1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to you stuff you should know Frendhouse Stuff Works 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: dot Com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: There's Child's w Chuck Bryant looking chipper and bright eye 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: and bushy tail. There's Jerry over there, she dressed like 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: snow white. Some birds flying around the place. It's like, uh, 6 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: all this stuff you should know. It's like Disney all 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: up in here. Which, by the way, we learned the 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: hard way. Um, welcome a dam Gilbert, so I'll mess 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: it up again. That's good. So, Chuck, have you ever 10 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: been inside an underground mine? No? Do you do? You 11 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: remember an episode where we talked about what happens to 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: abandon mine? Yeah? Boy, did we do a show on 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: that old timy crazy old It was a good one 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly. Okay, yeah, and then we've also 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: done one on mountaintop removal mining with Ben so Lee. Yeah, 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: that was a good one too. Up, this one's totally different. 17 00:01:03,320 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: Fracking too. Oh yeah, we did do fracking. What the 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: frick is fracking did? That's what it was called. One 19 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: of our better titles. Um, but this was totally different. 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: This is underground mining. Yes, this is what people normally 21 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: think of with mining rather than stripping the top off 22 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: of a mountain or um fracking. This is this is mining. Yeah, 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: and you usually um don't think about mining much as 24 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: a regular person walking around on a day to day basis, 25 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: unless there's some sort of accident, and that will usually 26 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 1: cause regular folk to say, oh yeah, right, people still 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: go underground in mine and it can be very dangerous. 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: They're like, how terrible? Back to life like in two 29 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 1: and Chile? I remember that. I know that one was 30 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: huge while they got those dudes they did, and there's 31 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: I think a movie coming out or already out. Uh, 32 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken Antonio Bandetas, Oh yeah, I think 33 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: so too sexy. Yeah, that's a one sexy minor do 34 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: you remember that? You don't remember the Antonio bandeis? How 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,119 Speaker 1: do you say? Yes, that's right, I remember that. Now? 36 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: Did someone played him though, right? Or was he? Yeah? 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: I'm sure he guessed it at least once. But yeah, 38 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: I think it was Chris Ktan. I think exactly right, 39 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: the least sexy guy of all time. Actually, we're sorry, 40 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: Mr Katan, but it's true. I think he would admit that. No, 41 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: I think he likes himself. He doesn't care what we say. 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: What was that crazy character he used to do the 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: like Mango? Yeah, that was very funny. Oh no, Mango 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: is different than the monkey boy. Mango was like the 45 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: super sexy um like Flamenco dancer down in Miami or 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: something that like every people would like like give up 47 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: their lives for it just a year around. Mango wasn't 48 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: the one who ate fruit all right, I don't remember. 49 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: God rest his soul? Who Chris Catin. I'm just kidding, Well, 50 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: you can still Does that have to mean you're dead? 51 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: Or can God just rest your soul like he needs 52 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: a break. I think there's a sense of finality to that. 53 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: When God rests your soul, you can still rest in 54 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: peace by taking a nice nap um so yes. In Chile, uh, 55 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: it was a disaster in two thousand and ten that 56 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: uh turned out with a great ending because like I said, 57 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 1: they're all rescued and um, but they spent sixty eight 58 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: days underground. Yeah in a little room, crazy man. It 59 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: would probably smell a lot like p when they were 60 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: finally taken out of there. Yeah, it's a long time, 61 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's believable. I believe the room was 62 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: designed as an escape room or something, so it worked 63 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: like it it was supposed to. But they had to 64 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: dig like an escape hatch. They had to dig down 65 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: to these miners hundreds of feet under the ground. Yeah, um, 66 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: which in and of itself put their life in danger, 67 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you know. And that happened in two thousand ten. 68 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: And Julia Layton, who wrote this article, points out that 69 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: that was a as far as mining goes, that was 70 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: a bad year. So there were those guys like thirty 71 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: three were rescued, but a bunch of their compatriots were 72 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: killed in that same disaster, I believe. Well, yeah, and um, 73 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: I think she also makes a great point that, you know, 74 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: the disaster gets all the headlines, but people die all 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: the time, individually or in you know, several dudes at once. 76 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't hit the headlines like a couple 77 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: of guys die on the job in a day, and 78 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: regionally you might hear about the news, but it's not 79 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 1: gonna sweep the nation like a big disaster. And apparently, also, um, 80 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: things like black Long are still around even though they 81 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't be. And I was reading you know that they 82 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: these deaths although they're preventable. They are there the deaths 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: of people who live in rural communities outside of the 84 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: spotlight of the media, and so it still happens. So yeah, 85 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: the point is mining, underground mining in particular is extremely dangerous. 86 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: I have a question for you, though. I was looking 87 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: at pictures of modern mining operations, and guys are down there, 88 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: you know, without even like a dust mask on, And 89 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking that seems to be the most preventable 90 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: thing you can do. Is where the like, weren't they 91 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 1: wearing the things that firefighters wear, but the tank in 92 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: the full mask, face mask. The closest thing I can 93 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: come to for an answer is that the mine. No, 94 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: the mine owners are supposed to have that place so 95 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: ventilated that you wouldn't even need that supposed to I 96 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: don't know about that. That's that, But I mean, like 97 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: in the nine Congress said there should not be black 98 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: lung anymore. We want to eradicated from the mining industry. 99 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: Since then, seventy six thousand miners have died from black 100 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: long um. But it's apparently it's totally preventable. It's just 101 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: mine owners being cheap and or lazy. And I guess 102 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,799 Speaker 1: I mean when was this done? When did they? Oh? Yeah, okay, 103 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,040 Speaker 1: well you could have stats of people that theoretically started 104 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: their career after that, and I'm sure you should not 105 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: have black lungs, but they they're definitely people who weren't 106 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 1: even born than that died of black long since man 107 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: um all right, well we're talking about underground mining though, 108 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: because as you pointed out to Jerry when she said 109 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: mining and you underground mining difference. That sound like that. 110 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: I've got a lot of self reflection into um. But 111 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: surface mining is different, and that is uh, a very 112 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: viable way to get or if you only want to 113 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,280 Speaker 1: go down and that's a top down op, that's like 114 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: mountaintop removal. Yeah, if you want to go down a 115 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: couple hundred feet, it's a it's a good way to 116 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: get some or below that the efficiencies, um, it becomes inefficient. 117 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 1: So they say, well, why don't we get down there, 118 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: go to the working our way up. That's what they do, 119 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: or least, you know, maybe just go get that big 120 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: chunk of orbits a thousand feet down? And did you 121 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: did you see this thing about kind of the early 122 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 1: history of mining? Yah? So should we do that? Yeah? Man, 123 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the when you talk about going like a thousand feet 124 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: down or how how far does the uranium mind go 125 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: down to ft? That's mind boggling lead deep. That's more 126 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: than a mile, right, isn't a mile something like in 127 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: the neighborhood of five thousand feet? I have no idea. 128 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I think it is. It's something like that, right, So 129 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: that's a very deep amount. But that's using like machines 130 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: and mechanization, which we'll talk about. So if you go 131 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: around the world and find some of these ancient minds 132 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: like Roman minds or Egyptian minds, they were the first 133 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: ones to really get into mining um, although there are 134 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: prehistoric minds that date back to the Neolithic age. Them 135 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: going down like a hundred feet or so, that's pretty impressive, 136 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 1: and they're working in it's like something like three or 137 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: four meters a month of an advance rate. Yeah, because 138 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: they're using pick axes. They were using picks and slave 139 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: labor and prisoners and prisoners of war criminals basically, so 140 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: that conditions, as you would imagine, were terrible because they 141 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: didn't care ahead and I will just go conquer another 142 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: land and make them exactly. But as that um source 143 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: of employees dried up and they had fewer and fewer 144 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: prisoners of war because they conquered everyone. They said, well, 145 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: maybe this is a real job and we should make 146 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: it safer. Yeah, like paid some probably still like unskilled, 147 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: like yokels, but at least they Yeah, but they weren't 148 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: prisoners of war and slaves that they wanted to pay 149 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 1: them a little more, a little money, not much, and 150 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: make a little bit safer. No, And as a result, 151 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 1: the occupation of mining became more respected and respectable because 152 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a pretty hardcore, a patient, um, and one that 153 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: should be admired and respected, especially if you're talking about 154 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: back in the day when they're using pickaxes and stuff. Yeah, 155 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: your article that you sent was pre six and um. 156 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 1: For hundreds and hundreds of years, it kind of stayed 157 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: the same, and the Egyptians kind of set the standard 158 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: and everyone followed suit. And you know, they would dig 159 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: down with pickaxes and shovels made of you know, depends 160 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: everything from bone to when they finally got metal from mining, 161 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: they would use metal, right. It kind of was like 162 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: a cycle. They also very cleverly and apparently this is 163 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,559 Speaker 1: a really old technique they would use. Um. I think 164 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: it was called fired quenching. Yeah, that's says fire setting 165 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: or fire quenching. Let's just say they would heat up 166 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: rock with fire and then throw water on it. Yeah, 167 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: and if you've ever done that, you can see your 168 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: rockwell crack pretty quickly because of that change in temperature. 169 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: That really rapid change of temperature. Not safe. No, no, 170 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 1: it's not, because that rock can go flying, especially in 171 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: fifth century Rome. Yeah, and they were also using it 172 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:11,080 Speaker 1: not just to like hurry along. It was basically their 173 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: their version of drilling and blasting before there was drills 174 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: or blast equipment. Um. And they would also use it 175 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,439 Speaker 1: not just to to drill or blast or break up 176 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: or they were doing it so they could free their 177 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 1: acts as or picks that would get stuck in the rock. 178 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: So yeah, that thing could come flying out and hit you. 179 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: But again, you were most likely a prisoner of war, 180 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: a slave, or a convicted criminal who was not only 181 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: using a very cheap pick to break up rock. All day, 182 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: there's a guy behind you lashing you with the whip 183 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: to egg you on and keep you standing upright. Yeah, 184 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: and it is weird. I just thought about the cycle 185 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:51,839 Speaker 1: like they they kind of I mean, they use the 186 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: metal for other things, but they were kind of mining 187 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: to just improve their own equipment for more mining and 188 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: the discovery more metals. Like initially they wanted to think 189 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: flint for tools and weapons, but they were using bone. 190 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: And then eventually they were like, oh, well we found copper, right, 191 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: so we'll use copper to dig, and like oh well, 192 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: now we found bronze, and like wait, we found some iron. 193 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: R Now let's use iron. Pretty neat, yeah, And each 194 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: time it was like a snake eating its own tail. 195 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: They just go do some more mining with the new stuff. 196 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: That's right. Um. And so yeah, like you said that, 197 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: that was pretty much the early history of mining, and 198 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 1: it stayed virtually the same until the age of mechanization, 199 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: that well, the industrial age. But even after the industrial agies, 200 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: people were still using like ancient mining techniques T and 201 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: T H. Well it's not that but blasting. And I 202 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,079 Speaker 1: think what they say in this article like five of 203 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: mining today, is this that blast? Yeah technique, it's mostly mechanized, right, Yeah, Well, 204 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: let's you want to take a break. Yeah, man, Okay, 205 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: we'll come back and talk about mechanized mining techniques right 206 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: after this. All right, So, no, two minds are the same. Well, 207 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: that's probably not true. I bet you there's two minds 208 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: that are the same, exactly the same. But there are 209 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: different kinds of minds and um, but most of them 210 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: have a few common characteristics. Uh, you gotta have your 211 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: ventilation shafts. You gotta have your access shafts for the employees, 212 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: you gotta have exit shafts for the or. Um a lot. 213 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of shafts, so many shafts, but so 214 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: many shafts. There's uh, did you say vent shafts to 215 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: bend away the stuff. Yeah, that's number one recovery shafts 216 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: that the or goes up out of. Uh yeah, calm systems, 217 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: break room, we have breakroom, escape rooms, that kind of stuff, 218 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 1: and the But I think the point of Laton here 219 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: is that the ore deposit itself is going to tell 220 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 1: you what kind of underground mining technique you want to use, right, Yeah, 221 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: Like the what the ore actually is? What it's shaped like? 222 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: H Is it like a big flat slab? Is it 223 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: a big huge blob? What kind of rock is around it? 224 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: Are you mining petroleum? Jelly? Uh? Well you raised a question, Chuck. 225 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: I could not find this to save my life. So 226 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: there's two types of underground mines, right, there's hard rock 227 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: mines and soft rock mines. Sound their sound Garden and 228 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: Steely Dan. I had dock In and Brett, did you really? 229 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: And oh is doc and metal? Yeah? But see the 230 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: the thing hard rock or metal. That's a fine line something. Yeah, 231 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: But I think bread about sound Garden and bread look 232 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 1: at us sound Garden working together. Um, So I couldn't 233 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: figure out if that is meant to describe the or 234 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: the type of thing that's being mined or the rocks 235 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 1: surrounding the ore. I saw both if you know what 236 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: now for the hard or soft? Right? Oh, you see 237 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yeah, I never I think I assumed 238 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: it was the ore, but you may be right. Maybe 239 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: it's so. Layton says, for example, coal coal deposits live 240 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: in relatively soft sedimentary rock, which would make you think 241 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: that she's she's saying that it's the rock that's around 242 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: the ore's soft, yeah, and that that would be a 243 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: soft rock mine that is not dependent on the type 244 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 1: of ore you're getting out. I saw elsewhere. I saw 245 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: that what she was saying being supported and other places, 246 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: But I also saw no, it has to do with 247 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: it describes the ore that's being removed. So if there's 248 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: any miners out there that can tell us the difference definitively, 249 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 1: we want to know. Yeah, I'm sure we'll get a 250 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: wonderful follow up emial. But the point is, depending on 251 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: whether you've determined it's a hard rock mine or a 252 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: soft rock mine, UM, that's going to also inform not 253 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: just the the the where the ore is and the 254 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: size of the in shape of the ore deposit, but um, 255 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 1: whether it's hard rock or soft rock is going to 256 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: determine what type of mining technique you want to use. Yeah, 257 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: it seems like there's more hard rock minds than soft. 258 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: They list gold, diamonds, copper, silver, zinc, and nickel. It's 259 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: hard rock and the only mentioned of soft is coal. Yeah, 260 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: but there's a lot of coal mining going on, so 261 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: maybe you know tons literally tons. Uh, So let's talk 262 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: a little bit about hard rock mining. Um. It really helps. 263 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: I found to look at either cross actions, Like if 264 00:16:02,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: you look up um room and pillar mining, there's always 265 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: a great cross section diagram. The kind of brings it home, 266 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: you know, looking at this stuff. I saw you watching 267 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: a video that I saw too. It like brings out 268 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: the Little Boy who Loved Honker Truck in again, like 269 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: this stuff is really neat. Yeah, you're well, we'll get there. 270 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: The continuous minor, Yeah, that's definitely probably, but also like 271 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: trucks driving underground and like going beep. Yeah, just awesome, 272 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: all right. So room and pillar is um for a 273 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: flat or deposit that doesn't let's say like oh it 274 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: starts at two feet and goes down a thousand more feet. 275 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: It's more horizontal and flat. And this is where basically 276 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: you use this machine called a continuous miner. Uh. And 277 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: they say it drills, but maybe that's the terminology. But 278 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: when I think of drill, I think of um, something 279 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: long drilling a hole into something. This looks like a 280 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 1: boxy tank with a huge metal dust pan at the 281 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 1: bottom and a huge rolling pin with teeth on it 282 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: at the top and a big appetite for coal. Yeah. 283 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: And and when I say rolling pin, it's like kind 284 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: of like a bulldozer. You can raise and lower it 285 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: and you just drive that thing through earth. But you 286 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: leave these pillars, so you basically clear out a huge 287 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: room with these big pillars left to keep you from dying. 288 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: I find the terms room and pillar They're kind of 289 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: misleading because it makes you think that the room is 290 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: going to be vast and then there's these little kind 291 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: of supports that are left behind, and that's not the 292 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,959 Speaker 1: case at all. The pillars are huge, They're enormous. They're 293 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: from what I saw, they're frequently bigger than the room itself, 294 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: and they're left behind to keep the rock above from 295 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 1: crumbling in. Right. Yeah, that's still gotta be scary. So 296 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,200 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I'm sure you know, like this is extremely 297 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: dangerous work. Yeah. So, I mean you're allowing out inside 298 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: the mountain. That's super dangerous. Well, I mean when I 299 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: did my one caving experience a few years ago and 300 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: I was in there was this one I think they 301 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: called it a pancake crawl or something where for twenty 302 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: feet you have to shimmy on your back with with 303 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: the world's largest stone slab five inches above your face. 304 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: And I just kept thinking, like, what if the earth 305 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: moved a little, Yeah, this thing just smashed me flat, 306 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: you'd be a pancake yourself. And that's one of the 307 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: dangers is trimmers and things underground trimmers. Have you been 308 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 1: to Rock City? Yeah, when I was a kid, so 309 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: a while you know, there's like the enormous rock that's 310 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: being held up very precariously by a small boulder. You're 311 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: walking under that same same thing. I don't need to 312 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: go caving. I can just go to Rock City. Yeah, 313 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 1: and then you can go to Stuckies and buy a 314 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: pecan log after love those Yes, crazy. No rock City 315 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: as a Tennessee right, yeah, Chattanooga, Tennessee. It's very beautiful area. 316 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: It's it's our version of Carl's Bad Caverns. You've got 317 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: Rock City, well, it's super kitchy. There's like nineteen thirties 318 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: glow in the dark gnomes everywhere. It's really interesting cool um. 319 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: And then you've got Ruby Falls. You walk underground and 320 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: come into a cavern and there's the water coming down. Uh. 321 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: And then there's also like Lookout Mountain. It's beautiful. Yeah, 322 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 1: definitely worth going to. Not too far from your beloved Dollywood, Yeah, 323 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: it's not far. So. The point is with the room 324 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: and pillar, right, you're basically your pac Man or your 325 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: dig Doug going through a coal scene and then that 326 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: space you just carved out is called the room. When 327 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: you come back through, you leave a big space in 328 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: between of coal and then come back through again and 329 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: that's another room. So what's in between those two rooms 330 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: now is the pillar. It's just the strip of coal 331 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: that you left intac Yeah, and um that that they 332 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: will come in at the very end and even take 333 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: care of those pillars one by one, allowing everything to 334 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 1: collapse as it leaves, which sounds probably like the most 335 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 1: dangerous phase's knocking the pillars down there, like make Todd 336 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 1: do it. Uh, he's in the break room having a nap. 337 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: Wake him up. That's why they he always sleeps on 338 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: the job. Did you see that picture of Richard Branson 339 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: like squatting next to one of like a Virgin Airlines employee, 340 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: like sleeping on a couch in the break room. He's 341 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: like squatting next to him giving the thumbs up. What 342 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: was this whole thing? Because he's like the boss of 343 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: all bosses of this guy. No, he's saying like, I 344 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: busted you sleeping on got you? It sounded staged. It 345 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 1: was a real thing, supposedly. Yeah. Did he stick his 346 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: hands in hot water, him and himself in Italia on 347 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: the guy's face was sharp. He put toothpaste on his 348 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: hand and tickled his nose. He's a fun loving boss. 349 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 1: All right, So that's room and pillar. There's also the 350 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 1: cut and film method, which I don't fully understand. It 351 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 1: is for narrow deposits, and you basically drill a ramp 352 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: adjacent to the deposit from the surface of the earth 353 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: down to the bottom of it, and then you start 354 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: at the bottom at the bottom and just start drilling sideways. Yeah. 355 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: So so imagine like the ore deposit is just like 356 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: a big tall um like rectangle okay in the earth 357 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,159 Speaker 1: going upwards. It's a vertical or deposit. You just go 358 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: down the bottom, you make a cut across where you're 359 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 1: digging out the coal from one side all the way 360 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: to the other, all the way to the other right, 361 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: and then you backfill that with um rock rubble that 362 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,320 Speaker 1: say you you gathered when you made the initial shaft 363 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: down to the bottom, and then you drive on that 364 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: backfill to do the next thing. So you fill the 365 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:58,400 Speaker 1: entire room you just did with rubble, and then when 366 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: you cut above that, you're using that rubble to drive 367 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: on and then yep, just up. Well that makes sense. Yeah, 368 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: that's pretty pretty good one. And if you imagine a 369 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: big yellow truck doing it, it can just send you 370 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: barreling right back to age four or five. I didn't 371 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 1: play a ton with Tonka trucks a little bit. There 372 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: was a lot of model cars. Richard Scary was really 373 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: good at drawing stuff like that. Those books were great, 374 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: but I was big on I had the Evil Knevil 375 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: stunt cycle. Oh yeah, that was just amazing. Yeah, like 376 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: that was my toy of choice for like probably three 377 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: or four years. I can imagine. Yeah, I used to 378 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: we my brother and I made don't try this at home, kids. 379 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: This is the seventies. We were much more dangerous. We 380 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 1: would make hoops out of coat hangers and dip them 381 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: in gasoline. I was really really hoping that you were 382 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: going to say a ring of fire. Yeah, when you 383 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 1: could jump the evil can evil through it, it's really awesome. Yeah. Man, 384 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: I really missed out on having a Scout on my own. Yeah, 385 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: it's good to have a scott arown. Yeah. Uh. He's 386 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: gonna be at our New York shows by the way, 387 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: Oh great, just randomly going to be in New York, 388 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 1: same exact them. Actually, I don't know if he's going 389 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: to come to the show. He was going to, but 390 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: then I said, it's the same topic you've already seen, 391 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: so he said, Yeah. Anyway back to um cut and fill. Uh, 392 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: you can use it for wider deposits as well. You 393 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: just have to have two adjacent rams. I guess you 394 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: have one on each side. Yeah. I didn't really get that, 395 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: aside from maybe it's it's a they're just criss crossing it. 396 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: Think they're doing one above the other. That seems really dangerous. Yeah, 397 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: well it's all dangerous. All right. Let's talk more about Scott. 398 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: Uh what about block caving? This one is um you 399 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: don't see it a lot now. It's for hard rock 400 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: excavations and basically it's not for like precious metal or anything. 401 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 1: It's for low grade junks. So I saw that here. 402 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: But then I also saw like videos of UM that 403 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 1: that sounded a lot like this. That seemed a lot 404 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: like this too, So I don't know if it's just 405 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 1: for junk or whatever. Yeah, it's it's basically where you 406 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: cut through and then you let the roof collapse behind you. Yeah, 407 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,479 Speaker 1: you dig out a room and then blast it and 408 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: let it just fall in on itself and then you 409 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: caul that stuff out. Yeah. I guess you wouldn't care 410 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: about the stuff you're recovering like that much. Obviously it's 411 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: worth going into the earth and retrieving it. But I 412 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: guess it's not high grade, you know what I mean? 413 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 1: That's right. So um coal, like we said, is softer 414 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: and that is usually room and pillar style. But now 415 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: there's a thing called long wall mining that is all 416 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 1: the rage in the break room of the minings. So 417 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: it's really efficient they get out of available or with 418 00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: this method where room and pillar is only about fIF percent, 419 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: which is a huge deaf right. So we said that 420 00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 1: we were talking about hard rock mining, right with the 421 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: room and pillar works for hard rock mining and soft rock, yeah, 422 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: it crosses over. But then the cut and fill that's 423 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: just for hard rock, right correct, Okay, and then long 424 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: wall that's just for soft rock basically, uh think so yes, 425 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: so long while Yeah, that's the one where I'm like, 426 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: oh man, this is so cool. Yeah. The machine, it's 427 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: pretty awesome. How much those machines cost. Boy, I don't know. 428 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: A lot likes easy easy at least it's really neat. Um, 429 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: you're not drilling into a single deposit. Through the deposit, 430 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: you basically have a machine that just kind of it's 431 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: sort of a cross cut and just shaves it off 432 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: as you go onto a conveyor belt, just constantly moving 433 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: the stuff out right. Rather than drilling through going forward 434 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: or backward, You're you're going left to right. Yeah, So 435 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: what you would do is you drill a shaft down 436 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: to the ore deposit, and then you drill a shaft 437 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: that's parallel to the face of it, right, that goes 438 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,479 Speaker 1: from left to right, and then you go down and 439 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: you bring in your long wall machine, which is apparently 440 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 1: up the eight hundred feet long wide right, and each 441 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: each part of this machine, which sounds like it's modular, 442 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: like you can make it shorter or longer or whatever, 443 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 1: and they just hook up to one another. It's like 444 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: it's like a hydraulic jack that holds the roof of 445 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: the mountain up above it, yes, and then its own support. Yeah. 446 00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: And then on the front of it is where the 447 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: coal eater is, the soul eater. Amazing. This thing in 448 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: action is really cool looking. Yeah, it really is, because 449 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: when you're watching videos of it, um, it looks you 450 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: just see it from the side and it looks like, Okay, 451 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: it's gonna go straight, and then all of a sudden, 452 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: the coal eater shoots off out of sight further back 453 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: into the ore deposit. And as it does that, it 454 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: drops that coal down to a conveyor belt in the 455 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: front of the thing, and it shoots the coal off 456 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: to the shaft that raises it up. Amazing. It is 457 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,439 Speaker 1: very amazing. And there's another method called short wall, and 458 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's just for shorter cuts when 459 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: it's a narrow deposit. And then after the cut has made, 460 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: the thing advances a little further and the roof behind 461 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: it caves in. Amazing. I'm a big long wall fan. 462 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: What about you? Mm hmm. I like the room and 463 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: pillar really because it's the machine, a continuous miner. Well, 464 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: then I think that's why I like the long wall 465 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,080 Speaker 1: is because of the mining machine. They should have named 466 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 1: the continuous miner the John Henry just you know, perspect 467 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: like a throwback. But he was a railroad guy. Who 468 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: was the guy who had the casey at the bat. Now, 469 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 1: wasn't it John Henry who had the contest against the 470 00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: steam machine? But I think they were what you're talking about. 471 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: I thought it was a steel Oh right, he was 472 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: driving spikes. What was the one that was digging into 473 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: a rock? I know what you're talking about, though, and 474 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: I feel like they were. They were trying to build 475 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: a train tunnel too. I'm gonna look this up during 476 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,560 Speaker 1: the break and we'll come back with the answer. How 477 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: about that, let's do It's called the Cliffhanger, all right, 478 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: it is John Henry. Wow, he did it all. He 479 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: did it all he was he was the steel driving man, 480 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: like he said. But here was the deal. He hammered 481 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: the steel drill into rock, uh, to make the railroad tunnel. 482 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: So it was railroading mining or not mining? Those the 483 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: best of both worlds. Well, do you call that mining 484 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: mining or just tunneling tunnel? And that's a good question. 485 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: And I don't think it's mining. Mining is specifically getting 486 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: or tunneling. It's just blasting a hole through something. Okay, Tonally, 487 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 1: that was another good episode we did tunnels. Do we 488 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: do that one too? Yeah? Jeez, man, starting to lose it. Yeah, 489 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: I like our civil engineering episodes too. Is that a 490 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: tranche we have? Sure, we've done bridges, tunnels, mining a 491 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: couple of times, uh, some other stuff. Yeah. I guess 492 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: landfills would probably qualify. Yeah. I could probably come up 493 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 1: with more, but we should move on. Do you want 494 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 1: to talk about the dangers of mining Chuck, Yeah, well 495 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: they're rampant there. Well, first of all, it's it's can 496 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: be very uh can be bad for mother Earth. It's 497 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: just a tad, just a little bit we're talking. I mean, 498 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: you're changing the physical makeup of the earth beneath our feet, 499 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: So there's gotta be ramifications um. Air pollution, of course, 500 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 1: is one how water flows on you know, the water 501 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: table underneath the earth, where that goes, that's bound to 502 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,920 Speaker 1: change things well. And also a lot of times they 503 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: are releasing other things in the earth that shouldn't really 504 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: be in our drinking water, and that that stuff does 505 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,320 Speaker 1: get into drinking water. The soil pollutes the heck out 506 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: of it. Sometimes there's a fire underground, fires that you 507 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: can't even get to to put out, like in centrally 508 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania. Isn't that crazy? If fire fire burning deep 509 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: within the earth, that that just sounds dangerous. Yeah. If 510 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: a coal steam catches, you're in big trouble because that's 511 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 1: that is not getting put out anytime soon, maybe a 512 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty years, it will burn itself out, who knows, really, Yeah, 513 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: that's what Centralli has got going on still yeah, still 514 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 1: on fire, like it will probably be on fire for 515 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 1: a century. Man, I need to look into that. I 516 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: haven't heard of that. It's neat. Yeah, they had abandoned 517 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: the town. They had to. Yeah, there was a kid 518 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: in like the eighties after the fire had caught. It 519 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: was a landfill or a tire fire, something stupid, and 520 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: it caught. It caught a coal seam on fire and 521 00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: an underground cole seine and um, like they knew it 522 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 1: was burning, but they didn't evacuate the town until a 523 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: kid in two was just playing in the street in 524 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: the street opened up and almost swallowed him into a 525 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: pit of fire, and they're like, we need to get 526 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: out of here. Holy cow. So that area is just 527 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: like a I mean, is it fenced up and it's 528 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 1: a death zone. Yes, but apparently there's still a couple 529 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,920 Speaker 1: of people that lived there. Like I'm not moving, man, 530 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: never heard of that. There's also have you heard of 531 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: wildcat mining? I don't think so. It's basically I don't 532 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: know anything about mining. It's basically I asked the same question, 533 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: why do you know everything about mine? That's a good 534 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: question too, Um. Wildcat mining I know about because I 535 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: couldn't find the name of the article, but there was 536 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: a great article I think I read in Harper's a 537 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: year or two back, and it's about wildcat mining and Guiana, 538 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: and basically it's just illegal mining. But they are the 539 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: most polluting um mining operations you can imagine, Like they 540 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: use mercury quicksilver to bind to gold, and they're handling 541 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,320 Speaker 1: the quicksilver. It's getting everywhere, they're leaving it behind, it's 542 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: going in the soil, it's going in the water. Um 543 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 1: and that's just like one problem with it. They do 544 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: nothing to remediate, like they're the diesel exhaust or anything 545 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: like that. It's just a really big problem. Is this 546 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: Guiana completely unregulated or operation? By definition, it's it's a 547 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,440 Speaker 1: rogue operation. It's just unlicensed mining operation. And it's not 548 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: just Guiana that has that problem. It's around the world 549 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: there's wildcat mining, but they have a particularly bad problem 550 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: with it. Man, And I bet they make a dollar 551 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: a day. Oh yeah, you know, very sad um. Well, 552 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:04,560 Speaker 1: we might as well talk about the human toll since 553 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: that's where we are. Like I said before, major accidents 554 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: of the one you're gonna hear about. But as example, uh, 555 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 1: in two thousand ten, um about Chinese miners died, but 556 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: none of them were big, big accidents. So you didn't 557 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: really hear about a lot of that. Yeah, I'm sure 558 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: you didn't hear about in China. I know I didn't 559 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: hear about it. But yeah, in China they were like 560 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 1: that's a big death. Hol though miner's family received windfall, 561 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:36,880 Speaker 1: why they got paid out? Yeah? Um, and you talked 562 00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: about was it in two thousand ten Chilean and West Virginia? 563 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: That same year there was twenty nine people killed, thirty 564 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,200 Speaker 1: one people at the Upper Big Branch mine in West Virginia, 565 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: Matthew Energy Mine, New Zealand and other twenty nine people 566 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: died that same year, Yeah, twenty nine thirty one. Again 567 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: of the people present, twenty nine thirty one died at 568 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Pike River Mine. Things are getting better though, like a 569 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: lot of these accidents. Um, well, like you said, sometimes 570 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: just uh tremmors. Like we said earlier, sometimes there are explosions. Um. 571 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: You know, these gases can ignite, there's underground gases. It's 572 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: just it's really just volatile down there, and and in 573 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: developed countries though there's not supposed to be explosions, Like 574 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 1: the mining operations are supposed to be sophisticated enough these 575 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,360 Speaker 1: days that there should not be explosives. I remember Massive 576 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: Energy gotten big trouble because they just were totally lax 577 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 1: about safety precautions that kind of stuff, and some miners 578 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: blew up because of it. Man. Uh. And then of 579 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,240 Speaker 1: course the health risks that are long term. We mentioned 580 00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: black long, but uh, you know it doesn't have to 581 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: be just black long. Uh. There are all sorts of 582 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: things you can breathe in, welding fumes, radon, mercury, all 583 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: kinds of respiratory disease that can arise from being down 584 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: there without even like a hanky over your out. In 585 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: some of these photos, it's just doesn't make sense. Yeah, 586 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: I would wear at least a dust mask. You would 587 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 1: be down there anyway I could mind. I'd be like 588 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 1: Derek zu Leander's family. He'd be break room. Josh, go 589 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 1: wake up, just make him do it. But you did 590 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,600 Speaker 1: mention remediation a second ago, and um, you know it's 591 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:29,440 Speaker 1: all gotten better, safer and more strict environmentally speaking. But 592 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: there are different depending on where you are, they're different 593 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,080 Speaker 1: remediation laws and rules from take care of it right now, 594 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: like you were never there, which, let's be honest, it's 595 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: got to be impossible, right, um too, you know, come 596 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: back every year and check on it if you want. 597 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 1: I remember in the Abandoned Minds episode, it's like there's 598 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: a lot of really dangerous spots, especially out west, that 599 00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: are just abandoned minds, that people just walked away from. 600 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: And if a company liquidates and you don't really know 601 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: who the owners were, then there's not a lot you 602 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 1: can do. Should we talk about the canary? I think 603 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: we should. Man, you've heard the phrase canary in a 604 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: coal mine, um, which I never really understood, not where 605 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: it came from. But I didn't even know what they were, 606 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: what people meant by that until more recently. It's like, 607 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: you know, the indicator that things are about to go south. Yeah, 608 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: I get it now, but I would just hear it 609 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: and go like, I don't know what that means. Well, 610 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: there's actual like legitimacy to it, right. Yeah. There was 611 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: a guy named John Holdain who was quite the self 612 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,280 Speaker 1: experiment or he would he would try and kill himself, 613 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: or that it's not true. He would try and bring 614 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: himself near death. By sitting in rooms full of gases 615 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: so he could record results. Amazing. Yeah, my hat is 616 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: always off to scientists who getting picked themselves. YEA love 617 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: of those guys. Really. He was also very sharp right 618 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,960 Speaker 1: from his studies. He found out that carbon monoxide poisoning 619 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: stained tissues red with hemoglobin, right, and so, uh, he's 620 00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: working in the nineties here he noticed that miners um 621 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 1: would come up with, you know, bright flushed faces. It's 622 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,000 Speaker 1: mysteriously dead. And he figured out probably carbon monoxide poisoning. 623 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:22,880 Speaker 1: So he said, you know what you guys should do. 624 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: You should start carrying canaries down there with you. Yeah, 625 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: think of something really mean you could do to an animal, right, 626 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 1: and carry it down there in a cage. And if 627 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: the canary dies, then that means you have troubles. You 628 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: turn and run. Yeah, because apparently birds, uh, the way 629 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 1: they breathe there there, they're getting twice as much oxygen 630 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 1: or just intake as a human both. Okay, I guess 631 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: that they're breathing in twice as much because of the 632 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: way they're a little for a feathery little system works. Yeah, 633 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,759 Speaker 1: which is pretty I didn't know. This is from a 634 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:06,800 Speaker 1: think is motor article. Maybe from esther inglis arkel Um, 635 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 1: and she points out that a bird's respiratory system when 636 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: they suck in air, some of it goes to basically 637 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: like their lungs and perfuses their blood with oxygen, right um. 638 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,280 Speaker 1: But some of it also goes to these secondary sacks 639 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: that just kind of hold it there. And then when 640 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 1: the bird exhales that that air that never went to 641 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: the lungs goes through the lungs, so they're getting oxygen 642 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: on the way in and the way out. But that 643 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,439 Speaker 1: also means that whatever they're sucking in when they take 644 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: in that breath, they also get on the way in 645 00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 1: and the way out, which makes them very susceptible to 646 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: dying from poisoned air. But great if they're not in 647 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 1: a mine and they want to fly around because they're 648 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: super oxygen eated. But if you can get your hands 649 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: on them and shove them in a cave and take 650 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: them down no mind with you, you can use them 651 00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 1: as an indicator. Yeah, And then she pointed out even 652 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,840 Speaker 1: if they didn't breathe this way, just the fact that 653 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: they're birds, theoretically you could probably take any animal, small 654 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,839 Speaker 1: animal down there. Then if it died before human. Then 655 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: that's probably bad. But birds were small to put them 656 00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 1: in a cage easy. And then they had the whole 657 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 1: double doubling down on breathing that What was that was? 658 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: Wasn't that a KFC sandwich? The double down? It's probably 659 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: I think it was. You got anything else? Nope? 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