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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, and welcome to game week. Here

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Speaker 2: on in the Drive. It is September and it is

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Speaker 2: go time. Matt Williamson with you for the next two

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Speaker 2: hours here on your twenty four to seven Home of

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Speaker 2: the Black and Gold and Matt Man. It happens real

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Speaker 2: quick from August and ye season and training camp to

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Speaker 2: you know everyone for the most part. I know that

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Speaker 2: the team at practice and stuff like that, but everyone

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Speaker 2: who kind of does what you and I do for

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Speaker 2: a living off yesterday because of the Labor Day holiday,

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Speaker 2: and here we go bang Jets week staring us in

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Speaker 2: the face.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 4: We were talking about this off the air that the

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Speaker 4: day after Labor Day is one of the weirdest days

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Speaker 4: for you too, or and probably for anyone that does this.

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Speaker 3: And the reasoning is.

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Speaker 4: First of all, I go have a blast all Labor

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Speaker 4: Day weekend with my buds, and recovery is important a

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Speaker 4: little bit, but I go two nights. A lot of

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Speaker 4: those dudes do three because I just need to get

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Speaker 4: a little bit in NFL mode because I look at

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Speaker 4: today like truly the first day of the regular season,

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Speaker 4: you know, like and as you were saying, like, is

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Speaker 4: it Monday is a Tuesday. I still have Monday things

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Speaker 4: And I'm always I have a spreadsheet where I balance

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Speaker 4: out all my podcasts and interviews and all that kind

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Speaker 4: of stuff too. And you know, things are a little

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Speaker 4: new and sounds like tomorrow we're going to be on YouTube,

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Speaker 4: but we're full, you know, four or five days a

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Speaker 3: It's Chets week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we will. I bet you'd be doing a show

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Speaker 2: well basically every single day. Well, I guess there might

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Speaker 2: be a little bit of a there might be a

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Speaker 2: that's going to work, but I mean night games and

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Speaker 2: right yeah, well you know, but I mean basically till Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: we'll be uh, we'll be we'll be full bore with

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Speaker 2: you here the typical schedule that you expect. Like Matt said,

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Speaker 2: it does sound like we're going to be back on

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Speaker 2: the the YouTube broadcast this week as well too. We

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Speaker 2: think beginning on Wednesday, September third, but with the kind

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Speaker 2: of extra elongated holiday weekend that we had, not just

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Speaker 2: some some things that we have not covered, to kind

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Speaker 2: of catch us up and really get it feeling like

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Speaker 2: game week here. The first Matt is Jalen Warren being

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Speaker 2: inked to a new three year contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: As uh, you know, he was heading into that last

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Speaker 2: undrafted free agent and the team had tendered his rights

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Speaker 2: as that works with undrafted guys, so kind of no

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Speaker 2: real certainty for his contract going forward. Well that is

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Speaker 2: now not the case anymore. New three year deal for

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Speaker 4: I love this and it actually makes me feel kind

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Speaker 4: there weren't many discussing an extension for Warren.

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Speaker 3: Everyone knew what.

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Speaker 4: In others you know, I mean, guys that are going

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Speaker 4: so much sense to me on a lot of levels.

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Speaker 4: First off, the anti side of it is you don't

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Speaker 4: want to invest in running backs, blah blah blah blah blah.

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Speaker 4: Now I have not seen the money, but I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's extravagant. I don't even know if they've been

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Speaker 4: this stage for a guy that's given you, what, three years, right, Yes,

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Speaker 3: He is super versatile. He can be ball carrier, you know.

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Speaker 4: Third down back, early down back, and it sure looks

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Speaker 2: I think that's pretty crystal clear.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I mean today going into Jets week. Now.

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Speaker 4: The other thing is why I brought it up way

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Speaker 4: but by NFL standards, he has like nothing in the bank.

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean, like he's an undrafted free agent.

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Speaker 4: He's not like doing a contract with cam or Aaron

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Speaker 4: living better than many listeners, many people on the planet,

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Speaker 4: but by NFL standards, he's poor, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Especially with all those fines. He got his money games

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Speaker 3: For free as bonkers.

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Speaker 4: So I'm sure the Warren family, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: just take the first deal they offer with a big bonus.

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Speaker 3: And some guarantees, and get some guarantees in there.

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Speaker 4: You're living large. I mean, his life changed drastically, you know,

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Speaker 4: considering what he's made over the years. And frankly, I

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So it's a three year contract a two year extension.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there for him and as you as as you

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Speaker 4: kind of alluded to there, I don't think anybody in

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I didn't think it was, but.

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Speaker 2: You know, spot spot track, who I think anybody who

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Speaker 2: website that tracks contracts for athletes across every sport, not

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Speaker 2: their kind of best guess estimate on this current extension is, uh,

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Speaker 2: that will bump him up to a base salary of

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Speaker 2: five point three ish million dollars per year this year,

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Speaker 2: and that'll be the same as his cap pit this year.

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Speaker 3: Basically, that makes sense, right.

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Speaker 2: So, now what exactly how that looks like with the

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Speaker 2: Like I get it, I totally get it. But this

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Speaker 2: if if you know by week six or seven, Caleb

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Speaker 2: He's still gonna that'll still even if he ends up

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Speaker 2: fine with a salary cap.

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Speaker 3: Structure, especially with a guy in a rookie deal.

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Speaker 2: Especially with a third round right rookie, not Ashton genty

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Speaker 2: I think it makes a lot of sense for who

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Speaker 2: there of you know, he's not a twenty seven year

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say worst case scenario, but it might

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Speaker 3: Great that it'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Woarren is still a fairly paid, high end number

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just as high end third down backs go.

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Speaker 4: That's worth it in itself, let alone the early down

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Speaker 4: I mean so and at the moment, Johnson has a

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Speaker 4: imagine a year from now Jalen not doing the third

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Speaker 4: better at it, but I can't imagine he'll be as

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Speaker 4: good as Warren, who's outstandings outstanding at it, right, I mean,

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Speaker 4: and some of like you know, the Matt stats stuff

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Speaker 3: Heavy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Warren numbers, the peripheral numbers are ridiculously good.

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Speaker 4: They're like McCaffrey Kamara good in terms of receiving stuff.

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Speaker 4: You know, people don't realize that around here. That doesn't

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Speaker 2: Like a small sample size.

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Speaker 3: But when he's on the field, he produces as much

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Speaker 2: No, he sure does. And that's the exciting part to me.

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Speaker 2: I almost think he's become a little bit of an

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Speaker 2: most discussed topics of that Steelers offense, Jalen Warren pretty

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Speaker 2: far down on the list, But I think he's going

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Speaker 2: quickly be reminded why we've been so high on him

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Speaker 2: at points in the past.

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Speaker 4: In a thousand percent and so, he's been on three

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Speaker 4: Steeler teams, you know, different years, none of which are

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Speaker 4: powerhouse offenses. Let's just put I think we know that

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Speaker 4: at this point they weren't the best offenses in the league.

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Speaker 4: But you can't name too many better players offensive players

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Speaker 4: over the last three years than Jayla Warren.

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Speaker 2: You mean, as it relates to the Steelers standpoint right, right,

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Speaker 2: He's probably it.

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Speaker 3: He's one of their best guys over the three year

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Speaker 2: I mean him and him and mouth right or like

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Speaker 2: their only skill position players that have been that tenured

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Speaker 2: with that you're happy with, right, exactly exactly right. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 2: that's a that's a very good point by you. So

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Speaker 2: I thought this was smart business. I did think of

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Speaker 2: you because you've been talking about this since. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: thought this was camp and OTAs and and and kind

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Speaker 2: of that you.

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Speaker 3: Got him a little cheaper than he could have yeah.

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Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, and he.

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Speaker 4: Definitely cheaper than if you would actually hit the market. Yea,

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Speaker 4: we maybe have.

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Speaker 2: We could be we could be doing shows in February

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Speaker 2: and you know, when the season's over and talking about

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Speaker 2: how much of a bargain that looks like, Now you've

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Speaker 2: got a legit number one running back locked up at

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Speaker 2: a five million dollar ish cap hit number for the

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Speaker 2: next two years.

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Speaker 4: Twelve hundred combined yards or something, you know, and if

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Speaker 4: he would hit the open market, he would have got

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Speaker 4: ten or twelve, he.

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Speaker 2: Would have gotten double that.

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Speaker 2: Back on the drive here, rolling along into September. It's

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Speaker 2: like our educated guess was that Harmon was going to

442
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 2: at least miss a week, you know, maybe two, kind

443
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 2: of right in that wheelhouse, I think we'd all thought,

444
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 2: you know, her big status would be up in the

445
00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,760
Speaker 2: air just because of the timing of his injury and everything.

446
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,680
Speaker 2: But here and other than that largely healthy group, I

447
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 2: think that's about as good as you could hope for

448
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:27,840
Speaker 2: at this point.

449
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, not bad at all. Now we don't know exactly

450
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:31,639
Speaker 4: what cam A was gonna do, though, right.

451
00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,360
Speaker 2: Right, and and all that was really said about that

452
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 2: was as anybody out there can imagine, one of the

453
00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 2: very first questions that Mike Tomlin was asked about, you know,

454
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 2: his press conference, the first ten minutes or so or

455
00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 2: usually him kind of talking about where the team's at,

456
00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 2: injury updates. Sometimes he'll look back on the game that

457
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 2: just happened. Now obviously that wasn't the case today, and

458
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,639
Speaker 2: then he'll preview the opponents. You know, he talked about

459
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 2: justin fields, he talked about the Jets kind of being

460
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 2: in a new era and guys he wanted to highlight

461
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,280
Speaker 2: on their offense and their defense both. And then you know,

462
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: the kind of first ten minutes is Mike Tomlin's message.

463
00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 2: And then after that, for you know ten minutes or so,

464
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: he takes questions. One of the very first questions, of course,

465
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: was what's Cam Hayward's status, You know, are you expecting

466
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,800
Speaker 2: him to be out there Sunday? And Mike Tomlin said,

467
00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 2: and I quote, I'm certainly expecting Cam to play. That

468
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 2: was his answer, which is great, which is a good thing,

469
00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: which is I think what everybody was hoping to hear. Sure,

470
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: and Matt, as you alluded to, like, this is especially

471
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 2: important to me this week because Cam Hayward is not

472
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 2: going to be one hundred percent. Cam Hayward is not

473
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,119
Speaker 2: going to be None of these guys are in complete

474
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,880
Speaker 2: football shape yet. But he's but certainly the thirty seven

475
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: year old who's done less than anybody. They need him

476
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:47,880
Speaker 2: to at least have his hand in that pile, though,

477
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,439
Speaker 2: because without harmon with what you just alluded to, the

478
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 2: nature of how you're gonna have to shuffle those defensive

479
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,240
Speaker 2: linemen and keep guys fresh early on in the season,

480
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: especially against a Jets team that wants to run the football,

481
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 2: is going to run the football a lot, Like I know,

482
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,719
Speaker 2: Cam Hayward won't be that stalwart who's gonna be out

483
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,639
Speaker 2: there for eighty five percent of the snaps, but still

484
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: having his hand in the pile is very important for.

485
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 4: Us massive And again, first off, it sounds like Benton's

486
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,080
Speaker 4: gonna be okay by the nature of what you said

487
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 4: with the press conference, but there's something with him too.

488
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 4: He's got an upper body something or other, so maybe

489
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 4: he doesn't play a ton.

490
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely would not want to.

491
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 4: Be without Cam, Benton and Harmon or even two of

492
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,160
Speaker 4: the three would be really short changing you, which again

493
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 4: is why I think they kept extra D linemen, especially

494
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 4: even if it's just for this game.

495
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 3: The Jets are gonna run the ball like crazy.

496
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 4: I mean I've been laughing, you know, making the joke

497
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 4: They're gonna be like a service academy. I mean it's

498
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 4: gonna be everyone's gonna be carrying the ball and the

499
00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 4: field is gonna.

500
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: Get twelve carries and triple option. Yeah.

501
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 4: I mean, if as long as they can keep it close,

502
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 4: they're gonna run the ball like crazy. And I don't

503
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,120
Speaker 4: want to tax Cam too much in this situation.

504
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, is fifty percent of the snaps? Is that about that?

505
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: Right?

506
00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 3: Wonderful?

507
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 4: I mean if you can get away with it, great,

508
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 4: you know, if you're losing in the second half though,

509
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 4: he's gonna be out there all the time.

510
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: You know, I'm right, No, that's that's exactly it. And

511
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: that's another one of those like, man, you would like

512
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 2: to see the Steelers be able to establish that run

513
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: and control time of possession. Keep those guys fresh, you know,

514
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: you you'd love the You know, at the end of

515
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,639
Speaker 2: the end of the game, you held the ball for

516
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: thirty three thirty four minutes. Yeah, you know, you snapped

517
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: the ball fifteen more times on offense than they did.

518
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 2: Keep those snapcats counts down for your defense, keep them

519
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: off the field, keep them rested. Cam Heyward at the

520
00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:32,480
Speaker 2: top of that.

521
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 3: List, but especially this time of year, like you said.

522
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: One hundred percent, And so then it kind of gets

523
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 2: into for me, what does that pecking order look like?

524
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 2: You know, like what does that rotation look like? How

525
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,240
Speaker 2: much do we expect from ye Black, from Logan Lee,

526
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 2: from from mcqualey, from louder Milk, from all those guys.

527
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,639
Speaker 3: I don't know, one hundred percent.

528
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think anybody really knows. From outside of

529
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,280
Speaker 2: those walls.

530
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 4: Right right when they're in base I would soon Black

531
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:07,080
Speaker 4: will take over for Harmon. Yes, that's my initial guess.

532
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 4: And I also think in Nickel it'll be Benton and Cam,

533
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 4: but that means Cam plays every step and so does Benton.

534
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 4: And that's not what's gonna happen.

535
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,479
Speaker 2: Right, you know what I mean exactly right?

536
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 4: Ideally those are your best guys, but that's gonna be

537
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 4: a rotation. I have no doubt in my mind. I

538
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 4: bet Loudermo plays a fair amount because you know them. Yeah,

539
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 4: you know, I don't love him, but you'll know him.

540
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 2: That's a that's a great point by you. You're familiar

541
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: with him, He's familiar with what you're asking him to do.

542
00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 2: He might not have the highest ceiling in those scenarios,

543
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 2: but you're you're pretty optimistic that his floor is pretty

544
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: high as well too. It's a very good way to

545
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 2: put it, Like he might he's not going to be

546
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: making plays out there that are going to be on

547
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 2: Sports Center Monday morning, but he won't kill you. Won't

548
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: be a big detriment either, And that's part of the

549
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: balance that you have to find in that week one

550
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 2: as well, too, Like who who is going to eat

551
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,600
Speaker 2: some innings, who's not gonna get who's not going to

552
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 2: give up the home run ball? You know what I mean,

553
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 2: or take the bad penalty that's that's gonna cost you points.

554
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: That's a lot of the ironing out of the wrinkles

555
00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:10,160
Speaker 2: that they got to do this week as well too.

556
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 3: Thousand percent.

557
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 4: And I mentioned him just because like all coaches, Tomlin

558
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: we know, is very much about trust and some guys

559
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: are young, Like, hey, if you if you can't practice

560
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: on Friday, you're not playing because I don't know what

561
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 4: you're like in that.

562
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 3: Situation, YadA, YadA.

563
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: And I bring up louder Remote not because he's their

564
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:32,359
Speaker 4: best guy, but U K Lee's new Black is new

565
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 4: Lee might as well be new, you know. I mean

566
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 4: you've ever gone to battle with him on an NFL stage,

567
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 4: you know.

568
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: Especially on the road, and you know all the things

569
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 3: and all the running you're going to see in.

570
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 4: This game, so at least you have a I know

571
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 4: what this guy is going to do factor with him.

572
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

573
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 4: That D line snapcount thing will be an interesting conversation

574
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 4: on Monday.

575
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the first things that I'm going to

576
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 2: look at Monday morning or maybe even Sunday night when

577
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 2: when I get off the plane and before I go

578
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,959
Speaker 2: to bed, because I'll be very interested to see how

579
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: they divvy up that pie amongst the defense. With Derek

580
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: Harmon not being involved Cam Hayward, you know, not being

581
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: up to speed, and again I think still some we'll

582
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: wait and see the injury report. Let us let that

583
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 2: be our guide in that regard. But if Derek Harmon

584
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,240
Speaker 2: are part of me, if Keanu Benten is going to

585
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: be one hundred percent healthy as well, take.

586
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 4: You imagine the injury report will have more than Harmon

587
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,480
Speaker 4: and her big On I believe, so you know what

588
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,120
Speaker 4: I mean, Just yes, guys that are.

589
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,160
Speaker 2: Because largely healthy, like they could still be listed as probable,

590
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 2: but if they if they've got something that they've been

591
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: getting getting work on, they've got to disclose it on it.

592
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: That's one of those things you do not want to

593
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: mess around with winning out you put somebody on there

594
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: because if not, we've seen teams be forfeited, draft picks, docked,

595
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 2: big sums of money, all that different kind of different

596
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: stuff in the past.

597
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, so some of our listeners might be like, oh, good,

598
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 4: they're healthy, and then tomorrow we're gonna read off.

599
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 2: There's seven names there.

600
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that doesn't sound healthy. We'll see you.

601
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: We will that indeed, indeed we will. Matt. What do

602
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 2: you say you want to hear from Jalen Moore in

603
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 2: here and what he had to say. I bet he

604
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 2: is as well too. Jalen speaking not too long ago

605
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 2: on this, uh, this contract extension that he inked kind

606
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: of the some of the responsibility and expectations that come

607
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 2: with that, and just how he's feeling about this offense

608
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: and Aaron Rodgers and the offensive line as a whole

609
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: as they get ready for the Jets. Here's what Jalen

610
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 2: Mooren had to say.

611
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 3: A new contract and how do you feel?

612
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 6: You know, it's always something you dream about, but you know,

613
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 6: I didn't know if it was gonna I didn't know

614
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 6: it was gonna come this soon. I'm grateful I did.

615
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 5: Chilean, you know, wasn't easy for you when he came

616
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 5: in as an undrafted free agent.

617
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: It was the key to go from the udi FA

618
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 4: for guy that's now getting paid and has.

619
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 3: RB one's datus fifteen.

620
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 6: I guess just working every day. I never looked toward

621
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,439
Speaker 6: the future, always stayed president, you know that moment and

622
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 6: whatever you know, pandeut for me, that's whatever, Panda.

623
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: How does it feel to know this team has bought

624
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: into you like that.

625
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: Uh, it's it's it's a great feeling, you know.

626
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 6: Uh, knowing they have my bag, i'm'a do what I

627
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 6: can have their bag and yeah, I'm blessed.

628
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Go no, hm, anything's gonna add more chips and you.

629
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 2: Still have a lot to prove. Yeah, who are saying

630
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: he's not really another one?

631
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, I do it for my loved ones. I

632
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 6: do it for the people who do believe in me.

633
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 6: So it's it's more so you know, doing it for them,

634
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 6: know than they sayers.

635
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: Tail. What what's different about your game than that all

636
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: this year?

637
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 6: What do you feel?

638
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: Uh?

639
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 6: I guess it's it's the same as previous just enhanced.

640
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: You know. I love the way I play.

641
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 6: I don't think i'll ever That's why I played the

642
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 6: sport because of the physicality and I just love playing

643
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 6: that way.

644
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 5: Is there anything different you wanted to show everybody this

645
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 5: year being the top.

646
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 3: Guys opposed to other year. Uh?

647
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 6: Nah, just know that I can ball, you know, love

648
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 6: playing ball.

649
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 5: Jil jelling, you said you give something you hope would happen.

650
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 5: But like the leader of the kalub you know, like

651
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 5: there's some people maybe not in this group, but hey,

652
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 5: that that kind of needed might be the guy down

653
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 5: the road. You didn't have a future, You're status future

654
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 5: sat it's also locked up at that point.

655
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 6: No, I was a concern.

656
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:10,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

657
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 6: Like I said, I stay present in my moment. Uh

658
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 6: you know my lane. I was glad we got killed up.

659
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 6: You know, he's a baller. The more weapons, the better

660
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 6: for the team. And that's how I always moved, you know,

661
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 6: growing up.

662
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 2: Whatever.

663
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 6: Uh, So you know, I'm glad it happened for me,

664
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Speaker 6: and I hope it happened for everyone on this team.

665
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: Teacher Jack.

666
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 5: That will allow you to recruit seeing that money that

667
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 5: you might have gotten find here first couple of years ago.

668
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 6: While oh yeah, yeah it worked out, I yuesstrod.

669
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 2: To that the steal got done, I mean before a

670
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: week one and for this whole season.

671
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 5: Does it give an extra use?

672
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: Maybe yea yeah.

673
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 6: Uh you know there's a there's a saying out there

674
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 6: like whatever you get paid and kind of get like

675
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 6: days ago. Uh, I look at it as more motivation

676
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 6: do what I can for the team. Jailor uh the

677
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 6: fun Take me through your feelings yours about that? Uh

678
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 6: just got loose with the ball. You know, that's another thing.

679
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 6: The team didn't freak out, and you know, I know

680
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: how they feel. You know, nobody likes a fumble. Nobody

681
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 6: wants to be a part of that, you know environment.

682
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 6: So I'm doing I do, I do what I can

683
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 6: to make sure it doesn't happen again. You didn't freak

684
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 6: out either, You kind of can you can't freak out,

685
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 6: kind of itching to get out there and show what

686
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 6: you can do, cause you haven't done much in the preseason. Yeah, yeah,

687
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 6: I'm excited. You know, I've been waiting for a week

688
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 6: one and uh, I'm excited to go ball. You probably

689
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 6: played fifty games in the NFL, but I haven't sort

690
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 6: of one yet.

691
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: What does that say to you when they come to

692
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 2: you one extend you even build.

693
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Speaker 6: Like I said, it's extra motivation for me. Knowing what

694
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 6: they think or what they uh, how what they feel

695
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 6: I bring to the team. It just gives me extra

696
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 6: juice to do what I can to help them.

697
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: I think Arthur.

698
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 5: Smith said, uh, you didn't get Aaron Rodgers if you

699
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 5: came back half to the wishbone. They's suggesting that you

700
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 5: throw the ball a little bit more this year.

701
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 6: Do you feel like that what Aaron does in the

702
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 6: quick passing game, and and the way this offense is

703
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 6: gonna look is gonna highlight your skill set even more

704
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 6: than it has as Yeah I could. Yeah, I'm excited

705
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 6: to witness that too.

706
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 5: Though the caps were name is it maybe a four

707
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 5: time ND quarterback?

708
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 2: Is that easy to pick adopt?

709
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 6: Yeah?

710
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

711
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 6: The panels writing errand before I could even think of

712
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 6: what I was gonna write, Why is jail how is he?

713
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 6: Let you guys just very transparent?

714
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: Uh?

715
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 6: Uh? You guys a lot of character too. You know,

716
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,479
Speaker 6: he's a coach and uh and a best friend all

717
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 6: in one. And uh, you know you can ask for more.

718
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: From a quarterback you when you saw them when you

719
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 5: saw them, but you know, as you go and knowing

720
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 5: the climate for in the league, the way they don't

721
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 5: pay running backs, do you think when you.

722
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: Signed the tender that might be last year? Uh?

723
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 6: I mean I try not to like think like that.

724
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 6: Whatever happened happened when I said if I'm you know,

725
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 6: practicing Tuesday and focused on Tuesday, practicing on Thursday and

726
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 6: focus on Thursday, you know, and then whatever happens after that?

727
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: Jalen, is there a part of you that once. You know, Mike,

728
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 5: when you talk about not a lot, when you use

729
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: the every once. When I use the phrase belt happen,

730
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 5: right like any of the guy that's gonna can get

731
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 5: the rock of twenty twenty five times in the game.

732
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: You haven't had a dat responsibility yet, butter you sort

733
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,959
Speaker 5: of Hey, do you want that to happen? I mean,

734
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 5: like you could, You've done that previously in your life.

735
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 2: It's not like that's that wrapping up.

736
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 5: That's something that you want to show.

737
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 1: People that you can be an every down guy.

738
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, m hm, not necessarily show people, just I guess

739
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 6: proved to whoever is you know, doubtful in that that

740
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 6: I can do it because I know I can't and

741
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 6: you know I can see the opportunities. Is that whatever

742
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 6: conditioning goes into to prepare yourself, they have that kind

743
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 6: of role. Yeah, under Jalen, when you think about.

744
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: Your journey from Juco, now I know you still have

745
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 5: the chip on your shore, but what are.

746
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: Any emotions for you?

747
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 6: Oh?

748
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: It is it like an is it even though you

749
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: have the ship? Is it like?

750
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 5: Hey, I put in all this work and I made

751
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: a moment even who counted that whole time?

752
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, damn.

753
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 6: I could go forever on that topic. But yeah, it's

754
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 6: a real Uh it's what you know, everyone who goes

755
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 6: to Joe Juco, it's what they dream about, you know,

756
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 6: being in a situation like mine. And so I hope

757
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 6: I can you know, be the one to look up

758
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 6: to when you're in those hard situations in Juco. Every

759
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 6: time I you know, hear a Juco product, it's like

760
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 6: extra respect for them because that life is not hard

761
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 6: and or that life is not easy, and uh, you know,

762
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 6: kudos to them, those guys.

763
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I.

764
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Speaker 6: Mean they're proud of me. I hit them, you know,

765
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 6: I still talk to them. I hit them, you know

766
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 6: when I found out. Uh so, yeah, those are my

767
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 6: boys because you know, got it out the mud together.

768
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 6: Although we're not in the same spot, they're doing their thing,

769
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 6: you know, whether that's I mean, even though it's not football.

770
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 2: So yeah, Coach Peterson from days it's now said you

771
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: were short and budge when you came in. Yeah, how'd

772
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: you kind of go into your frame?

773
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 5: And when could that short puch could ever imagine game

774
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 5: seventeen and a half million dollars.

775
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 6: I knew I how to change something about my game

776
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 6: because Throughout my Juco experience, the coaches were real, really

777
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 6: enough with me to say, if you made these changes,

778
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 6: you could be you could be something. And I took

779
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,240
Speaker 6: that to heart and it's guiding me to this point.

780
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a pretty cool way to wrap that up there.

781
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: But the Utah high school football running back extraordinaiir who

782
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: that offers from nobody and had to go JUCO for

783
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: a couple of years before getting to Utah State before

784
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 2: finally his last year playing power football at Oklahoma State

785
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 2: to now, you know, signing a contract that's going to

786
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: pay a multi million dollars a year. That's pretty cool,

787
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 2: that's what.

788
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: It's really really cool, And.

789
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: I kind of forget the details. But Dale did a

790
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 4: real deep dive with Warren and talk to family and like,

791
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,959
Speaker 4: you know, his whole history when it became pretty clear

792
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 4: that he was going to be part of this team

793
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 4: and he wasn't just a cute story.

794
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 3: He's gonna get cut in week one, you know that

795
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 3: kind of thing.

796
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 4: And it is a really odd path and I forget

797
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: what exactly the recruiting situation was. It was him and JK. Dobbins,

798
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,879
Speaker 4: and I forget who the other one was. That were

799
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 4: super highly regarded, but he just didn't end up anywhere

800
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 4: and I can't remember exactly why, you know, strange.

801
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a little undersized. Yeah, you know, small

802
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 2: schools Utah. It's not western Pennsylvania or Ohio or Texas. Yeah,

803
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: but an awesome story for Jalen Moore.

804
00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 3: For him, I love that. I love the signing.

805
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: Very cool, and I think he I think he's flying

806
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 2: a little bit under the radar. I think he's primed

807
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: for a big year, and I.

808
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 3: Think they brought it up. But when you do sign

809
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,360
Speaker 3: a deal like this, a little more expected of you

810
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: as a leader.

811
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: Totally right. It's a you know, this is another one

812
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 2: of those things like Max Starks talks about a lot,

813
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 2: Arthur Motes talks about a lot. It happens very quickly

814
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 2: where you're looked at as the young guy in the

815
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: locker room to all of the sudden the veteran.

816
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: Yeah.

817
00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: I mean it's like an over It's like an overnight

818
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 2: change where your first year you're the young, wet behind

819
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 2: the ears. Okay, second year, second year, we're not gonna

820
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 2: treat you like a rookie anymore, but you're still kind

821
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 2: of looked at as a young guy and then almost

822
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 2: like that bang, year three, here you go, Like we

823
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 2: talked about that with ke Benton at ot As in

824
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: mini camp, like I don't know if you remember, but

825
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 2: I asked him about that. I was like, hey, like

826
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 2: year three, it's like all of a sudden, you're the

827
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 2: one that the guys in the in the room are

828
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: looking at. And obviously you've got Cam Hayward in there,

829
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: but at the same time you're kind of the the

830
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: next tenured guy behind him.

831
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 3: I'm sure why you black as bent and stuff.

832
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right, and Derek Harmon and those guys,

833
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 2: no question, Just like Caleb Johnson's gonna be picking Jalen

834
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,479
Speaker 2: Warren's ear, or at least he's better picking his brain

835
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: in his ear all the time.

836
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: Uh.

837
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,800
Speaker 3: And yet in the locker room and things are carry

838
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 3: little of a stick.

839
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: I think I think Jalen Warren is in the right position,

840
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: right mindset, right skill set to handle that and step

841
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: into that role for the Steelers this year. Matt a

842
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 2: pretty significant I don't know, potential issue question lingering around

843
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons in this massive trade that just happened. We

844
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: have not so we'll do that. Let's talk a little

845
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 2: bit about that. We'll do some national around the league

846
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 2: stuff to close down the first hour of the program

847
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 2: here when we return on the other side, Matt Williamson,

848
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: West Shooler, It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

849
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network, your tuned.

850
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

851
00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

852
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: Matt, one of my U I guess, favorite old cliches,

853
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: if you will. One of my favorite old time he

854
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: sayings is where there's smoke, there's fire, Okay, And suddenly

855
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 2: there seems to be a lot of smoke around Micah

856
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: Parsons and his health and his status heading into week

857
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 2: one with his new team. But I guess maybe before

858
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 2: we get into that. Yeah, yeah, bigger picture, your thoughts

859
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: on the Michaeh. Parsons trade. Good for green Bay, good

860
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 2: for Dallas, fair for both. Were you surprised he actually

861
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 2: got moved a little? Yeah?

862
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, I means such a big name you don't see

863
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 4: too much. I mean, of all the defensive players on

864
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 4: the planet, with all respect to TJ, he's the.

865
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 2: Most valuable, the one you would want right now.

866
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're building a team what's in front of him.

867
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 4: I'm obviously you know, age has a ton to do

868
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 4: with it. Position he plays, he's an utter.

869
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: He just turned twenty six. He's just turned twenty six.

870
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 4: He's on an easy Hall of Fame path as we

871
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 4: speak right now, if not an all time great, you

872
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: know type of path.

873
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 3: He's a special, special player. Now. I don't know what

874
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: Dallas is doing, to be honest with you, I mean.

875
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 4: I don't know Jerry Jones, but he's always been very,

876
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: very interested in the brand and making money. And he's

877
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 4: made a ton of money for the league, and they

878
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: have the most valuable franchise.

879
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 2: That standpoint, you can't you can't knock his.

880
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah home run.

881
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 4: But lately I don't think winning has been the top

882
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 4: priority for this team. And to do this right before

883
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 4: the season.

884
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 3: They play Thursday on the road.

885
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: They played to the traveling to Philly tomorrow.

886
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, morale has to be low and you took your best,

887
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 4: I mean, right if the Steels Starry T. J. Watt

888
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 4: today didn't think they'd be gung ho for the Jets game,

889
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 4: you know, I mean it's it's kind of.

890
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 2: Clark, who's a fine player, but all right, mostly for

891
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 2: draft capital is trade, right, that's something that's going to

892
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 2: make us better Thursday night in Philadelphia, no doubt.

893
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 3: I mean, they became a worst team this year. Yes,

894
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 3: even it's not even like.

895
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: We should maybe revisit that over under conversation.

896
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: I'm definitely going right right, certainly.

897
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 4: And they do have some edge guys that they've drafted

898
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 4: lately in the second round that are promising. But they

899
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: look like a lot of Robbins to the Batman type,

900
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 4: and their d tackles were kind of light. They picked

901
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: up Kenny Clark, it was they were real light, but

902
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 4: still the defense got massively worse, and Parsons was unbelievable

903
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 4: when he came back from injury last year. The price

904
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 4: is just too low, I mean, because those picks are

905
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 4: not going to be top ten.

906
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: That was the biggest kicking for me.

907
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

908
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 2: If they're trading them to the Browns yeah, or the Panthers, yeah,

909
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: or the Jags or the Giants or the Jets or

910
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 2: somebody that we think is going to be picking in

911
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: the top ten that usually does that usually does. It's

912
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: a different story. But like you said that that pick

913
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 2: it best is going to be twenty.

914
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: If they make the playoffs is twenty or higher.

915
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: We would you rather have Micah Parsons or a twenty

916
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 2: twentieth overall pick and twenty second overall pick?

917
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 4: I know, I know, I think the return is very light.

918
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: And from the Packers' perspective, I in a different podcast

919
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 4: I had picked them to win their division before the trade.

920
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 3: Well now I feel better about it.

921
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think they actually had them as

922
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 4: the NFC representative going. I think they could go that far.

923
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: And a criticism like, I have a lot of respect

924
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: to the Packers.

925
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 3: They have a good team. They have a lot of

926
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: good players.

927
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 4: There really are though, That's what I said, Yeah, like

928
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 4: they didn't have who's the superstar that scares you that?

929
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't even have to be an edge.

930
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 4: Rusher, but it goes a long way when it is

931
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 4: when you have a lead or you're in the playoffs,

932
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 4: And now they totally have that. For Shaun Garry is

933
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 4: a really good player, but he's not to this level.

934
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 4: He's going to get singled like high Smith all the time, now,

935
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 4: you know. I mean, it's just such a ripple effect.

936
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 4: I don't know what to think of the back situation,

937
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 4: but it can't be long term, or they wouldn't have

938
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 4: made the deal I have. I know he has practiced

939
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: in a packer uniform. Yeah, you know to some degree.

940
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting because the last thing you expect to

941
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: see when you when someone is you know, involved in

942
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 2: a blockbuster trade, which let's make no mistake, this is

943
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 2: a blockbuster trade. Certainly you know the headlines now or

944
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: Michael Parsons has facet joint Sprain may be able to

945
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,879
Speaker 2: play Sunday Verse Lions with epidural sources. Michael Parsons may

946
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 2: need back injection to play Matt. If I'm the Packers,

947
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: I'm not thrilled about this. I mean, I think you

948
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: thought that there was There was obviously probably a realization

949
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 2: that he's not going to be kind of same church,

950
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 2: different pew as the Cam Hayward conversation, Like this guy

951
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: isn't going to be fully up to speed and ready

952
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: to go one hundred percent week one. Sure, but that's

953
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,680
Speaker 2: a little different than needing back injections to play in

954
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: early September.

955
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 4: You don't love back whatever or epidural or shot I

956
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 4: mean any of that stuff, not words you want to

957
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: hear that you just invested in and you made him. Oh,

958
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 4: by the way, the most expensive player non quarterback ever

959
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 4: by far, I mean, much higher than like EJ's contract.

960
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: So no, that part's not great. And all these like.

961
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 3: Hold in guys or hold out guys.

962
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 4: They always like bring up an injury something and we

963
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 4: always just assume that they're fine.

964
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 3: But maybe it wasn't, you know.

965
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, and man, I don't know back injection week one,

966
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: that would that would make me a little nervous. But

967
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: obviously that's something that we'll keep an eye on here

968
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,240
Speaker 2: as we roll along. But yeah, it's.

969
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 4: A massive change of power though. I mean, like I

970
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: thought about putting Dallas in the playoffs. Now I'm not

971
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 4: even considering it. And you wonder, like, are they looking

972
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 4: at this as Okay, now we have four first round

973
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 4: picks over two years, does that mean they're gonna be

974
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: in the quarterback market?

975
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 3: They're moving on from Dak? Are they gonna go young?

976
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 5: You know?

977
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,239
Speaker 3: Ceedee, LAMBM gonna be thrilled about this.

978
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 4: I mean I look at like LAMB and DAK and

979
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 4: be like, hey, what are we doing here?

980
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: You know?

981
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 3: Right?

982
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 2: Yeah we try to win games right now? Or yeah, yeah, yeah,

983
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 2: I am totally with you on that huge ripple effect

984
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 2: very close to the start of the regular season. It's

985
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: certainly something that we'll be keeping an eye on. And yeah,

986
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: you know, Thursday night when you turn into that pregame coverage,

987
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: obviously there'll be a ton about the Eagles and that

988
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: Super Bowl banner that they're going to raise, but a

989
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:13,439
Speaker 2: lot about Michael Parsons and his absence, I'm sure on Thursday.

990
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 4: Night, and it sounded like Jerry got it through his

991
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 4: head that's what he wanted to do, and hey, it's

992
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 4: his team. He can do whatever the heck he wants.

993
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: But at his age, and it kind of reminds me

994
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 4: like End of Road Al Davis, you know, like a

995
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,280
Speaker 4: great at what he did, but who's telling him no now?

996
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: And we all decline at some point, you know what

997
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 4: I mean?

998
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, even Bill Belichick, for my money, coach of

999
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: all time, had too much power and too much of

1000
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: a say over the roster everything again, and it did

1001
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: not work out well.

1002
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 3: I think about the other the game North Carolina wasn't

1003
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: a swallow either, but.

1004
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 2: I personally enjoyed that. I just quick little side fifteen

1005
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: second tangent for you. I mean, you mentioned earlier in

1006
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: the in the hour. I love college football, of course,

1007
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: like point blank pier people who try and use college

1008
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: football for something. It's not bother me, all right, And

1009
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 2: I just this Belichick thing, and I'm gonna bring in

1010
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 2: all my NFL buddies. And they're two different games. That's why, Nick,

1011
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: that's why the Pete Carrolls that actually win at both

1012
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: levels are so rare, you know, like it is, there's

1013
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 2: not many that do both at a highlight. In fact,

1014
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 2: it's usually like a Nick Saban where you're really good

1015
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 2: at one and you stink at the other. You know,

1016
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,400
Speaker 2: it's a it's a Matt rule, you're really good at

1017
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 2: one and you stink at the other. So I didn't

1018
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: mind seeing the horn frogs going in there into Chapel

1019
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 2: Hill and doing a little stomping around stick the basketball Carolina.

1020
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,919
Speaker 2: All right, hour in the books, another hour to go, Matt,

1021
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: What do you say we in light of this, in

1022
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 2: the ripple effect that this has in the NFL and

1023
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 2: particularly the NFC, you want to take a look at

1024
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 2: some power rankings when we were trying to start hour

1025
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Speaker 2: number two. We'll do that and more as we roll

1026
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Speaker 2: along into our number two. What shooler, Matt Williamson. It

1027
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