1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Novel. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: This show contains adult material and swearing. You have been warned. 3 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 3: Oh my god, there's a lot of unpack here, Like 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 3: I know. Oh my god, that's like terrifying that it's terrified. 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 3: Oh that has absolutely freaked me out. 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 4: Now me, I'm a savage. 7 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: Are you bored of modern dating? 8 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 5: Meeting the same people from the same apps in the 9 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 5: same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 5: house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's 11 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 5: time to change the narrative on how we find love. 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 5: It's time to start looking for love in all the 13 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 5: wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only 14 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 5: picking people who are the total opposite of my type. 15 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 5: And after twenty eight of these dates in two months, 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 5: will I find that special someone? Or Well, this experiment 17 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 5: proved that I should just give up on dating altogether. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 2: It's time to find out. 19 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 5: I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later. 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 3: Hey Grace, Hello, So who do we have today? So 21 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 3: this is a guy called Ewan Who I like that name. 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: I like the name Yuan as well. Is you an 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: Irish or Scottish? I think it's Scottish. Well, maybe I 24 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 3: just honestly associated with Umancgre's. 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 5: Name same, it's a fit name. So he was called Ewan. 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,640 Speaker 5: He was Australian. I met him on an app called Bristler. 27 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: When I say that word, what do you think? 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 4: Bristley like Bristoley beer. 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's basically an app yeah for bearded people 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 5: and for people who like bearded people. Okay, well now 31 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 5: I have to say I don't know about you, but 32 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,639 Speaker 5: whenever I've dated someone with a bed, my skin gets 33 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 5: so bad, like around my chin, and it just like 34 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 5: I can't, I honestly can't fuck with beers. I'll be honest, 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 5: and I don't like the way that it makes me 36 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 5: feel on my face. I'm fine with like you know, 37 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 5: you know my ex had like you know, a really 38 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: cool mustache or like you know, a bit of a beer, 39 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 5: but like not, like you know, a dramatic bed. So 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 5: what do you think of it? 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 4: I don't. 42 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not here for beards. You would never 43 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: find me on Bristler. Like my legs are pretty briskly 44 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: because I'm bad of shaving them, but I like some stubble. 45 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 3: I'm not into beards, So I have a weird thing 46 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 3: about like if I see someone who has a beard 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:39,959 Speaker 3: and even a food that I just think of germs. 48 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 5: And also like, I'm sorry when somebody drinks a pint 49 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 5: and then they have the beer on the top of 50 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 5: the mustache, but the mustache is so long, like it's 51 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 5: so grim to me. 52 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 3: I just I can't get on board. I'm so sorry 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 3: to anyone has a beard out there. But like there's 54 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: plenty of people who are into it. 55 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 4: Go on Bristler, No, go on Bristler. 56 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: This episode sponsored by Bristler. 57 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 2: The app that we found you on is an app 58 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: to give with beds. 59 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: How long have you been on that? 60 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 6: I think I first jumped on it like in twenty fourteen. 61 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 4: If you always had a bed since. 62 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 6: Twenty twelve, okay, yeah, And I just sort of jumped 63 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 6: on it just to see not like anything. So I've 64 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 6: never been on tinder Bumble No, never, no, or ever 65 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 6: like hand on my heart. Bristler is the only one 66 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 6: that I've ever used it. 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 7: Wow, And have you not ever just been tepended to 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 7: use one of the other app If you're on an 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 7: app that is like literally advertised at people, Yeah, I 70 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 7: do like beards, then they're not going to be like 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 7: you've got a beard kind of thing. 72 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 6: So that's that's literally, that's that's the sole reason for it. 73 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: I get that, Yeah, but like I just didn't think 74 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: that people had an issue like that. 75 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 6: So many they probably don't. That's just all me. 76 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 5: Can I just say, I'm obsessed with him saying that 77 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 5: that he has had a beard. 78 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 2: Since since twenty twelve. Yeah, I'm trying to think, who are. 79 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 5: The women going on Bristler because it's such a specific 80 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 5: thing to want to meet someone with a beard, because 81 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 5: there are loads of beard and people on other dating apps, 82 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 5: so to want it that much, Like, what do you 83 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 5: think that's about? 84 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 3: I have a few friends, particularly Won. Her boyfriends are 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 3: all carbon copies of each other, and they all have 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 3: dark hair and have big beards. 87 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 4: So she thing for beards. So I think it must 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 4: be like a trade. 89 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: It must be like you know, like if you like 90 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 3: tall guys, it's the same, like you know, you have 91 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 3: a specific thing that. 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 4: You go for. 93 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 3: It's just funny that there's actually an app for Like, 94 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 3: I wish there was an app for all guys. It'sn't grace, 95 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 3: you're in prime position to create one, and what would 96 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: it be called? 97 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,640 Speaker 2: It would be called give head standing up. 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 5: So on Bristler was it said that he's in the 99 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 5: top twenty five best beards and then hundred klometers of me. 100 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: Right, I don't know what that means. 101 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 4: Sorry, the app rates the beards. 102 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 2: It must mean he's really popular on bristoler i'ven just. 103 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 3: Looking through his profile here and thirty five Australian Londoner 104 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: tall tall enough talks enough humorous that's debatable. He said 105 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,760 Speaker 3: that himself, not me. I'm not being mean dad jokes. Yeah, 106 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 3: he does actually seem like someone whose out a few 107 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 3: dad jokes like sorry, this is a perfect example. Can 108 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 3: cook woman at rice in fifty eight seconds? 109 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 4: Come on? 110 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: Exactly exactly. 111 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 5: He reminded me of like a sort of American comedy actor, Like, yeah, 112 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: I don't know, but what do you think of his bit? 113 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a solid one. In fairness, it's not a bit. 114 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 3: I just personally would rather the beard be shorter. Yeah, 115 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: but also it's not too long. It's not like it's 116 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 3: like along with the one that he can plait. It's nice, 117 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 3: that's true, but it's still a bit is a probably 118 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 3: it's a proper one. 119 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's full. 120 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 5: That's why he's in the top twenty five because that's 121 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 5: a solid bit. 122 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got great hairline. 123 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: He's got really good hair as well. 124 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 4: Solid i'd give him. 125 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 3: Now, bear in mind, I'm not a beard expertise, but 126 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 3: i would give him a solid nine out of ten. 127 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 2: Wowee yay, good feedback. Well, that's why he's in the 128 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 2: top twenty five. 129 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 4: So he's on this amazing app. 130 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 3: You have introduced us to this amazing new app for 131 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 3: anyone listening who's into beers who did not know it existed, Yeah, 132 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: there's anche there for you. 133 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he actually said that Bristoler wasn't all that amazing. 134 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,159 Speaker 6: I'm not sure what it's like using it from the 135 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 6: female perspective, and I'll be very interested to hear what. 136 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, well you could look. 137 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 6: Yeah, but from a nail who's using it, there's a 138 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 6: lot of like catfishing in bots going on. Oh mate, 139 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 6: it's hilarious. Like usually they waited about sort of like 140 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 6: three or four sentences before they're like, can't pay your rend, 141 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 6: bah blah blah, and I'm like, ah, here we go. 142 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 143 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: Oh because me, it's me and I'm stuck in Australia. 144 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 5: I've got nothing but Foster's can can you prepend me 145 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 5: his two thousand pounds? 146 00:06:59,839 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 6: Now? 147 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 3: You know what though, like I'd say, oh god, well, 148 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 3: it's such a niche app you'd be surprised if that happens. 149 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, but then maybe in a way it's 150 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 5: kind of easier to do it on a really niche app. 151 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like, are you into body hair and guys? Like, 152 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 3: do you like someone who has like hairy chest wax 153 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 3: chess like like waxed fully down there? 154 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 4: Like what what's your preference? 155 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily have a preference. 156 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: I'm not obsessed with like really really hairy backs like 157 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: that does a bit give me the ech. 158 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 2: I also just like probably if I was gonna say I. 159 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 3: Have a preference, I sound like a fucking man when 160 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 3: I say this, But if I was gonna have a preference, 161 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: it would be like, hell, let's but I sound like 162 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: a man. It's funny, Like I actually think it's really 163 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 3: it is really important to be honest because like I'm 164 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: the same and if you hadn't said it there, I 165 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: would be. 166 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 4: Like Jesus, that's really harsh. 167 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 3: But probably because I fully wax everything, Yeah that I 168 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 3: just prefer I just feel like quite clean when I 169 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 3: do that I would prefer that as well, But like 170 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 3: I do think there comes a stage if you're dating 171 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: someone in a relationship where that's probably isn't as important 172 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 3: as it was at the start. 173 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: I think that's definitely true. 174 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 5: And you know, it's like, I'm someone I like prefer 175 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 5: myself wax, but I'm so disorganized that often I haven't 176 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 5: had a wax, you know what I mean. Like, I'm 177 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 5: so busy and I find having a wax like takes 178 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 5: like an hour out of my day, So I can't 179 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: really chat because sometimes I'll have sex with a hairy, 180 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 5: fucking vagina. 181 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: But it's like as. 182 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 3: Saying what I just said out loud, where I'm like, 183 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 3: you know, I'm like over to everything, but I would 184 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 3: prefer if their hair is Like that's what men say 185 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: all the time. They're like, you know, like I don't 186 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 3: mind it if they have a bush, but I would 187 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 3: prefer if. 188 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 2: They were hairless. 189 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Can I just say when you introduced the 190 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 3: guy with the beard, because our previous date of all 191 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 3: have been so like out there, I was like I 192 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 3: just automatically thought like he was. 193 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: A beard for someone. Uh no, no, he just has 194 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: a beard. Oh, thank god, this is right up my streets. Okay, 195 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 4: let's go. 196 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 3: Is anyone episode you that like Richard Osman? Like who 197 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 3: Richard Osman? 198 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 6: I don't actually know who that is? 199 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 3: Really say him. 200 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 6: I've been what I look like a lot of things 201 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 6: like who, mainly sort of like four eyed beauty twat 202 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 6: and all that kind. 203 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 4: Of so he presents pointless. 204 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 6: Okay. 205 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: I get Susan Boil a lot on TikTok. Whenever I 206 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: posted on TikTok, people are like, that's Susan. 207 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 6: Boil pre your post massive weight loss because didn't she 208 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 6: sort of like lose quite a bit recently or semi really? 209 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 4: Okay, are you a biographer? 210 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 2: Yeah? 211 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 4: Did she come to your gym? 212 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 3: Yeah? 213 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 6: Not anymore because being confused for you, so she did. 214 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 4: Wow, that's good. 215 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 6: There you go next time and Boiled. Then you can 216 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:38,080 Speaker 6: just drag out one of those photos in a way. 217 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: That picture it's not loaded. 218 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:44,679 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's the one on the right. Yeah yeah 219 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 6: without I mean, she won't be jumping out of any 220 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 6: cakes anytime soon, but you know, good for it. 221 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,839 Speaker 3: I didn't know who Richard Osmond was either, and so 222 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: I looked it up and I actually almost fell off 223 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 3: my chair. 224 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 4: He looks nothing like him, absolutely no, But until. 225 00:09:57,800 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 3: I saw this one photo and I went to that 226 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: that because Richindalsman doesn't have a beard usually. 227 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: But then I was like, he's giving me Richard and I'm. 228 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 3: Sorry, well, I'm sorry, they do look similar in this. 229 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 5: But then I felt bad because I was like, you 230 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 5: don't like Riginalsman. And then he was like, what does 231 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 5: he look like? And then we googled him and it's 232 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 5: like the first few pictures he looked nothing like him. 233 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: And then I was like, I'm. 234 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 5: Not gonna argue my point here because I hate it 235 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 5: when people tell me that I look like. 236 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: Susan Boyle, not the original. I'm not anyway. 237 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 5: I'm not going to get into slippery slope here of 238 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 5: comparing richinalds On and Susan boil. 239 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 2: So Ross. 240 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 5: He was like big into beer. He was drinking guinness. 241 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 5: He did keep getting it on his massage. I will 242 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 5: say I wanted to tell him, but I felt like 243 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,959 Speaker 5: I can't because we've spoken enough about his beard. 244 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 2: But he was big into beer, right, and one of 245 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 2: his side. 246 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 5: Hustles is he does like tours at this brewer in London, 247 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 5: so he like loved beer. But then we were talking 248 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 5: about Foster's and he was saying that basically when he 249 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,679 Speaker 5: came here, he was like, everybody thinks Foster's is like Australian, 250 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 5: but actually it's gone having to do in Australia. And 251 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 5: then he he's always the whole story, not that I 252 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 5: really like give a ship because I've never drunk Fosters 253 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 5: in my life. Can you talk me through the Fosters thing? 254 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 5: So in Australia, it's like disgusting. 255 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 6: It doesn't exist in Australia. So when you came here, 256 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 6: I bought it all with me. That's why I doesn't 257 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 6: exist in Australia anymore. So. No, so it started off 258 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 6: it was made in Melbourne originally, but funnily enough, it 259 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 6: stopped being made in Australia around about the nineties because 260 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 6: everyone started drinking it here and no one was drinking 261 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 6: it in Australia, so they just. 262 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 2: They were making it in Australia. 263 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 6: No would I say it doesn't exist in Australia. 264 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: It doesn't exist like at all. 265 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 5: In the slightest bit here on the branding does it 266 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 5: say it's like says. 267 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 6: From Australia, because that's where it originally came from, but 268 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,439 Speaker 6: it's made here in the UK entirely. If you went 269 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 6: to Australia to go and find a Foster's, first and foremost, 270 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 6: why do you go all the way to Australia. 271 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 2: Just look, foster You've got it in the courner. 272 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 6: Probably wasted a flight. It really doesn't exist. You can't 273 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 6: find it there. 274 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 2: In England. 275 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 5: Foster's is marketed as this big Australian beer and everybody 276 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 5: thinks like it's the way that you know, we know 277 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 5: Guinness to be Irish was That's how like Foster's is 278 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 5: being marketed. But we're just sold like a huge lie. 279 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: Whoa, that was like our fun fact of the day. 280 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 2: I love that shit. Yeah, I love stuff like that. 281 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: So I just like when you talked about having like 282 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 3: phoney beer on his beard. 283 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: I really just it's a horrid moment. 284 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: Look he's doing fine, he's on that app he is like, 285 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 3: oh my god, he's probably lows people are into beards. 286 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just find that and look I find 287 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 3: it with anually, even if some of his food and 288 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 3: their hair on their face, I'm like, get that off. No. 289 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 5: Also, you know when someone has beer on their like 290 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 5: bed or mustache, so they do this thing. Obviously listeners 291 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 5: can't see us, but it's the way they like lick 292 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: it off their bed. 293 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,440 Speaker 2: But they go like that and it's so proper. Gives 294 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 2: me the egg. 295 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,479 Speaker 5: So anyway, but he gave us some wisdom on the fosters. 296 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 5: Then he told me this mad story. 297 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: Listen to this. 298 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 6: So this is when I was with my girlfriends. So 299 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 6: we did a year of long distance. Right, you get 300 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 6: involved with like the sending of content and everything like 301 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 6: that because you can't beat them people. At the same time, 302 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 6: you want to be connected with some kind of sexual matter. Obviously, Yeah, 303 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 6: obviously there was a lot of back and forth in 304 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 6: that year of long distance, as you would expect, and 305 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 6: then when I came to London, it was all fine, 306 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 6: blah blah blah blah blah. About two years after I 307 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 6: actually came down, I got a weird Skype call from 308 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 6: the contact I didn't know. I opened it and all 309 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 6: of a sudden I was bombarded with all of the 310 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 6: stuff from years and years ago. 311 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: Right, so you sent your girlfriend. 312 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, so I'm watching this screen filler and I'm just like, 313 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 6: the fuck is this? And then they started to send 314 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 6: me screenshots of my Facebook contexts and then they were like, 315 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 6: you need to send us. 316 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 2: How did they getherre? 317 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't know. 318 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 6: To this day, I still don't know. And they were like, 319 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 6: you need to send us one thousand pounds right now, 320 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 6: or we're going to send this to everyone. And I've said, well, 321 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 6: first and foremost, guys, you're out of luck because I 322 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,280 Speaker 6: don't have one thousand pounds, So lower your offer and 323 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 6: I'll see what I can do. So they kept saying, okay, well, 324 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 6: have you got five hundred pounds. I'm like nope. But 325 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 6: I'm like, guys, you really should have picked your target 326 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 6: because I've got fuck all to my name. So I 327 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 6: actually kind of said, look, Matte, you can do this. 328 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. 329 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 7: Yeah. 330 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 6: I had a reputation in my hometown. I used to 331 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 6: be known as the naked guy because I have a 332 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 6: get drunken nightclubs and just run through the placecas with 333 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 6: my clothes off when I used to work there. 334 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: But then they didn't do anything, no. 335 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:08,440 Speaker 6: Because I all the reading that I sort of did 336 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 6: was like, look, they're just hoping that you will pay them, 337 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 6: because then they know they've got you because they know 338 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 6: you're willing to pay, and they'll say if you pay 339 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 6: us will delete it. 340 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, but then they'll ask you again exact yeah. Yeah, 341 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 2: So I was. 342 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 6: I was slowly shutting down all my social media's right, 343 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 6: and then the last thing I said to them and 344 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 6: they're just like, okay, well you got five minutes. And 345 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 6: I said, you know what, guys, I said, do your 346 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 6: fucking the worst, like you don't scare me, and I'll 347 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 6: blocked them and then just hid my social media is. 348 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 4: For three months. 349 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: What a little legend. Oh my god, there's a. 350 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: Lot of unpack here, Like I know, Oh my god, 351 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 3: that's like terrifying. 352 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 5: It's terrifying because how did they access that? It's terrifying. 353 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 3: No, that has absolutely freaked me out now, No, I know, 354 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 3: I know. 355 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 5: Because honestly it is really scary and I feel like 356 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 5: I've been quite blase in my life. 357 00:15:58,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: Really with. 358 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 3: See but like you know, like it's also it's obviously 359 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: legal for people to share images with their content all 360 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 3: that kind of stuff. 361 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 4: What if someone hacks into you and gets it all? 362 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 5: That's was I got robed last year, right, like walking 363 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 5: along the street, my phone got taken out of my 364 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 5: hand while it was unlocked. And my phone doesn't lock 365 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 5: because when I do gigs, I always have to have 366 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 5: my phone over to the tech for them to play 367 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 5: music off of it, so I usually just have it 368 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 5: so that it doesn't lock, so they don't need to 369 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 5: know the password for my phone, so my phone doesn't 370 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 5: lock like after five seconds or whatever. Anyway, this teenage 371 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 5: boy like runs off with my phone and I for 372 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 5: two hours, like I couldn't get home. I was like 373 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 5: on another side of London trying to get back home, 374 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 5: and I didn't have a card or anything. And the 375 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 5: whole time I was just thinking, like what if this 376 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 5: teenage boy is like accessing all of my image? Now 377 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 5: I'm sure he didn't because he probably just like he 378 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 5: turned the location off straight away and turned the phone 379 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 5: off straight away. But it's like so scary, but at 380 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 5: the same time, like if somebody like leaks my nudes, 381 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 5: it would be quite on brand for me, and then 382 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 5: I'd make it a huge political like moment, like you know, men. 383 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 3: Abusing women in for a penny, in for but you're 384 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 3: like exactly uses my advantage. 385 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, this is the most interesting date from the story. 386 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 3: Alone, Like, no, that is crazy that that had happened 387 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 3: to him. 388 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 5: Honestly, I know that that's so crazy because it's like 389 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 5: someone accessed his files. But the other thing that I 390 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 5: keep hearing about this happening on dating apps, which is 391 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 5: obviously very different to this, but still fucked. And this 392 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 5: happened to my friend, right, So he spoke to the 393 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 5: scirll in the summer. They'd been like dirty talking. He 394 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 5: didn't even even send pictures. He just was like dirty 395 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 5: talking with the scull. Then a few months later he 396 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 5: got a number, like random number text him like Hey, 397 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 5: I have all of these screenshots of you sexting like somebody, 398 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 5: and I found your boss and I found your parents 399 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 5: email and I'm going to send all of the screenshots them. 400 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: And my friend was. 401 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 5: Like whoa, like good luck, Like it's literally me just 402 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 5: like talking about like myself Ianking, like do your worst 403 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 5: kind of thing. 404 00:17:58,240 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: But they were. 405 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 5: Blackmailing him, and it happens quite a lot. And I 406 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 5: reckon because a lot of people have affairs on these 407 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 5: apps that then they'll they'll get a few people who 408 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 5: will be so scared that will give them like ten 409 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 5: thousand pounds. 410 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 3: Well, I think there's a big lesson there. Just be careful. 411 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 4: It is be. 412 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,400 Speaker 2: Careful, be really cautious. 413 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 7: I think. 414 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 5: No, I'm I'm yeah, I'm gonna become much more careful online, grace. 415 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 3: Every time I do recording with you, every time I 416 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 3: hear about day, I go in and call my boyfriend, 417 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, thank God, God Jesus. 418 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: It's so peek out in the trenches. 419 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, this is this is bad stuff. But I loved 420 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 4: his response. I love that he was like doing it west, mate. 421 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, he was like, you really picked the wrong target here, mate, 422 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: But a grace. 423 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: I also knowing you, like probably the worst part of 424 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 3: that story for you is that you were like, he 425 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 3: doesn't have thousand dollars, he doesn't have five hundred pounds. 426 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 3: You were probably like, oh, that's the worst part of 427 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: the story for you. 428 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 2: Next time. On twenty eight dates Later, you know me. 429 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: So well, and you think the one thing that I 430 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: would want if I could wake up tomorrow is time 431 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: travel or what? Because I want to be gay in 432 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: the past. I want to be this gay in the past. No, 433 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: thank you, you around me. 434 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 7: I'm a savage, he can hand. 435 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: It to. 436 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 3: Me. 437 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: Twenty eight Dates Later is produced by Novel for iHeartRadio. 438 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 5: For more from Novel, visit novel dot Audio. 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