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Speaker 2: almost officially say goodbye to one of my Super Bowl teams.
Speaker 2: Your Buffalo Bills Broncos. Let's ride. Oh look who's gone?
Speaker 2: Is Broncos gear on?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Mister Diehard Denver Bronco. Thought the Broncos were gonna lose
Speaker 2: by at least thirteen points.
Speaker 3: Did say that the Bills should win that game by
Speaker 3: two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: I told you they were going to be tied going
Speaker 2: into the fourth quarter.
Speaker 3: Are you picked up on my reverse psychology?
Speaker 4: If I keep begging the Broncos and say they're gonna lose,
Speaker 4: They're gonna lose, baby, They'll actually wear.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Tod. Broncos beat the Bills twenty four to
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Speaker 2: to those watching on Peacock jay billis a little bit
Speaker 2: later on as well, Seeton, what's the poll question we're
Speaker 2: least considering for the first hour of the program.
Speaker 5: We got a bunch of them here, Dan, Let's see,
Speaker 5: how about we start with the game last night? Who
Speaker 5: has corrected things more? Russell Wilson, Sean Payton.
Speaker 2: Sean Payton has Sean Payton is not letting Russ cook.
Speaker 2: He's It's like when sometimes I'll cook a meal, but
Speaker 2: my wife is always in there to tell me what
Speaker 2: I'm doing wrong. And it feels like Sean Payton is
Speaker 2: in the kitchen with Russ while Russ is like, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna whip up a Sioux flea, and meanwhile Sean goes, no,
Speaker 2: how about a chicken pot pie?
Speaker 6: Is?
Speaker 5: Why don't we start with some scrambled eggs rather than,
Speaker 5: you know, let's spoil some water.
Speaker 2: I got a keysh right away.
Speaker 5: Why don't we just take it easy?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say Sean Payton seems to have a
Speaker 2: little better handle of the roster of what his team
Speaker 2: is and isn't. I don't know if it's necessarily, Russell Wilson,
Speaker 2: Russ is not losing games for you. I don't think
Speaker 2: they're relying on him to win games, whereas with Buffalo
Speaker 2: and Josh Allen, you rely on him to win games,
Speaker 2: but he's also loosing. Like he's the problem and the
Speaker 2: solution all wrapped into one enigma here because you watch
Speaker 2: and I know all turnovers aren't created equal, but it
Speaker 2: comes back to Josh Allen. He is the common thread here.
Speaker 2: If I look at turnovers here, this is since twenty
Speaker 2: twenty two, Josh Allen in thirty three games. I mean
Speaker 2: that's twenty five interceptions and six lost fumbles. Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: is second, He's six turnovers behind Josh Allen. Then Kirk Cousins,
Speaker 2: Geno Smith, Mac Jones, Dak Prescott. You know, he tries,
Speaker 2: he tries to do two much for that team. I
Speaker 2: thought the defense played pretty well and that's an underman defense.
Speaker 2: And there was only one call that I went what
Speaker 2: are they doing? And of course that was late in
Speaker 2: the game when they decided they were going to have
Speaker 2: a blitz. So here it is Denver third and ten
Speaker 2: from Buffalo's forty five. There's thirty five seconds to go.
Speaker 2: If Denver gains five yards, they're facing a fifty seven
Speaker 2: yard field goal into the win or they'd have to
Speaker 2: go forward on fourth down. So they do an all
Speaker 2: out blitz. The Bills were flagged for pass interference and
Speaker 2: then you thought, okay, Buffalo is going to survive. Yeah,
Speaker 2: miss the field goal and oops, there's twelve men on
Speaker 2: the field. This is what it sounded like.
Speaker 7: Now they got to hurry the team onto the field
Speaker 7: to try to kick a game winning field goal. Fifteen seconds,
Speaker 7: fourteen seconds. This is going to be a forty one
Speaker 7: yarder from the right hash ten seconds, nine seconds, eight,
Speaker 7: here's the snap, hold is down, kick is.
Speaker 5: On the way.
Speaker 7: There's a flag on the plane and it's no good.
Speaker 3: What's the flag? Comment on defense?
Speaker 7: Go forth that So the field goal was no good,
Speaker 7: but it's negated by twelve men on the field. Denver
Speaker 7: will get a second chance to kick this field goal.
Speaker 7: So it's a thirty six yard field goal from the
Speaker 7: right hash.
Speaker 8: Kick is up and it is good.
Speaker 2: What's the flag?
Speaker 4: Yes, Tod, it's really hard to guess if that's the
Speaker 4: Bills of the Broncos broadcasters during that that was the.
Speaker 2: Bills radio network. Tod. Here is the Bills head coach
Speaker 2: Sean McDermott, and it starts with this question.
Speaker 1: Do you feel a sense.
Speaker 7: Of the thing unraveling a little bit like what was
Speaker 7: your sense in that locker room.
Speaker 9: With this trip.
Speaker 10: Guys are upset, they're frustrated when you don't get the
Speaker 10: results you're looking for, you don't have maybe the production
Speaker 10: you're looking for.
Speaker 2: You know they get they get frustrated.
Speaker 10: And that can promise it's not from a lack of effort.
Speaker 10: You don't got to continue to reset, continue to make
Speaker 10: adjustments that we need to make.
Speaker 2: I know the result wasn't what we want it to be.
Speaker 10: And I do think there's some good football times being played,
Speaker 10: but not good enough.
Speaker 2: We have things to work on. Yes, yes you do,
Speaker 2: Yes you do. And I wondered at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the year this was the last year of the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl window for the Buffalo Bills in my opinion, and
Speaker 2: that Sean McDermott, if they don't get far in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: could be on the hot seat. I'd say he's on
Speaker 2: the hot seat. And it's not like Denver played great,
Speaker 2: but these are the games where you look back on
Speaker 2: the season you go, God, we survived. That's it. It's
Speaker 2: survival of the fittest. That's all.
Speaker 5: This is.
Speaker 2: This is hand to hand combat. You don't get style
Speaker 2: points in the NFL. All you want to do is
Speaker 2: win a game, get out of there. And if you're
Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills, now all of a sudden, the season
Speaker 2: gets difficult. So you're five and five. You've got a
Speaker 2: game against the Jets, great, Patriots great, but you also
Speaker 2: have games against the Eagles at Philadelphia, the Chiefs at
Speaker 2: Kansas City, and then you host the Dallas Cowboys and
Speaker 2: you got the Miami Dolphins in Miami to end the season.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you get nine wins this season. That's not
Speaker 2: good enough. You may have one team out of that
Speaker 2: division make the playoffs. And that's what I thought at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the year, that you could have one
Speaker 2: team make it. I of course thought the Buffalo Bills
Speaker 2: were going to be that one team, but that's not
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Speaker 2: They were a big hit last year, a big hit
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Speaker 2: other poll questions are we looking at here.
Speaker 5: Well, we could go to the other side of the
Speaker 5: ball here more to blame for the bill struggles, Josh Allen,
Speaker 5: Sean McDermott, oh.
Speaker 2: Man, I don't think there's a wrong answer. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: still comes down to the quarterback. In today's NFL. I
Speaker 2: know that you know, the coach gets fired, but it's
Speaker 2: on the quarterback. Like Trevor Lawrence had a horrible game
Speaker 2: against San Francisco. That shouldn't be on his head, coach,
Speaker 2: that should be on him, And this should be on
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. You're at home against Denver. You should win again.
Speaker 2: You should win these games.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, that was definitely a winnable game. But when
Speaker 5: you're watching there, you're like, man, Josh Allen sucks.
Speaker 2: No, there's a Brett Farv feel to him, like he
Speaker 2: loves degree of difficulty, risk and reward, and Farv was
Speaker 2: that and Farv bought into this like he's a gunslinger,
Speaker 2: and then he bought into being a gunslinger. Well, he
Speaker 2: would throw touchdowns, but he would throw interceptions. I mean,
Speaker 2: he had over three hundred interceptions in his career, but
Speaker 2: that's because he was always looking for maybe the impossible play,
Speaker 2: the splash play, and you know it'd hurt the Packers
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame quarterback. Yes, he should have been better,
Speaker 2: Green Bay should have been better. One super Bowl shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been good enough for them. And I mean, Buffalo
Speaker 2: would take another Super Bowl with Josh Allen, but it
Speaker 2: feels like they get further and further away the deeper
Speaker 2: end of the season, and that shouldn't be the case.
Speaker 2: You should be looking at these teams that all of
Speaker 2: a sudden gets some momentum, all of a sudden find
Speaker 2: out who they are. How many teams can play great,
Speaker 2: not are great, because I don't think we have a
Speaker 2: great team. But if I said how many great? How
Speaker 2: many teams can play great in a game San Francisco Chiefs, Eagles,
Speaker 2: Cowboys against a bad opponent, Dolphins against a bad opponent,
Speaker 2: so that doesn't count. Let's take Dallas in Miami out.
Speaker 2: These are teams. The Bengals can play great against a
Speaker 2: good opponent. So that's what I'm looking for. How many
Speaker 2: teams can the Ravens play great against a very good team?
Speaker 2: And I'd say yes, you might have five or six
Speaker 2: teams that have that ability to do something where they're
Speaker 2: gonna win a game on the road in the playoffs. Detroit,
Speaker 2: Detroit winning the game against the Chargers in a shootout,
Speaker 2: now grant and you could say it's the Chargers. Still,
Speaker 2: that was impressive for me to watch Detroit win a
Speaker 2: game that they don't lose. They used to lose those games.
Speaker 2: That's impressive. But is there five or six teams that
Speaker 2: can play a great game on the road in the
Speaker 2: playoffs or a great game at home against a very
Speaker 2: good opponent, And you probably have only five or six. Yes, seon,
Speaker 2: but this is one of those seasons though, where Like
Speaker 2: you said, there is no truly great team. There's a
Speaker 2: lot of teams that are really good and then some
Speaker 2: that are uneven. Yeah, if this is the kind of
Speaker 2: year though, that one of those uneven teams can get
Speaker 2: hot at the right time and just run through the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Like say the Dolphins, they've kind of underwhelmed against good teams,
Speaker 2: but if it clicks at the right time, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if they could win all their games, like
Speaker 2: you know, Aaron Rodgers won all of his road games
Speaker 2: when they were a wild card and won the Super Bowl?
Speaker 2: How many teams are capable of doing that? Can can
Speaker 2: Dallas do that? Could Seattle do that? Detroit's gonna have
Speaker 2: home field advantage, Kansas City don't have home field advantage.
Speaker 2: But could Miami go on the road and win. I
Speaker 2: don't think so. So that's why I'm trying to figure
Speaker 2: out here, is we're, you know, past the halfway mark
Speaker 2: of the season. How many teams can play a great
Speaker 2: game because you're going to have one of those moments
Speaker 2: where a team's gonna knock off somebody because they played
Speaker 2: a game that you didn't.
Speaker 5: Expect out of them. Buccaneers, No, they're terrible. No, no, no,
Speaker 5: they won the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I'm not an issue. Yeah, maybe clarify that with the Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's Tom Brady.
Speaker 9: Hello.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what other Bowl questions do we have today?
Speaker 5: Well, we could stick with the Bills a little bit here.
Speaker 5: The Bills are going.
Speaker 2: To I jumped down Seaton's throat. No, they're terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's fun.
Speaker 5: It's fair confused, I can I communicate that you didn't
Speaker 5: do well with the Bills are going to dot dot
Speaker 5: dot and be in the Super Bowl, or missed the playoffs.
Speaker 2: We mentioned this yesterday. I wouldn't be surprised if they
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs. Yeah, I don't think they're going to
Speaker 2: make the playoffs.
Speaker 5: Rather be the Bills or the Bengals.
Speaker 2: Bengals, I mean, that's a tough loss at home, but
Speaker 2: they had played pretty well. And I still like Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow more than I do Josh Allen. I trust Joe
Speaker 2: Burrow more than I do.
Speaker 5: How Boyd catches.
Speaker 2: Yes, if then all of a sudden, you know, Cincinnati survives.
Speaker 2: Even if Buffalo, Buffalo could have won the game, they
Speaker 2: could have survived, and then we would go go, that's
Speaker 2: too close for comfort. But then we just move on
Speaker 2: to the next week. Now you don't move on to
Speaker 2: the next week, and next week is quickly. With Buffalo Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: you might move on a little bit quicker, but you
Speaker 2: can't move on too quick or well, I should say
Speaker 2: you have to because you got a Thursday night game
Speaker 2: against the Ravens, and therefore, all right, you lost that game. Yep,
Speaker 2: can't talk about it. We got to talk about Boltimore
Speaker 2: and talk about an unbelievable matchup on Thursday night. Both
Speaker 2: teams had games that they should have won at home.
Speaker 2: And give credit to Cleveland because Cleveland is one of
Speaker 2: those teams that can play a great game. God if
Speaker 2: they had Nick Chubb. I know we don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about Dewshaun Watson, but we have to talk about
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson. He played like he used to play four
Speaker 2: years ago. That second half is as good as any
Speaker 2: quarterback is going to play. And that's in a tough
Speaker 2: environment against a rival and a good defense, and he
Speaker 2: played really well. That their defense is really, really good.
Speaker 2: They have the potential capability of playing that great game
Speaker 2: in surprising people. All Right, we'll take a break. Phone
Speaker 2: calls coming up, will settle on our poll question and
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh, he talks. What did he talk? He went
Speaker 2: off on a few tangents there. Is he going to
Speaker 2: speak at a hearing coming up later on this week?
Speaker 2: I think he said he was going to are they
Speaker 2: America's team? Why are they victims? We'll talk about that
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Speaker 2: I tried to talk Fritzie into taking the Broncos last night.
Speaker 2: He wouldn't believe me.
Speaker 3: And seen it said the Broncos are gonna win.
Speaker 2: He called, yeah, and look who's wearing Bronco gear today.
Speaker 4: But there's a difference between thinking your team's gonna lose
Speaker 4: and still wanting them to win.
Speaker 3: I think those are two steps.
Speaker 2: I think you should trade clothes with Suton, just the
Speaker 2: hat and a swcreen, but.
Speaker 3: It'll be very big on him. It'll be like a
Speaker 3: big blank. It feels like.
Speaker 2: He's more of a Bronco fan than you are. Feels
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 4: I don't know again, is it interesting thinking your team's
Speaker 4: gonna lose and still wanting them to win the game?
Speaker 5: I said yesterday. Everybody wants the Broncos to humiliate that's
Speaker 5: why they're tuning in tonight.
Speaker 2: Not really. No, I said the point spread was weird.
Speaker 4: I know, and I was sure it was going to
Speaker 4: be a six to eight point game at the end
Speaker 4: based on the seven point spread or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: No, you thought it was going to be thirteen. We're
Speaker 2: gonna lose my thirteen.
Speaker 5: Based on a seven point spread. I thought it was gonna
Speaker 5: be a sixty eight point.
Speaker 4: I said the Bills should win a game like that
Speaker 4: by two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: But because of the whole mafia thing that this somehow,
Speaker 3: it'll be a six to eight point in then Boways
Speaker 3: get it right.
Speaker 2: But you didn't take the bet when you've not taken
Speaker 2: the seven points.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the calls said he would even make
Speaker 4: it like nine or ten. I'm like, nope, it's gonna
Speaker 4: be at least thirteen or I'm.
Speaker 2: Not taking Okay, all right, we'll get phone calls coming up.
Speaker 2: By the way, I normally don't care about a coach's
Speaker 2: press conference, but Robert saw who's the Jets head coach,
Speaker 2: I gotta admit I love watching his press conferences. I
Speaker 2: don't know if he took creative writing when he was
Speaker 2: in college, but he has to be creative every press
Speaker 2: conference when talking about Zach Wilson. But he's also talking
Speaker 2: about making changes. See if you follow.
Speaker 11: We're talking, they're nothing with the quarterback, nothing with the
Speaker 11: play caller. You know, we're just looking at things with
Speaker 11: regards to schematically the things that we can do differently,
Speaker 11: some different personal personal changes which I'm going to keep
Speaker 11: here with me. But we're looking across the board to
Speaker 11: see if we can find a way to generate some offense.
Speaker 2: Okay, not going to change the quarterback, not going to
Speaker 2: change the offensive coordinator. This is direct orders from up top.
Speaker 2: This is ownership saying we're not going to change quarterback.
Speaker 2: We want to see what we have with Zach Wilson,
Speaker 2: and then once we see what we have, and then
Speaker 2: we'll see if Aaron comes back in a month from now.
Speaker 2: But we're not going to put in somebody who's probably
Speaker 2: better than Zach Wilson for our team, because the point
Speaker 2: that I would make is Zack Wilson doesn't know what
Speaker 2: he can and can't do. He's too young and he's
Speaker 2: still living off the fumes at BYU where he could
Speaker 2: do whatever he wants. Trevor Simeon is not as talented
Speaker 2: as Zach Wilson, but Trevor Simeon knows what he can
Speaker 2: and can't do and might give you a better chance.
Speaker 2: There's certain quarterbacks where you go that guy will work.
Speaker 2: Like Andy Dalton, he made a career out of he
Speaker 2: knows what he can and can't do might not be
Speaker 2: enough for a playoff appearance, but he doesn't lose you games.
Speaker 2: The Jets want to go into these games right now
Speaker 2: for the next four or five weeks if you're getting
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers back, not losing games, and that starts with
Speaker 2: Zack Wilson. But it feels like Robert Sala knows how
Speaker 2: this ends. He just can't tell you how the movie ends.
Speaker 2: And that's the feeling I get every time he goes
Speaker 2: to that press conference. It's like, uh, no change in
Speaker 2: the quarterbacking position, and not all this is on Zack Wilson.
Speaker 2: But if he's going to make it, you know that
Speaker 2: we're gonna put this on Zack Wilson. Then we want
Speaker 2: to see results. He's running Aaron Rodgers offense not well,
Speaker 2: but that's what they're running because you're not going to
Speaker 2: cater something to Zack Wilson and all of a sudden, Hey,
Speaker 2: Aaron's back. Now let's change the offense with everybody. But
Speaker 2: uh yeah, I love that press conference every week where
Speaker 2: he's trying to say something nice about Zack Wilson, not
Speaker 2: changing quarterback, not changing offensive coordinator schematic. That's what we're
Speaker 2: gonna do. We're going to change our schemes.
Speaker 12: Yes, Marmon, Does he have a mulligan for the season,
Speaker 12: no matter what because Aaron Rodgers injury.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, I think so. I don't think you
Speaker 2: would have Aaron Rodgers come back, because that's another one.
Speaker 2: If Rogers likes Robert Salah, you know, management isn't going
Speaker 2: to fire him because Roger would be like, no, I
Speaker 2: like this guy. That's unless Rogers will co sign on
Speaker 2: something and say, yeah, if you want to fire him,
Speaker 2: that's okay with me. If I'm Aaron Rodgers and you
Speaker 2: liked him and you were coming there then and it
Speaker 2: feels like he gives Rogers autonomy and that's what you want.
Speaker 2: If you're Aaron Rodgers, you know this late in your career,
Speaker 2: all right. Jim Harbaugh spoke, we don't know if he's
Speaker 2: going to be get a temporary restraining order an injunction,
Speaker 2: what the courts are going to say, and is he
Speaker 2: going to be on the sidelines for Maryland? Is he
Speaker 2: going to be on the sidelines for Ohio State? Will
Speaker 2: he be on the sidelines when the playoffs roll around?
Speaker 2: A lot of questions and Jim Harbaugh spoke yesterday on
Speaker 2: a variety of topics, including Michigan is America's team.
Speaker 13: It's got to be America's team. It's got to be
Speaker 13: America's team America. America loves a team that beats the odds,
Speaker 13: beats the adversity, overcomes what the naysayers and you know, critics,
Speaker 13: so called experts think.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite kind of team.
Speaker 2: Okay, what did they not an underdog? They're Michigan. He
Speaker 2: makes it seem like they're this plucky team that somehow
Speaker 2: they rose up against the Titans of the sport like
Speaker 2: TCU was an America's team, that was an underdog team.
Speaker 2: Did they cheat like they're America's team. I don't think
Speaker 2: America goes man, that's our team. They cheat? Yes, Marvin the.
Speaker 12: Two thousand and one Patriots, at that time, they were
Speaker 12: America's team. Like you know what, underdogs nine to eleven
Speaker 12: were all Patriots. All that went into that not I
Speaker 12: got caught cheating. So now we're America's team. Yeah, it
Speaker 12: doesn't work like that.
Speaker 2: I mean the victimization here and I've said before I
Speaker 2: hope that they get their opportunity to speak and give
Speaker 2: us information on whatever they need to give us here.
Speaker 2: But are they denying that something happened here? It doesn't
Speaker 2: feel like that. They want due process. That's that's what
Speaker 2: they're really big on. They do process.
Speaker 5: Yeah, se, Michigan is the wealthiest football teams in the country.
Speaker 5: They made like something like two hundred and something million
Speaker 5: dollars last year like that. They're not an underdog at all,
Speaker 5: not even close. They're America's team. It's about capitalist adversity
Speaker 5: or really overcoming the odds. You're Michigan. What are you
Speaker 5: talking about, dude? Play hardball again.
Speaker 13: It's got to be America's team. It's got to be
Speaker 13: America's team America. America loves a team that beats the odds,
Speaker 13: beats the adversity, overcomes with the naysayers, and you know, critics,
Speaker 13: so called experts think that's my favorite kind of team.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 14: God, I've always believed if you convinced, if you can
Speaker 14: convince yourself you're innocent, you can convince others you're innocent.
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 14: It's almost like he believes that they did nothing, or
Speaker 14: the whole team did nothing, and he may on his
Speaker 14: end maybe right, he may have not participated in this.
Speaker 2: But this isn't a criminal trial.
Speaker 14: Right, But I don't know if this this stance is
Speaker 14: going to help them out. People want Michigan to have
Speaker 14: due process, and the Big Ten took a lot of
Speaker 14: hits last week of how they handled this. Let others
Speaker 14: jab the Big Ten and you hang back.
Speaker 2: Yes, play the victim. Yeah, don't tell us that you
Speaker 2: know why you're the victims. Let others go to bat
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: So far, they've done a fairly masterful job of controlling
Speaker 5: the storyline about how they got screwed by the Big Ten.
Speaker 5: Nobody is talking about how they're not denied. They admitted. Yeah,
Speaker 5: the guy went and did that. Absolutely one of our
Speaker 5: coaches was going and doing all of this stuff. But
Speaker 5: it's not fair what you're doing to Jim Harbaugh. That's
Speaker 5: the whole story, is Jim Harbaugh's getting screwed somehow when
Speaker 5: his coaching staff was cheating.
Speaker 3: Well, if you look at.
Speaker 2: The language of all of this, and I don't think
Speaker 2: not many people are looking at the language of this.
Speaker 2: When Jim Harbaugh, Michigan gets punished. So the Big Ten
Speaker 2: punished Michigan. But you have to have a person who
Speaker 2: gets punished, and that's the head coach. Now he got
Speaker 2: suspended for three games. What if this happened five weeks ago,
Speaker 2: Is he suspended for the rest of the regular season
Speaker 2: because that's what he's being suspended for the rest of
Speaker 2: the regular season.
Speaker 5: Yeah, See the Big Ten statement that they initially released
Speaker 5: said that the Michigan head coach or that Michigan football
Speaker 5: couldn't play games with their head coach for the rest
Speaker 5: of the season. It just so happened to be three games.
Speaker 5: Like you had brought up Juwan Howard when he got
Speaker 5: suspended last year, right for punching the Wisconsin Wisconsin coach,
Speaker 5: he was suspended for the remainder of the season, that
Speaker 5: was five games. They were both sportsmanship violations. They were
Speaker 5: both the exact same code of conduct that the Big
Speaker 5: Ten is holding both coaches to that standard, both schools
Speaker 5: to that standard. It's both sportsmanship violations.
Speaker 2: But if Michigan had five regular season games left, would
Speaker 2: he be suspended for five games? Not three? That's what
Speaker 2: I'm curious about. They like this number. Is it just
Speaker 2: those are the games left? If he got suspended in September,
Speaker 2: what he have sat down for ten games?
Speaker 5: Maybe if it was September, it would have been indefinitely. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and this, but they never said were suspending him for
Speaker 5: three games for so all of these headlines say three games,
Speaker 5: and in effect it's a three game suspension, but only
Speaker 5: because that's the remainder of the season. He was suspended
Speaker 5: for the remainder of the season.
Speaker 2: As far as due process, what does the language say
Speaker 2: about due process?
Speaker 5: Well, due process is like I mean, as is he
Speaker 5: is truly a state employee? And then is there certain
Speaker 5: due process? Gets a little funny for me. I think
Speaker 5: the whole idea. He keeps talking about the presumption of innocence.
Speaker 5: I don't know how that has any bearing in this
Speaker 5: at all, because that's like a very specific legal clause,
Speaker 5: I think. But I'm not sure due process and presumption
Speaker 5: of innocence is being thrown around a lot, and I
Speaker 5: not one hundred percent sure. I'm not a lawyer by
Speaker 5: any means, but I wonder if it's always being used
Speaker 5: appropriately when being thrown around.
Speaker 2: Who thinks Jim Harball is on the sidelines this weekend, Paulie,
Speaker 2: no one else feels like he's going to be on
Speaker 2: the sidelines. Feels like somehow someway. He's on the sidelines there.
Speaker 14: Yeah, PAULI, Yeah, I'm really curious. Read a few stories.
Speaker 14: Jim Harbaugh may not speak or take questions at whatever
Speaker 14: hearing is going on on Friday. He may issue a
Speaker 14: statement they allowed them to do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 8: But it's one of.
Speaker 14: Those cases where it's so wild that it's not gonna
Speaker 14: be hurt until Friday.
Speaker 8: That's what I love.
Speaker 14: It couldn't be held on a Tuesday, so we know
Speaker 14: what's going on before the weekend. It has to be
Speaker 14: Friday to increase the drama in the story.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's so many questions I have about this that
Speaker 2: I hope Jim gets his opportunity to have his day
Speaker 2: in court, Big ten court, NCAA court. I don't know
Speaker 2: when it's going to happen, but here's more of Jim
Speaker 2: Harball yesterday.
Speaker 13: I'm gonna talk on Friday. Just looking for that opportunity
Speaker 13: due process, not looking for special treatment, looking for a
Speaker 13: popularity contest, just looking for the merit.
Speaker 3: Of what the case is.
Speaker 13: You know, I senior in high school had a civic
Speaker 13: class talk about government justice, and what it took away
Speaker 13: from that class was that you're innocent until proven guilty.
Speaker 3: That was forty years ago. But like that opportunity.
Speaker 8: Okay, was it over when the Germans bomb per Armor?
Speaker 2: No, let's get him.
Speaker 5: If that press conference went on ten seconds longer, he
Speaker 5: would have been quoting Martin Luther King Jr. About injustice
Speaker 5: free at last.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, college football is the best.
Speaker 6: Oh boy.
Speaker 2: By the way, we did reach out to Jim Harbaugh,
Speaker 2: even the Big Ten commissioner Tony but Titi. We invite everybody.
Speaker 3: They do appreciate the invitation.
Speaker 4: They they always appreciate the thinking of them during these
Speaker 4: tough times.
Speaker 3: But just not going to work out in the schedule,
Speaker 3: unavailable at this time?
Speaker 5: What about justice? Yeah, not my fault. The members of
Speaker 5: my coaching staff. Unbelievable somebody else was suspended here. Would
Speaker 5: Jim Harball in Michigan have a problem. They should have
Speaker 5: kept that coach and not let him resigned. And then
Speaker 5: I was like, oh, well, we're gonna get rid of.
Speaker 2: The Connor Stallion is going to be suspended for the
Speaker 2: remainder of the regular season. But let's say an offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator or defensive coordinator was suspended. Would they have a
Speaker 2: problem with this?
Speaker 14: Yes, I don't believe for a second Connor Stallion's resigned
Speaker 14: by choice. I believe he was told to resign and
Speaker 14: he resigned because he's trying to protect the program. And
Speaker 14: if he's not an employee of the school, the school
Speaker 14: can't make him agree to any hearings. He doesn't have
Speaker 14: to go anywhere and talk and do anything. He could
Speaker 14: just sit at home in his dopey apartment, right, Big
Speaker 14: Ten would have no authority to make him talk or
Speaker 14: or then say a if he's not currently a staff member.
Speaker 14: I don't believe for a second equip by choice.
Speaker 2: Yes, Ton For those who.
Speaker 4: Think Jim Harbor will be coaching against Maryland to what
Speaker 4: extent is that because it'll be way too blamed for
Speaker 4: him to all the sudden pop up at the Ohio
Speaker 4: State game and you got to bring him back for
Speaker 4: the Maryland game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you want him to make
Speaker 2: his first appearance back at the Ohio State game. I
Speaker 2: think that if he all right the Maryland game, he'll
Speaker 2: be able to come back.
Speaker 3: It just worked out that way. He decided a two
Speaker 3: game suspension.
Speaker 5: Oh, at least the Michigan game against Ohio State is home.
Speaker 2: Yes, I wish it was. That was so much more
Speaker 2: fun when he walks out, but.
Speaker 3: A good signage around the horseshoe.
Speaker 2: America's team, America's team.
Speaker 5: America's team. Dude, what are you talking about?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 2: I thought Colorado was America's team. Yes, Marlon.
Speaker 12: Someone on Twitter said, that's almost like calling the Houston
Speaker 12: As was America's team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure.
Speaker 5: It's like somebody at some point, like at dinner the
Speaker 5: night before or at lunch that day, was like hot,
Speaker 5: It's like we're American team. They're like, yeah, you do
Speaker 5: like that. I'm gonna go with that. And then he
Speaker 5: comes out of your mouth. Yeah, sound like an idiot.
Speaker 2: It's us against the world.
Speaker 5: People love, you know, guy fighting against injustice and.
Speaker 12: You should have put you should have put his Macolmace
Speaker 12: glasses back.
Speaker 5: On, Drew and he's like, your dad is one of
Speaker 5: the a great football coach. We're talking about against All
Speaker 5: odds were ended this Drew in New Mexico.
Speaker 2: I Drew, what's on your mind?
Speaker 9: What's up?
Speaker 6: Dude?
Speaker 9: H man? I've been a Michigan fan my whole life
Speaker 9: and you had to call in the last week that
Speaker 9: sounds like was a Michigan fan and said, oh, Ohio
Speaker 9: State was cheating, expected the same punishment for Ryan dan
Speaker 9: if if Ryan Dave was found to be cheating, and
Speaker 9: it was in Jim harbas shoes right now, Michigan fan
Speaker 9: of movie calling for him to be crucified.
Speaker 2: Of course, of course everybody's hypocrites here, like did you
Speaker 2: see what he did? And that even happened with Michigan
Speaker 2: and Harball. What did they imediately say? Rutgers, Purdue in
Speaker 2: Ohio State, they were sharing our signals. They are cheating too, Well, wait,
Speaker 2: did you cheat? Let's start with you. You want to
Speaker 2: get to the other teams, other you know programs, Absolutely
Speaker 2: we can get there. But that doesn't exonerate you because
Speaker 2: everybody else was or Purdue, Ohio State and Rutgers were,
Speaker 2: Oh wait that.
Speaker 5: Doesn't well, we're being screwed by the justice system. Then
Speaker 5: it's how about that. It's not fair. Fingers are pointed
Speaker 5: out words this entire time.
Speaker 2: And then they want to be lumped in with the
Speaker 2: Patriots with spygate. You know, we're like the Patriots, But
Speaker 2: do you want to be affected by the punishment the
Speaker 2: Patriots gone? Because the Patriots got maybe the harshest penalty
Speaker 2: in NFL history where they got fined and lost draft picks.
Speaker 2: So if you want to be lumped in that, hey,
Speaker 2: this is not a big deal. Okay, ask the Patriots spygate.
Speaker 2: Wasn't a big deal? Asked Robert KRAFTA and Bill Belichick. Yeah, poem,
Speaker 2: I always.
Speaker 14: Wonder when stories break in the certain time of the
Speaker 14: season happens. Imagine if the Flakegate would have happened after
Speaker 14: Game four against the Colts of the regular season and
Speaker 14: it bore out that you know, Brady wasn't cooperative or
Speaker 14: lied or would give him cel phone the commission and
Speaker 14: that was like week six one without a suspension of hit,
Speaker 14: would have hit during the season, would have hit in
Speaker 14: the off season. The timing is so fascinating.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, suspended for the rest of the
Speaker 2: regular season. I thought they were going to suspend him indefinitely. Also,
Speaker 2: I was told yesterday, you know, there's probably coaches who
Speaker 2: used to work for Michigan who might be giving up
Speaker 2: evidence here of Michigan that there's a lot of things
Speaker 2: to factor in that somebody has an extra grind against Harbaugh.
Speaker 2: I think we can all admit that somebody hand delivered
Speaker 2: this to the NCAA and I think the Big Ten
Speaker 2: was forced to do something. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: had a little more time with this, if they wanted
Speaker 2: a little more time with this, yeah pulling.
Speaker 14: If you read through the Big Ten statement, they have
Speaker 14: extreme details. If this wasn't just like a rumor about
Speaker 14: a daff or who may have gone to games. They
Speaker 14: have the number of games by year he went to.
Speaker 14: They have the place he bought, the ticket of each ticket.
Speaker 14: They have the name of the person he transferred the
Speaker 14: ticket to to record at each stadium.
Speaker 8: This is not a vague.
Speaker 14: The investigation, whoever did it, whoever commissioned it, had their
Speaker 14: ducks in a row and had many details.
Speaker 8: It was not vague.
Speaker 2: Who got the information?
Speaker 14: That's what's not the Big Ten, at least in their reports.
Speaker 14: All they know is what this guy Connor Stallions was
Speaker 14: doing week to week, hiring people to be in certain
Speaker 14: stadiums in certain seats.
Speaker 8: They don't have anything at least from what.
Speaker 2: If Harmall has to understand somebody has to pay the price,
Speaker 2: and it's the coach who pays the price. It says
Speaker 2: that in the language Northwestern Who got the information? Who
Speaker 2: got it? What'd you do with it? Maybe Jim Harball
Speaker 2: didn't know about it, and that's why he's upset about this.
Speaker 2: But still read the language. It says Michigan is going
Speaker 2: to be punished, and that means the coach can't be
Speaker 2: on the sidelines. That's what this is. Yeah, and it's wow.
Speaker 5: This is his second suspension this season.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if that game it happened in it's possible he
Speaker 5: would have already been suspended the first time and would
Speaker 5: have just wrote it out the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: Boy, they're gonna They're gonna ride the victim parade here
Speaker 2: for as long as they can.
Speaker 8: Let's ride the judge this weekend is gonna be on
Speaker 8: the parade float.
Speaker 2: If they win it, they get a playoff share.
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Speaker 5: Somebody just said, by the way, where the Astros Americas team?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5: America loves us. Let's see who has corrected things more,
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson or Sean Payton right now. Sean Payton at
Speaker 5: sixty three percent of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sounds
Speaker 5: about right to me.
Speaker 2: Uh, Paul, you gon an NFL stat with quarterbacks?
Speaker 8: Want to play the quick?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: Who is leading the NFL in TD to interception radio?
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson?
Speaker 14: Who wants to guest who's leading the NFL as of
Speaker 14: this morning in touchdown to interception ratio in the NFL?
Speaker 2: Josh Dobbs, No, I think it's got to be CJ.
Speaker 3: Stroud.
Speaker 11: CJ.
Speaker 14: Strout is correct. He has fifteen touchdowns, two picks. Russell
Speaker 14: Wilson is second, Kirk Cousins is third. Who is leading
Speaker 14: the league in percentage of touchdowns percentage of passes that
Speaker 14: are touchdowns like least number of pass attempts most touchdowns.
Speaker 14: It is Russell Wilson at six point nine percent. Justin
Speaker 14: Fields a second, yeah, and Tu Tagobloa is third.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you want to be there with
Speaker 5: Justin Fields be like, hey, look, you and me, Yeah,
Speaker 5: you and me.
Speaker 2: Let's see. Andrew in Washington is back. Good morning, Andrew.
Speaker 2: What do you have for me today?
Speaker 15: Good morning, Dan Dennett's thanks for taking my call. I
Speaker 15: do have a question, but first, a neurology stat that
Speaker 15: I thought Todd would like So in fifty eight career starts,
Speaker 15: Justin Herbert has made, including the playoffs, the charges a
Speaker 15: twenty nine and twenty nine records, and in those fifty
Speaker 15: eight games, the Chargers have scored one thousand, five hundred
Speaker 15: and two points, their charges have allowed one thousand, five
Speaker 15: hundred and two points.
Speaker 3: That is wild hogged like that.
Speaker 15: So my question is this, who will be fired first?
Speaker 15: Brian Dabele, Sean McDermott.
Speaker 2: Or Brandon's Daily I would say Brandon Staley. It almost
Speaker 2: feels like it's inevitable Brian Dable get another year. McDermott
Speaker 2: maybe they just gave him a contract extension in the offseason.
Speaker 2: Not that that means that you're married to that person,
Speaker 2: but they seem to honor those a little bit more
Speaker 2: I think in the NFL than college.
Speaker 12: Yes one, Well, the McDermott situations feel very Mark Jackson
Speaker 12: Tony dungeeesque, where it's like a team that's right on
Speaker 12: the cup and they need somebody else to, you know,
Speaker 12: take them over the.
Speaker 2: So in Tony Dungee they lost three consecutive playoff appearances.
Speaker 2: They brought in John Gruden, then they won the Super
Speaker 2: Bowl and then with Mark Jackson, took him as far
Speaker 2: as they thought he could, and then they brought in
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr and they won four titles. I get that,
Speaker 2: Jake and Buffalo. Hey, Jake, what's on your mind?
Speaker 15: Hey?
Speaker 16: DP just wanted to get Todd a shot off for
Speaker 16: not taking those nine points yesterday, because the only thing
Speaker 16: that could be more depressing this morning than last night
Speaker 16: would be the fact that I have to take a
Speaker 16: fight a face.
Speaker 2: I tried to get him.
Speaker 3: Jake, You're really dead.
Speaker 2: I tried.
Speaker 6: You.
Speaker 2: Is your season over, Jake?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 16: The season was over after London. I've been it's been
Speaker 16: a month. I've accepted it. It's over and done with.
Speaker 16: You're the only guy nationally that's even broaching the topic
Speaker 16: of firing mc dermott. It started to pick up today,
Speaker 16: but it's a guy who has just been incompetent. He's
Speaker 16: not getting teams up. The playoff games, consecutive playoff losses.
Speaker 16: Micro man, it's the defense enough to the point where
Speaker 16: the coordinator lost. It's just an absolute dumpster fire and
Speaker 16: once again it's time to blow everything up and start over.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder about Stefan Diggs for the rest of the
Speaker 2: season because I'm watching the game last night and then
Speaker 2: the end result, and the first person I thought of
Speaker 2: was Stefan Diggs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think of him after every single drive, after
Speaker 5: every single punt, the punt is hanging in the air.
Speaker 5: I'm like, just give me Stephan Diggs because he's got
Speaker 5: to be screaming at somebody.
Speaker 2: I love that dude.
Speaker 5: I think he's great and I think they should be
Speaker 5: winning more. But man, I bet he is just a
Speaker 5: terror in the locker room. And that his brother who
Speaker 5: is out for the Cowboys. He tweeted last night, four
Speaker 5: team's got to get up out of there.
Speaker 2: That doesn't sound good. That's first thing I thought of,
Speaker 2: was like, I'm in the pocket.
Speaker 5: He needs to scramble, he needs to get up out
Speaker 5: the puncket.
Speaker 12: Yes, marm you know what, Jake and Competent might be
Speaker 12: a strong word to describe Sean McDermott, because I think
Speaker 12: what the Bills were before he got there and what
Speaker 12: they are now is night and day. Because they weren't
Speaker 12: even making the playoffs. They had a great fan base,
Speaker 12: but they were going three and thirteen, four and twelve
Speaker 12: every year before he got there. He just might not
Speaker 12: be the guy to take them over the hump into
Speaker 12: the next step.
Speaker 2: And once again, it goes back to what I say
Speaker 2: all the time. Not everybody's a head coach. Some coordinators
Speaker 2: are meant to be coordinators. Yeah, they gave him a
Speaker 2: contract extension. They I don't know how long this window
Speaker 2: stays open, but it feels like Buffalo is one of
Speaker 2: those media driven stories where it's like, hey, Josh Allen,
Speaker 2: you know, cover Madden MVP, candidate bills, the whole thing,
Speaker 2: that home field advantage, that fan base, like all of that.
Speaker 2: It's like we keep trying, like Jacksonville, Hey, Jacksonville, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, let me see them win a game,
Speaker 2: a big game, and then they get blown up by
Speaker 2: San Francisco. One hour in the Books, two morens Ago
Speaker 2: on this Tuesday,