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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and I Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio Podcast. Hello, my little peanuts, it's me your host,

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is Frosted Tips of me Lance Bass

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Speaker 1: with my lovely, beautiful, handsome co host Michael Churchin.

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Speaker 2: That's it, no other adject I'm just kidding. That was

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Speaker 2: very nice, you babe. Thank you, and I'm happy to

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Speaker 2: be here.

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Speaker 3: That's another. Let's start this week.

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Speaker 1: We've had requests to not just go right into the interview,

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Speaker 1: because you know, we we go along in these interviews.

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Speaker 1: So I want to get as many questions as I

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Speaker 1: can with these these teen idols for you guys. But

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Speaker 1: I guess apparently you want to hear from us too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, who knew so Turkey? Yeah, you have some

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Speaker 1: questions here I do. Let's get into Evin.

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Speaker 3: There's also a question for me.

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Speaker 1: I know I have one for you because people want

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Speaker 1: to know you, Okay, they do.

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Speaker 3: They want to really get to know you. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm so wondered. Okay, But the first question for

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Speaker 2: you Lance from Rats Ruby r Z. I loved your

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Speaker 2: wedding special. This is how she talks? Was you ever

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Speaker 2: considered doing a reality show?

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Speaker 3: Where is she from? Exactly? I don't know. How do

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Speaker 3: they talk like the.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like your your blueth Iceland character mixed with

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Speaker 1: someone from Georgia in eighteen eighty eight.

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Speaker 2: Well, she's from Georgia in eighth and eighty eight, but

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Speaker 2: she spent a summa in Iceland. He loves the auction

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Speaker 2: and has adopted as her personality.

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Speaker 1: We gotta get Rachel on the show. She sounds very interesting.

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Speaker 1: It's all right, all right. The wedding special, Yes, loved

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Speaker 1: doing that. It took us a while to agree to

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Speaker 1: do that because you know, in this business, when you

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Speaker 1: do a wedding special, and especially a ten year anniversary

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Speaker 1: remarry thing, what do you call that? Oh, you do

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Speaker 1: your vowel. It's never a good thing for the wedding.

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Speaker 1: It's like the kiss of death for a relationship. So

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Speaker 1: that's what always went through my head. I'm like, no,

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Speaker 1: if we have a wedding special, that's just like the

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Speaker 1: kiss of death, and that's just you know, asking to

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Speaker 1: get divorced in the next next year. But then, you know,

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Speaker 1: we got convinced to do it because of the bigger picture.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the first you know, gay wedding special

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Speaker 1: on television, and I felt like that's you know, people

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Speaker 1: youn't need to see that, especially if a family from

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Speaker 1: my hometown of Mississippi, you know where, and especially at

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Speaker 1: that time, same sex marriage was not even legal, so

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Speaker 1: you know, we were still trying to convince people that

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Speaker 1: we're not going to destroy the world if we get

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Speaker 1: married to the person that we love. So I'm very

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Speaker 1: happy that we ended up doing that. I wish I

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Speaker 1: could go back and enjoy it a little more because

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Speaker 1: it just really and all of those that are married,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you have the same feeling. It just flew

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Speaker 1: by so quickly and you're talking to everyone and you

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Speaker 1: just you don't know, you don't really get to enjoy

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Speaker 1: the moment because you're kind of there for everyone else.

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Speaker 1: So I think if we went back, I would really

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Speaker 1: enjoy the moment more, and I would actually eat something.

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Speaker 1: I know, I would actually have a drink and have

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Speaker 1: a drink drink.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, I loved it, and look our

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Speaker 1: ten years coming up, so maybe we can Oh wait, no,

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Speaker 1: that's the kiuse of death.

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Speaker 3: We can't do that. Well, we're not going to televise it.

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Speaker 3: Oh no, true, we're not going to You're a renewal,

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Speaker 3: it's just going to be an anniversary part.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm one of those people think that's so cheesy.

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Speaker 3: It's so cheesy. Just have a party. Just have a party.

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Speaker 3: You don't get a renew anything, like you're married. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're good. Death to your part.

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Speaker 1: If you've done it, great, that's all. It's just not

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Speaker 2: And if you're into it, I guess yeah, if you

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Speaker 1: And would we ever consider doing a reality show? Oh,

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Speaker 1: we've considered it many times.

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Speaker 3: But we said no, no, many, many, many times. I

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Speaker 1: Just does exactly agreed. If it was now with kids,

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Speaker 3: I don't. I don't want them to have that exposure.

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Speaker 3: If it was like our other I don't know. Like

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Speaker 3: it was asked to be the Housewise of Beverly Hills

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Speaker 1: Ever join in my entire life. Oh God, you'd be

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Speaker 1: so good on housewives, I know. I think that's the

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills. If you joined with her, I think she

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Speaker 3: You would h well, we need to and Andy here

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Speaker 3: groundbreaking Michael.

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Speaker 1: If you could be a member of any boy band,

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Speaker 1: which one would you choose?

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Speaker 3: And why? Oh wow?

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Speaker 2: I to be honest, I would have I would pick

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Speaker 2: a uh like I Forgot Boys. No, I wouldn't actually

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Speaker 2: know what's where Harry styles is from one direction. One direction.

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Speaker 2: You didn't have to dance, And even though I know

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Speaker 2: I would have loved to dance, like dancing, was.

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, because you're a good dancer. Yeah, but no,

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Speaker 3: I would have picked.

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Speaker 1: What they call it, one direction, one d You're not

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Speaker 3: We're not going to talk about it. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the contraction, but because yeah, they didn't have to

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Speaker 4: their contracts, they actually made a lot of money during their.

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Speaker 1: I hope, so I hope that's not just what they say.

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Speaker 3: But yeah they say they make no I think they

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Speaker 1: I mean they because again they came from TV and

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Speaker 3: They weren't they were, like, you know, kind of later

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Speaker 3: way more. They didn't have a loop Perroman taking all

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Speaker 2: Real Listen, I just want to have a a So

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Speaker 2: you're a lot of money for the money and the fame, Listen,

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Speaker 2: you guys went through a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to have to go through all that.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's another question, our last one before you

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Speaker 1: get it to Dan Miller from Avy Gay Eye.

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Speaker 3: Hiller, I love them.

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Speaker 1: What's a part of parenting that you didn't expect that

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Speaker 1: I didn't expect.

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Speaker 3: I oh, I kind of expected everything. Yeah, nothing really surprised.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing. I thought I would have to wake up

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Speaker 1: So I thought we were because you always hear that,

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Speaker 1: especially toddlers. They're always sick, right, They're always passive playing

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Speaker 1: in the playgroup, they always have a cold, they're always

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Speaker 3: Our kids have not been sick. I know I've been sick.

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Speaker 3: You've been sick. I think they've gotten they've not been sick.

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Speaker 1: They hold it well. If they're sick, you don't know it. No, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they'll have a little running nose, but they I agree.

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Speaker 1: I thought that we would be doing many nights at

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Speaker 1: three in the morning giving if they can't breathe, they're crying.

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Speaker 3: They're miserable, they have a fever. We're going right.

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Speaker 1: Now because I mean, yeah, so far, it's been twenty

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't need that.

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Speaker 1: But they have not started school yet. And that's where

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Speaker 1: I hear that it all goes down because those kids.

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Speaker 3: Are gross sick thick.

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Speaker 1: All right, guys, let's take a little break when we

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Speaker 1: come back. See that was that's good talking at.

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Speaker 3: The beginning, right. I think you learned a lot about it.

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Speaker 3: We learned so much. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I would like to be Harry's Styles, Yeah is what

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Speaker 2: That's what I should have said.

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Speaker 1: I wish you were Harry Styles.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's take a little break.

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Speaker 5: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm just saying it would be good for you

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Speaker 1: because you would have a really let's go to the break.

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Speaker 1: Amazing career going on right now. You go to this

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Speaker 1: break would have dated Taylor Swift. Yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 3: I wish you were Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: I wish I was Taylor Swift too. Okay, well, all right,

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Speaker 1: let's get out to a break. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have Otown's Dan Miller on frosted dips. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get into this.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Mark Miller was born in New Hampshire but raised

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Speaker 1: most of his life in Ohio. He's been singing and

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Speaker 1: dancing since he was young. Dan is the eldest of

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Speaker 1: about nineteen or twenty years old, he auditioned for the

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Speaker 1: band Otown, but didn't make it. Okay, really, Inspio, we

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Speaker 1: can't figure if he was nineteen twenty. I think we

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Speaker 1: could easily go to Google and find the south. Shortly afterwards,

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Speaker 1: one of Otown's group's members made the choice to quit

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Speaker 1: members all picked Dan to be a Kaika's replacement. He

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Speaker 1: has been writing music, touring, performing and singing with the

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Speaker 1: group ever since. Dan Miller, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 6: Lanson Michael, thank you for having me real quick. I

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Speaker 6: am officially the most boring person you've ever had on

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Speaker 5: I just want to get it out there.

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Speaker 6: I think it will be painfully obvious to everybody moving.

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Speaker 5: Forward that I'm the most lame pop star in the

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Speaker 5: history of the world.

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Speaker 1: You've obviously not met mister Joey Fatone.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty lame, pretty lame as it comes.

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Speaker 1: With boy band members, Dan, I'm so excited to have you.

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Speaker 1: We I've been asking the fans, who do we think

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Speaker 1: what boy band is going to be completed on frosted

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Speaker 1: tips And we're almost done with Otown, so we have

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Speaker 1: one more to go, So you guys might be the one.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're pretty easy to get a hold up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think is that? I think.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that's a good thing. I think

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Speaker 5: I think we're just we're just easy. Can you reach

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Speaker 5: out to us?

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Speaker 3: Lance, We're there for you and I love that so much.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of band members, we always like to do this

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Speaker 1: at the top of the show. If you were to

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Speaker 1: text your band members right now, who do you think

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Speaker 1: would be the first to text your back? And I

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Speaker 1: think you should try it right now, just to prove it. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: get in there. You have to don't say your own

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Speaker 1: frosted tips. They're probably gonna gotcha. Yeah, but you got

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Speaker 1: to say some random obscure question.

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Speaker 5: It's going to be Jacob, that's what it would be.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, it's going to be Jacob. It's mainly

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Speaker 5: I started doing choreography for the for the show Choir.

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Speaker 1: My mom's a great singer, but you know, does music.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't think I have anybody. There's nobody that

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Speaker 6: I actually thought about trying out for the cow State

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00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,440
Speaker 6: Long Beach men's basketball team, just.

445
00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:42,680
Speaker 5: To like try it to see if I do have

446
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:43,560
Speaker 5: that obsessed with it.

447
00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,960
Speaker 6: Right. But with that being said, so I thought my

448
00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,119
Speaker 6: son was going to be a basketball player, right, I

449
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,320
Speaker 6: was convinced. But from the time he was born, all

450
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,880
Speaker 6: he wanted to do was pick up a soccer ball

451
00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,120
Speaker 6: and all that's.

452
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,440
Speaker 5: All he's done. I mean, he does try everything.

453
00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,040
Speaker 6: But soccer is this thing now and now me, it

454
00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:01,639
Speaker 6: was like a complete nut job.

455
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,960
Speaker 5: I am a co owner of a.

456
00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:08,760
Speaker 6: Soccer trading facility and a soccer club in Arizona, so like, so.

457
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:12,680
Speaker 5: I've traded Like so I've traded in. So I've traded in.

458
00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:16,760
Speaker 6: Like all this this basketball fanaticism for soccer, and I'm

459
00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,600
Speaker 6: doing the same thing on the weekends. I actually had

460
00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,080
Speaker 6: just this past weekend, we had a show in just

461
00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,960
Speaker 6: outside of Chicago, and I had to leave the biggest

462
00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,600
Speaker 6: youth soccer tournament in the country to go and it

463
00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,120
Speaker 6: was like it was the worst.

464
00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 5: Like I it was.

465
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,399
Speaker 6: It was the first time since I got back together,

466
00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,160
Speaker 6: like we started otown reunited, like three weeks after.

467
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 5: My daughter was born and I left to go on

468
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,320
Speaker 5: road three weeks, which was the worst. I hated. I

469
00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 5: almost put the band. Every weekend I went around the

470
00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:48,359
Speaker 5: road who shows and I regretted every second of it

471
00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 5: that I went.

472
00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 6: But this was the first time since then that I

473
00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,280
Speaker 6: went to do a show, and it was an amazing

474
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:53,959
Speaker 6: show there was.

475
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,360
Speaker 5: It was one of the biggest shows we had ever

476
00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:56,359
Speaker 5: had with Pop two thousand.

477
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,760
Speaker 6: There was like thirteen thousand people who showed up Justice

478
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,000
Speaker 6: two thousand, right, and I got off stage and I

479
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 6: wasn't happy, like we had an amazing show. All I

480
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 6: could think about, how is how I missed one game

481
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:11,000
Speaker 6: at this soccer tournament and like it was the worst?

482
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 5: Like so so okay, I got off track. Long story short,

483
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 5: it does it doesn't matter.

484
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,840
Speaker 6: I think you'll like, you can force your kids one way,

485
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 6: but ultimately you're just gonna want to see them happy

486
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 6: and want to see them succeed. So if you want

487
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:25,880
Speaker 6: to force them to play baseball but they suck at baseball,

488
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 6: you're not gonna want to see play baseball anymore.

489
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 5: You know, Well, how.

490
00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:32,680
Speaker 1: Do you balance the the career and the family life?

491
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: Do you?

492
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: Because obviously family comes first, but you know, Otown is

493
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,399
Speaker 1: such a huge business in your own tour all the time.

494
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 1: Are there certain roles that you put on your your career,

495
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,720
Speaker 1: like no, I will only spend this many months a

496
00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 1: year doing this, or you know, or give the guys like, look,

497
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 1: I could only have this weekend off that type of stuff.

498
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:52,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's exactly right.

499
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 6: When we first got back together, I was the last

500
00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 6: one to agree to join, and pretty much what I

501
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,760
Speaker 6: said to the guys was like I can do this,

502
00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 6: but you need to work around me. So and they

503
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 6: were so cool with it. They were like, yeah, So

504
00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 6: I was like, I will only I had I had

505
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,119
Speaker 6: all of these demands and pretty much I don't think

506
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 6: they really knew what they were agreeing to, but they

507
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,400
Speaker 6: just said yes to kind of get me to do it.

508
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,879
Speaker 6: So it was like in the beginning, it was like,

509
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 6: I will only do you know, travel two weekends of

510
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,040
Speaker 6: the month, and I need to know three months in advance,

511
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:23,960
Speaker 6: how long you know which shows were going to and

512
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 6: how far?

513
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 5: And I had all these little things we need to

514
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,080
Speaker 5: rehearse where.

515
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 6: I'm at so I don't need to travel for rehearsals

516
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 6: stuff like that, and all along the way they were

517
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,520
Speaker 6: really cool about doing that to this day. Like when

518
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 6: we do rehearsals, they come to me, which is so

519
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 6: helpful with travel. Like, but again, I'm pretty lame, so

520
00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 6: I fly in on red eyes, I'm always I'm always

521
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 6: the last one to get there, and then as soon

522
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 6: as the shows are done, I'm on the earliest.

523
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,040
Speaker 5: Flight to get home.

524
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 6: So like, I've kind of made all these like little

525
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,760
Speaker 6: things to make make me miss as little family time

526
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 6: as possible while while not while not have it sacrifice

527
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 6: what we're trying to do with the Bandstuh, that's great.

528
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: It's so important to have that balance, and I love

529
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: that you have figured that out because I'm sure a

530
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 1: lot of musicians on the road still have not figured

531
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: out that that fine balance family and career. Yeah, yeah,

532
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 1: all right, let's get into how you got in the band.

533
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: So you know, Ashley told us he had a manager

534
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720
Speaker 1: that sent him to this audition. Trevor did a self

535
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: tape video with a friend. The friend got called in.

536
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:23,680
Speaker 3: He did not.

537
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:26,560
Speaker 1: How did you get to the auditions?

538
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:32,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was on the MTV website and I was

539
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 6: looking for information to audition for the real world actually,

540
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 6: which is funny because again I would have been the

541
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 6: worst Real World cast member of all time. I'm horrible

542
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 6: on TV. I don't like talking about myself. I don't

543
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 6: like drama, Like I would have been the worst, the

544
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 6: worst Real World. But while while I was on there,

545
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,280
Speaker 6: I saw a link that said, you know, do you

546
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 6: think you It was something like I forget what it was,

547
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 6: but it was something like, do you think you could

548
00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 6: be an in sync or backs?

549
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 5: It was something like that, you know, And I was like, yeah,

550
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 5: like I.

551
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 3: Did train in my whole life. Yeah, to this.

552
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 5: Day, I would. I would leave Otown in a heartbeat.

553
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 6: I say, Kevin needed a member to fill in, right, So,

554
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 6: like I knew for a fact that I could do this,

555
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,880
Speaker 6: and I just I submitted a videotape and the rest

556
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 6: was kind of history. I actually decided to go, Like

557
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 6: you submitted a videotape and I planned to go to

558
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 6: whatever the local audition was.

559
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 4: For me.

560
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 5: It was Nashville.

561
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 6: I was at the University of Cincinnati at the time,

562
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:33,680
Speaker 6: and I decided to even though I hadn't heard back

563
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,920
Speaker 6: from my audition tape, I decided to go anyway.

564
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 5: In the morning, I was driving up to Nashville, I got.

565
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 6: A phone call say, hey, you got a call back,

566
00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 6: would you mind coming out to Nashville today and come

567
00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 6: to this audition?

568
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,400
Speaker 5: Which I did.

569
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: Wow, Now the intro that I did said you were

570
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,240
Speaker 1: nineteen or twenty years old?

571
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:51,719
Speaker 3: Can we squash this right now?

572
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 5: How old were.

573
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 3: You when you auditioned? I was nineteen Internet, we could

574
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: put that to.

575
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: Wikipedia, Babe Calwick right now? So yeah, so nineteen years old?

576
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: I mean you're just what you're a sophomore in college

577
00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:08,160
Speaker 1: at this time?

578
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah?

579
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 1: Were you thinking was it in the back of your

580
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: mind that you could ever get this part, like get

581
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 1: into this band or was this just something fun for you?

582
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 5: M No.

583
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 6: I mean I I grew up in a very like again,

584
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 6: my parents had nothing to do with music business. We

585
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 6: lived in Ohio. The Internet wasn't a big thing like

586
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 6: it's you know, and so I didn't know and my

587
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 6: parents didn't know that these kind of opportunities were out

588
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 6: there for people, right. So, Like, you know, when I

589
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 6: was a kid and I said, Mom, can I really

590
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 6: think I should go audition for the Mickey Mouse Club?

591
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 6: She was like, ah, you know, like it was kind

592
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 6: of she never discouraged me, but you know, she did

593
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 6: also didn't like, didn't push you jump, jump in the

594
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 6: car and drive to Orlando.

595
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: Yeah. Mom.

596
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, And in fairness, like most at that time, without

597
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 6: having any information and not being a stage mom, who

598
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:02,000
Speaker 6: would like who.

599
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 3: Would do that?

600
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: And I also want their kids to be told no,

601
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: you know chance, you're probably not gonna make it.

602
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, So like I did.

603
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 6: I always I felt like I was talented, but I

604
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 6: grew up in a small town in Ohio, and I

605
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 6: felt like it was a big fish in a small pond.

606
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 6: But to my parents' credit, when I told them that

607
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 6: I was, you know, literally dropping out of school college

608
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 6: in the middle of a week, in the middle of

609
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 6: midterms to go to Orlando to try this thing out,

610
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,879
Speaker 6: my parents like, yeah, go, it's awesome.

611
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 5: You have to do it, you know what I mean.

612
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 6: So it's like, I don't know, I never thought that

613
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 6: it would really happen, But once I got there, I

614
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 6: was like, I'm not a confident person.

615
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 5: I really am not. But once I got there, I was.

616
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 6: Like, yeah, I'm good enough to do this, you know,

617
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 6: because I mean, granted, there were some other people there

618
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 6: who were not very good, so that made me feel

619
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,199
Speaker 6: good about myself.

620
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: That's always a great home.

621
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 6: Some of the some of the guys that Lou brought

622
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: in for this audition were we're we're we're not the

623
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 6: most talented.

624
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 3: Play sure there were all his limo drivers at one point.

625
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was one or two limo drish.

626
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. That was a comment threat. For sure.

627
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: I remember when when Justin and Lou called my house

628
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 1: and talked to my mom the first time. It was

629
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 1: probably like a one minute conversation. She's like, yeah, we're good, thanks.

630
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: And kind of yeah. It didn't even tell me about

631
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: the first call.

632
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: I'm like okay, and then the second call, you know,

633
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: she was like, well, maybe this is real. I don't know.

634
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: She tried to sabotage.

635
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 1: Sabotage again. Yeah, but no, it was very very supportive.

636
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I was sixteen years old and I'm like, hey, Mom,

637
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: I'm going to go to Orlando and uh, you know,

638
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: move away, quit high school, you know whatever. It's going

639
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: to really agree with that.

640
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 3: I'm sure at that point you barely probably left the state.

641
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: I had probably left the state well Florida, of course,

642
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: as we go to the Beach so or Disney World,

643
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 1: so Florida, we drove. Oh yeah, we did the whole

644
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: twelve fourteen hours all the time. Yeah, we never got

645
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: on a plane. Please, that's for rich Pittsford city folks.

646
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: That's for city folks.

647
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: They didn't fly you out. You have to pay for

648
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: your own.

649
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: No, they flew me out. That was the first time

650
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: was on a plane. Yeah, they flew Oh I thought

651
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,240
Speaker 1: you meant just when I would.

652
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 3: Oh.

653
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,639
Speaker 1: No, they rolled out the red carpet for me. They

654
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: flew me out. I landed Orlando. Justin's there at the

655
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: the baggage clan looking oh cool, Like, what's that dude

656
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: in his big silver puffy jacket. And they got lou

657
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Proman there rolling up with his Rolls Royce and limo.

658
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, which do I choose? The limo of

659
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: the Rolls Royce.

660
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 5: But where did you go? Where did they take you?

661
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 5: This is a test. Where did they take you straight

662
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 5: from the.

663
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: Airport to the house that we were going to be

664
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: living in?

665
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 5: Oh? So they didn't take you to Lose House?

666
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, we didn't see Lose House for

667
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: a bit. I mean the guys had, but I was

668
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: the last to join. So the guys were already living

669
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: at a house there on sand Lake Road. So I

670
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,160
Speaker 1: went there and I pulled up and they're playing basketball.

671
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 1: It was either basketball or hockey. I think it was basketball, which,

672
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,480
Speaker 1: unlike you, I can't stand basketball. I don't mind watching it,

673
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,360
Speaker 1: I just can't play it, and it makes me look

674
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: so much anxiety. Uh.

675
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 3: And so as I roll.

676
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: Up and they're all playing basketball, I'm like, oh, no,

677
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: they're gonna hate me and they're gonna to play basketball.

678
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: So anxiety was already flowing through me immediately when I

679
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: pulled up into this house.

680
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 6: Well, I had a different when I when I got

681
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: escorted from the airport, we went directly to lose House

682
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 6: and I got there and I wasn't picked up by

683
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 6: the band.

684
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 5: I was picked up by one of those limo drivers

685
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 5: you were talking about.

686
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 6: And I was picked up and I brought to the house,

687
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 6: and I had different anxiety because when I got there,

688
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 6: the other members of the band were all in lose

689
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 6: pool and they were all having a chicken fight.

690
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 5: They were all chicken fighting, like I.

691
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 6: Think Jacob was on loose shoulders, and I'm like, I

692
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 6: thought to myself, I was like, I was like, my

693
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 6: anxiety was more like, oh, this is the best place

694
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 6: for me, because this seems weird. It seems so weird.

695
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 6: From my very first time, I was like, this can't

696
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 6: be what it was. It was too boy bandy even

697
00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 6: for me.

698
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know they seen a yeah exactly like the

699
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: gasoline fight and zoom Lander.

700
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: You're like, what the hell am I getting myself into?

701
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: That's what I felt like.

702
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's a yeah, that's like cheese tastic right there.

703
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: You sang terror in my Heart Heart for the audition.

704
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: I feel like they only chose three songs that everyone

705
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: could sing because I swear every person I know that

706
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: audition for O Town singing Terror at my.

707
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 3: Heart it was a you know, it was a canty

708
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 3: song back then. Yeah, it was not the only thing

709
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 3: they could approve for ABC.

710
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 1: Exactly what it was that song?

711
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 6: Well again that we only had like three songs, and

712
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 6: you know it was I remember tearing up my Heart

713
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 6: being one.

714
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 5: I Feel like a Girl on TV by LFO was

715
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 5: another one, okay, and I feel like that may have

716
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 5: been it.

717
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 6: As we got later, we were able to sing I

718
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 6: swear by all for one at some point, but that

719
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 6: was really it. So yeah, I mean it is a

720
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 6: great song, but I really had no other options. I

721
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 6: would have sung something. I would have sung like something

722
00:29:59,440 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 6: more harmed.

723
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 5: At the time, I.

724
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: Had a choice because we all thought we were R

725
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: and B. You know, on top of all already being

726
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: so stressed out for this experience having an audition for

727
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: this group, you're being filmed the whole time too, and

728
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: like you said, you you says you're not you're not

729
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,680
Speaker 1: built for television. How did you feel about that element

730
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: of this experience of just being filmed the whole time.

731
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 5: Well, the unique thing for us is that, like now

732
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 5: everybody knows what it's like to have a camera in

733
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 5: your face everywhere you go, Like everybody, everybody who gets

734
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 5: into the entertainment business, like that's almost before talent.

735
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: Well, everybody born now has a camera in their face.

736
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: I mean, our poor children have a camera in their face.

737
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: I would say fifty time, we're always like, oh, like

738
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 1: how cute this is. Oh we're on FaceTime with Grandpa.

739
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 3: So yeah, they're just cameras everywhere.

740
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 5: But when we started, like that wasn't like a thing.

741
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 6: I just and I didn't know I was bad on

742
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 6: camera until I was on camera all the time and

743
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 6: I saw it back and I was like, you know,

744
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 6: I just realized how much more comfortable the other guys

745
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 6: looked in their interviews or when they're when they're just

746
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 6: having a regular conversation that.

747
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 5: I just didn't You didn't. You didn't know, Like there.

748
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 6: Was plenty of times. You know now you see cameras

749
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 6: at every single event you go to. When we started,

750
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 6: we would go to these events with the cameras following us,

751
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 6: and celebrities would run. They didn't want to be anywhere

752
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 6: on camera. They didn't they didn't know what it was about.

753
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 6: They didn't want to be anywhere near. So most people

754
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 6: had no clue what we are even doing, let alone

755
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 6: being And I was included that I had no clue,

756
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 6: So I didn't know I was bad until I was

757
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 6: like smack dab in the middle of it.

758
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I I totally understand that.

759
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 3: I remember.

760
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: And it was also it wasn't TMZ at the time,

761
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: but there was there's some kind of camera thing that

762
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 1: everyone was running fro oh. I wasn't that it was

763
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: Ashton freaking Kutcher with his whole punk So everyone was

764
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: so scared of always being punked. So if you saw

765
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: a camera, if you saw anything, you were just you

766
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: wouldn't do anything. You would freeze. But I remember meeting

767
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: you guys in New York at mug Shots on First Avenue,

768
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: and I think you had the cameras there, but I

769
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: refused to sign the release, like there's no yeah, I can't,

770
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: I can't be and I can't do this. I just

771
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: wanted to get y'all there to warn you all about

772
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: Loup Pearlman. That's like, I gotta tell these guys what

773
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: to look out for. I remember sitting down.

774
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 5: Why did you tell them before the chicken fights fights?

775
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, Oh my gosh.

776
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: So, so what did you know about Loup Pearlman before

777
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: you auditioned? Did you know anything about him?

778
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 6: I mean I knew that, uh he had put together

779
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 6: you guys in Backstory Choice.

780
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 5: That was about it. But shortly after we got there,

781
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 5: shortly after I came.

782
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 6: Back to be in the band, it was pretty widely

783
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 6: known that you guys had already had your lawsuit with

784
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 6: him Backtreet had already had their lawsuit, and uh so

785
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 6: we were kind of like, in some ways we were

786
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: kind of protected because we this was even before we

787
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 6: signed some of our contracts, so we were able to

788
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 6: kind of like, I mean, our contracts sucked horribly, but

789
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 6: but that being said, I mean, well, that's that's up

790
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 6: for debate. We can talk about that. But the point

791
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 6: is that, like we were able to kind of protect

792
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 6: ourselves and be like, all right, let's watch out for

793
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 6: this guy. But ultimately we're a brand new act signing

794
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 6: for the first time, and every artist gets screwed over

795
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 6: on their first contract, or at least that's the way

796
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 6: they told us back then, that's the way to it.

797
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, yeah, crazy.

798
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,640
Speaker 6: Where our where our contract got really, really, really bad

799
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 6: was the fact that we had the TV show tied

800
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 6: into it. So whereas our recording contract was already pretty

801
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 6: bad and we were getting this slice in the pie

802
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 6: that's small, small slice, we were splitting that small slice

803
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 6: three ways between lou and then all of the TV

804
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 6: people involved, so we were splitting with MTV and ABC

805
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 6: as well.

806
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: So when you save all these people, yeah, that is correct.

807
00:33:58,400 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 5: I know.

808
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 6: For a period of time, and they were tea they

809
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 6: were using our contract and at USC law school and

810
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 6: the entertainment law class as the worst contract they had

811
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 6: ever seen.

812
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 5: They were using it to kind.

813
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: Of yeah yeah I didn't, yeah, I forgot. Yeah, you

814
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: have this TV element because look, network screw you big time.

815
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: Record label screw you big time, and you have two

816
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: coming together, you're going to get a double screwed, which

817
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: is good in some cases, but in this case it's horrible.

818
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it was a good one.

819
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,280
Speaker 1: But I'm glad. Did you have so with making the band?

820
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: Did y'all make any money off that? Or was the

821
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 1: ABC like we're taking all of this, Like did y'all

822
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 1: get to see any of that?

823
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 5: So that making the band?

824
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 6: We actually did get to see it so good With Lou,

825
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:40,959
Speaker 6: I mean you you know how Lou was like, oh.

826
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: He's the six members of the band, right right, yeah.

827
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 6: So but to make it even worse, like it's one

828
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 6: thing to be the sixth member of the band, but

829
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 6: then he still pays everybody else their share. But what

830
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 6: would happen with Lou is all the money would come

831
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 6: in and then when we like, hey, like we're doing

832
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 6: some money, right, and he would say, well, like sue

833
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 6: me for it, like rather than paying you like like

834
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 6: a no contract says you would kind of want to

835
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 6: need tossue him for it.

836
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: Whereas at least with the TV show, it was like.

837
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 6: All right, I'm due to make this much money and

838
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 6: it's delivered on this day, you know. So we made

839
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 6: a little bit of money, not nearly as much as

840
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,360
Speaker 6: some of the reality stars made in the in the future,

841
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 6: just because we were it was different, you know, it

842
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 6: was different back then. We didn't know although, you know,

843
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 6: like I actually got lucky because again you mentioned I

844
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 6: joined the band late. One of the guys that was

845
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 6: in the band at Kaika quit and he quit after

846
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe like three fourths of the filming

847
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 6: for season one was done, and then I came for

848
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 6: the last quarter and I remember it was the day

849
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: that everybody got handed their checks, and through some oversight,

850
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 6: when it came time to give checks, the check that

851
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 6: I got was the exact same amount that all of

852
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 6: the other guys in the band got. And I remember

853
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: thinking I only did a quarter the word that these

854
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 6: guys did, but I got the same check that they got.

855
00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 6: So I was kind of thinking they didn't know what

856
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 6: to do with the Kaika was money, they just gave

857
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 6: it to me.

858
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 5: I was happy with that, I think.

859
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 3: So you like that.

860
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: I think, so I hope Kai is not listening to

861
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: this right now.

862
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 5: I know, I know, well it's thattual limitation.

863
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, but why did a Kaika leave the group?

864
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever asked this question.

865
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 5: If I don't know, I've never actually talked to him.

866
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's kind of weird.

867
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 6: We I mean we've only passed across paths a handful

868
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 6: of times. Yeah, and uh, you know one I get

869
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 6: the impression he was kind of like me and that

870
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 6: like he didn't know what he was signing up for

871
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 6: when he got got in there. And it's a big

872
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 6: difference coming from where he came from. And I need

873
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 6: to move to move to Orland.

874
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: Well, I've seen the common denominator for a lot of

875
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: our groups is uh that it's never the original group.

876
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: There's always like one person that wants to drop out.

877
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: Me even us, I replaced a guy yea. And the

878
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: common thing that I find is they all got into

879
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,839
Speaker 1: it and said, oh, this isn't the market I want

880
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: to go to. They thought it was this kid market

881
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: that they.

882
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 3: Just didn't want to touch.

883
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: You know, there were two they were too good for that,

884
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: and so they leave. Even the Beatles, you know, they

885
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: had what Pete beste best So like every group had

886
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: that guy that you know that left, And thank God

887
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: for them, because we wouldn't be here to get together

888
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: talking right now.

889
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 6: Wasn't there a guy that was offered the chance of

890
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 6: being both in Sync and Backstreet?

891
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, because the guy

892
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: I replaced was one of Joey's best friends.

893
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 3: But maybe he could have auditioned.

894
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 5: I don't know, Chris, I thought there was a guy

895
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 5: named was it Charlie?

896
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: Maybe there's there is a guy Charlie that's that. Kirkpatrick knows, Yeah, I.

897
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 5: Mean, speaking of doubles, speaking of double screwed, you know,

898
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 5: missing out on.

899
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 1: Kirkpatrick has all the answers because he was He watched

900
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: this whole thing.

901
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 5: Don't admit that, don't know.

902
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 3: I know, it's very hard to admit. He was there.

903
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: Look, he put the band together. He he could have

904
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: auditioned for Backstreet. But then that Howie Duerou did not

905
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: tell him about it, told oh, that's what was I

906
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: think Charlie might have been in course with them in college,

907
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: and I think maybe Howie asked Charlie's audition that was

908
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: to his left and did not turn to his right

909
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: and asked christ did not ask yeah, yeah, yeah.

910
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 5: There we go.

911
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: So then Chris started his own band, yeah, Chris, I

912
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: know that's the that's the revenge you want. I'm gonna

913
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: start my own, so it's all, yeah, thank you.

914
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 3: Howie, Yeah, you're the bwiebe.

915
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 1: When you were standing there and they called the five

916
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,439
Speaker 1: guys and you did not make it the first time,

917
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 1: what was going through your mind? Because it was you

918
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: were You're right there, so that you had been thinking like, wow,

919
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: I think I made this.

920
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 6: Well again, I'm not a confident person, but in that moment,

921
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,160
Speaker 6: this is bad to say because it's gonna come off.

922
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 5: Wrong, but I don't care. Yeah, I felt like I

923
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 5: was the best one there.

924
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, so when they didn't call me, like like my

925
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 6: delusional brain thought, well, maybe they're saving me for some

926
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 6: solo something.

927
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: But that also know that all other guys also said

928
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: that you were the most talented of everyone and they

929
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: were so surprised that you did not make that final cut.

930
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 5: Well, that's that's very nice of them to say.

931
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 6: And I again, I will fully admit that I am

932
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 6: not meant to be a solo artist. I'm not, like

933
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 6: you know, I can barely handle the interviews and the

934
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 6: and the video stuff right now, and I'm in a band,

935
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 6: so I needed somebody else to lean on.

936
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 5: So I would have been horrible, just like would have

937
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 5: been horrible as a you know, on the rail, and

938
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 5: I also would have been horrible as a solo artist.

939
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 6: But I honestly had so much confidence coming out of

940
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 6: that audition because I went from like I said, I

941
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 6: went came from Ohio and I went to this thing

942
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 6: with which is a nation wide thing, and I felt like,

943
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 6: if not deep, I was up at the top of

944
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 6: the list, or I should have been in talent purposes,

945
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 6: but I was probably near the bottom in terms of

946
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 6: like if the if the people from the television show

947
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 6: were looking for people to cause drama and stuff, I

948
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 6: was somewhere near the bottom.

949
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 5: So all that kind of stuff played into it.

950
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the talent kind of goes in the back

951
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 1: burner sometimes when it comes to tell vision. Yeah, you

952
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: gotta fit that mold for sure. Now, I would have

953
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: assumed that you were automatically in the bands, that you

954
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: had just gone through that same audition process as everyone else,

955
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: but you had to basically audition again to get it

956
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: to the group.

957
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: So so how did you what did you audition with that time?

958
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: And did were you're like, really, guys, really you're gonna

959
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: make Yeah.

960
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 6: I mean to be honest, I think this is one

961
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 6: thing that actually I can say like good about Lou.

962
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 5: For me was I had gone away.

963
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 6: I went back to college, and then they called me

964
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 6: back and I came.

965
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 5: They called me on like.

966
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 6: A Monday, and I was in Orlando on a Wednesday,

967
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 6: and all I told, all I told was like a

968
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 6: trial like it was. I was still auditioning, right, but

969
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 6: pretty much all I was doing was I was I

970
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 6: was in the band. I was just living their schedule.

971
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 6: I was going to choreography, I was going through vocal training.

972
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 5: We were doing well.

973
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: They just wanted an out just in case you're an asshole.

974
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: That's right, Let's give it a good three week trial period.

975
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: If we don't like him, we can kick them out.

976
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 3: Yeah.

977
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 5: And at the end of this week, at the end

978
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:05,279
Speaker 5: of the first week, like my flight was leaving in the.

979
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,200
Speaker 6: Morning, we were all sitting around Lou's house and it

980
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 6: was kind of a really awkward and awkward interaction that

981
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 6: cameras are. There were sitting in you know, this big room,

982
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 6: and louis kind of like bullshitting. He's like talking and

983
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 6: he's talking and talking. He's almost like killing time, and

984
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 6: he kept getting up and leaving the room to talk

985
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 6: with the production staff of ABC and then come back

986
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 6: in and he would bullshit and more and blah blah.

987
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 6: Come to find out, during that time, Lou was waiting

988
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 6: to get confirmation from ABC and MTV that they would

989
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 6: approve me to be in the band and be.

990
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 5: On the show.

991
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 6: More importantly, right, and from everything I've heard, ABC and

992
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,879
Speaker 6: MTV did not want me because I didn't fit what

993
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 6: they had going for him. But to lose credit, he

994
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 6: came back in and like he went above them and

995
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 6: just said, oh, by the way. He came back after

996
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 6: like fifth time coming in out and just said, by.

997
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 5: The way, you're in the band.

998
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,959
Speaker 6: And I kind of thinking back now, I remember looking

999
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 6: around at some of the camera crew and some of

1000
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 6: the production staff going like they were like kind of shocked.

1001
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 5: Then he did that, but they never looked back, and

1002
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 5: I never heard anything. But I didn't find some of

1003
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 5: that stuff out until much later in the process.

1004
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: We have such similarities that kind of happened to me.

1005
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time, but when we signed

1006
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: to BMG AIOLA over in Germany, the president of that

1007
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: label did not want me in the group because my

1008
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: dance skills weren't up to par like everyone else. Yeah,

1009
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: and the guys and Johnny Wright and I guess Lou

1010
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, stood up for me and they're like, no,

1011
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: it's this band or nothing. And they literally were going

1012
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: to say no to this contract if they kicked me out.

1013
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 3: Of this group.

1014
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: And I didn't know that. Two years later, I'm like, wow,

1015
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: and we do only known each other for I mean

1016
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: less than a year, so I'm like, yeah, I could

1017
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: have easily been just dumped, right, It's like, yeah, kick

1018
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 1: him out or getting a record deal. But uh, I mean,

1019
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: how great was that? When you have that that so

1020
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: much support from your your band members and your management,

1021
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 1: it is nice.

1022
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, it did feel good.

1023
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 6: I mean, and I didn't know that story until later,

1024
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 6: But again, it all worked out for us, So I'm

1025
00:42:58,239 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 6: happy about that.

1026
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I know they put you in the group. That must

1027
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: have been an incredible moment. Who was the first person

1028
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: you called when you made the band?

1029
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 6: I think I called my parents, my you know, like again,

1030
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 6: my parents knew nothing about the music business. But when

1031
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 6: it came time to like, I'm dropping out of college

1032
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 6: and I'm going to do this thing and I did

1033
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 6: it once and then I did it again when when

1034
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 6: they called me back, they totally backed me up, and

1035
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 6: then we're supportive of the whole way.

1036
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 5: Well, what did you didn't know?

1037
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 1: What did you do in that hiatus time between not

1038
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: making it and making it, because that was a few

1039
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: months in between back to college, so you just I

1040
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: did right back to college.

1041
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 6: I went back, and it was easy to go back

1042
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 6: to college because, like what everything they told us about

1043
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 6: the show at this point was everything had to be secret.

1044
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 6: We had to sign NDAs, and like we couldn't talk

1045
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 6: about what was happening, who made it, who got cut,

1046
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 6: all this kind of stuff.

1047
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 5: So like, I didn't tell anybody, my best friends in

1048
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 5: the world, I didn't tell. I don't even know.

1049
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: If you didn't tell one person, you have to tell

1050
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: one person.

1051
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 6: I'm sure I told my parents because they were probably

1052
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,839
Speaker 6: wondering what the heck was going on. But yeah, so

1053
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 6: I I went back and I just went back to school,

1054
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,359
Speaker 6: and in the meantime, I was.

1055
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 5: Filled with all this confidence.

1056
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 6: So I was doing all these little things, like I was,

1057
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 6: you know, signing up to perform at talent shows or

1058
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 6: sing national anthem at the running joke was always when they.

1059
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 5: Called me up.

1060
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 6: When Lou called me up back up to kind of

1061
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 6: invite me back, I thought in my head, I thought

1062
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 6: they were inviting me to do some sort of a

1063
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 6: solo project. I didn't know the band was there, so

1064
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 6: I was trying to like pitch myself and tell them

1065
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 6: how cool I am. And I was all excited because

1066
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 6: I was getting I was going to sing the national

1067
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 6: anthem at the Cincinnati Bearcats game in like a couple

1068
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 6: of weeks, and I was all excited about that, and

1069
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 6: I thought that was so.

1070
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 5: About make me like look cooler.

1071
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 6: But now I just just get rubbed in my face.

1072
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 6: And you know, I didn't play it cool I was.

1073
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 6: I was just trying to, like I was trying to

1074
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 6: look cool more than anything else.

1075
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, as a nineteen year old being thrust into

1076
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,800
Speaker 1: the spotlight immediately, I mean, especially because y'all are the

1077
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,400
Speaker 1: first to really bring in I mean, you had the

1078
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: real world and all that, but I feel like you're

1079
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: the reason that reality really took off because especially in

1080
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: the music world, you know, you really got to know

1081
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: these musicians and you have a I don't know, you

1082
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: have this more of a connection with them when you're

1083
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: on TV. And I feel like now every artist these

1084
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 1: days has to have some kind of element of television

1085
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: or close social media.

1086
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:17,879
Speaker 3: Social media.

1087
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: You have to see them, you have to get to

1088
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: know their personalities before you even know their music. What

1089
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: was it like as a nineteen year old? And was

1090
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,240
Speaker 1: this year two thousand and one? Well, here was a two.

1091
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 5: Thousand, two thousand, two thousand and one, so.

1092
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 1: It's still before social media. No one really, I mean

1093
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,279
Speaker 1: half people have cell phones, so it was easier to

1094
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: get around. What was it like being a teen idol

1095
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: at such an early age and just kind of like overnight.

1096
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 6: I had a really hard time with it. I really

1097
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 6: struggle with it because again I don't really like people.

1098
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 6: I liked the little bit of time when was on stage.

1099
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 6: I like being on stage.

1100
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 3: But I did you have a girlfriend at the time.

1101
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 6: I did have a girlfriend at a time that didn't

1102
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 6: last long after we got in the band, and I

1103
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 6: actually had I actually married my high school sweetheart, So

1104
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 6: the one that I met in show choir, we had

1105
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 6: split up for a little bit in college, and then

1106
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 6: we got back together after I joined the band, So

1107
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 6: we're going on twenty.

1108
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,280
Speaker 5: Years now marriage.

1109
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,800
Speaker 6: So that's kind of crazy. But all I've ever wanted

1110
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 6: to be, and this is the god's honest truth. I've

1111
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 6: just always wanted to be normal, Like I just I

1112
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 6: never when I'm on stage, I like being the pop star,

1113
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 6: but when I'm off stage, I hated it. So like,

1114
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 6: I did everything I could, and I maybe even came

1115
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 6: off like a like a dick sometimes that you know,

1116
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 6: to people, because I just did everything I could to.

1117
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: Avoid the spot, right.

1118
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 6: I let the other guy take the lead on that.

1119
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 6: It was like, oh, there's an interview, go ahead, Trev,

1120
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 6: you got this one. I'm gonna go this way.

1121
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of us are just not built for that.

1122
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 1: Some are just true musicians and just like to do

1123
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: the art. And yeah, I have this very you know,

1124
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: normal life. I am not that person. I like and

1125
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: I like to be a goop fall and I like

1126
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: to be stupid in front of a camera. But jc'

1127
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: is that that way?

1128
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: You know.

1129
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: J C never cared for interviews or being out in

1130
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: public or you know, any of the attention at all.

1131
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: He just really cared about just the music. So yeah,

1132
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: I mean everyone has their own way of handling things.

1133
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 3: But that's a good part of a group, you know,

1134
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: it'd be if you had everybody like thirsting for the camera,

1135
00:47:23,239 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 3: it would just be the most annoying group in the world.

1136
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 3: You know, you need to have you need different personalities

1137
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 3: to attract different people. You know, there was a lot

1138
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 3: of people that like the quieter.

1139
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: And see I'm opposite now, so in the group. If

1140
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:37,359
Speaker 1: you watch me in any interviews, I am the most

1141
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: boring person you've ever heard in an interview. I didn't

1142
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: say a word, and.

1143
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: You're very monogential. I don't know, and.

1144
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: Now you know me today is completely polar opposite of

1145
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: what my personality was in this band. But that's also

1146
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 1: because I can be myself. You know, I was just

1147
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: hiding something you were hiding, Yeah, exactly, like to find out.

1148
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: So in two thousand and three, the group disbanded. Now

1149
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: did you know this was coming? Did you embrace this

1150
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,720
Speaker 1: because you like more of a private life?

1151
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 5: Did I know it was coming? No? For us, we

1152
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 5: didn't know that the group was like breaking up. You know.

1153
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 6: It's like we had spent like three to four years

1154
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 6: of like working our butts off every single day for

1155
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 6: like literally four straight years, and we had never gotten

1156
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 6: to the point where we could just say, you know,

1157
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 6: what like we need like a couple months off, a

1158
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 6: little just.

1159
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 3: A little bit out of sight, out of mind.

1160
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 6: And so we and so we took we took a breath,

1161
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:47,320
Speaker 6: and it was just it wasn't even like a breakup.

1162
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 6: It was just like we decided we all needed to

1163
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 6: just just go our separate ways a little bit and

1164
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 6: relax and like reset families and reset. And then before

1165
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 6: we knew it, it was like ten years later.

1166
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: So also because y'all right at the tail end of

1167
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: the boy band craze, right, I mean it started turning

1168
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: into something different, and yeah, so it was just right

1169
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 1: at that tail end, so I could see y'all take

1170
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: a little hiatus and me like, well, is it even

1171
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: worth it to come back now that the fans aren't

1172
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: really there? TRL is not really spinning. In fact, I

1173
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: don't even know if Tirrel was around much longer after that, Right,

1174
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think with that end, I.

1175
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,919
Speaker 5: Mean, not in it's current stage, not it's Kurt stage.

1176
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, it like it kind of went it

1177
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 6: went from like being the biggest and most important thing

1178
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 6: in the world to there, but kind of on the

1179
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 6: tail end, and ultimately, like I embraced it I loved

1180
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 6: not having to be like the person anymore. But what

1181
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 6: I realized is that, like, no matter what I did

1182
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,919
Speaker 6: for the rest of my life, like my last name

1183
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 6: to most people is going to be from Otown, not Miller.

1184
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 5: It's like I'm Dan from Otown. Oh yeah, and people

1185
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 5: have you know.

1186
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 6: And so like it took the time where we had

1187
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 6: we had that break for me to realize that I

1188
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 6: need to I should just race it, like quit hiding

1189
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:01,520
Speaker 6: from it.

1190
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: There's a way to kind of deal with it.

1191
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 6: And it kind of gave me a better appreciation for

1192
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 6: what it is that we do. And I'm more comfortable

1193
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 6: with that now.

1194
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: You know, later when you're in the group, you know,

1195
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: it's hard not to focus on the hate that comes

1196
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: along with it. So there's a part of you, especially

1197
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: with me, that was embarrassed to be a part of

1198
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: a boy band at that time, Like like half the

1199
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,799
Speaker 1: world just hates me just because I'm in a boy band.

1200
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1201
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: It's like it's crazy that that just the vile things

1202
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: that come out of people's uh mouths about a boy

1203
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 1: band member.

1204
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,479
Speaker 3: It's really a lot of hate.

1205
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 5: You don't.

1206
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: You don't understand, bab It was it was a lot,

1207
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: but we went through the trenches and it's.

1208
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: Like, you know, in terms of the celebrity in general,

1209
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 2: you always have half the population.

1210
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: Well, Dolly Parton, you know, she's got way more than

1211
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 1: half the population on her side. Okay, what I was saying,

1212
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: let's yeah, it's hard to be a boy member out there.

1213
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 3: Okay, literally zero pity for you.

1214
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 1: But like I was there, but you embrace it later on,

1215
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: You're like, you know what it was, that was a

1216
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: freaking awesome time and we made some good shit.

1217
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 3: Let's let's celebrate that.

1218
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 1: Well, you guys did well. I want to know during

1219
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: your break because I think, wow, how many years was

1220
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: y'all's hiatus?

1221
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:12,760
Speaker 3: Like eight years?

1222
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: Yeah? Like ten tennis years? Eight ten years?

1223
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, So what did you want to do with your

1224
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: time in between? Did you want to you know, find

1225
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: a completely different career?

1226
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,440
Speaker 5: I did a whole bunch of stuff.

1227
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 6: So I kind of toiled around with songwriting and production

1228
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 6: for a little bit, had like like a bunch of

1229
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 6: almost chances that you know, felt like at the time, oh,

1230
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 6: this is you know, I'm turning the corner.

1231
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 5: I'm not in the boy bank guy that this is

1232
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 5: gonna pop off and I'll be you know, and then

1233
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 5: just never materialized.

1234
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 6: I started a family, you know, I went back to college,

1235
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 6: I finished my degree. I got a degree in graphic design.

1236
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 6: I did like normal stuff, I really did, and and

1237
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 6: I you know, I enjoyed it, like and but it

1238
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 6: was like right as I was I graduated college and

1239
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 6: I was like, you know.

1240
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 5: What, I don't know if the music business is what

1241
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 5: I want to do anymore.

1242
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 6: I started looking for real jobs, and uh, and like

1243
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 6: right before I was going to graduate, we started talking

1244
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 6: about getting back together.

1245
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 5: I agreed to do it, and I never looked back.

1246
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 5: I still have never.

1247
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 6: Had like a real job in my life because during

1248
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 6: you know, the band just kind of came back around

1249
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 6: at the right time. And truthfully, that's what's best for

1250
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 6: like my family situation. I you know, like it's at

1251
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:33,120
Speaker 6: this point in my life, it's the best part time

1252
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 6: job in the world. I'm able to like be a

1253
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 6: soccer coach and another parent in the pickup line during

1254
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 6: the week and then on the weekends, I go jump

1255
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 6: around and after fool on stage for three days and

1256
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 6: I come home and like it's like nothing ever happened, you.

1257
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: Know, Like Hillary Duff says, it's the best of both worlds.

1258
00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: Oh man, yeah, you said that. We'll just cut that

1259
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 3: out to you. No, no, no, We're gonna highlight keep.

1260
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: It, just like you just showed your jeriats. Sorry, I

1261
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: was on the road during Anamon town.

1262
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 2: And you were so confident too, You're like clear, just throat,

1263
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: just like Hillary Death said.

1264
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: Well, hire some of that because we just did an

1265
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: episode of How I Met Your Father. That's out right now,

1266
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 1: go check it out on Hulu. And so she's been

1267
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 1: on my mind. Okay, so that was Miley Cyrus. Well,

1268
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 1: you guys were reunited twenty thirteen, have been together ever since.

1269
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: Feels like you're stronger than ever. I love watching y'all's relationship.

1270
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 1: Y'all do have this amazing brotherhood. Yeah, you know where

1271
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:38,919
Speaker 1: you can give each other ship.

1272
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 3: You know, you could, you can laugh, cry, whatever it is.

1273
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: Do you think that y'all have become closer just in

1274
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: the in the recent years because of this tour?

1275
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 5: Oh easy, easily. Yes. Twenty years ago was such like

1276
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 5: a roller coaster ride and happened so fast. I don't

1277
00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 5: even remember a lot of it.

1278
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 6: But because of the way that you know, we had

1279
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 6: that time away, not only did it make us appreciate

1280
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 6: what the music business is and means to us. We appreciate,

1281
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 6: you know, their relationships. We have a lot more and

1282
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 6: there's like we're older, so there's no drama. There is

1283
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 6: like it's we can have like adult conversations and know

1284
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 6: by the end of it, like it's not going to

1285
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 6: come to like a fistfight or something. It's just like,

1286
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 6: you know, it's we're adults now. We're not worried about

1287
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 6: some of that stuff. We're really just there trying to

1288
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 6: have fun. If it was drama, I would have quit

1289
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 6: a long time ago. I wouldn't even have been I

1290
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,120
Speaker 6: wouldn't be here talking to you because I would have quit.

1291
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: What's the craziest thing that's happened on the road so

1292
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: far on this tour?

1293
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 5: Oh man, let's see us.

1294
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 6: So there was one time we were backstage at a

1295
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 6: show and Michael Turchin fell into like some sort of

1296
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 6: like drainage.

1297
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 2: So weird you said that because I dreamt about that

1298
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: last night. Yes, I was back there in my dream

1299
00:54:58,600 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: last night.

1300
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,280
Speaker 1: You just got this was one of the funniest things

1301
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: I'd ever been a part of. So wait, Turkey, you

1302
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: tell the story because you were there.

1303
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 3: We were at a show at like a rodeo. I

1304
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 3: don't know where where.

1305
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,919
Speaker 5: Were we a state It was a state fair.

1306
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 3: There's a race raised big mud like.

1307
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 2: It was like a yeah, whatever, it's like. So we're backstags.

1308
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: It was like all mud everywhere and there was no

1309
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 2: lights back states.

1310
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,400
Speaker 3: It's all in front of stags. And there was a big,

1311
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 3: giant like puddle mud.

1312
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 6: It was like an abyss and they didn't put any

1313
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 6: but it just looked.

1314
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 5: Like a puddle.

1315
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 3: It was like a regular puddle.

1316
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,320
Speaker 2: And it was no lights at back, so I couldn't

1317
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 2: see the puddle, and they forgot to put like cones

1318
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 2: around it. So then I was walking to stays.

1319
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:45,360
Speaker 3: On his phone on my phone. It was on my phone. Okay,

1320
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 3: that's whatever Lance is trying to get me on my phone.

1321
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 3: That's the reason I said. Fall into an abyss in

1322
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: the middle of the night and I'm walking to stage,

1323
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I just noticed that I'm

1324
00:55:56,000 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 3: submerged under black like water. I I was walking and

1325
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I'm completely underwater. I couldn't imagine

1326
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 3: what that feeling like.

1327
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,520
Speaker 2: Walking like to the store, and all of a sudden

1328
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 2: you're underwater and you're like, what did I die?

1329
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 3: Like, am I in hell? What is happening? And then

1330
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 3: I like fly out of the water and I crawled

1331
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:18,600
Speaker 3: back onto.

1332
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 2: Land and I had a fit and the security guard

1333
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:26,439
Speaker 2: is just laughing but laughing his butt off, and I'm

1334
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:28,880
Speaker 2: having a fit through my phone and I'm like cursing up.

1335
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: Linda and I are in the dressing room. He just

1336
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: the door. It's like a movie because the door kicks open.

1337
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 1: He has covered head to toe and mud and just

1338
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: drenched and he's like what God, like just going crazy.

1339
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: But I could laugh about it.

1340
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you laughed about it.

1341
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 6: I mean you pretty much went the whole rest of

1342
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 6: the show with like a towel.

1343
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:55,919
Speaker 5: And everything was, oh my, your borderline naked the rest

1344
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 5: of the show.

1345
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 3: Which he's fine with ultimately.

1346
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,439
Speaker 5: Like in terms of craziness, it's just like it's these

1347
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 5: little things. They're funny.

1348
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 6: It like, uh, you know, there was a time where

1349
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 6: Jacob insulted, like insulted the owner of like a very

1350
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 6: very well known restaurant to his face because he was

1351
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:21,200
Speaker 6: confused about the name of the place. He thought it

1352
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 6: was something different. I don't want to say it because

1353
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 6: I don't want to react with it. But like Jacob

1354
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 6: like literally to the.

1355
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,280
Speaker 5: Guy, to the guy's face, that the restaurant is named after.

1356
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 6: He like insulted everything about that that restaurant, and then

1357
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 6: afterwards all of us in the.

1358
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 5: Room were like, no, don't what are you doing?

1359
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 6: Like he had no clue, And afterwards when he left,

1360
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 6: we're like, dude, what the what the hell do you

1361
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 6: just do?

1362
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 5: And he was like, I thought it was named like

1363
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,400
Speaker 5: it was really bad.

1364
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 6: It'd be like it'd be like going to like like

1365
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 6: you know, Grandpa McDonald's and like completely eviscerating the big

1366
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 6: map directly to Grandpa McDonald's because you thought.

1367
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 5: It was named like McCormick's or something. It was just

1368
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 5: like that.

1369
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 6: It was bad a lot, a lot, I know, but

1370
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, It's like a lot of

1371
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 6: this stuff is like the craziness is more about like

1372
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 6: the fun that we have.

1373
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 5: It's like all these little things.

1374
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: All right, So no one wants You know, now, if

1375
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 1: you could go back and we're giving the same opportunity again,

1376
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: would you say yes? Would you do something differently?

1377
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 6: I would say yes, And what I would do differently

1378
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 6: is I would make sure that I experienced everything the

1379
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,919
Speaker 6: first time, like to the fullest. I spent so much

1380
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 6: like I spend so much time like again, not liking people,

1381
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 6: not wanting to be around people.

1382
00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 5: Just wanting my own space. That like when I was in.

1383
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 6: Memphis, I didn't seek out the best barbecue spot. When

1384
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 6: I was in you know, Canon, I didn't I didn't

1385
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 6: go to get poutine or whatever it was.

1386
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 5: And this was twenty years ago. I've done some of

1387
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 5: this stuff as I got older.

1388
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 6: There's so many places that we went twenty years ago

1389
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 6: that I'll probably never go back to.

1390
00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 5: And in my.

1391
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 6: Youth, I could, I didn't have the foresight to realize that,

1392
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 6: like you got to do this, like this is the

1393
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 6: thing to do.

1394
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 5: So we do that now. But twenty years ago, I definitely,

1395
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 5: you know, I.

1396
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 6: Had so much like spaghetti bullying knees in my in

1397
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 6: my hotel room room service, rather than going to find

1398
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 6: something awesome that's local.

1399
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 5: And that's just being young and stupid.

1400
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: Well it's hard to tell young people to live in

1401
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 1: the moment, for sure. And yeah, when you go through

1402
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,200
Speaker 1: something like you you did, you you didn't have any

1403
00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: time off, like I know what it's like, and you

1404
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: all when you did have an hour or two off.

1405
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:46,920
Speaker 1: All you did was want to go to your hotel

1406
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: room in order room service. You know, you didn't have

1407
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: energy to go out and sight see all these places

1408
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: with some people.

1409
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: For their own mental health, you know, how to remove yourself,

1410
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 2: so you have a moment to decomp.

1411
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, because when you do go see these sites, then

1412
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 1: you have that added element again of fans and taking pictures,

1413
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,400
Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's not the normal tourist experience.

1414
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: You know, you have to always have that those people

1415
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,320
Speaker 1: just looking at you. So yeah, if you if you

1416
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: do a little anxiety, it's it's not the best business

1417
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: to be in ten years from now, Dan, where we're

1418
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: going to see you?

1419
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 3: What are you going to be doing.

1420
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 5: Ten years?

1421
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 3: Are you a psychic?

1422
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 6: Ten years from now, I will be like pacing around

1423
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,240
Speaker 6: the sidelines of some soccer field.

1424
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 5: I'm sure of it.

1425
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 6: I've actually like so yeah, I mentioned this before, but

1426
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 6: I'm a co owner of a soccer facility here in

1427
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 6: Arizona called Next Level Soccer.

1428
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 5: Next Next Level Soccer.

1429
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,280
Speaker 6: I am pretty positive that you know, we're the only

1430
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 6: soccer club with an owner. Uh that's an international pop superstar,

1431
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 6: that's me. I'm you know, I adopted anybody else, but

1432
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 6: I I've actually I've got like such an appreciation, uh

1433
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:01,240
Speaker 6: and love for mentoring and inspiring these young kids. I

1434
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 6: spend time coaching kids all the way up from like

1435
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,600
Speaker 6: three to you know, fifteen.

1436
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,520
Speaker 5: Years old, and I love it. I spent so much time.

1437
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 5: And you'll see this as your kids start playing baseball

1438
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 5: or whatever they play. There's so many coaches who are

1439
01:01:16,760 --> 01:01:20,439
Speaker 5: like just horrible examples. Oh you're like, it's more about

1440
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 5: them than it is about the kids.

1441
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: And those are the majority of my coaches growing up

1442
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 1: for sure.

1443
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,720
Speaker 5: And I, you know, it tainted your experience. It took

1444
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:31,919
Speaker 5: the joy away from some of those kids.

1445
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 6: So I try to be a bridge that's just there

1446
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 6: to like make sure they're having fun, make it a

1447
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 6: positive experience, even whether it's like whether you're a talented

1448
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 6: player or or not, Like you should still not leave

1449
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 6: that experience like frustrated by what your coach does. So

1450
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 6: long story short, it's going really well. And that's probably

1451
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 6: what I'll be doing because I spend a lot of

1452
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 6: time doing that.

1453
01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's great. Now we have some fans.

1454
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, let's get to some fan questions before you

1455
01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: let you go, Okay, We've had a lot of people

1456
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: wanting to ask you questions dance, so we.

1457
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 5: Just the best about that.

1458
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 1: You know, it's very true, very want Yeah, because like

1459
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: I said, you're we've almost finished our first group. It

1460
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: might be otown, but yes, you everyone's really been wanting

1461
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: you to be on the show.

1462
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: So this first question is from Minnie Lahani.

1463
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 2: If you could have any other boy band song as

1464
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: an Otown song, what would it be?

1465
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:33,560
Speaker 3: Mmm?

1466
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 5: That's a that's a.

1467
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 1: Good question because I always say nothing all or nothing

1468
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: was just WHOA, I ain't seriously, I'm like, I was

1469
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: so jealous of that song. I wanted it so badly.

1470
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: It's so beautiful.

1471
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:49,120
Speaker 6: We uh we you feel lucky to have that song, so,

1472
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 6: you know, very lucky me personally, I was able to

1473
01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 6: like that was where I was able to kind.

1474
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 3: Of step out in a little bit.

1475
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 6: So wow. Okay, So if we if I'm gonna I'm

1476
01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 6: gonna try to keep strictly to the question and take

1477
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 6: some of the more urban boy bands out of the equation,

1478
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 6: some of the R and B boy bands, because I

1479
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 6: would pick all of them. I was picked a voice

1480
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 6: the Men's song. I would pick that kind of stuff

1481
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 6: I would probably pick makes me ill.

1482
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: By inside No way, did you know that's my favorite song?

1483
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 5: I did not. I had no clue.

1484
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 3: Are you that is my favorite song we've ever done?

1485
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 6: Uh again, because like it was either that one or

1486
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,640
Speaker 6: I also really liked girlfriend at the time too, just

1487
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 6: because they were kind of like more in the line

1488
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 6: of like the direction I wanted to go with our band,

1489
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 6: and we just never got to the point where we

1490
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 6: could do that, but those were kind of like that

1491
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 6: was the kind direction I wanted our band to go.

1492
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, crazy, I mean, I'd love that you chose

1493
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: that song because we never released that as a single.

1494
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 1: It's very obscure, but I just love and it's the

1495
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: song that all the dudes liked. Like if the dudes

1496
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: liked him sing that was their song, they knew every

1497
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: word to it.

1498
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 4: You know.

1499
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 6: I heard a rumor back in the day, so when

1500
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 6: we I heard a rumor that that song possibly could

1501
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 6: have been ours.

1502
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 5: Is that true?

1503
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 6: I don't know if you could confirm a Jani this

1504
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 6: because we were we said we had a meeting with

1505
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 6: some with uh. I forget who it was, and I

1506
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 6: remember at the time they pitched it. I have this

1507
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 6: I have this cumungous song by Shakespeare. It's like, it's

1508
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 6: all set for you. It's all set for you, guys.

1509
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 6: All you gotta do is sign on the dotted line.

1510
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 6: And then we didn't sign with them, and it ended up,

1511
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 6: you know, going to you guys. So I remember thinking like,

1512
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,959
Speaker 6: oh wow, when I saw that come out, I remember

1513
01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,880
Speaker 6: putting in my head like that could have been our song.

1514
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, because Shakespeare and you know who else wrote that, right.

1515
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 5: I was gonna say one of the girls from Candy Birr.

1516
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 1: Candy Birds, Yeah, yeah, and she wrote you know tail

1517
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 1: sees no scrubs, which is.

1518
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 3: Kind of like in the same kind of vibe.

1519
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it's I have to I'm gonna

1520
01:04:56,520 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 1: text her and see if we were not the first choice.

1521
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Candy Candy.

1522
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 6: I mean if if given the choice, they would have

1523
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 6: easily picked in sank Over Town at the time, but

1524
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,640
Speaker 6: we would have had to scoop it up before you

1525
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 6: guys even knew it.

1526
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: I love that sound. When I've heard the dem I'm

1527
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:13,440
Speaker 1: like this, I love it. I love it and not

1528
01:05:13,560 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 1: everyone was jumping for joy for that. Even the record

1529
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,439
Speaker 1: labels like it's an album filler.

1530
01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: We're like, guys, this is so good.

1531
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,440
Speaker 1: And then I liked it even more when we did

1532
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 1: it on tour because it was just a fun one

1533
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: to do on tour. We were like playing doctors and all.

1534
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 3: This type of thuff.

1535
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: It was stupid, but I loved performing that one.

1536
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,600
Speaker 3: I have another one, I sure do from Wendeln is

1537
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 3: Oton working on a new album? Do we have a

1538
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: new album on the works.

1539
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 5: No, I hate to disappoint at least I think I know.

1540
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 6: Sorry at this point in our career, as bad as

1541
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 6: you say, like the album albums is not going to

1542
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 6: be in the cards maybe singles moving forward.

1543
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: It is a single market.

1544
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 5: It's a single market really, the album.

1545
01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 6: The album, we don't get enough out of it, you know,

1546
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:04,479
Speaker 6: in terms of what we do. We're not making money

1547
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 6: off it being played on the radio. And that's nor

1548
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 6: is that our goal recently or well?

1549
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: You have to have the fans what they want and

1550
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: they want to hear the hits, you know, with your

1551
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: legacy if it is hard when you because I remember

1552
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,840
Speaker 1: when we did our stadium tour, we we played a

1553
01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: lot of our songs from the Celebrity album on that

1554
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 1: tour before that album was even out, and every time

1555
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: you would do a song that no one heard it was,

1556
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't fun because they're just sits, right. They can't

1557
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: enjoy because they don't know the words and they're listening

1558
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: to like, oh, I've never heard this before. So it

1559
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 1: just is not fun on tour to do new songs

1560
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: because they're just not you know, that's not what they.

1561
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 3: Want, y, Yeah, you can't work with it. Yeah, so yeah.

1562
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 6: And it could be the it could be the best

1563
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 6: song in the world too, but if it does, like,

1564
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 6: not every song you record translates live like we for

1565
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 6: on the most recent album, I wrote a song which

1566
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 6: was I love It's called empty Space, and it's like

1567
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 6: when you put it on in the car, it's a

1568
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 6: type of song you could listen to over and over,

1569
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 6: but it never translated.

1570
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 5: Live one because people don't not enough people know it.

1571
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 5: But too it's just.

1572
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 6: Like there was just something about it that just never

1573
01:07:05,000 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 6: really clicked with the audience. And so like ultimately, yeah,

1574
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 6: like very rarely do we go to shows and we

1575
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 6: and we can put in one of our album cuts.

1576
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 6: People want to hear the hits, even though it gets

1577
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:18,400
Speaker 6: old us, they want to hear and they want to

1578
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:20,840
Speaker 6: hear it. They want to hear it how they remember it.

1579
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 6: They don't want to hear like O Town. They want

1580
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 6: to hear All or Nothing remixed.

1581
01:07:24,360 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 5: They want to hear.

1582
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 1: A remix and they're like, no, that is not what

1583
01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 1: I want.

1584
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:33,560
Speaker 2: It's actually just came out with two Point, which I like,

1585
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 2: which is great. It's just their new voices singing on tour.

1586
01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 1: Is there which song is the best opening song? And

1587
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: which is the best closing song? And does it change?

1588
01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:45,520
Speaker 5: Uh?

1589
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 3: It?

1590
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 6: Well, we've tried a bunch of them. First of all,

1591
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 6: All or Nothing. We kind of feel like have to

1592
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 6: close the show. It's the only way we it's the

1593
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 6: only way we can do it. What's kind of become

1594
01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 6: the default opener song is Liquid Dreams, not because it's

1595
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 6: the best, but because we like to get it out

1596
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 6: of the way.

1597
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:09,160
Speaker 3: That's amazing, so we like to kind.

1598
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 5: Of get get it over with.

1599
01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 6: But we've tried a couple other ones, but ultimately, like

1600
01:08:14,360 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 6: nothing really fits as well opening the show as Liquid

1601
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,720
Speaker 6: dream Yeah, it feels weird doing that song in the

1602
01:08:19,720 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 6: middle of the show for some reason, because most it's

1603
01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 6: it's very boy bandy, very kind of cheesy, and so

1604
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 6: to kind of like go from a bunch of stuff

1605
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 6: that maybe isn't that to kind of like drop it in.

1606
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 5: The middle, just always felt weird and hit get it

1607
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 5: out of the way.

1608
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: And this is one of your biggest hits too, so

1609
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: it kind of like, you know, you show the like, yep,

1610
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: this is us. So I was gonna ask what is

1611
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: your least favorite song to perform and I'm assuming it's

1612
01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:45,839
Speaker 1: Liquid Dreams now, Yeah.

1613
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Liquid Dreams. Yeah, And I think that's pretty

1614
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 5: much across the board, like none of us, like, I.

1615
01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: Feel like everyone's kind of said, but it's so I mean,

1616
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: it's just one of those songs also that people love

1617
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,639
Speaker 1: to talk about because it was one of the very

1618
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,360
Speaker 1: first internet sex songs there and a time that was

1619
01:09:01,479 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: very innocent.

1620
01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 3: That people might not have known.

1621
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: You know what Liquid Dreams were, you guys were and

1622
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: these wet dreams out there.

1623
01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're yeah, we were very risky.

1624
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, you were ahead of your time, really was.

1625
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 5: We should have just called it nocturnal emissions straight to the.

1626
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 3: Same bunch. Yeah, I know, no, all right, And we

1627
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 3: have one more question from the fans from Elmo three

1628
01:09:25,000 --> 01:09:27,759
Speaker 3: nine zero seven. What did you think of the guys

1629
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:29,880
Speaker 3: when you first met them, did you did you when

1630
01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:32,200
Speaker 3: you first his first impressions.

1631
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:39,720
Speaker 6: After a few homes, I actually I've I felt very

1632
01:09:39,720 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 6: out of place for most of them, not only when

1633
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,600
Speaker 6: I first met them, when we went to Orlando to

1634
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 6: try out for making the band.

1635
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 5: Like again, I'm from Ohio.

1636
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:51,200
Speaker 6: It's like all these other guys were, you know, the

1637
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 6: guys ended up making the band were from New York

1638
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,360
Speaker 6: or California, which is just like it was so different

1639
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 6: than what than.

1640
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: What I knew more like experience, yeah.

1641
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and so I just felt so out

1642
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 5: of place.

1643
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 6: And honestly that kind of like when I got in

1644
01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,000
Speaker 6: the band, I felt out of place for probably the

1645
01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:08,519
Speaker 6: first year.

1646
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,400
Speaker 5: There was all these like.

1647
01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 6: Little inside jokes and little like like cool things that

1648
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 6: they did that I just wasn't cool enough to kind

1649
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 6: of like grasp onto. Yet I was still very Ohio,

1650
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:24,360
Speaker 6: you know, Like you know, in Ohio, Mexican food is

1651
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 6: very different than what Mexican food tastes like in California, you.

1652
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 5: Know, and like how can you really be cool if

1653
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:33,280
Speaker 5: you don't know what real Mexican food tastes and you know,

1654
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 5: so yeah, I.

1655
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 6: Mean it took me a long time, but I definitely.

1656
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 6: I thought they were so weird. I thought they were

1657
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,920
Speaker 6: like weirdo California guys. You know just like I thought

1658
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,640
Speaker 6: I thought, Yeah, I definitely didn't fit in all.

1659
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 1: Right, before I let you go, we need to know

1660
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: what you're binging right now, what you have stuck in

1661
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: your head? So what television show do we need to

1662
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 1: be watching and binging right now?

1663
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 5: Do you? I'm what do you?

1664
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 6: Guys honestly have time to binge shows when you have

1665
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 6: kids at night?

1666
01:11:02,200 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 1: Yes, we get in bed and we like, right now,

1667
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:09,400
Speaker 1: we're we're binging Manifest, which we watched years ago, but

1668
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 1: then Netflix just brought it back, so we started it

1669
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: over from season one. So every night he always falls

1670
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 1: asleep first, but he'll get through maybe one episode and

1671
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: then I'll end up watching three episodes and then I

1672
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 1: fall asleep. So this that's our binge time.

1673
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,479
Speaker 5: But then do you but then you have to like

1674
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,120
Speaker 5: watch those two episodes again?

1675
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah kind of no, because this show that we're binging,

1676
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:30,240
Speaker 2: I'm only half watching.

1677
01:11:30,320 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I give him a show that he can.

1678
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 2: Watch when I fall asleep, So it's like I'm halfway

1679
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: from what's.

1680
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 1: The other one that you I watched? Without you kind

1681
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: of there's so many Yeah, oh sbu. I've watched every

1682
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: single episode of SB every single those with you, and

1683
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: we still have more seasons now to catch up.

1684
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:46,840
Speaker 5: Boks.

1685
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,679
Speaker 3: We had caught up during the pandemic.

1686
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 5: Wow, it's good. Uh yeah. My wife and I we

1687
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 5: don't really watch we don't have our own shows. Everything

1688
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 5: is this, Everything is the same.

1689
01:11:57,840 --> 01:11:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1690
01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 6: But at this point the time my kids go to bed,

1691
01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 6: I'm I'm kind of wiped out. So no, but we've

1692
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 6: been kind of as a family, we've been working our way.

1693
01:12:08,120 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 5: My kids are just starting to get into like some

1694
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:11,799
Speaker 5: of the Marvel stuff.

1695
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 6: So like we you know, we went back through this

1696
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 6: is a Marvel we started, we went through the Star

1697
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,439
Speaker 6: Wars stuff together as a family, and then we did

1698
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 6: we did the Pirates of the Caribbean and now now

1699
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:24,560
Speaker 6: we're in the Spider Man kind of thing and the

1700
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 6: kids kind of are getting into it.

1701
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 5: But I don't think that.

1702
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 6: Counts as what you're going for with binging, because.

1703
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 5: You know, these are these are some of these things,

1704
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 5: they're like thirty years old.

1705
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 3: It counts, It totally counts. Okay, what about music? Is

1706
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 3: there what should we be listening? Is there a song

1707
01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 3: or an artist that you're currently it could be old school.

1708
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:47,360
Speaker 6: Oh my god, what am I binging right now again?

1709
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:48,519
Speaker 5: I'm so lame?

1710
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 6: Uh all I I listened to I listened to sports

1711
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:56,679
Speaker 6: podcasts and very and very little music.

1712
01:12:57,280 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 5: Yep, yeah told you.

1713
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 6: I mean it's like for a musician, I am the

1714
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 6: least musician and musician of all times.

1715
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 5: You're just around like music. I don't. I don't really

1716
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:10,320
Speaker 5: listen that much music. I've never had an alcoholic drink

1717
01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:10,960
Speaker 5: in my life.

1718
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:15,719
Speaker 6: I've never smoked any.

1719
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:16,000
Speaker 5: Sort of legal substance yep.

1720
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 6: And I don't like people like all of these things,

1721
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,559
Speaker 6: like do not like why are you even talking to you?

1722
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 6: Why we're just honored your here when you when you

1723
01:13:27,080 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 6: guys reach out to me like, I hope they know

1724
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 6: what they're getting into.

1725
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 5: I am not fun.

1726
01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: Well, I will have to disagree. You are very fun.

1727
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 1: I love your personality and you're I mean, you're great.

1728
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,439
Speaker 1: You're an amazing artist, You're an incredible man and an

1729
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: incredible father, and it's just it's been great getting to

1730
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 1: know you these last few years because you are you're

1731
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 1: You're a great guy, and we wish everything good for

1732
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 1: you in the future. Whatever you take your career and

1733
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,760
Speaker 1: soccer career. We will be watching and will definitely be

1734
01:13:55,800 --> 01:13:57,400
Speaker 1: coming out and seeing you on the Pop two thousand

1735
01:13:57,439 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: tour a lot. Is there anything you would like to

1736
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: tell your lovely fans listening right now?

1737
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:04,880
Speaker 6: First of all, Lance Michael, thank you. You guys are awesome

1738
01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 6: and that was very nice. Just uh, you know, we

1739
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,360
Speaker 6: always appreciate the love and we appreciate them just sticking

1740
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 6: with us, uh through.

1741
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,240
Speaker 5: All this time. As we get older and grayer, we

1742
01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 5: will continue to be out there. And even though it's

1743
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 5: harder and harder for me to get away, I still

1744
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 5: enjoy every single time I go jump out on stage

1745
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:27,639
Speaker 5: and get to perform for them.

1746
01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 3: So you can tell for sure.

1747
01:14:29,040 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: Wait, do y'all haven't y'all have a name or what townies?

1748
01:14:31,360 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 3: What is it?

1749
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:32,840
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1750
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: We got town townies? Are happy?

1751
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 3: All right, Dan?

1752
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,880
Speaker 1: It was lovely, lovely catching up with you and enjoy

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Speaker 1: the rest of your day. Hopefully you have a soccer

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Speaker 1: game you get to go help coach at.

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Speaker 5: I got a soccer practice to run tonight.

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Speaker 1: All right, Get my love to the family, Yes, all right,

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Speaker 1: send you all right, buddy, Any guys, thank you? Dan

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Speaker 1: is so sweet, I know I always say it every

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Speaker 1: single everyone's so, that's so nice.

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Speaker 3: The whole group is.

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Speaker 1: So can we get an asshole boy band member?

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 1: iHeart, come on, we need someone that's just difficult because

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Speaker 1: they're all just too nice.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't look at me, don't look at me. I

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Speaker 2: could interview you at any point. I knew you're about

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Speaker 2: to say any point.

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Speaker 3: Because I'll answer a question.

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Speaker 1: Ask a question now, Okay, why are you so open

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Speaker 1: that up?

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Speaker 3: Why are you the worst boy band? Oh my gosh? Why?

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Speaker 1: Well, that's all the show I have for you today.

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Speaker 3: So uh wow, all right?

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Speaker 1: Is there anything you would you like to say anything

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Speaker 1: to the Do we have named people?

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Speaker 3: Do we have fans of the show?

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Speaker 2: Do we have named people like our children's what Alexander

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Speaker 2: and Violet Varsa tippers? Frosty frost Frosty's are Frosty's. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: little Frosty's.

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Speaker 1: They're a little frost I love that Tippers, A little tipper.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna work shop. Why don't you d m us

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Speaker 1: instagram our TikTok, which is blowing up right now. So

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Speaker 1: dm us there, tell us what you want us to

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Speaker 1: call you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Frosty's tippers, not cow tippers.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the frosty frosty Frosty's.

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Speaker 3: I know a little extra frosting we got. They can

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Speaker 3: be a little give a little snowflakes. They can be

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Speaker 3: little cupcakes. Okay, this is going down fast, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, little cupcakes, that's all the show I have for you.

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Speaker 1: Be good to each other, don't drink and drive out there.

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Speaker 1: Be good to those animals because they will be good

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Speaker 1: to you. They'll be good to you anyway. But we'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time. I'll frost tips. But until then,