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Speaker 1: There are No Girls on the Internet. As a production

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Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio and Unbossed Creative, I'm Bridget Todd, and this

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Speaker 1: is there are no girls on the Internet. So I

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Speaker 1: don't need to tell anybody listening that everything feels awful.

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Speaker 1: My idols are dead and my enemies are in power.

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Speaker 1: But there is one tiny, tiny, tiny silver lining, which

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Speaker 1: is that everything going on gives me a reason to

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Speaker 1: talk about my absolute favorite moment in pop culture history,

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Speaker 1: the moment that is my personal Roman Empire, and that

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Speaker 1: is the time that Azalea Banks was trapped in Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk's house. I have been wanting to make this episode

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Speaker 1: for literal years, and now is the time.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations, Bridget. I know you have wanted to make this

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Speaker 2: episode for a very long time. Why now you've been

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Speaker 2: waiting so long? Why to great question?

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Speaker 1: I think there is this attitude amongst I lovingly call

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Speaker 1: these people like normies, like people who are not listening

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Speaker 1: to this podcast. If you're listening to this podcast, you

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Speaker 1: are not a normy, like people who are not super

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Speaker 1: online that think that Elon Musk is this brilliant guy,

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Speaker 1: this brilliant businessman who has started companies that are super

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Speaker 1: successful and that it would actually be a good thing

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Speaker 1: for the country if he brought all that genius, business acumen,

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Speaker 1: shrue decision making and sound judgment to the country, Like

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Speaker 1: when I go home and visit family a lot of

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Speaker 1: times they I think they have a very surface level,

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Speaker 1: casual understanding of who Elon Musk is, and I think

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Speaker 1: that that really allows them to feed into this narrative

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Speaker 1: that he is this smart, sound, solid guy. I do

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Speaker 1: think that attitude is starting to break a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think that we're starting to see people,

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Speaker 1: even Trump supporters, be like, well, well, I love Trump,

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Speaker 1: but I hate that Elon Musk. So I do think

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Speaker 1: some of this addit who is starting to break and

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Speaker 1: where people are starting to globally see him for who

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Speaker 1: he really is. But when somebody has that opinion about

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk that he's this like smart guy, that just

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Speaker 1: tells me that that person has really not been following

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk's absolute historic record of dogshit decision making like

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Speaker 1: truly L after L after l, because if they were,

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Speaker 1: there is no way that they would think this is

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Speaker 1: a sound mind that we want in the White House.

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Speaker 1: They would be saying, this is somebody that I would

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Speaker 1: not be putting in charge of anything.

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Speaker 2: My personal favorite is I just watched this like hour

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Speaker 2: long YouTube video about him lying about being good at

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Speaker 2: video games. It just really stuck with me. He's like

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Speaker 2: the richest man in the world, and he invested so

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Speaker 2: much time and money in creating this false narrative that

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Speaker 2: he's good at video games, like for what he just

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Speaker 2: seems like an unwell dude, Mike.

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Speaker 1: That is a great example. It's these elaborate lies that

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Speaker 1: remind me of that kid that we all knew in

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Speaker 1: then like build out a whole fantasy world to maintain

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Speaker 1: a self aggrandizing lie. If you were a billionaire, why

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Speaker 1: where you're good at a specific video game? That is

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Speaker 1: not something a well adjusted dare I say, shrewd mind

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Speaker 1: Elon's career of lies, scams, and losses say like, oh,

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Speaker 1: They don't know him like we know him, because the

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Speaker 1: person that we would then want to empower in the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get the sense that he's like Trump, like

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Speaker 2: don't know exactly what it is, but like, clearly these

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Speaker 1: So I will give Trump something like I am loath

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Speaker 1: that comes from being somebody who who became empowered on

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Speaker 1: doesn't have any of that. I think that like Elon

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Speaker 1: Like He's just not like the things that make Trump

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Speaker 1: in the one hundred different examples from his career that

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Speaker 1: Azalea Banks, which, by the way, I watched this shit

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Speaker 1: like every story that Banks dropped, I was screenshotting like

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Speaker 1: if you're thinking, Bridget, what are you talking about? Listen up,

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Speaker 1: because if you weren't there, I'm about to fill y'all in.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Bridget, I wasn't there. What are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Well, we got to start with who is Azalea Banks.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like, can't imagine somebody would be an

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Speaker 1: But the kind of top level she is a musician

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Speaker 1: from she had a come up in this very interesting

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Speaker 1: Don't worry, that's gonna be the only Diplow mention of

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Speaker 2: We don't have to get into a fight about Diplo.

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Speaker 1: Well, people listening are probably like, oh, because Diplow is

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Speaker 1: don't need to We don't need to religate religate it now, but.

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Speaker 1: So Azalea Banks was doing super interesting stuff that really

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Speaker 1: But I'll las so Azalea Banks was like doing things

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Speaker 1: Was someone who was, for me, like a very important

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Speaker 1: for her own come up. In twenty eleven, she starts

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Speaker 1: writing the song two one two, which would go on

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Speaker 1: because when I say that Azalea Banks is two one

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Speaker 1: like in the twenty tens, we maybe didn't realize how

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even I know that song, it's it's an awesome song.

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Speaker 2: Still you still hear it like a lot? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Like that song is the culture. There's this really

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Speaker 1: like this song, it's just like really defined an era.

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Speaker 1: It's still the song that I get dressed to when

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Speaker 1: I don't care it is. It is my forever banger,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people listening, I know you agree

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like you really like Azalia banks Bridge.

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Speaker 2: It so like, what's the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's her? Her, She's the problem. It's her. Azalea is

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Speaker 1: would say that he's taking it private at four twenty?

434
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Speaker 1: Do you get it? Is it too sophisticated for you?

435
00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 2: I believe that's a reference to what the kids call merrillan.

436
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a marijuana joke, a weed joke.

437
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: It's I know, Elon's jokes are always they're just like.

438
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: They're not good. It's not're not good shoke. Like it

439
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: makes me think of like the movie How High or

440
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 2: something right, Like I thought that shit was hilarious when

441
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:19,040
Speaker 2: I was like sixteen and high?

442
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,880
Speaker 1: How dare you how hot? Don't don't do method man

443
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 1: like that? Like their humor is a lot is it

444
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: may not be the most sophisticated out there, but it's

445
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: not just for.

446
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 2: Twenty oh lo, well, like, you're right, you're right, I'm

447
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 2: thinking of different shows that that is a good, good movie.

448
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,920
Speaker 1: So Musk's for twenty announcement made Tesla shaer skyrocket, closing

449
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: the market and an eleven percent rise, with stocks at

450
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,479
Speaker 1: three hundred and seventy nine dollars and fifty seven cents apiece.

451
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: This rise brought Musk's personal network up to twenty five

452
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: point eight billion, earning him one point four billion dollars

453
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: that single day. It kind of becomes a meme being like, oh,

454
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,800
Speaker 1: I'm going public at four twenty. But you kind of

455
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 1: can't just do that, according to the SEC, because on

456
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 1: August eighth, the Wall Street Journal reported that the SEC

457
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: had opened an inquiry into Musk's announcements about taking Tesla

458
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,360
Speaker 1: private on Twitter. If his claim was to prove untrue,

459
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: Musk's tweet may have violated US securities law. So not great,

460
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: like he could be committing financial crimes publicly on Twitter

461
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 1: with Azalea Banks in his house live streaming the entire thing.

462
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,639
Speaker 1: And if you believe Azalea Banks, she was essentially a

463
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: witness to all of this, And not only that, she's

464
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: providing like play by play commentary of everything that he's doing.

465
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: So if the SEC is kind of low key accusing

466
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: him of a crime, you get Azalea Banks in your

467
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560
Speaker 1: house at the same time giving a public blow by

468
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,240
Speaker 1: blow of those alleged crimes. So this is what I

469
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 1: mean when I say that we should really think about

470
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: what this incident means. And like the fact that he

471
00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 1: is now in charge of so much of how our

472
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: country is run, Like, this is not a smart person.

473
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: It's not a savvy person. This is not an efficient person,

474
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 1: Azilia said. I saw him in the kitchen tucking his

475
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: tail between his legs, scrounging for investors to cover his ass.

476
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 1: After that tweet, she told Business Insider he was stressed

477
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: and red in the face. He's not cute at all

478
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,000
Speaker 1: in person, she added.

479
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 2: Not cute at all. What is insult.

480
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 1: This is something else you gonna learn about Azilia is

481
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: that she really good at a turn of phrase, Like,

482
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: no matter what you think about her, she really is

483
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: a good talk Well we'll talk more about it in

484
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: a minute, but she really is a very good insulter.

485
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 1: Like nobody, nobody can insult like her. She really is

486
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: good at it. So, Banks says that Elon tweeted all

487
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,280
Speaker 1: of this, all of this stuff about taking Tesla public

488
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: while he was allegedly on acid, a claim that I

489
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: absolutely woulde hundred percent believe. She wrote that she waited

490
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: around all weekend while Grimes coddled her boyfriend for being

491
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: too stupid to know not to go on Twitter while

492
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: on acid. So, according to if you believe his Ellie Banks,

493
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 1: this entire thing was like a manifestation of a bad

494
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 1: acid trip or something.

495
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 2: And also, going on Twitter while on acid does seem

496
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 2: like a very bad idea.

497
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: Terrible idea. Again, somebody who thinks it's a good idea

498
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: to take acid go on Twitter and start maybe kind

499
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: of allegedly low key tweeting about your business's crimes. Is

500
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: that the kind of mind that we want a hair

501
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 1: away from the executive? I would argue, No, I would argue, Now.

502
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: You know, another businessman, though, might have had like a

503
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 2: whole communications team in place to manage his communications, and

504
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: they wouldn't have tweeted a bunch of lies while on acid.

505
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: But his way is much more efficient. He's just got

506
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 2: that team out entirely. Okay. So so she says that

507
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: he was on acid at the time, does he agree.

508
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: No.

509
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 1: Once reporters start asking questions, he was like, oh, that

510
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: never happened. Speaking with Gizmoto for an article published on

511
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: August thirteenth, Musk says that quote he never even met

512
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 1: Azalea Banks or communicated with her in any way. At

513
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: this point, Grimes announces that she's heading to Vegas to

514
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: meet Elin to go to a hacker conference, so she's

515
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: not coming back to his house at all to do

516
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: this collaboration, and Azalea is not happy. Meanwhile, Banks goes

517
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: off on Grimes and Musk in a series of Instagram stories,

518
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 1: accusing Crimes of actually being the one who was leaking

519
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: the information about what Elon is doing. So I gotta

520
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: give a little PSA here. This is me reading Azalea

521
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: Banks's words, just so we're all clear, she writes. Lol.

522
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: Elon Musk is better off hiring an escort. At least

523
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 1: an escort would have kept her mouth shut about his business.

524
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: He's got some dirty sneaker inbred out the woods, paps

525
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: beer pussy, meth head junkie running around town telling everyone

526
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: everything about him, all because she needed a date to

527
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: the Metga to hide his shrinking dick from Amber heard Lol.

528
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: Elon Musk was once in a relationship with Amberherd, a

529
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: fucking rebound, a beta male who took steroids and got

530
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,239
Speaker 1: hair plugs to convince himself he was alpha. There's no

531
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: reason that in this collab with Crimes, I know so

532
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: much about Elon Musk. Grimes really is an idiot, and

533
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: Elon Musk really is part of the problem when you

534
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: talk about white male privilege and colonialism. His family's wealth

535
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: is rooted in emeralds and ore mines in Southern Africa

536
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: during apartheid. This trash ass beta male pig was given

537
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: his start in life because his disgusting racist parents took

538
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: advantage of thousands of black people. Ask Elon Musk what

539
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 1: the fuck he has done for Africa? Nothing? He ignores it.

540
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: These fake ass libertarian shit baggs.

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00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 2: Damn oh okay, I mean that's an insult.

542
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Do you see what I'm saying? Because quote trash ass

543
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: beta male pig that isn't like that is a turn like,

544
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: there's like layers and.

545
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: Levels to that as an insult, dirty inbred out of

546
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 2: the woods paths fear pussy meth head junkie. I hate

547
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 2: to laugh, but that's strong language. They're fighting words for.

548
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: Me, fighting words. And what's also interesting about this is

549
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: she's writing this in twenty eighteen. This like it was

550
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: definitely part of the public understanding of Elon Musk at

551
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 1: the reason why he got wealthy is because of his

552
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 1: family's connections in South Africa, particularly their like Emerald mind.

553
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: But that was not something that like your casual observer

554
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: of Elon Musk was talking about, right like, if you

555
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: knew that, you knew that, and it was it was

556
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: out there. It was a note like I knew that

557
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. But I think like Elon Musk even

558
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: back in twenty eighteen, occupied a different space in our

559
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: political and social and cultural imagination. And I would argue

560
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: that Azeliot Banks was kind of one of the one

561
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: of the early people who took that from like something

562
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: that people who are pretty read in on these tech

563
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: spaces new and kind of pushed it forward to more popular,

564
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: accessible imagination. Does that make sense?

565
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: It does, And I guess the other way to say

566
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 2: that would be getting mixed up with Azalea Banks. Was

567
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: the beginning of Elon Musk's downfall from tech genius Golden

568
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: boy to half the country engaging in active protests about

569
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: how terrible he is.

570
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 1: I would say in a lot of ways, yes, like

571
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: even if you look at the reporting from tech reporters

572
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: that I like and trust, like I think in twenty eighteen,

573
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: Kara Swisher was still talking about Elon Musk like he

574
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: was like a sound genius that we should be looking

575
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: to for like innovation and stuff like. I do think

576
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 1: that Azalea Banks, say what you will about her, was

577
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: on the early side of this kind of turn in

578
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: our popular understanding of Elon Musk. Again, this would be

579
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: really clear. Lots of people have been telling the truth

580
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: about who Elon Musk is for a long time, and

581
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to discount that, but a lot of

582
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: people were not, And I think that Azalea Banks was

583
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: somebody who really paved the way of our under our

584
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: current understanding of who Elon Musk.

585
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Is fake ass libertarian.

586
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: Yes, So remember how Elon Musk told Gizmoto, I have

587
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: never met Azalea Banks, not even once, And he was like,

588
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: very specific and definitive about it, so he was lying.

589
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: He walked that back and was like, Okay, maybe I

590
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: did meet her once. On August sixteenth, the New York

591
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: Times confirmed that Musk and Banks did meet briefly. Musk

592
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: told the paper quote, I saw her on Friday morning

593
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: for two seconds at about a thirty foot distance as

594
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,959
Speaker 1: she was leaving the house. He continued, I just finished

595
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: working out. She was not within hearing range. I didn't

596
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: even realize who it was. That's literally the only time

597
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: I've ever laid eyes on her. Again, that just sounds

598
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: like a lie to me. The fact that he threw

599
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: in the like I had just left my bench press.

600
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: Is that a gym? It's like, okay, all right.

601
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 2: Like yeah, it just sounds like a lie. Like it

602
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,239
Speaker 2: just sounds like a lie. Like like I saw her

603
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: from thirty feet away. I didn't even recognize her, but

604
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 2: it was her, and it did Like.

605
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he has some Like I mean, I

606
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: live in a one bedroom apartment, so like if I

607
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: saw somebody in my apartment from thirty feet away, and

608
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: I'd have some questions. But I just can't imagine that

609
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: he's like, oh, who's so I'm sure that he has

610
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: like a huge compound mansion whatever, But I still can't

611
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: imagine that you would see somebody in your house from

612
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: thirty feet away and not be like, who is this

613
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: person in my house? Like I like, I feel I

614
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: feel like you would have a.

615
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: Follow up, Yeah, why is this person leaving my house?

616
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: And who are they and what are they doing in

617
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: my house? So where'd I believe that he saw her

618
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: from thirty feet away? And like was just like like

619
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: thirty feet is not that long, ag and he just

620
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 1: like like there was no words exchanged.

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00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little it defies credibility a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I'm not buying it. I'm not buying it at all. Meanwhile,

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00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: Azalea Banks is still in his house. On August twentieth,

624
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: Banks tagged Elon Musk in her Instagram story, writing you

625
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: need to contact me asap. I need my phone back now.

626
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: She said that Musk had involved an attorney in all

627
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 1: of this, writing quote, they came up with all these

628
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 1: threats of blackmail. They paid my attorney offs to take

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00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 1: my phone and delete evidence. And then in an Instagram story,

630
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: Banks said that she wanted to go home and quote,

631
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: none of this shit has anything to fucking do with me.

632
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: So it sounds like at this point stuff is like

633
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: actually getting quite messy and like maybe She's like, I

634
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: don't want to be involved in this anymore. Shortly after this,

635
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,719
Speaker 1: Musk deleted his Instagram altogether.

636
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,080
Speaker 2: Wait, so the timeline here. She tweeted all that shit

637
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,720
Speaker 2: and then continued to live in his house.

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00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:50,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so she's live tweeting, according to her like from

639
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: his house.

640
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 2: Yikes.

641
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So Azelia Banks then starts releasing screenshots of texts

642
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: that she had with Grimes, which only recently, as in

643
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: like a few months ago, Grimes actually confirmed were real.

644
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: So I was gonna have to say, like allegedly text

645
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: with her and Grimes because who knows maybe their doctor

646
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: and who knows Grimes. We have it from Grimes, these

647
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: are real texts. In the text, Azalea and Grimes get

648
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: into Elon's SEC allegations. Grimes says, quote, he just got

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Speaker 1: into weed because of me, and he's super entertained by

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Speaker 1: four to twenty So when he decided to take the

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Speaker 1: stock private, he calculated that it was worth four hundred

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Speaker 1: and nineteen dollars, so he round it up to four

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Speaker 1: twenty four a laugh, and now the SEC is investigating

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Speaker 1: him for fraud. These texts are very revealing, but they're

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Speaker 1: also like very funny to me, because Banks is just

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Speaker 1: so fucking mean to Grimes in these texts, and Grimes

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Speaker 1: just sort of comes off as like kind of clueless,

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Speaker 1: like LLL, we're besties. Like at one point, Grimes is

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Speaker 1: like telling Azalea Banks that she should find a boyfriend

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Speaker 1: so we can be pregnant at the same time. It'll

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Speaker 1: be so fun, and Banks replies, yeah, girl, as soon

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Speaker 1: as you sober up. Mean it mean, it's so mean.

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Speaker 1: So the New York Times asks Musk, like, what the

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Speaker 1: hell is going on. In an interview with The Times,

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Speaker 1: must said that he was not high when he sent

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Speaker 1: the four to twenty funding secure tweet. He said it

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Speaker 1: seemed like better karma at four twenty than four nineteen,

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Speaker 1: but I was not on weed. To be clear, weed

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Speaker 1: is not helpful for productivity. There's a reason for the

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Speaker 1: word stone. You just sit there like a stone on weed.

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Speaker 1: Also side note, by this time, there was plenty of

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Speaker 1: like public footage of him smoking joints on Joe Rogan's podcast,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know why he's trying to pretend like

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Speaker 1: I am too productive to have ever smoked weed. And

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Speaker 1: then it's like, well, there's videos of you smoking weed,

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Speaker 1: so I don't. I don't know what this is. And

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Speaker 1: also I.

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Speaker 2: Thought the claim was that he was on acid, not

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Speaker 2: on indeed.

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Speaker 1: Very perceptive right because she never mentioned weed. She said

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Speaker 1: acid specifically.

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Speaker 2: Pretty different substances, correct.

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Speaker 1: I think at this point Banks was like, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: is too much heat, even for my wild So she

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Speaker 1: kind of apologizes to Elon Musk via a letter that

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Speaker 1: she posted on social media after she had left his house.

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Speaker 1: She says in it, she says that during the time

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Speaker 1: that she was in his home quote, she was welcome

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00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: to a lot of information about Musk that made her

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00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: feel awkward or uncomfortable, but that she never had any

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Speaker 1: intentions of using that information against him. Mind you, In

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Speaker 1: her apology, she never says she was lying about anything

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Speaker 1: or that she made anything up. He just says, I

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Speaker 1: inadvertently got a lot of information about you, and it

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Speaker 1: wasn't I didn't mean to tell the world about information,

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Speaker 1: and I wasn't trying to use it against you. It's

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Speaker 1: telling to me that she doesn't say she made it up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's just a lot going on here.

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Speaker 2: The fact that she's posting all of this to a

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Speaker 2: variety of social platforms is something I don't know what

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Speaker 2: it is, but it's something.

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Speaker 1: Well. Right after her apology that she posted on social

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Speaker 1: media to musk, she then posted a screenshot of a

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Speaker 1: Washington Post story about Tesla remaining public and captioned it quote,

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Speaker 1: if it ain't broke, don't let your druggy art school

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Speaker 1: girlfriend convince you to break it. And then in a

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Speaker 1: later Instagram story, she writes, quote, congratulate fucking relations. I

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Speaker 1: literally save you from being eaten alive by a weird,

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Speaker 1: cannibalistic feminist, pagan lesbian electronic music cult.

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Speaker 2: Wow. So she like hates Grimes at this point.

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Speaker 1: I'm not even sure if I would say that she does,

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Speaker 1: But I just think that Grimes is someone that she

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Speaker 1: just cannot help insulting. Like she just like really does

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Speaker 1: not respect Grimes at all that she wants to make

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Speaker 1: that clear, like two Grimes of Space.

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Speaker 3: More. After a quick break, let's get right back into it.

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Speaker 1: So Bangs has left must house, and you might think

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Speaker 1: that this is where things end and we forget about everything,

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Speaker 1: But you know who didn't forget You know who doesn't

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Speaker 1: forget elephants, Elephants and the sec. Because Azalia Banks was

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Speaker 1: subpoenaed in a lawsuit against Tesla and Elon Musk, which

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Speaker 1: according to the complaint, was partly focused on what happened

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Speaker 1: during that time that she spent at his house. Banks

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Speaker 1: did an interview with Business Insider via DMS when this

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Speaker 1: whole thing was happening, saying the first round of Elon

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Speaker 1: Musk bullshit was stressful enough. I don't have bandwidth for

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Speaker 1: another row with him. Also side note, Business Insider was

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Speaker 1: also subpoenas, Like they were subpoena and everybody. They really

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00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,839
Speaker 1: wanted to get to the bottom of what was going

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Speaker 1: on in this situation.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting because like this was the first Trumpe administration. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're SEC going after Musk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, Azalea was subpoenaed by attorneys for plaintiffs in

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Speaker 1: a class action lawsuit against Musk and Tesla. The lawsuit,

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Speaker 1: filed by Tesla investors in twenty eighteen, alleged that Musk

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Speaker 1: made false and misleading statements when he tweeted that funding

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Speaker 1: was quote secured to take Tesla private at four to

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Speaker 1: twenty a share in twenty eighteen. It makes absolute sense

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Speaker 1: that the SEC would come to talk to Azalia after

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Speaker 1: that four twenty tweet because she again. She said that

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Speaker 1: she saw him with her own eyes scrounging for investors

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Speaker 1: to cover his ass on that tweet, and that she

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Speaker 1: tweeted it. He tweeted it while he was ineborated on acid,

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Speaker 1: and like I said, Business Insider was also subpoena for

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Speaker 1: their DMS with Azale Banks. Here's a little taste of

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Speaker 1: the subpoena quote. Grimes and miss Banks were in close

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Speaker 1: contact with mister Musk before and after the tweet and

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Speaker 1: are believed to be in possession of relevant evidence concerning

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Speaker 1: mister Musk's motives. This is from Adam m Apton and

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Speaker 1: Levi Korninski, the firm representing the investors. Business Insider also

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Speaker 1: appears to have relevant evidence in light of its relationship

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Speaker 1: with Miss Banks. So what happened, Well, I will say

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Speaker 1: that a jury did clear Musk of liability, and it

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Speaker 1: seems like that's kind of it. Back in October of

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, a federal peels court seemed unlikely to

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Speaker 1: disturb the jury's verdict clearing Musk in his company of

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Speaker 1: liability over the allegations of the misled investors when he

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Speaker 1: tweeted on social media. Back in twenty eighteen, that funding

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Speaker 1: had been secured to take Tesla private. So Elon did

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Speaker 1: not face liability and probably won't on this specific thing.

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Speaker 1: But that incident really does linger large in our cultural

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Speaker 1: understanding of who Musk is, whether you realize it or not.

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Speaker 1: So the thing about Azalea Banks is that she goes

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00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: nuclear immediately, and she does it with this like venom

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Speaker 1: and cleverness that just really has staying power. So it's

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Speaker 1: like what we were just talking about, how she really

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Speaker 1: was on the early side of how we understand or

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00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: like the fraud that we now understand Elon Musk's to

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00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 1: be right, like she got there before Kara Swisher got there,

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Speaker 1: And all of these really mean claims and like turns

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Speaker 1: of phrase that we think about when we think about

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk today in twenty twenty five, some of that

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Speaker 1: really did originate with Zalea Banks. So, Mike, have you

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be crass, but have you ever

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Speaker 1: heard the claim that Elon Musk got a botched penis

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Speaker 1: implant surgery?

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Speaker 2: I have heard that claim. I have no idea whether

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Speaker 2: it's true or not.

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Speaker 1: Well, that claim was really buttressed by Banks, she replied

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Speaker 1: to somebody on Twitter who claimed that Musk had a

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Speaker 1: quote botched penis implant, and Azalea Banks seemingly affirmed that.

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Speaker 1: She said, oh, Grimes told me about that too. So

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Speaker 1: first of all, it's like Grimes does. It does sound

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Speaker 1: like Azalia was right if you believe this that like

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Speaker 1: Grimes really was telling her a lot of information about

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Speaker 1: the Elon Musk, like personal information.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's pretty personal.

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Speaker 1: So like her takedowns of Musk or like verbal takedowns

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Speaker 1: of him really like are devastating and searing and they last,

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Speaker 1: Like I see people calling Elon Musk a trash ass

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Speaker 1: beta pig all the time on the internet, all the time,

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00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: every day, and so like, do you know the kind

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00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: of like online meme of calling Elon Musk like nicknames

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00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: like apartheid Clyde?

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Speaker 2: I do? And you know it makes sense because I

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Speaker 2: think that's like his wealth uncontrovertibly comes out of the

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Speaker 2: apartheid system.

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Speaker 1: Right it does. And Azalea Banks was the person who

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Speaker 1: gave him that nickname in January of twenty nineteen, during

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Speaker 1: part of their feud, according to Urban Dictionary, On January fifth,

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen, Azalea Banks posted a story in which she

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Speaker 1: referred to Musk as Apartheid Clyde, a reference to Musk

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00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: growing up in South Africa during the era of apartheid

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Speaker 1: and his father ERL. Musk owning a fifty percent share

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Speaker 1: and an emerald mind in Zambiath. On that day, several

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00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: users on x slash Twitter posted about Banks calling him

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Speaker 1: Apartheid Clyde. So she really, like you know, that's even

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Speaker 1: today in twenty twenty five. That is to become the

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Speaker 1: language of like how just every day Broke's on the

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Speaker 1: internet like me try he digs at elon Musk.

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Speaker 2: It is amazing that he can have such an enormous

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Speaker 2: profile and seemingly like not have a history. Like you

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Speaker 2: really have to look for it to learn about his history,

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Speaker 2: his parent's history, his grandparent's history, And it's there, but

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Speaker 2: you have to look for it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is there. Like I've listened to some like

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Speaker 1: very disturbing podcasts about his father. There is compelling evidence,

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Speaker 1: like and his relationship with his mom is super weird.

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Speaker 1: Like his mom is like gorgeous, she's a model, but

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Speaker 1: she is just like someone who is really trying hard

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Speaker 1: to shield her son from any type of criticism. In

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Speaker 1: this way, that's like well, okay, you don't get to

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Speaker 1: do that when he's like, you know, a special employee

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Speaker 1: of the White House, right, Like people are allowed to

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Speaker 1: criticize your role in shaping our democracy in our life lady.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, his his family situation is pretty dark and

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00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 1: pretty weird and like out there publicly. And so what's

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Speaker 1: interesting to me how for so long he was just

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Speaker 1: this like rich guy who made cars, like even though

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Speaker 1: all that information was out there, like he it really

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Speaker 1: I think it really is. It says something about the

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Speaker 1: ease of myth making in the United States that you

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Speaker 1: could sort of like build this mythos about yourself where

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Speaker 1: you're this you know, genius upstart who knows everything about everything,

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Speaker 1: who you know, succeeds on his own independence, not because

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Speaker 1: of anybody's diamond mind or emerald mind. And that can

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Speaker 1: sort of be accepted until somebody like Azalea Banks comes

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Speaker 1: along and like you know, shatters that shatters that shatters

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Speaker 1: that image like she is with that old Apple commercial

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Speaker 1: of the woman like running up and like throwing a

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Speaker 1: hammer at the glass, Like that is Azalea Banks penetrating

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00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Elon Musk's uh the glass that it is this like

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00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: fictionalized world that he has built for himself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a it's a nice way to describe it

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00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 2: there with that nineteen eighty four ad imagery.

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Speaker 1: I know people are like, what are you talking about? Like,

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Speaker 1: look it up, kids, It was a commercial on TV

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Speaker 1: for Apple computers. Look it up kids.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's bring this back. Let's bring it back. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So where do you want to go next?

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Speaker 1: Bridget So, even though it sounds like they kind of

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00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: smoothed over their feud, today, Azalea Banks is imagining a

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Speaker 1: world without Elon Musk. According to a piece in Dazed,

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Speaker 1: Banks has announced the release of an upcoming track that

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00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: appears to imagine Musk's quote public execution. In a now

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00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 1: deleted Instagram post, she shared the details of one of

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Speaker 1: two songs that were filtered out of her thirty minute

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Speaker 1: release called Young Rapunzel Part Two, set in thirty thirty

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Speaker 1: ninety six Corolla Parentheses Motorman tell us the story of

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Speaker 1: Alon Dust, a wealthy technocrat who devises the perfect scheme

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Speaker 1: to entice poor people into allowing their brains to be

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Speaker 1: used as an interface Coitcidentally, the venturer is called Neuralink,

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Speaker 1: the name of Musk's company that is actually working on

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Speaker 1: mind reading software. In Banks's song Alon Dust's quote neural

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Speaker 1: activity is eventually cut off by the aioverlord played by

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Speaker 1: Azalea Banks herself, rendering him a vegetable and erasing him

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Speaker 1: as a threat to humanity.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so they're cool now, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They sound cool. They sound like no problems, it's all

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Speaker 1: been buried.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, good buds.

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Speaker 1: So first of all, I just find this to be

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Speaker 1: such an interesting moment where my two favorite things, pop

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Speaker 1: culture and tech, kind of intersect. So it's like one

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Speaker 1: of the reasons why I'm so obsessed with this story.

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Speaker 1: But I guess the bottom line is, and why I

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Speaker 1: wanted to share this today was that I think today,

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, most people, definitely people listening to

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Speaker 1: this podcast do not have the popular cultural misconception that

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk is this like stable, efficient, good leader.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: But Elon muss thought it was a good idea to

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Speaker 1: let Azalea Banks his wild ass into his life, into

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Speaker 1: his home, around his partner, around his businesses. And this

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Speaker 1: is the man whose decision making acumen, we are being

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Speaker 1: told is solid and stable enough to be leading our

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Speaker 1: country and I'll just say we are in danger. I'll

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Speaker 1: just leave it there. We are in danger.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my god, Uh, do me a favor. Let's not

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Speaker 2: have her on the show, azil Banks. I'm sure it

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Speaker 2: would be entertaining, but like, are.

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Speaker 1: You out of your mind? The way if she ever

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Speaker 1: wanted to call she has a it would be like

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Speaker 1: she didn't come on the show anytime she wants. I mean,

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Speaker 1: then again, what if she's in my house, like she

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Speaker 1: won't leave and she's live tweeting if.

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Speaker 2: She sees Yeah, it just it seems like playing with fire.

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Speaker 1: On the podcast who Weekly, Bobby Finger once joked that

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Speaker 1: Azalea Banks, an iPhone and a whi if I connection

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Speaker 1: could take down the whole Trump administration. And this is

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Speaker 1: before Elon was in the administration. This was the first

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Speaker 1: time around it. I firmly believe he is right. Got

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Speaker 1: a story about an interesting thing in tech or just

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