1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:01,280 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 2: I never thought in a million years that I would 3 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: be fronting the band that was plastered all over my 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: wall as a kid. Life kind of unfolds, you know, 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: the journey kind of opens doors for you that you 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: know you probably wouldn't. 7 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Have opened or even like fathomed as possible. 8 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 2: Never in a million years when I was listening to 9 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 2: Sublime as a kid, that I think that one day 10 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 2: heavy jamming with Budd and Air singing those songs. 11 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: It's crazy. 12 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 3: Welcome to another episode of the Taking a Walk podcast, 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 3: the podcast where we dive deep into the stories, the journeys, 14 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 3: and the passions of incredible artists and creators. 15 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: And today buzz. 16 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 3: Night welcomes Rome, a musician whose roots run deep in 17 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 3: California and Mexican heritage, and its guitar has been shaping 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 3: his sound since he was just eleven years old. You 19 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 3: might know Rome is the voice and soul behind Sublime. 20 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: With Rome the band that's carried forward the legacy of 21 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 3: the iconic Sublime. From learning his first song by Sublime 22 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: as a kid, touring and recording with the surviving members, 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 3: Rome's journey is one of passion, perseverance, and evolution. Rome's 24 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,559 Speaker 3: got new music out called Why Me, and he talks 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: with Buzz Night on the Taking a Walk podcast. 26 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 4: Right now, Hello Rome, and welcome to the Take on 27 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: a Walk podcast. 28 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: How's it going, man? Thanks you for having me. 29 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 4: It's going fantastic. Thank you. So, since the podcast is 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 4: called taking a Walk, I wanted to ask you, Rome, 31 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 4: if you could take a walk with somebody living or dead, 32 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 4: preferably around music, but that's not mandatory. Who would you 33 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: like to take a walk with and where would you 34 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 4: like to take that walk? 35 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: Man, that's a good question. 36 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: Well, the first person that comes in mind and probably 37 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 2: be my grandpa just because yeah, I feel like a 38 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 2: man now he passed away before I could you know, 39 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 2: kind of get to know a little more about or 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: get to the point where I wanted to know more 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 2: about the family, you know, so probably walk with him, 42 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 2: ask m some questions, you know, probably explain a lot 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: of stuff goes on in my head anyway. But then 44 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: in terms of like entertainment, you know, if I could 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 2: take a walk with somebody, man, off the top of 46 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: my head, like first person that came to mind was 47 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: Jimmy HENDRICKX. Just you know, I mean for obvious reasons, 48 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: but he's just such a creative guy. I would just 49 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 2: love to, you know, hear what kind of like stuff 50 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 2: he had to say about, you know, just. 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: Just movies and you know, art, and just just kind 52 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: of pick his brain. You know. 53 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: I got chills thinking about both of them, including the 54 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 4: Jimmy response. And I have this feeling you and Jimmy 55 00:02:54,480 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 4: would be kindred spirits because Jimmy seemed to emote this 56 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 4: tremendous sense of certainly creativity and passion, but amazing sense 57 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 4: of gratitude. And I see you at this place and 58 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 4: time in your career, and I feel like you are 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 4: exuding your own sense of this tremendous gratitude. Am I 60 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 4: right on that? 61 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: Thanks? Man? I'm for sure. 62 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, it's like for me, I've already 63 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: like like like done more than I've ever could have imagined, 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: you know, and there's still things that I do want 65 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: to like accomplish and and do. But like, once you 66 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 2: get to a point where you're actually able to like, 67 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: you know, put food on your family's table through music, 68 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 2: you know, that's a very very like that's a blessing. 69 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 2: And I don't know, I just I'm like, at that 70 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: point now you know, I have three children and my wife, 71 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: and you know, it's like, I'm like very grateful to 72 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 2: be able to be still playing music and having like 73 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 2: fans that listen to the music that I make and 74 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: music that I've been associated with, and you know, I've 75 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: gotten toward the world with my favorite band for more 76 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 2: than a decade. 77 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I made it out all right. 78 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 2: You know, I'm in a wonderful marriage and I have 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 2: beautiful children, and I'm very grateful for that. And I think, 80 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: you know that's that's a huge contributor to even why 81 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: I continue to want to do this professionally. You know, 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 2: I want to put that message out of the world fantastic. 83 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 4: We're going to talk about why me and the behind 84 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 4: the scenes creative process that led to it. It's outstanding. 85 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: And also I want you to be able to tell 86 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: everybody about the music festivals and performances that you're going 87 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,599 Speaker 4: to be certainly you know, making the rounds as well. 88 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, but you just turned thirty seven. How do 89 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 4: you feel about this milestone? Does it change how you 90 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 4: look at your music or your life in general? 91 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:17,520 Speaker 1: Uh? 92 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 2: You know, for me, it's like I was just having 93 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,679 Speaker 2: this conversation with my mother in law because I love 94 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: growing older, and I know people hate it, you know, 95 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 2: I'm just kind of figuring out like the health part 96 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: of it, you know, like working out and eating right, 97 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 2: like I've been in that world the last like six 98 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: months now. But in terms of like you know, mentally 99 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 2: and emotionally, like growing up is awesome because you just 100 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 2: like you get more and more in tune with what 101 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: you like. And my mother in law was saying, which 102 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: which I couldn't help it agree with, but like, you know, 103 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: and she's she's got like twenty years on me. You know, 104 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 2: the older you get, the less like you give a 105 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 2: shit about what people think, and and like you just 106 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: get more sure of yourself. And I just like I 107 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 2: couldn't help but agree. You know, even at my age 108 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 2: at thirty seven, you just get to this point, you know, 109 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: where you're like, man, I got three kids that are 110 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 2: like doing all right, Like I'm gonna be fined, Everything's 111 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,680 Speaker 2: gonna be all right, and that's not a big deal. 112 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 2: That's not a big deal, you know, and and you 113 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 2: just kind of get to this place so to you know, 114 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 2: make a long, long answer shorter. I definitely love the 115 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: fact of growing and becoming smarter and more aware. And 116 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 2: you know, the flip side of that is, you know, 117 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 2: time becomes less and less of you know, something that 118 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 2: you have, you know, just in terms of your responsibilities 119 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 2: and and and that can put a real big damper 120 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: on your creative process. So that's one thing that has 121 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: been you know, a little less than favorable with like 122 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: growing up. It's like, you know, I definitely missed the 123 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 2: time of just sitting around and just sitting in the 124 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: studio all dang day and making music, going to bed 125 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 2: and waking up and doing the same thing. But that's 126 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: probably not a very healthy lifestyle either. So I'm rolling 127 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: with it, man, I love it. 128 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 4: Tell me what it was like being born and raised 129 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: in California, What was childhood like? And talk about you know, 130 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: just that aspect of your journey in California. 131 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 132 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 2: Man, Well, so I grew up in the nineties, like 133 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: your typical nineties child. You know, my earliest memories of 134 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 2: music were Bob Marley, Fleetwood mac Motown, you know, so 135 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 2: that was like the Supremes, and you know, anything from 136 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder or Smokey Robinson of course, and Rolling Stones 137 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 2: and led Zeppelin and hip hop that was on the radio. 138 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: So it was like a pretty eclectic, you know, mix 139 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 2: of music. But I mean it was like my mom 140 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 2: and my dad and those were some of my earliest 141 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: memories were musical memories. Really, I was very much a fan. 142 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: You know, where I grew up in the Bay Area, 143 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: it was you know, heavily inspired like by like gang culture. 144 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 2: There was you know, the Bay Area is synonymous for 145 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 2: its own music industry. 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: It's its own music you know genre. 147 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: Really it's like hip hop, but you know, we got 148 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 2: like artists that have just really been fundamental to West 149 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: Coast rap. You know, shout out to E forty and 150 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,239 Speaker 2: Too Short and stuff like that Mac Drey. So needless 151 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 2: to say, all my peers in school, everybody I knew 152 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: it was like hip hop, hip hop, hip hop, and 153 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 2: you know, I would hear all this like soul and 154 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 2: other kind of music from my parents. And I took 155 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 2: a trip down to San Diego where my family was from, and. 156 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 1: I like heard like Sublime for the very first time, 157 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: which was. 158 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 2: Kind of a trip because it kind of put all 159 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: of this, all that music I was talking about, It 160 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: put it all into one which I thought was just 161 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: so awesome. 162 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: It was so fresh to me. I think I was like. 163 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 2: Eleven at the time, and I just remember hearing this 164 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: music and you know, it would be borrowing melodies from 165 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: like the Supremes, and it would be like, you know, 166 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,319 Speaker 2: doing like punk rock stuff, which I hadn't even really 167 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: heard punk rock yet at that point. Sublime was my 168 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 2: introduction into punk rock and you know, so hearing that 169 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 2: for the first time, but like you know, had some 170 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: stuff from like hip hop samples in there, and so 171 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: it just really blew my mind. And from that point on, 172 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:39,479 Speaker 2: like honestly, from like listening to Sublime, it really transitioned 173 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 2: me from like being like a listener to like me 174 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,960 Speaker 2: wanting to learn how to like play an instrument, you know, 175 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 2: And I got a guitar, and then shortly after getting 176 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 2: a guitar, you know, I just started to I played 177 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: that thing all the day time. And the more I 178 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 2: played guitar, the less I was skateboarding. And I could 179 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 2: kind of like I got to a point where because 180 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 2: the only thing I loved in the world was skateboarding. 181 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 2: So I got to this point where I was just like, 182 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: you know what, like I think I can probably be 183 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 2: a better guitar player than a better skateboarder, and I 184 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: just really started investing all my time in a guitar 185 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 2: playing and yeah, eventually that you know, a lot of 186 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: the stuff that was going on in my family. You know, 187 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,599 Speaker 2: my dad had his stint with drugs for most of 188 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: my childhood and so that just created all kinds of 189 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 2: chaos in the house, everything that you would imagine. 190 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: And that was really. 191 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 2: Monumental in like my growth as like becoming a songwriter, 192 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 2: leaving the guitar you know, like guitar player mentality and 193 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: stepping into like singing and writing songs about all that stuff. 194 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: And that's when like music really like transformed for me, 195 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 2: where like, you know, the dip in my grades was 196 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: like for real, it was like I was like all in. 197 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 2: I just wanted to go to La start meeting people 198 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 2: and just start recording these songs. And uh yeah, that 199 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 2: was like the you know, pretty much the start of 200 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 2: my high school. And that was like a really troubling 201 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: time because I just like couldn't get my shit together 202 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 2: in school. Man, I just wanted to play on that 203 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 2: guitar and start bands. So but yeah, that was that 204 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: was kind of like you know, the cadensed. 205 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: Version of a of a. 206 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 2: Up and down lifestyle and up and down California between 207 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: northern and southern California and my upbringing. 208 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: But it's really a storybook, really life here. When you 209 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:44,839 Speaker 4: get to, you know, join a band that you were 210 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: a fan of and tour and record, I mean you 211 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 4: must have just you know, pinched yourself in amazement of 212 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 4: what you had accomplished. 213 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Dude. 214 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: It was crazy, like all I ever wanted to do 215 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 2: when I was a kid, you know how Like did 216 00:11:59,360 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: they tell. 217 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: You to like hold your breath. 218 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 2: When you're going under like a bridge, or you're going 219 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: like in an underpass, or like you're going over a bridge, 220 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: you know, hold your breath and make a wish? 221 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: Right. 222 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 2: Ever since I was a kid man, all I could 223 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 2: remember was like when I blow out the candles and 224 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 2: I'd make a wish and you're not supposed to tell anybody. 225 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: All I would wish was to be a professional musician. 226 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 2: And I would say those words because I wanted to 227 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: at least be able to live off music, you know. 228 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 2: Like I had a couple of uncles that like play guitar, 229 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,520 Speaker 2: and they were just like, you know, just living a 230 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: miserable life, and I just at least wanted to put 231 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 2: some food on my table, playing playing the guitar. I 232 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 2: didn't want to go to college to like get to 233 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: this point now, like that's where a lot of the 234 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 2: gratitude comes from. And you know, moving to LA was 235 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: like it took so much to like then get to LA. 236 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,079 Speaker 2: But then, like you know, what happened in Los Angeles 237 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: really didn't pan out the way I thought I was 238 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 2: going to pan out either. Like I never thought in 239 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: a million years that I would be fronting the band 240 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: that was plastered all over my wall as a kid. 241 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 2: That was just something that you know, life kind of unfolds, 242 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: you know, the journey kind of opens doors for you 243 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: that you know you probably wouldn't have. 244 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: Opened or even like fathomed as possible. 245 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: Never in a million years when I was listening to 246 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,599 Speaker 2: Sublime as a kid, that I think that one to 247 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: heavy jamming with Button Airic singing those songs, it's crazy. 248 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: And during that journey, I met this band called the 249 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 2: Dirty Heads, and this. 250 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: Was I've heard of them. 251 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: This was a year. 252 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: Before I even met anybody in Sublime yet, so I 253 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 2: introduced to I was introduced to the Dirty Heads, and 254 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 2: I started hanging with those guys, and they were like 255 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 2: just playing, you know, probably like fifty people in like 256 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: bars and clubs and stuff, just you know, just like 257 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 2: getting that phase going in the van, you know. And 258 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: when I met them, like I listened to the music 259 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: I saw, like their YouTube stuff, and I was like, oh, dude, 260 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: they're so good, Like their music. 261 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: Is so rad. 262 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: I was a little more in like funny enough kind 263 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 2: of doing what I'm doing now, like more music that 264 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: it's like I'm making now. 265 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: That's kind of where I was before I joined Sublime. 266 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: And so when I met the Dirty Heads, I was 267 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: listening to what they were doing, you know, with their 268 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: first record, and I was like, man, it's such beautiful music. 269 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: I'd loved their mixture of everything, so naturally, you know, 270 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: we were like, let's write a song together. 271 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 1: Man. You know, I was living in my van at 272 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: the time. 273 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: They all had day jobs, and we wrote this song, 274 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: this little old song, lay Me Down, and we liked it. 275 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,040 Speaker 1: It was cool, you know. But they already had a record. 276 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 2: That went out just eight months prior, so they weren't 277 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 2: in no rush. Their label wasn't any rush to go 278 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: and get in the studio and record a song. And man, 279 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: that song sat around for like a year, and one 280 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 2: day our manager, who I later ended up being managed 281 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 2: by the same managers as the Dirty Heads manager. Uh, 282 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 2: the Dirty Heads manager took their demo step step like 283 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 2: a CD of like a stack of songs, so like 284 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: maybe four or five songs, took them up to Kevin 285 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 2: Weatherley over at k Rock, who's like the most influential 286 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: man in alternative radio. You know, Kevin Weatherly. Big shout 287 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: out right away for changing all of our lives. Big 288 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 2: shout out to Lisa Warden. Love you so much. You 289 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: know these are great times man. And our manager Cheese 290 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 2: like he played them, you know the song They had 291 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: this song with Slash playing guitar, and that was like 292 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 2: the one. You know, It's like, okay, this is the 293 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: one we loaded it up. You know, this is the 294 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 2: good song. We got Slashes a feature, this is this 295 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: is the one. But uh, our manager's assistant, her favorite 296 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 2: song was let Me Down, the song that me and 297 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 2: the guys did, which was just a crappy old demo 298 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: we just put together at Aby Studio, and so she 299 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: put that song. 300 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: At number one. God bless her heart. 301 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 2: Shout out camera and man, Kevin Weatherley popped that CD 302 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 2: in hit Play in the meeting and oh, oh freaking 303 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: lay me downstarted and she's my manager, damn here had 304 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 2: a heart attack. 305 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: But you know he already started vibing, so you don't 306 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: stop the man. 307 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 2: He's already tapping his toe and shaking his head. So 308 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: he's like whatever. Man, he loved the song. He played 309 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: it back four times in a row. He was like, 310 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 2: played again, played again, played again. He loved the song, 311 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 2: was like, this is a hit this you know how 312 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: it used to go back in the day. 313 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: Which it still does sometimes, and you know, man, the 314 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: rest was history. 315 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 2: You know. 316 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: He put it on. 317 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 2: He's like, let's hear how it does on the phones. 318 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: That was like a demo, you know. Our manager, it 319 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 2: was like it's not even mastered yet. He's like, oh, 320 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: you want to hear how it sounds mastered on the radio. 321 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 2: Here you go, we're gonna go play it. And he 322 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 2: just goes and plays it and the phones blew up 323 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 2: like crazy, And I mean, that song really changed our 324 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: lives overnight. You know, I got a publishing deal within 325 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 2: a month from Sony ATV and you know, because I 326 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:07,920 Speaker 2: wrote half that song with guys and they were like hey, 327 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:09,160 Speaker 2: you got more songs. 328 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that's all I do is sit and 329 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,959 Speaker 1: write songs. Like of course I got more songs. 330 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 2: And so they were like, here's a deal, can you 331 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: write more songs for other artists? 332 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,120 Speaker 1: And I didn't even know that that was a thing. 333 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: So I started writing all these songs for all these 334 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 2: other artists and getting introduced to all these just amazingly 335 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 2: talented people where I'm like the easily the least talented 336 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 2: person in the room for like years and just soaking 337 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: it up man. And I mean it's just been such 338 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: a fun ride, like to you know that part and 339 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 2: then like boom joining in with Sublime and then getting 340 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 2: to tour around the world. So I mean you just 341 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 2: never know, like keeping an open mind, and I think 342 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 2: that sort of like humility of like I just still 343 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,119 Speaker 2: can't believe that, like, you know, this is what I 344 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 2: can do for a living. I don't have to go 345 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 2: work at like you know, do roofing anymore. So it's like, yeah, 346 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 2: it's rad I'm very grateful for that. And I think 347 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 2: that sort of energy is like what keeps me waking 348 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 2: up in the morning and. 349 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 4: Like after you know, no, no doubt, no doubt. 350 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 3: They'll be right back with more of the Taking a 351 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: Walk Podcast. Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 352 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 4: So let's play this little game called Fast five. I'm 353 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 4: gonna ask you five fast questions and get your get 354 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 4: your your comments here. First of all, first album you 355 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:34,159 Speaker 4: ever bought. 356 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Self titled Sublime. 357 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,880 Speaker 4: First concert you ever attended, Van's Warp tour. 358 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: I wanted to see UH three eleven in Bayside. 359 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 4: First time you heard your music on the radio? 360 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: Oh man, I was. 361 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: I was like sitting on my friend's couch watching TV. 362 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: It was actually his girlfriends and my manager about that. 363 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: It was that day he called me. It was just like, hey, 364 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 2: what are you doing. I'm like, I'm just sitting on 365 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 2: the couch watching TV. He's like, turn on K Rock 366 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 2: in five minutes and then he's like, call your mom. 367 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: You're you're gonna be a rock star. And that's what 368 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 2: he said. And I was like, what are you talking about? 369 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 2: And yeah, I heard lay Me Down on. We went 370 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 2: in my homie, his girlfriend's She used to drive like 371 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 2: this baby blue like VW Bug. It's like a twenty 372 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 2: twelve or something, and right now it's older than that. 373 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: It's two thousand and seven because the song came out No. 374 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: Nine and yeah, man, we just sat there and I man, 375 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 2: I almost blew her speakers out. We turned it up 376 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:38,439 Speaker 2: so dang loud, and yeah, you just you never forget 377 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 2: that moment even to this day. It don't matter where 378 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 2: you're at. When you hear yourself on the radio or 379 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 2: you know, come on on the satellite radio at a 380 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 2: restaurant or something, it's like the most just takes you 381 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 2: right back to being a kid, and you're like, this 382 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: is like why I do it? You know, I love this. 383 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 2: I love that this is possible. 384 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: First moment you knew you were going to have a 385 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 4: life of music. 386 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: Oh man. 387 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 2: You know, part of being an artist is like that 388 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 2: unshakable fear that all this is gonna go away. But 389 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 2: I just started to kind of get rid of that 390 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 2: whole thing. Funny enough, leaving Sublime. I know that sounds ridiculous. 391 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,359 Speaker 2: There's this kind of feeling with artistry where it's like 392 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: it's like almost too good to be true. That can 393 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: drive you mad. But when you're kind of by yourself, 394 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: when you're on your own, before you're like married with 395 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 2: children and stuff. 396 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: You don't really care. 397 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 2: You know, young and dumb, young and reckless, you know, 398 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 2: live fast down young, right, you're just living for the moment. 399 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 2: But once you start packing on like responsibilities, you know, 400 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 2: to people that you love your children, you know, God. 401 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: You know, bless it, like God forbid. 402 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: You even become like somewhat remotely successful where you start 403 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: hiring some of your family, Like you start to know, 404 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 2: build something that becomes greater than yourself. So you think 405 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 2: it starts to make the art part and this whole 406 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: dream and the career thing like it starts to put 407 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 2: pressure on it and a little squeeze on it, and 408 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 2: things get complicated, and you know, you see a lot 409 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: of artists that just can't handle that. Either they quit, 410 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 2: or you know, they harm themselves with drugs and alcohol, 411 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 2: or you know, even worse, you know, they take their 412 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: own lives. 413 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean everything in between. 414 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: I think it's important to kind of shake all that 415 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 2: and and you know, to make a long story short, 416 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 2: just within the last year, honestly, leaving Sublime was kind 417 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,959 Speaker 2: of when I was like kind of figured out and 418 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: trusted myself and trusted the world and God and just 419 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: was like. 420 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what's gonna happen. 421 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 2: But I know, like I'm happy, and I know I'm committed, 422 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 2: and this is like I have music that that I 423 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:58,760 Speaker 2: die for and and that that's that's the energy. 424 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: You know. 425 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: I love it. I love it. Okay, one more on 426 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: the fast five. First instrument you ever bought? 427 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: First instrument guitar? Electric guitar. 428 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, my dad he got one a pawn shop and 429 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: brought it home and haven't put it down since. 430 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: How now, like eleven years old. 431 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,479 Speaker 4: Eleven years old? I love it. So take us behind 432 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 4: the creation of Yme. It's such an awesome project. And 433 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 4: you know this you described a little while ago. You know, 434 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,720 Speaker 4: the confidence that it took to make this move. You're 435 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 4: at this moment in time. I think that is an 436 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: amazing moment. So, uh, take us a little bit behind 437 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: the curtain on the creation of YME. 438 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: I'd love to well. 439 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: It all kind of stems from like the pandemic because 440 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: Sublime with Rome had been touring, you know, every year 441 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: since its formation, and like many other artists, when the 442 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 2: pandemic happened, you know, we were forced to kind of 443 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,240 Speaker 2: throw on the tal for a little bit and you 444 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 2: know kind of has time off. So I started like 445 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: live streaming and a lot of people were sitting at 446 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: home too, so these rooms were getting like really full, 447 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 2: and you know, I started getting all these fands, and 448 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: after I just ran through all the catalog and all 449 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,880 Speaker 2: the Sublime stuff and Sublime with Rome stuff, people were 450 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 2: just like, dude, do you got any music that you're 451 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: working on? And the honest answer was like no, Like 452 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,919 Speaker 2: I hadn't worked on music for myself in so long. 453 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: I mean, I'd just been writing songs for other people, 454 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 2: and that was like. 455 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: I had all this time. So I was like, you 456 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 1: know what, that sounds like a lot of fun. 457 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 2: So I started waking up in the morning and going 458 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,680 Speaker 2: to the studio and just like putting together these songs 459 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 2: and kind of putting together my whole like sound that 460 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: I was like really after in my head, like the 461 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,479 Speaker 2: sounds that I loved and the music that had the 462 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: most inspiring, Like that was the most inspiring to me. 463 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: And I wanted to just kind of fuse all that 464 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: together and and you know, see what happens, you know, 465 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: because it wasn't like I was going to like put 466 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 2: an album out and go on tour. 467 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: It was like the pandemic, you know. 468 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,239 Speaker 2: And once I started doing that, man, it just like 469 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 2: became such a labor of love. Like because most other 470 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 2: songs that I would write there were for a reason. 471 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: They were for an artist, for you know, an an 472 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 2: R hit me up, or you know, we need this 473 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: kind of record for this artist. 474 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: Are you interested to take a session. 475 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 2: Here's a couple of songs, you know, or with Sublime, 476 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 2: you know, I had other people, you know, I had 477 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: to listen to the music, and so this was something 478 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 2: that was just so free and so creative and it 479 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 2: you know, and it just created like a. 480 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: Sound for me and an outlet. 481 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: So after a while, I just like really couldn't couldn't 482 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,119 Speaker 2: like get away from the music. 483 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: It was like all I really wanted to do. 484 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 2: You know, even being on the road with Sublime, with Rome, 485 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 2: I would start really thinking about, you know, once it 486 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: opened up the world, I would just be thinking about 487 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: wanting to be at home and like record this music 488 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: and like, you know, oh, man, I want to play 489 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: this song Mide live in front of all these people. 490 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: But you know, you can't do that. It don't work 491 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: like that. 492 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: And that's you know why Me was one of the 493 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 2: later songs that I really tacked onto the album, and 494 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 2: it was because it was like my kind of just 495 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: wrapping up my entire tenor with Sublime, and even like 496 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 2: the single artwork of the song is a picture of 497 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: me when I was twelve on my bed and you 498 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 2: can see like six Sublime posters in the background. Because 499 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: you know, that's my favorite band, getting to tour around 500 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 2: the world with them, and then now stepping into like 501 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 2: my solo venture and putting out my first bit of music. 502 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: I wanted to pay homage to that, And you know. 503 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: The song is just really about being grateful and about 504 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: seeing the world through like. 505 00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:58,719 Speaker 1: A better lens. 506 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 2: You know, don't know who said it, but I heard 507 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: this really cool quote where it's like one of the 508 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: most important decisions you'll ever make is when you wake 509 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: up if the world is going to be a good 510 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,280 Speaker 2: place or if it's like a harmful, terrible place. And 511 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 2: I'm you know, butchering that, but I just think that 512 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 2: that is like so true. So I wanted to flip 513 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: an old age old saying like why me, kind of 514 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 2: flipping on its head and turn it in into about 515 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 2: something you know about like why me, like I'm so grateful, Like. 516 00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 4: You know, can you talk about some of the other 517 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 4: songs that really excite you to go out and you 518 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 4: know show people at the festivals and other shows you'll 519 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: be playing it. 520 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. 521 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 2: So I have this other song that I'm just so 522 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: excited for everyone to hear. It's called Slow and Easy. 523 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 2: And this song is like, you know, really it's it's 524 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 2: about like me and my wife and just like you know, 525 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 2: focus on so many things and trying to have control 526 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 2: over all these aspects of our life and make sure 527 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 2: everyone's living optimally, you know, ourselves last on the Total 528 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 2: poll always. And I wanted to write about that and 529 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 2: just kind of take a you know, write a song 530 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 2: about unplugging and just taking it slow and easy and 531 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: just kind of like getting back to the simpler kind 532 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 2: of things and just you know, disconnecting a little bit. 533 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 2: And you know, it has this vibe of the music 534 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 2: that I love so much. You know, it's like this 535 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 2: you know, it's got like some rhythmic notes and the 536 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 2: soulfulness of reggae, but it uses like almost. 537 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 1: Really really effortlessly with like you. 538 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: Know, soul and like like you know, folk like Van 539 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 2: Morrison almost. So it's like this tone, like this sound 540 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 2: that I'm just obsessed with that I think I've kind 541 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,720 Speaker 2: of stumbled into and. 542 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just it was so awesome the way 543 00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:57,119 Speaker 1: it was. 544 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 2: But then I was like, you know, what, how rad 545 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,160 Speaker 2: would it be to like put the Dirty Heads on here, 546 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,840 Speaker 2: because one there were my brothers and this is like 547 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,920 Speaker 2: one of my favorite songs on the record, so it 548 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 2: would just be awesome for like a full circle moment, 549 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 2: you know, like everyone is so used to you know, 550 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 2: like lay me Down, Like whenever we're on tour together, 551 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 2: all sing lay me Down with them, and you know, 552 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 2: it's like it's kind of like a summer anthem for 553 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 2: like our our age generation. So I was like, this 554 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 2: is like the most summer anthem track that I have 555 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 2: on the album, and I got to put my boys 556 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 2: on it, so it's like almost full circle, you know. 557 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,919 Speaker 2: And that's that's a song that's like really you know, 558 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 2: near and dear to me. And one of the other 559 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 2: songs that I definitely want to highlight on the record 560 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 2: is a is a song called knw Me, and you know, 561 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: it's it's kind of like a double entendre where where 562 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's it's. 563 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 1: Talking about like. 564 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 2: You say you knew me, but you never knew me 565 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: at all, you know, because it's like it's like a 566 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: newer version of yourself that sometimes people they'll take for 567 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 2: granted what's in front of them and then like, you know, 568 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: expect to keep you in like a box or whatever. 569 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 2: And you know, it can happen in relationships very often, 570 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 2: but you know it can also happen in you know, 571 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: business relationships and in bands and all kinds of anytime 572 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 2: you're dealing with another people in general, you know. And 573 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to write about that sort of feeling and 574 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 2: that sort of experience. So that's That's another song that 575 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: I'm really excited for the world to hear. 576 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: You know. 577 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: It's cool being able to I have these shows and 578 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 2: these festivals that I've been playing, you know, Cali Vibes 579 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 2: and Cali Roots and Summerfest July fifteenth and all. 580 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: These cool festivals, and I feel like I'm kind. 581 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 2: Of doing it like my music career now, I'm kind 582 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 2: of doing it in like like a little more of 583 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 2: an old fashioned way where I'm I'm writing these songs 584 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: on like that guitar, you know, and then I'm going 585 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: live and I'm just playing them and I'm getting the 586 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: feedback and I'm like seeing what's moving. 587 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: I'm like that bridge is too long, you know, Da 588 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: da da da, or like this song's boring, you. 589 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 2: Know, or you know, and I'm kind of like and 590 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 2: now I'm coming home, and then I'm like, these are 591 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 2: the songs that I want to record. 592 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: And it's awesome. You know. 593 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 2: It's like so much different than like how a lot 594 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,600 Speaker 2: of it's done now where it's like, you know, it's 595 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 2: just you in a little room like this and a 596 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: little camera like that, and you're just make and make 597 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 2: and make and self mix and put it out and 598 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: shoot and shoot and shoot and shoot and put it 599 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 2: out and shoot and put it out. And I mean, 600 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: as an artist, it sounds awesome, but it's it's not 601 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 2: very fair to the art, is it. So I like 602 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 2: living and I like being with my fans and letting 603 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: them kind of determine help me determine the songs that 604 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 2: we need in the movement. 605 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 4: You know, you are in a zone, you know the 606 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 4: term the zone. You are in a zone I could 607 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 4: absolutely tell with with this new music and hitting the 608 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: road by the way you mentioned Van Morrison. Shout out 609 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 4: to Van if you haven't checked out his brand new 610 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 4: song called Remembering Now, check it out. 611 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: I don't check that out. 612 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 4: I've heard that it's outstanding. It's one of his best 613 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 4: things he's done in years. But I wanted to mention 614 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 4: that for sure. So in closing Rome, when you sort 615 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 4: of think about younger Rome and Rome at this age, 616 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 4: what would you tell younger Rome in terms of advice 617 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 4: that you know you think about now as the older room. 618 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 2: Drink less alcohol, for sure, But you know, like, honestly, 619 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: if I didn't drink lass hour, if I didn't if 620 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 2: I drink less alcohol, I don't know if I. 621 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: Would be chiller right now if I learned. 622 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: You know, I had to go make a fool myself 623 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,600 Speaker 2: a couple of times in the world for me to 624 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 2: calm down, just like I had to touch the fire. 625 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: You know, I'm one of those people. 626 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we're like, no matter how many times you tell me, 627 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 2: no matter how many videos or how many books, I 628 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: just got to learn it on my own. And I learned. 629 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 2: I learned a lot about life watching my old man. 630 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: So I'm very grateful for that. I tell him that 631 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 2: all the time. I love him for that. I wouldn't 632 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 2: change a damn thing about it. Every night, everything that 633 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 2: we went through, it made me who I am. I'm 634 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 2: a good ass dad, and I take pride in that more. 635 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: That's the thing that I'm the most prideful about. All 636 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 2: that stuff let me to this point now. So but 637 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 2: I would go back and say, you know, hey, man, 638 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 2: like chill out all the booze a little bit and 639 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 2: call your mom more. 640 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 1: You know. 641 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:42,960 Speaker 3: I love it. 642 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:49,480 Speaker 4: Rome, Congratulations on your solo debuts. It's incredible music. I'm 643 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 4: so happy for you, and I'm so honored that you 644 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 4: came on to Take on a Walk podcast. Thank you, Rom, 645 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 4: It's an honor of us. 646 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for having me brother. 647 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 3: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Take a 648 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 3: Walk Podcast. 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