1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the Fantasy Pros channel. I'm Ryan, 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: warmly joined by Andrew Erickson and Jake Seeley from the Athletic. 3 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: We are talking some wide receivers that the experts are avoiding. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: We are giving you a couple of names each to 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: not draft these overvalued wide receivers. 6 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: It's still early May. 7 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: Right, this stuff has time to change. But as we 8 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: see it right now, the way the rankings and the 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: early ADP and all that stuff looks like these are 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: the names that we are avoiding. A Reminder for anybody 11 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: who wants to check out those early rankings, our twenty 12 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,479 Speaker 1: twenty six consensus rankings and tiers can be found at 13 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: fantasypros dot com. Slash Rankings will be kind of looking 14 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: at this through the prism of like half PPR rankings 15 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 1: as kind of the standard, but of course you can 16 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 1: navigate PPR standard all that good stuff. We'll go ahead 17 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 1: and dive right in here. Jake, who is the first 18 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: receiver that you are avoiding? 19 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 3: Well, it would make it clear it is avoiding at 20 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: cost because the name I'm about to say is there. 21 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 3: We're just going to turn off the video and be 22 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: like Jake's umm I'm not listening to this guy. I mean, 23 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: that's pretty much a common take anyway. But what it 24 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 3: comes down to at cost, and we were asked to 25 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 3: pick guys that are inside the top twelve and then 26 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 3: within the top thirty six. So for mine, I'm going 27 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 3: with Milak Neighbors at cost. It's just because of the 28 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 3: names in front of Malik Neighbors that I would put 29 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 3: in front of him. Right now, I think that he's 30 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 3: what at nine eight or nine wide receiver for the 31 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 3: adp R Experts census ranks, I would go lower. I 32 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 3: have him at twelve, Like it's not crazy, but it's 33 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: three spots. It's enough to say, like in this range, 34 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: to have somebody inside the top twelve that's three spots 35 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: off from ECR is pretty significant. And it just comes, 36 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: like I said, it just comes down to I would 37 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 3: take Nego Collins, I would take Chris Olave, I would 38 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 3: take Rashi, Rice, George Pick and Strake London and then well, 39 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 3: obviously we're inside the top six of Justin Jefferson, but 40 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 3: it's more about those bottom names. It just comes down 41 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 3: to what is Malik Neighbors for week one, Like there's 42 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 3: a big question of how healthy he was or how 43 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 3: healthy he will be because the injury and the surgery 44 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 3: was a little bit later. The surgery part specifically was 45 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: a little bit later than people expected. It took a 46 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 3: little bit more time. So week ones in question whether 47 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 3: or not he's even on the field, let alone one 48 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 3: hundred percent. So you have to play September as in 49 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 3: a previous Giant Saquon Barkley way back in the day, 50 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 3: where it took him all of September to get back 51 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 3: to one hundred percent. Unfortunately, hopefully he doesn't go down 52 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: that road because then immediately after that, when Barkley was 53 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 3: one hundred percent, he blew his ankle against the Cowboys. 54 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 3: But it did take September to get there, And that's 55 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 3: just my only concern, on. 56 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Top of the fact that, like like I said, that's 57 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 2: my only concern. 58 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 3: But let's also acknowledge there's a little bit of risk 59 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: here with the change of Harball. We've seen his style 60 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: before with the Ravens and that, yeah, one wide receiver 61 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 3: can be valuable, but is there a second he's bringing in? 62 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: Likely his guy they paid through the nose really to 63 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: go get that pick. Now, just forget his name, Brandon 64 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 3: Ford Malkie Fields and then they brought on darlel Lo Mooney. 65 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,959 Speaker 3: I'm not saying like any of those are a significant 66 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 3: threat to healthy Mileik neighbors, but Myleik neighbors with these concerns, 67 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: and just again, I'm just taking the names I know 68 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,760 Speaker 3: should be producing from day one versus one I might 69 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 3: have to wait a few weeks. 70 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: For when ye you're talking about this in terms of 71 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: like where he is amongst the receivers obviously like wide 72 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: receiver and an ECR and some of the names that 73 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: you like better, are you also considering other positions kind 74 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: of in this Ranger Draft seventeenth overall, some of the 75 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: names around him, Trey McBride at tight Edd Chase Brown, 76 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: Saqua and O'maron Hampton, Ashton Jenk's a couple spyheads, you 77 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 1: like all those guys that have better. 78 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 2: Derek Henry Kiro and Williams. Yes, yes, yeah, Like I 79 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:18,920 Speaker 2: have him. 80 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: In the low twenties. Overall, again, it's just names that 81 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 3: are in front of him. So you have the wide receivers, 82 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: that's eleven wide receivers, and then you have a big 83 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 3: chunk of running backs that come into play, including McBride 84 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: and Bowers. So yeah, by the time you get to 85 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 3: it once you include Henry and Williams, which gets me 86 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: down to my like RB twelve. Now he's running around 87 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 3: overall twenty seven to twenty eight, So it looks like 88 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 3: I hate the guy. But it just comes down to 89 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,119 Speaker 3: when you have we're nitpicking the first two almost three rounds, 90 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna take the one that's the riskiest and 91 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: push them down. 92 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 4: A little bit. 93 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, ericson what do you think about Neighbors? 94 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 4: I think that his price is going to go down 95 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 4: because he's going to be on the PUP and like, 96 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 4: once you get that flag of medical alert on whatever 97 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 4: draft platform you're looking at, he's just actually going to 98 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 4: go down in the ranking. So I think that right now, 99 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 4: if you're drafting in best Ball formats, I don't think 100 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 4: it makes a lot of sense to draft some like 101 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 4: Milik Neighbors because he's going. 102 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 3: To be worse twenty eight. Wouldn't you say twenty is 103 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 3: too high? Andrew if he does end up on the pup. 104 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 3: To answer to ask a question, which is warmstob but 105 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: it's ADG eight. 106 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 5: That means he's going round. 107 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Earl round three. 108 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 3: But I'd put him down further if you're throwing that 109 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 3: out there, if that actually happens. 110 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's going to happen, right If 111 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 4: he's going to miss a couple of weeks, why throw 112 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 4: him out there anyway? Harbaugh is the brand new head coach, 113 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 4: and I think that he's playing a long term game 114 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 4: with the New York Giants. They don't need to win 115 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty six, and what is it good does 116 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 4: it do for them to throw Molik Neighbors out there 117 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 4: if he's not one hundred percent? And to your point, 118 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 4: most of the reports have been more pessimistic than optimistic, 119 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 4: and this is this is clear cut optimistic. Everyone is 120 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 4: in the best shape, but life season right now here 121 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,919 Speaker 4: in May, and when you're not, it's, oh, this is 122 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 4: a red flag that we really need to pay attention to. 123 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: So I agree with you that he's just a really 124 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 4: hard guy to rank. I have him in actually in 125 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 4: my tiers, he's like in his own tier, and it's like, 126 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 4: what's the latest updaten in Lake Neighbors because right now 127 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: you just can't really draft him a lot. 128 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 5: Of confidence because I just think the price is going 129 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 5: to go down. 130 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: You took the words out of my mouth there, Ericson 131 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:25,239 Speaker 1: that this type of year, all you get are optimistic updates. 132 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: So when you're getting pessimistic updates on someone, that's like 133 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: an even bigger red flag to me than it normally 134 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: would be just on face value, because this is the 135 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: time of year where that usually doesn't happen. So I 136 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: think that's a good point by you. Let's go to 137 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 1: your first over valued receiver. 138 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: Ericson, I'm going with wide receiver for the lost Inus 139 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: Rams Davante Adams. So he's priced right now in the 140 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: mid wide receiver two range, and I think. 141 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 5: That is it's not too too high. 142 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 4: But there are other players, specifically a guy going right 143 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 4: after him that I would take one hundred times out 144 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: of one hundred times, say Flowers. I want to have 145 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: a player that is entering, I think closer to their 146 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 4: prime years. Flowers has had gotten better three straight seasons, 147 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 4: and I look at Devanta Adams and everything to me 148 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 4: when I look at his specific profile screams a player 149 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: that is not going to be able to replicate what 150 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 4: he did a year ago, very touchdown heavy production. He 151 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 4: scored fifteen touchdowns on a career low catch rate at 152 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: fifty three percent. Matthew Stafford through for a career high 153 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 4: passing touchdown rate. What is the number one thing we 154 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: look for in terms of will this pocket passing quarterback 155 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 4: regress in the following season, he looked right at their 156 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 4: Their passing touchdown rate seven point seven percent was a 157 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 4: career high for Stafford. So if he's throwing less touchdowns 158 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 4: and no longer force feeding touchdowns to Devonte Adams specifically, 159 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 4: this was an MVP narrative for Matthew Stafford. Sean McVay 160 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 4: was incentivized to let's just throw the ball in the 161 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 4: red zone. Yes, it's working, but we want to make 162 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: sure our guy gets the MVP. Let's force feed Devanta 163 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 4: Adams no matter what. So career lowing yards after the 164 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 4: catch per reception as well, so he's not generating as 165 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 4: much yardage on his own. It's strictly on where's he 166 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 4: running the route. Again, I still think that he can 167 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: play at a high level, but to the extent of 168 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: will he able to replicate last year's production, especially with 169 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 4: it being so touchdown heavy. Thirty three years old, he 170 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: missed time to do some lower body injuries in twenty 171 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: twenty five, So for me, I think that I just 172 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 4: don't see a player that is going to arise like 173 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 4: he did last year. I think that it's more likely 174 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 4: he's going to finish worse significantly than he was compared 175 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 4: to last season. And it's interesting because if you even 176 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 4: look at some of the projections that are out there, 177 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 4: I know I look at Mike Clay's a lot of times. 178 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: You know, he released his He has Demant Adams tied 179 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 4: for leading the NFL in touchdowns and he still only 180 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: finishes at wide receiver seventeen. So it seems like the 181 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 4: best case scenario this is where he's probably going to finish, 182 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 4: Whereas I'm trying to look at some of the red 183 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 4: flags based on the efficiency falling off in his age, 184 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 4: and maybe a player that's going to finish closer is 185 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 4: being drafted closer to his ceiling than his floor. So 186 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 4: that's why I think that Adams will be a disappointment 187 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 4: twenty twenty six. 188 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, Jake, I think the thing with Adams for me 189 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 1: is that it's less about the player and more about 190 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: some of the names around him. Like Ericson has historically 191 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: been higher on Zay Flowers than you and I have, 192 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: but like lad mccacky's in this range, and DeVante Smith, 193 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: obviously with AJ Brown likely gone, is in this range. 194 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is two spots ahead of him, and the 195 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 1: receiver rankings Ackay Buka even a few spots lower. If 196 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: you believe that, you know the second half of last 197 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: year was more injury driven. There's just a lot of 198 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: names in this tier that are exciting, and to Erickson's point, 199 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: feel like they're more on the rise than on the decline. 200 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fair, but I actually think he's properly valued. 201 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: So I'm higher than Ericson is, mostly because if you 202 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: look after week thirteen, he had three more touchdowns than 203 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: anybody else at wide receiver. Hey, he had more receiving 204 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 3: touchdowns anybody else, and then after week fourteen he did too. 205 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 3: After week fifteen he did too. After sixteen, he did too. 206 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: After week seven. Oh, by the way, he didn't play 207 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 3: those weeks because he had so many touchdowns before he 208 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: got hurt. So I know what Andrew's saying, but I 209 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 3: think I look at it more of this is that 210 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 3: similar to Tyrel Lockett, with Russell Wilson and some other 211 00:08:58,240 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 3: players we've seen in the past, and when it just 212 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 3: comes down to being where he needs to be. Mike 213 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 3: Evans for the longest time and recently with Baker Mayfield. 214 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: Is there certain players that do certain things that the 215 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 3: quarterback looks specifically for, and I don't think that's going 216 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 3: to change with Stafford and Adams. Whether he throws five 217 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 3: or six fewer touchdowns, I don't think it would be 218 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 3: a huge impact to Adams. 219 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 2: I think it's to the rest. 220 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 3: I think expecting them to catch that many touchdowns over 221 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: the course of seventeen games, I would be okay with 222 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: the fourteen regular season games. Fourteen touchdowns and regular season games. 223 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,959 Speaker 3: I know he had the fifteenth after that, but I 224 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 3: think the fourteen would be a playing seventeen games, I 225 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: would be okay with that. It just comes down to 226 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: the other parts that Andrew mentioned is you know whether 227 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 3: he stays healthy the other wide receivers in this range, 228 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 3: And that's where my bigger takeaway is. It's not so 229 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: much the fact that I disagree heavily with Andrew on this. 230 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm okay with Adams. I've actually ended up with a 231 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: lot of Adams so far in early drafts because if 232 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 3: in this tier, he can be your last one of 233 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: the tier and still get him later on because everybody's 234 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 3: drafting of Flowers and like, and I have no problem 235 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: with that. So if you want to put him in 236 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: this conversation, but understand that he's not going to go 237 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: here like that, that's the biggest thing is he's not 238 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: going to go in that range of those names, at 239 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 3: least what I've seen so far. I don't think the 240 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: drafts are on the same page as the ranking. If 241 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 3: that makes that clear is the drafts are clearly pushing 242 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 3: him down to Andrew's point, and I think that's why 243 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 3: he's actually kind of a value when you actually see 244 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: where he goes in the drafts. 245 00:10:26,080 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: Quick reminder for everybody to join our Fantasy Pros discord 246 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: community chat with other fans to get access to exclusive 247 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: amas that wind up on our podcast feed. Here's our 248 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: current schedule. Myself in fits at five eastern on the 249 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: first Tuesday of every month, Bogman in fits at five 250 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: eastern on the third Tuesday of every month. Come get 251 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: your questions answered and be on the show at fantasypros 252 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: dot Com slash chat. All right, one more receiver from 253 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: each of you, j who are you not drafting at cost? 254 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: This one? 255 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 3: Pains me so much. That's what the chuckle is for. 256 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 3: We're not in the wide screen, so you cannot see 257 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: why it pains. I have a signed football of this 258 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 3: player next to me, and it pains me so much 259 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: to say this because I was on. 260 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: Him in college. 261 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: I was on Everybody loved the fact that I was 262 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: on him for his rookie season, and now kind of 263 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 3: completely out. It's Brian Thomas, and it really just comes 264 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 3: down to the makeup of this team. Everybody, including myself, 265 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:21,200 Speaker 3: were like, hey, Mac Jones, Brian Thomas. At least Trevor 266 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: Lawrence can do the same. No, he can't because he 267 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 3: doesn't care about Brian Thomas. And that's the issue is 268 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 3: once they got Jacoby Myers and a healthy Parker Washington, which. 269 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 2: By the way, this isn't like blip. 270 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 3: Parker Washington age twenty nine season, like this is still 271 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: a very young career and people that had some high 272 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 3: expectations as a sleeper value for. 273 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: What exactly he's doing. He's not going to be a. 274 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 3: Top twenty wide receiver playing the outside. He's doing what 275 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: he's doing and what he does. To go back to 276 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 3: my argument about Adams with Stafford is Parker Washington gets 277 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 3: opened quick, he gets open. 278 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 2: Over the middle of the field. 279 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: And where does Trevor Lawrence look first? And often quick 280 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: and over the middle of the field, and Parker Washington's open. 281 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: That's why getting the targets. That's why he's getting targets, 282 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: and that's why he's getting targets. And then when he's 283 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 3: not a lot of times his quick second read is 284 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers. While they made this shift once they got 285 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 3: Myers in Parker Washington and started sending Brian Thomas downfield 286 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 3: twenty yards every single play. And that's the biggest thing, 287 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 3: as we know, whether you're talking in NFL or fantasy, 288 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: when you start running twenty yards downfield for your A dot, 289 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 3: your reception rate is going to drop. It inherently drops, 290 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 3: no matter how good of a contested catcher you are. 291 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 3: It drops because of the quarterback placement, the defenders and all. 292 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: That type of stuff. 293 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: And you saw it is that there was almost a 294 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 3: fifty percent jump once all three of them were playing 295 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: healthy together, Brian Thomas's A dot and his receptions declined 296 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: to almost fifty percent. Like that's how far they fell. 297 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 3: He was only catching almost fifty percent of his passes. 298 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 3: So this version, Jaguars version, Brian Thomas, I'm just not 299 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 3: gonna have on any teams. Hopefully, like endless sounds really 300 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 3: mean to say, hopefully Jacoby Myers or Parker Washington gets 301 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 3: hurt and we can get Brian Thomas back, or hopefully 302 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: we get a new team for Brian Thomas. But Brian 303 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 3: Thomas Jacksonville Jaguar pains me to say will not be 304 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 3: drafted on a lot of my teams. 305 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: It's really interesting to me that in these early rankings 306 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,600 Speaker 1: they are all very close to each other. Those three guys, 307 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I mean, like just in the overall rankings, Brian Thomas 308 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: Junior ninetieth overall, Jacoby Myers ninety third, Parker Washington ninety fifth. 309 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: So that's three guys who played the same pot actually 310 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: on the same team within six. 311 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 3: Complete reverse Marker Washington, then Myers, then Thomas's minor half 312 00:13:24,480 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 3: point PPR, and I think in PPR you can even 313 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 3: make an argument for a little bit of a gap 314 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: of Parker to Jacoby Mars. 315 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: They would actually be back to back to back at 316 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 1: their own position at a wide receiver if not for 317 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: mikay lemon Is mixing there as well. 318 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 2: In the position higher get him out of there. 319 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, we do ericson what do you make 320 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: just the whole situation in Jacksonville. 321 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: Really, Trevor Lawrence knows where his bread is buttered, and 322 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: it's not with behind Thomas your on the field. Take 323 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 4: it back a couple of years who was eating in 324 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 4: this office with Trevor Lawrence. It was Christian Kirk, was 325 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: Evan Ingram. Those guys had really successful fantas season with 326 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence. And then we fast forward to last year 327 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 4: where they bring in Jacoby Myers because he's a better 328 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 4: fit for what Trevor Lawrence is doing in this Liam 329 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 4: Cohen offense. Same thing with Parker Washington. What has historically 330 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 4: been one of the best fantasy assets has been who 331 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 4: is the primary slot receiver and Liam Cohen's offense, And 332 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 4: a couple of years ago was Chris Goblin Parker Washington. Yeah, 333 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 4: I know that Jacob Myers can also play inside too, 334 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: but he was still when he was on that hot 335 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 4: streak towards the end of the year, a lot of 336 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 4: that was coming from the slot as well. So I 337 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 4: get that he's not the sexy name, but and Brian 338 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 4: Thomas had this monstrous rookie season that you don't want 339 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 4: to completely forget about. But maybe that makes him more 340 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: of a dynasty buy where Hey, this offense right now 341 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: with this coordinator in this quarterback is just not gonna work. 342 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,280 Speaker 4: But look up, maybe gets trade to the Rams. The 343 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 4: Rams were looking for a wide receiver. Maybe they look 344 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 4: at him as a player that they can acquire, they 345 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: can attach to Ty Simpson for the future, because right 346 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 4: now his value is very low on the Jacksonville Jaguars. 347 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 4: So I agree with Jake. I don't think that you 348 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: can really have a lot of confidence. You're just drafting 349 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 4: him hoping that Okay, well he was really good as rookie. 350 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 5: Well he wasn't really last year. 351 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 4: And what has changed significantly is, oh, Trevors Hunter is 352 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 4: going to play more cornerback now? Is like that is 353 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 4: at the selling point because the chemistry I'm just not 354 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: there with the current quarterback in place. 355 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: One more receiver to talk about here on this episode, 356 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: ericson who do you have for us? 357 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, speaking of things that are painful to talk about, 358 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: I have Jamison Williams here from the Detroit Lions, and 359 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 4: we talked about him a lot on the trade show worm. 360 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 4: Basically all of last year, where what do I do 361 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: with Jameson Williams. This guy is putting up goosegg after 362 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: goose egg. First half of the season, weeks one through seven, 363 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 4: he was outside the top fifty wide receivers in points 364 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 4: per game, and somehow, some way he ended up finishing 365 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 4: as a back end Fantasy wide receiver one. Now, that 366 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 4: is also telling about the position this year and last, 367 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 4: or excuse me last year, where you had your top 368 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: guys and then it kind of fell off a cliff 369 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 4: and it was very flat across the board when it 370 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 4: comes to those other receivers in the wide receiver two tier, 371 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 4: which Williams was basically just at. 372 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 5: The top of. But it was twofold. The change. 373 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: Dan Campbell took over as the offensive play caller for 374 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions, and tight end Sam Laporta was placed 375 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 4: on injured reserve, and then Jamo was basically off to 376 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 4: the races in route to another one thousand yard campaign 377 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 4: back end Fantasy wide receiver one status. Now past forward 378 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: to twenty twenty six. Well, Dan Campbell, least the latest 379 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 4: that I've read, he's not calling place. It's gonna be 380 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,960 Speaker 4: Drew PETSI. The guy came from Arizona, Samuel Porta. They're 381 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 4: expecting him to be fully healthy and ready to go 382 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 4: coming off of his back injury. And when you look 383 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 4: at the splits pretty big sample size eight and nine 384 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 4: games with Sam Laporta in and out of the lineup, 385 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 4: his full point per game drop by or excuse me, 386 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 4: his targets per game drop by two point five full 387 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: PPR points per game drop by over four points. He 388 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 4: went from eighty receiving yards to just fifty two and 389 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 4: a half receiving yards. And so that was over the 390 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 4: eight final games that Sam Laporta missed. So although I 391 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 4: recognized that Jamison Williams has a ton a ton of upside, 392 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 4: this guy is so boom or bust where he can 393 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: win your week and he can absolutely nuke your week. 394 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: And that's a player that carries a lot of butt risk. 395 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 4: I think two and I'm not sure if Jake was 396 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:05,880 Speaker 4: going to add this point, but Isaac Tesla also might 397 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 4: be a player that takes on a larger role in 398 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 4: the Detroit Lions offense. So that's another thing that I 399 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 4: wanted to mention when it comes to Jameis Wlliams, I 400 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 4: think that he's a really fun player. I really like 401 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 4: the talent, but I just think that for fantasy football purposes, 402 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 4: he may leave a lot of drafters wanting a little 403 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 4: bit more. 404 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 5: Based on a consistency standpoint. 405 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: Jamison Williams is wide receiver twenty five in ECR. Is 406 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: that too high? Too low? 407 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 2: Or just right in your opinion too high? 408 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 3: And I'm going to take it back to a tweet 409 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 3: I put out that kind of blew up, and that's 410 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 3: not being like ha ha. I had a tweet that 411 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 3: blew up, but it was from twenty twenty four and 412 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 3: it was the Thanos meme and it was what did 413 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 3: it cost you? And I said, we finally got the 414 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: Jameis and Williams breakout and said what did it cost you? 415 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 3: It cost you Sam Laporta. Because that's back with the 416 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,399 Speaker 3: offensive coordinator situation that I completely this one. I completely 417 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 3: agree with Andre and that's the change there is. You 418 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 3: saw the swap over, and then last year they went 419 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 3: back to it when Dan Campbell took back over, they 420 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 3: went back to was working in twenty twenty four. For 421 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 3: the first half of last year, we were all sitting 422 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 3: there going, why the hell did they turn Jameson Williams 423 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: back into the Jamison Williams that wasn't being valuable. And 424 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 3: then we saw the switch with Campbell and the injury 425 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 3: that Andrew brought up. But the bigger thing here too 426 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: is it's not just Petsing coming in and possibly heading 427 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 3: back to using more Sam Laporta. 428 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 2: He's going to because he uses a lot of twelve 429 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 2: and thirteen sets. 430 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: He is actually a tight end kind of centric offensive coordinator. 431 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: And you saw what he was doing with McBride. You're 432 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 3: telling me he's like that. I think Laporta, I know 433 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 3: we're not talking about him. I think he's one of 434 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,360 Speaker 3: the best values at tight end right now because he's 435 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,440 Speaker 3: not being drafted anywhere near the top five, and he 436 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 3: won't be. He's probably like five six seven eight or 437 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 3: six seven eight, but he's even down in like the 438 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 3: eighties and nineties. I think you can get Laporta potentially 439 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 3: back into the top five this year, and it's going 440 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 3: to come at the cost of Jamison Williams, unfortunately, because 441 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: that's just how this offense works. 442 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 443 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: I and again sorts of the point of what I 444 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: was saying about Devanta Adams. It's a very large tier four. 445 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: But Jamis Williams is in this tier also in our 446 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: consensus rankings right now, and there's just other names here 447 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: that I think are are really interesting. He's he's further 448 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: down in that tier than those other names I read before, But. 449 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 3: They're Ajamison Williams or Jalen wattall with the Broncos. 450 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't love trusting. No, I did it because 451 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: one hundred percent Andrew and his left for Jalen Wattle. 452 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no surprise there. I mean, Buka's run spot ahead 453 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: of James and Williams, and the consensus rankings I'd rather 454 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: bet on. 455 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you can make an argument for Alec Pierce 456 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 3: or Jamis Williams. 457 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 4: That's a that's a really good because again they're both 458 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 4: vertical receivers, except out Pierce is. 459 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: The one be the Yeah, even going the three, even 460 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: going down to the next tier, like Christian Watson was 461 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: awesome for you know, a stretch last year in the 462 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 1: second half, d J Moore going to Buffalo Roma dunesday 463 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: Now at DJ Moore, gone want to get a lot. 464 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: I like all those Marvin Harrison or Jamison Williams. 465 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: I want to believe so badly and mar Marvin Harrison dead, 466 00:19:59,080 --> 00:19:59,439 Speaker 1: but I. 467 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 2: Think Marvin the two game people overlook this. 468 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: I know we're not talking about Marvin the two games 469 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 3: that he was healthy with Michael Wilson and Jacoby Brissett. 470 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissett treated. 471 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: Him like the one, not Michael Wilson. Everybody needs to 472 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 3: go back and look at that. Like I'm buying Marvon 473 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 3: Harrison both in Dynasty and Redraft. 474 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:18,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's smart or not, but I'm 475 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: probably gonna say Harrison, it might be done, but I can't. 476 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 5: I have Harrison ranked the head too. Yeah, I was 477 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 5: just looking at it because. 478 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 4: We all hate Jamison Williams well, because the thing is, 479 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 4: I had Jamison Williams probably probably closer to where the 480 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: ECR and ADP had him right around twenty one or 481 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 4: twenty two, because man, this guy is so good finishes 482 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 4: a wide receiver one. But then you just take a 483 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 4: step back and you just recognize the things that we 484 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 4: talked about where Campbell's not com plays, Samilport is back, 485 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: and what happened outside the top fifty people were dropping 486 00:20:45,119 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 4: him last year. He was available on waivers because of 487 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 4: how bad he was to start the year, so. 488 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,719 Speaker 3: He makes a great wide receiver four, like you can 489 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: just plug him in there and deal with the ups 490 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 3: and downs. 491 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 5: Do you think, Jake, I didn't. You didn't ad any comments, 492 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 5: so maybe you didn't think of much it. 493 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: But do you think that Tesla could actually eat into 494 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,400 Speaker 4: Jamison Williams. I know you like Tesla as a prospect, 495 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: and I thought that he showed some flashes. 496 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 3: He's a more complete wide receiver in my opinion, I don't. 497 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 3: I think the ceilings of both for everybody before they 498 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 3: lose their minds. I think the ceilings if Jamison Williams 499 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: would hit everything he can do, has the higher ceiling 500 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: and the better. But I think, like like Tesla doesn't 501 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 3: have the speed and big play of Jamison, but he's 502 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 3: like kind of he's great at everything, not exceptional at anything. 503 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: Jamison Williams has exceptional traits, but he's lacking it on 504 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 3: the area. Like think of it like the NBA jam 505 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 3: thing like with the chart like he like basically Tesla's 506 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 3: like this, and then Jamison Williams is the bars that 507 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: are going like this. 508 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 2: So at my point, being as. 509 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 3: I do, think you could see two wide receiver sets 510 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 3: where Tesla is all of a sudden on the field 511 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 3: and not Jameson Williams this year depending on what Petsing sees. 512 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 4: Jamison Williams is a player that you want to buy 513 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 4: the stock when it's down right. Yes, after he posts 514 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 4: a goose egg, then you go trade for him. You 515 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,440 Speaker 4: don't buy him wet this type of price when he's 516 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 4: locked and load ogays. You gotta be your wide receiver 517 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 4: two week one and he could put up a goose second. 518 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: That would be shocking to literally nobody. 519 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: Agreed our overhead and wrap things up there. Those are 520 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: our over valued receivers to not draft this year at 521 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: cost helthough again it is still early for Jake and Ericson. 522 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm ran warmly. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see again 523 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: next time. Thanks for listening to the Fantasy Pros Fantasy 524 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: Football podcast. 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