WEBVTT - Dope Gangster Rap Conversation 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:02.040 But all right, job. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:08.080 All across the USC Compton, Watts Bay to LA. Come 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.400 on to California day, come out in the valley. We 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:14.680 represent that Keller County. 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Make sure 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.400 you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:57.680 For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael on your 0:00:57.680 --> 0:01:00.520 front screen. Subscribed to Against the Chronicles. Leave a start 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:06.320 rating the comment Well, this is Saturday night, man, January thirteenth. Man, 0:01:06.360 --> 0:01:08.399 can you believe it's twenty twenty four already? 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:10.280 This is how you start your podcast. 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:15.680 Well, this is how we starting tonight, man, This is 0:01:15.720 --> 0:01:18.559 how the fuck we're starting to ship tonight. Just having 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.200 a good time to conversation amongst friends. Some ship we 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:24.640 would probably be talking about on the phone anyway, you know, 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:26.200 might as well put you out to the public, you 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:26.640 know what I mean? 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:29.800 But no, for real, like do your audience really like 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:31.800 when you started like this with the dates and shit? 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.520 They must they must saw. The motherfuckers got it like 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:37.520 over a million downloads, So I would say. 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:40.600 So that just me and your audience got weird tastes. 0:01:41.480 --> 0:01:43.800 Well, that just mean the motherfuckers have excellent taste. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:44.560 Excellent. 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.760 They don't have excellent taste. They condosaurus, you know what 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:49.080 I mean? 0:01:49.400 --> 0:01:52.040 The thing about gangs the Chronicles, Yo, shout out to 0:01:52.040 --> 0:01:55.880 the Games of Chronicles audience. But y'all like for layming yon, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:58.720 but like this is the rib bods. Like if you 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:02.480 had no ceilings, just the rip by, just that fatty side, y'all. 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:05.680 Ship is all just the meat, you know what I mean. 0:02:05.680 --> 0:02:07.720 You gotta wrap bacon and rider to get some flavor. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.680 But like no ceilings is all rare by bone in 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:15.639 tomahawk with the fatty part, so you get the flavor. 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:21.280 Yeah, ours man, like a well aged a well aged 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:25.679 mother for Layman, y'all, wag you for labman, young you 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:28.200 know what I'm saying, sponsors and ship because y'all just 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.919 be over here playing the safe. Yeah, we'd like to 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.680 play in safe man. I actually like getting chicks so 0:02:34.960 --> 0:02:39.400 kill and I talk shit. I got no ceilings to 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.480 talk all the ship. I want to really talk. I 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:45.360 really want to say as you go over those ceilings 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:49.080 and ruined my you and all my sponsorships, well, yeah 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.120 for sure man. You know especially addition, man, a gangster 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:55.919 rap chronicles for night Man with my homeboy glasses alone. 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.320 The funny boy, is this ship is gonn be a 0:03:00.360 --> 0:03:03.280 regular conversation. Like I'm not letting you do none of 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:07.200 that professional Norman Steel shit you be doing with all 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:07.720 your guests. 0:03:07.800 --> 0:03:10.640 This ship right here is just gonna be have it now. 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:13.960 I'm not gonna go no ceilings have it because we 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:16.240 need the sponsors over here. 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.400 Yeah for sure, man, somebody one of these shows gotta 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.120 make some money. Man, We got bills to pay it. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:23.120 You know what I'm saying, you get a piece of 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:25.080 this pay shake too, so shit, you should wants to 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:25.360 have it. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:28.480 I ain't hating, I'm just saying we're gonna play it 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:32.280 above board on against the chronicles. 0:03:31.639 --> 0:03:36.560 We was having a conversation earlier off air man as 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:38.880 it pertains to DJ Quick and Doctor Dre. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.240 I'm not having that conversation that conversation board. I just 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:43.200 had that conversation. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.080 But you know what though, and it's not gonna be 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:51.120 a long drawn out thing. DJ Quick is necessary to 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:52.600 the Doctor Drake ecosystem. 0:03:53.480 --> 0:03:58.000 Yeah, but listen, I'm gonna tell you why this is 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.520 a weird conversation to have publicly, because it would require 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:05.120 people to have some experience in music, like if you 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:08.160 asked the average person, like I got into this conversation 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:11.160 multiple times where I tried to explain to people like 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:16.640 Rick James was influential to Prince and Michael Jackson, right, 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:20.080 And the reason most people don't know that is because 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.560 they don't realize Prince and Rick James came out the 0:04:22.600 --> 0:04:26.960 same year with they project, and Rick James had it 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.000 hit first, right, which is Mary James. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:29.960 And at that. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.600 Time, Prince was really like this really brilliant musician who 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.279 you could tell was classically trained, just this bad motherfucker, 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.880 but he had like this weird kind of pop feel. 0:04:40.520 --> 0:04:43.480 And Rick came out, you know that up State New. 0:04:43.440 --> 0:04:46.000 York nigga was just the nigga, you know what I mean, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:49.479 and his shit took off, you know what I mean. 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.560 So hints fast forward, you have Prince opening up for 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.599 Rick James. You know, most people think Prince started with 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:57.120 Purple Rain, and that's just not true. 0:04:57.160 --> 0:04:57.640 It's four or. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.760 Five albums in, like most people think Michael Jackson started 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:03.000 it off the Wall. That's four or five albums in 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:07.880 as a solo artist, right, So it's a weird conversation 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.400 to have. I remember having that conversation that somebody was 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.560 talking about the keyboard that Rick James stole from Prince, 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:16.520 but then he made Super Free and Prince didn't have 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:18.040 no Super Freak in No. 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:22.240 Nineteen eighty two eighty three. They have a cut like that. 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.360 So I think it's hard for people to look at 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:29.440 it like that because they'll look at it Rick James 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:32.080 like they'll look at Quick and they won't get the 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:32.919 brilliance of it. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.120 I mean, people look at Rick James like. 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:39.520 A almost like cause like a joke because of the 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:41.760 Day Chapelle show. You know, shout out to Day because 0:05:41.760 --> 0:05:44.520 it ain't Dave Fault, but that joke was so well, 0:05:44.600 --> 0:05:46.119 you know, Cocaine's the hell of a drug. 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:47.960 That people don't think. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:49.960 Rick was as dope because they like, well, he wasn't 0:05:49.960 --> 0:05:52.320 as big as prince in Michael Jackson. They don't realize 0:05:52.440 --> 0:05:57.200 MTV wouldn't play his videos at a time, man, MTV 0:05:57.400 --> 0:06:00.000 was breaking black artists to the whole world. 0:06:00.560 --> 0:06:03.520 I would tell you this first hand as an old head, 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:07.800 Rick James was almost like the first R and B rapper. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.080 He had like a rapper statue for almost like you 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:15.480 know how gangster rapper has a certain stature. Everybody played 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:21.440 Rick James in the hood Doog. Those were phenomenal records 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.760 that were very huge in the neighborhood that everybody's house 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.279 you went to they had that on they and you 0:06:27.360 --> 0:06:30.400 know we were spinning wax back then. Everybody would play 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:34.479 those records. Man, everybody would play those records, you know. 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:38.839 So so to have that conversation picking up from where 0:06:38.880 --> 0:06:41.920 you at, to have that conversation is hard because you 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:44.840 asking a bunch of people who just consume music. They 0:06:44.839 --> 0:06:49.720 don't know anything about music to appreciate quick you know, 0:06:50.120 --> 0:06:54.320 contribution to West Coast it even a doctor dre like that. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:58.640 That would be like understanding Rick James's contribution to Michael 0:06:58.720 --> 0:07:02.440 Jackson and Quincy Jones, Like, I had this conversation earlier too, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.200 before I talked to you, and I was saying, like, 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:09.960 the difference between DJ Quicks Tonight and Doctor Dre's G Thang. 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:10.920 Is the music video. 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.680 Hip Hop is the first genre that led with the 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:19.760 culture before the music, and most people don't trip off that. 0:07:20.200 --> 0:07:21.600 They think it's just music. 0:07:21.640 --> 0:07:24.880 But when Quick did the video for you know, Tonight, 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:26.680 because Tonight was a huge song. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.240 When I was little, it was big. But the video is. 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:33.680 Quick rapping in like a like a field of purple 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:37.520 flowers with a refrigerator, and it's kind of hieroglyphic, kind 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:41.400 of glitchy video. When G Thang is literally just la 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:47.240 and all its glory, you know, the EESA highlights, lo riding, you. 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:52.240 Know, parties for Q's beer. 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.480 You know, so it was a hood party. 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.000 And it goes back to the same thing with Michael 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:04.600 Jackson and Rick James and Prince The ability to showcase 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:08.800 his abilities on MTV changed the career of Michael Jackson, 0:08:08.800 --> 0:08:09.720 it changed. 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:14.440 The career of Prince Hell. Most people don't know that 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:16.960 MTV financed the Thriller video. 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:20.600 Yeah, you know what I tell you, man. The difference 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:25.520 is with DJ Quick and Doctor Dre. I would say this, 0:08:25.600 --> 0:08:31.440 I would say Should Knight Should Knight was very influential 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:36.280 man and giving Dre's direction, you know Old I'm gonna 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:41.439 take that back. Easy Sure initially, you know easy he 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.040 initially he started, and I think Should kind of built 0:08:45.080 --> 0:08:47.080 the pun with Easy Saw, you know, because they came 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.240 from a commonplace, so to speak, and they gave him 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:53.920 that because Doctor Dray don't like gangster rat, you know, 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:56.560 you know, one of the dudes that's one of the greatest, 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.839 the most influential people in the genre, don't really care 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.319 for against the rap like that's fair. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.400 I mean, I guess it's some degree. 0:09:06.040 --> 0:09:08.560 I would definitely say that if it was up to Dre, 0:09:09.360 --> 0:09:12.480 he would have probably been producing nas and you know 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:14.640 some of those other type of rappers, you know what 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.520 I mean. I think he's always wanted in the East 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:18.200 Coast MC. 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:21.920 But I mean, as somebody who was born in the 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:24.520 early sixties, you know what I mean, he grew up 0:09:24.559 --> 0:09:27.520 to East Coast hip hop, so that makes sense. 0:09:27.600 --> 0:09:28.760 I mean, you. 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.959 Think about the sn some of the signings he's ad, 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:36.560 you know, Rod Kim all the you know, the Trioca 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.679 people from the East coast, I forget who was all 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:43.080 in the group, so forgetting me Cormega Nis and you know, 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:46.040 the firm, the whole firm thing, right. I think he's 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:50.200 always wanted something like that to work. But his production 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:54.440 is very much rooted than Funk. Well. 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:58.200 I mean initially it was like dope breaks, right, it 0:09:58.240 --> 0:09:59.079 was dope breaks. 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.160 But the death row time, you know, you could hear 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:03.359 the Funk get loose. 0:10:04.640 --> 0:10:06.600 And a lot of his ideas, the chronic you can 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:08.920 see he kind of stuck his foot in the water. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:14.160 But I mean, I like to say he don't listen. 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:18.319 Somewhere along the line, things worked out for doctor dre 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:22.400 I mean, minus his years of studying. You know, he's 0:10:22.440 --> 0:10:25.000 even before you know, his single comes out, g thing 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.840 comes out. You know, he's ten years deep in making records. 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.600 I think Doctor here is a phenomenal I'm gonna tell 0:10:30.600 --> 0:10:32.360 you what, Doctor Drake got a thumb up on a 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:35.720 lot of people that too. What people don't understand is 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.320 that Interscope was a label that was ran by a 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:42.240 producer and an engineer. Jimmy Ivien is probably one of 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.800 the greatest engineers of all time. I think people don't, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:47.320 you know, the average common person don't know that Jimmy 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:48.440 Ivien was engineer. 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.160 Well, he was greatest, one of the greatest. 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:53.240 He was one of the greatest, dude, he was Bruce S. 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:54.200 Brainstein's engineer. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:57.200 I just wouldn't think of that as one of the 0:10:57.240 --> 0:11:00.240 best mixed albums. No disrespect to Bruce Brainstein's music. 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:03.040 Man, Bruce. You know, that's a whole different genre of music. 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.480 So that's a whole different conversation. But Jimmy knows sonics. 0:11:06.320 --> 0:11:09.640 Jim Jimmy understands Jimmy Jimmy bad as motherfucker, and. 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.400 Jimmy also understood the importance of having producer led camps. 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:17.319 He noticed that he recognizes the importance of the producer. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.959 That's why if you notice that interscope for a long 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.760 time when they were in they hate they when they 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.680 had their successful run. He had gave all of these 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.520 producers these imprints and let them, you know, kind of 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.200 do their thing. He gave Timberland, templand had beat Club, 0:11:31.640 --> 0:11:35.920 Doctor Dra had after mathun Older Don had his thing 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.880 over there. So he was very much in the given 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:41.959 producers because he understood you have to have a conductor. 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.240 I mean, especially hip hop. You know, starts with the DJ, 0:11:48.360 --> 0:11:50.880 the producers, so that makes sense. But even all the 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.920 greatest musical labels, you know, Motown is you know, it 0:11:54.920 --> 0:11:57.920 ain't just Buriers, Smokey Robinson, Smokey Robinson and. 0:11:59.000 --> 0:12:00.199 The Funk Brothers. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.080 It's that whole. 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:03.160 Backing band that they was writing and making the records with. 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:06.000 You know what, that's the court, the chef, the cook 0:12:06.080 --> 0:12:10.200 is every dying Tenny restaurant that the actual recipe is important. 0:12:10.920 --> 0:12:13.720 Yeah, Shug didn't make a record, dude, But I think 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:16.439 Sugar understood the importance of the street aesthetics. 0:12:16.960 --> 0:12:19.439 Well, I think Sugar was really a marketing genius to 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:20.600 his credit. 0:12:20.720 --> 0:12:23.480 Oh yeah, he was, you know for him to kind 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:26.400 of take because I remember Snoop rapping before he became 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:30.640 you know this worldwide Mogo, you know this worldwide just 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:34.600 you know, major entertainer, probably the most the most popular 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.080 brand in rap music. 0:12:35.920 --> 0:12:38.199 You know, not you can say the greatest hip hop 0:12:38.240 --> 0:12:38.679 parties ever. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.640 It's okay, you know, the greatest hip hop you know, 0:12:40.640 --> 0:12:44.680 the greatest hip hop artist every right outside of Too Short, 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.640 But that's the whole nother conversation. But you know, Snoop's 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:52.320 lung Chevy and everything all goes back to pointers he 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.200 took from Sugar to Night. You know what I'm saying. 0:12:54.360 --> 0:12:56.800 I think I think it's a combination of Doctor Dre's 0:12:56.880 --> 0:13:01.480 music and should nice marketing, right, sure, I mean, I 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:05.040 mean I remember for sure, I remember Stories d seeing 0:13:05.080 --> 0:13:07.200 them talking about you know, it was supposed to be 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:11.840 death Roll like Death Jam, and Sugar understood what it 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:14.880 needed to be called Death Row right as far as 0:13:15.120 --> 0:13:18.360 the whole prison aesthetics. I mean, Sugar was smart changing 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:23.680 Snoop's name to Snoop Doggie Dog right, and Sugar understood 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.800 that you needed to bring the streets. You know, It's 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:30.720 crazy because I had a really deep thought that Boys 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.320 in the Hood was instrumental in what Death Row was 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.479 about to do from a branding perspective. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.800 Like once they saw the success of. 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.320 Boys in the Hood being this kind of inner city movie, 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:46.839 but it showcased certain parts, they realized at that point 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.880 they had to really showcase the culture because before that 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.440 you didn't see No Riders in music video. 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.720 They wasn't the centerpiece. But after the movie Boys in. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:59.520 The Hood and g Thing came out and they had 0:13:59.520 --> 0:14:03.119 all them low and you would just see Los Angeles 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.280 and all his glory, you know, the greatest points of it. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:08.520 So I think that was a separation between Quick and 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:10.880 Dre at that time. I think the records were just 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:13.960 as good. I think Tonight is just as great of 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.320 a record as G Thing. I think Born and Raised 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:22.200 is just as great of a record as uh, you know, Dred. 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.600 I think he made the right records. But I think 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:25.640 what Dre. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:28.080 And them did really well versus what Quick in them 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:33.240 did is Drake captured the essence of the culture visually. 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:35.000 When you think about DJ. 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.280 Quick too, remember he directed the video for G Thing. 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:41.280 Yeah, you got to think about it like this too. 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:44.640 Man one of the Quick's biggest records man out here 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:47.119 in the West coast. Man, you know, outside of his classics, 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:50.560 Man was a Tony Tony Tony record. Right, Let's get 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:53.400 down record, Right, that was a phenomenal record, And I 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:58.400 think that that showcase quicks range man Quick also, man 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.960 had a lot to do with fifty cents record in 0:15:01.000 --> 0:15:05.200 the club then the club record. Damn if I can't 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.200 do it record. You know, he's not mixing in there, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.920 but he did put his hands on those records. And 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.280 me be being in the studio, you know, me being 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.360 in the studio real quick. I could hear certain things 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:18.360 on the records, like he kind of got this. You know. 0:15:18.440 --> 0:15:24.400 He don't quantize his snares, just certain little things on 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.720 those records that make those records special that the average 0:15:27.760 --> 0:15:30.640 person may not pay attention to. But that's just the 0:15:30.680 --> 0:15:33.560 stuff that makes him great. Man. He is very, very 0:15:33.600 --> 0:15:37.360 meticulous at certain things. Man, like his snares he actually 0:15:37.360 --> 0:15:40.560 you know to where it'll be sound and fine. But 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:42.680 just the way he got a certain swing to him, 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.720 the way he coached the vocals in there. It's a man. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:48.240 You get a lot going in the studio walk quick Man. 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:53.040 Style, you know, a lot of mixing, A lot of 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:56.400 producing is style. No, mixing is very much a part 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.840 of producing, even though it's not credited that way. But 0:15:59.640 --> 0:16:04.680 it's all about style. Like Dre and Quick style is different. 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.520 But obviously when they come together, they meet in the 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:08.280 middle somewhere. 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:12.120 Man, that's my thing. Man, I'm gonna good days man 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.560 on games to rac chronicles this year. Man, We're gonna 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:17.240 make that happen, man, because he has to come out 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.480 and speak to us. Man, that dude is just he's 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:23.000 a brilliant dude. And I think a lot of times 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:26.120 him not getting the props he necessarily deserves kind of 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:30.120 his fault to a certain extent, to a certain degree, 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:33.080 it's his fault because to me, these dudes man out 0:16:33.080 --> 0:16:36.800 here just don't produce enough records. I remember you had one. 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:39.400 You had a buzz at one time, gee, when you 0:16:39.520 --> 0:16:42.280 was a rookie in the game that was comfortable to 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:43.480 the buzz the game had. 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.120 I wouldn't go that far, but it was popping. 0:16:46.760 --> 0:16:48.640 No, you know, you was popping dog. I think the 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:50.600 only thing that I think what would have took you 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:53.200 to the next level man, was probably fucking with and 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:56.160 Dre or something like that, especially being somebody from out here. Right. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.840 Oh, man, I've had this conversation. I'm glad you brought 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:00.200 it up. It made me want to talk talk to 0:17:00.240 --> 0:17:02.880 you about it. I think that's what happened to the 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:06.760 West Coast, you know, like remove all the rappers. Let's 0:17:06.840 --> 0:17:11.320 just go with the foundation of records, right, what records 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.840 or even in hip hop? Right, the producer, you know, 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:20.919 slash DJ, keeps and continues producing artists. Right, so you know, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.760 let's start at the beginning, right, you got DJ Unknown 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:28.440 doing nice team. DJ Unknown gave you compters most wanted. 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.639 Doctor Dre right gave you world class record. 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:39.639 Click. Doctor Dre gave you NWA and Ez DJ Quick 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:44.080 produced himself. DJ Quick gave you Penthouse players. 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:44.320 Click. 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:45.400 You know what I'm saying. 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:49.600 So each generation is supposed to be scored by the producers, 0:17:49.640 --> 0:17:52.640 and what happened in my generation, in my class MC's 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:58.439 the producers wasn't producing for us. You know, experience, you know, 0:17:58.640 --> 0:17:59.880 wasn't producing for. 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:03.000 Us because you didn't get the get you didn't get. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.960 And what's crazy is cool as you on Warren is 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.439 you never got a Warring g record. You got a 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:11.720 battle Cat record. You know what I mean? You got 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.200 you got a battle Cat record. But I even think 0:18:15.240 --> 0:18:17.800 still you could have done more with him. And it's 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.800 not for lack of trying. Bro. Them dudes just don't. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.520 They don't do the work. It's almost like they sit 0:18:23.600 --> 0:18:25.480 around man and they want to pick and choose what 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:27.480 they do. Them dudes is lazy. That's why they don't 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:29.680 get the props they supposed to get. Man, And then 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:31.400 they want to say people not fucking with them. 0:18:31.880 --> 0:18:33.080 I don't know if it's lazy. 0:18:33.240 --> 0:18:35.600 I won't say that because they do the work right, 0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:37.320 even Battle, Cat Warren. 0:18:38.280 --> 0:18:40.920 Oh yeah, and those are great people. And this ain't no. 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:45.679 Snap, No, I'm saying they make beats every day. Like 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:48.879 I talk to Warren kind of often. 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:49.159 You know. 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:51.280 I probably talked to war once or twice three times 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:53.080 a month, you know, I mean, like I'll check in 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:57.080 with Eman. But they he make beats all the fucking time. 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.320 It's just getting him to take his fucking hand off 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:04.400 the fucking beats, like let us have them like them 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:08.000 and Cat, if they died them, niggas is gonna die 0:19:08.040 --> 0:19:09.600 with four thousand beats in the vault. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:11.720 I'm not exaggerating. 0:19:12.320 --> 0:19:18.240 Cat has hundreds of beats that just are shitting around. 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:20.560 Hundreds of beats. 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:23.120 There's probably some of his most incredible shit that ain't 0:19:23.119 --> 0:19:28.720 never been released. I'm gonna tell you the illest thing 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:32.560 I've ever seen. Man quick play this one beat one 0:19:32.640 --> 0:19:35.560 day do they had likes and so, and it was 0:19:35.600 --> 0:19:38.840 the first time. Man, this was like before Kanye came 0:19:38.880 --> 0:19:43.159 out with Jesus Walks. Man he had like these. It 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:45.520 was a marching thing in the background with a heavy 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:48.359 aid the way up under right, and it was the 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.960 craziest beat I ever heard. Man. He erased that motherfucker 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.160 dog because he couldn't get the snare on there right. Man. 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:56.880 The tripped me the fuck out. I was like, why 0:19:56.880 --> 0:19:59.120 don't you put this shit out? Man? This shit would sound. 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:02.040 Crazy, But you know what, I know what that feels like. 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:04.200 Like I didn't know what that felt like probably four 0:20:04.280 --> 0:20:06.400 years ago, but I know what that feels like now, man. 0:20:06.440 --> 0:20:10.119 And like I did a record with Problem Problem produced 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:13.879 with me and Mossburg going back and forth, and I 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:15.760 could just never see how to finish the record, so 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:17.800 I lost interest. Like, don't get me wrong, if you 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:20.800 hear the rapping parts of it, me and Mossburg going 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.080 back and forth is incredible, but the cores being satisfied 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.359 with the coors figuring out how to finish the record. 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.399 I never, you know, was interested another finishing the record. 0:20:30.440 --> 0:20:31.840 So I just let him have the record and he 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.560 put it on Comport Story Part two and he did 0:20:34.600 --> 0:20:36.119 a hook and push sugar Free you need you know, 0:20:36.160 --> 0:20:38.320 he changed the dynamics of the record, which was cool 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:41.880 to me. But when you get into this shit, man, 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:50.000