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Speaker 1: Hey you United Kingdomonians, blokes and blokets. This is Rory

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Speaker 1: and Maul and we are coming to London's Earth Theater

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Speaker 1: November fifth.

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Speaker 2: Yes, first time across the pond for me, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I'm excited to for not first time across the pond,

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Speaker 1: first time going across the pond and people were actually

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Speaker 1: waiting to see me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, first time of the work visa.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we will be at the Earth Theater November fifth

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Speaker 1: and London, looking forward to it. Hope to see you

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Speaker 1: all soon. Get your tickets now. If not, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a fucking pissfest when we get there.

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Speaker 2: Going nuts.

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Speaker 3: Somebody chill with me. The niggas that bucking back, don't

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Speaker 3: say not. And them niggas are kill for me because

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Speaker 3: I come in my sleep off fleet.

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Speaker 3: I'm a dog in my tree.

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Speaker 1: How about the foul and leave?

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Speaker 3: I put them brig in the thunder my bit she

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Speaker 3: bucome round lesson Chris Jenmers, I just do breaking them.

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Speaker 3: They take up the game of temple.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to a new episode of the new Rory and

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Speaker 1: Mall Podcast. I am Maul, I'm Rory, and we are

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Speaker 1: are back with a new episode UH.

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Speaker 2: For the week.

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Speaker 1: Since the last time we spoke UH, once again, we've

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Speaker 1: had a tragic monumental loss in UH in the hip

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Speaker 1: hop culture, hip hop community. Sadly, take Off, one of

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Speaker 1: the members of the Migos, I'm pretty sure everybody's heard

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Speaker 1: by now, was was killed in Houston again, another tragedy.

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Speaker 1: Only twenty eight years old. UH, super talented. This This

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Speaker 1: was one of the one of those ones Rory that

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Speaker 1: completely completely just I don't know if it's because I'm

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Speaker 1: getting older and I just like feel things more, but this,

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Speaker 1: this one really really bothered me to wake up and

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Speaker 1: received the news that take Off was killed, you know.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's it's beyond sad It's it's deeper than

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Speaker 1: a sadness. It's it's scary, it's a it's frightening, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's an eiry, eerie energy. It's a it's a

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Speaker 1: very dark energy that seems to be hovering and entrenched

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Speaker 1: in our culture that was once a beautiful, beautiful thing

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Speaker 1: and and you know, for the most part, still is.

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Speaker 1: But it's time for a different conversation. It's time for

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Speaker 1: different uh change. It's it's something has to happen immediately.

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Speaker 1: Something has to change immediately, because this is, this is

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Speaker 1: beyond beyond you know.

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Speaker 2: What we.

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Speaker 1: Can even like, you know, comprehend this is it's almost

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Speaker 1: like you don't you don't. You don't know what's going on.

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Speaker 1: You don't know what's next. And I know, you know,

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Speaker 1: people say, oh, you know, it's you know, the layers

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Speaker 1: and the energy that we live with and we walk

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Speaker 1: around with, and you know, streets we missed, mixed the

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Speaker 1: streets with the art and the culture and whatever it is.

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Speaker 1: Something needs to change, and something needs to happen now

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Speaker 1: because you don't know. You know, it's almost like you

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Speaker 1: sit around and you support these artists, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and they're gone, and you know, in a tragic way,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, I don't even understand. I can't

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Speaker 1: even understand. I'm old enough to remember what it felt

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Speaker 1: like to wake up and find out that Biggie was killed.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm old enough to remember what it

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Speaker 1: felt like hearing when Tupac passed away, and I remember

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Speaker 1: that feeling, and the feeling now is almost something.

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Speaker 2: That's we don't have to sugarcoat it. It's normal, fucking normal.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's it's it's it's like, I don't I

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Speaker 1: I know people will find lyrics and stuff to pick

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Speaker 1: But you know, it still wasn't a negative energy that

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Speaker 1: It's whenever my phone rings at a certain time in

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Speaker 1: People say it's the music. It's the lyrics and words

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Speaker 1: You know, actors playing movies where they're shooting things up

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Speaker 1: You know, actors aren't gunned down, you know. So it's

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Speaker 1: So let's start with taking accountability. What are we doing

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Speaker 1: Is it everybody you know being in these and it's

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Speaker 1: Why do we feel like we have to walk around

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Speaker 1: people that you know aren't can't afford these things, you know,

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Speaker 1: Because something is completely wrong with this frequency. Something is

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Speaker 2: Because of this culture called hip hop.

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Speaker 1: Like it just doesn't make sense to me, Like it doesn't,

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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't make like. We don't see you know,

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Speaker 1: see country artists dying from this. We don't see gospel

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Speaker 1: We change how we move, we change how we you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where it turned. And we're you know,

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Speaker 1: became so deadly. But like you said, Rory, this is

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Speaker 1: almost normal, Like we were just talking earlier, and it's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like rinse and repeat on Instagram again.

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Speaker 2: And I was thinking the past forty eight hours since

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Speaker 2: it happened, like, you know, you have to think about

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Speaker 1: But see, I go deep in that. Why we gotta

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you. I entertained the people this question.

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Speaker 2: he should. But I do know the reality of the

431
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,880
Speaker 2: world and it doesn't work that way. Do I think

432
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 2: somebody should be able to just go to a city

433
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: and perform, make their money and be out safely. Of course,

434
00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 2: but I do know the little bit that I know

435
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,159
Speaker 2: that can't. But that's been sometime.

436
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: But that's what that's what we see that those are

437
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 1: the conversations that we got to sit down and have.

438
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 1: We'll sit down and talk about everything else except for

439
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,360
Speaker 1: the ship. That's that doesn't make sense, Like why does

440
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: an entertainer that's coming here to entertain and and make

441
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: people feel good and and and and and and and

442
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: you know, perform music and bring people together for a

443
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,640
Speaker 1: good time, why does that person have to check in

444
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 1: and all this other shit, like like why Like, I'm

445
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: not here to you know, harm nobody. I'm not here

446
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: to take from nobody. I'm not here to disrespect nobody.

447
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: Like so I just don't understand when that It's like

448
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: why do we put we put ship in the culture

449
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: that completely has changed the culture, Like we put little

450
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: little things in the pot and it's like now it's

451
00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. Though, Like why does that we

452
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: gotta have those conversations like because to me, that's that's

453
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,880
Speaker 1: it really bails down to it almost almost an ego thing.

454
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: It's like ego, yo, check in, do this, do that.

455
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: And it's like Brodie were talking about grown men here though,

456
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: like you understand what I'm saying, Like I feel like

457
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 1: why I'm here to entertain, but I'm not here to

458
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: disrespect nobody. I'm not here to you know, take nothing

459
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 1: from the community. You know, these are people that support

460
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: me obviously, is while I'm here. They want to see me,

461
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: they want to, you know, come out, have a good time.

462
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 1: I just don't understand when it became that we started

463
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: putting that in the pot. And that's what I'm saying

464
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: is we gotta we gotta look at again accountability, accountability,

465
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: We gotta look at the things that we've done to

466
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: the culch and the art that have turned it into

467
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: something deadly and turned it into something different, and we

468
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: got to start removing those things and get it back

469
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: to what it is. It's it's an art form. It's

470
00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: an expression, you know what I mean. It's like it's entertainment.

471
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, I'm really good at putting words together.

472
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: I'm really good at making music. Can I come and

473
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: perform this for y'all? Doesn't come out, I have a

474
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: good time, Let's come to Let's gather together at the

475
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: at the park, have a festival. Dot's gather at you know,

476
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: the arena, Let's whatever and have a good night. Everybody

477
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: get home safe. That's what you get off to say,

478
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: everybody come safe. Well, it's like that's what it's supposed

479
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: to be.

480
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 2: Just have a good time, and.

481
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: Then everybody go they separate, like it's just we add

482
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,199
Speaker 1: we and over the years it's like we've added too

483
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: many things into the pot, into the culture that have

484
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: turned it into an entirely different thing. And it's become

485
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 1: something it's become a recipe for disaster. It's become deadly,

486
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: it's become tragedy, it's become a lot of things other

487
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: than what it's intended in what it was supposed to

488
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: be from the jump, And we got to get back

489
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: to that. We gotta you know, it's a lot of

490
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: disrespect in the culture. It's a lot of egos, there's

491
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 1: a lot of just negative energy. It's just it's a

492
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: whole lot of things that we got to sit down

493
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: and have these conversations about because I'm telling you, we're

494
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: gonna wake up one day and it's going to become

495
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: something where it's like, bro, this is something and I

496
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: think it's aware already at that point. This is something

497
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 1: beyond beyond trauma. This is something beyond like there are

498
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: a lot of people that are never going to be

499
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 1: the same after losing takeoff.

500
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: Never quabos specifically, Like take.

501
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: It from somebody that has lost a brother the gun violence.

502
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: I know what it does to the family. I know

503
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: what it does. It's never life is never the same.

504
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: You never trust people the way you should. You look

505
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 1: at everybody differently, you become cold hearted, you become numb

506
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: to a lot of things. And we're not supposed to

507
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: be walking around like that. So we got to get

508
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 1: to we got to get to somewhere where we all

509
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: sit down and come together. And you know, I know

510
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 1: it's easier said than done, but it has to happen.

511
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean, that has to have a question of how

512
00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: does that happen? Not that I would have accountability or

513
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: or even expect anyone to have that answer.

514
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: It does comes from accountability. People got to understand what

515
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: they're doing and say, you know what, I'm not doing

516
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: that no more. I'm done with that. I'm not walking

517
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 1: around with that energy. I'm not approaching dudes in my culture.

518
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm not approaching dudes that look like me with this energy.

519
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: I'm not approaching you know, I'm not putting the bullshit

520
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: into the game like, I'm done with that, because I'm

521
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: telling you, bro, this is something that is supposed to

522
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: be beautiful. It's supposed to be fun, it's supposed to

523
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,080
Speaker 1: be a great time. You know, these dudes are making

524
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: more money than you know some people have ever seen

525
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: their lifetime taking care of their families and you know,

526
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,200
Speaker 1: traveling the world and and and you know, experience experiencing

527
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: different cultures and art and things like that, and and

528
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: then you you die before thirty. Like, that's not that's

529
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: not a bro, that's not That's not what this this, this,

530
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: this hip hop, this this culture is intended to be.

531
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: That's not what this is. Man. We've we've gotten so

532
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: far away from what this was supposed to be and

533
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: what this is. And again, you know, waking up and

534
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: losing losing our our our kings and you know, the

535
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: guys that we support and we love and we we

536
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 1: celebrate losing them like this. This is a this is

537
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: this is tragic, man.

538
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: Do you think uh? And again this isn't just take

539
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 2: off specific, but but to the check in point, do

540
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 2: you think there is a positive way to go about

541
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: that and change? I believe I don't know if it

542
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 2: was Uncle Luke, I forgot who it was that had said, Hey,

543
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: everyone can't just come to Miami and just go to

544
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 2: our clubs, fuck with the women, make money and not

545
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 2: help the community. At the same time, it wasn't a

546
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: check in, like, yo, you don't get robbed type of ship.

547
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: But it was a hey, if you're if you're gonna

548
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 2: come make money, enjoy, you know, give the resources of

549
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:48,479
Speaker 2: this beautiful city, give something back. Yeah, I think it's

550
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 2: some requirements because I think a lot of that would

551
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 2: do well if the community watched a lot of And

552
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,959
Speaker 2: this is not take off specific because I don't think

553
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: that has anything to do with what happened. But I

554
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: don't know if maybe that's a solution where that things

555
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: change as far as what you do in those cities

556
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 2: when you come and perform and make money there. As

557
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 2: far as getting.

558
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: Back, I'm not mad at giving back. I'm not mad

559
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,239
Speaker 1: at that. I'm not mad at you know, artists come

560
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: into a city and giving.

561
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 2: That's a nice checking that's different than extortion.

562
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's not paying a

563
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: lot of people can't afford. Sometimes people can't afford to

564
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: come to the garden and see you. Yeah, you know

565
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: what I mean. So I'm not mad at artists finding

566
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: a way to give back. But even in that, let

567
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: it just change the energy, Like, don't you know it

568
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 1: ain't got to be your check in. It's like because

569
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: now you know, as a man, you take offense to that,

570
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: and now you on defense.

571
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Now of course everybody's on edge.

572
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: You know, my homeboy he got a gun, he got

573
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: his hand on the gun, he got it. And it's like,

574
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 1: already the energy is turned into something different, and that's

575
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: we're ready at something different. Already before I even get

576
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: to the city. The energy is completely different now.

577
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 2: And even with that, like, yeah, you could change the

578
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 2: entire structure everything you have to account for impulse. You

579
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: could have everyone put the greatest structure ever in every

580
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: single city, with every single artist, every single person in

581
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: the community. You still have to factor in somebody being drunk,

582
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: somebody being upset, somebody already having trauma from something else

583
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: that triggers them to even want to be more in

584
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: the moment with that impulse. Because I again, just from

585
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: the videos we've seen, I know nothing that happened here.

586
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: A lot of that looked like impulse to me, happened

587
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:31,959
Speaker 2: just like that. You don't really have time to think

588
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: about shit, so you could put every That's why I

589
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: also really have nothing good or profound or things to

590
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: change here, because I just watched the situation where it

591
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 2: looked like a bunch of people just had crazy impulse.

592
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: I don't know how you I don't know how you

593
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 2: change that.

594
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: And again, you know, to just to go for what

595
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: you're saying. We only just saw that video.

596
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: We don't know that for sure.

597
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: We don't know how that night went. We don't know

598
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: what happened prior to that clip we saw.

599
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course not and and a lot of this conversation,

600
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: I've it's not all take off specifically, it's just.

601
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: It's just a culmination of just waking up to news

602
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: that we lost another yeah artist that we we we

603
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: love and we support and that you know, we listen

604
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 1: to and we champion. And that's that's the thing here,

605
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: Like we keep this. It's like like you said, it's

606
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: a cycle, and how does the cycle? And we have

607
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: to do something because it seems like, for whatever reason,

608
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: every time we end up here, it's the same I said,

609
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how many months ago, maybe a year

610
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: and a half ago, two years ago. This ain't gonna

611
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: be the last. Yeah, this is not going to be

612
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: the last one. We're gonna be right back to that.

613
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, the fact that I say that,

614
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: and I know that it's true, it won't be the last.

615
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: Is a problem. This is a problem. We should be

616
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: able to stop this immediately because we have the control.

617
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: We got to take accountability. I love my I love

618
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: my I love my culture. I'm from the streets. I

619
00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 1: grew up in one of the most dangerous hoods uptown.

620
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I've seen shit from a young age that, which is

621
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: why it deterred me. And I said, bro, that's the

622
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: end result. I'm cool. No, I'm not playing that game

623
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: because you just know, like I know how that goes,

624
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: but I'm not trying.

625
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: To be that.

626
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: So it's like, now we have to look at hip

627
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: hop that way, like I'm not gonna deal with that

628
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: because I know how that ends. Like that's insane, bro,

629
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: Like that is insane, Like it should not be that way, man.

630
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:32,479
Speaker 1: And you know, again, I know unfortunately the pain of

631
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: losing a family member to gun violence. So you know,

632
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: our deepest prayers and condolences to the family close friends.

633
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 4: Do you guys mind if I add something on real quick?

634
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: Of course, there's this thing that's been way to normalize

635
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 4: outside of just sadly rappers dying almost monthly. That's part

636
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 4: of the culture. But it's within social media, and that's

637
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 4: people just can't constantly sharing the violence. And I mean

638
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: that in the sense of like the actual visuals, yeah,

639
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 4: the photos, the videos.

640
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: That's the bodies. Again. I think that that's a result

641
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: of people becoming numb to it. I think that's a

642
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: result of people becoming like this is a normal thing.

643
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: I feel like, this is what I'm supposed to do

644
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: when this happens. Yeah, because this is what happens when

645
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: this happens.

646
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 4: I feel like people don't understand how much that really

647
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 4: fucks with their subconscious though. Oh absolutely, that really like

648
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 4: seeing visuals, that's I mean graceful. I didn't see that

649
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 4: at six in the morning. I saw the news at

650
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 4: six in the morning, but not an hour, not till

651
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: like an hour later. That came up with my feeding

652
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 4: me lely. That's not something I should be seeing at seven.

653
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: We're not supposed to see that. It literally don't. We

654
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: don't understand the imagery and how imagery changes us and

655
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: it affects us. We don't understand that, but it does.

656
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: Seeing a lifeless body like that, Yeah, seeing somebody bleeding

657
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: out like that, you know, seeing grown men breaking down

658
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: cry and screaming those things, those images you can't erase

659
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: from your mental like once you see it, you can't

660
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: unsee it. And then now, like I said, you walk

661
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: around and you look at people differently because you see

662
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: how you know people will act if your body is

663
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: laying there, like you're gonna just record me bleeding out.

664
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:21,280
Speaker 1: So now I'm looking at people like yo, you wouldn't

665
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: even you wouldn't even try. Your first thought would be

666
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: to record my lifeless body, so now my family will

667
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: see my lifeless body and see me dying. You would?

668
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: Are you one of those people that would actually do that?

669
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: So you're just now your energy where people becomes different,

670
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it's like and it

671
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: changes you because now you become cold and stand office

672
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: you don't even want to let people close to you

673
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,280
Speaker 1: and you don't want to let and then that trickles

674
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: into you know, intimate relationships with women and things like that,

675
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: and you become cold and certain, just like love because

676
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: you're likena, you don't really like, I see how people

677
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: act when you know, I know what you'll probably do

678
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: if this happens. We don't understand how that changes us,

679
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: and that affects us mentally. And that's what I'm saying

680
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: is it's at a dangerous, dangerous point now because again,

681
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:09,240
Speaker 1: this is becoming it's scary that this has becomeing normal.

682
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know how much we'll ever be

683
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: able to change the timeline quote unquote as far as

684
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 2: like people sharing that, because that's just a different monster, right.

685
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 2: I think it's sicker when these platforms, these large, large platforms,

686
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,800
Speaker 2: not only share the video, but when you click the link.

687
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: It was a geico ad before m h, it was

688
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 2: a geico ad when I had clicked, not not even

689
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: knowing video of him passing away, just just clicking like, oh,

690
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: take off has passed away. I clicked the link. The

691
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 2: first thing that popped up was a gico ad to then,

692
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 2: which I exited out immediately once I saw. I couldn't

693
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 2: even I just saw legs. I was like, I can't

694
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 2: watch this, and I'm not better than is my just

695
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 2: my own personal gut and what I can take. I'm

696
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: not on a moral high ground of anyone else.

697
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 3: But.

698
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: I could not get out of my head that I had.

699
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: I waited twenty five seconds and watched a geico ad

700
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: before I watched a dead body and see in this

701
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: like I'm never like those fucking Twitter accounts with no

702
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 2: av sharing that shit. I don't think there's ever gonna

703
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: be a solution that that's the Internet that's gonna exist

704
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 2: for fucking ever. This isn't even a shot at Geico,

705
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: because I'm sure Geico just told that site, hey, we're

706
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 2: gonna give you some money we want to and that

707
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: Geico ad just happen to end up like your Mond,

708
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 2: like it's really being monetized. I can't say, and you

709
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 2: know what's crazy. I don't know if I sound like

710
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 2: a hypocrite right now because we're talking about a death

711
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: and we're monetizing right now. Again, there's gonna be an

712
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 2: ad on this YouTube shit, and I don't know how

713
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: to feel. That's why I'm not on a better or

714
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: higher moral high ground than anyone. I'm somebody that's really

715
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 2: trying to figure this shit out and starting to realize

716
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: that anytime this shit happens, it's gonna get the biggest

717
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: clicks and I'm gonna make some money. It makes me

718
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: not even want to fucking talk about the shit, right,

719
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 2: But then you're wrong, Like I almost was sitting there

720
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: like I don't want to talk. After that, Geico ad

721
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,760
Speaker 2: that shit sat with me for two days. I was like, damn,

722
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: I was well, I was thinking about calling you and

723
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 2: being like, how would we look if we didn't talk

724
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 2: about takeoff? Because because I make money off this podcast,

725
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: the fuck this and even and even of course we

726
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: all agree like it's sick that all these platforms keep

727
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: posting the shit. I feel like that's become a new

728
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 2: way to get views too. It's starting to be like, yo,

729
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: everyone stopped sharing the shit. Now you look like the cool,

730
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 2: fucking moral person. But listen, I'm being a hypocrite right now.

731
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: We'll make money off this shit. I just don't know

732
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: how much longer I can like take it. It's but

733
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 2: that's the world goes around that way. I guess yeah,

734
00:38:56,960 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop watching the news. Do I blame

735
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 2: the news? I don't know. Everyone has. I feel like

736
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,800
Speaker 2: on the internet has taken the stand even though they're hypocrites.

737
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys, now, I don't know. It feels

738
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: fucked up the more it happens to me.

739
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: And that was you know, I'm glad you said that

740
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: because that is something that I thought about, like I

741
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: didn't want to talk about it. I didn't want to,

742
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: you know, seem like it was the thing to do

743
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: to just jump on it and know that people would

744
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: want to listen and hear. But again, man, it's and

745
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: you know, I just I just I'm just trying to

746
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: put the word out, yeah, to our listeners and our supporters, like,

747
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: we have to do something in our communities. We have

748
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: to take accountability. We control everything, we control it if

749
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: we remove these egos and change these frequencies that we

750
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 1: walk around with, change how we just talk to each other,

751
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: change how we just treat each other. It has to

752
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: start somewhere. And I'm just offering what I believe. It's

753
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: my just good heart, Like, yo, bro, we have to

754
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: change something because this this has gone way, way further

755
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: than I think anybody has anticipated. And again it's like

756
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: you said, you know, now you're monetizing off of showing

757
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: a lifeless body, you know, or or talking about a

758
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: lifeless body, or paying respects to a lifeless body. And

759
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I just don't you know, I don't have

760
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: all the answers. I'm not the smartest man in the world.

761
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: I see, right, I do see both sides. I'm not

762
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,799
Speaker 2: one of those people that anytime someone passes, and they

763
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: even do like the flashback clip and all that, where

764
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, fuck you. I do think some people legitimately

765
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 2: just do that for Monza, they really take advantage of that.

766
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: But I mean, you did make me feel better how

767
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 2: you started this pod and everything you were talking about,

768
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: and obviously coming from experience of losing a love on

769
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 2: that way. I just the whole day before y'all came here,

770
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: I was like, what can I tell the listeners that

771
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: they don't one already know and there's gonna be no

772
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 2: one listening to me and my report of this or

773
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: my point of view that's gonna stop what they were

774
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: about to do or look at shit different, like oh

775
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: if Rory told me that, so maybe gun violence should stop,

776
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: Like I just know that that's not true. So I

777
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 2: felt like I couldn't even take the grounds of well,

778
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to say positive things now for the listeners.

779
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 2: I think they're not gonna look at me and be like, wow,

780
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: we're not gonna have any gun violence because Rory said it.

781
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 4: Like, I think you're just on your one more voice,

782
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: you know, and I think you're an important voice as

783
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 4: long as as well as you maul both of your

784
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: very important voices. And to hear these important voices, you know,

785
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 4: take a second to acknowledge the wrong that went on

786
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 4: and the reality. And I guess even the hypocal, the

787
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: hypocritical moments, it normalizes the fact that we could talk

788
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: about this, look into it, and move on for the better.

789
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: But okay, I feel you. That sounds good, Ma. How

790
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 2: many of these conversations that we.

791
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 4: Had too much, too many?

792
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: Has anything changed?

793
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: And this is what I'm saying. I've said it two

794
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: years ago that it wasn't going to be the last

795
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 1: when we were talking about whoever passed away. At that moment,

796
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:20,760
Speaker 1: I said, this is not going to be the last.

797
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: It's unfortunate, but it's it's real and it's honest. And

798
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: here we are two years later, and I'm saying it again.

799
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,360
Speaker 1: This won't Unfortunately, tragically, this will not be the last

800
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: time that we wake up to this type of news.

801
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: And again, man, something has to change. Man, we have.

802
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: I've seen the things that we've taken and have made

803
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: change too. I've seen it. So I believe that we

804
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: can take this problem of us waking up to this,

805
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: this tragic reality of losing you know, these these artists

806
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 1: are such young ages from our from our from our communities,

807
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: from our inner cities, from you know, I'm from New York.

808
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: But when I say our communities, being from New York

809
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 1: City and being from Atlanta, I know how they live.

810
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:18,760
Speaker 1: We live the same in New York City.

811
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 2: I do.

812
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm not from I'm not from Atlanta, Georgia, but I

813
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: can tell. Once I get there and I see, I'm like,

814
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I know how this is eight cousins in

815
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 1: one house. I know what that's about. You know, slept

816
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: in a breadth bad one bed with your brother. I

817
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: know what that's about. I'm not from the city, but

818
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: we the same. So we have to we.

819
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: We can change this thing.

820
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 1: I know we can. I know we can change this thing.

821
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I just don't know if as many people

822
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: care enough to change it. And that's the scary part.

823
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if if it bothers and effects as

824
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: many people as it did me. I never met I

825
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: never met a lot of these dudes that we've lost,

826
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: never met him, But waking up and hearing that we

827
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: lost them and how we lost them, it still affects me.

828
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 2: It's still hurt because.

829
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, Like we're from the same culture. You

830
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, We from the same inner cities,

831
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: were from the same upbringing, you know what I mean.

832
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: Like so it and I'm human, you know what I mean.

833
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: I have emo, I have feelings like I feel that, especially,

834
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: like I said, a lot of these kids are twenty eight,

835
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:32,479
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty six. I'm like, damn, I think about

836
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: it if that was me, if my story ended at

837
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: twenty eight, creating only a man, you know what I mean.

838
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: It's just again, the family is what I think about

839
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: because I know, unfortunately what this feeling is. I've been through,

840
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 1: I still go through every day I feel it, and

841
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: moments like this it just makes you. We live it,

842
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: and all I can do is offer prayers and condulences

843
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: and healing and strimp to the family because I know

844
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 1: the road that's ahead, I know the emotions that lie ahead,

845
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: I know the uncertainties that lie ahead. I know how

846
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 1: you just wake up after this and become a different

847
00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: person and don't even realize how it changed you. You

848
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, you're like, damn, I don't

849
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: even remember feeling like this. I don't even remember the

850
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: last time I felt like this, So I was really like,

851
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: you know, happy and smiled and really trusted somebody, like

852
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: I know how this is going to affect the family,

853
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: and it's unfortunate because you know it won't be the

854
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: last and that's the problem. And something just has to

855
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: something has to change, man, something something has because this

856
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: is not how it's supposed to go. I don't. I'm

857
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: not a believer that. Yes, I know everything happens for

858
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,919
Speaker 1: a reason. I know things that, but I believe that

859
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: we can change the reasons. I believe that we have

860
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,959
Speaker 1: that control, in that power to change why these things

861
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 1: happen and how these things happen and how it goes

862
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 1: like it's just it's this is not it, this is

863
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: not it. And I hate you know. I love my culture,

864
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: I love my people. I love being from the inner city.

865
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: I love being from the struggle, I love being from

866
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: the ghetto. I love being from the hood. But you know,

867
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: we got to change. We got to change our mentality,

868
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: we got to change our energy. We got to change

869
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 1: the way we interact and deal with each other and

870
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 1: the way we treat each other. This shit has to change.

871
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 1: I'm not sitting down waiting for some mythical person to

872
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 1: come in and fix everything, like, we have to fix this,

873
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: We have to change this. We've changed a lot of

874
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: other things. We've you know, generated billions of dollars for

875
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: other things. We need to make the change in ourselves

876
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: and our communities so that we can walk around with

877
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: a different energy. Respect each other, love each other, embrace

878
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: each other, help each other, you know, like this is

879
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,479
Speaker 1: you know, this is just this is sad, man, It's sad,

880
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 1: and unfortunately it won't be the last. Yeah, prayers to

881
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: the family, prayers to take off, prayers to the family.

882
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 2: Offset. Well, it's a quality control. Yeah, you know, it's

883
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 2: P and P and K.

884
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: It's gonna take. It's gonna take a while, man, it's

885
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: gonna take, you know. So it's a lot of healing.

886
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 2: I don't know where offset and uh and take off

887
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,719
Speaker 2: where relationship wise that you know, everything is rumor that

888
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 2: they were again again. I don't know, And and it's

889
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 2: it's not our business to begin with. Even how they

890
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 2: the three of them handled that entire thing. We we

891
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: all came on here and said we admired how quiet

892
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: they were about it, Like, hey, so what's going on?

893
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: This way, they family. At the end of the day,

894
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: they family, and things happen with family.

895
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 2: But either way they could have been on great terms.

896
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: It's still a tragedy. It's still and I know he's

897
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 2: feeling it even more because you know, they they the

898
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: three of them moved together everywhere and obviously take off

899
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: in Quaba to do this this press run, which no

900
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 2: matter what, whether your family or not, a press run

901
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: will keep y'all together for a month straight seeing each other.

902
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 2: And obviously we didn't see Offset with them there, so

903
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 2: that last month of his life. It's unfortunate that that

904
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: Offset wasn't around for that. So I'm sure as someone

905
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: that has been at odds with a best friend when

906
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,280
Speaker 2: they passed, it's it's a really really shitty feeling.

907
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and that's unfortunate that that's always just.

908
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: I know what that feels like. Yeah, and it's not

909
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 2: a good feeling at all, Like it really sucks.

910
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: So life is fragile, life is beautiful, So let's cherish it, man,

911
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: unless you know, if you can, you know, put things,

912
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: put the put the frivolous bullshit to the side, Uh,

913
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 1: you know, get past whatever is lingering. Have those conversations

914
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 1: and if you know you can't come to a point

915
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,800
Speaker 1: of respect and you know love, then you know, sometimes

916
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: you just have to leave it there and just hope

917
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: that you know, one day it it mends itself. But again, man,

918
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: blessings to the family of Kurse, Nick, Carrie Ball, prayers, healing, strength, guidance, love. Yeah,

919
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, from from my heart, just it just goes

920
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: out to the family because again I know, I know,

921
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: I know what this pain is and it's not easy.

922
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,520
Speaker 1: It's not going to be easy. I'm not gonna sit here.

923
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: It is not going to be easy. It's gonna hurt.

924
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: It's gonna always hurt. But again, just pray, pray and

925
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: move forward as best you can. Mourn, cry, grieve, you know,

926
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: do whatever it is that you have to do. But

927
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: just always, you know, keep love in your heart and

928
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:12,399
Speaker 1: keep God first, keep praying, and one day you'll look

929
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: up and and say, I didn't cry today, you know

930
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like life happens. It's funny like that

931
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: with these things. You look up one day and be like, oh,

932
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 1: haven't cried in two days, And you know it'll get better,

933
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 1: But it's gonna hurt, fever, it's gonna hurt fever so.

934
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 2: Peace, love and light.

935
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: To the family and to take off. Thank you, thank

936
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: you for coming our way, thank you for sharing your

937
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: heart with us. Grateful to have your words and your

938
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 1: voice and your music forever and rest peacefully, Man, Rest peacefully,

939
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: no worry.

940
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Speaker 2: And now