Like even that was freaky.
Speaker 6: And you did it with no nerves.
Speaker 5: Of course, you remember something that's just we call it,
Speaker 5: he's got jerk, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. So you went there
Speaker 5: without a formula, nothing. I went up there with like
Speaker 5: four things that I thought were funny that that would
Speaker 5: make my friends in the car crack up. That wouldn't
Speaker 5: make anybody else it's outside that car crack up like
Speaker 5: literally nothing. I just wanted to be any Like you
Speaker 5: talk about material you outgrown. Do you remember, I think
Speaker 5: like one of the first jokes I had, oh man,
Speaker 5: I think maybe one of the first jokes I had,
Speaker 5: I might have even said it that night was something
Speaker 5: about how because it was I remember, was like October,
Speaker 5: it was like the fall, and I was saying, how
Speaker 5: like Jehovah's witnesses don't they don't celebrate Halloween even though
Speaker 5: they should because that's the one.
Speaker 8: Time people open the door. But it was like like that,
Speaker 8: you know, like kind of like a haha, you know,
Speaker 8: like one of those.
Speaker 5: But that's all you need. Just as long as you're
Speaker 5: comfortable on stage, everything comes, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like even now you might go on stage with nothing
Speaker 5: and find something.
Speaker 1: You know, So with that first laugh, was it like
Speaker 1: uh a crack high like a yeah, like your first
Speaker 1: real good laugh.
Speaker 8: The first real good laugh.
Speaker 5: Well, you start out only doing open mics, and open
Speaker 5: mics in the city is it's not regular people there,
Speaker 5: it's all other people waiting to go on. So a
Speaker 5: lot of the laughs are like, ah, you know, they're
Speaker 5: right back in their book or whatever. Nobody's really there
Speaker 5: to support people, you know. So the first actual show
Speaker 5: I did was what they called a bringer show. That
Speaker 5: means you bring five people and then you can perform.
Speaker 5: So you had to pass out flyers in the corner. No,
Speaker 5: you could just get anybody. You can get five friends,
Speaker 5: you can get however you want. That's a barker show. Barker. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's a wait's barking, now it's barking. You watched you crashing?
Speaker 5: I got, not that I got suckered, but I watched
Speaker 5: crashing and then leaving uh, I forgot who did a
Speaker 5: set at uh Carolines.
Speaker 1: I was leaving Carolines and then I saw the guy
Speaker 1: on the corner and I thought of crashing right, And
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, all right, let me make
Speaker 1: it rain, And I said, dude, and I brought five
Speaker 1: hundred dollars worth of tickets.
Speaker 5: Whoa right? Just you know, I just made his night right,
Speaker 5: And he couldn't believe it. And then I was like
Speaker 5: he and he tried to talk himself out of it,
Speaker 5: like no, no, no, tickets, just give me, Like tickets
Speaker 5: are only twenty dollars. That's all.
Speaker 1: I said, dude, give me five hundred dollars worth of tickets.
Speaker 1: And he couldn't understand it. And I was like, I
Speaker 1: watched Crashing, and I understand that this is how that's.
Speaker 8: Actually a terrible, terrible thing you did.
Speaker 5: You know what, because now somebody's gonna be like, yeah,
Speaker 5: we sold out, and nobody's gonna be a sh.
Speaker 8: That's an awful idea.
Speaker 5: No, So what what I was saying is how you
Speaker 5: never had to go that route. No, I never. I
Speaker 5: never did barking. I never did barking. I mean you
Speaker 5: barked like your own show. Like if you like everybody
Speaker 5: has kind of like a bar show or whatever, that's
Speaker 5: kind of your penance of coming up in comedy, like
Speaker 5: you do my show, do your show kind of thing,
Speaker 5: So everybody kind of has like a bar show. And
Speaker 5: then if your if your show's light, you might go
Speaker 5: outside and be like, hey we got a comedy show.
Speaker 5: Hey guys come back, coming back with guys, conversa on
Speaker 5: the back or whatever. But it was never like four tickets.
Speaker 5: It was always usually like a free show. It was
Speaker 5: just like a thing like I just didn't want.
Speaker 6: To do you know so what you said you watched
Speaker 6: Frashion too though, right, did you watch the show?
Speaker 8: I've seen somebody. I don't really. I watch Food Network
Speaker 8: and Sports Center, Like that's literally.
Speaker 5: I know what it is.
Speaker 6: But I just.
Speaker 5: I think that once now that you're part of the conversation,
Speaker 5: I know what I know how it's made, and I'm
Speaker 5: just like, I can't watch it the way like a
Speaker 5: regular person can watch. This is why I cannot entertained.
Speaker 1: This is why I feel like I have imposter syndrome,
Speaker 1: because I feel like people that are really making history
Speaker 1: don't watch history.
Speaker 5: They just make it. Yeah, they make it. And meanwhile,
Speaker 5: I'm like, episode twelve, let's keep that right exactly, well, like,
Speaker 5: can you watch? Can you watch other late night shows? Dude?
Speaker 1: I obsessively like to prepare for that job. Yes, I watch, really,
Speaker 1: I watch in the mornings.
Speaker 5: I watch. I watched Conan.
Speaker 1: I watch everything to see what they're doing, what their
Speaker 1: bumpers are like with their walk on the songs. So
Speaker 1: if no other reason you know what not to do,
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, and then like the guests are on
Speaker 1: the show, like I'm watching their entire series to see
Speaker 1: if I can get something on the character that I
Speaker 1: want saying, like my crack high was who was on
Speaker 1: Chappelle the asker gay dude, uh.
Speaker 8: Mario Mario Canton steam Pipe Valley.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 1: So I did a steam pipe and he almost stopped
Speaker 1: the show in tears, like, how do you know about
Speaker 1: like we picked this obscure song from.
Speaker 8: I would have picked that up easy.
Speaker 5: That's a good one. Steam Pipe Valley used to come
Speaker 5: on every like what was like Saturday. It was like
Speaker 5: they would play Looney Tunes. It was like this one
Speaker 5: man sketch show and it was all for kids, and
Speaker 5: they played Looney Tune in between them. So like, if
Speaker 5: you wanted to watch Bugs Bunny, you watch steam Pipe Ali.
Speaker 5: It's going on like Channel nine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is Mario Canton.
Speaker 1: Once that like and all this is the Jimmy sagrin
Speaker 1: because it's basically like, hey, guys, just play the three
Speaker 1: second song and let my guests.
Speaker 5: But then once like the root managed to distract the
Speaker 5: guests like how did they know that? Oh my god,
Speaker 5: and he wanted to talk about it ruined the interview
Speaker 5: and then well no, no, no, I'm just saying At
Speaker 5: that point, then I was like, oh ship. Then I'm
Speaker 5: watching every show on time and now I have an
Speaker 5: addiction like I have that is the ill That is
Speaker 5: the illest thing I gotta say, like that, that is
Speaker 5: like a really cool thing, like what are the roots
Speaker 5: going to bring everybody out to? It's kind of a cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool, but then it's like some people come on
Speaker 1: the show like with their Matt like Cosby used to
Speaker 1: do that, like I only got like a good my
Speaker 1: own like jamming on the one reference because then Cosby
Speaker 1: was like, like, Okay, well this is why I want
Speaker 1: to walk out too, and I'm like, no.
Speaker 5: Let me surprise you. Uh. Steve Martin also, but Steve
Speaker 5: Martin's are funny.
Speaker 6: Because oh he's requests. He makes special requests.
Speaker 5: Steve loved the idea of what we did to Michelle Blackman,
Speaker 5: Oh my god, right, what we did to her that.
Speaker 5: Then he was like, then he.
Speaker 1: Would orchestra, but then it like backfire for us because
Speaker 1: then we would have to come in early to rehearse
Speaker 1: his walk on. Like one time he introduced lady No,
Speaker 1: I'm Steve Martin, and Steve Martin came out. He was
Speaker 1: on the Letterman set like no, and then he was
Speaker 1: on the view set no, and then he was on
Speaker 1: Conean set like it was this whole elaborate four minute
Speaker 1: walk on thing, and then Will Smith and you know,
Speaker 1: so it's just like sometimes it.
Speaker 6: Backfires, wait to go back to the source of his
Speaker 6: rabbit hole.
Speaker 7: Are you saying that you can't watch any entertainment or
Speaker 7: is comedy even harder to watch?
Speaker 5: I'm saying comedy. Comedy is hard to watch, and like
Speaker 5: comedy in particular, it is hard to watch. But I
Speaker 5: don't really there's no like shows that I really I watched,
Speaker 5: like Detroiters that like, is that good?
Speaker 1: I love it because the ratings are like out of
Speaker 1: this world and I want to commit, But again I
Speaker 1: love It's that which list I think.
Speaker 5: I think it's Jason getting from a beep. Sam Richardson
Speaker 5: and Robins, yeah, well and Steve Tim Robinson was like
Speaker 5: my officemate at SNL. Tim and Zach who are the
Speaker 5: who are the co creators of the show, and so
Speaker 5: like I remember them working on it. I wrote an
Speaker 5: episode last season and and it's just like their humor
Speaker 5: is just the crazy. We used to write the craziest,
Speaker 5: craziesth it together on SNL that would never get on
Speaker 5: and then we would just have so we would just
Speaker 5: bug out all the time.
Speaker 7: So when don't we talk about matriculating from going on
Speaker 7: stage with some I and J and just winging it
Speaker 7: to becoming a writer, because that's I got.
Speaker 5: The craziest how I got on SNL story I think
Speaker 5: that I've heard so far. Literally wait, we didn't even
Speaker 5: get to the Daily Show that.
Speaker 8: I was a writer on SNL. Before I was at
Speaker 8: the Daily Show.
Speaker 5: Order, oh shit, all right, go ahead continue. I was
Speaker 5: doing stand up maybe you know if he is in
Speaker 5: and I saw Colin Joe's at the Ditton Factory Hannibal's
Speaker 5: show in Brooklyn, and we both did a set or whatever,
Speaker 5: and he was like, man, you know you're funny whatever,
Speaker 5: and we were like we would see each other around,
Speaker 5: but like he was he like got to like really
Speaker 5: watch me.
Speaker 8: Next day he hit me up like, hey, you.
Speaker 5: Want I shouldn't say this is going to like discourage
Speaker 5: people from ever going through the process, but he messaged
Speaker 5: me where he was head writer at the time at SNL,
Speaker 5: and he was like, Yo, if you ever want to
Speaker 5: you know, if you have like a packet or something,
Speaker 5: I would love to submit your packet to SNL, Like
Speaker 5: you know, if you write sketches. And I'd never written
Speaker 5: sketch before, so I was like all right, yeah, sure,
Speaker 5: I'll do it. And I was like, I ain't fucking writing.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have me write a packet for some shit
Speaker 5: that's gonna be bad, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 5: don't know how to do that. And he would periodically
Speaker 5: hit me up, like every three or four weeks like yo,
Speaker 5: you got to you got the package, Like, oh, I'm
Speaker 5: still working on it, but yeah, I'm gonna send it
Speaker 5: to you. And then it was like the week of
Speaker 5: the show where he's like, we just want to come
Speaker 5: in as a guest writer. And I was like, all right,
Speaker 5: I came in as a guest writer. And it was
Speaker 5: two week contract. Literally they throw you in the fire,
Speaker 5: so like you get there Monday, so that's another production week.
Speaker 5: There's no orientation. You just show up to the show
Speaker 5: and you're like, all right, you work here, get to work.
Speaker 5: You're responsible to sketches or whatever. And everybody's there was
Speaker 5: This was like Fred and Bill and Jason was still there.
Speaker 5: Seth was still head writer with with Colin, so it
Speaker 5: was like intimidating as fuck. I think Andy and Christen
Speaker 5: had just left like a few months.
Speaker 6: Before, and no limitations.
Speaker 5: They just right there. Yeah. They was like, so the
Speaker 5: first thing you gotta do is you got to go
Speaker 5: into Lawn's office and do the pitch meeting, which I'm
Speaker 5: sure you know about. You literally the entire cast and
Speaker 5: writing staff in Lawn's office with the host and Kevin
Speaker 5: Harts in Lawn's office seventeen with the host. Oh my god,
Speaker 5: it is Kevin is Kevin Hart porn and everything. Don't
Speaker 5: touch the popcorn at that point. Don't touch the po
Speaker 5: It's behind him. So in order to touch the popcorn,
Speaker 5: you gotta walk to like up to his chair. And
Speaker 5: that's a power move, right. He finally thumbs thumbs us
Speaker 5: up once I brought him too big ass.
Speaker 8: Yeah, back.
Speaker 7: Office, right, Like, y'all know, y'all know, we don't know
Speaker 7: what you're talking about. Right, I'm just saying, everybody who listening,
Speaker 7: tell y'all.
Speaker 5: Inside loves pop. If you walk in, you just you
Speaker 5: hear all over the floor. So we're all in there
Speaker 5: when everybody's giving sketch ideas. Everybody's telling me this is
Speaker 5: like comedy pros, And I'm like, what the fuck am
Speaker 5: I doing? So my I had to pitch a sketch
Speaker 5: and I got a laugh from it, and I think
Speaker 5: after that they was like, my sketch was I probably
Speaker 5: told you, but uh it was Kevin Hart playing the
Speaker 5: richest black man in New York, Dwayne Reid, and I
Speaker 5: always tell that joke. But and everybody laughed and they
Speaker 5: were like okay. Lauren was like okay. And then my
Speaker 5: first they asked me to write that sketch. It bombed
Speaker 5: terribly at the table, but I didn't know what I
Speaker 5: was doing. So then the next week was justin Timberlake,
Speaker 5: and then I got a sketch on and then it
Speaker 5: was like fun and which one was.
Speaker 8: A sketch? You could never do that? That was close
Speaker 8: She's Got a Dick, and it was She's Got a Dick.
Speaker 5: It was a romantic comedy trailer about this lady that
Speaker 5: had everything, but she also had a dick who played woman.
Speaker 5: It was it was justin in the scene. Okay, it
Speaker 5: was justin in the scene. So when you say so,
Speaker 5: when you say it skip bombed at the table, what
Speaker 5: what's the I guess the chain of command? What's the process?
Speaker 5: You pitch it in the meeting in law's office and
Speaker 5: then what well, I didn't know this, but typically people
Speaker 5: who when you do pitch, now I know this. When
Speaker 5: you pitch, typically people don't say what they're going to write.
Speaker 5: They're usually just saying like a one liner that's going
Speaker 5: to make everybody lie. It's really a meeting to make
Speaker 5: the host feel comfortable, you know, like you're not you're
Speaker 5: not really pitching your ideas.
Speaker 8: Sometimes people do.
Speaker 5: Like there's times where you can pitch something people are like, hey,
Speaker 5: that's funny, actually can you do that? And then you
Speaker 5: write it and then like that's happened to me a
Speaker 5: couple of times, or you know, like I've recommended or
Speaker 5: whatever the sketch that that was like super popular. Farewell
Speaker 5: mister Bunting. You remember that one where like Pete stands
Speaker 5: up and his head gets chopped off on the ceiling fan.
Speaker 5: It's like that was a pitch. That was a pitch
Speaker 5: that Colin I think mikey Day pitched it and Colin
Speaker 5: was like, hey, you should like we could write that,
Speaker 5: and they wrote it together and made it happen.
Speaker 8: But it was almost he was almost like it was
Speaker 8: like a throwaway.
Speaker 1: I was literally going to ask you, like the reason
Speaker 1: why you see me there obsessively every week in the show,
Speaker 1: isn't I mean, yes, I want to laugh and I
Speaker 1: enjoy the experience. But my conversation with Higgins always the
Speaker 1: next day is what was the pitch like?
Speaker 5: And then when you got I said, when I went
Speaker 5: to him after that that bit, I said, did someone
Speaker 5: just say, okay, we're going to do it? Not good
Speaker 5: well hunting? What's the thing where I my soy? Yeah? Like,
Speaker 5: did someone just.
Speaker 1: Say okay, it's a dead post society sketch? But then
Speaker 1: when Pete stands on the table, he's going to get beheaded?
Speaker 8: Like how do you literally pretty much that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, But the thing is like a lot of the
Speaker 1: physical comedy or the or the one bit where somebody
Speaker 1: was a poster or something that involves physical comedy, It's like,
Speaker 1: how do you articulate that that's going to be the
Speaker 1: funny part if?
Speaker 5: And how does that work in the room that actually
Speaker 5: gets you too. That's where the show gets tricky because
Speaker 5: there's a lot of things that make a table full
Speaker 5: of comedy writers laugh that doesn't make America laugh. And
Speaker 5: there's a lot of stuff that doesn't make us laugh
Speaker 5: that becomes a massive hit or whatever. So I think
Speaker 5: that's that's kind of like when Lauren and Higgins and
Speaker 5: and Ken word like, that's kind of when they're saying,
Speaker 5: you know what, I think this will look good on tape,
Speaker 5: even though it doesn't play hot at the table, I
Speaker 5: think this will work. I think this will be really
Speaker 5: good for the show. So there's a lot of I
Speaker 5: remember that. Yeah, well, I think we all knew that
Speaker 5: it would be funny. But it's when you're reading, because
Speaker 5: it's everybody's reading their part, and then Lauren is reading
Speaker 5: the stage direction. We're not really acting. Now he reads
Speaker 5: every stage director.
Speaker 6: So can I ask a crazy question?
Speaker 7: You're throwing out names and I just googled one because
Speaker 7: I had to figure out who Higgins was. Okay, it's
Speaker 7: Steve Higgins. Okay, this is the guy who is actually
Speaker 7: on the Tonight Show. But he also is like a writer.
Speaker 5: Higgins is like he runs yeah, different fat and he's
Speaker 5: just like that's his DJ gig, right, but you know
Speaker 5: his roots gig is SNL Yes, yes, legendary writer for
Speaker 5: the show. And now he's a producer and he works
Speaker 5: pretty hands on on the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: See, well that's the thing because usually, like you know,
Speaker 1: commercial breaks when like Lauren is just in the middle
Speaker 1: of the floor, like in the camera.
Speaker 5: Shot photo opp right, part of me is wondering, like, okay,
Speaker 5: are you again? Are you Ronald McDonald? Are you a crop?
Speaker 5: Like are you really making the decisions? So he actually
Speaker 5: reads the Oh no, Lauren makes the like Lauren is
Speaker 5: the guy. He's very he's extremely hands up. We all
Speaker 5: go in his office and we talked things through and
Speaker 5: he has the board and he gives He's very, very
Speaker 5: very instrumental in get I never knew that. I just start.
Speaker 5: Sometimes he comes up with the cold open sometimes like
Speaker 5: we'll be you know, like we won't have a cold open.
Speaker 5: We've been writing our cold opens much much later in
Speaker 5: the week because of the news, because of the news
Speaker 5: cycle has just been insane. We've been we've had to
Speaker 5: like rewrite cold over and rewrite updates on Thursday and
Speaker 5: Friday sometimes like just because of the news, Like the
Speaker 5: country is completely different between Wednesday and Friday, like completely different.
Speaker 5: So you know, he'll be like, I feel like maybe
Speaker 5: we should do something like this or whatever, and then
Speaker 5: he kind of like orders it up. A lot of times,
Speaker 5: you know, oh good, Oh so what is the production schedule.
Speaker 5: So so Monday we meet the host and it's kind
Speaker 5: of a light day. You could start writing, but you
Speaker 5: really don't have to. But it's really writers meeting and
Speaker 5: then host meeting, and then Tuesday we come in for writing.
Speaker 5: Then you just write all day Tuesday. Sometimes I get
Speaker 5: in usually around three four pm, and then I'll maybe
Speaker 5: leave at about seven eight am and then go home,
Speaker 5: take a nap, take a shower, then go to table read,
Speaker 5: which is usually around three pm.
Speaker 8: On Wednesday. We read up until about eight o'clock and.
Speaker 5: Table readers, you guys, table read, we read about forty
Speaker 5: anywhere between thirty five and forty of the sketches you
Speaker 5: wrote on Tuesday that we all wrote on Tuesday, and
Speaker 5: then we picked maybe eleven to produce. We rewrite it Thursday.
Speaker 5: We do our pre tapes Friday and our blocking Friday,
Speaker 5: and then Saturday run through dress rehearsal air. Do you
Speaker 5: Between dress rehearsal and air, we usually cut two to
Speaker 5: three sketches cut meaning meaning it together.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's like a two hour show.
Speaker 5: We go in with about two hours and then we
Speaker 5: leave what about ninety minutes for live, and sometimes we're
Speaker 5: cutting shit on air.
Speaker 8: Sometimes we're rewriting shit on there.
Speaker 5: There's times where like the show is on and you're
Speaker 5: in your dressing room and you think your day's open,
Speaker 5: your sketch is next, and they're like, hey, they need
Speaker 5: you in a control room and you're literally in the
Speaker 5: script department cutting out sketches, cutting out lines of a sketch.
Speaker 5: So if you ever like watching the show and at
Speaker 5: the end you're like, well that ended weird because we
Speaker 5: had to shave forty five seconds out of a three
Speaker 5: minute sketch, which happens a lot. Yeah, and if if
Speaker 5: well that's how I first met you. I learned the processes.
Speaker 1: If you're one of the bits that gets cut, if
Speaker 1: you're newbie, you might take a little personal you might
Speaker 1: take a little personal Pam pizza.
Speaker 5: So then you go up to seventeen and then you
Speaker 5: get ship face drunk if you just been.
Speaker 7: Yep, Because does everybody every week at least get in
Speaker 7: a get in a segment, like everybody.
Speaker 5: Hannibal said, no, no, not Hannible, what's his name said?
Speaker 5: He never got his? I think I think Hannibal got
Speaker 5: like one or two. But yeah, some it's it's for
Speaker 5: some writers you never see it's been a little bit. Well,
Speaker 5: you got to think when they were writing, they had
Speaker 5: like I mean it was like, yeah, they you had
Speaker 5: like Kristen wigg and only people on the show that
Speaker 5: that's like half the show right there. I didn't write anything.
Speaker 8: She was in real Estate gets a lot smaller, you know,
Speaker 8: so like you.
Speaker 5: Know, Larry David said he none of his bits ever
Speaker 5: got on. Yeah, Larry David, Sarah Silverman, I've heard that
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 6: And to work there for years.
Speaker 8: I think Sarah was only there for like a year
Speaker 8: or two. I don't think she was there.
Speaker 6: Well, so is it an official?
Speaker 7: Is there really an official like s n L Frattorney, Like,
Speaker 7: was there a moment when you felt like, yes, I'm
Speaker 7: officially in this special collective and I can go talk
Speaker 7: to Bill Murray at anytime?
Speaker 5: And No, it's really you never feel that because it's you.
Speaker 5: You just get comfortable. It's like anything else. It's like
Speaker 5: you really it just it ends up being like holy ship,
Speaker 5: that's Bill Murray to Bill Murray's here. It becomes like
Speaker 5: just that, Yeah, we see them all the time. And
Speaker 5: I think that's kind of the crazy thing. Like we're
Speaker 5: probably the only show where people are more nervous than
Speaker 5: we are, yeah, to be on than we are to
Speaker 5: have them on.
Speaker 7: Not even the nervous part, just a camaraderie of knowing that. Okay,
Speaker 7: So if Chevvy chasees me on the street, he's going
Speaker 7: to say something because we are in this fraternity, like.
Speaker 5: Or maybe he won't. Maybe he won't.
Speaker 6: I should have went fast basketball.
Speaker 5: I don't know. Okay, when when someone you haven't worked
Speaker 5: with from the show knows who you are, it's a
Speaker 5: very strange experience, Like you're like, what I saw John
Speaker 5: Love It's I've never seen him outside of the show
Speaker 5: before this, and I saw him in l A one
Speaker 5: time and he was like nice to me and I
Speaker 5: was like, John Love It. It was like it blew
Speaker 5: my mind becau. John Loves was like my favorite guy favorite.
Speaker 5: He was, Oh my god, I love John Love this.
Speaker 5: He was so funny.
Speaker 1: So okay, with the host that come on the show,
Speaker 1: do you I feel like there's three types of posts.
Speaker 5: So if.
Speaker 1: Say, someone that's eager and easy to work with, I
Speaker 1: would assume that Hanks is that guy that's like really
Speaker 1: about making the most of a moment hosting ESNL.
Speaker 5: He's a dream come true. Yes, I'm sure that timber
Speaker 5: Lake is also that way, very eager to you know,
Speaker 5: can do anything, do what I gotta do to make
Speaker 5: sure this is a classic episode. If it's funny, He's
Speaker 5: with it. But then.
Speaker 1: You know, you guys might get a wild card like
Speaker 1: were you there during the Trump yeah, hosting, Yeah, of
Speaker 1: which I'm sure that was a little crazy.
Speaker 5: Well, it wasn't. To me. It wasn't that crazy because
Speaker 5: I didn't expect him to win until like a year
Speaker 5: after that. Like at that time, it still kind of
Speaker 5: felt like it was still a little bit of a joke.
Speaker 5: It wasn't as kind of like you know, it wasn't like.
Speaker 1: Not even not even the process of like will he
Speaker 1: be president? I'm just talking about like a good host
Speaker 1: for the show, deliverying that sort of thing.
Speaker 5: A good host for me is a little bit different
Speaker 5: like somebody like a comedian. When a stand up is hosting,
Speaker 5: it's usually not fun for me, really, yes, because they
Speaker 5: bringing their own team. Because not only they bringing their
Speaker 5: own team, but stand ups and like comedians wroke, like
Speaker 5: they know why they're funny, they're not. They trust themselves
Speaker 5: way more than they trust the writings, you know, and
Speaker 5: they know they got one shot at this and they
Speaker 5: don't want a bomb, so they're like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: They're on the fence about everything. They're not shut about
Speaker 5: anything until they hear to laugh and they'll say, all right,
Speaker 5: we can, we can do this. That was gonna I love.
Speaker 8: My favorite is like a like a Blake Shelton.
Speaker 5: That's just like, man, just you unexpected. I don't care.
Speaker 5: Just just write it. I'll read it. If it works.
Speaker 5: It works.
Speaker 8: That's a dream scenario.
Speaker 5: What was Chappelle like?
Speaker 8: What was his Chappelle was?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 8: First of was Chappelle is not only is he a genius,
Speaker 8: but he's a perfectionist.
Speaker 5: And also this week was like the craziest week because
Speaker 5: Trump had won. So literally Tuesday you felt one way
Speaker 5: and the country was completely different by Wednesday, Like I
Speaker 5: never other than nine to eleven, I don't remember a
Speaker 5: more drastic change and tone after a day. So to
Speaker 5: write comp we mind, we write the show Tuesday, so
Speaker 5: we have to write a sketch, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: You gotta imagine writing like the Poop Family sketch and
Speaker 5: you're watching the country literally fall apart, and you're like,
Speaker 5: all right, what does he say? Next, you know, it's
Speaker 5: nothing that seems important at that time. So by Wednesday,
Speaker 5: table read all those sketches in rough shape because everyone
Speaker 5: was so distracted and nobody really had anything good. But
Speaker 5: Neil Brennan helped a lot, and Chappelle of course got
Speaker 5: his hands on stuff, and Brian Tucker did a lot
Speaker 5: of work to bring everything up. We all you know,
Speaker 5: pitched in to bring everything up h to get the
Speaker 5: show ready by Saturday. But that was like a really
Speaker 5: weird week. So it's hard for me to really say
Speaker 5: what Dave was like because it was such a bizarre circumstances.
Speaker 5: So the whole sometimes will help with sketches, of course.
Speaker 5: I mean if they yeah, they know what they're doing,
Speaker 5: they'll yeah. I mean they got to say it. We
Speaker 5: do the show for them and they and they ultimately
Speaker 5: get to pick. Like when we picked the sketches that
Speaker 5: go on the show, it's the head writers and the
Speaker 5: producers and uh Lauren and the host and we we
Speaker 5: talk it through, like we talked through I feel like
Speaker 5: you need something here or whatever. We just kind of
Speaker 5: tell them the formula of the show and what we
Speaker 5: think will make them look good. Cast coverage, all of
Speaker 5: that stuff, and then we kind of decided from there,
Speaker 5: and there's some stuff that they'll fight for and there's
Speaker 5: some stuff that they're like, hey, I trust you.
Speaker 7: Has that ever been a comedian who's bought a ridiculous
Speaker 7: amount of life writers with him?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 5: What's ridiculous? Number more than two is kind of crazy
Speaker 5: based on what I've watched. All Right, all you have
Speaker 5: to do is confirm yes or no. You don't have
Speaker 5: to say anything.
Speaker 1: Did Rock bring a lot of writers on his episode? Thing? Though,
Speaker 1: because I can tell the difference between when a comedian
Speaker 1: host brings his own people and then when a comedy
Speaker 1: well not a comedian, but when someone knows to trust
Speaker 1: the process. Now, I don't have any expectations for the
Speaker 1: Larry David episode, but that to me was one of
Speaker 1: the funniest shows ever. Yeah, And I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: former uh, former SNL alumni, he knows that he knows
Speaker 1: the situation writing on that I know. But but thus
Speaker 1: that's why his episode turned out to be hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: whereas you know, I mean, there's no secret, Like even
Speaker 1: Rock and I talked about it, like his episode, the
Speaker 1: one with Prince was probably the the not so well
Speaker 1: executed episode.
Speaker 5: Well. I think that's also a big difference, is is that,
Speaker 5: like Larry David really wanted to do it. I don't.
Speaker 5: I think Chris was kind of Chris is all you
Speaker 5: know how Chris, He's like, I don't know, like he's.
Speaker 8: Never like gung ho excited to do that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like he's so just added
Speaker 5: to Like Larry David was kind of like dude, he
Speaker 5: was like laughing out loud at the table, like it
Speaker 5: was a little bit of a different kind of energy
Speaker 5: where it. Yeah, it was a little bit.
Speaker 7: Chris is a little bit more like Yeah, So that
Speaker 7: takes me ask that sketch with Chris and Dave, how
Speaker 7: many people does it take to write Christen days? Now?
Speaker 5: That sketch is almost and that sketch is a like
Speaker 5: perfect example of the week. That sketch was completely different
Speaker 5: Wednesday than it ended up being because because Hillary because yeah,
Speaker 5: so like they had to completely retool that sketch. It
Speaker 5: make different. I think the initial premise it was it
Speaker 5: was a Tucker Tucker and Neil wrote it. I think
Speaker 5: the initial premise, I don't even you have to me,
Speaker 5: I don't even remember the initiate, but it was so
Speaker 5: far from what it ended up being. That why I
Speaker 5: actually liked that bit.
Speaker 6: I like and it was hell of black. But you
Speaker 6: said wrote that.
Speaker 5: Neil Brennan and Brian Tucker they're very white but.
Speaker 6: They get pass some days.
Speaker 5: But that was like Tucker, Tucker and I write Black
Speaker 5: Jeopardy together. So to give you an idea of how No,
Speaker 5: I can his sense of he's from North Carolina. He's
Speaker 5: got like what city is from? I don't know where
Speaker 5: he's from. That as I'm saying that, I'm like, yeah, well, yeah,
Speaker 5: I really don't.
Speaker 6: Know what city, given him the past and everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know what city, but definitely
Speaker 5: North Carolina. Speaking of Speaking of which, I'm gonna gas
Speaker 5: Chap like around because he's a huge UNC fan.
Speaker 6: That whites man from North Carolina that knows our people.
Speaker 6: I must look into this.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 8: the end game is for him, but he seems nice now.
Speaker 5: Speaking speaking of which, speaking of which, it just hit
Speaker 5: me right now that you, Michael, are probably the first,
Speaker 5: uh black cast member of that show to really not
Speaker 5: have to endure the Is he going to be the
Speaker 5: next Eddie. Oh that's a really good point. No, yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm never, yeah I was. I was never chasing a
Speaker 5: ghost on that show. I think you're chasing a different
Speaker 5: ghost though, because I update, Yeah.
Speaker 8: I had to Seth was my ghost, which was like terrible.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, probably for you is like
Speaker 1: surviving weekend update as opposed to will I make a
Speaker 1: one hundred million dollar paramount movie deal once I get
Speaker 1: off the show.
Speaker 5: When I first got to the show, I was like,
Speaker 5: I was the only black writer on the show when
Speaker 5: I my first my first year. But that's why I
Speaker 5: don't like it's so weird when people say, oh, you're
Speaker 5: a first black head writer, and I'm always like, it
Speaker 5: wasn't like.
Speaker 8: It was a rule, you know, like Jackie Robins writer.
Speaker 5: Now, yeah, I like this year right because it was
Speaker 5: big h.
Speaker 8: That's the crazy thing. I became head writer.
Speaker 5: I became a guest writer, and Kevin Hart was the host.
Speaker 5: And when I became head writer, Kevin Hart was the host.
Speaker 5: Forgive me, he's doing it and not Ken the host.
Speaker 5: I gotta git a promotion for some reason. No, But
Speaker 5: I mean like I was the first I was there.
Speaker 5: I was the only writer there only black writer there, so.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: There was there was ton that after that. Then Leslie
Speaker 5: was a writer, and then the Kendricks was a There
Speaker 5: was a few, there was a few black women. Oh,
Speaker 5: head writer, I don't know, but like, so what is
Speaker 5: what is it to me to be the head god?
Speaker 5: Am I about to open this ben doors box? All
Speaker 5: I know from what I know from where I work, Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know a lot being the head writer. Interviews always
Speaker 5: act like they don't know, trying to keep I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that from what I observed, being the
Speaker 1: head writer is just I'm not dancing line it just
Speaker 1: let me say it. It's it's a nightmare because basically
Speaker 1: requires you to be the bad cop.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you gotta be the bad cop.
Speaker 5: But also well, head writer is not necessarily the bad cop.
Speaker 5: That's I feel like producer Higgins and I feel like
Speaker 5: the producers are more so the bad cop. Higgins is
Speaker 5: a bad cop.
Speaker 8: I mean they're in the position to be back.
Speaker 5: I've never seen Higgins serious day in his life, and
Speaker 5: I've known him from nine years, So I don't know
Speaker 5: how to comedy serious. You gotta the comedy serious people.
Speaker 5: Comedians are so sensitive, like so sens it's like because
Speaker 5: when you're telling somebody this isn't funny or you're doing
Speaker 5: it bad, you know, like you can't. It's hard to recover,
Speaker 5: especially when you're in that room with all with Kate
Speaker 5: McKinnon and all these mothers that are awesome and comedy
Speaker 5: is so absolute. Either the shit funny or it ain't.
Speaker 5: Is the news broken at the table, I don't know
Speaker 5: about this or is it like later like no, no,
Speaker 5: what after high school?
Speaker 8: After we read all of the sketch.
Speaker 5: Yes, it's pretty much like basketball the basketball team where
Speaker 5: they write what made it on the on the door okay,
Speaker 5: and then you all of the sketches are on in
Speaker 5: then they circles the ones that's that's going because then
Speaker 5: you have to go produce your sketch. Like literally, when
Speaker 5: you find out your sketches picked on on Wednesday night,
Speaker 5: you have to go to production and you go to
Speaker 5: wardrobe department, you go to the hair department, you go
Speaker 5: to the the set department, you go to props. You
Speaker 5: go to everybody and tell them what you need for.
Speaker 7: Your sketch and they give you liked they give you
Speaker 7: a budget like that's too expensive?
Speaker 6: You want an explosion, we can't do that.
Speaker 5: Like the videos for pre tape, they don't give you
Speaker 5: a number, they don't give you a number budget, but
Speaker 5: they will say, all right, that's a little we probably
Speaker 5: can't do that because you know, we can't get a
Speaker 5: real Lamborghini you know what I mean, whatever, But but
Speaker 5: a lot of our stuff they can do. Like if
Speaker 5: it's good though, that's when Lauren comes in. That's when
Speaker 5: he's like, no, you know what, fuck that, we're doing it.
Speaker 5: And then that's you know, he's always on the side
Speaker 5: of the show, which is the makes it a lot
Speaker 5: easier side question or you said, then Lauren has to
Speaker 5: come in, so well damn. Now you're the parent.
Speaker 1: So okay, say I'm a writer there and I'm asking
Speaker 1: you dad hypothetically Dad, no, no, no no, and you're like,
Speaker 1: and you somehow diplomatically or whatever, tell me, I don't
Speaker 1: think that's going to work.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Has there ever been a at dinner Lauren? I really
Speaker 1: had this this idea that I think and then like
Speaker 1: you gotta sneak at the Higgins and Lauren Lauren and
Speaker 1: then like going over your head the way the system
Speaker 1: is well nothing, See, I don't have an agenda, so nothing.
Speaker 8: You don't have to go over my head.
Speaker 5: If you perses of where a writer or a cast
Speaker 5: member like kind of goo wright is back to good.
Speaker 5: I feel like, what when like, we don't have an agenda?
Speaker 5: So when a writer will come up to us or
Speaker 5: whatever and tell us, like about a sketch they want
Speaker 5: to do, or an idea that they have or whatever,
Speaker 5: if we think it might be like a disaster, we'll
Speaker 5: be like, well, I mean, we'll try to kind of
Speaker 5: redirect the idea. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: you got the computer, you write it, you put the
Speaker 5: script out. If it plays at the table, everybody hears
Speaker 5: it at the same time. If it plays it seems
Speaker 5: like something that can be done, then that's your argument,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean? Yo, it worked, it killed?
Speaker 5: Why is this not going on? Then they might go
Speaker 5: to lawn after that. But Lorn makes that decision. Is
Speaker 5: it wise to we help him? But he makes that
Speaker 5: decision ultimately of what we should be producing, what's what
Speaker 5: shouldn't be produced? Is it wise to choose a partner?
Speaker 1: Like if you come in there on your own, like
Speaker 1: I'm alone writer, Yeah, is it wise for me to say, Okay?
Speaker 1: So Kate McKinnon is being used a lot more than
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. So you know, hey, Kate,
Speaker 1: I got an idea for you, or let's write a
Speaker 1: thing together.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it becomes that's the first move. That's the first move.
Speaker 1: Usually I don't want to know who's the barbershop share
Speaker 1: that no one wants to go to the guy.
Speaker 5: That doesn't cut number five. Yeah, but it's how Also
Speaker 5: it becomes a chemistry thing. It also becomes like because
Speaker 5: you got to think you're in a room with this person.
Speaker 5: So if you can't get along with somebody, you think
Speaker 5: they're weird, like you don't want to be in there
Speaker 5: trying to But that's my question. All right now, I
Speaker 5: hate to throw you under the bus.
Speaker 6: So yeah, John love he loves him.
Speaker 5: See right now, before you throw me under the there's
Speaker 5: still times of Steve's kind of the resident oscular grouch
Speaker 5: at at thirty on on the sixth floor. No, yeah,
Speaker 5: he is, but like like a lovable grump. You know,
Speaker 5: people know everyone loves Steve, but it's like a lovable grump.
Speaker 5: But the thing is is that what if you have
Speaker 5: the goods as a writer, but you might have aford
Speaker 5: to have an he got it. Yeah, like person, this
Speaker 5: guy is funny, right, but he loved him him you know, no, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean that happens too. I mean like that's it's
Speaker 5: it is political, like like anything else would be. You know,
Speaker 5: a lot of it just becomes you know, that's when
Speaker 5: the producers kind of step in because they you know,
Speaker 5: they kind of go around and they find out what
Speaker 5: everybody's writing.
Speaker 8: Hey, what are you guys working on? What are you
Speaker 8: working on?
Speaker 5: Okay, oh that'll be good, or we need more table,
Speaker 5: we need more of this whatever. So in those discussions
Speaker 5: they realize, hey, this cast member is not being written
Speaker 5: for as much or whatever, so maybe you know, and
Speaker 5: then we'll kind of like, okay, well, well what could
Speaker 5: be something that they can do? And then you make
Speaker 5: sure that you have covered You kind of make sure
Speaker 5: everybody has a shot at the table, everybody has something
Speaker 5: at the table. Do you feel a that's something that
Speaker 5: becomes a responsibility when you're as a head writer and
Speaker 5: as a producer that maybe you didn't even think about
Speaker 5: as a regular writer. So when you're a head writer,
Speaker 5: what's the difference between your head writer you're kind of
Speaker 5: you know, you're it's more decision making. Okay, it's more
Speaker 5: it's more decision making.
Speaker 1: Do you do you feel a well, I guess we
Speaker 1: all feel pressure as black people, But do you feel
Speaker 1: a pressure in.
Speaker 5: This sort of unspoken tug of war.
Speaker 1: Battle to make where you work reflective of where America
Speaker 1: is now as opposed to the comfort zone that SNL
Speaker 1: was associated with. Like, I can assume my idea that
Speaker 1: you're not an avid, obsessive SNL.
Speaker 5: Right, exactly.
Speaker 6: A update because not for nothing I do, right, No,
Speaker 6: I get it if I see me, I'm on, I'm
Speaker 6: on it.
Speaker 1: But right, see, but I respect the institution of comedy,
Speaker 1: so I'd watch it regardless.
Speaker 5: But I will say that now that I think now
Speaker 5: that they're aware that, okay, we have to be more inclusive.
Speaker 7: Of now that they were forced and pressure about a
Speaker 7: few years ago with the higher of two black ladies.
Speaker 1: Right, But I also feels like, you know, you have
Speaker 1: to reflect what America true is, like there's no hiding
Speaker 1: it anymore, right it used to be.
Speaker 5: Well, it's so funny you say that, because I was
Speaker 5: just talking to somebody at the show about this yesterday,
Speaker 5: and I always feel like when people bring up diversity
Speaker 5: they always bring up, just like different colors of people
Speaker 5: that think the same, you know, And I kind of
Speaker 5: like the idea. I kind of like the tension in
Speaker 5: the show of people having different beliefs and people kind
Speaker 5: of having different That's what makes it a variety show.
Speaker 5: That's what makes it so, you know, I kind of
Speaker 5: I like personally just kind of writing stuff that's a
Speaker 5: little bit against what maybe people think a liberal comedy
Speaker 5: show should be or whatever, because we're really not a
Speaker 5: liberal show. We're a variety show. We're supposed to be
Speaker 5: what America is, and America isn't one thing. America isn't
Speaker 5: all on the left.
Speaker 6: And I'm cologized.
Speaker 7: I forgot that Michael now is the head writer, which
Speaker 7: option been writing watching ever since they made that announcement,
Speaker 7: because now I can because I know there's a voice
Speaker 7: of higher up making this.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I mean what I'm saying. The idea of
Speaker 5: Black Jeopardy probably probably wouldn't have flown, but it was
Speaker 5: so authentic and so good. I was like, it's honest
Speaker 5: for me and some you know y'all like yeah, I
Speaker 5: hear you laughing a mirror like that sort of yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: Like where I'm laughing louder than the people that slept
Speaker 5: ten hours on the sidewalk to watch kill Swift perform.
Speaker 5: Its like, is there ever a concern?
Speaker 8: You just said a very interesting thing. But what you
Speaker 8: just said a very interesting thing.
Speaker 5: Which makes our show so unique is that our show
Speaker 5: we never know who our audience is gonna be. Our
Speaker 5: show could be all hairl of Swift fans. Ow I
Speaker 5: gotta do North Korea jokes for the people that came
Speaker 5: to see the one direction it might not work the same,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Or your sketch whatever, you
Speaker 5: could have a political sketch for, you know, the Bruno
Speaker 5: Mars from whoever and or vice versa. You know, you
Speaker 5: could have kind of a uh, you know, I feel
Speaker 5: like the musical act dictates dictates, uh, the musical as
Speaker 5: what audience is going to be there typically because music
Speaker 5: fans are a little bit different than actor fans, you know,
Speaker 5: so the host, the host usually has a fan base
Speaker 5: of you know, it's recognizable, but the music is the
Speaker 5: motherfucker's just camping out, you know what I mean. So,
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, it's just different. You never know
Speaker 5: who there is. John Stewart does his show. They didn't
Speaker 5: see John Stewart or Colbert Jimmy like they did see Jimmy.
Speaker 5: You know. So it's it's a little bit different for
Speaker 5: us because the Starter show is our cast and our host, and.
Speaker 6: When it comes it is like all the Black America
Speaker 6: swoop down.
Speaker 5: There's certain there's certain black shows that we have that's like,
Speaker 5: oh boy, my phone was about to be.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like Glover, it was like a ship.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Donald Glover, Drake of course, Kevin Hart,
Speaker 5: of course, any chappelle forget about it. It was what
Speaker 5: was a chappelle and tribe was Tiffany had I got
Speaker 5: a lot of I got a lot of calls tif one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was shocked. I got in a few
Speaker 1: of those. It's my dream to actually be an intern there.
Speaker 5: So that.
Speaker 1: Like for me, like Higgins is like, no, man, you
Speaker 1: can't come to pitch meetings, but I just want to
Speaker 1: see how pitch meetings are, just so I can figure
Speaker 1: out how that machine runs.
Speaker 7: But you have a thirty rock show in you you
Speaker 7: know that there's like a whole show in that building
Speaker 7: that you could just host.
Speaker 1: I you know, we talk about that all the time,
Speaker 1: like what happens out of the show is actually that's
Speaker 1: more funnier and interesting than you know, the shows that
Speaker 1: are produced.
Speaker 7: There is it a pressure for a Lauren Michael's produced movie,
Speaker 7: Like what's the process? Because it feels like Lauren only
Speaker 7: really produces the movies that his people are in. But
Speaker 7: is there pressure or is there like, Okay, I know
Speaker 7: this is an added incentive that I might get him
Speaker 7: behind it, so I need to write something.
Speaker 8: Is there a pressure to make one?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Oh, I'm never really I'm never really into anything
Speaker 5: like that. Like I'm always like, what if I have
Speaker 5: a good idea, how do we execute the idea? I
Speaker 5: think it comes from doing that's enough for so long.
Speaker 5: It's just like if I have an idea, that's if
Speaker 5: it's a sketch, I'm like, oh, this will probably be
Speaker 5: better as a live sketule. This will probably better as
Speaker 5: a pre table, This will probably be better as a
Speaker 5: sitcom script, but this will probably be better as a movie.
Speaker 5: Like that's whatever it is to execute it is how
Speaker 5: how I go by I's to hear you talk. You're
Speaker 5: so nonchalant about it that it's like, hey, you know that,
Speaker 5: Whereas like when when when Pharaoh was there? There was
Speaker 5: always like the hope of tomorrow, Like Okay, no, this
Speaker 5: is gonna be my moment. No, no, you know that's
Speaker 5: not how comedy works, man, you know. But the thing
Speaker 5: is is that for you to just get in the
Speaker 5: comedy less than eleven twelve years ago, Like how do
Speaker 5: you have this sage?
Speaker 7: Like because I enjoy it, You're like in the moment.
Speaker 7: Most people don't. They're not in the moment working for
Speaker 7: the next one.
Speaker 5: Look, I've met in a moment because I enjoyed the moment,
Speaker 5: Like this is fun for me, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So it's like this is you know, like this is
Speaker 5: this right here is fun and producing something that's fun
Speaker 5: and right being in the writing room is fun. So
Speaker 5: I'm not in the rush to leave or do something
Speaker 5: else if I'm having fun doing this, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean. I feel like a lot of people are
Speaker 5: always kind of trying to find that next thing. Once
Speaker 5: they get it, it's not it's not fun, and they're like, well,
Speaker 5: what's the others the next? I enjoy this part of it.
Speaker 7: So now that we know that you're not in a
Speaker 7: rush to do things, which is why we haven't seen
Speaker 7: you in too many projects. But However, I don't like
Speaker 7: when we saw you in Top five, I was like, okay, so.
Speaker 8: This a whole scene, fucking cut. I'm going to I'm
Speaker 8: going to direct this floor.
Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm still mad at Chris.
Speaker 6: But you did it, which is like that.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 8: I had a whole thing.
Speaker 5: It was like me and Chris like one on one,
Speaker 5: I'm telling him to go to the projects and then
Speaker 5: and then but why in the movie, as like somebody
Speaker 5: that like has to make those decisions. I'm like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: I guess that was a stupid transitional scene that you
Speaker 5: did not need or whatever. But I was still mad
Speaker 5: that I that I was cut.
Speaker 7: But what was that like in that scene with all
Speaker 7: of those people at that one time, because you know
Speaker 7: when he went back to the projects and it was
Speaker 7: like you Sherry Shepherd.
Speaker 5: Chris, Chris just the shit out of me, and that
Speaker 5: during that what you call it, it was hilarious. He
Speaker 5: goes we were because I remember in that that XM studio,
Speaker 5: that scene it's me and him and Rosario and Rosario.
Speaker 8: I'm like starstruck.
Speaker 5: I was, you know, and I'm like holy ship and
Speaker 5: she's like nice where You're like, oh my God, I
Speaker 5: think I think she loves me anytime. Exactly. She's just
Speaker 5: like a nice person that happens to beautiful like this,
Speaker 5: she must love me. She was super nice and then
Speaker 5: uh she was. She was like, where are you from?
Speaker 5: Because she's from the Lower east Side too, so we
Speaker 5: were talking about like the Lower east Side and she's like.
Speaker 8: Have I met you before? And I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't think so, And that's all Chris Hurt.
Speaker 5: You don't think so. You don't know if you met
Speaker 5: Rosario Dawson, I don't know. And everybody's just dying like
Speaker 5: have you met Beyonce? You remember that nigg.
Speaker 8: Like and I'm like on set like an action.
Speaker 5: Like I don't know what I'm doing.
Speaker 8: Just give me out of here, just give me my
Speaker 8: Uber pull back.
Speaker 5: So wait, what was your reaction when they told you
Speaker 5: we want you to try a weaken up dates? My
Speaker 5: reaction was no? Initially you said no initially? I mean
Speaker 5: it was like, it's the same reaction I hosting Emmy.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I don't know that, but could you collectively
Speaker 5: feel all of Black America watching you to make sure
Speaker 5: that you know?
Speaker 8: I never really, I never thought it'd be that I
Speaker 8: never thought.
Speaker 5: I always thought, if you if you let me talk,
Speaker 5: if you let me say what I want to say,
Speaker 5: somebody's gonna notice what I'm saying because I just like
Speaker 5: to say shit like that. You know.
Speaker 8: That's like since kindergarten.
Speaker 5: But on Weekend Update, the format was so rigid that
Speaker 5: it took me like maybe two seasons to even feel
Speaker 5: like I could say what I wanted to say, just
Speaker 5: because it was it was already. It's such a set
Speaker 5: formula that we were doing. I always feel like there's
Speaker 5: like anybody on TV has like there's like a stepdad
Speaker 5: period for a lot of people that's replacing somebody. So
Speaker 5: a lot of times the audience is going to reject
Speaker 5: you anyway like a step dad, just because you're not
Speaker 5: just because you're not that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: Like if I think I saw like Trevor go through it,
Speaker 5: and you see I saw, you know, yes, Stephen, Stephen
Speaker 5: Colbert certainly with you know, just it's just it's not
Speaker 5: let him in. So I don't like it because it's
Speaker 5: not let them and it's like, yeah, but that's Stephen Colbert,
Speaker 5: but it's not let you know what I mean? Huh,
Speaker 5: you get after a while right now YouTube my favorite comment,
Speaker 5: I'm like, who's polaring? Well, I don't know. That's because
Speaker 5: when you when you, when you start doing, when you
Speaker 5: start doing you, when you start doing it, they realized, well, okay,
Speaker 5: he's not good.
Speaker 8: That's not coming back, is not coming back, and I'm waking.
Speaker 7: Pretty use of that role change in like every decade.
Speaker 7: I feel like, yeah, like Dennis millerded, but you have.
Speaker 5: To make it yours. There was a point, there was
Speaker 5: like a turning point for me on the show where
Speaker 5: I was like, if I didn't show up to work
Speaker 5: and someone else did this job, no one would care
Speaker 5: because there's nothing that I'm saying that only I can say.
Speaker 5: And that was how I started writing, when I was like, well,
Speaker 5: what can I say that nobody else can say? Do
Speaker 5: you write? Or does someone else?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 5: Just now I write? At first, I didn't write any
Speaker 5: of it for like a season, I didn't write any
Speaker 5: of them and then and now and Lauren would be like,
Speaker 5: you need to write it, and I was like, well
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 8: I don't think you realize what I write, you.
Speaker 5: Know what I mean? I didn't know remember in Trading
Speaker 5: Places when they brought Eddie Murray to the house and
Speaker 5: he was in there was like, this is all your
Speaker 5: stuff and he's still stealing you. Like, no, you don't understand,
Speaker 5: you're you're stealing your stuff. Like that's how I felt
Speaker 5: at the show. They were like, just take control of it.
Speaker 5: And I'd be like, yeah, okay, whatever, Hey what should
Speaker 5: I say next? They said, no, say what you want
Speaker 5: to say. So after a while I was like, slide
Speaker 5: in one and then I would be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 5: not okay, I slide in two. And the next thing
Speaker 5: I know, I was like, all right, this is what
Speaker 5: we're going to do. How much research do you have
Speaker 5: to do? Like do you now have to obsessively watch
Speaker 5: MSNBC and Fox News? And I don't. Everybody is everybody
Speaker 5: prizes himself that everybody that does my job or my
Speaker 5: type of job prizes himself to being the smartest guy
Speaker 5: in the room. I try to take the perspective of
Speaker 5: the guy that does that's the smartest guy in the
Speaker 5: room that doesn't know anything about what's going on. Like
Speaker 5: I tried. My grandmother is my comedy influence. When it
Speaker 5: comes to a weekend update, I'm like, if I told
Speaker 5: my grandmother what happened. What would her reaction immediate? You
Speaker 5: know what I mean? And that's how you get cheap cracker,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, That's how you get that though.
Speaker 5: It's just like, what's the what do people who don't
Speaker 5: watch the news all the time? I think when they
Speaker 5: hear this ship, it's like the kind of lowest common
Speaker 5: denominator of where's that connection? And that's kind of where
Speaker 5: I write from. But you know that's my thing, and
Speaker 5: Colin does the other thing and then it so jump
Speaker 5: into the Emmys? How long does it well to August? Now?
Speaker 5: And when when are they? We just had our first
Speaker 5: We just had a meeting yesterday, not our first meeting,
Speaker 5: but we had a meeting, a meeting yesterday. We're gonna
Speaker 5: it's gonna be fun. I think we would be the
Speaker 5: SNL team that you work with? Are you working with?
Speaker 5: The is there an mmy team? We got we got
Speaker 5: a few ringers, but we got a lot of us
Speaker 5: and know people and we kind of got a good balance.
Speaker 1: Does it require like are you you know, are you
Speaker 1: entertaining uh you know, spirit fingers, musical opening or is
Speaker 1: it just like all right?
Speaker 5: There might be something might be some elements of music.
Speaker 5: We wanted to feel like Essenel is hosting the Yemmy's,
Speaker 5: but while still keeping the integrity of the Yemmys, you know,
Speaker 5: like we don't want to kind of spoof it or
Speaker 5: lampoon it. But is it me?
Speaker 7: Me thinks Lauren also got a special relationship with the
Speaker 7: Emmys because, like in retrospect you think about the Tina Amy,
Speaker 7: like a lot of alums have kind of hosted that.
Speaker 5: As well well, the way they did Well Amy did
Speaker 5: goldenlu They rotated through the networks the Emmys, so like this,
Speaker 5: so when NBC has it, I think it's been Jimmy,
Speaker 5: and it's been Jimmy is like four years ago, and
Speaker 5: Seth's done it before.
Speaker 7: They have a favorite host so far, Like for awarding
Speaker 7: any award show? Have you watched an award show once?
Speaker 5: He was like, Yo, I like Tina Aamy a lot.
Speaker 5: I think they I think I love what they do together.
Speaker 5: I think they're they're really good. And I think I
Speaker 5: think there are two people that when they do what
Speaker 5: they can do, what only they can do. You know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 8: I guess you can't just have two random people do
Speaker 8: the same app.
Speaker 1: I was going to say since it's such a staple
Speaker 1: where you know you have the Peacha delivery guy in
Speaker 1: the audience thing, you should just take them to like
Speaker 1: Roscoes or something.
Speaker 5: I would love I would love to put I got
Speaker 5: we got a couple of tricks of us. I got
Speaker 5: a couple of tricks of us leaves that we were
Speaker 5: talking about that could be really fun. I'll tell you.
Speaker 5: I can't spoil it. Don't spoil'll kill me.
Speaker 6: But you're gonna have you need some que cars because
Speaker 6: you don't watch TV.
Speaker 5: So all those people in the audit we got que cars.
Speaker 5: Then we got what you call it to problem. Yeah, hopefully,
Speaker 5: Well we got to figure all that out though, because
Speaker 5: you can't show the que cars on TV. So actually
Speaker 5: by the time this air is this it will have
Speaker 5: when it's the.
Speaker 6: Air date again for the Emmys, I think late September.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like I think time spoil it? No, no, no,
Speaker 5: maybe all right, I don't know. I don't know Mario
Speaker 5: one about that unlikely, so I didn't I didn't get it.
Speaker 5: I was like, this ship is a hit, y'all really
Speaker 5: like this song? Yeah, Mario.
Speaker 6: Favorite, I think about Mario Wrio.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't know, so any any plans for any
Speaker 5: other stand up specials.
Speaker 8: Or yeah I'm working on the special now.
Speaker 5: But another one that I think is where I feel
Speaker 5: like specials are just not really because so many people
Speaker 5: have specials that it's almost like, yeah, it's special anymore money, Yeah,
Speaker 5: they gave me a little it was it was okay,
Speaker 5: they didn't they didn't monique me, they didn't me. They
Speaker 5: did they took care of me a little bit. But uh,
Speaker 5: it's it's not even so much. I don't know. I
Speaker 5: just feel I always like to go against the ground.
Speaker 5: Everybody's going one way, I kind of want to go
Speaker 5: another way. I was thinking of something a little bit different.
Speaker 5: Everybody seems to be trying to do stuff a little
Speaker 5: bit more conceptual. Now that's, you know, just because they're
Speaker 5: trying to stand out. But I don't know, it's just specials.
Speaker 5: It's just weird, like when you have access to producing them,
Speaker 5: when it's when it's not like four year. When I
Speaker 5: was a kid, it was like four specials would come
Speaker 5: out a year, Like you waited for Chris Rock Special
Speaker 5: because that was one of three specials that.
Speaker 8: You were going to get to see Kat Williams or whatever.
Speaker 5: And that's kind of why they were so big, and
Speaker 5: when the special came on repeat, it was that one,
Speaker 5: so everybody kind of knew it.
Speaker 8: And I feel like, now there's ten a week have Netflix.
Speaker 6: It's like, who oh yeah, a millennial nasty comedian.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's a lot, and not just Netflix, it's
Speaker 5: just it's everywhere. But the cool thing that I do
Speaker 5: like about Netflix though not just because they paid me last,
Speaker 5: but they people tend to watch multiple in a row,
Speaker 5: so like like when Dave's special comes out, I get
Speaker 5: a lot of hits about my special because I'm like, oh,
Speaker 5: so you saw it?
Speaker 8: Was like if you like that guy, yeah, and then
Speaker 8: they kind of throw you out.
Speaker 5: So it is cool because the people that are going
Speaker 5: like looking for one guy will you know, discover a
Speaker 5: lot more.
Speaker 8: So that is that is a benefit.
Speaker 5: But for me, I just think conceptually to make people
Speaker 5: talk about it, it can't just be did you hear
Speaker 5: his you see his special? It's gotta be did you
Speaker 5: see this thing about that? You know? It's got to
Speaker 5: be a little bit more interact with people on Yeah,
Speaker 5: Oh that's fun. I don't get to do that a
Speaker 5: lot anymore, but they don't let me. They don't yeah,
Speaker 5: they don't really are you. I know, I gotta start.
Speaker 5: I gotta start dragging my nuts.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 5: I want to ask you alway want to ask you,
Speaker 5: how did What was your reaction when the text from
Speaker 5: old Girl hitting neck NI? I just wanted to dap
Speaker 5: you up from Yo, you handled that ship? I was like,
Speaker 5: word the fun up, Here's what happened here. So I
Speaker 5: got hit up by page six on Facebook. Literally she
Speaker 5: was like, hey, we got this, uh this lady that's
Speaker 5: been saying that you did x y Z the hood
Speaker 5: and you know you were really mean and rude and nasty,
Speaker 5: and she We're gonna run the story.
Speaker 8: Do you have any comments?
Speaker 5: And she showed me the story she was gonna run,
Speaker 5: and it was just basically close on it that I
Speaker 5: was a piece of ships that I was like, did
Speaker 5: this you know, just from texting?
Speaker 8: And I was like, none of that shit happened.
Speaker 5: Like I have every text and it's not even that
Speaker 5: I saved text, it's just I never delete text. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I just don't think too, you know. So I was like, Yo,
Speaker 5: I found her number and I was like, this is
Speaker 5: every interaction I've ever had with her and I'm not
Speaker 5: even gonna tell you my side, I'll let you tell
Speaker 5: me my side. And she was like, okay, can I
Speaker 5: use these? And I was like, yeah, I'm thinking she
Speaker 5: means use a quote. She's gonna the fucking screenshots that
Speaker 5: I sent her, so it looked way it looked like
Speaker 5: I was trying to I was like, no, I was
Speaker 5: really just showing her, thinking that she was going to
Speaker 5: quote one line or two or whatever and say well
Speaker 5: this is bullshit or even or take it to an
Speaker 5: editor and like hey, we can't run this story. And
Speaker 5: then they ran it, and then it kind of I
Speaker 5: almost wish I didn't say anything about it, because then
Speaker 5: maybe it just would have went away.
Speaker 8: But I also think if that ship would have.
Speaker 5: Ruined me, like in the climbing of me Too and
Speaker 5: the climbing of you know, the harassment, I would have
Speaker 5: never been able to defend myself. If I didn't have
Speaker 5: those no, no, no, I would have been fried. I
Speaker 5: appreciate you for clapping back. I was like, where the
Speaker 5: funk up?
Speaker 8: No, that was my I learned my lesson. Yeah, that's
Speaker 8: what I mean. When's this come out?
Speaker 5: A wait? That was a rail celebrity, uh tender status.
Speaker 6: Not necessarily.
Speaker 5: It's the same ship.
Speaker 6: No, you have to be.
Speaker 5: Accepted, you know, like how you go to the hallal
Speaker 5: cart and one's got a long line and one doesn't.
Speaker 5: It's the same fucking meat. It's the same ship. It's
Speaker 5: just one got a line, one don't. From the results, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean really, I mean look, it's the same I
Speaker 5: didn't know that was a ray of fel.
Speaker 8: The only thing I liked about Ray though, is that
Speaker 8: you can't scream shot on.
Speaker 5: The well yeah they warned you. Yeah, like I did.
Speaker 5: It's like, oh damn, you can't. You can't scream? So
Speaker 5: what so what is the rail? And I'm not kidding.
Speaker 5: So it's a it's a spot. It's a spot that like.
Speaker 1: You know, I might see Demu Levado's real joining. I
Speaker 1: might see you know, like I see Peers like yeah,
Speaker 1: singers seven Street.
Speaker 5: Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: You know, it's basically a tender where you will see
Speaker 1: more writers people to.
Speaker 5: Lose, right exactly, there you go, I got it. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 5: like can't keep it in my account. Still ship. Damn.
Speaker 5: So if you're looking for a sad immediately and then
Speaker 5: what really hurt me too was you know Dan Soda
Speaker 5: very funny comedian Dan Soda. He's he's a writer on
Speaker 5: Billions to show Billions, and so I told them about
Speaker 5: Ray like a while ago, and so he wrote it
Speaker 5: in the show and he was like, Michael Chay's on
Speaker 5: it on the show. So people that watch watch it's
Speaker 5: like an episode where somebody says, Michael cha is on
Speaker 5: Riyo and I was like you, So now people are like,
Speaker 5: are you really on Rya? So now I'm like associated
Speaker 5: with ride. They need to throw me some money. So
Speaker 5: between that and that chick, I gave Ryan a lot
Speaker 5: of business.
Speaker 8: I'm certain that is hilarious.
Speaker 1: Yeah, your your ig is some of the most dangerous
Speaker 1: comedy they don't I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: I feel like you use it because you know it
Speaker 5: would be going in twenty four.
Speaker 8: Hours, sometimes less I deleted, sometimes even quicker.
Speaker 5: It's just fun. So you leave your comments open for
Speaker 5: them for people.
Speaker 8: To my messages. I live open and I like screen
Speaker 8: cap and I answer it.
Speaker 5: I like it better than Twitter because on Twitter, like
Speaker 5: they could take they can just at you and then
Speaker 5: they get your whole followers to read all of that. Ship.
Speaker 5: At this I get to select. I get to pick
Speaker 5: what I want people to see. You I don't want people. Yeah,
Speaker 5: motherfucker could like at you and then everybody that filed
Speaker 5: that read your ship. They see that. That's why they
Speaker 5: say the wow, crazy shit to you, so that they
Speaker 5: could be attached to and then the motherfuckers they use
Speaker 5: your own thing. I never thought that, Michael, I don't
Speaker 5: like it. Yeah, speaking of dangerous comedy, where you at
Speaker 5: SNL when Luis c K did the monologue the child,
Speaker 5: how did that shit go? Like, how did that come about?
Speaker 5: I mean at that point it was still Louis, you know,
Speaker 5: it was still like everyone loved Louis, so he could
Speaker 5: you know. Like that's the old thing about comedy for me,
Speaker 5: is it's not so much what it is, it's who
Speaker 5: can do it, you know, kind of like the Richard
Speaker 5: Pryor thing, Like, it's not so much what he's saying,
Speaker 5: it's that he's saying it in the in that you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, in that format that you're like, damn,
Speaker 5: that's bold, you know. So like for Louie to come
Speaker 5: on National TV and say some shit like fucking kids
Speaker 5: must be good, You're like, what you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Like on network and this is the first thing we're
Speaker 5: seeing this this is supposed to make us watch the
Speaker 5: rest of the show. It's just bold. It's just like
Speaker 5: fun to watch just on that. You know, like you
Speaker 5: that you're even willing to try that. But that's one
Speaker 5: of the dope things about our show is that that's
Speaker 5: where you can do that. That's always got like a
Speaker 5: writer's room that came up with that stuff. No, that
Speaker 5: was him, that was him, that was Louis. Stand ups
Speaker 5: usually will work out their monologue the whole week, okay,
Speaker 5: and do they have to run it by y'all before
Speaker 5: or I see it? The first time we see it
Speaker 5: is usually a dress rehearsal. They don't even do it
Speaker 5: through run through. They'll do it at dresshearsal with a
Speaker 5: live audience because telling jokes to nobody is like very
Speaker 5: demoralizing because you have to hear the last you know
Speaker 5: what I mean.
Speaker 1: It's just like, Yeah, they do that a lot. At
Speaker 1: thirty Rocks. Someone has to go through their routine to
Speaker 1: an empty audience. Yeah, that's rough, that's right.
Speaker 5: I remember when I worked at The Daily Show, John
Speaker 5: would go through run through and he would do all
Speaker 5: of the jokes to just like us. Yeah, like maybe
Speaker 5: twenty of us, maybe fifteen, fifteen, twenty of us, and
Speaker 5: that's how he would guess, would then make decisions based
Speaker 5: on We would all huddle up right after and he'd
Speaker 5: be like, move this, do this, do this, do this,
Speaker 5: and then we have one more meeting with a big
Speaker 5: ass whiteboard. And that was the show. John was a
Speaker 5: motherfucker Like I never seen anybody that kind of knew
Speaker 5: the audience reaction before the audience knew it better than John.
Speaker 8: He was so good at that.
Speaker 6: You bounced back and forth because yeah, I went.
Speaker 5: To I went to the Daily Show. I didn't have
Speaker 5: It was just pretty much I didn't have a summer.
Speaker 5: As soon as that Snow wrapped, I went straight to
Speaker 5: the Daily Show, And as soon as the Daily Show
Speaker 5: and Snow came back, I went.
Speaker 6: Straight back to Was that John's last season or one
Speaker 6: was John's last season?
Speaker 5: I was like maybe three four months before he left.
Speaker 5: I didn't know he was leaving though, I had no
Speaker 5: idea that's both John's right or no no, no, no
Speaker 5: no no. When I remember, like one of my last weeks,
Speaker 5: he was given Trevor the tour to come in as
Speaker 5: like a correspondent. He was like a special court. He
Speaker 5: was like kind of doing what Wilmore was going to
Speaker 5: be doing. Ah, can you remember what Will Moore used
Speaker 5: to do? Yeah, that's what he like. That was kind
Speaker 5: of how it was presented, like, oh, yeah, well, you know,
Speaker 5: Trevor's gonna you know, but he knew otherwise. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't think he did.
Speaker 5: I don't think he I don't think he did because
Speaker 5: I think for a while they wasn't sure who's gonna be,
Speaker 5: and then they decided before they decided trup. That's what
Speaker 5: I know. I never really talked to Trevor about it.
Speaker 6: TV funny at everybody else's job.
Speaker 1: Are you looking forward to uh, season forty or is
Speaker 1: it forty two? Now this is forty this will be
Speaker 1: forty four? Jesus christ is Obama?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Wow, you're right, dude, are you? Are you looking forward
Speaker 5: to it? Or is it like I am Obama? Ye?
Speaker 6: Or Michael?
Speaker 5: I think that I think that this one's gonna be
Speaker 5: a fun one, honestly, because I feel like everybody's kind
Speaker 5: of hawking out. I think like Kate McKinnon's is a superstar,
Speaker 5: Leslie's you know, star, and I think I think like
Speaker 5: this is going to be like a fun season where
Speaker 5: everybody kind of starts to I think, like, it's not
Speaker 5: as Trump heavy anymore. How do you do that? I
Speaker 5: don't think it will be ill, do you? Yeah? Do you?
Speaker 1: I mean not that if you expect impeachment action or whatever. Midterms.
Speaker 1: I have faith that something will happen in the midterms.
Speaker 1: You know, something will happen.
Speaker 5: Either more collusion or the House will I don't think
Speaker 5: they got him. You don't think they got him yet.
Speaker 8: I don't think they got him.
Speaker 5: But it's almost weird because it's like you when you're
Speaker 5: about like to U see two dudes about the fight,
Speaker 5: and they say, like, the dude that's taking off the
Speaker 5: most clothes don't want to fight. Yeah, I think that's
Speaker 5: what my little I don't think they I don't think
Speaker 5: they want I don't think they got it.
Speaker 8: Well, I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't know. It's kind of weird. I'm in the
Speaker 5: minority with that. I'll say that, but I just think
Speaker 5: they would have did it by that well. As a
Speaker 5: black person, I gotta have faith in something. Man impossible.
Speaker 5: How long? But how long isay? I'm not the biggest history,
Speaker 5: but how long did Watergate take?
Speaker 1: How long was that not this long nine months because
Speaker 1: basically Democrats have the house, Like if we just get
Speaker 1: the house, this nightmare couldn't you know, But we don't
Speaker 1: have the house we need.
Speaker 5: We need five.
Speaker 1: So but it's I'm just saying that either way, like
Speaker 1: if if he continues, that's technically.
Speaker 5: Good for you per se if Trump continues, I mean,
Speaker 5: because I feel this is like SNL what the cultural No,
Speaker 5: we could say that no one.
Speaker 1: But the thing is is that you guys are more
Speaker 1: you guys are more digestible. Like for me, we can
Speaker 1: Update is actually a news program now because that scares me.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I watched real News seriously, it's yeah,
Speaker 5: it's no, No, nomics are more the way I present
Speaker 5: it is in a way that's more digestible. I mean,
Speaker 5: you don't.
Speaker 1: Realize that every every diatribe that you do on weekend
Speaker 1: up date winds up being a heavily passed around.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I understand it on on that on that front,
Speaker 5: but I'm saying there's stuff I feel like we could
Speaker 5: do on week and Update that isn't necessarily Trump. That's
Speaker 5: way more important. Like I watched like the real Estate
Speaker 5: that Oliver has. I watched the real Estate that even
Speaker 5: Trevor has, but I mean they do. He does this
Speaker 5: show every day, so it's a little bit less fair
Speaker 5: to say to compare it. But you know, like there's
Speaker 5: there's a lot of important ship that we could be
Speaker 5: talking about that this motherfucker right, and it's like, really,
Speaker 5: I got to talk about his wife now, God, talk
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's even Trump specific, but I feel
Speaker 1: that the domino effect of like we definitely would not
Speaker 1: have me too if it weren't for the Trump administration
Speaker 1: that I feel. I don't feel there's a lot of things. Yes,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, I.
Speaker 5: Don't think so. I mean, because it would have happened
Speaker 5: during the Obama.
Speaker 7: Because remember what happened on inauguration Day, a women's march.
Speaker 5: Yeah, against everything, like whatever he stands for.
Speaker 1: Then it's like we're gonna sort of seek it out
Speaker 1: and everyone else other than him and make them pay for.
Speaker 5: What he represents. We can't get him out of the paint.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So even if you don't have to talk about
Speaker 1: him specifically, I mean, we're you're gonna talk about immigration,
Speaker 1: which is a result of him.
Speaker 5: You're going to talk about me too.
Speaker 7: He's right, everything even the banks and getting the access
Speaker 7: to our Facebook.
Speaker 5: That's his fault.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna blame him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're gonna have Zuckerberg jokes. And the way the
Speaker 5: Way Update the Way Update is delegated. It's you know,
Speaker 5: it's about four minutes and then a three minute future
Speaker 5: and then you know what I mean, three minutes and
Speaker 5: then maybe a three minute feature and you know, so
Speaker 5: it's like the real estate that we have to be
Speaker 5: able to talk about, and then it's between two people,
Speaker 5: so you cut that. It's like it's almost like like income.
Speaker 5: You gotta cut that in happening, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So you get two minutes? Are you pretty much? I
Speaker 5: pretty much get four minutes to talk about everything I
Speaker 5: want to talk about in the week, and some of
Speaker 5: it has to be trumped. So it's like, how do
Speaker 5: you not talk? Like if didn't? Motherfucker is tweeting Saturday morning,
Speaker 5: what's Saturday afternoon? Which happens. I can almost set my
Speaker 5: clock to this. Motherfucker. He tweets Saturday at like eight
Speaker 5: in the morning, between anywhere between seven and eleven in
Speaker 5: the morning. I gotta look at it. We gotta relook
Speaker 5: at all of the jokes that we have figure out,
Speaker 5: all right, well, what development is this more important than this?
Speaker 5: What do we have to so like we have all
Speaker 5: our jokes on the table, we be we gotta lift ship,
Speaker 5: all right, this is this is not even important anymore.
Speaker 5: This feels weird to say this. By the time, you know,
Speaker 5: at midnight, this is gonna be old news. So it's
Speaker 5: just exhausting. But not even so much update specific. I
Speaker 5: just mean show wise. I think that people have seen
Speaker 5: the impression. People have seen us go through, they've seen
Speaker 5: us color it. There's not so I feel like this
Speaker 5: is gonna be a year where we maybe take it
Speaker 5: to the next level of just creatively of different things
Speaker 5: that's possible with our cast, and not let this motherfucker dominate.
Speaker 6: Maybe you take the lead and the news will follow.
Speaker 5: That's what I mean. You know, it's not just me.
Speaker 8: It's not up to me.
Speaker 7: It's also but I mean as a show, like because
Speaker 7: the news is doing the same thing that you're saying
Speaker 7: y'all trying to stay away from, like MSNBC, CNN, it's
Speaker 7: all the same all the time.
Speaker 5: His name so yeah, and he knows and he's he's
Speaker 5: playing it like an instrument. Man. He knows he knows
Speaker 5: exactly when to say some crazy shit about Lebron, you
Speaker 5: know exactly. Yeah, he knows when, he knows when to dominate.
Speaker 5: Motherfucker knows how to control the news source. And everybody's
Speaker 5: guilty because we all, I think it's interesting. We all
Speaker 5: want the clout, you know, like we all want to
Speaker 5: have the witty, perfect thing to say about what he's saying.
Speaker 5: And it's just like, dude, you don't realize you're playing along.
Speaker 5: You know, you're really just you don't get it.
Speaker 7: The Hollywood star fame people, they already took the lead.
Speaker 7: They said, just take it away, so it won't be
Speaker 7: no debate, no argument has gone good.
Speaker 5: Wait, so, speaking of distraction, in wrapping up this episode.
Speaker 8: This was fun as hell. By Yeah, this is thanks
Speaker 8: for letting me come up here.
Speaker 5: You're welcome. I have to say, uh, dude, you have
Speaker 5: to make more Willie. You don't know.
Speaker 1: Look, I have three YouTube mixes on my private YouTube page.
Speaker 5: One's all Michael, one's all Soul Trained. The other is Willie.
Speaker 5: Who was Willy? Who Willy?
Speaker 6: Is this this?
Speaker 5: I'm probably no, No, it's it's funny ship.
Speaker 1: It's it's a character that Michael's written written for Keenan Thompson.
Speaker 5: Yeah, how he's the most optimistic. He's the most optimistic guy.
Speaker 5: I know, he's my neighbor. He always sees the bright
Speaker 5: side of everything. But he just has the worst life ever.
Speaker 5: So it's really sad he's been involved with. It's really familiar,
Speaker 5: like you know, he is the worst luck on the
Speaker 5: worst luck on nerve and uh, he's always trying to
Speaker 5: cheer me up and he just keeps using an example. Wait, Will,
Speaker 5: he's based on a real person. No, Will, he's not
Speaker 5: based on a real person. I think I had an
Speaker 5: uncle Delmore who was sort of like that.
Speaker 8: And this is this is a week enough. He's an
Speaker 8: updated character.
Speaker 5: The punchline is always like he'll say, hey, it's like
Speaker 5: they always say, and he'll come up with an idiom,
Speaker 5: but he doesn't realize. He doesn't realized that. You know.
Speaker 5: It's like they always say, hey, Willy, what did I
Speaker 5: tell you about coming in I'm your mama? That I
Speaker 5: like the y'all did it was what the weekend up there?
Speaker 5: The one it was only one that got cut that
Speaker 5: was like way too rough? Will Willie where he goes? Uh,
Speaker 5: It's like I told Martin Luther king you can smoke outside.
Speaker 5: They like you can't do that. The line where where
Speaker 5: is the line? I mean, why is that? And that
Speaker 5: one oh Man, we for Willy Well, I don't know Willy.
Speaker 5: We had him say some wow ship where they're afraid
Speaker 5: of like kickback from black. I think Keenan was like,
Speaker 5: I don't want to do that, but that's Willing. He
Speaker 5: can smoke on the boundary about any that's That was
Speaker 5: like the craziest one where we were like, I don't know.
Speaker 5: We had him uh a graduation one where he was like,
Speaker 5: it's like my class told me when I left the school,
Speaker 5: you locked us in with the shooter wheel.
Speaker 8: It's just like, yeah, yeah, every time I do it,
Speaker 8: y'all will do anymore?
Speaker 5: What up with that? Is that? The thing about what
Speaker 5: with that is Jason he's not there anymore and Fred's
Speaker 5: not there, so it's hard to do and Bill Bill Hayter,
Speaker 5: who does does It's not so like they're all gone.
Speaker 5: So I think the last time they did that was
Speaker 5: that's Tucker Man, look at you, your ban Tooker fan.
Speaker 5: You don't even know.
Speaker 7: I didn't even know he's black. He's a little black
Speaker 7: and black I'm not to meet him like black girls.
Speaker 5: That's not the way.
Speaker 6: They stopped there, they stopped, they stopped there.
Speaker 5: Look get your you're right, that's right.
Speaker 1: We're supposed to blind date you and all that stuff
Speaker 1: like I got now. Okay, well we'll see how it
Speaker 1: works in five months, in time for Valentine's Day.
Speaker 5: How's your things going with your boot quest? Love? Still
Speaker 5: my Yeah, I'm still bowed up.
Speaker 6: We're taking we're still winning.
Speaker 5: Second, I love your code talk, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 5: of course is very shocked that I'm dating a black woman.
Speaker 7: I've been dating pat her Head too, like like one
Speaker 7: of the ones that pat her Head and get bread.
Speaker 5: Yes, we're going to Hawaii. Okaye, we said, what's up? Yes,
Speaker 5: I will tell Shep. You said, hello, oh ship Hawaii.
Speaker 5: I've never been to Hawaiian You gotta go, you.
Speaker 6: Got to go.
Speaker 5: I've never been on a vacation.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I will introduce you to Sheep Gordon, who's the you know,
Speaker 1: the vacation whisper.
Speaker 5: Okay, oh yeah, I would. I would love that you've
Speaker 5: been on an Actually, you've never been on a vacation.
Speaker 5: I've never been on a plane that wasn't like for
Speaker 5: a work since you started doing this, since I started
Speaker 5: doing it. I don't think the first vacation was what
Speaker 5: for when that first meet Gordon four or five years ago. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I think my first one was tried like twenty fourteen thirteen,
Speaker 5: I'm on tap New York. My idea for a vacation
Speaker 5: that was like to not have to do anything, like
Speaker 5: I don't have to pack a bag or I don't
Speaker 5: have to be anywhere. Oh you can, I can vacation
Speaker 5: at my house if all y'all motherfucker's league like that.
Speaker 5: That's exactly right. It's funny, you know.
Speaker 1: You know the group Rockhampton, Yeah, sort of roots Generation
Speaker 1: to See or whatever. They they only have one like
Speaker 1: one record out, and already they're like taking a vacation
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, like working on the new record.
Speaker 6: And I'm like, you were shaming the youre mirror as
Speaker 6: the Elder Like no, I'm just.
Speaker 5: Like, wait, who does that? Like you? But that I
Speaker 5: just heard them yesterday for the first time ever. It's
Speaker 5: so crazy that you even said they was playing a
Speaker 5: song on the bar and I thought it was I
Speaker 5: thought it was a j rock song. One of the
Speaker 5: guys kind of Ryan fans. Sounds like rock Christian rock.
Speaker 5: It's weird because when I told them it's like seven niggames. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's like seven or eight of them. They're black and white.
Speaker 5: It's like a Benettone ad of Jen.
Speaker 6: Reference.
Speaker 5: It's just we get it. Well, what's the new benine
Speaker 5: ad Mountain Dew commercial? Okay, there no, But what's weird
Speaker 5: is that.
Speaker 1: What's weird is that who put me onto Mecca from
Speaker 1: Diggable Planets like her kids loved them.
Speaker 5: So I looked at them and then like we got
Speaker 5: them on the show. But the thing was because of
Speaker 5: a it's weird. His name is a mirror. Two, they
Speaker 5: kind of had a me too moment.
Speaker 1: Backstage at the show or before, not tonight's show, at
Speaker 1: their show, okay, so they had to kick a member out.
Speaker 1: And then when they came on our show, it you know,
Speaker 1: I'm expecting these seven rambunctious like flying all over the place. Uh,
Speaker 1: And they did the most emo depressed like they sat
Speaker 1: on the floor like a bonfire like with crime millennial
Speaker 1: tiers about like and you know, and that was the
Speaker 1: jam they did. I used to know they didn't do
Speaker 1: the jam. They decided that they pulled the They pulled
Speaker 1: the and they called an audible and.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, you can have to. You know,
Speaker 5: Jimmy's looking at me like, is this a group Jimmy
Speaker 5: hit you with? That's your man? Exactly? That your man?
Speaker 5: Oh man? Really up brock camp? Was it cool?
Speaker 6: People do that?
Speaker 5: I want them, Yes, I I want them to come
Speaker 5: back and do what I.
Speaker 8: Exactly.
Speaker 7: You said you more of a music person than you
Speaker 7: are watching me. Of course you're watch I love music well,
Speaker 7: because music I'm in, I'm in. I don't know how
Speaker 7: it works. Well, comedy I know how it works, so
Speaker 7: it's not that interesting.
Speaker 5: It's the same.
Speaker 8: But music, I'm like, I'm blown away.
Speaker 5: By that rocking lately listening, oh man, I don't like
Speaker 5: new stuff.
Speaker 8: They don't have to be making music for me.
Speaker 5: Like what's your era? And that's like, are you like
Speaker 5: Man Midnight, your Neptune Switsch beat era?
Speaker 8: That's my era technically, but I like the era right
Speaker 8: before that. I like the ninety five ninety six.
Speaker 5: I like you're aumatic yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what
Speaker 5: you know what a gang star is? Okay, you know
Speaker 5: what a gang yo? This is? This is bizarre, you know,
Speaker 5: Like I was literally that same bottle. I was listening
Speaker 5: to Brockhand for the first time. They was playing Guru
Speaker 5: jazmatads Wow, and I was like, jazzmatass. It was an
Speaker 5: Irish bar called Deacon Brodie's and they was playing Guru jazmatas.
Speaker 5: Wait where I was like in New York? In New
Speaker 5: York and.
Speaker 1: Randomly, what's up of you guys going to random bars
Speaker 1: because nobody cares about you and an Irish bar, no
Speaker 1: one gives a fuck about who you are?
Speaker 5: Fine, I'm telling you, they don't bother you. It's anything
Speaker 5: collegy or anything young and hip. You gotta wear a
Speaker 5: fucking pub Oh they don't. They could care less. They're
Speaker 5: playing music, they know who you are, and they're just like,
Speaker 5: so what, and you're fine. I love it. That's the
Speaker 5: one aspect of thirty rock folklore that I'm kind I'm
Speaker 5: not mad I missed out on it because I don't
Speaker 5: want a habit or anything, but I'm looking for.
Speaker 8: Like you do it every day. You can't develop a
Speaker 8: habit because.
Speaker 5: Able to navigate like they're supposed to be, like Jim Belushi,
Speaker 5: you know, messing around with Jane Curtin in the hallway
Speaker 5: with heroin and you know.
Speaker 1: Like I'm looking for like the rock stars. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: that era that she can't exist Normal everyone's at.
Speaker 5: Whole Foods and you know, yeah, everybody's giant salad Amazon.
Speaker 9: Steve is like Steve is throwing me under the bus
Speaker 9: again just to end the episode in a way that
Speaker 9: you're going to feel happy about yourself.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Steve, I am, I have a.
Speaker 5: Question for you. Okay, just circling back here to weekend update. Okay,
Speaker 5: I mentioned Seth as your ghost. Who's your all time favorite? Normal? Norm?
Speaker 5: I love Norm only because Norm knew it was funny,
Speaker 5: even if the audience did. And I love that freedom
Speaker 5: that Norm. And like he he would tell a joke
Speaker 5: like straight down the back. He wouldn't budge and it
Speaker 5: would get almost like worse than nothing. He was, but
Speaker 5: he didn't care. Like at home watching it, it was hysterical.
Speaker 5: That's another thing that we had to that you have
Speaker 5: to learn at the show is you're playing the studio
Speaker 5: and then you're playing the camera as well. It cuts through,
Speaker 5: something could kill in the room and nobody at homes
Speaker 5: laughing like it's a different it's a it's a weird
Speaker 5: kind of dynamic that you have just learning doing norm
Speaker 5: was kind of the master of it. He knew what
Speaker 5: was funny, even if the audience. He wouldn't even do
Speaker 5: a dress rehearsal something. He wouldn't do a run through jokes.
Speaker 5: He wouldn't run through his jokes to let you know,
Speaker 5: like what you he couldn't say. He would just do
Speaker 5: it for the audience, kind of the way stand ups do.
Speaker 5: That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 1: It's a small suggestion. One of the things about watching
Speaker 1: the show in the studio is the volume is so low, yes.
Speaker 5: Because we're not we're miked for the camera, we're not
Speaker 5: for the crowd, right, yeah, And.
Speaker 1: It's almost like you're like hearing your natural voice, but
Speaker 1: from like one hundred and twenty feet away, you know.
Speaker 5: And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Like some shows that I've seen in person, I'll be like,
Speaker 1: I'm all right, and then I'll go home and watch
Speaker 1: it the next night or yeah, DVR or whatever. I'm like, Yo,
Speaker 1: that was hilarious, And I'm realizing that shows SNL is
Speaker 1: definitely more hilarious on television than it is.
Speaker 7: Plus in the audience, you're sitting really far back, so
Speaker 7: you can't see your face, your facial expressions and when
Speaker 7: we can update.
Speaker 6: Sometimes I didn't know it only went once. I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: I'm not.
Speaker 5: They have TVs where you can kind of see a
Speaker 5: little bit better butt, but it is. It's true though,
Speaker 5: sometimes even if you have the monitor, sometimes you're just
Speaker 5: trying to watch it happen live and you can't really
Speaker 5: get there.
Speaker 6: If I watched the monitor sitting down.
Speaker 8: Yeah that's true. But yeah, good point the whole I.
Speaker 7: Feel the concert. Sometimes if you that far away, your
Speaker 7: eye is always on a monitor.
Speaker 5: What am I doing here about stories? That's why don't
Speaker 5: like going to football games. I go to the football
Speaker 5: game and I'm the Dumbo tron. I'm like, I could
Speaker 5: just be comfortable. I don't have to be next to
Speaker 5: two races.
Speaker 8: I really done. I could do this at home now.
Speaker 1: The fun, or at least for you, like the fun
Speaker 1: of SNL, is just the experience of like the first
Speaker 1: the first episode, in the last episode is usually when
Speaker 1: the Benders part happens, like it's dress versal. What a
Speaker 1: thirty ten thirty, and then the show is eleven thirty
Speaker 1: to one, and usually the sad rejects go up to
Speaker 1: seventeen and get sloshed until about one thirty and then
Speaker 1: the after after parties from one thirty t about three
Speaker 1: thirty or four.
Speaker 5: That's another thing now that the Lonely Island is left,
Speaker 5: like there's no one. They came and disrupted the after
Speaker 5: party system.
Speaker 1: Whereas they started throwing their own after parties, and then
Speaker 1: there was like the cool kids'll call it, that's the
Speaker 1: rap group name they you know, like when you see
Speaker 1: like SNL comedy video diox, Like.
Speaker 5: They really brought the viral video.
Speaker 1: Damn, near invented it because Sunday was the viral video,
Speaker 1: so they invented the viral video.
Speaker 5: So but they would have their own cool.
Speaker 1: Kids parties versus the teamsters and the other people that
Speaker 1: can't play their games.
Speaker 5: But then when they left, no one was feeling that void,
Speaker 5: like you should be should it just be one party?
Speaker 5: I feel like you and Pete, we need to throw
Speaker 5: your own. Actually, your birthday party was lit. It was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but that was the last. That was the last party. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: we hung out, but I just don't I don't go.
Speaker 5: I don't even go to the parties. You have responsibilities.
Speaker 5: And it's not even so much that like you, it's
Speaker 5: you're so exhausted after a show, like just mentally exhausted,
Speaker 5: and then you're around all these mentally exhausted I don't
Speaker 5: want to be around them, not even like at a
Speaker 5: this but just.
Speaker 8: Like everybody just wants to talk about the show.
Speaker 5: It's like you've done this and you've been waiting for
Speaker 5: so long for this ship to be over, and then
Speaker 5: now somebody wants to talk to them about it, and
Speaker 5: you're like, I want to go home and enjoy my Sunday.
Speaker 5: I would say, so Sunday is that you're really your
Speaker 5: only day to Sunday is your one day, and I
Speaker 5: would you would lose your Sunday because Yo, when they
Speaker 5: drink at the after after part, they drink to like
Speaker 5: eight nine t morn. You might come home at one afternoon. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's literally all frigging So the Sunday you're just sleep
Speaker 5: the entire day and then next thing, you know, your
Speaker 5: Monday Monday. So you have time for I can well,
Speaker 5: I mean everybody's got ten minutes. Wait, why would you wait?
Speaker 5: Wait that was a great wait over fifteen minutes if
Speaker 5: your mark literally the show on that note, Michael Jay,
Speaker 5: I thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Wait the fact I was really proud of the fact
Speaker 1: that this was going to be an effect free show,
Speaker 1: that Michael was going.
Speaker 7: To be our I wanted to get to the bottom
Speaker 7: of that, because you know, Michael j woe black man,
Speaker 7: he's single, and you got to get to the.
Speaker 5: Bottom of excuse me, mi one, nothing I am and
Speaker 5: so are you. You're into that, right, Michael.
Speaker 1: I thank you very much for coming to our show.
Speaker 1: It's so much fun. Thank you, thank you, and good
Speaker 1: good luck on your future endeavors.
Speaker 6: And can you say I love black women.
Speaker 5: I'm just love black women.
Speaker 6: There we go, black listen.
Speaker 5: I just wanted this is why you were talking to
Speaker 5: anyway on be aut Sugar Steve Face. Hey Bill, I'm
Speaker 5: very sorry the other Bill was up. All right, I'll
Speaker 5: see you all in the next go around. M h
Speaker 5: of course.
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