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Speaker 1: This is the Sean Hannity Show podcast. All right, it's

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Speaker 1: Indiana Primary Day. All eyes on the great Who's your state?

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Speaker 1: As Ted Cruz and Donald Trump battle it out, fifty

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Speaker 1: seven delegates at stake. It's winner take most, not winner

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Speaker 1: take all. The winner gets what thirty delegates and then

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Speaker 1: the rest of distributed to the winner of the district. Etcetera, etcetera,

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Speaker 1: all part of these very simple, non complicated rules that

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Speaker 1: are designed by politicians. Um, So that's all going down today. Look,

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Speaker 1: if um, I want to say a word about this,

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Speaker 1: and there was it's unfortunate that I think things are

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Speaker 1: getting pretty testy and ugly, and this kind of tends

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Speaker 1: to happen at the end of campaigns. It's not all

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Speaker 1: that unusual. I'll get to this, these comments by Senator

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Speaker 1: Cruz and and what precipitated them, and where this is

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Speaker 1: all going to end up, Because, as I've been saying

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Speaker 1: now for weeks on this program, if Republicans don't unite,

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Speaker 1: if you have more George Wills and Bill Crystals out there,

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Speaker 1: or if Senator Cruz decides not to endorse, if if

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump wins, or if Donald Trump had lost he

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Speaker 1: decided not to endorse cruis. None of it's gonna be good.

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Speaker 1: It's hard enough in a country where young people are

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Speaker 1: flocking to Bernie Sanders socialism, and demographics are shifting and

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Speaker 1: the country is shifting. Um, it's never going to be

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Speaker 1: an easy task. I think in the future, the foreseeable

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Speaker 1: future anyway, for a Republican to win the presidency, it's

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Speaker 1: just an uphill task. If you create a circular firing squad,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be that much tougher, if not impossible. And

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Speaker 1: I see emerging here a circular firing squad. Now if

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Speaker 1: you look at the polls. Now, I want to be

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Speaker 1: very clear on this. This is just my objective analysis

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Speaker 1: and what I am supposed to do. Give you my

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Speaker 1: take on what I see both Jamie Dupree, Jamie's been

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Speaker 1: sick the last a week or so, and we wish

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Speaker 1: him well, we miss him. Jamie Dupree and I have

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Speaker 1: been pretty dead on accurate throughout the entire process in

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Speaker 1: in predicting who's gonna win what state, when and where

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Speaker 1: and how it's going to happen, and what the margins

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Speaker 1: are going to be. So if you look at Indiana,

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Speaker 1: and in particular, I know this has been a wild ride,

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Speaker 1: a weird election cycle. It maybe unlike any you've ever

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Speaker 1: seen in your lifetime. Again, but predictions so far, our

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Speaker 1: predictions have been accurate. And if the polls or any

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Speaker 1: indication looks like Donald Trump will probably take the state

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Speaker 1: of Indiana tonight, and if he wins, I would expect

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Speaker 1: he's probably gonna win by double digits. And the question

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Speaker 1: then is does the exceed expectations or maybe it's closer

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Speaker 1: than what the polls showed, but either way, it's it's

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Speaker 1: probably a very big blow to the effort to stop

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Speaker 1: to get this thing to a contested convention. So because

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Speaker 1: right now, mathematically it's impossible for either Senator Cruz or

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Speaker 1: or Governor Kasi to get there. So we have to

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Speaker 1: see what the numbers are. We'll see if anybody, if

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Speaker 1: if anybody breaks the barrier on total votes and claim

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Speaker 1: at least fifty five and maybe even fifty seven of

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Speaker 1: Indiana's delegates. If Trump wins tonight, if he got all

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Speaker 1: fifty seven Indiana delegates, he would be a hundred and

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Speaker 1: eighty four short of the nomination. Now, let me do

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Speaker 1: simple math for you. He's going to win the state

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Speaker 1: of New Jersey, and that's winner take all. He's winning

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Speaker 1: by a large margin in West Virginia. I don't even

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Speaker 1: think anybody's going to contest him in West Virginia. He's

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Speaker 1: up now in the latest California poll by thirty four points,

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Speaker 1: and he's up in Oregon by double digits as well.

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Speaker 1: And one poll I saw, an internal poll from one

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Speaker 1: of the campaigns, it wasn't a Trump campaign, actually had

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Speaker 1: him up in Nebraska. So you know it's Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: just looking at simple math here, and that's why Indiana

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Speaker 1: tomorrow we'll talk about things like the late movement towards Trump.

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Speaker 1: What was it created by? How impactful was the Bobby

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Speaker 1: Knight endorsement, Was it more valuable to Trump and say

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Speaker 1: Mike Pence's endorsement, endorsement to Ted Cruz, the the choices

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Speaker 1: leading into Indiana, the Non Aggression Act with John Kasik,

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Speaker 1: the announcement of Carly Fiorinas as vice presidential nominee, Whether

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Speaker 1: hurt him. Henry Olson at the Ethics and Public Policy

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Speaker 1: Center said that Donald Trump will win Indiana so decisively

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Speaker 1: tonight that the Republican race will effectively be over. I

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Speaker 1: doubt that Senator Cruz or John cas are gonna buy

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Speaker 1: in California, and it's their right to do so at

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Speaker 1: that point. But I think that, you know, that's when

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Speaker 1: I'm not so sure if that's in the best interest

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Speaker 1: so people can stay in and see what that turns

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Speaker 1: out to be. UM. Certainly Ted Cruz, who did very

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Speaker 1: well in Wisconsin. You know, the question is is he

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Speaker 1: able now to transfer Wisconsin over to Indiana after six

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Speaker 1: big Trump victories in New York and in the five

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Speaker 1: I the only thing I'm gonna say, and I've said

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Speaker 1: this before, is it's very hard. And this is my

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Speaker 1: experience having interviewed presidents, I've interviewed vice presidents, I've interviewed candidates,

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Speaker 1: many of them over the years, I have developed a

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Speaker 1: very deep, deep appreciation for what it takes to be

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Speaker 1: a presidential candidate, in spite to the fact that it

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Speaker 1: naturally creates competition, and competition often becomes personal at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day. In the Republican side, it's supposed

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Speaker 1: But it's most people don't see it that way, especially

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Speaker 1: And I guess my fear is knowing and watching and

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Speaker 1: paying attention. Now I can interpret the Democratic race two ways.

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Speaker 1: I can say that, Wow, Hillary Clinton is weaker than

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Speaker 1: We have indoctrinated the next generation in this country to

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Speaker 1: believe in socialism and redistribution, and we've taught them that

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Speaker 1: should be provided by the government. That means their healthcare

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Speaker 1: that means daycare. They shouldn't have college loans. The government

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Speaker 1: But the scary part is is these kids believe this,

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Speaker 1: So for any Republican to win, it makes it that

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Speaker 1: that's why this exchange that went down between Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: a lot of this got started, he said. The Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: for example, had had talked about and mentioned apparently there

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Speaker 1: seen different versions. Some say no, some say yes. It

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Speaker 1: father now linked to JFK assassination, which is just absurd.

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Speaker 1: Now was he in the picture? I don't know the

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Speaker 1: Trump had mentioned it and that just set ted Cruz

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Speaker 1: the National Enquirer that went after my wife hiding that

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Speaker 1: he's exactly the kind of person Donald Trump looks down. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do something I haven't done for the entire campaign.

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Speaker 1: For those of you all who have traveled with me

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Speaker 1: This man is a pathological liar. He doesn't know the

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Speaker 1: that I think is straight out of a psychology textbook.

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Speaker 1: His response is to accuse everybody else of life. He

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Speaker 1: simply a mindless yell. Whatever he does, he accuses everyone

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Speaker 1: he combines it with being a narcissist. A narcissist at

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump is such a narcissist that Barack Obama looks

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Speaker 1: So as you can hear, things have just taken on

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Speaker 1: I just know how grueling it is, and people their

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Speaker 1: It's it's been over a year and a number of

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Speaker 1: considering he said them all along, at least in interviews

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Speaker 1: with me. Well, he said he said build the wall

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Speaker 1: all along, but then behind closed doors has said he

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Speaker 1: has no intention. So to me, it's just like I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure what he said to the New York Times. Look,

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Speaker 1: if you ask me if he's going to build the wall,

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Speaker 1: I would say it's almost a certainty. That's because if not,

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Speaker 1: he's a failure. He will be out of office faster

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Speaker 1: than you know, Jimmy Carter if he didn't build the wall.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think, I just I can't imagine a

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Speaker 1: scenario where he wouldn't. But you know, that's my best.

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Speaker 1: Guess does that make sense? I guess I just disagree.

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Speaker 1: That's all right. Well that's what this programs for. It's

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Speaker 1: if that's fine one Seawn, you want to be a

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Speaker 1: part of the program. Linda is in Siosset in New

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Speaker 1: York listening to the All New AM seven ten w

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Speaker 1: A R the voice of I saw. It's ironic that

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Speaker 1: Cruiz is saying all these things about Donald Trump today

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Speaker 1: because proofs as a politician. He's talking to us about

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Speaker 1: how he has the ability to unify the party, but

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Speaker 1: he's really just has the ability to convince people that

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Speaker 1: his goal is unification, while anyone who can count saw

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Speaker 1: that back in March. His goals has been towards the

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Speaker 1: contested convention. And to me, that's just spells chaos and

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Speaker 1: it's sills ununification, if that's the right word. Totally opposite

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Speaker 1: of unification. Look understand, in any election, especially primaries, where

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Speaker 1: normally we would be on probably all of these guys sides.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could make the case for most of

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Speaker 1: the seventeen candidates that they could all be good presidents.

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Speaker 1: It's the nature of a primary. It's the nature of

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Speaker 1: the contest itself. Two to sort of highlight the worst

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Speaker 1: possible position of your opponent and sort of downplay their strengths.

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Speaker 1: You want to you want to highlight whatever weaknesses you

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Speaker 1: perceive or or portray them in the worst possible light,

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Speaker 1: and never in the best possible light. It's the nature

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Speaker 1: of the business. So I kind of take that type

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Speaker 1: of rhetoric is sort of par for the course, and

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Speaker 1: it is in that sense. It's a bit of a game.

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Speaker 1: I think we have to be smarter than these cheap

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Speaker 1: ads that are run every year against a candidate. If

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Speaker 1: you elect so and so, this is gonna happen. Your

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Speaker 1: children are gonna die. I mean, you know, it's you

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Speaker 1: know what the adds are. I mean, you know what

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's gonna say. Whoever the Republican candidate is, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't at her that they're racist, they're sexist, there's a

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Speaker 1: gender war, etcetera, etcetera. That they want to throw granny

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Speaker 1: over the cliff. They'll have a Trump or Cruise look

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Speaker 1: alike taking poor grandma in a wheelchair and thrown over

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Speaker 1: the cliff. It is what it is. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: that it's been a while since crews could have won

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Speaker 1: this on the first go around and yet he only

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Speaker 1: really just started to admit that, you know, openly, very

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Speaker 1: very recently. I don't think that's being straightforward. Yeah, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm just just how do I say this? There's a

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Speaker 1: certain amount of dishonesty in the whole process. Does that

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Speaker 1: make sense? It's I don't like it, but I'm just

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Speaker 1: seeing it for what it is, having studied it all

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Speaker 1: of these years. Sure, just yeah, sure, I totally get that.

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Speaker 1: And I think there would have been more honor in

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Speaker 1: coming back and coming out with that goal and and

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Speaker 1: admitting to all this delegate stuff a real long time ago,

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Speaker 1: and rather than you know, having just learn it as

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Speaker 1: we all went along. Well, everybody knew about it all

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Speaker 1: the campaigns, or if they didn't know about it, they

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Speaker 1: should have known about it. But at this point we'll

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Speaker 1: know a lot more tonight. But if these polls hold

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Speaker 1: up for Trump and he wins Indiana and he's got

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Speaker 1: these huge leads in California, New Jersey, West, Virginia, and Oregon,

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Speaker 1: I just I don't even think that part is going

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Speaker 1: to be an issue after anybo it's really going to

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Speaker 1: be a boot point after after today or hopefully hopefully

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Speaker 1: we'll see I'm not making predictions if the polls are right.

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Speaker 1: The polls have Trump by a pretty significant lead, and

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Speaker 1: I would expect if if they hold up, that there

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Speaker 1: will be an early call on this tonight. All right,

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Speaker 1: back to our phones. Thank you, Lynda, appreciate it. Let

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Speaker 1: us say hi to Kevin in Westchester, New York. Also

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Speaker 1: listening to A M seven ten w o R the

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Speaker 1: Voice of New York. How are you good? Afternoon? Son?

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Speaker 1: What I'm about to say, and it's who to scare

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Speaker 1: your audience, but I'm hoping that it will scare your audience.

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Speaker 1: You're saying Hillary will be if she gets collected more

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Speaker 1: years of Obama. I don't look at it that way.

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Speaker 1: It's four more years of Hillary then follows another four

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Speaker 1: more years of Hillary. Then who follows Hillery the next

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Speaker 1: day years? I think it's going to be Chelsea does

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Speaker 1: American And does anybody have excuse me one second, does

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Speaker 1: anybody have the ambassador to Australia or New Zealand's number

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Speaker 1: handy if you know you're laying out a doomsday scenario.

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Speaker 1: Now I hate to say it, this, now this is true,

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Speaker 1: and this is why this is a pivotal election. There

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Speaker 1: is so much hanging in the balance. This country has

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Speaker 1: been in a rapid, precipitous decline militarily on our foreign policy,

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Speaker 1: our economic policy, and we're literally teetering on the brink here.

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Speaker 1: So it does scare me because it does come a

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Speaker 1: point where we become Greece. There does come a point

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Speaker 1: where we cannot fix or the damage that is done,

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Speaker 1: and then America, like every other country, is going to

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Speaker 1: pay a price. So your scenario is a little scary. Um.

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Speaker 1: I hope that's not the case. I hope people wake up.

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Speaker 1: But there there are a lot of people here that

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Speaker 1: believe in state is um, leftism, liberalism. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've always felt America was a center right country. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so anymore. I think we've now moved center

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Speaker 1: slightly left, and that does not bode well for winning

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Speaker 1: general elections period. Presidential election is possible, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: As a black female executive at the Trump Organization, I

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Speaker 1: can no longer remain silent about the repeated and reprehensible

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Speaker 1: attempts to align my boss and his family with racist

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Speaker 1: hate mongering groups, campaigns and messaging. As the daughter of

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Speaker 1: a man born in Birmingham, Alabama, who goes against all

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Speaker 1: odds to become one of the most established and respected

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Speaker 1: doctors at Yale University. There is no amount of money

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Speaker 1: in the world that could buy my loyalty to a

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Speaker 1: family that's the described as such intolerant and bigoted ideologies.

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Speaker 1: The Trump family that I knew, is without question one

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Speaker 1: of the most generous, compassionate, and philanthropic families I've ever

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Speaker 1: had the privilege of knowing and the honor to call friends.

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Speaker 1: They have been incredibly loyal to me and to the

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Speaker 1: countless dedicated people they employ around the world, hiring more

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Speaker 1: minority and female executives than any other company for which

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Speaker 1: I've ever worked. I do not vote based upon the

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Speaker 1: color of my skin more the signature on my paycheck.

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Speaker 1: I judge my friends enforce my allegiances from direct personal

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Speaker 1: interaction and moral character. That said, there is no higher

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Speaker 1: parometer by which to measure oneself than the one continually

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Speaker 1: set by this family and their spouses, And I should know,

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Speaker 1: like many Americans, I have struggled with substance abuse and addiction.

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Speaker 1: The Trump family has stood by me through immensely difficult

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Speaker 1: times without hesitation or concerned for their own reputation. By association.

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Speaker 1: They continue to trust me with every aspect of their

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Speaker 1: lives and the lives of their families. They invade me

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Speaker 1: into their poems and welcome me at their family gatherings.

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Speaker 1: For the past six years, I have held an executive

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Speaker 1: position as it pertains to the distribution of their charitable funds,

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Speaker 1: and they have charged me to identify worthy an altruistic missions.

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Speaker 1: And could not be more uncles. This is the Trump

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Speaker 1: family that I know, all right. That is Lynn Patton

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Speaker 1: and she works for Mr. Trump. She happens to be

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Speaker 1: a Black American and she put together a long five

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Speaker 1: minute I think it was five minute, uh YouTube video

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Speaker 1: that has now begun to go viral defending her boss

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Speaker 1: against allegations that have been made against him in the campaign. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: welcome back laden with us our to Sean Hannity Show.

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Speaker 1: It's Indiana primary day and joining us now is the

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Speaker 1: leading Republican contender for the presidency, the front runner, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: How are you, sir? Hi? And that was so beautiful

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Speaker 1: from Lynn. I hadn't heard that. I was just listening

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Speaker 1: to it on your show, and that is beautiful. You

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Speaker 1: have got you have got to watch this. And she

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Speaker 1: did not apparently seek anybody's permission, and she put this

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Speaker 1: together and it's somebody I guess that you not only

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Speaker 1: have hired, but helped in your life. And she just

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Speaker 1: felt compelled to do it. I guess because I don't know.

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Speaker 1: She feels you've been great to her. She's an incredible person.

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Speaker 1: But I had no idea and I'm just listening to it.

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Speaker 1: Was that a video or was that it's a video?

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Speaker 1: It's on YouTube. I'll send uh, I would make sure

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Speaker 1: I send the link. She's so amazing. Boy, that isn't

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Speaker 1: that nice? That's a nice? Well, you don't get a lot.

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Speaker 1: You don't get to say it wasn't that nice? A

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Speaker 1: lot during campaigns, do you. I'm used to negative ads

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Speaker 1: all the time, phony negative ads that were put up

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Speaker 1: my Club for Growth who asked me for a million

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Speaker 1: When I said no, then they started doing negative ads.

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable. What do you think about Ted Cruz just

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Speaker 1: went off on you today? Sure you've heard it, and

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Speaker 1: I think your campaign actually sent out a statement about it.

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Speaker 1: What is your reaction to it? Well, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: losing so badly and he can't take losses, he and

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Speaker 1: handle pressure, and he's not good under pressure. I've watched

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Speaker 1: the studing debates and everything else, and uh, he is unhinged.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's totally unhinged. And this all started on

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Speaker 1: Fox and Friends. I did the show and they they

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Speaker 1: showed me something, Brian and Steve and you know the group,

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Speaker 1: they showed me something that was frankly, you know, I

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Speaker 1: felt inappropriate said by the father and I think it was.

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Speaker 1: I think most people agree with me. And then in

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Speaker 1: the meantime, as you know, there was a picture a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago and it was all over the place

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Speaker 1: about Lee Harvey Oswald and his father a few months before?

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Speaker 1: Was that verified? Everyone? Something? The you know, it was

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Speaker 1: a it was a picture put in and they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: put it in if they could be suited that I

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Speaker 1: can tell you. They're very big professionals, and it was

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Speaker 1: put in. And by the way, and Ted Crews, I

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Speaker 1: don't think, denied it at the news conference, but they

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Speaker 1: don't do things unless it can be verified. But if

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Speaker 1: that were true, what was he doing having breakfast or

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Speaker 1: whatever they were doing three months before the JFK assassination.

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Speaker 1: Why are they doing that? Why? Why is the father

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Speaker 1: meeting with Lee Harvey Oswald. You know, I have no

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Speaker 1: idea because I've seen it, but I never thought it

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Speaker 1: was going anywhere. I don't know the truth or veracity

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Speaker 1: of it. But let me let me move on to

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Speaker 1: some important issues here Indiana. UM, if you go back

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Speaker 1: about two weeks ago, you were down eight. The latest

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Speaker 1: polls have you and double digits real clear politics average.

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Speaker 1: What changed in Indiana? Well, I think the fact that

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Speaker 1: I went out there and campaigned. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of friends in Indiana, but I went out to Indiana.

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Speaker 1: I campaigned hard. That people are incredible people, and I

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Speaker 1: had many, many stops, and uh, it's you know, I

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Speaker 1: gave a speech last night that was so well received,

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Speaker 1: but I gave three yesterday, and I gave you know

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Speaker 1: many over the last couple of weeks. And I think

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Speaker 1: they got to know me and they know I'm going

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Speaker 1: to bring back jobs. And you know, the carrier deal

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Speaker 1: as a disaster. They're losing tremendous amounts of manufacturing and

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Speaker 1: and cruise and people like that never bring it back.

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Speaker 1: First of all, they're taken care of by the special

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Speaker 1: interest groups. They're all bought and paid for, and they're

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Speaker 1: taken care of by special interest in everything else, So

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Speaker 1: they're never gonna bring it back, whereas I'll bring back

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Speaker 1: the jobs and I'll keep the jobs that that states have.

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Speaker 1: You know that our states have, and that includes Indiana.

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Speaker 1: But you look at what happened with Carrier, the way

645
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Speaker 1: they viciously left Indiana, and you know that won't happen

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Speaker 1: with me at the top that I can tell you, you

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Speaker 1: you even think that you might be able to get

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Speaker 1: Carrier to come back, because it's gonna hurt them financially.

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Speaker 1: In other words, they want to go build their their

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Speaker 1: plant in Mexico. Ford is going to do that, build

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Speaker 1: a plant in Mexico, and then they want to be

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Speaker 1: able to bring their cars back to the United States

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Speaker 1: after using all the cheap labor down there. And those

654
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Speaker 1: are American jobs that are walking right out the door.

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Speaker 1: And it's it's beyond frustrating to me. And I think

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Speaker 1: in part government has caused this because government has taxed

657
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Speaker 1: business into oblivion and they both and they've incentivized businesses

658
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Speaker 1: to try and find ways to do things like this.

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Speaker 1: But there's got to be a better answer. But you'

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Speaker 1: out of a company is going to leave a state

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Speaker 1: like Indiana, great state, the company is gonna leave a

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Speaker 1: state like Indiana, then there are consequences, okay, are they're

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Speaker 1: gonna move to Mexico. Not if they're gonna move to

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Speaker 1: another state, but if they're gonna move to Mexico, their consequences.

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Speaker 1: And the consequences are that in order to sell their

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Speaker 1: units into the United States, they've got to pay tax.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise we're gonna lose every company we have and they're

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Speaker 1: gonna pay tax, and the United States is going to

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Speaker 1: either make a lot of money or the company is

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Speaker 1: not gonna move. Now, a lot of the companies won't move.

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Speaker 1: If I went to Carrier like before they made their

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Speaker 1: decision and still probably not too late, and I said, look,

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Speaker 1: it's wonderful that you're gonna move. Enjoy the nice hot

674
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Speaker 1: weather and all of that stuff. But here's the story.

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Speaker 1: You're leaving a great state, Indiana, and if you leave,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna charge you thirty on every air conditioning set

677
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Speaker 1: that you every air conditioner that you put in unit

678
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: that you put into this country, we're gonna charge you. Okay,

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00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: they will not even leave Sean okay, because it throws

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Speaker 1: off everything. They won't even leave. We won't even lose

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Speaker 1: his companies anywhere. Nabiscos leaving, Ford is leaving. We have

682
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Speaker 1: so many companies that are leaving, many from Mexico. Now

683
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Speaker 1: then you have the other alternative, which China is just

684
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Speaker 1: taking our jobs. Okay, they're just taking our jobs. But

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Speaker 1: it can all be stopped, and it's so easy, and

686
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Speaker 1: a politician can't do it. They don't they don't have

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Speaker 1: the ability, and many of them are paid off by

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Speaker 1: campaign contributions. You know, I wanted to ask you, let's

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Speaker 1: let's go to the state of the campaign. If you

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Speaker 1: win Indiana, for example, if you've got all fifty seven

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Speaker 1: delegates tonight, the winner of the state gets thirty, then

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Speaker 1: it's sort of winner take Most, not winter take all.

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Speaker 1: But so you could get as many as fifty seven.

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Speaker 1: If you do, you'd be a hundred and eighty four

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Speaker 1: delegates short. You still have Ted Cruz and John Kasik

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Speaker 1: in the race. They appear to be whatever reason, well,

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00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: mathematically they can't get to twelve thirty seven, but they're

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Speaker 1: stating very publicly their job is to stop you at

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Speaker 1: any cost, and so they're not ridiculous. And yesterday they

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Speaker 1: came out with the pole rescues and that beating Hillary Clinton.

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Speaker 1: You're up by three yard cruise can't Peter, and Case

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Speaker 1: it can't either once they start with negative ads on

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Speaker 1: Case that he cannot win, can't win. Now, when you

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Speaker 1: get to this point, and I've looked at recent polls,

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Speaker 1: you have numbers that look really good. In Oregon, you're

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00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: up by thirty four points. In California, you're up in

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Speaker 1: West Virginia, you'll win New Jersey, and you know, and

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Speaker 1: then I've even saw one pole that you were up

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Speaker 1: in Nebraska. So I'm really not sure what the purpose

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Speaker 1: is except to cause this unity in the party. How

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Speaker 1: do you unite a party now that it appears if

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Speaker 1: you win tonight that you would get again A lot

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00:38:36,120 --> 00:38:38,240
Speaker 1: is hinging on tonight. But if you win Indiana tonight,

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Speaker 1: as the polls suggest, how do you unite these people

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Speaker 1: that are quote never Trump or anti Trump. Well, Sean,

716
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: everybody is calling people that I cannot even believe, or

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00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: calling because they said such horrible things. They're all calling

718
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: and they want to come onto the they call it

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Speaker 1: the Trump train, right, but they want to come onto

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Speaker 1: the team. And in fact, one of them, I said

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Speaker 1: to him, an important person, I said, you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: honored to have your support, But how can you do

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Speaker 1: that after what you said? And they said, no problem,

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Speaker 1: they're a politician, no problem. I could just switch my politicians.

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Speaker 1: That's what they do, they talk. It was no problem.

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Speaker 1: It was sort of amazing to me. But they're already

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Speaker 1: coming on. Look the other way. They'll be the first

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Speaker 1: minute if you become president, the first minute that you're

729
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: in trouble, they'll be the first people to turn on you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: those are usually they're the last in and the first

731
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Speaker 1: to turn the last in in the first ound whatever.

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Speaker 1: It benefits them, right, you know you and I've I've

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Speaker 1: interviewed you many times. And the thing that concerns me

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Speaker 1: the most and why I think this is a really

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Speaker 1: important election for this country because I don't know if

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Speaker 1: if if Hillary gets the White House, we have a

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Speaker 1: third Obama turn. I don't know if we ever get

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Speaker 1: to the point where we can fix things. You know,

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Speaker 1: we have one in four American families were not a

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Speaker 1: single member of the families in the workforce because they

741
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Speaker 1: can't get jobs. That's million Americans out of the labor force.

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Speaker 1: We're letting go over desperate. And by the way, if

743
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Speaker 1: Transpacific Partnership is signed. It's gonna make NAPTA look like

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Speaker 1: a baby. NAFTA has destroyed our country. It has destroyed

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Speaker 1: our manufacturing, it has taken away jobs. And it was

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Speaker 1: signed by Bill Clinton, by the way, well, and a

747
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Speaker 1: lot of Republicans supported it too, But he was You

748
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: gave this foreign policy speech. You even used the teleprompter

749
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Speaker 1: or I know you don't. Really you generally don't ever

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Speaker 1: even have notes. From what I can recall, and I've

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Speaker 1: watched to give a lot of your your rally speeches,

752
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Speaker 1: et cetera. They seem to be extemporaneous. But you wanted

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00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: to lay out a very important foreign policy and the

754
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: main or the crux of it or the main point

755
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 1: of it was, We've got to put America first because

756
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: America's crumbling and other people need to step up, and

757
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: they basically have. We have allowed ourselves to pay for

758
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Speaker 1: everything in many ways. Militarily, we take care of other countries.

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Speaker 1: We don't get properly reimbursed with the with the leastmen

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00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: of the world, the countries, all of these places are

761
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Speaker 1: absolutely taking advantage of us. I mean, we are taking

762
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Speaker 1: care of the military needs of countries and protecting them,

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Speaker 1: and we are not properly reimbursed. And in fact, many

764
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Speaker 1: of the people, if you look at NATO, many of

765
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Speaker 1: the people are just disregarding their agreements with us, and

766
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Speaker 1: then I'll pay in their fair share. So if you

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Speaker 1: get the nomination, you're the only one that now has

768
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Speaker 1: this path tonight. You if you win, you're over a thousand.

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Speaker 1: You may be as few as less than two d

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Speaker 1: to go. And then when do you turn your attention

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Speaker 1: to Hillary Clinton? Very soon? Because if I win tonight,

772
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Speaker 1: and I hope I do, I mean, who knows, but

773
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Speaker 1: if I do, uh, you know, it would be a

774
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Speaker 1: great honor. I spent a lot of time there, and

775
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Speaker 1: I have so many friends in Indiana. But if I

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00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: win tonight, it's over. It's over. And you know, you

777
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: have two people. They're stubborn, and you know they want

778
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Speaker 1: to maybe keep going. But you sold my response to crews.

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Speaker 1: I guess you saw what I said in terms of

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Speaker 1: you know, so it's it's crazy. Well, I mean, you know,

781
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: what they said is very nasty. But when you look

782
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: at somebody who's so unhinged under pressure, does he even

783
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 1: have the temperament to be president? The answer is perhaps not.

784
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about how hard you think a general election

785
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Speaker 1: campaign will be. You look, if if you get the nomination,

786
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: you will have beaten seventeen big names in the Republican Party. Seventeen.

787
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Speaker 1: You know, we're talking about governors and senators, people that

788
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 1: are supposed to be professionals. You've been in politics less

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00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: than a year, So it's what have you learned from

790
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: the process, first of all, and then how do you pivot?

791
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 1: And how do you think have you built in your

792
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: mind of strategy tactics to take on Hillary. I have.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to necessarily reveal it. You know, it's

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00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: sort of like I say, I want to be unpredictable

795
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Speaker 1: in the military. They said, no, no, tell us exactly

796
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: how are you going to be When are you going

797
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: to bomb? Iis? What day? And what time of the

798
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: day when you start bombing? Isis? And are you going

799
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Speaker 1: after the headquarters? Mr Trump? I mean all of these

800
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Speaker 1: things that Obama answers. Oh, it's so sad when you say,

801
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 1: but I will tell you I will beat Hillary. You

802
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: see the pole coming out the rest of you. It

803
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: was a great poll and others too. I've had numerous

804
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: good falls coming out because people are starting to hear

805
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: my message, and once they hear my message, there's no

806
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 1: way they can go for crooked Hillary Clinton. And you

807
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: know she's crooked, and there's no way they can go.

808
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: And that's your nickname, and it's a sad nickname, but

809
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: it's true. You just have to look at what she's

810
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: done and we'll see what happens. But remember this, they

811
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: see the message. I'm going to bring back jobs, We're

812
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,440
Speaker 1: gonna have a strong military, We're gonna get rid of ice.

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00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: Its got to get rid of them. And I was

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Speaker 1: against the warn I WREQ, as you know, but I

815
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Speaker 1: was against the warn I WREQ going to destabilize them

816
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 1: at least, but we have to get rid of ices.

817
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Speaker 1: They made a mistake and the wreck of terrible mistake

818
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: going there, and a terrible mistake showing the way they

819
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Speaker 1: got out. And I know you talked about that a lot.

820
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: The way Obama got out of that war was a disaster.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask this last question, and we gotta let

822
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Speaker 1: you go because you voting now ends in just a

823
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: couple of hours. We'll be on Tender midnight tonight. What

824
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: does Donald Trump get Melanie a Trump form other's day?

825
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: What do you get her? Well, you know, I told

826
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Speaker 1: her that she's the greatest and she's going to be

827
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: a great first lady. But you have to give me

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Speaker 1: a little more time because I have been all over.

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Speaker 1: You've been busy. Maybe after Tuesday you'll have some time

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Speaker 1: time because I just well, Mother's days not till Sunday.

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Speaker 1: You've got five days. You're good, That's true. I just

832
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: got back. I literally just got back. I'm sitting on

833
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: my desk and I have got a pile of papers.

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Speaker 1: It's a mile high. Mr Trump, Thank you as always

835
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Speaker 1: appreciate it, thank you very much on thank you. The

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Speaker 1: only thing that it feels to me is what Bryan's

837
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: previous the attacks has a dumb idea, which is giving

838
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: the American people a better choice than Hillary Clinton and

839
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: Donald Trump if Trump is the Republican nominee, which I

840
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: agree looks increasingly likely. Not a dune deal. I think

841
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: in independent candasy is totally doable. I think it will happen.

842
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: The ballot access problems are not in Super Bowl. There

843
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: tuesdays coming up on the filing deadlines. Texas, North Carolina,

844
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Speaker 1: every other state. No other states filing deadlines before June

845
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Speaker 1: twenties seven. You couldn't wait till the convention. You'd have

846
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Speaker 1: to decide after Indiana, possibly after California. I think there

847
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: will be legal challenges and in North Carolina that the

848
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: deadlines are too early. In the eighties, five states will

849
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: successfully challenged in federal court for having such early filing deadlines.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the patriotic Americans are

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Speaker 1: going to look at this choice and every raging from

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Speaker 1: activists to donors to possible candidates, and say the country

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Speaker 1: deserves better than a Clinton Trump choice. Well, let's take

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Speaker 1: Jim Madisons. Happens to be a social liberal. He's more

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Speaker 1: liberal than I am. He's very concerned about the debt.

856
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Speaker 1: He's a strong national security hawk. Why wouldn't someone he hasn't. Well,

857
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Speaker 1: he's participating in the process. You'll have I mean, he

858
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Speaker 1: will be. There will be a riot in Cleveland. Step back,

859
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Speaker 1: step back. I'm saying, if Trump is the Republican nominee,

860
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Speaker 1: the laws permit independent candidates the petition to get on

861
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Speaker 1: the ballot. It has happened nine billion votes. Jim Maddis

862
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Speaker 1: or John Kelly or many other people. Sure, let's bring

863
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Speaker 1: in a third party candidate and guarantee Hillary wins. And

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Speaker 1: of course references what I discussed yesterday, and that is

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Speaker 1: George Will's column where he says, oh, Republicans, you need

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Speaker 1: to unite and stop Trump from winning all fifty states.

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Speaker 1: And there's Bill Crystal suggesting that, in fact, a third

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Speaker 1: party candidate. Oh, that'd be great. Frank Leans is with us.

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Speaker 1: We just had Donald Trump on How are you, sir?

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Speaker 1: I'm fine. You know. I'm looking at the polls because

871
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Speaker 1: it's my job, and I'm watching over the last two

872
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Speaker 1: weeks as it becomes more and more clear that Trump

873
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: is going to be the nominee. I've watched these numbers

874
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Speaker 1: start to close between him and Hillary Clifton, and I

875
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Speaker 1: find it fascinating that at the moment that it looks

876
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Speaker 1: like we've got a different direction, at that moment is

877
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Speaker 1: when some of these people are talking about a third

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Speaker 1: party campaign. Sean, I don't get it. What do you

879
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 1: think We've been saying from the very beginning that this

880
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: year is an insurgency year. That's obvious, but also that

881
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 1: Trump defies conventional political gravity. Now, you would probably at

882
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: different moments in this campaign, would throw your arms up

883
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Speaker 1: in the air. A matter of fact, I remember, actually

884
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Speaker 1: even after the first debate, you know you you made

885
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Speaker 1: some statements so he can't say things like this is

886
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Speaker 1: as outrageous, and here he is on the verge of

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Speaker 1: becoming the nominee. What makes this different? I think that

888
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Speaker 1: the Republicans are beginning to coalesce. And obviously we're going

889
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: to know more in a few hours, but I think

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00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: the Republicans are beginning to coalesce. And the one thing

891
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Speaker 1: that unites Republicans and independence, conservatives and moderates people from

892
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Speaker 1: New York to California is that they don't want Hillary Clinton.

893
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Speaker 1: And as that comes into focus, that is the organizing

894
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Speaker 1: principle behind all of this. If you want the same

895
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Speaker 1: eight years for the next eight years, then vote either

896
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Speaker 1: independent or vote Faillery Clinton. But have you had enough?

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Speaker 1: You believe in four percent economic growth, if you believe

898
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Speaker 1: in lower taxes, then then there is only one candidate

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Speaker 1: that will bring that to you, and Sean, that's the

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Speaker 1: key going forward. Does Donald pump talked tonight out Hillary

901
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Speaker 1: Clinton or does he continue on his anti cruise. I

902
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Speaker 1: don't even I don't even think it's gonna be close.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think if he wins, and if the

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Speaker 1: polls turn out to be right, he'd win by a

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Speaker 1: pretty healthy margin. And if he does, then I think

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Speaker 1: he pivots. I mean only and look, I'm just looking

907
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Speaker 1: at math here. Some people that support Ted Cruz, you know,

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Speaker 1: obviously don't want Trump to get to twelve thirty seven.

909
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Speaker 1: But Trump is gonna win New Jersey. It's a fact.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna win the majority of delegates in West Virginia.

911
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: He's up by thirty four points in California. And if

912
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Speaker 1: you just add those three states and you know he's there.

913
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Speaker 1: He's up in Oregon, he's up in Nebraska. So it

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Speaker 1: seems to me that he has a pretty clear path now.

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Speaker 1: And I don't expect that either CASI or a cruise

916
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Speaker 1: will get out at this point. But um, you know,

917
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Speaker 1: things got really off the rails earlier today. Cruiz was

918
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Speaker 1: furious with Trump. Trump had mentioned that the cruises father.

919
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Speaker 1: I guess i'd been Senior Lee Harvey Oswald. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I've never gotten the veracity of that whole thing. View

921
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Speaker 1: I don't, But I have to say, Sean that there's

922
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Speaker 1: that there is the issue of discipline and that Trump

923
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Speaker 1: should be focused on Hillary Clinton at this point. Talking

924
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Speaker 1: about JFK and Lee Harvey Oswald and somebody's they're all

925
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Speaker 1: unnecessary and they're all distractions, and that if you want

926
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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton left defeated, then you've got to focus on

927
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Speaker 1: where she is weak and not bring up all these

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Speaker 1: other points. And I think this is in our polling,

929
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Speaker 1: in our focus groups, that is the biggest question that

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Speaker 1: they ask of Donald Trump. Can you stay focused? Are

931
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Speaker 1: you disciplined? Are you going to train? But you don't

932
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Speaker 1: expect him. You don't expect him not to go after

933
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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton in the same manner that he went after

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Speaker 1: Bush and Rubio and and Ted Cruz and and Scott

935
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Speaker 1: Walker and every other candidate that was in this race.

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Speaker 1: You wouldn't expect him to change, would you. I would

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Speaker 1: agree with that. But you know what, it's we're actually

938
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Speaker 1: now in to make and she's been beating up on

939
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Speaker 1: Trump now for six weeks and he's barely said anything

940
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Speaker 1: about her. It's time to pivot and pivot, meaning it's

941
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Speaker 1: now him versus Hillary, him versas Hillery. And there are

942
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Speaker 1: three areas Sean that that I believe she is particularly weak.

943
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Speaker 1: Number one, of course, is the veracity of the integrity.

944
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Speaker 1: That's obvious. Number two is that she really is out

945
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Speaker 1: of touch with hard working tax players, that she really

946
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Speaker 1: doesn't know the lives that they need, so she never has.

947
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Speaker 1: And third is that she will actually truly say anything

948
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Speaker 1: she has to to get elected. We all know the

949
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Speaker 1: integrity one. I don't think that's going to move people,

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Speaker 1: even though that people are frustrated with it. What moves

951
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Speaker 1: people is the idea that she doesn't get the average

952
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Speaker 1: American and that she will tell people anything or do anything.

953
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Speaker 1: So is crooked Hillary the best name for her? You know,

954
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Speaker 1: I've been thinking about that. Uh, and it's crooked Clinton.

955
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Speaker 1: You've gotta have the same sound. It's better than all.

956
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Speaker 1: But it's been lying ted and and you know little Marco,

957
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: I mean crooked crooked Hillary. I mean it's the same

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Speaker 1: thing if you were going to advise. I don't think

959
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Speaker 1: it's gonna make a difference. I think it's the message

960
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: is gonna get out. Um, if you had to predict

961
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: who would be the best team, who would be the

962
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Speaker 1: best Vpece election for him to team up with the

963
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Speaker 1: defeat Hillary, no Republican can wayne. It's the best question

964
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Speaker 1: of all and no Republicans can win without Florida, Ohio

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Speaker 1: Rubio or Rubio Kaseck and I know your listeners will

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Speaker 1: kill me for saying that, but this is if it's

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00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 1: about winning, then you have to bring those two states in.

968
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Speaker 1: And Rubio and Kak are the two best. Well, you

969
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: can only pick one of them. He can't pick two

970
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: unless he made one the secretary of State. Well, then

971
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Speaker 1: I'm going with the one that's more conservative, and I'm

972
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: going with the one that's that spends the time that

973
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: understand the national security issue, not just you're going with Rubio.

974
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Speaker 1: I go with Rubio. Yes, interesting, there's a problem with that.

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Speaker 1: Let me ask you this question, because this may be

976
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: out of the box. What do you think about New Gingrich.

977
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 1: I think he's the brightest. New King Ridge is the

978
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: smartest guy's ever worked for exactly one even close, not

979
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: even close? So why not him? Because I'm nervous and

980
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: he doesn't look seven three, but I believe he is.

981
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Speaker 1: And I'm nervous about his age and nervous about what

982
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,320
Speaker 1: others would say although he's still younger than Bernie Sanders.

983
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: The truth is Abraham Lincoln is younger than Bernie Sanders.

984
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,280
Speaker 1: I would love to see New Kingdridge hund the debate stage.

985
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: He's the best that there has been in our lifetime.

986
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: But he's also the guy that balanced the budget the

987
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: last time. He's actually a guy that reformed government. I mean,

988
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: there were two transformational, real conservative movements in the country,

989
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 1: the Reagan Revolution and nuts Contract with America. You know

990
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,560
Speaker 1: the other thing that I would like And I've told

991
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: us to o Ryan the times that I've had them

992
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: on the show. I think the Republican Party needs to

993
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: hit the reset button because everyone's so piste off at

994
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: them because they've broken so many promises. And I think

995
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 1: the best way to do that is is to have

996
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: something like a Contract with America, put it down on paper,

997
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: signed their darn name to it, and then go fight

998
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: for it. I mean, the reason people are so frustrated,

999
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: and I think it opened the door for Donald Trump

1000
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: and frankly Ted Cruz to do well this years because

1001
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: Republicans have been weak and timid and feckless and lacking

1002
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: vision and they've broken all those promises and people feel betrayed.

1003
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: And it shows up in every eggs of poll, after

1004
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: every every state votes. People feel betrayed. It's a national

1005
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: obsession there. They feel that Republicans and I'm one of them,

1006
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: have let them down. Go back to your interviews you

1007
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 1: and I used to do ten twelve months ago, and

1008
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: you'll you'll hear that was the word that we came

1009
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: up with before the very first date to describe how

1010
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: Americans felt towards Washington in general and the Republicans in particular.

1011
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 1: But stay on that new idea, because Trump brings business

1012
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:07,919
Speaker 1: experience and an international understanding, Newton brings Washington experience as

1013
00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: well as he's been in the private sector for the

1014
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: last almost twenty years. That actually, that's a very interesting pairing.

1015
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,800
Speaker 1: You've got the guy who's tough and take no prisoners

1016
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: paired up with the guy who intellectually knows more than

1017
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: probably any one except for the Library Congress. Putting the

1018
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: two of them together would be a fascinating comparison, a

1019
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: fascinating team against whomever Clinton chooses, because she truly is

1020
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Speaker 1: the most So who would she likely choose? That She's

1021
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: going to wait for the Republicans to choose, So would

1022
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: she choose? So I think she's going to choose somebody

1023
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: like like Tim Kane, Senator from Virginia, former governor, former

1024
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee chairman, but a total insider. Governor Hickinglerport

1025
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,799
Speaker 1: of Colorado to term governor. I think it's I think

1026
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Speaker 1: she'll look for someone would leg slave of experience, uh

1027
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:05,719
Speaker 1: more than any other position. Dangwich has got that, but

1028
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Speaker 1: nobody has his brain. Do you think in other words, Look,

1029
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Speaker 1: he was a hard driving speaker, but he also got

1030
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Speaker 1: more done in Washington than anybody in modern day. Do

1031
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,359
Speaker 1: you think they start bringing up every old new controversy

1032
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,359
Speaker 1: and that sticks. I think it would fall on deaf

1033
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: ears myself. Well, here's the thing. It's stuck when he ran.

1034
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: But we're in a different age. Donald Trump has changed

1035
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: politics as we know. It will never be uh, it

1036
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: will never be the same. And Trump has changed those standards.

1037
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Speaker 1: And so I think this is a better environment for

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Speaker 1: Ganglish than any other. I just I think it's a

1039
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Speaker 1: very bright idea. So I've persuaded you. I've been able

1040
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: to flip you. Um, But you know, you've got this

1041
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: other team out there, people successful governors like Rick Perry

1042
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Speaker 1: and Bobby Jendal. You have senators like Rubio. I'm not

1043
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Speaker 1: sure Ted Cruz at the end of this is going

1044
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: to want anything to do with Trump if Trump wins.

1045
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: But I mean then you've got you know, Scott Walker

1046
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Speaker 1: and Kasik and Nicky Haley and all these other people.

1047
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:01,479
Speaker 1: You've got a deep and she got Rudy Julianni sitting

1048
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: out there. I think he would be great as either

1049
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Speaker 1: attorney general or head of the Department of Homeland Security

1050
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Speaker 1: or Chris Christie can prosecute Hillary as attorney general, that

1051
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Speaker 1: would be a good thing. Then you just gave a

1052
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Speaker 1: potential strategy for them, which is to bring everyone together,

1053
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 1: to put them all on the bus and take throughout

1054
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Speaker 1: all the swing states. And this is an essence between

1055
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Speaker 1: the team. I would put nine mayors, governors, senators, and

1056
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Speaker 1: congressmen in essence, you feel the baseball team. But they're

1057
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Speaker 1: going to have to campaign together. And this is important.

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Speaker 1: Shot You and I this one ver we do disagree.

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Speaker 1: I do think killer Clinton is most likely going to

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Speaker 1: get elected because of the fact that she'll do whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes. And I think she's going to be helped

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Speaker 1: by people who report the news and people who I

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Speaker 1: don't know why you think I think otherwise. I keep

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Speaker 1: telling people that anyone that tells you that this election

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Speaker 1: is going to be easy or over is out of

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Speaker 1: their mind. I think the country has moved a lot

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Speaker 1: further to the left than we know. I think that

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Speaker 1: Hillary starts with scent of the vote. And I think

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Speaker 1: if you look at states like for Jay and you

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Speaker 1: you mentioned in Ohio and Florida and other states, you know,

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Speaker 1: for Republicans to win, they've either got to reconfigure the

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Speaker 1: the electoral map or they've got to win those states.

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Speaker 1: And then some want to give you statistics that out

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Speaker 1: to frighten you, and hopefully we can do a segment

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Speaker 1: on it. Thanks, Frank, I always bring you on for

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Speaker 1: the good news. I really appreciate great news. Go ahead, No,

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Speaker 1: this is the worst of all. We asked young people

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Speaker 1: eighteen twenty nine, which system, which economic system you preferred?

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Speaker 1: Comun capitalism, cons capitalism, socialism. Now that's what Hillary is offering,

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Speaker 1: That's what Obama offered. What did I just say? I

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Speaker 1: just said that the country has moved to the left,

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Speaker 1: and we have, unfortunately, we have become Europe and America's

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Speaker 1: in decline. And the idea of actually becoming fiscally responsible

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00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: before it becomes a crisis like Greece doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be in the minds of a lot of young people.

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Speaker 1: So either they're going to vote for their own demise

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Speaker 1: or we'll get the country back on track. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be one way or the other, but it is a

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Speaker 1: it's it's certainly an election that is going to be consequential,

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Speaker 1: There's no doubt. So what do you say the odds

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Speaker 1: are Hillary wins. If you wanted me to bet on

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Speaker 1: Trump at this point, and we can track this month

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00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: by month, you'd have to give me four dollars for

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Speaker 1: everyone that I would bet on Trump. So I would

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Speaker 1: give her four to one odds of winning, which is

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Speaker 1: which is slightly above what they have her in the

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Speaker 1: British betting system. And then if you ask me what

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Speaker 1: the spread would be if the electoral held today, I'd

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Speaker 1: give it about a seven point spread. And we can

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Speaker 1: follow this between now on election. Thanks frank you're full

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Speaker 1: of great news. Get out of here. You're driving me.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to bring in Coulter on just as

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Speaker 1: an antidote to this depressing Franklin's interview. But look, I

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00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: actually think frank is uh is warning us this is

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00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 1: out there. The mindset of the country, especially young people,

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00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: have shifted dramatically and they want what Bernie Sanders is offering.

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Speaker 1: That's why I did so well. But I still think

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Speaker 1: Hillary is a weak and flawed kennidate. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: something I haven't done for the entire campaign, for those

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Speaker 1: of you, all who have traveled with me all across

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Speaker 1: the country. I'm gonna tell you what I really think

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Speaker 1: of Donald Trump. This man is a path at logical liar.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't know the difference between truth and lies. He

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Speaker 1: lies practically every word that comes out of his mouth,

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Speaker 1: and in a pattern that I think is straight out

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Speaker 1: of a psychology textbook. His response is to accuse everybody

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00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: else of line. He accuses everybody on that debate stage

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Speaker 1: of lying, and it's simply a mindless yell. Whatever he does,

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Speaker 1: he accuses everyone else of doing. The man cannot tell

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Speaker 1: the truth, but he combines it with being a narcissist,

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Speaker 1: a narcissist at a level I don't think this country

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Speaker 1: has ever seen. Donald Trump is such a narcissist that

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama looks at him and goes to, what's your problem?

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Speaker 1: Everything in Donald's world is about And he combines being

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Speaker 1: a pathological liar. And I say pathological because I actually

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00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 1: think Donald, if you huck hooked him up to a

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Speaker 1: light detector test, he could say one thing in the morning,

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Speaker 1: one thing at noon, and one thing in the evening,

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Speaker 1: all contradictory, and he passed the lie detector test each time.

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Speaker 1: Whatever lie he's telling it that minute, he believes it.

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Speaker 1: But the man is utterly a moral all right. That

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Speaker 1: was of course Ted Crewe. Who's going well, I guess

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Speaker 1: just unbridled against Donald Trump today? This Indiana primary day

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Speaker 1: for one, Shawn is a toll free telephone number. You

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of this extravaganza, joining us

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Speaker 1: now New York Times bestselling author and uh a friend

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Speaker 1: of mine and culture? How are you fine? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: How are you? You have been probably from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: the strongest voice in support of Donald Trump if he

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01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 1: wins Indiana. If he wins, yes, well tell us why

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: what did you see in Donald Durley that that other

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01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: people didn't see? It was that Mexican rapist speech. I've

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01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:43,200
Speaker 1: been waiting twenty years for some politician UM to to

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01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: talk about illegal immigration. Thus Adios America, which Trump read,

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01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: bless his soul. Um I had tried to voice the

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Speaker 1: immigration issue on several candidates running for president this year.

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: Who shall go unnamed um either in in in short

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: harangus or long hours long harangues, and nobody else picked

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01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,000
Speaker 1: it up. Nobody else picked it up. No. Trump just

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01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: saw me being interviewed. The only interview I did before

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Speaker 1: my interview with you, Sean Um the week before the

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Speaker 1: book came out, when I was down in Miami and

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: had that interview with Jorge Ramos. Um. It instantly went viral,

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Speaker 1: and I was on my way to the Miami airport

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01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,480
Speaker 1: to fly up to New York and do your interview

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01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: Trump Trump's office, Um requested that a copy be overnighted

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01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: to him. Two weeks later, he gave his announcement speech,

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Speaker 1: and there it was just laying it out strongly. The wall,

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Speaker 1: the crime, the the the the sexual crimes which no

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Speaker 1: one had talked about until until Adios America. These are

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Speaker 1: different cultures were bringing in. I will admit, Um it

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Speaker 1: took me a week to say he's gonna be the

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Speaker 1: nominee and he's going to be the president, because, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've been betrayed so many times on the

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Speaker 1: immigration an issue, so many times, um, you know, by Rubio,

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Speaker 1: by Bush, by all of them, by by the entire

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Speaker 1: Republican Congress that we elected in in two thousand and fourteen,

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Speaker 1: with Mitch McConnell and the rest of them promising, give

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Speaker 1: us a majority, we will block Obama's executive amnesty. They

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Speaker 1: get into office, they fund Obama's executive amnesty. It's happened

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Speaker 1: so many times, and I just thought, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's not a politician Trump, so he's making this horrible

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Speaker 1: mistake of telling the truth. But when the media attacks him,

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01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 1: he's going to back down, and that's gonna hurt us.

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Speaker 1: Um Hilariously, I didn't know that Trump doesn't back down.

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Speaker 1: A week later, I saw he wasn't backing down. His

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01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: candidacy was had already cost him, you know, a hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars in lost endorsements, and he was still going strong.

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Speaker 1: And I realized that this is the candidate we've been

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Speaker 1: waiting for, which is why I really, I really have

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01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: no time for people who complain about, um, oh he's

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01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: gruff or he uses coarse language. I wrote a column

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Speaker 1: about it, um titled I was hoping for a taller,

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01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:10,479
Speaker 1: honest man. This is everything we've been waiting for. That no, no, well,

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Speaker 1: no one other than Jeff Sessions would say for decades now,

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Speaker 1: and I knew that is what Americans wanted to hear.

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01:03:17,400 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a real leader and he won't

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Speaker 1: back down despite hysterical attacks from all quarters. What do

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01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: you say to those people that? And I've interviewed him

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Speaker 1: a whole variety of times that I really think I've

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 1: gotten to know his positions deeply. But there are many

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Speaker 1: conservatives angry at you, disappointed at you, and even many

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01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: angry at me as angry as I am at them. Well, okay,

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01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: fair enough, But what do you say to them when

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01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: they say he's not conservative? Um? I don't know what

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Speaker 1: if they're they're conceiving of as conservative. We're about to

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Speaker 1: lose America. UM. I don't care about conservatism. I care

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Speaker 1: about this country and it's gonna be gone soon again.

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Speaker 1: As described in Adios America, we are at the tipping point.

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Speaker 1: We have Democrats gloating about about the brilliance of Teddy

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01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: Kennedy's nineteen sixty five immigration acts by bringing in millions

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Speaker 1: of third worlders, people who were never brought in at

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Speaker 1: the at this at this level, um pre nineteen seventy

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01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: or pre the nineteen sixty five acts, um. These post

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy immigrants are voting eight to two for the Democrats,

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01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 1: they laugh about it, um roy to Shara and Patrick Ready,

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01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 1: big Democrats, UM calling it George McGovern's revenge. The entire

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01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: country is about to go the way of California. If

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Speaker 1: you don't understand the national question that this is the

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Speaker 1: tipping point for this country, UM, then then you're the

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Speaker 1: enemy right now. That isn't conservative. You know, good luck

1212
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Speaker 1: with your little entitlements reforms and getting Roe v. Wade

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Speaker 1: overturned when you're being outvoted by foreigners. Only Trump sees that.

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Speaker 1: And just you know, he's one thing that has been

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Speaker 1: absolutely consistent in his life. I mean, for most of

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01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: most of his life he was a billionaire developer. He

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: was making pop off UM some things that were not conservative,

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01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, sixteen twenty years ago. Often UM. One thing

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Speaker 1: that's been absolutely consistent about Trump if you look through

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Speaker 1: his history, something I've also written about, UM, and that

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Speaker 1: is his his great love for ordinary Americans, for the

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Speaker 1: working class, for you know, the taxi drivers. That that

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Speaker 1: woman with the Georgia farm that had just been foreclosed

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Speaker 1: on and her husband, or was about to be foreclosed on,

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01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:37,959
Speaker 1: her husband committed suicide for the insurance money to save

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Speaker 1: the family farm. He just saw that story on tv

1227
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Speaker 1: UM and started a big campaign, saved the family farm,

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01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: brought her and her family up, UM, raised millions dollars.

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01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,000
Speaker 1: Um brought her and her family up to Trump Tower

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Speaker 1: for Christmas to celebrate and burn the mortgage in the

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Speaker 1: lobby of Trump Towers. And at the time, what was

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01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: the quote he gave to the media. Our government gives

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Speaker 1: millions of dollars to foreign farmers, but we can't help

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Speaker 1: our own farmers. He has always cared about Americans first.

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Speaker 1: It's very strange having this this this, this this New

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,720
Speaker 1: York Manhattan. You know, fancy billionaire who cares more about

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01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: ordinary people than his fellow fancy billionaires in Manhattan. Let

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Speaker 1: me ask this because there is a very different I mean,

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01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 1: there is this belief and I'm there as well, is

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Speaker 1: that America has been suckered by a lot of these

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Speaker 1: other countries, that America has taken on two big a

1242
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Speaker 1: role as the world's policeman, that we can't even win

1243
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,000
Speaker 1: wars anymore because they always get politicized and we end

1244
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: up pulling out after losing thousands of American lives and

1245
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,479
Speaker 1: and look like idiots because we don't finish the job. Ever,

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Speaker 1: hence Muscle and Ramadi and Felucia to create recently, and Iraq,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. And and then before that

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Speaker 1: Vietnam and and all these men die. And the question

1249
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 1: is we have all these problems at home? Um, what's

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Speaker 1: wrong with an America? Can first foreign policy for a while,

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01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: until we balance our budget, get million Americans out of work.

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Speaker 1: Just did you see the statistic the other day there's

1253
01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 1: of American families have nobody in the family working there,

1254
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:15,959
Speaker 1: But we have illegal immigrants working in this country, many

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Speaker 1: of the millions of them. No, that's right, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Whenever these jobs reports come out, Um, this guy Ed Rubinstein,

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Speaker 1: an economist, does you know quick little analysis and determines

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01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 1: that you know, once again of the new jobs went

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Speaker 1: to immigrants. Um. No, that isn't helping the people who

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Speaker 1: already live here. This isn't you know, This isn't a

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Speaker 1: racist thing, an ethnic thing. It's we have to take

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Speaker 1: care of the people who already live here. That includes

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Speaker 1: immigrants who came in, you know, ten years ago, twenty

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Speaker 1: years ago. Um, it includes Hispanics, Chinese, includes everyone. But

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01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: we have to take care of our own people. First,

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Speaker 1: we can't be we can't be the welfare ward of

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Speaker 1: the world. And you know the Democrats who because they

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Speaker 1: don't care what happened, and frankly a lot of them

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Speaker 1: just hate historic America. They just hate it. They hate

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Speaker 1: the military, they hate the country. They love to see

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Speaker 1: America being overwhelmed and disappearing. Um, and Republicans have just

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Speaker 1: been wandering around like Elmer Fudd. And we have to

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Speaker 1: concentrate on the Hispanic vote. And apparently the only way

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Speaker 1: they think they can get the Hispanic vote is by

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Speaker 1: legalizing millions more. UM will know that. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: Trump has shown, I knew this was true. I put

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Speaker 1: it in Adios America Hispanic Americans or as they call themselves, Americans. Um.

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Speaker 1: They don't need more competition, even the ones who have

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Speaker 1: come recently, they like their wages to go up. It's

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Speaker 1: the rich who wants who want people to come in

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Speaker 1: and compete for their landscaper's job. They don't want anybody

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Speaker 1: competing for their jobs. Yeah, let me ask, how do

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Speaker 1: you think if Donald Trump wins Indiana tonight, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: clear he gets the nomination, if he gets the non nation,

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Speaker 1: how certain are you that he can win the general election. Um. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've been certain he's going to get the nomination in

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Speaker 1: the presidency again. Since one week after the Mexican rapist speech,

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Speaker 1: Americans have been burning with anger. They hate both parties.

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Speaker 1: In Washington, if anything, they hate Republicans more. They are

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Speaker 1: dying to vote. About all these Republicans though, But hang on,

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Speaker 1: you see the never Trump crowd. You read George Will's

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Speaker 1: column yesterday talking, Yeah, there will be five thousand pundits

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Speaker 1: in Washington and Washington the Washington d C. Area who

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Speaker 1: may sit on their hands and sit it out. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, sixty thousand Democrats switch their registration to Republican

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Speaker 1: to vote for Trump. In Massachusetts, twenty Democrats switched their

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Speaker 1: registration to Republican to vote for Trump. I also wrote

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Speaker 1: a column about that, going through the states, the many,

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Speaker 1: many paths to victory Trump has you have um this?

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Speaker 1: You know, um citical genius Stuart Stevens who managed to

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Speaker 1: lose the campaign for an attractive Republican like Mitt Romney,

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Speaker 1: um claiming that Nope, nope, there're no more white votes.

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Speaker 1: He can't get white votes. Oh and by the way,

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Speaker 1: I do think Trump is going to get a higher

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Speaker 1: percentage of black and Hispanic vote UM than than Romney

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Speaker 1: or McCain. But putting that aside, just looking at how

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Speaker 1: he crushes it is with the white working class. And

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Speaker 1: Stuart Stevens keeps saying no more white votes. Romney got

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Speaker 1: more of the white vote than even Ronald Reagan. Well

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Speaker 1: point one, he's looking at the national white vote. Romney

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Speaker 1: actually lost the white vote, uh to Obama, or nearly

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Speaker 1: lost it, didn't didn't meet his national average in ten

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Speaker 1: huge states, big Midwest industrial states, in Maine, in Massachusetts,

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Speaker 1: in Michigan, um in Illinois, in in all very important states.

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Speaker 1: And I'm just talking about Oh. Also another thing with

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Speaker 1: Reagan and his white vote. Um, remember who was running

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Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty, John Anderson. That was on white people

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Speaker 1: voting for Anderson. Well, okay that and and also you

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01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: had a lot of Democrats back in nineteen eighty who

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Speaker 1: were conservatives, Um, the southern Democrats who were voting for Reagan. Um.

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Speaker 1: I haven't even talked about about Florida. I'm assuming if

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Speaker 1: he just you know, flips, I don't know a handful

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Speaker 1: of half dozen states that he can flip pretty much

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Speaker 1: exclusively with the white working class vote pennsylvan or at

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Speaker 1: least puts him in play even places like New York, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Iowa, Wisconsin,

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Speaker 1: Maine and incidentally, who who won Maine? And uh, um,

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Speaker 1: let's see what year would that be? Um, when did

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Speaker 1: Parole run Parole one Maine? Yes, I think Trump is

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Speaker 1: going to do well in a state that Parobe beat Bushy.

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Speaker 1: And alright, because we're we're running out of time, who

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Speaker 1: do you who would you like to see him pick

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Speaker 1: as VP? Um? Well, one thing, you don't have to

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Speaker 1: care about geographic considerations. Um, why not think he's going

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Speaker 1: to reconfigure the map? Well, it's that's sort of that's

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: an idea. The only reason I mentioned that is I

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01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: always hear people talking about, you know, geographic areas. That's

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Speaker 1: been thrown out the window for about twenty years now.

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01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: It used to be that, Um, local media was was

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01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,120
Speaker 1: more important for now you know, a national media country.

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Speaker 1: Um Clinton had gore to southern states, UM, Bush had

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Speaker 1: Cheney Wyoming. So so put that out of your head.

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Speaker 1: What needs balancing is more, Um, we don't need a

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01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: wild eyed bomb thrower. We got that and the guy

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01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,839
Speaker 1: at the top of the ticket Um, we do need someone.

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: The most important factor, having said what doesn't matter, the

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01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 1: most important factor that does matter is it's got to

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01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 1: be someone who is rock solid on immigration because if

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Speaker 1: it isn't, Donald Trump is going to be impeached. So

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Speaker 1: it can't see somebody that makes the establishment happy. It

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01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: has to be some one. I mean one I've recommended,

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01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: but I actually think he should run. I n s

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01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,719
Speaker 1: is a magnificent Chris Koback Um, Secretary of State of

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Speaker 1: of of Kansas. He wrote e Verify, He wrote the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Law. If he were the vice president, Um, the

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01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,800
Speaker 1: Democrats and the Republicans would be playing for Trump's health

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01:13:18,520 --> 01:13:20,760
Speaker 1: and culture. We always love having you on. She did

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01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 1: write the book bestseller, Adios America. It's in bookstores still.

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Speaker 1: And thanks for being with us two. Always love having you.

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Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, Sean, by bye. All right.

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Speaker 1: Loew in Michigan is with us. Lou Hi, how are you?

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Speaker 1: Apparently you disagree with me on something I said? By

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Speaker 1: the way I saw you last November, came to Troy, Michigan,

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Speaker 1: and you laid out a format for the kind of

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Speaker 1: archetypical UH presidential candidate that would be an UH establishment

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Speaker 1: outsider individual, and you stayed with that theme. And I

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Speaker 1: just don't understand why so many folks believe that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump is that guy. I mean, you liked the guy

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Speaker 1: that we're talking about my conservative solution, Well, hang on

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Speaker 1: name for you know what I mean. I mean Ted

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Speaker 1: Cruz pushed back. It's been his life pushing back against

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Speaker 1: the establishment um and the thing that bothered me about

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Speaker 1: Donald which I love a lot of the things he says,

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Speaker 1: of course, but what has he done recently to make

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Speaker 1: me believe him? Is how I answered. You know, I

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Speaker 1: asked that question, and I think, my gosh, as soon

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Speaker 1: as he got in trouble there, or thought he was

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Speaker 1: in trouble in Iowa, he was pandering to the ethanol

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Speaker 1: lobby and the sugar lobby in Florida, I just, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't you think we should be what I guess what

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you is why is it that he seems

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Speaker 1: to get a pass on having lived a life of

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01:14:35,479 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: kind of crony capitalism, and then I'm suddenly supposed to

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01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: believe that, you know what I mean, he said he's

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Speaker 1: on our side. Now he's not been, he's not been

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Speaker 1: a politician. So I mean I guess that's part of

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01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:49,759
Speaker 1: the problem. And comments that he's that seemed to be

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Speaker 1: popular in the the YouTube and on the media now

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01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: about interviews that he gave years ago on the Howard

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Speaker 1: Stern Show, as if that reflects where his real political

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Speaker 1: opinions are. I have asked him the question many times

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Speaker 1: about Okay, you took advantage of the system. He goes, well,

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Speaker 1: that's my point. I go, I know how to play

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Speaker 1: the system. You have to do it if you're in business,

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01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,920
Speaker 1: if you want to keep your buildings going up and

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01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: your workers working, and and you want to keep the

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Speaker 1: machine running. He goes, but I know the system. The

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Speaker 1: system is corrupt, and I know how to fix the system.

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Speaker 1: So you either it really comes down to whether you

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Speaker 1: believe him or not. I mean, you either believe he's

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Speaker 1: gonna build the wall. Ted Cruz does not believe he'll

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Speaker 1: build the wall. I actually think he would. Um you

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Speaker 1: believe him when he says he wants to be energy

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01:15:30,439 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: independent or not you believe him that he wants to

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01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,400
Speaker 1: bring education back to the States and let local school

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Speaker 1: districts decide, or not you believe that he really does

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01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: like the Penny plan or not. You believe he really

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Speaker 1: wants to eliminate Obamacare and replace it with free market

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01:15:44,240 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: competition and health savings accounts or not. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: can't vouch for what's inside any of these candidates hearts.

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Speaker 1: I can only tell you what they've told me, and

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Speaker 1: I can explain that in detail, because I've interviewed him

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Speaker 1: a lot like he did. He did say that. I

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01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,600
Speaker 1: have asked him at least five times he said it.

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Speaker 1: He said it in the one he said it once,

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Speaker 1: and it's been repeated ever since. I said, whoa. And

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01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 1: then his answer to me, take it for what it's worth,

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Speaker 1: I'm giving it to you was that works for them,

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Speaker 1: it would never work here, and he said what I

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Speaker 1: was saying is, and then he went into his explanation

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Speaker 1: with remarket competition. He said all of these things to me,

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Speaker 1: I can pull it. Remarket competition, uh, buying across state lines,

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Speaker 1: portability and and and healthcare savings accounts. That's what he

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01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:33,040
Speaker 1: said more often than the one time that he said

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Speaker 1: the Canadian system, which yeah, I agree that alarm bells

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01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: went off in my head too, I said what. So

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Speaker 1: I've asked him about it at least five or ten

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Speaker 1: times we're him to do the right thing, don't you

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Speaker 1: think if look, if he wins in the Anna tonight,

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Speaker 1: I think he's pretty much close to getting it. He

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Speaker 1: has it, because then you got New Jersey. He's gonna

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Speaker 1: win New Jersey's gonna win West Virginia or majority there,

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01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 1: and he's up by thirty four in California. Do the

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01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: math at this point, it then becomes a simple mathematical problem.

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Speaker 1: But you're right about any politician. You know. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have a problem when John Bayner became Speaker, but I

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01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,679
Speaker 1: didn't have a problem a couple of years ago saying

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Speaker 1: he needs to go because he wasn't doing his job

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01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:12,680
Speaker 1: and he was accumulating debt, and he was afraid of

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Speaker 1: his own shadow and he had no vision. That goes

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Speaker 1: for anybody that gets in the public office. A lot

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01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,040
Speaker 1: of people go in there and say a lot of things,

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Speaker 1: and then they don't keep their promises. It's really our

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: job not to go away on election day, but to

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01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: hold them accountable. And I think the reason that you

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01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:29,759
Speaker 1: see sixty of Republicans and these exit poles feeling betrayed

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01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: is because they were betrayed and they get it. And

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01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 1: that's why this has become the year it's become. So Look,

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Speaker 1: I'm not anybody's special pleader here. You you have to

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01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:42,919
Speaker 1: decide for yourself whether or not you think a candidate

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01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,920
Speaker 1: is honest and true and it is going to accomplish

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01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: the things that they're saying. That that that's something per

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01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 1: deeply personal. But I'm just giving you. I'm giving them

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01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,360
Speaker 1: and and throw them a voice to you to hear

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01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: what they're promising. Does that make sense? I just don't

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01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:01,000
Speaker 1: like that Baynor and McConnell are not supporting Trump. I

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01:18:01,040 --> 01:18:03,920
Speaker 1: just don't trust those crew, So I just don't trust him.

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01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: I just really think I think I think Bayner's just

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01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:10,880
Speaker 1: bitter and wants to be relevant again. You know, I

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01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 1: have no idea what his relationship with Donald Trump is.

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01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,360
Speaker 1: It sounds like they played golf once. That's That's how

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Speaker 1: I'm interpreting it. But John Bayner is not the speaker

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01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: is irrelevant at this point. I didn't like what he

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Speaker 1: said about Ted Cruz. I thought it was nasty and

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Speaker 1: vicious and typical of something I would expect from him. Frankly,

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Speaker 1: all right, I gotta move on. Eight nine for one.

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Speaker 1: Shawn Jim is in Montana Jim, Hey, how are you

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Speaker 1: glad you called? Hey, Sean, I appreciate you ticking the

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Speaker 1: call of Dan. I just would tell you, I just

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Speaker 1: appreciate the way you handled things. You do a fantastic job. Hey.

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Speaker 1: One thing and the last fellow was a Cruise. Uh

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Speaker 1: supported I would support Cruise in the second if he

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Speaker 1: got the nomination. But that's not gonna happen. I mean

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, I'm a Trump guy now, I mean reality,

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Speaker 1: Like you said, he's just not gonna lose. But one

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Speaker 1: thing I watched CRUs is uh, camper and temper camperm

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Speaker 1: or whatever he did this morning, and uh, I haven't

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01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,360
Speaker 1: seen Donald Trump's response, but to me, it looked like

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01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:07,479
Speaker 1: it was a meltdown. I mean, what what Well he

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01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: did respond. We had him on earlier in the program

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Speaker 1: today and he responded, Um, you know what Cruise did?

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Speaker 1: I mean he he kind of painted himself in the corner,

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01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 1: is what he did. He went and he was kind

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01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,479
Speaker 1: of ran when when the primaries first started, he ran

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01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,920
Speaker 1: and didn't say much to Trump. Then they went into

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Speaker 1: South Carolina and that was supposed to be his stronghold. Well,

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01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,679
Speaker 1: Trump prop went down there and took on the pope

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01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,360
Speaker 1: and then called George Bush the liron in front of

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Speaker 1: his whole family. And he still want that should have

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01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: told him something that was in his back door. So

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01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: then they go on and Rubio gets knocked out little Marco,

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01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: so Spieg gets knocked out, and then it's a three

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Speaker 1: man race. Well, the powers to be went to Cruise.

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01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: Cruise went in and kissed the ring. I mean he

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01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: basically it's like you're getting a loan from the mob.

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01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're in that group. You're in it. So

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Speaker 1: if you look at it from their perspective, they have

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01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 1: nothing to lose. If Trump Trump the the Cruise beats Trump.

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01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 1: Cruise is their man. If he gets beat, Cruise has

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01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: gone forever. Crew's painted himself in a big corner and

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Speaker 1: I'm watching him on TV today and I felt this

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01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,200
Speaker 1: for a long time. All these delicacy one and all

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01:20:13,240 --> 01:20:15,600
Speaker 1: this stuff. He he was that smart. He would have

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01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: done in the South. That was the establishment Republican picking

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01:20:18,880 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: stuff off for him. He got on the train painting

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01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: himself in the corner. And now he's it's almost like

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01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: if you looked at the space, he's going, well, this

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01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,240
Speaker 1: is it. Politically, the man is probably finished. Look I

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01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: don't think he's either way they want. Let me let

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01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:36,759
Speaker 1: me just say a thing here. I I I don't

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01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 1: think it's ever good for a politician to get that angry.

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01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 1: I just a general rule of thumb. I don't think

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01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: people like it. I think it it tends to backfire.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out more tonight. He did it earlier today.

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01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,800
Speaker 1: There's no doubt that Senator Cruz, who has run a

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01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:57,839
Speaker 1: great campaign, has been an insurgent, has fought for conservative values.

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01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 1: And I've seen this in many races is over the years.

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01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: You've got to understand it's not easy to run for president.

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01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:05,920
Speaker 1: I do have a great deal of sympathy for these

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01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,439
Speaker 1: guys now they put themselves in there. You've got to

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01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 1: have a healthy ego. You've got to you've got to

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01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: really believe in yourself. You've got to have a thick skin.

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01:21:13,200 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: You've gotta have callus has built up. But at the

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01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: end of the day, it is a much harder job

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01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:20,599
Speaker 1: than I think most people really know. And it should

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01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 1: be that way because especially as as a race lingers

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01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: on and moves on, it begins to test the real

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01:21:28,760 --> 01:21:32,360
Speaker 1: character of the individual. You're competing for. The toughest job

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01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: in the entire world, and that is to be the

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01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: commander in chief, the president of the United States. So

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01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:40,720
Speaker 1: it should be tough. Um, But I have seen so

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01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: many people that have put their heart, their soul, years

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01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: of their life into running, and it is it's hard

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01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 1: when they lose. You've gotta understand they're not in this

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01:21:50,120 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: to lose. They're in this because they believe that they're

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01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:57,040
Speaker 1: the best person to do this job. So um, my

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Speaker 1: guess my feeling is is that maybe the polls leading

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01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:03,680
Speaker 1: in Indiana have frustrated a little bit Senator Cruz. That

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01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 1: that does not take away from the good things that

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01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 1: he's done, how well he's run this race, how well

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01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 1: he's done in the race. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, I don't hold one moment of anger as

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01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: as representative of who Ted Cruz is. I just don't.

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01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,439
Speaker 1: I think he would be a great Supreme Court justice,

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01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:22,400
Speaker 1: maybe a great president one day. I don't know if

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01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,519
Speaker 1: he loses Indiana, I don't think this race is it

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01:22:24,680 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: for him, And uh I want him in the Senate fighting.

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01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:33,920
Speaker 1: He's been a strong advocate, standing alone often times against

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01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: the establishment. I think he's got really good quality. So

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Speaker 1: I don't want to bring down the whole house here.

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01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: But it is not an easy process. When you put

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01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 1: your name out there and you're hat in the ring

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01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: and you say you're gonna run, and you put everything

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01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: on the line, and then you lose before a whole nation.

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01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,880
Speaker 1: It's painful. And I've seen this. I've actually look look

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01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,680
Speaker 1: at what happened to Al Gore after he lost in

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01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: two thousand. He became totally and completely unhinged. It's um,

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01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 1: it's not an easy um. So I hope that adds

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01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 1: some context to what you're saying. Joe is in Hartford, Connecticut, Joe,

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01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,960
Speaker 1: how are you glad you called? Sir? Great? How you doing, Sean?

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01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,599
Speaker 1: I I guess you know, my wife and my kids were,

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01:23:11,720 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about the whole election. And he

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01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: came to the same conclusion with Donald Trump as far

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01:23:16,000 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: as him complaining that, you know, Ted Cruz was stealing

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01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: all the delegates. He counts himself as the deal maker.

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01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,479
Speaker 1: He's even said he knows how to work the system,

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01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 1: he'd work the system. But yet he complained when Ted

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01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 1: Cruz was doing just the same thing that Donald should

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 1: have been doing. You know, if Donald didn't know the rules,

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01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,599
Speaker 1: whose fault is that and even if even if people

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01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:38,240
Speaker 1: think the rules might be unsavory, those are the rules.

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01:23:38,280 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: And if you work within those rules, you get you get.

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01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: You know, you can get, you could, you could win.

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01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 1: And if Donald again, if Donald was really serious about

1574
01:23:45,479 --> 01:23:47,559
Speaker 1: about it, he would have he would have had people

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01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: down to making deals left right backwards. He would have

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01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 1: known that rule books so well if he could have

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01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: recited it to Ted Cruz. But instead he chose just

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01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 1: complained when he lost. I mean, you know that that's

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01:23:57,479 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, that's how my wife and kids feel. You know,

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01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: we're we're Ted crue Well we'll do you know, listen.

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01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,000
Speaker 1: I think it was more of a learning curve for

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01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: him than than other people in this race. But I

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01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: think certainly Pennsylvania showed that they got in the game.

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01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: I was surprised a little bit at what happened this

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01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 1: weekend in Arizona, a state that Trump had won by

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01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: a fairly good margin, strong margin. Um. But those delegates

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01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:21,160
Speaker 1: and and their later support for Crews would only be

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01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 1: on a second ballot. If he wins tonight, then he

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01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:25,559
Speaker 1: would be in a position where I think it's it's

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01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: probably likely that he gets to twelve thirty seven. You

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01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 1: know it would be irrelevant at that point, right, Yeah,

1592
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 1: And I understand that, But I mean, again more to

1593
01:24:34,760 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: your point too, that it's on the second ballot, and

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01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:38,880
Speaker 1: Donald was pretty much crying like you know, type of

1595
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: stealing the first ballot people, when in reality he really wasn't.

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01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 1: You know. Look, it's it's a complicated system. I would

1597
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: like to simplify it. But you're right about everybody knows

1598
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,439
Speaker 1: the rules going in. Everybody has a fair shot at it.

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01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:53,599
Speaker 1: Jim Baker once famously said, you know, win as many

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01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,720
Speaker 1: delegates as you can keep all of your delegates and

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01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,760
Speaker 1: then try and steal the other guy's delegates. That doesn't

1602
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,479
Speaker 1: sound on like the best system in the world, but

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01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 1: that is the system that we have. I think you

1604
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 1: can be improved upon. I think every delegate ought to

1605
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 1: be bound on the first ballot anyway, because that is

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01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: at least representative, that gives reason for we the people

1607
01:25:12,840 --> 01:25:15,439
Speaker 1: to go out and vote in caucus, at least on

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01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:19,439
Speaker 1: one ballot represent the people that chose you. So um,

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01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 1: I think there's easy ways to improve the system and

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01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: not not not having to rework it. But but you're

1611
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 1: right on your points to here, I can't disagree with you.

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01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:31,519
Speaker 1: Tom is a Minneapolis Tom, how are you glad you called? Hey, Sean,

1613
01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:34,240
Speaker 1: Good afternoon. I gotta tell you you have got to

1614
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:39,599
Speaker 1: be the most even keeled diplomatic person living in this

1615
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:44,560
Speaker 1: country right now. Well not really, it's you know, I'm

1616
01:25:44,720 --> 01:25:47,320
Speaker 1: I I see where this is headed, and I'm trying

1617
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: to prevent a catastrophe. It's gonna be hard enough to

1618
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: win a general election as it is. Okay, I can

1619
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 1: hear you. I hear you loud and clear. That proves

1620
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:58,479
Speaker 1: you've got an i Q on top of it all.

1621
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: I think there's something working in there. I don't know

1622
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,559
Speaker 1: how high it is, but okay, yeah, me too on

1623
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,040
Speaker 1: a good day. What I wanted to say was, in

1624
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: the beginning of this whole election thing, I was even

1625
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 1: on Ted Cruise and Donald Trump. I was saying, either

1626
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: one of these two guys are easily backable, and I've gone,

1627
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: what do we say downhill or south? On Ted Cruise,

1628
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: that man has been disrespectful of you, of me, of

1629
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 1: the whole system, and saying things like two weeks ago

1630
01:26:30,360 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 1: he said on your show, I'm very troubled at Trump

1631
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 1: campaign's pattern of inciting violence and threatening. Uh what was that, yeah,

1632
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:44,240
Speaker 1: threatening violence, and then today he says that Donald Trump

1633
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: has ill will towards Christians and that prayer is a

1634
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,640
Speaker 1: sign of weakness. There's no way Donald Trump could have

1635
01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:56,200
Speaker 1: said that. And what I think about these guys is

1636
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear you complaining about the other guy.

1637
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: Don't tell me what's wrong with him. Look, I think

1638
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: at this point, I think everybody's nerves are a bit afraid.

1639
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 1: I think everybody's on emotions are high. I think it

1640
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: has been a long, drawn out, difficult argue is tough process,

1641
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 1: and I think people are pretty much wiped out. And

1642
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: and I know I know exactly what you're saying. I've

1643
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: heard it on both sides. And the only thing I

1644
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: would say is, whoever wins this thing, we'll know a

1645
01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: lot more tomorrow, a lot more tonight when I'm on TV.

1646
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: And I think Indiana is playing a very big role

1647
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 1: this year, and we'll know, and when we know, you know.

1648
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:46,479
Speaker 1: At that point, I hope the healing can begin, and

1649
01:27:46,520 --> 01:27:49,519
Speaker 1: I hope that we realize that another term of Obama

1650
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: through Hillary is just the disaster for the country. This

1651
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,040
Speaker 1: is gonna be a choice election. There's gonna be a

1652
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:57,840
Speaker 1: lot of differences between whoever the candidate is and Hillary Clinton.

1653
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:00,519
Speaker 1: I can tell you that, but I appreciate your kind words.

1654
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:05,719
Speaker 1: I do. I UM. I get slammed for being trying

1655
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,320
Speaker 1: to bring people together here, but it's got to happen

1656
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: because I know a divided house is gonna fall