WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Michael Che 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:03.800 Of Course, Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This 0:00:03.840 --> 0:00:08.680 classic episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:09.240 --> 0:00:12.639 Hey, this is Sugar Steve and this week's QLs Classics 0:00:12.720 --> 0:00:16.920 guest is SML Royalty and stand up comedian Michael Cha 0:00:17.120 --> 0:00:21.840 who joins Team Supreme to discuss his anecdotes and his accolades. 0:00:22.360 --> 0:00:26.160 This was originally released on September twelfth, twenty eighteen. 0:00:26.520 --> 0:00:43.800 Enjoy Supremo Sun Supremo role called Supremo Sun Sun Supremo 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.360 role called Subprimo. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:52.120 Sun Sun Supremo Ro. 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Yeah, I don't 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.400 know how to do this. Yeah, help me all quest. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:20.040 Supremo Supremo Role, Supremo Supremo Role, Supremo Supremo Rome. 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:22.200 See you got the hang of it. 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:22.919 No, I liked it. 0:02:23.160 --> 0:02:26.279 Yeah yeah. The rhymed. 0:02:29.400 --> 0:02:30.720 An electric Lady studio. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.519 When when you're when you're. 0:02:34.320 --> 0:02:37.400 When you're a student of thirty Rock University, you have 0:02:37.600 --> 0:02:40.919 to think, quick on your feet game like what yeah 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:45.560 you know, no slapsches at thirty Rock. Anyway, Ladies and gentlemen, 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:49.200 welcome to another edition of Course Love Supreme News, of 0:02:49.280 --> 0:02:49.799 Course Love. 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:54.800 We have teams Supreme. It's probably this is our blackest episode. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:59.440 This is the blackest episode. Yeah yeah yeah, Steve. Well yeah, 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:04.840 but Steve call me Tyrone today. Steve. You know you 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.280 got the sugars. And actually I. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.840 Got the strangest call this morning. My doctor called me 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.440 and said I was healthy. What yeah, I mean I 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:13.800 still have. 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.040 Remission. I still got sugars. 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.000 But but I went the other day, took some blood 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:21.320 tests and she called and she had like this this 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:24.720 amazing voice of like she couldn't believe it. She was like, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:29.600 I'm so happy to be calling you right now. I'm 0:03:30.440 --> 0:03:33.400 I'm like, what's up. She's like, you're healthy, like with 0:03:33.560 --> 0:03:35.600 a question and an exclamation point. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:39.720 I was like, not shill of hands. But when he 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:42.000 said that, I was a little slightly disappointed. 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:43.800 I thought something else. 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:47.080 I feel like there's such an achievement that no, no, 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:48.800 if you I'm so committed to us. 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:50.000 That he got blacked to. 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:53.080 What you don't know is that Quest gave sugar Steve 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:53.680 the sugars. 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:59.320 Really, Steve's been my engineering for twenty years, and I 0:03:59.360 --> 0:04:02.400 guess he had to. That was my bonus. That was 0:04:02.440 --> 0:04:04.480 my bonus one year for Hank he. 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:08.320 Had after my diet, and so you know, the entire 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.560 summer of soul food literally gave him. 0:04:12.440 --> 0:04:14.920 And then you know, so, well, I'm happy that you 0:04:15.280 --> 0:04:15.880 you're healthy. 0:04:16.240 --> 0:04:19.560 Yeah, I mean relatively. You know you seem thrilled about it. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:21.479 By the way, Well, it was one of those moments. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:23.680 I was actually sitting on the toilet and I got 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.680 and I got the call from my doctor. I was like, well, 0:04:25.720 --> 0:04:28.520 this is it, you know, like this is where it 0:04:28.720 --> 0:04:30.160 is where I'm going to get the news. Right, no, 0:04:31.120 --> 0:04:33.240 and uh and and she gave me good news. I 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.040 was like, a great, keep keep keep them feet. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:41.000 Do you have another man? Do you have another moniker? Now? Like, well, 0:04:41.040 --> 0:04:42.960 are there any other black diseases I could get, Like. 0:04:45.480 --> 0:04:48.719 There's out actually sickle cell exclusive to really black people? 0:04:48.760 --> 0:04:49.000 You can. 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:53.640 Yeah, hypertension, hyper very black. 0:04:54.000 --> 0:04:56.279 Yeah, so you know, anyway does sound great? 0:04:56.360 --> 0:04:56.799 And rhythm? 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:59.640 Mm hmm, Well that's not a disease. 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:02.880 Get shot by the police, possible police. 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:08.960 We have all list institutional racism anyway, yesterday. 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:15.000 Yeah, it's not only the first African American host of 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:16.120 Are we still using that? 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.080 Or we're just black? I like black, I like black. 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:22.840 All right, ladies, I guess it is not only the 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:29.960 first black host of EST and LS esn l's institution 0:05:30.920 --> 0:05:31.640 we cannot date. 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:33.320 But uh. 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:36.880 Also, actually you're double first because I believe that you're 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.960 the first black host of the twenty eighteen. 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:42.960 Or the Emmys. No way, I don't think I'm the 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:48.760 first black hosted. He did the Oscars, right, yeah, he 0:05:48.839 --> 0:05:52.120 did the Oscar Chris. I don't know. 0:05:52.320 --> 0:05:53.680 I'll be honest with you, I really don't know. 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:57.040 I believe and I believe that you're the first black host. 0:05:57.400 --> 0:05:59.920 Oh man, George Lopez was probably the closest we got. 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:01.680 He might have got closed Yeah he did, Yeah, he did, 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.159 close up, I got what. You know, it's kind of weird. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.320 In twenty eighteen, we're still celebrating first first black shout 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:08.640 out to. 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:13.400 Beyonce and right, first black coach, first black did she's 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:17.040 the first black black woman to yes to headline Coachella. 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:19.840 No kidding, yeah, no kidding, wow. 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:24.560 Yeah, but also the Vogue issue oh yeah, and her 0:06:24.640 --> 0:06:27.440 getting uh uh, I'm sorry. 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:28.680 Chust Love, you didn't turn your phone down? 0:06:28.920 --> 0:06:29.440 Is my lawyer? 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.480 Your doctor called you this morning called, so probably not 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:39.720 a lawsuit, yeah, but basically, uh, Vogue just used uh, 0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:44.960 their first the first African American photographer for the cover. 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:49.320 And it's one hundred n they did. Yeah, and it's 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:51.840 one hundred and eight year history. I didn't even know 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:55.440 that Vogue was around and yeah, yeah that long. 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:56.600 That's why that Black issue. 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:58.520 You know, there's an actual black issue of Vogue that 0:06:58.560 --> 0:07:00.800 came out like five ten, five years I. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.000 Think I remember, but that was the Italian exactly. Yo. 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:07.040 It was funny because I thought that that's when I 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:11.120 was heavy on my eBay join so I ordered, like 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.520 Reek's wife to Reek's wife was like, yo, this is 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.080 the most historical thing. It's from the eBay Golden So 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:22.840 I purchased like twenty five issues of that of that thing, 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:24.360 and now I can't find. 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:27.360 Anyway. This is how we do the show. We don't 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:30.640 even introduce the guest until happen. Oh yeah, I'm with it, so. 0:07:32.160 --> 0:07:43.160 Up, welcome to the show. Ig Story sneaker God, I 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:49.480 gotta say, I mean, like, I know Clark Kent and 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:53.200 New York knows that Clark Kent is the god of 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:57.080 sneaker collecting, like he got me my job at Nike 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:58.160 when I was working for Nike. 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.640 That's how much of a sneaker god is. 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.520 But I will say that I envy no one Ah 0:08:04.120 --> 0:08:07.160 and their sneaker collection more than you. 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.480 Like you're a king stunt you. 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.040 Okay, but when you when you you know, and I'm 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:20.120 often at thirty rock watching you guys, like, do you 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.360 often like choose your sneakers Like yeo, I'm a stunt 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.720 on I'm a stunt on a hole tonight. 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.040 I know. I never well, only I'll break out certain 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.040 ones for certain people. I'm like, oh, this is gonna 0:08:30.080 --> 0:08:33.040 be a fun one. I can't wait, but like I don't. 0:08:33.280 --> 0:08:35.720 When I was a kid, it was never really the sneakers. 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:39.360 It was always like just fresh sneakers. It was always 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:44.520 about you, but they was fresh. They was like all right. 0:08:44.559 --> 0:08:46.040 So like for me, it was always I had to 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.839 buy a lot because I had to keep them fresh. 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:51.240 So I to keep them clean. I would just buy 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.600 four or five pick Okay, that's what I was gonna ask. 0:08:53.679 --> 0:08:57.160 Because your jawings always look fresh out the box. Yeah, 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:59.800 that was that was always the growing up like that 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:02.760 the thing. Your sneakers had to be freshn't I didn't care. 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:04.760 Socks and draws, yeah. 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:11.000 Yeah, you describe you have one today, mister. Check what's 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:12.000 going on here on your feet? 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:14.319 These are and these are actually beaters. These are these 0:09:14.360 --> 0:09:17.439 are Concord elevens. But these is like I think the 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.400 twenty eleven ones and these is like I probably will 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:25.079 these like seven times. Nah, but these aren't even like 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.079 I got some in the box. That's like never never 0:09:28.200 --> 0:09:31.440 had a factory. Yeah, yeah, factory. You can hear him 0:09:31.440 --> 0:09:33.360 snap when you walk, you hit a little the crack 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:37.160 a little bit. J's don't hurt your feet, no, Jay's 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:41.200 there's no, Jay, I found like they're comfortable slippers. 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:43.320 Them, they're the most comfortable sneakers. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:43.439 You know. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.920 I don't like is the like there's certain sneakers that 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:50.679 now that they have like the sock kind of those 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.520 hurt a little bit because it just feels like I'm 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.760 walking on the floor like the Jay's the soul is 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.880 so actually made for like I feel like I'm in shoes. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:00.160 You know. 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:02.559 The elevens are the ones that like the comfortable ones. 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:04.959 I like the comfortable. The threes are the most comfortable. 0:10:05.000 --> 0:10:06.520 Fly with those because I could take them off and 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.240 put them back on like they mad. I hate both, 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:12.160 y'all right, man, Like I mean, is the only ones. 0:10:12.200 --> 0:10:17.040 I have an illustrious Jordan collection, but I can't wear 0:10:17.120 --> 0:10:19.600 them like absolutely. 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:22.960 No, No, I just work for air. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.880 But the thing one the thing is is like I 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:31.040 have to prepare me wearing rocking some Jordan's, which goes into. 0:10:32.040 --> 0:10:34.360 Shaving my corns off, oh ship. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:40.679 Feet, maybe sleeping upside down so the circulation goes down 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.839 to my foot anything like with the exception of I 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.800 told you about Tony Maiden the guitar roof. Yeah, like 0:10:49.040 --> 0:10:52.520 he just to fit some cowboy boots from Japan. He 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:58.520 had his feet shaved, shaved with and length just so that. 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:07.840 He could fit a pair of of Cowboy dues. Oh yeah, damn. Anyway, Michael, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.640 it's beautiful. Yeah, it's sneaky. Games on point bro. I 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.800 always I always, love, always love fresh kicks. 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.240 You're not wearing those under the desk though, Yeah you are, 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.000 no matter why you're wearing the desk. I was like, 0:11:19.040 --> 0:11:20.440 when do we see your sneak unless it's like. 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.599 At the end of the show. As I used to 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:24.480 put my foot on the desk at the end of 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:28.240 episodes and then people but I would put my foot 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.480 on the desk just like as a move to put 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:32.240 your foot on the desk, and people like, you're showing 0:11:32.280 --> 0:11:35.200 off your sneakers. Like, no, I just always wear ill 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:36.880 sneakers so it looks like I'm showing them up. But 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:38.400 I was literally just putting my foot on desk. So 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:40.400 I stopped doing it because people thought I was showing 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:42.360 up sneaker. They're like, what're you gonna wear next week? 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.839 And I was like, that's not fun. And then I 0:11:44.920 --> 0:11:47.960 look like like a billboard, you know what I mean? Yeah, 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:51.960 that's not Yeah. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:54.360 See, I'll be the last one too, Like you doing that? 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.480 So are you? Are you a native New Yorker? Yeah, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:01.839 I'm Lower East Side? You living there? Now? You were born? No, 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:05.200 I was born. My whole family is from the same project. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:09.560 I'm like a legacy. Yeah, like we're from the project 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.800 my grandparents? Wait, which which which one Smith projects? Like 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:17.160 I'm sorry, I'm new to New York. You don't you 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.880 know right? Not giving your dress away? No, I don't 0:12:19.920 --> 0:12:25.240 have projects? Okay, okay, like what address the projects? Well, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.760 like what cross streets? This is a Catherine slip, like 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:32.800 between Catherine and Madison is the whole project? My whole 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.720 family is from like what they call the Dark Side. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:37.480 So that's twenty one age. 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.480 Because I was saying when we shot what they do, 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.079 we had to go to the projects to shoot a 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.640 rooftop scene. And the first thing that I was thinking, 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:49.920 I was like, yo, this is like the Hugs and 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:55.079 Kisses project, Like yeah, it was old Grandmothers or whatever like, 0:12:55.160 --> 0:12:57.040 but it was a late nineties so I was expecting, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:12:58.680 Wait where was it. 0:13:00.679 --> 0:13:02.080 Lower like Lower Manhattan? 0:13:03.000 --> 0:13:06.680 And I remember there was a lot of projects. 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.719 There was concern from the label the hell there was 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:12.600 like man concern from the label and you know when 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:14.840 we got there, they were like prepas, like okay, guys, 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:18.440 make sure security, you know, because we thought we were 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:20.120 going to the projects to shoot the scene. 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:22.560 Yeah, when we got there, we were just like, wait 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.120 a minute, it's not project enough. 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:26.880 Yeah, yeah, there there's a project. We used to go 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:30.240 to the like specifically for Halloween, and it was just 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.120 all old people. You would go there and just yeah 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:37.719 and nobody like visited them sadly, so they was like 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.240 happier about Halloween, and we was when we was kids. 0:13:40.240 --> 0:13:42.520 We would go over there and we'd rack up. It 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.200 was great. It was awesome. We're not from you're from 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.640 projects in Philly. The Philly do projects. It's like roadhouses 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:52.920 and yeah, roadhouses. 0:13:53.280 --> 0:13:56.079 Treek makes fun because my father we were the only 0:13:56.240 --> 0:13:59.320 house that never got broken into because my dad would 0:13:59.360 --> 0:14:04.400 put like security ride iron gates around our entire crib, 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:10.200 so it looked like I lived in a prison. But yeah, 0:14:10.280 --> 0:14:12.439 I mean we were the only house on the block 0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:15.080 with like three thousand records and all this recording equipment 0:14:15.120 --> 0:14:15.959 and drums and stuff. 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.960 So my dad's like, nope, you know that makes sense. 0:14:20.480 --> 0:14:24.280 It was like Fort Knox, you know. So okay, So 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:29.480 being born in Manhattan, Like what led you to entertainment? 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:36.160 Uh, that's crazy. I mean it wasn't entertainment to me. 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:39.400 It was specifically stand up comedy like I would watch 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:45.240 Bring the Pain, I would watch Carlin's HBOS and Damon 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.520 Wayne's HBO special, Like those are specific specials that stood 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.840 out to me, like when I was a kid growing 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.320 up and wanting to just do that. I just love 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:57.000 the way you know what I mean? It was like 0:14:57.120 --> 0:15:06.480 it was every class clowns, Like what thirteen? Okay, yeah, 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.400 I'm thirty five, so that that's like like mid nineties. Yeah, 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:14.920 so you the first das still standing that you first, 0:15:15.200 --> 0:15:17.200 the first Demi Wings I remember was when he had 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:19.360 on the yellow shirt and the brown had I think 0:15:19.400 --> 0:15:21.000 that was HBO One Night Stand. 0:15:21.040 --> 0:15:22.920 I think I think it was like a half hour. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:25.920 That was a half hour. Thene family was like legendary 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:28.080 because for one, they was from Lower Manhattan. They was 0:15:28.160 --> 0:15:31.160 from Chelsea Projects, I think, and then I remember like 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:34.160 Hollywood Shuffle and I'm Gonna Get Your Sucker and Robert 0:15:34.200 --> 0:15:35.240 Towns and specials and all of that. 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:38.239 So the Waynes was like already it was like Eddie Murphy. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.880 And then Damie Wayne's like right under. You know, Okay, 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:44.400 I gotta know, I'm the youngest by the way of seven, 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:47.120 so we was getting Yeah, I was getting all of 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:50.040 that stuff immediately, you know what I mean. I was 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:52.320 in the house. I was in the house full of teenagers, 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.600 so all that stuff. Yeah, Like I don't remember the 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.360 first time I heard hip hop. Like there stories of 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.400 me as a baby, sinking a lot of dotty and 0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:01.000 all that stuff. 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.960 Like, Okay, it's like that usually usually the baby of 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.520 the family of a large family, you know, it's probably 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.520 I was the business of being sucked it all right. 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.800 No, I was asking, like, do a lot of those 0:16:13.880 --> 0:16:19.160 specials age well, because I try not watch nothing ages well. 0:16:19.240 --> 0:16:22.600 In twenty eighteen, like half the ship that we laughed 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:25.680 at in the nineties would get fucking I mean, Nigga's 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:28.840 writing petitions on Twitter and shit absolutely carling stuff from 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:30.520 the nineties ages very well. 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:32.640 Yeah, it depends on the comedian, right, because like, Mom's 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.040 mainly I was listening to her as a kid, but 0:16:34.120 --> 0:16:36.360 that was like what thirty forty years ago by the 0:16:36.440 --> 0:16:36.720 time you. 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:37.680 Listen to those tapes. 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:41.560 Yeah, yeah, Mom's mainly. Yeah, Colin Wasca, this was kind 0:16:41.560 --> 0:16:45.280 of more like commentary, Like it was more social commentary, 0:16:45.480 --> 0:16:49.120 like yeah, Eddie Murray, like the first yeah raw is 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:55.400 like nigga, like first first ten minutes that I was 0:16:55.480 --> 0:16:57.440 like thirty, right, I was something. 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:02.000 I was thirty something when I first watched Deliric, yeah, like, 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:04.520 because you know, I grew up in ain't no Eddie 0:17:04.560 --> 0:17:07.320 Murphy in this house, so I didn't get to see 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.080 none of that stuff growing up. 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:12.560 And then finally on a tour of bus, you know, 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:13.720 they showed Delirious and. 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:20.119 It was weird because I wanted, you know, Delirious is 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:23.280 in the mount rushmore than everyone's comedy. 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:27.440 But it didn't hit me that way one because not 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:32.359 like a illmatic right, and you're like, how right? But 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:33.119 I get it. 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:37.240 But the thing was, because that was my introduction to Delirious. 0:17:37.480 --> 0:17:40.720 Was everyone else doing Delirious, so I knew. 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:44.800 And very funny. 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:48.560 I knew all that based on classroom kids doing it 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.520 and rappers sampling it and all that stuff. So but 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:56.399 when I finally watched it, it's funny you say that 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.560 because I know, you know the same way that who 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:03.359 was indifferent to Midnight Marauders? Uh like Loupe or whatever, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:09.760 Like I'm probably that ways I respect delirious and know 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:11.400 where it stands historically. 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.119 Oh, I get it. I was like I was like 0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.040 that for prior, Like I didn't really get a lot 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:19.119 of people are like that. I was like, like live 0:18:19.200 --> 0:18:21.080 in the sensens trip. I was like, okay, but to me, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:23.320 he was funniest in movies, so like, which way is 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:26.120 up is? My ship? Was funny Because critics pan off 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:31.960 his movie, I think with Richard Pryory was copied so much, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.040 and Eddie Murphy is true too, They've been copied so 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:38.600 much that it's kind of hard to understand the context 0:18:39.320 --> 0:18:41.520 of when he was doing it. He was the only 0:18:41.680 --> 0:18:45.359 guy doing Yeah, how revolutionary was so it's kind of 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.720 hard to understand that if you're not there watching it. 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:50.280 Because I used to say the same thing. I was like, 0:18:50.280 --> 0:18:53.280 I don't really understand why Richard Pryor it's so much better, 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.000 greater than everybody. Herald, that's so much greater. And then 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.639 I started kind of learning more about comedy and learn 0:18:59.680 --> 0:19:02.800 more about who else was happening at the time. You're like, oh, okay, 0:19:02.960 --> 0:19:05.560 next to those guys, he must have looked like a Martian, 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:07.720 you know what I mean, Like he was like the 0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.680 idea of you know, him doing the wining on the 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:15.560 junkie and like street characters like you know, Dick Dick 0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:19.680 Gregory really wasn't doing that in his comedy Noo was 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.119 more yeah exactly. So, Yeah, Red Fox was set up 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.439 punch a lot of a lot of like actual jokes, 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.560 you know, joke yeah, joke jokes. Richard Pryor. That was like, 0:19:29.640 --> 0:19:32.520 I mean, this is he's in the Chitlin circuit in 0:19:32.800 --> 0:19:36.320 early nineteen seventy black you know what I mean, clubs 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.720 talking about the first time he ever blew a dude, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:42.040 and it's working, like you it'd be hard to do 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.399 that in a black man now, and he's got people laughing, 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:49.200 and it's like the kind of thing that he was 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.920 doing was insane when you think about the context. 0:19:52.640 --> 0:19:58.000 You know that Cosby actually released two Blue Humor records 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:59.359 that people don't know about. 0:19:59.600 --> 0:20:03.440 What Yeah, there's one joint and came out on laugh 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:07.560 or some ship like one the one people who don't 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.080 oh Blue Humor is like dirty like Curson, like yeah, 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.000 fussing cussin. Yeah. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.200 In seventy four, there was like a I mean, he 0:20:17.200 --> 0:20:19.400 didn't get that deep into it, but the other one 0:20:19.760 --> 0:20:24.359 in eighty eighty one he spoke at uh. It was 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:30.000 more like him speaking at some prison in Pennsylvania. And 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:35.960 it wasn't comedy per se. But they made the record 0:20:36.040 --> 0:20:37.880 cover it looked like it was like Bill. 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:42.119 Cosby and hard always hard hitted boys. And I was like, oh, 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:43.920 let me get this record, and then there was just 0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:47.840 like him him being real, like you know that sort 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:52.960 of thing like that whoop. I saw his last special 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:55.960 that never came out Netflix won or yeah, I think 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.600 it was Netflix. It was. I think it was called 0:20:58.080 --> 0:20:59.320 Cosby seventy seven. 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:01.320 When he's coming at us, like coming at us. 0:21:02.080 --> 0:21:03.600 No, it's actually he's actually not. 0:21:03.840 --> 0:21:06.679 It's well what I saw he did like two hours 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.400 of I guess what was going to be a ninety 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.560 minute special or whatever, and it was Robert Townsend was 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:14.040 directing it, and they did it at I was doing 0:21:14.080 --> 0:21:16.879 shows in San Francisco, and it was like there was 0:21:16.920 --> 0:21:18.840 an early tape and like a six o'clock tape, and 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.119 I watched it and went and did my show, and 0:21:21.160 --> 0:21:22.800 it was it was like good. It was. It was 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:24.960 kind of loose, It wasn't you could tell like he 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:26.480 was still trying stuff for whatever. 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.960 Oddly but it's like a month after that everything happened. 0:21:31.720 --> 0:21:34.680 He was talking a lot. It was weird because he 0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:39.080 was talking a lot about like like growing up, like 0:21:39.200 --> 0:21:42.680 his first experiences dating. Yeah, it was kind of it 0:21:42.800 --> 0:21:44.960 was like blueish. It wasn't blue, but it was like 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.639 blue for Cosby. It was like it was like an 0:21:47.680 --> 0:21:50.160 old man. I was like, you know what, I'm gonna 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:51.000 let it loose a little bit. 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:52.359 But it was. 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.400 It was good though. It was like kind of like excited, 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:56.960 you know, I was kind of excited to see. 0:21:56.840 --> 0:21:58.960 What I was. I was interested. I mean, you know, 0:21:59.200 --> 0:22:01.520 obviously everything that happened to understood why, but I was 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:04.040 always curious to see that special when it came out, 0:22:04.040 --> 0:22:06.840 because how many seventy seven year old comedians. 0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:09.680 Yeah you don't get that perspective. 0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:13.439 But yeah, yeah, no, yeah, it ain't the same. Well 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:20.440 you can still see him, uh he he's still just 0:22:20.560 --> 0:22:22.119 kind of popping up. Also, I heard he was doing 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:27.040 course this jazz club in Philly a lot Cosby. Yeah, Yeah, 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:32.480 it's not I guess the people that own the old bar. Yeah, 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.720 it's they have one join that's kind of uh not 0:22:37.119 --> 0:22:39.600 Balla Kinwood. But he's in the bird. 0:22:39.760 --> 0:22:43.479 They showed a video of him like recently, like at 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:44.760 that spot or whatever. 0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:47.880 After everything came down a couple of months ago. 0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:49.480 Yeah, it was just he was just out there and 0:22:49.680 --> 0:22:51.199 he just yeah, yeah, he. 0:22:51.320 --> 0:22:52.400 Was doing Hicky Bird. 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:53.679 I think crazy. 0:22:57.119 --> 0:23:00.800 That's the only safe cutty guy, it really is. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:07.760 So what were your first steps into taking your comedy series, 0:23:08.640 --> 0:23:10.840 Like one too many trips at the principal's office or. 0:23:11.000 --> 0:23:13.920 Like, no, none of that. I was I got it late. 0:23:14.040 --> 0:23:16.159 I was like I always wanted to try it. I 0:23:16.240 --> 0:23:19.639 always always wanted to try it. Was like they had 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:22.119 like comedy classes. The thing about stand up is if 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.840 you don't know any comedians, it might as well be 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:27.760 on the moon because you don't have no idea how 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:30.040 to do it. So I would just google like how 0:23:30.119 --> 0:23:32.840 to do it and find like different open mics or whatever, 0:23:32.920 --> 0:23:36.399 and it's just literally five dollars, half a pint of 0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.840 E and J and you just go up there. Like 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:41.639 that was literally how it happened. I went to an 0:23:41.640 --> 0:23:43.720 open mic right right down the block from the cellar 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:47.160 on McDougal Street, and I scouted it out one day 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.920 just to watch, and there was like one dude that 0:23:50.080 --> 0:23:53.040 was really good, and everybody else was terrible, And I 0:23:53.160 --> 0:23:55.880 was like, if they're terrible and still doing it, then 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:57.760 I could be that terrible, you know what I mean, 0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.119 Like I could just be that bad and try it. 0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:01.920 Took the pressure off. 0:24:02.119 --> 0:24:03.359 You don't have to be good at it, you know, 0:24:03.640 --> 0:24:06.000 because every time somebody wants to start coming always like 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.800 I don't got no jokes though, Like, yeah, nobody has 0:24:08.920 --> 0:24:09.680 jokes when you start. 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:11.120 That's the whole point. There's no joke. 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:13.200 You're gonna start with that you're gonna end with, you 0:24:13.240 --> 0:24:14.879 know what I mean, it's all gonna you're gonna outgrow 0:24:14.920 --> 0:24:16.720 all of that ship. So it doesn't really matter. Just 0:24:16.800 --> 0:24:20.080 being on stage is what's important. So going there and 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.040 just doing it. I couldn't tell you what I said, 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:24.560 but just being on stage and seeing that perspective of 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:26.520 hearing your voice in the micro I never heard my 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:29.560 voice in a microphone before. Like even that was freaky. 0:24:29.800 --> 0:24:31.000 And you did it with no nerves. 0:24:31.480 --> 0:24:40.840 Of course, you remember something that's just we call it, 0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:47.080 he's got jerk, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. So you went there 0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.040 without a formula, nothing. I went up there with like 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.760 four things that I thought were funny that that would 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.840 make my friends in the car crack up. That wouldn't 0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.320 make anybody else it's outside that car crack up like 0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:02.399 literally nothing. I just wanted to be any Like you 0:25:02.480 --> 0:25:05.600 talk about material you outgrown. Do you remember, I think 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:10.120 like one of the first jokes I had, oh man, 0:25:10.400 --> 0:25:12.480 I think maybe one of the first jokes I had, 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:15.400 I might have even said it that night was something 0:25:15.440 --> 0:25:17.280 about how because it was I remember, was like October, 0:25:17.359 --> 0:25:19.320 it was like the fall, and I was saying, how 0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:24.719 like Jehovah's witnesses don't they don't celebrate Halloween even though 0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.240 they should because that's the one. 0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:31.240 Time people open the door. But it was like like that, 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:33.920 you know, like kind of like a haha, you know, 0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:34.480 like one of those. 0:25:34.600 --> 0:25:37.040 But that's all you need. Just as long as you're 0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.320 comfortable on stage, everything comes, you know what I mean. 0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.000 Like even now you might go on stage with nothing 0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:42.959 and find something. 0:25:43.080 --> 0:25:45.720 You know, So with that first laugh, was it like 0:25:46.280 --> 0:25:51.480 uh a crack high like a yeah, like your first 0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:52.520 real good laugh. 0:25:52.840 --> 0:25:54.280 The first real good laugh. 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.359 Well, you start out only doing open mics, and open 0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:01.720 mics in the city is it's not regular people there, 0:26:01.760 --> 0:26:04.639 it's all other people waiting to go on. So a 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:08.800 lot of the laughs are like, ah, you know, they're 0:26:08.840 --> 0:26:11.040 right back in their book or whatever. Nobody's really there 0:26:11.119 --> 0:26:14.840 to support people, you know. So the first actual show 0:26:14.920 --> 0:26:17.520 I did was what they called a bringer show. That 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:19.840 means you bring five people and then you can perform. 0:26:20.040 --> 0:26:22.480 So you had to pass out flyers in the corner. No, 0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:24.879 you could just get anybody. You can get five friends, 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:28.160 you can get however you want. That's a barker show. Barker. Yeah, yeah, 0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:32.879 that's a wait's barking, now it's barking. You watched you crashing? 0:26:35.160 --> 0:26:37.920 I got, not that I got suckered, but I watched 0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:42.440 crashing and then leaving uh, I forgot who did a 0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:46.040 set at uh Carolines. 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.080 I was leaving Carolines and then I saw the guy 0:26:49.160 --> 0:26:51.879 on the corner and I thought of crashing right, And 0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.040 you know, I was like, all right, let me make 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:56.560 it rain, And I said, dude, and I brought five 0:26:56.640 --> 0:26:57.840 hundred dollars worth of tickets. 0:26:57.920 --> 0:27:02.040 Whoa right? Just you know, I just made his night right, 0:27:02.080 --> 0:27:03.920 And he couldn't believe it. And then I was like 0:27:04.040 --> 0:27:05.680 he and he tried to talk himself out of it, 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:10.040 like no, no, no, tickets, just give me, Like tickets 0:27:10.040 --> 0:27:11.239 are only twenty dollars. That's all. 0:27:11.320 --> 0:27:14.560 I said, dude, give me five hundred dollars worth of tickets. 0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:16.359 And he couldn't understand it. And I was like, I 0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:21.760 watched Crashing, and I understand that this is how that's. 0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:23.720 Actually a terrible, terrible thing you did. 0:27:25.040 --> 0:27:27.200 You know what, because now somebody's gonna be like, yeah, 0:27:27.240 --> 0:27:30.880 we sold out, and nobody's gonna be a sh. 0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:34.560 That's an awful idea. 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.480 No, So what what I was saying is how you 0:27:39.720 --> 0:27:41.639 never had to go that route. No, I never. I 0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.119 never did barking. I never did barking. I mean you 0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:46.520 barked like your own show. Like if you like everybody 0:27:46.600 --> 0:27:48.800 has kind of like a bar show or whatever, that's 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.720 kind of your penance of coming up in comedy, like 0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:52.280 you do my show, do your show kind of thing, 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:54.280 So everybody kind of has like a bar show. And 0:27:54.400 --> 0:27:56.760 then if your if your show's light, you might go 0:27:56.840 --> 0:27:58.440 outside and be like, hey we got a comedy show. 0:27:58.520 --> 0:28:00.440 Hey guys come back, coming back with guys, conversa on 0:28:00.480 --> 0:28:02.320 the back or whatever. But it was never like four tickets. 0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.560 It was always usually like a free show. It was 0:28:04.640 --> 0:28:06.440 just like a thing like I just didn't want. 0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:08.080 To do you know so what you said you watched 0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:09.960 Frashion too though, right, did you watch the show? 0:28:10.080 --> 0:28:12.760 I've seen somebody. I don't really. I watch Food Network 0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:15.119 and Sports Center, Like that's literally. 0:28:17.840 --> 0:28:18.520 I know what it is. 0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:19.320 But I just. 0:28:21.520 --> 0:28:24.680 I think that once now that you're part of the conversation, 0:28:24.960 --> 0:28:27.040 I know what I know how it's made, and I'm 0:28:27.119 --> 0:28:30.040 just like, I can't watch it the way like a 0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.000 regular person can watch. This is why I cannot entertained. 0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:34.719 This is why I feel like I have imposter syndrome, 0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.440 because I feel like people that are really making history 0:28:38.920 --> 0:28:40.720 don't watch history. 0:28:41.480 --> 0:28:45.240 They just make it. Yeah, they make it. And meanwhile, 0:28:45.240 --> 0:28:50.400 I'm like, episode twelve, let's keep that right exactly, well, like, 0:28:50.520 --> 0:28:54.080 can you watch? Can you watch other late night shows? Dude? 0:28:54.400 --> 0:29:00.800 I obsessively like to prepare for that job. Yes, I watch, really, 0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.080 I watch in the mornings. 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.880 I watch. I watched Conan. 0:29:07.000 --> 0:29:09.600 I watch everything to see what they're doing, what their 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.720 bumpers are like with their walk on the songs. So 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:13.640 if no other reason you know what not to do, 0:29:13.840 --> 0:29:16.800 it's like yeah, and then like the guests are on 0:29:16.880 --> 0:29:19.280 the show, like I'm watching their entire series to see 0:29:19.280 --> 0:29:21.600 if I can get something on the character that I 0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:26.520 want saying, like my crack high was who was on 0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:28.480 Chappelle the asker gay dude, uh. 0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:33.600 Mario Mario Canton steam Pipe Valley. 0:29:34.880 --> 0:29:35.240 There you go. 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:39.480 So I did a steam pipe and he almost stopped 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:43.760 the show in tears, like, how do you know about 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.360 like we picked this obscure song from. 0:29:46.960 --> 0:29:48.360 I would have picked that up easy. 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.560 That's a good one. Steam Pipe Valley used to come 0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:54.200 on every like what was like Saturday. It was like 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:55.960 they would play Looney Tunes. It was like this one 0:29:56.080 --> 0:29:58.760 man sketch show and it was all for kids, and 0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.440 they played Looney Tune in between them. So like, if 0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:03.520 you wanted to watch Bugs Bunny, you watch steam Pipe Ali. 0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:04.680 It's going on like Channel nine. 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.000 Yeah, it is Mario Canton. 0:30:09.120 --> 0:30:12.560 Once that like and all this is the Jimmy sagrin 0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.800 because it's basically like, hey, guys, just play the three 0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:16.080 second song and let my guests. 0:30:16.640 --> 0:30:20.920 But then once like the root managed to distract the 0:30:21.040 --> 0:30:23.440 guests like how did they know that? Oh my god, 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:26.680 and he wanted to talk about it ruined the interview 0:30:26.800 --> 0:30:31.680 and then well no, no, no, I'm just saying At 0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:33.840 that point, then I was like, oh ship. Then I'm 0:30:33.880 --> 0:30:36.560 watching every show on time and now I have an 0:30:36.560 --> 0:30:39.440 addiction like I have that is the ill That is 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:41.560 the illest thing I gotta say, like that, that is 0:30:41.640 --> 0:30:43.920 like a really cool thing, like what are the roots 0:30:43.960 --> 0:30:46.520 going to bring everybody out to? It's kind of a cool. 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:48.720 It's cool, but then it's like some people come on 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:52.000 the show like with their Matt like Cosby used to 0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.960 do that, like I only got like a good my 0:30:56.160 --> 0:30:59.719 own like jamming on the one reference because then Cosby 0:30:59.840 --> 0:31:01.120 was like, like, Okay, well this is why I want 0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:02.400 to walk out too, and I'm like, no. 0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:07.920 Let me surprise you. Uh. Steve Martin also, but Steve 0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:09.080 Martin's are funny. 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:11.920 Because oh he's requests. He makes special requests. 0:31:12.000 --> 0:31:14.840 Steve loved the idea of what we did to Michelle Blackman, 0:31:15.560 --> 0:31:19.880 Oh my god, right, what we did to her that. 0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:22.320 Then he was like, then he. 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:26.000 Would orchestra, but then it like backfire for us because 0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:28.800 then we would have to come in early to rehearse 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:32.000 his walk on. Like one time he introduced lady No, 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:33.880 I'm Steve Martin, and Steve Martin came out. He was 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.160 on the Letterman set like no, and then he was 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.440 on the view set no, and then he was on 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.760 Conean set like it was this whole elaborate four minute 0:31:43.800 --> 0:31:46.120 walk on thing, and then Will Smith and you know, 0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:48.720 so it's just like sometimes it. 0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:56.280 Backfires, wait to go back to the source of his 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:56.880 rabbit hole. 0:31:56.960 --> 0:31:59.160 Are you saying that you can't watch any entertainment or 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:00.720 is comedy even harder to watch? 0:32:00.920 --> 0:32:04.520 I'm saying comedy. Comedy is hard to watch, and like 0:32:05.240 --> 0:32:07.040 comedy in particular, it is hard to watch. But I 0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:10.280 don't really there's no like shows that I really I watched, 0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.600 like Detroiters that like, is that good? 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:15.320 I love it because the ratings are like out of 0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:17.600 this world and I want to commit, But again I 0:32:17.800 --> 0:32:20.680 love It's that which list I think. 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:26.360 I think it's Jason getting from a beep. Sam Richardson 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:35.240 and Robins, yeah, well and Steve Tim Robinson was like 0:32:35.440 --> 0:32:39.000 my officemate at SNL. Tim and Zach who are the 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:41.760 who are the co creators of the show, and so 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:43.880 like I remember them working on it. I wrote an 0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.960 episode last season and and it's just like their humor 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:50.480 is just the crazy. We used to write the craziest, 0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.560 craziesth it together on SNL that would never get on 0:32:53.760 --> 0:32:55.640 and then we would just have so we would just 0:32:55.680 --> 0:32:56.560 bug out all the time. 0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:58.960 So when don't we talk about matriculating from going on 0:32:59.080 --> 0:33:00.600 stage with some I and J and just winging it 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:04.120 to becoming a writer, because that's I got. 0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:07.400 The craziest how I got on SNL story I think 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.320 that I've heard so far. Literally wait, we didn't even 0:33:10.320 --> 0:33:11.240 get to the Daily Show that. 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:14.760 I was a writer on SNL. Before I was at 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:15.400 the Daily Show. 0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:18.880 Order, oh shit, all right, go ahead continue. I was 0:33:18.920 --> 0:33:21.760 doing stand up maybe you know if he is in 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:25.840 and I saw Colin Joe's at the Ditton Factory Hannibal's 0:33:26.040 --> 0:33:30.120 show in Brooklyn, and we both did a set or whatever, 0:33:30.120 --> 0:33:32.720 and he was like, man, you know you're funny whatever, 0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:34.760 and we were like we would see each other around, 0:33:34.840 --> 0:33:36.920 but like he was he like got to like really 0:33:36.960 --> 0:33:37.320 watch me. 0:33:38.080 --> 0:33:42.160 Next day he hit me up like, hey, you. 0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:44.840 Want I shouldn't say this is going to like discourage 0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.640 people from ever going through the process, but he messaged 0:33:47.680 --> 0:33:49.960 me where he was head writer at the time at SNL, 0:33:50.640 --> 0:33:54.000 and he was like, Yo, if you ever want to 0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:55.480 you know, if you have like a packet or something, 0:33:55.480 --> 0:33:57.960 I would love to submit your packet to SNL, Like 0:33:58.080 --> 0:33:59.960 you know, if you write sketches. And I'd never written 0:34:00.040 --> 0:34:02.440 sketch before, so I was like all right, yeah, sure, 0:34:02.440 --> 0:34:04.880 I'll do it. And I was like, I ain't fucking writing. 0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:06.720 I'm gonna have me write a packet for some shit 0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:08.520 that's gonna be bad, you know what I mean. I 0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:12.400 don't know how to do that. And he would periodically 0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:14.759 hit me up, like every three or four weeks like yo, 0:34:14.800 --> 0:34:16.200 you got to you got the package, Like, oh, I'm 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:17.640 still working on it, but yeah, I'm gonna send it 0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:20.640 to you. And then it was like the week of 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:22.239 the show where he's like, we just want to come 0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:25.960 in as a guest writer. And I was like, all right, 0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:30.320 I came in as a guest writer. And it was 0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:34.480 two week contract. Literally they throw you in the fire, 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:37.719 so like you get there Monday, so that's another production week. 0:34:37.760 --> 0:34:41.080 There's no orientation. You just show up to the show 0:34:41.200 --> 0:34:44.520 and you're like, all right, you work here, get to work. 0:34:44.520 --> 0:34:48.160 You're responsible to sketches or whatever. And everybody's there was 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:51.960 This was like Fred and Bill and Jason was still there. 0:34:52.080 --> 0:34:54.840 Seth was still head writer with with Colin, so it 0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:58.560 was like intimidating as fuck. I think Andy and Christen 0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:00.840 had just left like a few months. 0:35:00.680 --> 0:35:03.319 Before, and no limitations. 0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.320 They just right there. Yeah. They was like, so the 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.040 first thing you gotta do is you got to go 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:10.759 into Lawn's office and do the pitch meeting, which I'm 0:35:10.800 --> 0:35:13.759 sure you know about. You literally the entire cast and 0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:17.399 writing staff in Lawn's office with the host and Kevin 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:22.440 Harts in Lawn's office seventeen with the host. Oh my god, 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.919 it is Kevin is Kevin Hart porn and everything. Don't 0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:28.640 touch the popcorn at that point. Don't touch the po 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.600 It's behind him. So in order to touch the popcorn, 0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:34.000 you gotta walk to like up to his chair. And 0:35:34.120 --> 0:35:37.960 that's a power move, right. He finally thumbs thumbs us 0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.160 up once I brought him too big ass. 0:35:40.960 --> 0:35:41.640 Yeah, back. 0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:45.120 Office, right, Like, y'all know, y'all know, we don't know 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:48.160 what you're talking about. Right, I'm just saying, everybody who listening, 0:35:48.760 --> 0:35:49.240 tell y'all. 0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.960 Inside loves pop. If you walk in, you just you 0:35:52.080 --> 0:35:54.960 hear all over the floor. So we're all in there 0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:58.400 when everybody's giving sketch ideas. Everybody's telling me this is 0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:00.880 like comedy pros, And I'm like, what the fuck am 0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.240 I doing? So my I had to pitch a sketch 0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:05.640 and I got a laugh from it, and I think 0:36:05.680 --> 0:36:09.080 after that they was like, my sketch was I probably 0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.520 told you, but uh it was Kevin Hart playing the 0:36:12.600 --> 0:36:17.400 richest black man in New York, Dwayne Reid, and I 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:20.799 always tell that joke. But and everybody laughed and they 0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:24.400 were like okay. Lauren was like okay. And then my 0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.080 first they asked me to write that sketch. It bombed 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:28.600 terribly at the table, but I didn't know what I 0:36:28.680 --> 0:36:31.160 was doing. So then the next week was justin Timberlake, 0:36:31.840 --> 0:36:33.480 and then I got a sketch on and then it 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.279 was like fun and which one was. 0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:38.480 A sketch? You could never do that? That was close 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:44.600 She's Got a Dick, and it was She's Got a Dick. 0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:47.080 It was a romantic comedy trailer about this lady that 0:36:47.160 --> 0:36:51.840 had everything, but she also had a dick who played woman. 0:36:52.239 --> 0:36:56.880 It was it was justin in the scene. Okay, it 0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:58.680 was justin in the scene. So when you say so, 0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.000 when you say it skip bombed at the table, what 0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.800 what's the I guess the chain of command? What's the process? 0:37:03.840 --> 0:37:06.160 You pitch it in the meeting in law's office and 0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:10.759 then what well, I didn't know this, but typically people 0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.600 who when you do pitch, now I know this. When 0:37:13.640 --> 0:37:17.279 you pitch, typically people don't say what they're going to write. 0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.319 They're usually just saying like a one liner that's going 0:37:19.400 --> 0:37:21.400 to make everybody lie. It's really a meeting to make 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:24.600 the host feel comfortable, you know, like you're not you're 0:37:24.600 --> 0:37:26.080 not really pitching your ideas. 0:37:26.120 --> 0:37:26.960 Sometimes people do. 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.080 Like there's times where you can pitch something people are like, hey, 0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.640 that's funny, actually can you do that? And then you 0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.400 write it and then like that's happened to me a 0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.920 couple of times, or you know, like I've recommended or 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.840 whatever the sketch that that was like super popular. Farewell 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:44.000 mister Bunting. You remember that one where like Pete stands 0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:45.799 up and his head gets chopped off on the ceiling fan. 0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:50.000 It's like that was a pitch. That was a pitch 0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:53.200 that Colin I think mikey Day pitched it and Colin 0:37:53.320 --> 0:37:55.239 was like, hey, you should like we could write that, 0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:57.959 and they wrote it together and made it happen. 0:37:58.040 --> 0:37:59.400 But it was almost he was almost like it was 0:37:59.400 --> 0:37:59.960 like a throwaway. 0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.399 I was literally going to ask you, like the reason 0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:04.919 why you see me there obsessively every week in the show, 0:38:05.920 --> 0:38:08.719 isn't I mean, yes, I want to laugh and I 0:38:08.880 --> 0:38:13.400 enjoy the experience. But my conversation with Higgins always the 0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:16.680 next day is what was the pitch like? 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.400 And then when you got I said, when I went 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.919 to him after that that bit, I said, did someone 0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:24.600 just say, okay, we're going to do it? Not good 0:38:24.640 --> 0:38:29.960 well hunting? What's the thing where I my soy? Yeah? Like, 0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:30.560 did someone just. 0:38:30.560 --> 0:38:33.239 Say okay, it's a dead post society sketch? But then 0:38:33.320 --> 0:38:35.920 when Pete stands on the table, he's going to get beheaded? 0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.640 Like how do you literally pretty much that? 0:38:40.120 --> 0:38:41.840 Yeah, But the thing is like a lot of the 0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:46.160 physical comedy or the or the one bit where somebody 0:38:46.280 --> 0:38:51.239 was a poster or something that involves physical comedy, It's like, 0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.080 how do you articulate that that's going to be the 0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:56.160 funny part if? 0:38:57.680 --> 0:38:59.600 And how does that work in the room that actually 0:38:59.680 --> 0:39:03.600 gets you too. That's where the show gets tricky because 0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:05.920 there's a lot of things that make a table full 0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:09.440 of comedy writers laugh that doesn't make America laugh. And 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:11.480 there's a lot of stuff that doesn't make us laugh 0:39:11.600 --> 0:39:14.359 that becomes a massive hit or whatever. So I think 0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:16.800 that's that's kind of like when Lauren and Higgins and 0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:21.160 and Ken word like, that's kind of when they're saying, 0:39:21.200 --> 0:39:23.239 you know what, I think this will look good on tape, 0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.160 even though it doesn't play hot at the table, I 0:39:25.239 --> 0:39:27.200 think this will work. I think this will be really 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.680 good for the show. So there's a lot of I 0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.640 remember that. Yeah, well, I think we all knew that 0:39:32.719 --> 0:39:35.800 it would be funny. But it's when you're reading, because 0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:38.680 it's everybody's reading their part, and then Lauren is reading 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:42.439 the stage direction. We're not really acting. Now he reads 0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:43.440 every stage director. 0:39:43.600 --> 0:39:44.799 So can I ask a crazy question? 0:39:45.000 --> 0:39:47.040 You're throwing out names and I just googled one because 0:39:47.040 --> 0:39:48.880 I had to figure out who Higgins was. Okay, it's 0:39:48.920 --> 0:39:51.640 Steve Higgins. Okay, this is the guy who is actually 0:39:51.800 --> 0:39:54.000 on the Tonight Show. But he also is like a writer. 0:39:55.880 --> 0:40:01.200 Higgins is like he runs yeah, different fat and he's 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.920 just like that's his DJ gig, right, but you know 0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:08.160 his roots gig is SNL Yes, yes, legendary writer for 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.600 the show. And now he's a producer and he works 0:40:11.080 --> 0:40:12.879 pretty hands on on the show. Yeah. 0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:17.200 See, well that's the thing because usually, like you know, 0:40:17.360 --> 0:40:20.320 commercial breaks when like Lauren is just in the middle 0:40:20.320 --> 0:40:21.800 of the floor, like in the camera. 0:40:21.640 --> 0:40:25.360 Shot photo opp right, part of me is wondering, like, okay, 0:40:25.600 --> 0:40:29.160 are you again? Are you Ronald McDonald? Are you a crop? 0:40:29.440 --> 0:40:32.840 Like are you really making the decisions? So he actually 0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:37.560 reads the Oh no, Lauren makes the like Lauren is 0:40:37.719 --> 0:40:40.960 the guy. He's very he's extremely hands up. We all 0:40:41.040 --> 0:40:43.120 go in his office and we talked things through and 0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:46.600 he has the board and he gives He's very, very 0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:50.439 very instrumental in get I never knew that. I just start. 0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.640 Sometimes he comes up with the cold open sometimes like 0:40:53.400 --> 0:40:55.560 we'll be you know, like we won't have a cold open. 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:57.640 We've been writing our cold opens much much later in 0:40:57.719 --> 0:40:59.600 the week because of the news, because of the news 0:40:59.680 --> 0:41:01.680 cycle has just been insane. We've been we've had to 0:41:01.760 --> 0:41:04.960 like rewrite cold over and rewrite updates on Thursday and 0:41:05.040 --> 0:41:07.680 Friday sometimes like just because of the news, Like the 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:12.120 country is completely different between Wednesday and Friday, like completely different. 0:41:12.480 --> 0:41:15.000 So you know, he'll be like, I feel like maybe 0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:16.680 we should do something like this or whatever, and then 0:41:16.880 --> 0:41:19.480 he kind of like orders it up. A lot of times, 0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.280 you know, oh good, Oh so what is the production schedule. 0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.680 So so Monday we meet the host and it's kind 0:41:26.680 --> 0:41:28.480 of a light day. You could start writing, but you 0:41:28.600 --> 0:41:32.320 really don't have to. But it's really writers meeting and 0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:38.000 then host meeting, and then Tuesday we come in for writing. 0:41:38.120 --> 0:41:40.400 Then you just write all day Tuesday. Sometimes I get 0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:45.200 in usually around three four pm, and then I'll maybe 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:50.160 leave at about seven eight am and then go home, 0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:52.359 take a nap, take a shower, then go to table read, 0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.360 which is usually around three pm. 0:41:54.440 --> 0:41:58.239 On Wednesday. We read up until about eight o'clock and. 0:41:58.280 --> 0:42:02.240 Table readers, you guys, table read, we read about forty 0:42:02.400 --> 0:42:06.320 anywhere between thirty five and forty of the sketches you 0:42:06.440 --> 0:42:09.160 wrote on Tuesday that we all wrote on Tuesday, and 0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:14.000 then we picked maybe eleven to produce. We rewrite it Thursday. 0:42:14.320 --> 0:42:17.240 We do our pre tapes Friday and our blocking Friday, 0:42:17.880 --> 0:42:22.320 and then Saturday run through dress rehearsal air. Do you 0:42:23.360 --> 0:42:26.680 Between dress rehearsal and air, we usually cut two to 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:30.760 three sketches cut meaning meaning it together. 0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:32.839 Yeah, it's like a two hour show. 0:42:34.080 --> 0:42:36.279 We go in with about two hours and then we 0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:39.879 leave what about ninety minutes for live, and sometimes we're 0:42:40.000 --> 0:42:41.680 cutting shit on air. 0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.640 Sometimes we're rewriting shit on there. 0:42:43.680 --> 0:42:45.719 There's times where like the show is on and you're 0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.480 in your dressing room and you think your day's open, 0:42:47.560 --> 0:42:49.799 your sketch is next, and they're like, hey, they need 0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:51.239 you in a control room and you're literally in the 0:42:51.280 --> 0:42:55.680 script department cutting out sketches, cutting out lines of a sketch. 0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.279 So if you ever like watching the show and at 0:42:57.320 --> 0:43:00.400 the end you're like, well that ended weird because we 0:43:00.520 --> 0:43:02.680 had to shave forty five seconds out of a three 0:43:02.760 --> 0:43:06.440 minute sketch, which happens a lot. Yeah, and if if 0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:10.920 well that's how I first met you. I learned the processes. 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:15.799 If you're one of the bits that gets cut, if 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:18.600 you're newbie, you might take a little personal you might 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.080 take a little personal Pam pizza. 0:43:20.800 --> 0:43:24.279 So then you go up to seventeen and then you 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:27.040 get ship face drunk if you just been. 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.680 Yep, Because does everybody every week at least get in 0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:34.320 a get in a segment, like everybody. 0:43:34.280 --> 0:43:37.479 Hannibal said, no, no, not Hannible, what's his name said? 0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:41.480 He never got his? I think I think Hannibal got 0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.840 like one or two. But yeah, some it's it's for 0:43:44.960 --> 0:43:49.719 some writers you never see it's been a little bit. Well, 0:43:49.719 --> 0:43:52.040 you got to think when they were writing, they had 0:43:52.200 --> 0:43:55.279 like I mean it was like, yeah, they you had 0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:57.600 like Kristen wigg and only people on the show that 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.920 that's like half the show right there. I didn't write anything. 0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:04.040 She was in real Estate gets a lot smaller, you know, 0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:05.520 so like you. 0:44:05.520 --> 0:44:07.920 Know, Larry David said he none of his bits ever 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:13.360 got on. Yeah, Larry David, Sarah Silverman, I've heard that 0:44:13.440 --> 0:44:13.759 as well. 0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:15.160 And to work there for years. 0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:17.799 I think Sarah was only there for like a year 0:44:17.920 --> 0:44:19.640 or two. I don't think she was there. 0:44:19.880 --> 0:44:21.160 Well, so is it an official? 0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:24.160 Is there really an official like s n L Frattorney, Like, 0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:25.920 was there a moment when you felt like, yes, I'm 0:44:25.960 --> 0:44:28.520 officially in this special collective and I can go talk 0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:29.760 to Bill Murray at anytime? 0:44:29.880 --> 0:44:34.480 And No, it's really you never feel that because it's you. 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:39.520 You just get comfortable. It's like anything else. It's like 0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:43.080 you really it just it ends up being like holy ship, 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:47.560 that's Bill Murray to Bill Murray's here. It becomes like 0:44:47.760 --> 0:44:50.239 just that, Yeah, we see them all the time. And 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.680 I think that's kind of the crazy thing. Like we're 0:44:52.719 --> 0:44:56.480 probably the only show where people are more nervous than 0:44:56.560 --> 0:44:58.960 we are, yeah, to be on than we are to 0:44:59.040 --> 0:44:59.600 have them on. 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.920 Not even the nervous part, just a camaraderie of knowing that. Okay, 0:45:03.000 --> 0:45:05.279 So if Chevvy chasees me on the street, he's going 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.279 to say something because we are in this fraternity, like. 0:45:07.480 --> 0:45:09.160 Or maybe he won't. Maybe he won't. 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:14.040 I should have went fast basketball. 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:24.759 I don't know. Okay, when when someone you haven't worked 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:26.800 with from the show knows who you are, it's a 0:45:27.080 --> 0:45:32.160 very strange experience, Like you're like, what I saw John 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:34.680 Love It's I've never seen him outside of the show 0:45:35.239 --> 0:45:37.560 before this, and I saw him in l A one 0:45:37.680 --> 0:45:39.000 time and he was like nice to me and I 0:45:39.080 --> 0:45:42.520 was like, John Love It. It was like it blew 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:46.280 my mind becau. John Loves was like my favorite guy favorite. 0:45:46.840 --> 0:45:49.080 He was, Oh my god, I love John Love this. 0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:49.800 He was so funny. 0:45:54.640 --> 0:46:00.560 So okay, with the host that come on the show, 0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:07.680 do you I feel like there's three types of posts. 0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:09.240 So if. 0:46:10.600 --> 0:46:13.440 Say, someone that's eager and easy to work with, I 0:46:13.480 --> 0:46:18.399 would assume that Hanks is that guy that's like really 0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:21.560 about making the most of a moment hosting ESNL. 0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:24.879 He's a dream come true. Yes, I'm sure that timber 0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:27.239 Lake is also that way, very eager to you know, 0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:29.759 can do anything, do what I gotta do to make 0:46:29.800 --> 0:46:32.040 sure this is a classic episode. If it's funny, He's 0:46:32.080 --> 0:46:33.280 with it. But then. 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:38.680 You know, you guys might get a wild card like 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:43.840 were you there during the Trump yeah, hosting, Yeah, of 0:46:43.960 --> 0:46:48.480 which I'm sure that was a little crazy. 0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:52.960 Well, it wasn't. To me. It wasn't that crazy because 0:46:53.000 --> 0:46:55.799 I didn't expect him to win until like a year 0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:58.880 after that. Like at that time, it still kind of 0:46:58.920 --> 0:47:01.879 felt like it was still a little bit of a joke. 0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:05.440 It wasn't as kind of like you know, it wasn't like. 0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.840 Not even not even the process of like will he 0:47:08.960 --> 0:47:11.359 be president? I'm just talking about like a good host 0:47:11.400 --> 0:47:15.759 for the show, deliverying that sort of thing. 0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:19.480 A good host for me is a little bit different 0:47:19.640 --> 0:47:22.680 like somebody like a comedian. When a stand up is hosting, 0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:26.719 it's usually not fun for me, really, yes, because they 0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:29.160 bringing their own team. Because not only they bringing their 0:47:29.160 --> 0:47:32.080 own team, but stand ups and like comedians wroke, like 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:35.400 they know why they're funny, they're not. They trust themselves 0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:38.000 way more than they trust the writings, you know, and 0:47:38.080 --> 0:47:39.640 they know they got one shot at this and they 0:47:39.680 --> 0:47:43.320 don't want a bomb, so they're like, I don't know. 0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.640 They're on the fence about everything. They're not shut about 0:47:45.680 --> 0:47:48.120 anything until they hear to laugh and they'll say, all right, 0:47:48.160 --> 0:47:50.400 we can, we can do this. That was gonna I love. 0:47:50.719 --> 0:47:53.560 My favorite is like a like a Blake Shelton. 0:47:53.680 --> 0:47:58.759 That's just like, man, just you unexpected. I don't care. 0:47:59.040 --> 0:48:01.440 Just just write it. I'll read it. If it works. 0:48:01.480 --> 0:48:01.920 It works. 0:48:02.080 --> 0:48:03.440 That's a dream scenario. 0:48:04.160 --> 0:48:05.080 What was Chappelle like? 0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:07.239 What was his Chappelle was? 0:48:07.760 --> 0:48:07.920 Well? 0:48:07.960 --> 0:48:10.840 First of was Chappelle is not only is he a genius, 0:48:11.120 --> 0:48:12.279 but he's a perfectionist. 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:18.640 And also this week was like the craziest week because 0:48:18.719 --> 0:48:22.399 Trump had won. So literally Tuesday you felt one way 0:48:22.520 --> 0:48:27.200 and the country was completely different by Wednesday, Like I 0:48:27.440 --> 0:48:29.560 never other than nine to eleven, I don't remember a 0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:34.000 more drastic change and tone after a day. So to 0:48:34.200 --> 0:48:36.880 write comp we mind, we write the show Tuesday, so 0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:39.680 we have to write a sketch, you know what I mean. 0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:42.200 You gotta imagine writing like the Poop Family sketch and 0:48:42.360 --> 0:48:45.440 you're watching the country literally fall apart, and you're like, 0:48:45.440 --> 0:48:47.400 all right, what does he say? Next, you know, it's 0:48:47.520 --> 0:48:51.000 nothing that seems important at that time. So by Wednesday, 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:56.240 table read all those sketches in rough shape because everyone 0:48:56.400 --> 0:49:00.360 was so distracted and nobody really had anything good. But 0:49:01.680 --> 0:49:05.160 Neil Brennan helped a lot, and Chappelle of course got 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:08.160 his hands on stuff, and Brian Tucker did a lot 0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:10.680 of work to bring everything up. We all you know, 0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.279 pitched in to bring everything up h to get the 0:49:14.360 --> 0:49:16.760 show ready by Saturday. But that was like a really 0:49:16.840 --> 0:49:18.520 weird week. So it's hard for me to really say 0:49:18.560 --> 0:49:21.840 what Dave was like because it was such a bizarre circumstances. 0:49:22.560 --> 0:49:26.560 So the whole sometimes will help with sketches, of course. 0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.560 I mean if they yeah, they know what they're doing, 0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:30.800 they'll yeah. I mean they got to say it. We 0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:32.840 do the show for them and they and they ultimately 0:49:32.880 --> 0:49:34.239 get to pick. Like when we picked the sketches that 0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:37.120 go on the show, it's the head writers and the 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.840 producers and uh Lauren and the host and we we 0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:43.000 talk it through, like we talked through I feel like 0:49:43.080 --> 0:49:44.840 you need something here or whatever. We just kind of 0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.040 tell them the formula of the show and what we 0:49:47.120 --> 0:49:50.480 think will make them look good. Cast coverage, all of 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:53.160 that stuff, and then we kind of decided from there, 0:49:53.200 --> 0:49:54.879 and there's some stuff that they'll fight for and there's 0:49:54.880 --> 0:49:56.279 some stuff that they're like, hey, I trust you. 0:49:56.719 --> 0:49:59.360 Has that ever been a comedian who's bought a ridiculous 0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:00.799 amount of life writers with him? 0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:01.719 Uh? 0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:11.880 What's ridiculous? Number more than two is kind of crazy 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:15.279 based on what I've watched. All Right, all you have 0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:16.920 to do is confirm yes or no. You don't have 0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:17.480 to say anything. 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:24.920 Did Rock bring a lot of writers on his episode? Thing? Though, 0:50:25.200 --> 0:50:30.600 because I can tell the difference between when a comedian 0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:35.320 host brings his own people and then when a comedy 0:50:35.440 --> 0:50:38.760 well not a comedian, but when someone knows to trust 0:50:38.800 --> 0:50:43.759 the process. Now, I don't have any expectations for the 0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:47.279 Larry David episode, but that to me was one of 0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:50.880 the funniest shows ever. Yeah, And I was like, okay, 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:57.720 former uh, former SNL alumni, he knows that he knows 0:50:57.920 --> 0:51:02.879 the situation writing on that I know. But but thus 0:51:03.040 --> 0:51:06.480 that's why his episode turned out to be hilarious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:51:06.800 --> 0:51:10.680 whereas you know, I mean, there's no secret, Like even 0:51:10.880 --> 0:51:13.960 Rock and I talked about it, like his episode, the 0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:20.640 one with Prince was probably the the not so well 0:51:21.000 --> 0:51:22.280 executed episode. 0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:25.719 Well. I think that's also a big difference, is is that, 0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:31.120 like Larry David really wanted to do it. I don't. 0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:33.440 I think Chris was kind of Chris is all you 0:51:33.480 --> 0:51:37.480 know how Chris, He's like, I don't know, like he's. 0:51:36.600 --> 0:51:39.560 Never like gung ho excited to do that. 0:51:40.080 --> 0:51:42.400 Yeah, that's what I'm saying, Like he's so just added 0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:44.560 to Like Larry David was kind of like dude, he 0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:47.120 was like laughing out loud at the table, like it 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.400 was a little bit of a different kind of energy 0:51:49.440 --> 0:51:51.719 where it. Yeah, it was a little bit. 0:51:51.880 --> 0:51:54.440 Chris is a little bit more like Yeah, So that 0:51:54.560 --> 0:51:58.319 takes me ask that sketch with Chris and Dave, how 0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:01.400 many people does it take to write Christen days? Now? 0:52:01.680 --> 0:52:05.600 That sketch is almost and that sketch is a like 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:09.720 perfect example of the week. That sketch was completely different 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:15.000 Wednesday than it ended up being because because Hillary because yeah, 0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:18.160 so like they had to completely retool that sketch. It 0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:21.400 make different. I think the initial premise it was it 0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:23.960 was a Tucker Tucker and Neil wrote it. I think 0:52:24.040 --> 0:52:27.800 the initial premise, I don't even you have to me, 0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.279 I don't even remember the initiate, but it was so 0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.880 far from what it ended up being. That why I 0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:34.719 actually liked that bit. 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.440 I like and it was hell of black. But you 0:52:37.440 --> 0:52:39.160 said wrote that. 0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:45.440 Neil Brennan and Brian Tucker they're very white but. 0:52:50.320 --> 0:52:51.480 They get pass some days. 0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:54.600 But that was like Tucker, Tucker and I write Black 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:59.600 Jeopardy together. So to give you an idea of how No, 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.000 I can his sense of he's from North Carolina. He's 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:05.120 got like what city is from? I don't know where 0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:07.680 he's from. That as I'm saying that, I'm like, yeah, well, yeah, 0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:08.960 I really don't. 0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:11.120 Know what city, given him the past and everything. 0:53:11.400 --> 0:53:14.920 Yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know what city, but definitely 0:53:15.120 --> 0:53:18.040 North Carolina. Speaking of Speaking of which, I'm gonna gas 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:21.680 Chap like around because he's a huge UNC fan. 0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:26.000 That whites man from North Carolina that knows our people. 0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:26.960 I must look into this. 0:53:27.560 --> 0:53:29.080 Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I don't know what 0:53:29.160 --> 0:53:33.319 the end game is for him, but he seems nice now. 0:53:35.480 --> 0:53:40.319 Speaking speaking of which, speaking of which, it just hit 0:53:40.440 --> 0:53:50.000 me right now that you, Michael, are probably the first, 0:53:50.400 --> 0:53:59.080 uh black cast member of that show to really not 0:53:59.760 --> 0:54:04.840 have to endure the Is he going to be the 0:54:04.960 --> 0:54:09.919 next Eddie. Oh that's a really good point. No, yeah, 0:54:10.640 --> 0:54:13.440 I'm never, yeah I was. I was never chasing a 0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:17.080 ghost on that show. I think you're chasing a different 0:54:17.080 --> 0:54:20.320 ghost though, because I update, Yeah. 0:54:20.239 --> 0:54:24.440 I had to Seth was my ghost, which was like terrible. 0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:27.759 You know what I mean, probably for you is like 0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:31.520 surviving weekend update as opposed to will I make a 0:54:31.680 --> 0:54:34.640 one hundred million dollar paramount movie deal once I get 0:54:34.680 --> 0:54:35.160 off the show. 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:37.239 When I first got to the show, I was like, 0:54:37.400 --> 0:54:40.600 I was the only black writer on the show when 0:54:40.640 --> 0:54:43.160 I my first my first year. But that's why I 0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:45.120 don't like it's so weird when people say, oh, you're 0:54:45.120 --> 0:54:48.279 a first black head writer, and I'm always like, it 0:54:48.360 --> 0:54:48.680 wasn't like. 0:54:48.680 --> 0:54:52.839 It was a rule, you know, like Jackie Robins writer. 0:54:53.000 --> 0:54:56.719 Now, yeah, I like this year right because it was 0:54:56.760 --> 0:54:59.160 big h. 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.000 That's the crazy thing. I became head writer. 0:55:02.719 --> 0:55:05.959 I became a guest writer, and Kevin Hart was the host. 0:55:06.080 --> 0:55:08.000 And when I became head writer, Kevin Hart was the host. 0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:19.160 Forgive me, he's doing it and not Ken the host. 0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:22.680 I gotta git a promotion for some reason. No, But 0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.359 I mean like I was the first I was there. 0:55:24.520 --> 0:55:27.480 I was the only writer there only black writer there, so. 0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:31.080 I'm sorry. 0:55:31.840 --> 0:55:34.360 There was there was ton that after that. Then Leslie 0:55:34.440 --> 0:55:38.880 was a writer, and then the Kendricks was a There 0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:41.960 was a few, there was a few black women. Oh, 0:55:42.040 --> 0:55:46.279 head writer, I don't know, but like, so what is 0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:51.359 what is it to me to be the head god? 0:55:51.480 --> 0:55:54.319 Am I about to open this ben doors box? All 0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:59.040 I know from what I know from where I work, Yeah, 0:55:59.800 --> 0:56:03.840 you know a lot being the head writer. Interviews always 0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:09.360 act like they don't know, trying to keep I don't know. 0:56:13.120 --> 0:56:17.560 I'm just saying that from what I observed, being the 0:56:17.800 --> 0:56:22.000 head writer is just I'm not dancing line it just 0:56:22.080 --> 0:56:26.040 let me say it. It's it's a nightmare because basically 0:56:26.239 --> 0:56:28.359 requires you to be the bad cop. 0:56:29.280 --> 0:56:31.040 Yeah, you gotta be the bad cop. 0:56:31.120 --> 0:56:37.399 But also well, head writer is not necessarily the bad cop. 0:56:38.760 --> 0:56:41.600 That's I feel like producer Higgins and I feel like 0:56:41.760 --> 0:56:44.759 the producers are more so the bad cop. Higgins is 0:56:44.840 --> 0:56:45.319 a bad cop. 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:47.520 I mean they're in the position to be back. 0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:50.040 I've never seen Higgins serious day in his life, and 0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:53.160 I've known him from nine years, So I don't know 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:57.080 how to comedy serious. You gotta the comedy serious people. 0:56:57.520 --> 0:57:02.879 Comedians are so sensitive, like so sens it's like because 0:57:02.880 --> 0:57:06.600 when you're telling somebody this isn't funny or you're doing 0:57:06.640 --> 0:57:09.640 it bad, you know, like you can't. It's hard to recover, 0:57:09.800 --> 0:57:12.759 especially when you're in that room with all with Kate 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:15.400 McKinnon and all these mothers that are awesome and comedy 0:57:15.480 --> 0:57:18.800 is so absolute. Either the shit funny or it ain't. 0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:23.320 Is the news broken at the table, I don't know 0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.200 about this or is it like later like no, no, 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:27.360 what after high school? 0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:28.680 After we read all of the sketch. 0:57:28.760 --> 0:57:31.720 Yes, it's pretty much like basketball the basketball team where 0:57:31.800 --> 0:57:34.560 they write what made it on the on the door okay, 0:57:34.880 --> 0:57:37.640 and then you all of the sketches are on in 0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:40.080 then they circles the ones that's that's going because then 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.440 you have to go produce your sketch. Like literally, when 0:57:42.480 --> 0:57:45.600 you find out your sketches picked on on Wednesday night, 0:57:46.000 --> 0:57:47.960 you have to go to production and you go to 0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:50.880 wardrobe department, you go to the hair department, you go 0:57:50.960 --> 0:57:54.000 to the the set department, you go to props. You 0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:55.680 go to everybody and tell them what you need for. 0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:57.080 Your sketch and they give you liked they give you 0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:58.200 a budget like that's too expensive? 0:57:58.240 --> 0:57:59.360 You want an explosion, we can't do that. 0:57:59.720 --> 0:58:02.480 Like the videos for pre tape, they don't give you 0:58:02.520 --> 0:58:04.480 a number, they don't give you a number budget, but 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:06.400 they will say, all right, that's a little we probably 0:58:06.480 --> 0:58:08.840 can't do that because you know, we can't get a 0:58:08.880 --> 0:58:10.880 real Lamborghini you know what I mean, whatever, But but 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.280 a lot of our stuff they can do. Like if 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:15.720 it's good though, that's when Lauren comes in. That's when 0:58:15.800 --> 0:58:18.320 he's like, no, you know what, fuck that, we're doing it. 0:58:18.520 --> 0:58:20.880 And then that's you know, he's always on the side 0:58:20.960 --> 0:58:24.320 of the show, which is the makes it a lot 0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:27.400 easier side question or you said, then Lauren has to 0:58:27.480 --> 0:58:30.240 come in, so well damn. Now you're the parent. 0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:35.800 So okay, say I'm a writer there and I'm asking 0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:40.640 you dad hypothetically Dad, no, no, no no, and you're like, 0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.880 and you somehow diplomatically or whatever, tell me, I don't 0:58:44.880 --> 0:58:45.760 think that's going to work. 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:46.280 Yeah. 0:58:46.480 --> 0:58:50.720 Has there ever been a at dinner Lauren? I really 0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.960 had this this idea that I think and then like 0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:57.360 you gotta sneak at the Higgins and Lauren Lauren and 0:58:57.480 --> 0:59:01.880 then like going over your head the way the system 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:06.080 is well nothing, See, I don't have an agenda, so nothing. 0:59:06.240 --> 0:59:07.560 You don't have to go over my head. 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:13.120 If you perses of where a writer or a cast 0:59:13.200 --> 0:59:16.600 member like kind of goo wright is back to good. 0:59:17.000 --> 0:59:21.680 I feel like, what when like, we don't have an agenda? 0:59:21.760 --> 0:59:24.320 So when a writer will come up to us or 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:26.080 whatever and tell us, like about a sketch they want 0:59:26.120 --> 0:59:27.960 to do, or an idea that they have or whatever, 0:59:28.600 --> 0:59:31.680 if we think it might be like a disaster, we'll 0:59:31.720 --> 0:59:33.920 be like, well, I mean, we'll try to kind of 0:59:34.000 --> 0:59:36.560 redirect the idea. But at the end of the day, 0:59:36.960 --> 0:59:39.840 you got the computer, you write it, you put the 0:59:39.880 --> 0:59:42.480 script out. If it plays at the table, everybody hears 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:45.120 it at the same time. If it plays it seems 0:59:45.160 --> 0:59:48.520 like something that can be done, then that's your argument, 0:59:49.120 --> 0:59:51.000 you know what I mean? Yo, it worked, it killed? 0:59:51.000 --> 0:59:52.680 Why is this not going on? Then they might go 0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:55.800 to lawn after that. But Lorn makes that decision. Is 0:59:55.880 --> 0:59:58.640 it wise to we help him? But he makes that 0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:01.840 decision ultimately of what we should be producing, what's what 1:00:01.960 --> 1:00:05.000 shouldn't be produced? Is it wise to choose a partner? 1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:06.640 Like if you come in there on your own, like 1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:10.720 I'm alone writer, Yeah, is it wise for me to say, Okay? 1:00:11.240 --> 1:00:14.600 So Kate McKinnon is being used a lot more than 1:00:14.640 --> 1:00:18.960 blah blah blah blah blah. So you know, hey, Kate, 1:00:19.160 --> 1:00:20.800 I got an idea for you, or let's write a 1:00:20.880 --> 1:00:21.400 thing together. 1:00:21.640 --> 1:00:27.800 Yeah, it becomes that's the first move. That's the first move. 1:00:27.960 --> 1:00:31.200 Usually I don't want to know who's the barbershop share 1:00:31.280 --> 1:00:32.960 that no one wants to go to the guy. 1:00:32.880 --> 1:00:40.080 That doesn't cut number five. Yeah, but it's how Also 1:00:40.120 --> 1:00:42.520 it becomes a chemistry thing. It also becomes like because 1:00:42.560 --> 1:00:44.680 you got to think you're in a room with this person. 1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:47.360 So if you can't get along with somebody, you think 1:00:47.360 --> 1:00:49.640 they're weird, like you don't want to be in there 1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:52.880 trying to But that's my question. All right now, I 1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:54.040 hate to throw you under the bus. 1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:59.800 So yeah, John love he loves him. 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:06.280 See right now, before you throw me under the there's 1:01:06.320 --> 1:01:11.120 still times of Steve's kind of the resident oscular grouch 1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:15.120 at at thirty on on the sixth floor. No, yeah, 1:01:15.160 --> 1:01:18.880 he is, but like like a lovable grump. You know, 1:01:19.240 --> 1:01:22.560 people know everyone loves Steve, but it's like a lovable grump. 1:01:22.640 --> 1:01:27.160 But the thing is is that what if you have 1:01:27.320 --> 1:01:32.560 the goods as a writer, but you might have aford 1:01:33.360 --> 1:01:44.000 to have an he got it. Yeah, like person, this 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:49.520 guy is funny, right, but he loved him him you know, no, yeah, 1:01:49.560 --> 1:01:53.120 I mean that happens too. I mean like that's it's 1:01:53.600 --> 1:01:57.000 it is political, like like anything else would be. You know, 1:01:57.040 --> 1:02:00.720 a lot of it just becomes you know, that's when 1:02:00.760 --> 1:02:03.040 the producers kind of step in because they you know, 1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:04.680 they kind of go around and they find out what 1:02:04.800 --> 1:02:05.600 everybody's writing. 1:02:05.680 --> 1:02:06.840 Hey, what are you guys working on? What are you 1:02:06.920 --> 1:02:07.200 working on? 1:02:07.240 --> 1:02:09.160 Okay, oh that'll be good, or we need more table, 1:02:09.240 --> 1:02:11.280 we need more of this whatever. So in those discussions 1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:14.520 they realize, hey, this cast member is not being written 1:02:14.600 --> 1:02:16.480 for as much or whatever, so maybe you know, and 1:02:16.520 --> 1:02:18.760 then we'll kind of like, okay, well, well what could 1:02:18.760 --> 1:02:20.840 be something that they can do? And then you make 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:22.360 sure that you have covered You kind of make sure 1:02:22.400 --> 1:02:24.959 everybody has a shot at the table, everybody has something 1:02:25.040 --> 1:02:27.640 at the table. Do you feel a that's something that 1:02:28.360 --> 1:02:31.000 becomes a responsibility when you're as a head writer and 1:02:31.040 --> 1:02:33.919 as a producer that maybe you didn't even think about 1:02:34.200 --> 1:02:40.640 as a regular writer. So when you're a head writer, 1:02:40.800 --> 1:02:43.400 what's the difference between your head writer you're kind of 1:02:44.400 --> 1:02:48.440 you know, you're it's more decision making. Okay, it's more 1:02:48.520 --> 1:02:49.560 it's more decision making. 1:02:49.800 --> 1:02:53.480 Do you do you feel a well, I guess we 1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:57.600 all feel pressure as black people, But do you feel 1:02:57.760 --> 1:02:59.080 a pressure in. 1:02:59.200 --> 1:03:01.600 This sort of unspoken tug of war. 1:03:03.600 --> 1:03:10.520 Battle to make where you work reflective of where America 1:03:10.680 --> 1:03:14.880 is now as opposed to the comfort zone that SNL 1:03:15.000 --> 1:03:17.240 was associated with. Like, I can assume my idea that 1:03:17.360 --> 1:03:21.000 you're not an avid, obsessive SNL. 1:03:22.440 --> 1:03:23.320 Right, exactly. 1:03:25.280 --> 1:03:29.680 A update because not for nothing I do, right, No, 1:03:29.840 --> 1:03:31.400 I get it if I see me, I'm on, I'm 1:03:31.440 --> 1:03:31.680 on it. 1:03:31.800 --> 1:03:36.640 But right, see, but I respect the institution of comedy, 1:03:36.720 --> 1:03:38.480 so I'd watch it regardless. 1:03:38.800 --> 1:03:46.000 But I will say that now that I think now 1:03:46.040 --> 1:03:49.080 that they're aware that, okay, we have to be more inclusive. 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:52.240 Of now that they were forced and pressure about a 1:03:52.280 --> 1:03:54.600 few years ago with the higher of two black ladies. 1:03:54.960 --> 1:03:57.160 Right, But I also feels like, you know, you have 1:03:57.320 --> 1:04:01.240 to reflect what America true is, like there's no hiding 1:04:01.320 --> 1:04:03.480 it anymore, right it used to be. 1:04:04.040 --> 1:04:06.080 Well, it's so funny you say that, because I was 1:04:06.160 --> 1:04:08.640 just talking to somebody at the show about this yesterday, 1:04:09.360 --> 1:04:14.400 and I always feel like when people bring up diversity 1:04:14.400 --> 1:04:18.720 they always bring up, just like different colors of people 1:04:18.840 --> 1:04:23.000 that think the same, you know, And I kind of 1:04:23.160 --> 1:04:25.080 like the idea. I kind of like the tension in 1:04:25.160 --> 1:04:28.760 the show of people having different beliefs and people kind 1:04:28.800 --> 1:04:31.439 of having different That's what makes it a variety show. 1:04:31.560 --> 1:04:34.400 That's what makes it so, you know, I kind of 1:04:34.520 --> 1:04:38.200 I like personally just kind of writing stuff that's a 1:04:38.320 --> 1:04:42.160 little bit against what maybe people think a liberal comedy 1:04:42.200 --> 1:04:44.200 show should be or whatever, because we're really not a 1:04:44.320 --> 1:04:46.760 liberal show. We're a variety show. We're supposed to be 1:04:47.560 --> 1:04:50.600 what America is, and America isn't one thing. America isn't 1:04:50.680 --> 1:04:51.360 all on the left. 1:04:51.480 --> 1:04:52.280 And I'm cologized. 1:04:52.440 --> 1:04:54.360 I forgot that Michael now is the head writer, which 1:04:54.400 --> 1:04:57.280 option been writing watching ever since they made that announcement, 1:04:57.320 --> 1:04:59.280 because now I can because I know there's a voice 1:04:59.320 --> 1:04:59.920 of higher up making this. 1:05:00.240 --> 1:05:02.120 Oh yeah, I mean what I'm saying. The idea of 1:05:02.200 --> 1:05:06.400 Black Jeopardy probably probably wouldn't have flown, but it was 1:05:06.440 --> 1:05:09.320 so authentic and so good. I was like, it's honest 1:05:09.480 --> 1:05:12.040 for me and some you know y'all like yeah, I 1:05:12.080 --> 1:05:14.880 hear you laughing a mirror like that sort of yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:05:15.720 --> 1:05:19.400 Like where I'm laughing louder than the people that slept 1:05:19.440 --> 1:05:22.640 ten hours on the sidewalk to watch kill Swift perform. 1:05:23.800 --> 1:05:25.600 Its like, is there ever a concern? 1:05:25.760 --> 1:05:28.800 You just said a very interesting thing. But what you 1:05:29.000 --> 1:05:30.400 just said a very interesting thing. 1:05:31.200 --> 1:05:34.439 Which makes our show so unique is that our show 1:05:35.000 --> 1:05:37.880 we never know who our audience is gonna be. Our 1:05:37.960 --> 1:05:41.560 show could be all hairl of Swift fans. Ow I 1:05:41.640 --> 1:05:43.640 gotta do North Korea jokes for the people that came 1:05:43.680 --> 1:05:46.040 to see the one direction it might not work the same, 1:05:46.080 --> 1:05:48.040 you know what I mean. Or your sketch whatever, you 1:05:48.120 --> 1:05:50.640 could have a political sketch for, you know, the Bruno 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:53.080 Mars from whoever and or vice versa. You know, you 1:05:53.120 --> 1:05:55.919 could have kind of a uh, you know, I feel 1:05:55.960 --> 1:06:01.680 like the musical act dictates dictates, uh, the musical as 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:05.479 what audience is going to be there typically because music 1:06:05.600 --> 1:06:08.800 fans are a little bit different than actor fans, you know, 1:06:08.920 --> 1:06:11.160 so the host, the host usually has a fan base 1:06:11.240 --> 1:06:13.560 of you know, it's recognizable, but the music is the 1:06:13.640 --> 1:06:16.200 motherfucker's just camping out, you know what I mean. So, 1:06:16.480 --> 1:06:18.040 I mean, you know, it's just different. You never know 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:21.480 who there is. John Stewart does his show. They didn't 1:06:21.480 --> 1:06:24.280 see John Stewart or Colbert Jimmy like they did see Jimmy. 1:06:24.320 --> 1:06:26.040 You know. So it's it's a little bit different for 1:06:26.160 --> 1:06:29.160 us because the Starter show is our cast and our host, and. 1:06:29.280 --> 1:06:31.640 When it comes it is like all the Black America 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:32.240 swoop down. 1:06:32.640 --> 1:06:37.560 There's certain there's certain black shows that we have that's like, 1:06:37.760 --> 1:06:39.600 oh boy, my phone was about to be. 1:06:41.320 --> 1:06:44.160 Yeah, like Glover, it was like a ship. 1:06:45.000 --> 1:06:51.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, Donald Glover, Drake of course, Kevin Hart, 1:06:51.920 --> 1:06:55.240 of course, any chappelle forget about it. It was what 1:06:55.360 --> 1:07:00.440 was a chappelle and tribe was Tiffany had I got 1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:02.120 a lot of I got a lot of calls tif one. 1:07:03.000 --> 1:07:06.160 Yeah, yeah, I was shocked. I got in a few 1:07:06.200 --> 1:07:09.200 of those. It's my dream to actually be an intern there. 1:07:09.360 --> 1:07:09.600 So that. 1:07:12.040 --> 1:07:14.160 Like for me, like Higgins is like, no, man, you 1:07:14.200 --> 1:07:17.760 can't come to pitch meetings, but I just want to 1:07:17.800 --> 1:07:21.840 see how pitch meetings are, just so I can figure 1:07:21.880 --> 1:07:23.960 out how that machine runs. 1:07:24.040 --> 1:07:25.880 But you have a thirty rock show in you you 1:07:25.960 --> 1:07:27.680 know that there's like a whole show in that building 1:07:27.720 --> 1:07:28.479 that you could just host. 1:07:29.080 --> 1:07:31.000 I you know, we talk about that all the time, 1:07:31.120 --> 1:07:34.920 like what happens out of the show is actually that's 1:07:35.280 --> 1:07:38.160 more funnier and interesting than you know, the shows that 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:38.760 are produced. 1:07:38.760 --> 1:07:42.360 There is it a pressure for a Lauren Michael's produced movie, 1:07:42.440 --> 1:07:45.080 Like what's the process? Because it feels like Lauren only 1:07:45.160 --> 1:07:47.400 really produces the movies that his people are in. But 1:07:47.560 --> 1:07:49.680 is there pressure or is there like, Okay, I know 1:07:49.800 --> 1:07:52.040 this is an added incentive that I might get him 1:07:52.200 --> 1:07:53.960 behind it, so I need to write something. 1:07:54.480 --> 1:07:55.880 Is there a pressure to make one? 1:07:56.040 --> 1:08:00.920 Yeah? Oh, I'm never really I'm never really into anything 1:08:01.000 --> 1:08:02.960 like that. Like I'm always like, what if I have 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:05.880 a good idea, how do we execute the idea? I 1:08:06.000 --> 1:08:09.360 think it comes from doing that's enough for so long. 1:08:09.560 --> 1:08:12.360 It's just like if I have an idea, that's if 1:08:12.400 --> 1:08:14.640 it's a sketch, I'm like, oh, this will probably be 1:08:14.720 --> 1:08:16.360 better as a live sketule. This will probably better as 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:17.760 a pre table, This will probably be better as a 1:08:17.840 --> 1:08:20.040 sitcom script, but this will probably be better as a movie. 1:08:20.160 --> 1:08:22.920 Like that's whatever it is to execute it is how 1:08:23.680 --> 1:08:27.000 how I go by I's to hear you talk. You're 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:30.240 so nonchalant about it that it's like, hey, you know that, 1:08:30.520 --> 1:08:36.400 Whereas like when when when Pharaoh was there? There was 1:08:36.479 --> 1:08:39.280 always like the hope of tomorrow, Like Okay, no, this 1:08:40.640 --> 1:08:42.880 is gonna be my moment. No, no, you know that's 1:08:42.920 --> 1:08:46.800 not how comedy works, man, you know. But the thing 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:51.519 is is that for you to just get in the 1:08:51.600 --> 1:08:55.320 comedy less than eleven twelve years ago, Like how do 1:08:55.400 --> 1:08:56.439 you have this sage? 1:08:56.800 --> 1:09:01.559 Like because I enjoy it, You're like in the moment. 1:09:01.600 --> 1:09:03.880 Most people don't. They're not in the moment working for 1:09:03.960 --> 1:09:04.360 the next one. 1:09:04.479 --> 1:09:07.080 Look, I've met in a moment because I enjoyed the moment, 1:09:07.240 --> 1:09:09.400 Like this is fun for me, you know what I mean. 1:09:09.520 --> 1:09:12.040 So it's like this is you know, like this is 1:09:12.320 --> 1:09:15.360 this right here is fun and producing something that's fun 1:09:15.439 --> 1:09:17.640 and right being in the writing room is fun. So 1:09:17.680 --> 1:09:19.719 I'm not in the rush to leave or do something 1:09:19.760 --> 1:09:21.640 else if I'm having fun doing this, you know what 1:09:21.680 --> 1:09:23.280 I mean. I feel like a lot of people are 1:09:23.280 --> 1:09:25.400 always kind of trying to find that next thing. Once 1:09:25.439 --> 1:09:27.920 they get it, it's not it's not fun, and they're like, well, 1:09:27.960 --> 1:09:30.720 what's the others the next? I enjoy this part of it. 1:09:30.960 --> 1:09:32.360 So now that we know that you're not in a 1:09:32.439 --> 1:09:34.360 rush to do things, which is why we haven't seen 1:09:34.360 --> 1:09:36.600 you in too many projects. But However, I don't like 1:09:37.120 --> 1:09:39.880 when we saw you in Top five, I was like, okay, so. 1:09:40.120 --> 1:09:44.040 This a whole scene, fucking cut. I'm going to I'm 1:09:44.080 --> 1:09:45.360 going to direct this floor. 1:09:45.880 --> 1:09:47.280 I don't know. I'm still mad at Chris. 1:09:47.800 --> 1:09:49.320 But you did it, which is like that. 1:09:52.240 --> 1:09:52.640 I was. 1:09:53.000 --> 1:09:54.320 I had a whole thing. 1:09:54.400 --> 1:09:55.640 It was like me and Chris like one on one, 1:09:55.920 --> 1:09:58.160 I'm telling him to go to the projects and then 1:09:58.600 --> 1:10:01.759 and then but why in the movie, as like somebody 1:10:01.840 --> 1:10:05.559 that like has to make those decisions. I'm like, oh yeah, 1:10:05.560 --> 1:10:07.600 I guess that was a stupid transitional scene that you 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:10.559 did not need or whatever. But I was still mad 1:10:10.600 --> 1:10:12.000 that I that I was cut. 1:10:12.120 --> 1:10:14.080 But what was that like in that scene with all 1:10:14.120 --> 1:10:15.600 of those people at that one time, because you know 1:10:15.720 --> 1:10:17.240 when he went back to the projects and it was 1:10:17.320 --> 1:10:19.080 like you Sherry Shepherd. 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:21.840 Chris, Chris just the shit out of me, and that 1:10:22.080 --> 1:10:24.000 during that what you call it, it was hilarious. He 1:10:24.120 --> 1:10:27.120 goes we were because I remember in that that XM studio, 1:10:27.920 --> 1:10:31.160 that scene it's me and him and Rosario and Rosario. 1:10:30.960 --> 1:10:32.400 I'm like starstruck. 1:10:32.479 --> 1:10:36.519 I was, you know, and I'm like holy ship and 1:10:36.640 --> 1:10:39.320 she's like nice where You're like, oh my God, I 1:10:39.400 --> 1:10:43.240 think I think she loves me anytime. Exactly. She's just 1:10:43.320 --> 1:10:45.400 like a nice person that happens to beautiful like this, 1:10:45.960 --> 1:10:49.240 she must love me. She was super nice and then 1:10:49.400 --> 1:10:51.920 uh she was. She was like, where are you from? 1:10:52.479 --> 1:10:53.880 Because she's from the Lower east Side too, so we 1:10:53.920 --> 1:10:55.559 were talking about like the Lower east Side and she's like. 1:10:55.600 --> 1:10:58.080 Have I met you before? And I'm like, I don't. 1:10:58.280 --> 1:11:00.920 I don't think so, And that's all Chris Hurt. 1:11:01.400 --> 1:11:04.720 You don't think so. You don't know if you met 1:11:04.840 --> 1:11:09.800 Rosario Dawson, I don't know. And everybody's just dying like 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:12.599 have you met Beyonce? You remember that nigg. 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:20.120 Like and I'm like on set like an action. 1:11:20.120 --> 1:11:21.200 Like I don't know what I'm doing. 1:11:21.479 --> 1:11:23.040 Just give me out of here, just give me my 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:24.200 Uber pull back. 1:11:25.000 --> 1:11:27.320 So wait, what was your reaction when they told you 1:11:27.760 --> 1:11:30.920 we want you to try a weaken up dates? My 1:11:31.120 --> 1:11:36.559 reaction was no? Initially you said no initially? I mean 1:11:36.600 --> 1:11:41.000 it was like, it's the same reaction I hosting Emmy. 1:11:41.200 --> 1:11:44.720 I'm like, I don't know that, but could you collectively 1:11:44.920 --> 1:11:48.720 feel all of Black America watching you to make sure 1:11:48.720 --> 1:11:49.080 that you know? 1:11:49.560 --> 1:11:51.960 I never really, I never thought it'd be that I 1:11:52.120 --> 1:11:52.639 never thought. 1:11:54.640 --> 1:11:56.960 I always thought, if you if you let me talk, 1:11:57.400 --> 1:11:58.840 if you let me say what I want to say, 1:11:59.160 --> 1:12:02.479 somebody's gonna notice what I'm saying because I just like 1:12:02.640 --> 1:12:04.479 to say shit like that. You know. 1:12:04.680 --> 1:12:05.960 That's like since kindergarten. 1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:12.439 But on Weekend Update, the format was so rigid that 1:12:12.560 --> 1:12:16.120 it took me like maybe two seasons to even feel 1:12:16.240 --> 1:12:18.519 like I could say what I wanted to say, just 1:12:18.600 --> 1:12:20.760 because it was it was already. It's such a set 1:12:20.960 --> 1:12:24.800 formula that we were doing. I always feel like there's 1:12:25.080 --> 1:12:29.160 like anybody on TV has like there's like a stepdad 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:31.960 period for a lot of people that's replacing somebody. So 1:12:32.720 --> 1:12:34.599 a lot of times the audience is going to reject 1:12:34.640 --> 1:12:36.280 you anyway like a step dad, just because you're not 1:12:36.400 --> 1:12:38.080 just because you're not that, you know what I mean. 1:12:38.160 --> 1:12:40.280 Like if I think I saw like Trevor go through it, 1:12:40.360 --> 1:12:45.759 and you see I saw, you know, yes, Stephen, Stephen 1:12:45.800 --> 1:12:48.280 Colbert certainly with you know, just it's just it's not 1:12:48.479 --> 1:12:51.559 let him in. So I don't like it because it's 1:12:51.600 --> 1:12:53.519 not let them and it's like, yeah, but that's Stephen Colbert, 1:12:53.800 --> 1:12:56.280 but it's not let you know what I mean? Huh, 1:12:56.560 --> 1:12:59.719 you get after a while right now YouTube my favorite comment, 1:12:59.800 --> 1:13:02.800 I'm like, who's polaring? Well, I don't know. That's because 1:13:02.840 --> 1:13:05.360 when you when you, when you start doing, when you 1:13:05.439 --> 1:13:08.920 start doing you, when you start doing it, they realized, well, okay, 1:13:09.520 --> 1:13:10.080 he's not good. 1:13:10.200 --> 1:13:17.679 That's not coming back, is not coming back, and I'm waking. 1:13:17.520 --> 1:13:20.040 Pretty use of that role change in like every decade. 1:13:20.160 --> 1:13:23.400 I feel like, yeah, like Dennis millerded, but you have. 1:13:23.479 --> 1:13:25.960 To make it yours. There was a point, there was 1:13:26.000 --> 1:13:28.320 like a turning point for me on the show where 1:13:28.360 --> 1:13:31.519 I was like, if I didn't show up to work 1:13:31.720 --> 1:13:34.679 and someone else did this job, no one would care 1:13:35.680 --> 1:13:39.160 because there's nothing that I'm saying that only I can say. 1:13:39.840 --> 1:13:42.599 And that was how I started writing, when I was like, well, 1:13:42.640 --> 1:13:45.360 what can I say that nobody else can say? Do 1:13:45.439 --> 1:13:47.639 you write? Or does someone else? 1:13:47.920 --> 1:13:48.040 Now? 1:13:48.280 --> 1:13:51.240 Just now I write? At first, I didn't write any 1:13:51.320 --> 1:13:54.160 of it for like a season, I didn't write any 1:13:54.160 --> 1:13:57.120 of them and then and now and Lauren would be like, 1:13:57.280 --> 1:13:59.080 you need to write it, and I was like, well 1:13:59.200 --> 1:13:59.519 I don't. 1:14:00.120 --> 1:14:02.640 I don't think you realize what I write, you. 1:14:02.640 --> 1:14:05.000 Know what I mean? I didn't know remember in Trading 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:07.519 Places when they brought Eddie Murray to the house and 1:14:07.640 --> 1:14:09.000 he was in there was like, this is all your 1:14:09.040 --> 1:14:12.880 stuff and he's still stealing you. Like, no, you don't understand, 1:14:13.360 --> 1:14:16.719 you're you're stealing your stuff. Like that's how I felt 1:14:16.760 --> 1:14:19.600 at the show. They were like, just take control of it. 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:22.160 And I'd be like, yeah, okay, whatever, Hey what should 1:14:22.160 --> 1:14:25.040 I say next? They said, no, say what you want 1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:27.160 to say. So after a while I was like, slide 1:14:27.200 --> 1:14:30.559 in one and then I would be like, oh, I'm 1:14:30.600 --> 1:14:32.800 not okay, I slide in two. And the next thing 1:14:32.840 --> 1:14:34.080 I know, I was like, all right, this is what 1:14:34.160 --> 1:14:36.040 we're going to do. How much research do you have 1:14:36.120 --> 1:14:38.800 to do? Like do you now have to obsessively watch 1:14:38.960 --> 1:14:42.960 MSNBC and Fox News? And I don't. Everybody is everybody 1:14:43.120 --> 1:14:46.560 prizes himself that everybody that does my job or my 1:14:46.680 --> 1:14:48.720 type of job prizes himself to being the smartest guy 1:14:48.760 --> 1:14:51.479 in the room. I try to take the perspective of 1:14:51.600 --> 1:14:53.200 the guy that does that's the smartest guy in the 1:14:53.240 --> 1:14:55.800 room that doesn't know anything about what's going on. Like 1:14:55.880 --> 1:14:58.400 I tried. My grandmother is my comedy influence. When it 1:14:58.439 --> 1:15:00.519 comes to a weekend update, I'm like, if I told 1:15:00.560 --> 1:15:04.360 my grandmother what happened. What would her reaction immediate? You 1:15:04.479 --> 1:15:07.679 know what I mean? And that's how you get cheap cracker, 1:15:07.880 --> 1:15:10.920 you know what I mean, That's how you get that though. 1:15:10.960 --> 1:15:13.599 It's just like, what's the what do people who don't 1:15:13.640 --> 1:15:15.880 watch the news all the time? I think when they 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:18.320 hear this ship, it's like the kind of lowest common 1:15:18.360 --> 1:15:21.519 denominator of where's that connection? And that's kind of where 1:15:21.560 --> 1:15:25.320 I write from. But you know that's my thing, and 1:15:25.479 --> 1:15:29.479 Colin does the other thing and then it so jump 1:15:29.560 --> 1:15:34.519 into the Emmys? How long does it well to August? Now? 1:15:34.560 --> 1:15:36.559 And when when are they? We just had our first 1:15:37.160 --> 1:15:39.200 We just had a meeting yesterday, not our first meeting, 1:15:39.240 --> 1:15:43.240 but we had a meeting, a meeting yesterday. We're gonna 1:15:43.320 --> 1:15:45.200 it's gonna be fun. I think we would be the 1:15:45.439 --> 1:15:47.600 SNL team that you work with? Are you working with? 1:15:47.760 --> 1:15:49.479 The is there an mmy team? We got we got 1:15:49.520 --> 1:15:51.160 a few ringers, but we got a lot of us 1:15:51.200 --> 1:15:53.960 and know people and we kind of got a good balance. 1:15:55.439 --> 1:15:58.080 Does it require like are you you know, are you 1:15:58.360 --> 1:16:05.360 entertaining uh you know, spirit fingers, musical opening or is 1:16:05.439 --> 1:16:07.640 it just like all right? 1:16:07.640 --> 1:16:10.479 There might be something might be some elements of music. 1:16:11.040 --> 1:16:15.160 We wanted to feel like Essenel is hosting the Yemmy's, 1:16:15.479 --> 1:16:18.880 but while still keeping the integrity of the Yemmys, you know, 1:16:18.960 --> 1:16:20.760 like we don't want to kind of spoof it or 1:16:20.920 --> 1:16:22.479 lampoon it. But is it me? 1:16:23.080 --> 1:16:26.000 Me thinks Lauren also got a special relationship with the 1:16:26.080 --> 1:16:28.800 Emmys because, like in retrospect you think about the Tina Amy, 1:16:28.920 --> 1:16:30.840 like a lot of alums have kind of hosted that. 1:16:30.880 --> 1:16:32.840 As well well, the way they did Well Amy did 1:16:33.000 --> 1:16:39.160 goldenlu They rotated through the networks the Emmys, so like this, 1:16:41.320 --> 1:16:44.799 so when NBC has it, I think it's been Jimmy, 1:16:45.080 --> 1:16:47.320 and it's been Jimmy is like four years ago, and 1:16:47.479 --> 1:16:48.599 Seth's done it before. 1:16:48.760 --> 1:16:51.320 They have a favorite host so far, Like for awarding 1:16:51.960 --> 1:16:53.880 any award show? Have you watched an award show once? 1:16:53.920 --> 1:16:56.160 He was like, Yo, I like Tina Aamy a lot. 1:16:56.200 --> 1:16:58.000 I think they I think I love what they do together. 1:16:58.080 --> 1:17:00.479 I think they're they're really good. And I think I 1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:02.439 think there are two people that when they do what 1:17:02.560 --> 1:17:05.080 they can do, what only they can do. You know 1:17:05.120 --> 1:17:05.479 what I mean. 1:17:05.560 --> 1:17:08.000 I guess you can't just have two random people do 1:17:08.120 --> 1:17:08.719 the same app. 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:11.519 I was going to say since it's such a staple 1:17:11.600 --> 1:17:14.120 where you know you have the Peacha delivery guy in 1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:18.000 the audience thing, you should just take them to like 1:17:18.160 --> 1:17:19.120 Roscoes or something. 1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:21.120 I would love I would love to put I got 1:17:21.280 --> 1:17:24.040 we got a couple of tricks of us. I got 1:17:24.080 --> 1:17:25.680 a couple of tricks of us leaves that we were 1:17:25.720 --> 1:17:27.479 talking about that could be really fun. I'll tell you. 1:17:27.600 --> 1:17:29.840 I can't spoil it. Don't spoil'll kill me. 1:17:29.920 --> 1:17:31.719 But you're gonna have you need some que cars because 1:17:31.720 --> 1:17:32.360 you don't watch TV. 1:17:32.520 --> 1:17:34.360 So all those people in the audit we got que cars. 1:17:34.400 --> 1:17:37.360 Then we got what you call it to problem. Yeah, hopefully, 1:17:37.439 --> 1:17:39.400 Well we got to figure all that out though, because 1:17:39.479 --> 1:17:42.080 you can't show the que cars on TV. So actually 1:17:42.120 --> 1:17:44.560 by the time this air is this it will have 1:17:45.720 --> 1:17:46.240 when it's the. 1:17:46.240 --> 1:17:48.760 Air date again for the Emmys, I think late September. 1:17:49.040 --> 1:17:55.600 Yeah, like I think time spoil it? No, no, no, 1:17:56.280 --> 1:18:01.880 maybe all right, I don't know. I don't know Mario 1:18:02.000 --> 1:18:12.640 one about that unlikely, so I didn't I didn't get it. 1:18:12.680 --> 1:18:14.280 I was like, this ship is a hit, y'all really 1:18:14.400 --> 1:18:16.960 like this song? Yeah, Mario. 1:18:18.320 --> 1:18:21.800 Favorite, I think about Mario Wrio. 1:18:23.320 --> 1:18:27.559 Yeah, I didn't know, so any any plans for any 1:18:27.680 --> 1:18:29.680 other stand up specials. 1:18:29.280 --> 1:18:31.920 Or yeah I'm working on the special now. 1:18:32.040 --> 1:18:35.000 But another one that I think is where I feel 1:18:35.000 --> 1:18:38.320 like specials are just not really because so many people 1:18:38.439 --> 1:18:43.960 have specials that it's almost like, yeah, it's special anymore money, Yeah, 1:18:43.960 --> 1:18:45.920 they gave me a little it was it was okay, 1:18:46.000 --> 1:18:49.400 they didn't they didn't monique me, they didn't me. They 1:18:49.439 --> 1:18:52.439 did they took care of me a little bit. But uh, 1:18:53.160 --> 1:18:55.160 it's it's not even so much. I don't know. I 1:18:55.240 --> 1:18:57.000 just feel I always like to go against the ground. 1:18:57.000 --> 1:18:58.680 Everybody's going one way, I kind of want to go 1:18:58.800 --> 1:19:01.679 another way. I was thinking of something a little bit different. 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:05.400 Everybody seems to be trying to do stuff a little 1:19:05.439 --> 1:19:09.679 bit more conceptual. Now that's, you know, just because they're 1:19:09.680 --> 1:19:13.200 trying to stand out. But I don't know, it's just specials. 1:19:13.240 --> 1:19:18.960 It's just weird, like when you have access to producing them, 1:19:19.120 --> 1:19:20.920 when it's when it's not like four year. When I 1:19:21.000 --> 1:19:22.840 was a kid, it was like four specials would come 1:19:22.880 --> 1:19:25.080 out a year, Like you waited for Chris Rock Special 1:19:25.120 --> 1:19:27.600 because that was one of three specials that. 1:19:27.640 --> 1:19:29.439 You were going to get to see Kat Williams or whatever. 1:19:29.439 --> 1:19:31.840 And that's kind of why they were so big, and 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:34.960 when the special came on repeat, it was that one, 1:19:35.200 --> 1:19:36.560 so everybody kind of knew it. 1:19:36.720 --> 1:19:40.839 And I feel like, now there's ten a week have Netflix. 1:19:40.840 --> 1:19:45.479 It's like, who oh yeah, a millennial nasty comedian. 1:19:46.360 --> 1:19:49.280 Yeah, it's it's a lot, and not just Netflix, it's 1:19:49.320 --> 1:19:51.960 just it's everywhere. But the cool thing that I do 1:19:52.160 --> 1:19:54.479 like about Netflix though not just because they paid me last, 1:19:54.600 --> 1:19:59.840 but they people tend to watch multiple in a row, 1:20:00.080 --> 1:20:03.880 so like like when Dave's special comes out, I get 1:20:03.920 --> 1:20:06.400 a lot of hits about my special because I'm like, oh, 1:20:06.520 --> 1:20:07.040 so you saw it? 1:20:07.640 --> 1:20:10.559 Was like if you like that guy, yeah, and then 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:12.000 they kind of throw you out. 1:20:12.439 --> 1:20:14.960 So it is cool because the people that are going 1:20:15.120 --> 1:20:17.880 like looking for one guy will you know, discover a 1:20:17.960 --> 1:20:18.439 lot more. 1:20:18.760 --> 1:20:20.479 So that is that is a benefit. 1:20:20.880 --> 1:20:23.559 But for me, I just think conceptually to make people 1:20:23.640 --> 1:20:25.960 talk about it, it can't just be did you hear 1:20:26.080 --> 1:20:28.360 his you see his special? It's gotta be did you 1:20:28.400 --> 1:20:30.000 see this thing about that? You know? It's got to 1:20:30.000 --> 1:20:34.360 be a little bit more interact with people on Yeah, 1:20:34.840 --> 1:20:36.880 Oh that's fun. I don't get to do that a 1:20:36.960 --> 1:20:43.599 lot anymore, but they don't let me. They don't yeah, 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:48.280 they don't really are you. I know, I gotta start. 1:20:48.479 --> 1:20:49.719 I gotta start dragging my nuts. 1:20:50.000 --> 1:20:50.160 Man. 1:20:50.200 --> 1:20:51.720 I want to ask you alway want to ask you, 1:20:52.400 --> 1:20:54.840 how did What was your reaction when the text from 1:20:54.840 --> 1:20:59.599 old Girl hitting neck NI? I just wanted to dap 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:02.640 you up from Yo, you handled that ship? I was like, 1:21:02.760 --> 1:21:07.360 word the fun up, Here's what happened here. So I 1:21:07.479 --> 1:21:11.240 got hit up by page six on Facebook. Literally she 1:21:11.400 --> 1:21:14.639 was like, hey, we got this, uh this lady that's 1:21:14.680 --> 1:21:16.960 been saying that you did x y Z the hood 1:21:17.040 --> 1:21:20.080 and you know you were really mean and rude and nasty, 1:21:20.120 --> 1:21:22.080 and she We're gonna run the story. 1:21:22.600 --> 1:21:23.759 Do you have any comments? 1:21:23.760 --> 1:21:25.599 And she showed me the story she was gonna run, 1:21:25.880 --> 1:21:28.000 and it was just basically close on it that I 1:21:28.080 --> 1:21:30.240 was a piece of ships that I was like, did 1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:31.799 this you know, just from texting? 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:33.719 And I was like, none of that shit happened. 1:21:33.760 --> 1:21:35.800 Like I have every text and it's not even that 1:21:35.880 --> 1:21:38.519 I saved text, it's just I never delete text. Yeah, 1:21:38.760 --> 1:21:41.000 I just don't think too, you know. So I was like, Yo, 1:21:41.160 --> 1:21:43.800 I found her number and I was like, this is 1:21:44.000 --> 1:21:46.640 every interaction I've ever had with her and I'm not 1:21:46.680 --> 1:21:48.599 even gonna tell you my side, I'll let you tell 1:21:48.680 --> 1:21:51.240 me my side. And she was like, okay, can I 1:21:51.400 --> 1:21:53.120 use these? And I was like, yeah, I'm thinking she 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:57.720 means use a quote. She's gonna the fucking screenshots that 1:21:57.840 --> 1:21:59.840 I sent her, so it looked way it looked like 1:21:59.880 --> 1:22:01.600 I was trying to I was like, no, I was 1:22:01.680 --> 1:22:03.880 really just showing her, thinking that she was going to 1:22:03.960 --> 1:22:05.720 quote one line or two or whatever and say well 1:22:05.760 --> 1:22:08.000 this is bullshit or even or take it to an 1:22:08.080 --> 1:22:09.960 editor and like hey, we can't run this story. And 1:22:10.040 --> 1:22:12.160 then they ran it, and then it kind of I 1:22:12.400 --> 1:22:15.040 almost wish I didn't say anything about it, because then 1:22:15.080 --> 1:22:16.160 maybe it just would have went away. 1:22:16.760 --> 1:22:19.439 But I also think if that ship would have. 1:22:19.520 --> 1:22:22.040 Ruined me, like in the climbing of me Too and 1:22:22.160 --> 1:22:27.120 the climbing of you know, the harassment, I would have 1:22:27.160 --> 1:22:28.880 never been able to defend myself. If I didn't have 1:22:28.960 --> 1:22:31.160 those no, no, no, I would have been fried. I 1:22:31.200 --> 1:22:34.880 appreciate you for clapping back. I was like, where the 1:22:34.920 --> 1:22:35.280 funk up? 1:22:36.960 --> 1:22:41.920 No, that was my I learned my lesson. Yeah, that's 1:22:41.960 --> 1:22:44.880 what I mean. When's this come out? 1:22:49.360 --> 1:23:03.000 A wait? That was a rail celebrity, uh tender status. 1:23:04.720 --> 1:23:05.760 Not necessarily. 1:23:07.120 --> 1:23:08.679 It's the same ship. 1:23:09.520 --> 1:23:10.240 No, you have to be. 1:23:12.040 --> 1:23:15.759 Accepted, you know, like how you go to the hallal 1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:17.920 cart and one's got a long line and one doesn't. 1:23:18.240 --> 1:23:21.599 It's the same fucking meat. It's the same ship. It's 1:23:21.680 --> 1:23:25.880 just one got a line, one don't. From the results, yeah, 1:23:26.000 --> 1:23:28.880 I mean really, I mean look, it's the same I 1:23:28.920 --> 1:23:30.080 didn't know that was a ray of fel. 1:23:30.280 --> 1:23:32.479 The only thing I liked about Ray though, is that 1:23:32.560 --> 1:23:34.720 you can't scream shot on. 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:38.880 The well yeah they warned you. Yeah, like I did. 1:23:38.920 --> 1:23:44.400 It's like, oh damn, you can't. You can't scream? So 1:23:44.520 --> 1:23:46.719 what so what is the rail? And I'm not kidding. 1:23:46.760 --> 1:23:50.000 So it's a it's a spot. It's a spot that like. 1:23:50.280 --> 1:23:55.680 You know, I might see Demu Levado's real joining. I 1:23:55.800 --> 1:23:59.040 might see you know, like I see Peers like yeah, 1:23:59.360 --> 1:24:01.840 singers seven Street. 1:24:01.800 --> 1:24:03.200 Like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. 1:24:03.320 --> 1:24:06.840 You know, it's basically a tender where you will see 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:09.120 more writers people to. 1:24:09.160 --> 1:24:12.559 Lose, right exactly, there you go, I got it. Yeah yeah, 1:24:13.000 --> 1:24:17.880 like can't keep it in my account. Still ship. Damn. 1:24:18.000 --> 1:24:22.000 So if you're looking for a sad immediately and then 1:24:22.280 --> 1:24:25.040 what really hurt me too was you know Dan Soda 1:24:25.240 --> 1:24:30.600 very funny comedian Dan Soda. He's he's a writer on 1:24:31.880 --> 1:24:36.160 Billions to show Billions, and so I told them about 1:24:36.560 --> 1:24:40.560 Ray like a while ago, and so he wrote it 1:24:40.720 --> 1:24:42.960 in the show and he was like, Michael Chay's on 1:24:43.120 --> 1:24:47.960 it on the show. So people that watch watch it's 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:50.280 like an episode where somebody says, Michael cha is on 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:54.680 Riyo and I was like you, So now people are like, 1:24:54.920 --> 1:24:58.120 are you really on Rya? So now I'm like associated 1:24:58.120 --> 1:24:59.680 with ride. They need to throw me some money. So 1:25:01.000 --> 1:25:04.599 between that and that chick, I gave Ryan a lot 1:25:04.680 --> 1:25:05.080 of business. 1:25:05.479 --> 1:25:08.000 I'm certain that is hilarious. 1:25:08.160 --> 1:25:12.200 Yeah, your your ig is some of the most dangerous 1:25:12.800 --> 1:25:16.280 comedy they don't I've ever seen. 1:25:16.439 --> 1:25:17.800 I feel like you use it because you know it 1:25:17.800 --> 1:25:19.280 would be going in twenty four. 1:25:19.160 --> 1:25:21.880 Hours, sometimes less I deleted, sometimes even quicker. 1:25:22.400 --> 1:25:24.600 It's just fun. So you leave your comments open for 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:25.599 them for people. 1:25:25.479 --> 1:25:28.679 To my messages. I live open and I like screen 1:25:28.720 --> 1:25:29.720 cap and I answer it. 1:25:30.800 --> 1:25:33.080 I like it better than Twitter because on Twitter, like 1:25:33.280 --> 1:25:36.479 they could take they can just at you and then 1:25:36.560 --> 1:25:39.439 they get your whole followers to read all of that. Ship. 1:25:39.760 --> 1:25:41.519 At this I get to select. I get to pick 1:25:41.640 --> 1:25:45.040 what I want people to see. You I don't want people. Yeah, 1:25:46.040 --> 1:25:49.400 motherfucker could like at you and then everybody that filed 1:25:49.439 --> 1:25:52.040 that read your ship. They see that. That's why they 1:25:52.080 --> 1:25:53.880 say the wow, crazy shit to you, so that they 1:25:53.920 --> 1:25:56.840 could be attached to and then the motherfuckers they use 1:25:56.920 --> 1:25:59.080 your own thing. I never thought that, Michael, I don't 1:25:59.160 --> 1:26:02.519 like it. Yeah, speaking of dangerous comedy, where you at 1:26:02.680 --> 1:26:06.320 SNL when Luis c K did the monologue the child, 1:26:06.840 --> 1:26:08.679 how did that shit go? Like, how did that come about? 1:26:09.120 --> 1:26:12.280 I mean at that point it was still Louis, you know, 1:26:12.360 --> 1:26:15.760 it was still like everyone loved Louis, so he could 1:26:16.040 --> 1:26:18.600 you know. Like that's the old thing about comedy for me, 1:26:18.840 --> 1:26:23.639 is it's not so much what it is, it's who 1:26:23.720 --> 1:26:26.360 can do it, you know, kind of like the Richard 1:26:26.400 --> 1:26:29.120 Pryor thing, Like, it's not so much what he's saying, 1:26:29.200 --> 1:26:32.280 it's that he's saying it in the in that you 1:26:32.320 --> 1:26:35.799 know what I mean, in that format that you're like, damn, 1:26:35.920 --> 1:26:38.000 that's bold, you know. So like for Louie to come 1:26:38.080 --> 1:26:41.800 on National TV and say some shit like fucking kids 1:26:41.920 --> 1:26:45.080 must be good, You're like, what you know what I mean? 1:26:45.160 --> 1:26:47.120 Like on network and this is the first thing we're 1:26:47.160 --> 1:26:49.240 seeing this this is supposed to make us watch the 1:26:49.360 --> 1:26:52.120 rest of the show. It's just bold. It's just like 1:26:52.280 --> 1:26:54.439 fun to watch just on that. You know, like you 1:26:54.640 --> 1:26:56.760 that you're even willing to try that. But that's one 1:26:56.760 --> 1:26:59.120 of the dope things about our show is that that's 1:26:59.320 --> 1:27:02.280 where you can do that. That's always got like a 1:27:02.360 --> 1:27:04.040 writer's room that came up with that stuff. No, that 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:07.800 was him, that was him, that was Louis. Stand ups 1:27:07.920 --> 1:27:12.240 usually will work out their monologue the whole week, okay, 1:27:13.439 --> 1:27:15.320 and do they have to run it by y'all before 1:27:15.640 --> 1:27:17.479 or I see it? The first time we see it 1:27:17.640 --> 1:27:20.400 is usually a dress rehearsal. They don't even do it 1:27:20.439 --> 1:27:22.400 through run through. They'll do it at dresshearsal with a 1:27:22.479 --> 1:27:27.240 live audience because telling jokes to nobody is like very 1:27:27.360 --> 1:27:29.640 demoralizing because you have to hear the last you know 1:27:29.680 --> 1:27:30.000 what I mean. 1:27:30.120 --> 1:27:32.360 It's just like, Yeah, they do that a lot. At 1:27:32.840 --> 1:27:35.479 thirty Rocks. Someone has to go through their routine to 1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:39.519 an empty audience. Yeah, that's rough, that's right. 1:27:39.680 --> 1:27:41.719 I remember when I worked at The Daily Show, John 1:27:41.800 --> 1:27:43.880 would go through run through and he would do all 1:27:43.920 --> 1:27:49.759 of the jokes to just like us. Yeah, like maybe 1:27:49.880 --> 1:27:53.400 twenty of us, maybe fifteen, fifteen, twenty of us, and 1:27:54.360 --> 1:27:56.920 that's how he would guess, would then make decisions based 1:27:56.960 --> 1:27:59.559 on We would all huddle up right after and he'd 1:27:59.600 --> 1:28:01.400 be like, move this, do this, do this, do this, 1:28:01.880 --> 1:28:04.439 and then we have one more meeting with a big 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:08.840 ass whiteboard. And that was the show. John was a 1:28:08.920 --> 1:28:11.519 motherfucker Like I never seen anybody that kind of knew 1:28:11.560 --> 1:28:15.080 the audience reaction before the audience knew it better than John. 1:28:15.160 --> 1:28:16.080 He was so good at that. 1:28:17.960 --> 1:28:20.280 You bounced back and forth because yeah, I went. 1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:22.519 To I went to the Daily Show. I didn't have 1:28:22.680 --> 1:28:24.160 It was just pretty much I didn't have a summer. 1:28:24.240 --> 1:28:26.280 As soon as that Snow wrapped, I went straight to 1:28:26.360 --> 1:28:28.519 the Daily Show, And as soon as the Daily Show 1:28:28.800 --> 1:28:30.240 and Snow came back, I went. 1:28:30.160 --> 1:28:33.400 Straight back to Was that John's last season or one 1:28:33.600 --> 1:28:34.519 was John's last season? 1:28:34.640 --> 1:28:38.120 I was like maybe three four months before he left. 1:28:38.800 --> 1:28:42.080 I didn't know he was leaving though, I had no 1:28:42.200 --> 1:28:45.160 idea that's both John's right or no no, no, no 1:28:45.320 --> 1:28:48.120 no no. When I remember, like one of my last weeks, 1:28:48.160 --> 1:28:51.000 he was given Trevor the tour to come in as 1:28:51.080 --> 1:28:58.000 like a correspondent. He was like a special court. He 1:28:58.120 --> 1:28:59.960 was like kind of doing what Wilmore was going to 1:29:00.160 --> 1:29:03.040 be doing. Ah, can you remember what Will Moore used 1:29:03.080 --> 1:29:05.840 to do? Yeah, that's what he like. That was kind 1:29:05.880 --> 1:29:07.400 of how it was presented, like, oh, yeah, well, you know, 1:29:08.120 --> 1:29:11.880 Trevor's gonna you know, but he knew otherwise. I don't know. 1:29:11.960 --> 1:29:12.800 I don't think he did. 1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:15.000 I don't think he I don't think he did because 1:29:15.000 --> 1:29:17.640 I think for a while they wasn't sure who's gonna be, 1:29:18.520 --> 1:29:21.360 and then they decided before they decided trup. That's what 1:29:21.520 --> 1:29:23.880 I know. I never really talked to Trevor about it. 1:29:24.360 --> 1:29:26.120 TV funny at everybody else's job. 1:29:30.920 --> 1:29:34.000 Are you looking forward to uh, season forty or is 1:29:34.040 --> 1:29:35.800 it forty two? Now this is forty this will be 1:29:35.880 --> 1:29:38.439 forty four? Jesus christ is Obama? 1:29:38.560 --> 1:29:38.760 Yeah? 1:29:39.479 --> 1:29:43.080 Wow, you're right, dude, are you? Are you looking forward 1:29:43.120 --> 1:29:46.240 to it? Or is it like I am Obama? Ye? 1:29:46.280 --> 1:29:46.759 Or Michael? 1:29:47.000 --> 1:29:52.280 I think that I think that this one's gonna be 1:29:52.360 --> 1:29:55.479 a fun one, honestly, because I feel like everybody's kind 1:29:55.479 --> 1:29:58.880 of hawking out. I think like Kate McKinnon's is a superstar, 1:29:59.120 --> 1:30:03.160 Leslie's you know, star, and I think I think like 1:30:03.240 --> 1:30:05.240 this is going to be like a fun season where 1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:08.360 everybody kind of starts to I think, like, it's not 1:30:08.520 --> 1:30:12.800 as Trump heavy anymore. How do you do that? I 1:30:12.840 --> 1:30:16.320 don't think it will be ill, do you? Yeah? Do you? 1:30:17.400 --> 1:30:21.840 I mean not that if you expect impeachment action or whatever. Midterms. 1:30:23.160 --> 1:30:26.800 I have faith that something will happen in the midterms. 1:30:27.479 --> 1:30:32.280 You know, something will happen. 1:30:32.120 --> 1:30:36.120 Either more collusion or the House will I don't think 1:30:36.160 --> 1:30:38.479 they got him. You don't think they got him yet. 1:30:38.479 --> 1:30:39.479 I don't think they got him. 1:30:39.560 --> 1:30:42.880 But it's almost weird because it's like you when you're 1:30:42.880 --> 1:30:45.000 about like to U see two dudes about the fight, 1:30:45.080 --> 1:30:46.960 and they say, like, the dude that's taking off the 1:30:47.000 --> 1:30:49.880 most clothes don't want to fight. Yeah, I think that's 1:30:49.920 --> 1:30:51.479 what my little I don't think they I don't think 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:52.519 they want I don't think they got it. 1:30:54.160 --> 1:30:55.320 Well, I don't. 1:30:55.439 --> 1:30:57.360 I don't know. It's kind of weird. I'm in the 1:30:57.439 --> 1:31:00.280 minority with that. I'll say that, but I just think 1:31:00.320 --> 1:31:01.840 they would have did it by that well. As a 1:31:01.880 --> 1:31:05.120 black person, I gotta have faith in something. Man impossible. 1:31:06.000 --> 1:31:08.280 How long? But how long isay? I'm not the biggest history, 1:31:08.320 --> 1:31:09.559 but how long did Watergate take? 1:31:09.960 --> 1:31:14.519 How long was that not this long nine months because 1:31:14.600 --> 1:31:17.360 basically Democrats have the house, Like if we just get 1:31:17.400 --> 1:31:20.840 the house, this nightmare couldn't you know, But we don't 1:31:20.920 --> 1:31:22.040 have the house we need. 1:31:23.160 --> 1:31:23.800 We need five. 1:31:24.280 --> 1:31:29.439 So but it's I'm just saying that either way, like 1:31:29.760 --> 1:31:34.000 if if he continues, that's technically. 1:31:36.000 --> 1:31:41.120 Good for you per se if Trump continues, I mean, 1:31:41.160 --> 1:31:47.200 because I feel this is like SNL what the cultural No, 1:31:47.760 --> 1:31:50.479 we could say that no one. 1:31:50.720 --> 1:31:53.160 But the thing is is that you guys are more 1:31:53.680 --> 1:31:57.160 you guys are more digestible. Like for me, we can 1:31:57.280 --> 1:32:01.320 Update is actually a news program now because that scares me. 1:32:01.640 --> 1:32:06.080 I know, I know, I watched real News seriously, it's yeah, 1:32:06.160 --> 1:32:09.519 it's no, No, nomics are more the way I present 1:32:09.640 --> 1:32:12.000 it is in a way that's more digestible. I mean, 1:32:12.040 --> 1:32:12.519 you don't. 1:32:12.360 --> 1:32:16.519 Realize that every every diatribe that you do on weekend 1:32:16.600 --> 1:32:19.679 up date winds up being a heavily passed around. 1:32:20.360 --> 1:32:24.080 Yeah, but I understand it on on that on that front, 1:32:24.120 --> 1:32:27.120 but I'm saying there's stuff I feel like we could 1:32:27.240 --> 1:32:30.360 do on week and Update that isn't necessarily Trump. That's 1:32:30.479 --> 1:32:32.479 way more important. Like I watched like the real Estate 1:32:32.600 --> 1:32:35.599 that Oliver has. I watched the real Estate that even 1:32:35.640 --> 1:32:37.840 Trevor has, but I mean they do. He does this 1:32:37.880 --> 1:32:39.599 show every day, so it's a little bit less fair 1:32:39.720 --> 1:32:42.400 to say to compare it. But you know, like there's 1:32:42.600 --> 1:32:45.600 there's a lot of important ship that we could be 1:32:45.680 --> 1:32:51.160 talking about that this motherfucker right, and it's like, really, 1:32:51.200 --> 1:32:53.720 I got to talk about his wife now, God, talk 1:32:53.760 --> 1:32:56.720 about it. 1:32:56.880 --> 1:32:59.519 I don't think it's even Trump specific, but I feel 1:32:59.640 --> 1:33:03.960 that the domino effect of like we definitely would not 1:33:04.280 --> 1:33:08.000 have me too if it weren't for the Trump administration 1:33:08.720 --> 1:33:10.920 that I feel. I don't feel there's a lot of things. Yes, 1:33:11.080 --> 1:33:12.280 I agree with you, I. 1:33:12.280 --> 1:33:15.000 Don't think so. I mean, because it would have happened 1:33:15.160 --> 1:33:16.120 during the Obama. 1:33:15.960 --> 1:33:19.519 Because remember what happened on inauguration Day, a women's march. 1:33:20.280 --> 1:33:24.360 Yeah, against everything, like whatever he stands for. 1:33:24.520 --> 1:33:27.720 Then it's like we're gonna sort of seek it out 1:33:27.800 --> 1:33:30.320 and everyone else other than him and make them pay for. 1:33:31.160 --> 1:33:33.000 What he represents. We can't get him out of the paint. 1:33:33.120 --> 1:33:35.240 Yeah, So even if you don't have to talk about 1:33:35.280 --> 1:33:38.120 him specifically, I mean, we're you're gonna talk about immigration, 1:33:38.240 --> 1:33:39.160 which is a result of him. 1:33:39.200 --> 1:33:40.280 You're going to talk about me too. 1:33:40.439 --> 1:33:43.639 He's right, everything even the banks and getting the access 1:33:43.680 --> 1:33:44.320 to our Facebook. 1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:44.840 That's his fault. 1:33:44.840 --> 1:33:45.559 I'm gonna blame him. 1:33:45.600 --> 1:33:48.400 Yeah, you're gonna have Zuckerberg jokes. And the way the 1:33:48.479 --> 1:33:52.640 Way Update the Way Update is delegated. It's you know, 1:33:52.760 --> 1:33:57.040 it's about four minutes and then a three minute future 1:33:57.680 --> 1:34:00.080 and then you know what I mean, three minutes and 1:34:00.160 --> 1:34:04.080 then maybe a three minute feature and you know, so 1:34:04.160 --> 1:34:07.120 it's like the real estate that we have to be 1:34:07.240 --> 1:34:09.040 able to talk about, and then it's between two people, 1:34:09.120 --> 1:34:12.120 so you cut that. It's like it's almost like like income. 1:34:12.600 --> 1:34:14.479 You gotta cut that in happening, you know what I mean. 1:34:14.960 --> 1:34:17.479 So you get two minutes? Are you pretty much? I 1:34:17.560 --> 1:34:19.600 pretty much get four minutes to talk about everything I 1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:22.560 want to talk about in the week, and some of 1:34:22.640 --> 1:34:25.760 it has to be trumped. So it's like, how do 1:34:25.840 --> 1:34:30.519 you not talk? Like if didn't? Motherfucker is tweeting Saturday morning, 1:34:30.680 --> 1:34:33.800 what's Saturday afternoon? Which happens. I can almost set my 1:34:33.960 --> 1:34:38.800 clock to this. Motherfucker. He tweets Saturday at like eight 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:42.080 in the morning, between anywhere between seven and eleven in 1:34:42.120 --> 1:34:45.040 the morning. I gotta look at it. We gotta relook 1:34:45.040 --> 1:34:47.040 at all of the jokes that we have figure out, 1:34:47.040 --> 1:34:50.040 all right, well, what development is this more important than this? 1:34:50.200 --> 1:34:51.519 What do we have to so like we have all 1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:54.240 our jokes on the table, we be we gotta lift ship, 1:34:54.560 --> 1:34:56.879 all right, this is this is not even important anymore. 1:34:56.920 --> 1:34:59.320 This feels weird to say this. By the time, you know, 1:34:59.360 --> 1:35:03.559 at midnight, this is gonna be old news. So it's 1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:08.240 just exhausting. But not even so much update specific. I 1:35:08.280 --> 1:35:12.360 just mean show wise. I think that people have seen 1:35:12.479 --> 1:35:16.599 the impression. People have seen us go through, they've seen 1:35:16.680 --> 1:35:19.200 us color it. There's not so I feel like this 1:35:19.400 --> 1:35:21.560 is gonna be a year where we maybe take it 1:35:21.640 --> 1:35:24.559 to the next level of just creatively of different things 1:35:25.000 --> 1:35:28.400 that's possible with our cast, and not let this motherfucker dominate. 1:35:28.760 --> 1:35:30.880 Maybe you take the lead and the news will follow. 1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:33.120 That's what I mean. You know, it's not just me. 1:35:33.280 --> 1:35:33.960 It's not up to me. 1:35:34.040 --> 1:35:36.120 It's also but I mean as a show, like because 1:35:36.160 --> 1:35:37.679 the news is doing the same thing that you're saying 1:35:37.760 --> 1:35:40.200 y'all trying to stay away from, like MSNBC, CNN, it's 1:35:40.280 --> 1:35:41.559 all the same all the time. 1:35:41.680 --> 1:35:44.400 His name so yeah, and he knows and he's he's 1:35:44.439 --> 1:35:46.559 playing it like an instrument. Man. He knows he knows 1:35:46.640 --> 1:35:49.840 exactly when to say some crazy shit about Lebron, you 1:35:49.920 --> 1:35:53.400 know exactly. Yeah, he knows when, he knows when to dominate. 1:35:53.760 --> 1:35:58.240 Motherfucker knows how to control the news source. And everybody's 1:35:58.240 --> 1:36:01.240 guilty because we all, I think it's interesting. We all 1:36:01.280 --> 1:36:03.240 want the clout, you know, like we all want to 1:36:03.320 --> 1:36:06.439 have the witty, perfect thing to say about what he's saying. 1:36:07.000 --> 1:36:11.679 And it's just like, dude, you don't realize you're playing along. 1:36:11.840 --> 1:36:14.240 You know, you're really just you don't get it. 1:36:14.600 --> 1:36:17.000 The Hollywood star fame people, they already took the lead. 1:36:17.040 --> 1:36:18.600 They said, just take it away, so it won't be 1:36:18.680 --> 1:36:22.040 no debate, no argument has gone good. 1:36:22.520 --> 1:36:28.480 Wait, so, speaking of distraction, in wrapping up this episode. 1:36:28.720 --> 1:36:32.679 This was fun as hell. By Yeah, this is thanks 1:36:32.720 --> 1:36:34.519 for letting me come up here. 1:36:34.760 --> 1:36:40.080 You're welcome. I have to say, uh, dude, you have 1:36:40.360 --> 1:36:46.400 to make more Willie. You don't know. 1:36:50.040 --> 1:36:55.840 Look, I have three YouTube mixes on my private YouTube page. 1:36:56.680 --> 1:37:01.479 One's all Michael, one's all Soul Trained. The other is Willie. 1:37:02.000 --> 1:37:03.200 Who was Willy? Who Willy? 1:37:03.800 --> 1:37:05.080 Is this this? 1:37:06.000 --> 1:37:08.760 I'm probably no, No, it's it's funny ship. 1:37:09.280 --> 1:37:13.479 It's it's a character that Michael's written written for Keenan Thompson. 1:37:16.000 --> 1:37:20.960 Yeah, how he's the most optimistic. He's the most optimistic guy. 1:37:20.960 --> 1:37:23.240 I know, he's my neighbor. He always sees the bright 1:37:23.320 --> 1:37:26.400 side of everything. But he just has the worst life ever. 1:37:26.560 --> 1:37:33.400 So it's really sad he's been involved with. It's really familiar, 1:37:33.560 --> 1:37:35.640 like you know, he is the worst luck on the 1:37:35.760 --> 1:37:39.000 worst luck on nerve and uh, he's always trying to 1:37:39.080 --> 1:37:42.360 cheer me up and he just keeps using an example. Wait, Will, 1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:46.240 he's based on a real person. No, Will, he's not 1:37:46.320 --> 1:37:48.760 based on a real person. I think I had an 1:37:48.840 --> 1:37:51.800 uncle Delmore who was sort of like that. 1:37:52.880 --> 1:37:56.840 And this is this is a week enough. He's an 1:37:56.920 --> 1:37:57.679 updated character. 1:37:57.680 --> 1:38:01.000 The punchline is always like he'll say, hey, it's like 1:38:01.080 --> 1:38:02.880 they always say, and he'll come up with an idiom, 1:38:03.680 --> 1:38:07.600 but he doesn't realize. He doesn't realized that. You know. 1:38:07.840 --> 1:38:10.040 It's like they always say, hey, Willy, what did I 1:38:10.080 --> 1:38:16.280 tell you about coming in I'm your mama? That I 1:38:16.479 --> 1:38:19.040 like the y'all did it was what the weekend up there? 1:38:19.479 --> 1:38:21.600 The one it was only one that got cut that 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:26.040 was like way too rough? Will Willie where he goes? Uh, 1:38:26.600 --> 1:38:29.880 It's like I told Martin Luther king you can smoke outside. 1:38:36.560 --> 1:38:41.720 They like you can't do that. The line where where 1:38:41.840 --> 1:38:44.160 is the line? I mean, why is that? And that 1:38:44.400 --> 1:38:48.200 one oh Man, we for Willy Well, I don't know Willy. 1:38:48.360 --> 1:38:51.040 We had him say some wow ship where they're afraid 1:38:51.080 --> 1:38:54.120 of like kickback from black. I think Keenan was like, 1:38:54.200 --> 1:38:57.800 I don't want to do that, but that's Willing. He 1:38:57.840 --> 1:39:02.960 can smoke on the boundary about any that's That was 1:39:03.080 --> 1:39:05.680 like the craziest one where we were like, I don't know. 1:39:05.960 --> 1:39:11.640 We had him uh a graduation one where he was like, 1:39:11.720 --> 1:39:14.519 it's like my class told me when I left the school, 1:39:14.560 --> 1:39:16.080 you locked us in with the shooter wheel. 1:39:19.800 --> 1:39:22.960 It's just like, yeah, yeah, every time I do it, 1:39:23.960 --> 1:39:24.799 y'all will do anymore? 1:39:25.160 --> 1:39:27.960 What up with that? Is that? The thing about what 1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:33.679 with that is Jason he's not there anymore and Fred's 1:39:33.760 --> 1:39:36.200 not there, so it's hard to do and Bill Bill Hayter, 1:39:36.360 --> 1:39:39.880 who does does It's not so like they're all gone. 1:39:40.040 --> 1:39:43.240 So I think the last time they did that was 1:39:43.439 --> 1:39:47.559 that's Tucker Man, look at you, your ban Tooker fan. 1:39:47.560 --> 1:39:48.000 You don't even know. 1:39:48.120 --> 1:39:49.760 I didn't even know he's black. He's a little black 1:39:49.800 --> 1:39:51.920 and black I'm not to meet him like black girls. 1:39:52.439 --> 1:39:52.920 That's not the way. 1:39:53.160 --> 1:39:55.439 They stopped there, they stopped, they stopped there. 1:39:55.760 --> 1:40:01.360 Look get your you're right, that's right. 1:40:01.400 --> 1:40:03.679 We're supposed to blind date you and all that stuff 1:40:03.800 --> 1:40:07.800 like I got now. Okay, well we'll see how it 1:40:07.920 --> 1:40:12.000 works in five months, in time for Valentine's Day. 1:40:12.080 --> 1:40:14.639 How's your things going with your boot quest? Love? Still 1:40:14.840 --> 1:40:16.320 my Yeah, I'm still bowed up. 1:40:23.920 --> 1:40:25.320 We're taking we're still winning. 1:40:27.560 --> 1:40:31.080 Second, I love your code talk, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1:40:31.160 --> 1:40:35.000 of course is very shocked that I'm dating a black woman. 1:40:35.520 --> 1:40:38.479 I've been dating pat her Head too, like like one 1:40:38.479 --> 1:40:40.080 of the ones that pat her Head and get bread. 1:40:42.280 --> 1:40:47.240 Yes, we're going to Hawaii. Okaye, we said, what's up? Yes, 1:40:47.400 --> 1:40:49.880 I will tell Shep. You said, hello, oh ship Hawaii. 1:40:49.960 --> 1:40:51.760 I've never been to Hawaiian You gotta go, you. 1:40:51.760 --> 1:40:52.040 Got to go. 1:40:52.920 --> 1:40:54.120 I've never been on a vacation. 1:40:54.439 --> 1:40:54.920 I'm sorry. 1:40:55.120 --> 1:40:58.360 I will introduce you to Sheep Gordon, who's the you know, 1:40:58.439 --> 1:40:59.360 the vacation whisper. 1:40:59.640 --> 1:41:02.280 Okay, oh yeah, I would. I would love that you've 1:41:02.320 --> 1:41:04.799 been on an Actually, you've never been on a vacation. 1:41:04.920 --> 1:41:07.120 I've never been on a plane that wasn't like for 1:41:07.280 --> 1:41:10.559 a work since you started doing this, since I started 1:41:10.600 --> 1:41:14.360 doing it. I don't think the first vacation was what 1:41:14.640 --> 1:41:18.840 for when that first meet Gordon four or five years ago. Yeah, 1:41:18.840 --> 1:41:21.320 I think my first one was tried like twenty fourteen thirteen, 1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:25.280 I'm on tap New York. My idea for a vacation 1:41:25.439 --> 1:41:28.080 that was like to not have to do anything, like 1:41:28.120 --> 1:41:30.080 I don't have to pack a bag or I don't 1:41:30.080 --> 1:41:33.280 have to be anywhere. Oh you can, I can vacation 1:41:33.400 --> 1:41:38.920 at my house if all y'all motherfucker's league like that. 1:41:39.240 --> 1:41:46.680 That's exactly right. It's funny, you know. 1:41:46.920 --> 1:41:52.240 You know the group Rockhampton, Yeah, sort of roots Generation 1:41:52.360 --> 1:41:57.760 to See or whatever. They they only have one like 1:41:57.920 --> 1:42:01.120 one record out, and already they're like taking a vacation 1:42:01.600 --> 1:42:03.840 in Hawaii, like working on the new record. 1:42:03.880 --> 1:42:06.479 And I'm like, you were shaming the youre mirror as 1:42:06.479 --> 1:42:08.320 the Elder Like no, I'm just. 1:42:08.400 --> 1:42:10.920 Like, wait, who does that? Like you? But that I 1:42:11.320 --> 1:42:14.720 just heard them yesterday for the first time ever. It's 1:42:14.840 --> 1:42:18.800 so crazy that you even said they was playing a 1:42:18.840 --> 1:42:20.320 song on the bar and I thought it was I 1:42:20.360 --> 1:42:22.960 thought it was a j rock song. One of the 1:42:23.040 --> 1:42:28.439 guys kind of Ryan fans. Sounds like rock Christian rock. 1:42:29.800 --> 1:42:33.880 It's weird because when I told them it's like seven niggames. Yeah, 1:42:33.920 --> 1:42:36.679 it's like seven or eight of them. They're black and white. 1:42:37.200 --> 1:42:39.960 It's like a Benettone ad of Jen. 1:42:41.439 --> 1:42:41.759 Reference. 1:42:42.680 --> 1:42:46.639 It's just we get it. Well, what's the new benine 1:42:46.680 --> 1:42:54.840 ad Mountain Dew commercial? Okay, there no, But what's weird 1:42:55.000 --> 1:42:55.160 is that. 1:42:55.400 --> 1:42:59.519 What's weird is that who put me onto Mecca from 1:42:59.560 --> 1:43:01.639 Diggable Planets like her kids loved them. 1:43:02.280 --> 1:43:04.320 So I looked at them and then like we got 1:43:04.360 --> 1:43:07.240 them on the show. But the thing was because of 1:43:07.360 --> 1:43:10.960 a it's weird. His name is a mirror. Two, they 1:43:11.080 --> 1:43:13.080 kind of had a me too moment. 1:43:14.400 --> 1:43:19.840 Backstage at the show or before, not tonight's show, at 1:43:19.880 --> 1:43:23.960 their show, okay, so they had to kick a member out. 1:43:24.920 --> 1:43:28.840 And then when they came on our show, it you know, 1:43:29.000 --> 1:43:33.680 I'm expecting these seven rambunctious like flying all over the place. Uh, 1:43:33.960 --> 1:43:38.439 And they did the most emo depressed like they sat 1:43:38.560 --> 1:43:43.919 on the floor like a bonfire like with crime millennial 1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:48.560 tiers about like and you know, and that was the 1:43:48.640 --> 1:43:50.720 jam they did. I used to know they didn't do 1:43:50.760 --> 1:43:52.960 the jam. They decided that they pulled the They pulled 1:43:53.000 --> 1:43:55.600 the and they called an audible and. 1:43:57.400 --> 1:44:00.640 Yeah, I was like, you can have to. You know, 1:44:00.720 --> 1:44:05.960 Jimmy's looking at me like, is this a group Jimmy 1:44:06.000 --> 1:44:08.599 hit you with? That's your man? Exactly? That your man? 1:44:09.120 --> 1:44:12.439 Oh man? Really up brock camp? Was it cool? 1:44:12.960 --> 1:44:13.360 People do that? 1:44:15.200 --> 1:44:18.599 I want them, Yes, I I want them to come 1:44:18.680 --> 1:44:20.240 back and do what I. 1:44:27.080 --> 1:44:27.519 Exactly. 1:44:28.160 --> 1:44:29.800 You said you more of a music person than you 1:44:29.880 --> 1:44:31.920 are watching me. Of course you're watch I love music well, 1:44:31.960 --> 1:44:34.240 because music I'm in, I'm in. I don't know how 1:44:34.280 --> 1:44:36.920 it works. Well, comedy I know how it works, so 1:44:36.960 --> 1:44:37.920 it's not that interesting. 1:44:38.000 --> 1:44:38.519 It's the same. 1:44:38.760 --> 1:44:41.280 But music, I'm like, I'm blown away. 1:44:41.160 --> 1:44:44.479 By that rocking lately listening, oh man, I don't like 1:44:45.080 --> 1:44:45.559 new stuff. 1:44:45.800 --> 1:44:48.640 They don't have to be making music for me. 1:44:48.800 --> 1:44:51.200 Like what's your era? And that's like, are you like 1:44:51.720 --> 1:44:55.920 Man Midnight, your Neptune Switsch beat era? 1:44:56.920 --> 1:44:59.599 That's my era technically, but I like the era right 1:44:59.640 --> 1:45:02.160 before that. I like the ninety five ninety six. 1:45:02.240 --> 1:45:07.640 I like you're aumatic yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what 1:45:07.960 --> 1:45:12.600 you know what a gang star is? Okay, you know 1:45:12.680 --> 1:45:16.439 what a gang yo? This is? This is bizarre, you know, 1:45:16.520 --> 1:45:18.840 Like I was literally that same bottle. I was listening 1:45:18.880 --> 1:45:21.200 to Brockhand for the first time. They was playing Guru 1:45:21.360 --> 1:45:24.640 jazmatads Wow, and I was like, jazzmatass. It was an 1:45:24.720 --> 1:45:29.120 Irish bar called Deacon Brodie's and they was playing Guru jazmatas. 1:45:29.240 --> 1:45:31.400 Wait where I was like in New York? In New 1:45:31.479 --> 1:45:31.880 York and. 1:45:32.400 --> 1:45:37.479 Randomly, what's up of you guys going to random bars 1:45:37.800 --> 1:45:40.720 because nobody cares about you and an Irish bar, no 1:45:40.840 --> 1:45:42.760 one gives a fuck about who you are? 1:45:44.720 --> 1:45:47.519 Fine, I'm telling you, they don't bother you. It's anything 1:45:47.640 --> 1:45:51.080 collegy or anything young and hip. You gotta wear a 1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:54.360 fucking pub Oh they don't. They could care less. They're 1:45:54.400 --> 1:45:57.400 playing music, they know who you are, and they're just like, 1:45:58.160 --> 1:46:00.920 so what, and you're fine. I love it. That's the 1:46:01.040 --> 1:46:05.639 one aspect of thirty rock folklore that I'm kind I'm 1:46:05.680 --> 1:46:07.599 not mad I missed out on it because I don't 1:46:07.600 --> 1:46:11.840 want a habit or anything, but I'm looking for. 1:46:12.160 --> 1:46:14.600 Like you do it every day. You can't develop a 1:46:14.680 --> 1:46:15.720 habit because. 1:46:18.400 --> 1:46:21.240 Able to navigate like they're supposed to be, like Jim Belushi, 1:46:21.600 --> 1:46:25.519 you know, messing around with Jane Curtin in the hallway 1:46:25.640 --> 1:46:27.479 with heroin and you know. 1:46:28.240 --> 1:46:32.000 Like I'm looking for like the rock stars. Yeah, like 1:46:32.560 --> 1:46:35.519 that era that she can't exist Normal everyone's at. 1:46:35.479 --> 1:46:40.559 Whole Foods and you know, yeah, everybody's giant salad Amazon. 1:46:41.120 --> 1:46:44.599 Steve is like Steve is throwing me under the bus 1:46:44.680 --> 1:46:47.360 again just to end the episode in a way that 1:46:47.439 --> 1:46:49.000 you're going to feel happy about yourself. 1:46:49.640 --> 1:46:51.400 Yeah, Steve, I am, I have a. 1:46:51.439 --> 1:46:57.519 Question for you. Okay, just circling back here to weekend update. Okay, 1:46:57.560 --> 1:47:04.639 I mentioned Seth as your ghost. Who's your all time favorite? Normal? Norm? 1:47:04.880 --> 1:47:09.479 I love Norm only because Norm knew it was funny, 1:47:09.640 --> 1:47:13.839 even if the audience did. And I love that freedom 1:47:13.880 --> 1:47:18.040 that Norm. And like he he would tell a joke 1:47:18.320 --> 1:47:21.400 like straight down the back. He wouldn't budge and it 1:47:21.479 --> 1:47:25.880 would get almost like worse than nothing. He was, but 1:47:26.080 --> 1:47:29.720 he didn't care. Like at home watching it, it was hysterical. 1:47:29.840 --> 1:47:31.479 That's another thing that we had to that you have 1:47:31.560 --> 1:47:33.719 to learn at the show is you're playing the studio 1:47:33.800 --> 1:47:36.679 and then you're playing the camera as well. It cuts through, 1:47:37.040 --> 1:47:39.519 something could kill in the room and nobody at homes 1:47:39.600 --> 1:47:42.639 laughing like it's a different it's a it's a weird 1:47:42.760 --> 1:47:44.559 kind of dynamic that you have just learning doing norm 1:47:44.720 --> 1:47:46.479 was kind of the master of it. He knew what 1:47:46.680 --> 1:47:49.640 was funny, even if the audience. He wouldn't even do 1:47:49.840 --> 1:47:52.439 a dress rehearsal something. He wouldn't do a run through jokes. 1:47:52.439 --> 1:47:54.320 He wouldn't run through his jokes to let you know, 1:47:54.520 --> 1:47:56.680 like what you he couldn't say. He would just do 1:47:56.800 --> 1:47:59.200 it for the audience, kind of the way stand ups do. 1:48:00.000 --> 1:48:00.880 That's pretty awesome. 1:48:01.040 --> 1:48:06.880 It's a small suggestion. One of the things about watching 1:48:06.960 --> 1:48:13.040 the show in the studio is the volume is so low, yes. 1:48:13.760 --> 1:48:16.439 Because we're not we're miked for the camera, we're not 1:48:17.240 --> 1:48:18.720 for the crowd, right, yeah, And. 1:48:18.720 --> 1:48:21.360 It's almost like you're like hearing your natural voice, but 1:48:21.479 --> 1:48:25.240 from like one hundred and twenty feet away, you know. 1:48:25.479 --> 1:48:26.080 And that's the thing. 1:48:26.200 --> 1:48:29.840 Like some shows that I've seen in person, I'll be like, 1:48:30.439 --> 1:48:32.880 I'm all right, and then I'll go home and watch 1:48:32.960 --> 1:48:37.400 it the next night or yeah, DVR or whatever. I'm like, Yo, 1:48:37.560 --> 1:48:41.519 that was hilarious, And I'm realizing that shows SNL is 1:48:41.560 --> 1:48:44.160 definitely more hilarious on television than it is. 1:48:44.640 --> 1:48:47.080 Plus in the audience, you're sitting really far back, so 1:48:47.200 --> 1:48:49.640 you can't see your face, your facial expressions and when 1:48:49.680 --> 1:48:50.320 we can update. 1:48:50.360 --> 1:48:53.800 Sometimes I didn't know it only went once. I'm sorry, 1:48:53.840 --> 1:48:54.040 I'm not. 1:48:54.760 --> 1:48:56.960 They have TVs where you can kind of see a 1:48:57.000 --> 1:48:59.479 little bit better butt, but it is. It's true though, 1:48:59.520 --> 1:49:02.479 sometimes even if you have the monitor, sometimes you're just 1:49:02.560 --> 1:49:05.040 trying to watch it happen live and you can't really 1:49:05.080 --> 1:49:05.439 get there. 1:49:05.680 --> 1:49:07.719 If I watched the monitor sitting down. 1:49:08.800 --> 1:49:11.400 Yeah that's true. But yeah, good point the whole I. 1:49:11.400 --> 1:49:13.759 Feel the concert. Sometimes if you that far away, your 1:49:13.800 --> 1:49:15.120 eye is always on a monitor. 1:49:15.240 --> 1:49:18.760 What am I doing here about stories? That's why don't 1:49:18.800 --> 1:49:20.320 like going to football games. I go to the football 1:49:20.320 --> 1:49:22.760 game and I'm the Dumbo tron. I'm like, I could 1:49:22.840 --> 1:49:24.960 just be comfortable. I don't have to be next to 1:49:25.040 --> 1:49:25.559 two races. 1:49:27.680 --> 1:49:30.000 I really done. I could do this at home now. 1:49:30.400 --> 1:49:33.120 The fun, or at least for you, like the fun 1:49:33.200 --> 1:49:37.040 of SNL, is just the experience of like the first 1:49:37.200 --> 1:49:40.200 the first episode, in the last episode is usually when 1:49:40.240 --> 1:49:44.439 the Benders part happens, like it's dress versal. What a 1:49:44.600 --> 1:49:49.400 thirty ten thirty, and then the show is eleven thirty 1:49:49.439 --> 1:49:52.200 to one, and usually the sad rejects go up to 1:49:52.240 --> 1:49:57.000 seventeen and get sloshed until about one thirty and then 1:49:57.120 --> 1:50:00.679 the after after parties from one thirty t about three 1:50:00.840 --> 1:50:01.679 thirty or four. 1:50:02.160 --> 1:50:05.840 That's another thing now that the Lonely Island is left, 1:50:06.880 --> 1:50:10.800 like there's no one. They came and disrupted the after 1:50:10.920 --> 1:50:11.559 party system. 1:50:12.200 --> 1:50:14.680 Whereas they started throwing their own after parties, and then 1:50:14.720 --> 1:50:21.320 there was like the cool kids'll call it, that's the 1:50:21.439 --> 1:50:25.160 rap group name they you know, like when you see 1:50:25.240 --> 1:50:28.400 like SNL comedy video diox, Like. 1:50:28.479 --> 1:50:30.439 They really brought the viral video. 1:50:32.000 --> 1:50:35.679 Damn, near invented it because Sunday was the viral video, 1:50:35.800 --> 1:50:37.320 so they invented the viral video. 1:50:38.080 --> 1:50:40.639 So but they would have their own cool. 1:50:40.479 --> 1:50:44.280 Kids parties versus the teamsters and the other people that 1:50:44.400 --> 1:50:45.599 can't play their games. 1:50:46.080 --> 1:50:48.280 But then when they left, no one was feeling that void, 1:50:48.560 --> 1:50:54.400 like you should be should it just be one party? 1:50:54.720 --> 1:50:56.920 I feel like you and Pete, we need to throw 1:50:56.960 --> 1:51:00.639 your own. Actually, your birthday party was lit. It was fun. Yeah, 1:51:00.880 --> 1:51:03.320 but that was the last. That was the last party. Yeah, yeah, 1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:05.760 we hung out, but I just don't I don't go. 1:51:06.080 --> 1:51:10.320 I don't even go to the parties. You have responsibilities. 1:51:10.360 --> 1:51:13.080 And it's not even so much that like you, it's 1:51:14.120 --> 1:51:19.160 you're so exhausted after a show, like just mentally exhausted, 1:51:19.200 --> 1:51:21.760 and then you're around all these mentally exhausted I don't 1:51:21.760 --> 1:51:24.120 want to be around them, not even like at a 1:51:24.160 --> 1:51:24.640 this but just. 1:51:24.680 --> 1:51:26.920 Like everybody just wants to talk about the show. 1:51:27.240 --> 1:51:28.920 It's like you've done this and you've been waiting for 1:51:28.960 --> 1:51:30.400 so long for this ship to be over, and then 1:51:30.439 --> 1:51:32.240 now somebody wants to talk to them about it, and 1:51:32.320 --> 1:51:34.960 you're like, I want to go home and enjoy my Sunday. 1:51:35.080 --> 1:51:36.840 I would say, so Sunday is that you're really your 1:51:36.880 --> 1:51:39.040 only day to Sunday is your one day, and I 1:51:39.040 --> 1:51:41.400 would you would lose your Sunday because Yo, when they 1:51:41.560 --> 1:51:43.560 drink at the after after part, they drink to like 1:51:43.840 --> 1:51:51.200 eight nine t morn. You might come home at one afternoon. Yeah, 1:51:51.560 --> 1:51:55.920 it's literally all frigging So the Sunday you're just sleep 1:51:56.040 --> 1:51:58.040 the entire day and then next thing, you know, your 1:51:58.080 --> 1:52:01.960 Monday Monday. So you have time for I can well, 1:52:02.000 --> 1:52:05.720 I mean everybody's got ten minutes. Wait, why would you wait? 1:52:06.280 --> 1:52:11.240 Wait that was a great wait over fifteen minutes if 1:52:11.280 --> 1:52:15.479 your mark literally the show on that note, Michael Jay, 1:52:15.560 --> 1:52:16.720 I thank you very much. 1:52:18.720 --> 1:52:22.679 Wait the fact I was really proud of the fact 1:52:23.080 --> 1:52:25.519 that this was going to be an effect free show, 1:52:26.080 --> 1:52:26.960 that Michael was going. 1:52:26.920 --> 1:52:28.400 To be our I wanted to get to the bottom 1:52:28.439 --> 1:52:31.160 of that, because you know, Michael j woe black man, 1:52:32.080 --> 1:52:33.800 he's single, and you got to get to the. 1:52:33.800 --> 1:52:40.160 Bottom of excuse me, mi one, nothing I am and 1:52:40.240 --> 1:52:44.040 so are you. You're into that, right, Michael. 1:52:44.120 --> 1:52:46.479 I thank you very much for coming to our show. 1:52:46.920 --> 1:52:49.479 It's so much fun. Thank you, thank you, and good 1:52:49.760 --> 1:52:51.240 good luck on your future endeavors. 1:52:51.280 --> 1:52:52.479 And can you say I love black women. 1:52:52.520 --> 1:52:53.559 I'm just love black women. 1:52:53.600 --> 1:52:56.599 There we go, black listen. 1:52:56.680 --> 1:52:58.800 I just wanted this is why you were talking to 1:52:59.120 --> 1:53:05.840 anyway on be aut Sugar Steve Face. Hey Bill, I'm 1:53:06.000 --> 1:53:09.920 very sorry the other Bill was up. All right, I'll 1:53:09.920 --> 1:53:15.280 see you all in the next go around. M h 1:53:24.240 --> 1:53:24.559 of course. 1:53:24.640 --> 1:53:28.559 Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic episode 1:53:28.680 --> 1:53:35.960 was produced by the team at Pandora. For more podcasts 1:53:36.000 --> 1:53:39.560 from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 1:53:40.000 --> 1:53:41.679 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.