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Speaker 2: every day on the YouTube pitch you said that as well,

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Speaker 2: So hey, let's get into it. A lot of NFL today,

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Speaker 2: some baseball today, but I'm sort of spent on baseball,

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, because I'm so upset about the Mets

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Speaker 2: that I think I could take a little break and

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Speaker 2: you could tell me all the great things that I

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Speaker 2: been to every team but mine.

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Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, Rich a sad Mets fan.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this before we get it too football,

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Speaker 2: because I do want to start with Joe Burrow today.

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Speaker 2: But when you see what's happening to my Mets, and

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Speaker 2: it's happened to any team in any sport at one

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Speaker 2: point where you feel like your team sort have fallen apart,

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Speaker 2: as a Yankees fan, I don't take any joy in it,

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Speaker 2: you know. I think it sucks. I think it's sad

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Speaker 2: to see. Let management see it through, because owner Steve

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Speaker 2: Cohen and David Stern's are like, hey, it's it's like December.

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Speaker 2: Wait till you see what lineup we have April. Yeah, Like,

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Speaker 2: is everyone jumping the guns? Let's say the Mets somehow

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Speaker 2: deal some prospects for scoop Ball and they end up

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Speaker 2: getting Tucker and they end up revamping. Then we all

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Speaker 2: gonna be like Bruce Urry, Yeah you still got Sime,

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Speaker 2: and you still got Soto, he still got Lindor. Yeah right,

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Speaker 2: you still got some moves to make. And they're saying

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Speaker 2: like Tati's Juniors a possibility.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you lost it.

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Speaker 2: You lost vibe and you lost and you can't replace

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Speaker 2: that vibe and that entrance and Timmy trumpets.

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Speaker 1: You can't replace the theatrics.

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Speaker 3: That he brought.

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Speaker 2: But hey, fro all, you know, he has a week

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Speaker 2: ass season and you pick up someone good so and

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Speaker 2: you never know who steps up right. So it's not

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Speaker 2: all doom and gloom. But we have lots of football

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Speaker 2: to talk about. Old Man Rivers this weekend. What to

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Speaker 2: watch this weekend, not only in sports and football, but

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Speaker 2: in entertainment. We do it every Friday weekend, hobnobbing, what

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Speaker 2: makes Rich's big TV Game of the week and more.

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Speaker 2: You know what I said, We're gonna start with Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 2: I feel like everyone's talking about Philip Rivers. When do

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Speaker 2: we Dan Buyer? Is there a timeframe when we get

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Speaker 2: past this cult's weight and see mode. Is there a

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Speaker 2: press conference, a tweet sent out as someone on the case, like,

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Speaker 2: how do we know when they're going to say and

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Speaker 2: he's good to go?

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Speaker 4: I think we'll find out by tomorrow on what which

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Speaker 3: Doesn't have to announce a starter.

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Speaker 4: I have a feeling that if Rivers doesn't start, that

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Speaker 4: he still may be active. That could also be the case.

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Speaker 4: But I think tomorrow we're going to find out word

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Speaker 4: who is actually going to start for Indianapolis. I don't

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Speaker 2: Hell, I mean in general, though, how wildly disappointed will

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, and you're right.

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Speaker 4: And here's the other thing is they don't want to

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Speaker 3: It's my second old joke of the day for Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 2: they allow that here's a dude who hasn't played in

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Speaker 2: No one's concerned about this guy taking hits from these

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Speaker 2: especially when the ring Russ sets in. Is there no

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Speaker 2: grapes when it comes to this story too. Cam Newton's

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Speaker 2: it's sort of interesting what's going on with him and

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Speaker 2: his Bengals because he's twenty nine. I love if he You

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Speaker 2: Fulfill my childhood dreams when that fan that look she

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Speaker 2: eternal flame? She might be listening. You never know who's listening. Richland,

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Speaker 2: what a great whistler. But Joe Burrow twenty nine years old.

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Speaker 2: He's got the world by the knus. But it seems

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Speaker 2: the one thing he doesn't have is his health. Can't

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Speaker 2: stay healthy. And the buzz is and it's obvious, it's

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Speaker 2: very reminiscent of another legendary quarterback. And I remember where

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Speaker 2: I was when we heard Andrew Luck's retirement speech like

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Speaker 2: he called it Donzo.

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Speaker 2: Really sad by that. I was so sad. And I'm

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Speaker 2: not an Andrew Luck fan. I'm not a Colts fan,

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Speaker 2: but I'm a fan of greatness, and I was a

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Speaker 2: you're where you were where you like? Panda Express was

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Speaker 2: watching this guy with a somber speech on TV. And

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Speaker 2: I felt me welling up emotional watching this dude talking about.

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Speaker 1: Like, oh man, all shocks.

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Speaker 2: You know, football is my life and uh, it's just

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Speaker 2: not fun for me anymore because he couldn't stay healthy

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Speaker 2: and he had his neck beard. I remember thinking, look

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Speaker 2: at his neck beard. He's a young guy from Iron.

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Speaker 2: He's retiring at twenty nine. This guy has the world

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Speaker 1: Well, with that said, he listen.

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Speaker 2: I felt it was very reminiscent when you hear Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow saying the same sort of thing. Take us in

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Speaker 2: a Burrow and hey, it's what we all do, not

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Speaker 2: just on sports radio and podcast and you know what

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Speaker 2: you're doing on social media, we do it in day

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Speaker 2: to day life in our families. We all overanalyze what

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Speaker 2: we played the clip? Then I'm sure you've seen it.

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's all over the place today. Is this retirement

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Speaker 2: talk or is he just going through it? You know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes people just have bad days, bad moods, terrible, horrible,

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Speaker 1: It could very well.

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Speaker 2: Be he woke up on the wrong side of the bed,

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Speaker 2: had a bad season. Oh, sort down, sort of glowm

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Speaker 2: on himself, So be thinking, Man, I came back to

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Speaker 2: a team that couldn't even like stay afloat for me?

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Speaker 1: Is it even worthy?

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Speaker 2: Look, we all go through little poudy moments where we

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Speaker 1: Could it be just that? And we're making a bigger

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Speaker 2: Like I've never heard Joe Burrow talk this way though,

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Speaker 2: So that's why it's got people buzzing. Is his retirement

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Speaker 2: know what, it also proves that no matter how cool, handsome,

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Speaker 2: successful doesn't matter, no matter how great your hair is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the guy's got great hair. Great hair, everyone's

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Speaker 2: got problems. He's got a Victoria Secret supermodeled girlfriend. He's

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Speaker 2: one of the highest paid athletes in all professional sports.

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Speaker 2: On top of that, he's like a handsome, cool guy.

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Speaker 2: Like you would think, what could possibly bother this guy?

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Speaker 2: But he does seem, like you said, like he's going

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Speaker 6: If I want to keep doing this, I have to

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Speaker 6: have fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot,

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Speaker 6: and if it's not fun, then what am I doing

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure. I'm not sure there is a singular

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Speaker 7: It's just a reflection, reflection on a lot of things

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Speaker 6: In my career. I think I've been through more than

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Speaker 6: most and it's certainly not easy on the brain or

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Even Jamar Chase was taken by surprise. He was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: wes not the Joe Burrow I know and see he

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Speaker 2: always comes in with positivity and yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: So when I heard Jamar Chase talking about like, that's

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Speaker 2: not the guy that I see, I'm thinking that maybe

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Speaker 2: he just had a bad day.

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Speaker 1: Here's Jamar Chase.

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Speaker 5: He smiles every day.

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Speaker 6: Like like the narrative that y'all, I'm a paint on

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Speaker 6: him right now, I don't see it, you know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: At the end of the day, he's the same person

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Speaker 5: every day. He comes to work, he loves work, he

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Speaker 5: loves the guy in the locker room.

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Speaker 3: So he's pretty positive.

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Speaker 1: To meres We'll just ask some questions, just what the

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Speaker 1: we for the.

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Speaker 5: Mic A little bit of nervous, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you show up to your workplace, right

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Speaker 2: because it's his workplace. If I showed up on the

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Speaker 2: air and we all have bad days and I said

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Speaker 2: on the air, you know this is this isn't fun

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Speaker 2: for me anymore. Just don't feel the same way that

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Speaker 2: I used to feel about radio. So why why do

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Speaker 2: radio if I'm not having fun doing it? You know,

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Speaker 2: there's other things that I could do. And if I'm

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Speaker 2: not having fun, then why this Wouldn't people be like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 2: are you kidding right now? That doesn't sound like positive talk.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they say that when I'm talking about Rich behind

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: But you would say, you know what's up with Covino,

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Speaker 4: I would also think that Rich Davis and and maybe

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Speaker 4: I could understand why Jamar Chase would maybe be taking

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, something to be said. I mean, and keep

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Speaker 4: I the whole injury stuff that you go through from

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm noticing, Dan that it was that

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Speaker 3: A the one he threw four touchdowns in.

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Speaker 2: And what I noticed listening to that clip is it's

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Speaker 2: rough season. But when you see the body language mixed

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Speaker 2: what Andrew Luck was saying. When Andrew Luck basically said

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Speaker 1: We don't know how he feels. That's the thing.

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Speaker 2: We don't know really how he feels and what a

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Speaker 2: It's just not the vibe you want to hear from

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Speaker 1: Plenty of money, They're able to walk away.

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Speaker 2: It might not be worth putting their body through all

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Speaker 2: It becomes a pattern, becomes a routine. As Andrew Luck

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Speaker 2: to see where this guy's career goes and the greatness

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Speaker 2: he's possible of. I don't think he walks away, but

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Speaker 2: hear stories like dry cleaner. Yeah, like your guys on

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Speaker 2: a deli too. Now, one year, if one year of

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Speaker 2: like winning the Mega millions are Powerball, unless you're Odell

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Speaker 2: Beckham Junior it's hard to survive on It's hard to

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Speaker 2: survive if you're that guy. But yeah, man, it's not

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Speaker 1: The hell's going on? What's up with this guy?

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Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 1: Is he is he thinking about leaving? Am I? He's

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Speaker 2: Am I being soft by saying I sort of feel

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Speaker 2: for him because Joe Burrow is such a no, such

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Speaker 2: But Joe Burrow is such a competitor that when he

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Speaker 2: When you know he's coming into a new season being like,

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Speaker 2: always an uphill battle. And that's exactly the reason why

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Speaker 2: Andrew Luck called it quits early. That's exactly the reason.

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Speaker 2: Every time it was two step forward, five steps back.

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Speaker 2: Every time he got healthy again. And that's your body

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Speaker 2: trying to tell you something like, hey man, maybe you

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Speaker 2: he's able to make that decision.

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Speaker 1: All of us should, I say, none of us want

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Speaker 2: It's cool and people are like putting names to the face,

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Speaker 2: like first time I saw Dandy g love seeing you

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a mental health thing. I think

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Speaker 1: A break thing? Oh, I'm starts to affect him mentally.

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Speaker 2: Right, if you feel like you're not winning, and I

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Speaker 1: He's probably a big fan, isn't. Charlie Sheen a fan

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Speaker 2: But I think that if he was just going through

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Speaker 1: I do.

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Speaker 2: I think he really is on the fence and thinking,

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Speaker 2: like you don't say things like that at a press

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Speaker 1: So again, the question is.

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Speaker 2: And does it feel like retirement talk or is he

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Speaker 2: let's see. I think there's a possibility, right, But I

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Speaker 2: HK black Cat hit as somebody goes, hey, listen, the

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Speaker 2: guy's got options. Joe Burrow could continue to shower with

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Speaker 2: a bunch of three hundred pounds offensive lineman, or go

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Speaker 2: shower Victoria's secret model at home when he has hundreds

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Speaker 2: of millions of dollars in the bank. So he's great

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Speaker 2: and all, but guys like that aren't that. It's winnings

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Speaker 2: in their DNA. They're the most competitive people on the planet.

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Speaker 2: You think you're competitive, these guys do this for a living.

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Speaker 1: That's that can you know they want to win?

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Speaker 2: That conversation is why I can never understand when people say, oh,

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Speaker 2: is always if I care to win at Rex Sunday Softball,

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Speaker 2: you're trying to win. They want to be one of

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Speaker 2: just hanging you think Joe Burrow is pleased with another

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Speaker 2: season that sort of got away from him. But I

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Speaker 2: but let's say it's also a subconscious that this is

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Speaker 2: a year where the six seven, the six and seven

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Speaker 2: Chiefs have taken a step back. There's a sentiment that, like, yo,

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Speaker 2: here was your chance. The Chiefs are stinking like Abe Lincoln.

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Speaker 2: Someone now has a path. You had a path you

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Speaker 3: Joe?

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Speaker 2: We forget Burrow's the only guy that got to the

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Speaker 2: that one off year where the Bengals beat him and

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Speaker 2: then the Bengals just fell shy in the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: He's the guy that did it.

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Speaker 2: This was another little window, as you like to say,

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Speaker 2: I say this was a window of like, oh, all right,

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Speaker 2: when when you're sort of giving in that like man,

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Speaker 2: the AFC is going to be represented by like Bo

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: This was this should have been our path.

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Speaker 2: I want to be clear on what I'm saying here.

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Speaker 2: I haven't heard anyone else really say this rich because

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Speaker 1: It feels that way.

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Speaker 2: It does, But I do want to throw the possibility

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Speaker 2: just going through it. It's been a tough year, but

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Speaker 2: I do want to point out again that possibility he's.

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Speaker 1: Just going through it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody relaxed, Yeah, because I'm hoping for the best. But

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Speaker 2: You could feel if they want to retire, they're on

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Speaker 2: it's always like back, We're going to get back to

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Speaker 2: you know, we'll be back again. I'm not finished yet,

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Speaker 2: or you know, to take it day by day, talk

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Speaker 2: to my family. That means they're on the fence, right,

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Speaker 2: Like you could tell the difference. Are we back to

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Speaker 2: gonna figure it out and come back better next time,

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Speaker 2: or I got to talk to my camp, talk to

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Speaker 1: That's like whole hull attitude.

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Speaker 2: He had whole hull attitude here, and that makes me

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Speaker 2: think that this was retirement talk. That doesn't mean it's

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Speaker 2: hate to see that happened, all right, So I hope

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Speaker 2: you get what we're selling here, Joe Burrow and his

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Speaker 2: You know what, can we play it one more time?

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Speaker 2: Since we're over speculating and it's what we do however

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Speaker 5: If I want to keep doing this, I have to

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Speaker 6: You know, I've been through a lot, and if it's

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Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not sure there is a singular moment

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Speaker 7: It's just a reflection, reflection on a lot of things

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Speaker 7: that I've done and been through in my career.

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Speaker 5: I think I've been through more.

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Speaker 6: Than most and it's certainly not easy on the brain

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Speaker 6: or the body.

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Speaker 5: So it's trying off. I'm doing it again.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to hear back to the drawing board

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Speaker 2: and get him next year. I want to hear more

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Speaker 2: of that. And we didn't this time. But your thoughts,

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Speaker 2: your phone calls eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,

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Speaker 2: and he was great. I saw him last night. He

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Speaker 2: was in a home alone and home alone till yeah,

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Speaker 2: handsome McCaulay culkin. They are two and a half point

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Speaker 2: underdogs against Baltimore. Does the outcome of that game at

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Speaker 2: all change his vibe? You think if he has because

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Speaker 2: winning's fun. Like dB said on Thanksgiving night, he looked

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Speaker 2: pretty happy. Hey, Rich, We've been at jobs where it's

454
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Speaker 2: like this isn't fun. Yeah, we have only one. It's

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Speaker 2: a weak ass feeling. And if he's not having fun,

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Speaker 2: like you really do start contemplating, like is it worth

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Speaker 2: it your job? If you love it and it's the

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Speaker 2: right job, it at times could be a really good

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Speaker 2: mental escape from from problems you're going through. Rich and

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Speaker 2: I had jobs before where it was supposed to be

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Speaker 2: fun and it quickly stopped being fun. We'd look at

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Speaker 2: each other like, I don't know if this is worth it, man,

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Speaker 2: I just don't, man, And that's not a good place

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Speaker 2: for your quarterback to be.

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Speaker 1: They better start winning, they better start having fun. Your thoughts,

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Speaker 1: your feedback at eight seven, seven, nine nine.

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Speaker 2: If I was if I was a Bengals fan, I'd

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Speaker 2: be sending like like a like a circus clown to

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Speaker 2: the to the locker room and like a magician, someone

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Speaker 2: to bring the fun and like osa mentalists like play game.

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Speaker 2: I would I would definitely send some sort of street

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Speaker 2: performer to the locker room and to just to lighten

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Speaker 2: the mood up a little bit. Yeah, exactly, send your

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Speaker 2: uncle Bosa Borrow, make them some balloon animals.

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Speaker 3: Man Mike Brown, better order pizza for the whole team.

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Speaker 2: I would I would call up Sebastian Maniscalco and be like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you got five minutes for this guy?

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Speaker 1: Make him laugh for something.

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Speaker 2: Why would your offensive line do that? When barrass get

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Speaker 2: something going? All right, So your thoughts on Burrow. We're

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Speaker 2: gonna talk about of course, Philip Rivers. People are hyped

482
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Speaker 2: about this. If it doesn't happen, what a letdown. By

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Speaker 2: the way, speaking of bad vibes, Rich he needs to

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Speaker 2: lighten his vibe up. The Bengals need to lighten their

485
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Speaker 2: vibe up. He needs to have fun. Let's keep him there,

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Speaker 2: Let's get that going right. Everyone needs to start kissing

487
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Speaker 2: his ass a little bit, tell him how great he is.

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Speaker 2: Same thing's going on in Philadelphia. Vibe is bad, So

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Speaker 2: talk about that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about, uh, what's going on in Philly.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk a little NBA today.

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Speaker 2: So I'm Covino and that is rich and I don't

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Speaker 1: Making a mountain out of mole hills. I don't even

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Speaker 1: know what that means.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to make a bigger deal about this

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Speaker 2: Joe Burrow thing, but I do think that it's worth speculating.

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Speaker 2: I think he was he was saying too much, like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 2: maybe just that he should have stayed home. We've seen

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Speaker 2: it with Barry Sanders. We've seen it with Andrew Luck,

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Speaker 2: not for the same rear. Senders was thirty one. I

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Speaker 2: think Luck was twenty nine. We rose twenty nine. It's

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Speaker 2: not impossible. We've seen good players walk away early because

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Speaker 2: it just injuries or they weren't feeling it.

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Speaker 3: One thing that surprises me of the timing of this.

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Speaker 9: I was looking at PFF and they have an elite

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Speaker 9: ninety three point one team pass blocking grade for the

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Speaker 9: Bengals since Burrow returned from injury, leading the NFL by

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Speaker 9: a wide margin. So yeah, it's only a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 9: But the O line actually came together since he returned.

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Speaker 2: And for the record is his sixth, sixth season and

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Speaker 2: he's just dealt with injury after injury after injury. For you, yeah,

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Speaker 2: is there a player that comes to mind off the

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Speaker 2: top of the dome. Maybe they played for your team

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Speaker 2: that you enjoyed, that called it a day early, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: I you know, I saw Patrick or just because I mean,

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Speaker 2: for me, I would be Don Mattingly domatically for injury.

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Speaker 2: But uh, Jim Brown, I just retired at twenty nine years.

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Speaker 2: I had to look up the age because I'm a big,

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Speaker 2: you know, Niners guy. As you can see if you

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Speaker 2: watch on the YouTube chat my NFL Jam Brock, pretty

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Speaker 2: shirt McCaffrey, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Patrick Willis thirty years old? I didn't think it was

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Speaker 1: that young.

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Speaker 2: With Patrick Willis, who was one of the best, SAIDs,

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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of injuries got him caught up

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Speaker 2: and he called it a day at thirty, So, hey,

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Speaker 2: we see it happen.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's I think he's just feeling down.

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Speaker 1: I really do. I think Burrow, it.

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Speaker 2: Could very well be that it was pretty noticeable, though

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, but this is most of the time,

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Speaker 2: it's like, uh, yeah, you know, it's been a tough

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Speaker 2: year kind of thing. This is a amount having fun,

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Speaker 2: and why do things when you're not having fun anymore?

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Speaker 1: This isn't really.

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Speaker 2: Going out on a limb because I think everyone would

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Speaker 2: agree with me. If it happens one more time, then

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Speaker 2: I think he might be like, if this is just

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Speaker 2: not meant to be or something. But I think it

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Speaker 2: would be crazy if Joe Burrow as talented and as

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Speaker 2: young as he is and he's able to play now.

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Speaker 2: I think if if he runs it back next year

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Speaker 2: and God forbid, like in week three, you know, hurts

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Speaker 2: his knee or something, then I think he'll be like,

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Speaker 2: that's it. But I think he's got one more. Do

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Speaker 2: they call it back to a college? Try hurrah?

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Speaker 1: One more?

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Speaker 2: Hurrah? Let's go to your phone calls and feedback. Danny

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Speaker 2: G is answering your calls and saying, what's up at eight.

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Speaker 1: Seven, Danny G, what do you want to talk about?

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Speaker 1: Night on Fox Washington State, Chris, you're on with some buddy.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, Hey, he's just chiming in about the Burrow situation.

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Speaker 10: Cavino asked, had asked, if you remember where you were

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Speaker 10: when it happened with Luck and it was just before

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Speaker 10: the season, and I actually had drafted him in the

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Speaker 10: sixth round of my fantasy draft, and now this is

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Speaker 10: a live draft with all my buddies.

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Speaker 11: And then in the eighth round is when we is

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Speaker 11: when we take our break. And in the eighth round,

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Speaker 11: at our break, he announced his retirement. So everybody's busting

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Speaker 11: my chops the rest of the draft. I end up

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Speaker 11: naming my team ask out of Luck for the rest

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Speaker 11: of the year.

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Speaker 2: Nice, you know you got you got to get a

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Speaker 2: great name out of it. And truthfully, it was sad.

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Speaker 2: Though truthfully, I feel like you're not the only one.

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Speaker 2: I remember that being like a bottom layer of the

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Speaker 2: whole thing. Though there was a surprise he's retiring because

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Speaker 2: I remember there were people I knew that were, you know,

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Speaker 2: higher end fantasy things like could you believe the drifted Luck?

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Speaker 2: Because he was a good fantasy player. So that's that's wild,

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Speaker 2: all right? Larry in Vegas, what's up man?

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Speaker 11: He was going on?

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Speaker 3: I want to come in on that. Joe Burrows.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm disappointed.

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Speaker 8: I'm disappointed in you guys.

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Speaker 10: You guys up there pondering what you did. That's like

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Speaker 10: if a chick call you and you say this relationship

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Speaker 10: was this and bet, but I'm not having fun anymore.

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Speaker 11: You guys know what that means.

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Speaker 2: When the chick she's having, she's got, she's already swinging

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Speaker 2: from some other. Yeah, so you're thinking that, right, So

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Speaker 2: you're saying, I am right.

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Speaker 1: We've been there. We've all been there yet.

656
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Speaker 2: So Larry don't want to hear that. So what Larry's

657
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 2: insinuating is like he might not be done. He might

658
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Speaker 2: be done with the Bengals that he just wants out.

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Speaker 2: So that that's so Larry, good call.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, absolutely with that, Because there's been talk with

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Speaker 4: the Jets and the deals that they did in trading

662
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Speaker 4: Sauce Gardner and then trading Quinn Williams that they would

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Speaker 4: have the ammunition with their number one picks if someone

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Speaker 4: like Burrow was available. This has kind of been swirling

665
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Speaker 4: in the Jets world for about the last month or so.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that feels the need to see other teams. Imagine

667
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Speaker 2: having bad luck to begin saying it's not you, it's me.

668
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Speaker 2: I'm saying it's not me, it's you.

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's exactly.

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Speaker 2: But imagine imagine like being like, yeah, I'm really been

671
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Speaker 2: down on my luck. I'm gonna change up by going

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Speaker 2: to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: That does makes sense in dB.

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Speaker 9: Do you think because he got his boys paid that

675
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Speaker 9: and he helped him get that bag, that maybe he

676
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Speaker 9: doesn't feel as guilty if he leaves he should feel

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Speaker 9: more guilty.

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Speaker 4: Guy, they were going to get to regardless, and it's

679
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Speaker 4: the to stay in Cincinnati for something. That's why I

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Speaker 4: brought it up earlier. Yeah, I'm sure they're kind of like,

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Speaker 4: wait a second, why did I sign the long term

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Speaker 4: deal in Cincinnati?

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Speaker 1: But they got good chili there?

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Speaker 2: Do they?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 12: Man, Sam, I hear more jokes about Skyline Chili than

687
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Speaker 12: actual complimence.

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Speaker 2: I think that's really weak. I really do well. Great

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Speaker 2: insight Larry. One last time from Daniel and Virginia. Then

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Speaker 2: we'll go to Dan Buyer for an update. Daniel, what's

691
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Speaker 2: going on?

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Speaker 1: Man?

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Speaker 11: Hey, what's up? Guys? I was just calling in and

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Speaker 11: talking about a player that retired early, A favorite player.

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Speaker 10: I mean, he's only thirty four years old right now,

696
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Speaker 10: he could still be dominating the defensive linebacker.

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Speaker 1: Luke Keighley was such a force.

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, oh man, you know what, there's a

699
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Speaker 2: sense that you can even a handful of linebackers that

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Speaker 2: were really good that I just I guess when you're

701
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Speaker 2: so dominant at that position, one little tweak or injury

702
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Speaker 2: just takes you off your game and you're like, yeah,

703
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Speaker 2: I'm just not.

704
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Speaker 1: Doing it anymore.

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Speaker 12: Man, Rich, I texted you something a former San Francisco

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Speaker 12: forty nine or who retired after one is it Chris Borland?

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Speaker 3: Chris Borland?

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Speaker 12: I remember that because he was he was like a

709
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Speaker 12: young former Badger and was worried about CTE. So, man,

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Speaker 12: I mean, listen, it's your health and you do what

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Speaker 12: you want with it.

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Speaker 1: When you lose.

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Speaker 2: When you're a dominant defender like that, like you said,

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Speaker 2: like a kickley and you lose a step. Have you

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Speaker 2: guys seen like I know he was part of your

716
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Speaker 2: defense in Seattle that dominated, But have you seen Wagner

717
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Speaker 2: like lately he just lost a step?

718
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I lost a couple of years ago. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But it's like I Dy even commented like, well when

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Speaker 2: he was with Seattle there, you know, it's a different story,

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Speaker 2: LEGIONI boom defense like such a such a position where

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Speaker 2: I think it goes quick all right?

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Speaker 1: Uh, damn Bayer, what's going on with you?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 1: What's What's the update.

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Speaker 3: A lot going on today.

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Speaker 4: Former Michigan and football coach Charon Moore attended his court

728
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Speaker 4: session via video as he faces a third degree felony

729
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Speaker 4: charge of home invasion, a misdemeanor charge of stalking, and

730
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Speaker 4: a misdemeanor charge of breaking and entering stemming from the

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Speaker 4: incidents that occurred Wednesday in ann Arbor. He spawned was

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Speaker 4: set at twenty five thousand dollars. He's due back in

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Speaker 4: court in January. He'll be required to wear a GPS

734
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Speaker 4: device and cannot leave the state of Michigan. Utah head

735
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Speaker 4: coach Kyle Whittingham stepping down from his position after the

736
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Speaker 4: Las Vegas Bowl against Nebraska. He's done with the Utes

737
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Speaker 4: after twenty one seasons. The Athletic Reports, though that Whittingham

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Speaker 4: may not be done coaching, but is done at Utah.

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Speaker 4: on Wednesday. He's not likely to play against the Dolphins

746
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Speaker 4: on Monday night, but right now Watt has not been

747
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Speaker 4: ruled out for the season. Raiders are going to start

748
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Speaker 4: Kenny Pickett at quarterback against the Eagles. Jets will start

749
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Speaker 4: rookie Brady Cook against the Jaguars. He'll become the seventh

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Speaker 4: rookie to start a game at quarterback this season. Colt

751
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Speaker 4: said coach Chane Steichen still has not made a decision

752
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Speaker 4: publicly and who will start for Indye against the Seahawks

753
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Speaker 4: in week fifteen. Well, the Chiefs will be down three

754
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Speaker 4: offensive linemen and wide receiver Hollywood Brown when they face

755
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Speaker 4: the Chargers coming up on Sunday. Bengals have the Ravens,

756
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Speaker 4: but they won't to have t Higgins. He's out because

757
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Speaker 4: of his concussion. Cowboys wide receiver Cede Lamb clear concussion

758
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Speaker 4: protocol and we'll play against the Vikings. Packers running back

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Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs was on the practice field today after missing

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Speaker 4: the first two workouts of the week, while Bears wide

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Speaker 4: receiver Romaduonde questionable to face the Browns and Victor webin

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Speaker 4: Yama likely back for the Spurs. Tomorrow against the Thunder

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Speaker 4: and the NBA Cup. Semis guys back to you.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny you would say that dB.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I know we're in an NFL

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Speaker 2: state of mind, but it just wrote down. Asked dB

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Speaker 2: about because he's probable to be back. That's a real

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Speaker 2: interesting test because we keep talking about this unbeatable twenty

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Speaker 2: four and one Thunder team. I know the Cup in

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Speaker 2: the NBA hasn't had the pizaz they wanted, but who

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to watch that? If Wemby's back for the Spurs,

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Speaker 2: a Wemby Spur team healthy, everyone's healthy against the OKAC

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Speaker 2: Thunder's that's probably the most legit test they've gotten so far.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're absolutely right. If you're not watching

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Speaker 4: a game like that in your in season, I mark

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Speaker 4: when are you gonna watch exactly?

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Speaker 1: That's one to jot down. Thank you, Dan Byer. Now

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Speaker 1: we gotta got a lot more coming up.

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the NFC East later if

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Speaker 2: that's cool with you, because if you lay out the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys versus the Eagles final four games, there's a way

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Speaker 2: for the Cowboys to still sort of find their where

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Speaker 2: in but they're gonna need the Eagles to really collapse,

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Speaker 2: and I think you think it's possible based on the

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Speaker 2: vibe they got going on. Well, the positivity Bunny doesn't

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Speaker 2: working the way they at Hope think. So Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about that and more, your big TV game of

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Speaker 2: the week, Perfect all next. So a lot of NFL

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Speaker 1: I watched at the bar last night. That was rough.

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Speaker 2: I was just trying to they pread Mike Evans looking mad,

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Speaker 2: yelling the bar.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, every by yourself at the bar.

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Speaker 2: I was at the bah, you know, just me Boulevard

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Speaker 2: had broken dreams. Sam, this me and my Bruski either

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Speaker 2: you eat the bar the bye you yeah, Hi so

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Speaker 2: badly want to get into a lot of the I

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Speaker 2: guess you would say a lot of the playoff scenarios

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Speaker 2: over the final four games of the season. I gotta

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Speaker 2: ask Dan Bayer because he's alluded to this, and he's

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Speaker 2: a man of knowledge.

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Speaker 1: Man of honor, He's just the man.

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Speaker 2: I mean, do you think when you see a team

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Speaker 2: like the Bucks and they still have two games against

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Speaker 2: the Panthers, so last night, not that it was irrelevant,

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Speaker 2: but if they sweep the Panthers, it doesn't matter. They

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Speaker 2: win the division. Right, two of the final three games

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Speaker 2: they have are against the Panthers. Someone's gonna win that division,

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Speaker 2: like nine to eight. Meanwhile, my Niners, your Seahawks, the Packers,

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Speaker 2: the Bears. Someone's gonna have to play a road game

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Speaker 2: with possibly twelve or thirteen wins at Tampa or at

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Speaker 2: Carolina with nine wins. Is that just the way the

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Speaker 2: cookie crumbles? Or do you think realignment in the playoffs

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Speaker 2: is a thing?

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Speaker 4: No, it needs to be. I harp on this on

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Speaker 4: my Sunday show.

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Speaker 1: That's the thing that you. Yeah's why I ask you.

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Speaker 1: Do you think it should be realigned? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Well I don't think that if you win your

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Speaker 4: division you should get a home game. What were the

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00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 4: vikings last year? There were fourteen to three. Now, ultimately

847
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 4: the Rams game was displaced because the wildfires out here.

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Speaker 4: They'd go and play in Arizona and it's a neutral field.

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Speaker 4: But like Minnesota, and I know they lost that game,

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Speaker 4: that's not reason to be like, see, they shouldn't. There's

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Speaker 4: no way that Tampa or Carolina should have an advantage

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Speaker 4: winning your division, especially in a year like this. Just

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Speaker 4: to get into the playoffs is fine, automatic berth of

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Speaker 4: the playoffs. You win your division, you're in. But to

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Speaker 4: say that you hold your seed of a four seed,

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Speaker 4: so you'll have a higher seed than any of the

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Speaker 4: wild cards if you advance as far as you need,

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Speaker 4: that's ridiculous. And then just to think of a team

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Speaker 4: like the Lions right now on the outside looking in,

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Speaker 4: they've got a better record than Tampa in Carolina, they'll be.

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Speaker 2: A team in the NFC that doesn't make the playoffs

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Speaker 2: that is worse than the Panthers a bum.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sac yes, So I hate it when the owners

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Speaker 4: say like they want to win the they want to

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Speaker 4: put value on the division. In winning the division, the

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Speaker 4: value is getting into the playoffs when you shouldn't have been,

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Speaker 4: and that's what the bonus would have been this year.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that we would have argued with that.

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Speaker 4: But to have a home game is just it's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: I'm not a fan of it at all.

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Speaker 2: The nine and four Bears, the nine and four nine ers,

872
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Speaker 2: you're Seahawks. There's a team that are by the way,

873
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: ten to three. There's a team that's gonna win twelve

874
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Speaker 2: or thirteen games, that's gonna have to pack their bags

875
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Speaker 2: and go across the country down to either Tampa or

876
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: Carolina to play a team that is barely over five hundred.

877
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Speaker 2: But you could argue that that's take that's yeah, I

878
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Speaker 2: was le game of the game. That's how the cookie crumbles.

879
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Speaker 2: But you know, when I hear Dan Byer so passionately

880
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: say yeah, that's that's bunk. Shouldn't be that way, it

881
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 2: makes me think a little more about it. She care

882
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: about if your Yankees won ninety eight games but then

883
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: had to go up, you know, play a road series

884
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: against the team that won eighty four games, and it's

885
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,839
Speaker 2: just a different I'm one of those guys like, oh,

886
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: those are the rules. I guess those are the rules.

887
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Speaker 2: Yo's That's sort of how my mind works with that stuff.

888
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, now I'll double double guess it. Now think

889
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: about it more. Well, Hey, listen, we're gonna talk some

890
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: Cowboys and Eagles, because there's a there's more more possibilities

891
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: in the NFC East than you think, and Covino's really

892
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 2: getting a kick out of this. Hall Eagles positivity Bunny,

893
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 2: we're gonna get to that and my big game of

894
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Speaker 2: the week.

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Speaker 1: Let's go next.