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Speaker 2: I'm like, how.

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Speaker 1: Would any of us even know what it's like to

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Speaker 2: However, however, I.

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Speaker 1: Think it would be fair for me to use the

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Speaker 1: phrase in this case. I'm gonna run it by my

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Speaker 1: guy from Salam Good evening to everybody. We are broad

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Speaker 1: casting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Been a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks since I've been able to talk to

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Speaker 1: my guy, Good evening, How.

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Speaker 3: Are you, hey, man? Have a week off?

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Speaker 1: Last week? You too?

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Speaker 2: I found out?

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean you said you weren't coming.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I ain't coming either.

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Speaker 2: I might have been. I might have been south of

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Speaker 1: Oh oh yeah, hey, you know, oh might have been?

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Speaker 1: Might have been.

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Speaker 3: Money?

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Speaker 1: Well you can't, you can when you put seven couples

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Speaker 4: Who, big house.

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Speaker 3: It was a two bedroom condo, and was like, no.

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Speaker 1: We weren't.

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Speaker 2: We had our own rooms. Everybody was doing all right, Okay,

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Speaker 2: that's good if you have a good time.

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Speaker 1: We had a phenomenal time. Man, we had a phenomenal time.

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Speaker 1: High school friends all turning fifty this year, so we

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Speaker 1: decided to celebrate together. Uh some of us have had

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Speaker 1: our fiftieth some of us have not. But but we

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Speaker 2: Man, right right, No, I know I've reached.

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Speaker 3: That moment you're not all your season.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've reached that moment in my life where because

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Speaker 1: you know, I know people think this stuff's all scripted,

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Speaker 1: and literally next to none of it is. And so

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Speaker 1: thoughts and like analogies and old car or movie quotes

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Speaker 1: or references, things will just pop into our heads, and

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Speaker 1: increasingly I will say them, and the minute you say them,

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Speaker 2: They're all too young.

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Speaker 1: Nobody understands my references anymore, cause you're thirty years old

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Speaker 1: and you were in diapers when what I'm referencing took place.

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Speaker 2: So I'm starting.

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Speaker 3: To feel that, yeah, that's weird.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: At an increasing level, there's.

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Speaker 4: Like a trend going on, like on TikTok or Instagram

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Speaker 4: adults being shown pictures of things and they have zero

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Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.

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Speaker 1: you guys. I'm like, so, Return of the Jedi was

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Speaker 4: And then I'm like, huh a VHS, right, have no

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Speaker 4: I mean to me, that's crazy, but but it lets

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Speaker 4: They don't know what that is like when we're talking

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Speaker 2: It's not a zoom. So we called something.

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Speaker 4: So we don't we have a home phone. No one

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Speaker 2: I'm like, wow, you should have had him call somebody

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Speaker 2: And then when the thing beeps, just like okay, now,

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Speaker 4: I remember being in Collegen having an answering machine, you

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Speaker 1: Like so long, it's a long time ago.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to relish in these moments because I

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Speaker 1: Yeah so do I I like, I feel great, Like

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Speaker 1: Well you played football, I like, but you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean? Like I Doc, I feel phenomenal. But but

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Speaker 2: Like? Like Mary, if I say E walk, do you

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Speaker 6: What the hell is that?

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Speaker 3: You don't know?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 6: What is that?

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Speaker 3: Mary? You don't know what a walk?

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Speaker 7: That's actually agregious?

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Speaker 1: Mary, you don't.

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Speaker 7: Know it's from Return of the Jedi Teddy Bear.

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Speaker 8: Hold On, I've never seen any of the Star Wars

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Speaker 8: no no, Nub nub, but I only know it from

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Speaker 3: That's what they say, That's what the e walks say.

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Speaker 6: No, I know that, That's why I've heard them say

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Speaker 6: I've never seen Star Wars.

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Speaker 3: You know what a magua is.

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Speaker 4: No, God, a magua is what the grimlet turns into.

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Speaker 6: I don't even know what movie it's from. It's the move.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 4: We can spend three hours on this. This is fascinating, Mary.

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Speaker 7: It isn't suitable to be like the spokesperson wasn't seen

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Speaker 7: Star Wars because people know what he walks on.

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Speaker 1: People are people.

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Speaker 6: I just turned twenty two a month ago.

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Speaker 3: Oh, this is a perfect experience.

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Speaker 6: But I but I know about a home phone and

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Speaker 3: You know what a VHS taken?

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Speaker 6: My dadd used to have a lot of them.

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Speaker 2: Does this phrase mean anything to you? Be kind rewind.

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Speaker 6: Actually Christopher has just said that, but yes, that's what

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Speaker 6: it means. Blockbuster Yeah, whoa.

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Speaker 4: Blackbuster.

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Speaker 2: We've had enough of that in this society. Okay, we

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is amazing.

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Speaker 8: Oh god, I'm I wouldn't know what to do with

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Speaker 8: an answering machine, like I would just leave a voicemail?

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Speaker 1: No, yes, yeah, but how do you operate it? Like

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Speaker 4: You just press play? I was gonna say, what would

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Speaker 2: Mary?

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Speaker 6: Like if I was doing.

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Speaker 4: If you had an answer machine at home and someone

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna lie.

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Speaker 8: I was one of those people where I like, would

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Speaker 8: playing music. That's what I used to Okay what what song?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 6: Ah? I don't know, probably lovers and friends?

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, okay, remember remember would you talk over it?

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Speaker 4: Would you turn it like of course, so it's real loud.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was. I was notorious for doing the hello,

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Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, yeah, it's like, hey, what's up. It's like, hey, man,

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Speaker 1: What now?

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Speaker 8: My mom got so mad she left me a four

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Speaker 8: minute voicemail in Arabic.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, oh god, that's so good.

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Speaker 1: Were you one of the people that would tell people

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't wait for the bee, wait for the

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Speaker 2: Beep, and then let me know what you need to

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Speaker 3: What was your answering machine message? H Mark.

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Speaker 1: Oh god, I was pretty straightforward, you know, I think

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Speaker 4: These not still exist.

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Speaker 7: I feel like people still have these.

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Speaker 3: Cell phones, don't know, but the version cell phone goes

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Speaker 4: It's just like, yeah, you couldn't check your messages until

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Speaker 4: you got home and then they started. You could call

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Speaker 4: your voicemail, you can call your you can call your

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Speaker 4: answering machine and type in a number code and it

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Speaker 4: would tell you your messages.

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Speaker 3: You have three's okay, No.

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Speaker 8: We used to have that, and then iPhone like now

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Speaker 8: you can go straight to yes, well you FaceTime, you

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Speaker 8: get your FaceTime voicemails now too.

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Speaker 3: No, that's crazy too. Yeah, my wife one of those.

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Speaker 3: She was like, what the hell is this?

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Speaker 2: Right? It goes all go straight to voicemail now because

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Speaker 2: nobody answers their phone.

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Speaker 3: Why are you calling me? Just text me?

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Speaker 1: Like we used to run around the house looking for

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Speaker 6: I didn't understand the concept of beepers though, I don't under.

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Speaker 4: Well, there was no cell phones, so if you wanted

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Speaker 4: call a page your number and I would see your number,

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Speaker 4: and then I would go to a phone call and

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Speaker 6: Free basically doing jail call.

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Speaker 4: What it literally used to cost money to make phone calls.

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Speaker 1: What I learned?

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: This is the right, This is this is the social

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Speaker 4: It's so much anxiety that goes into that because it's

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Speaker 8: Now they'll take a video and be like TikTok no,

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Speaker 4: Can I get your Can I get your TikTok or

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Speaker 2: I'm like, you're right here right now, just say it.

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Speaker 6: So you just give girls your beeper number?

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Speaker 3: And my dad was like, yeah, we're not doing that right.

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Speaker 4: I'd be like, hey, you know, I talk and you

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Speaker 4: This is so now you're going through your bed like

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Speaker 4: if she told them like you this is Marcus, this

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Speaker 4: your name because you can't keep calling. No, this is

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Speaker 3: That's what was.

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Speaker 4: That was part of the the courting ritual. That was

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Speaker 3: It was dope.

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Speaker 2: You didn't get to preview people like you do now.

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Speaker 4: No, you don't get to see all the button pictures

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Speaker 3: Now everybody got the only fans right right.

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Speaker 1: You actually had to just like go through all the wars.

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Speaker 1: You're like, wow, we're not compatible at all, right now

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Speaker 2: Who That was funny right there.

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Speaker 3: See, I love the whole second.

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Speaker 4: No sports with just life, right, it's just life sport

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Speaker 4: the sport of dating.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's sport.

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Speaker 4: How do you meet people? How do you meet eligible

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean I don't really.

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Speaker 8: So I were like, oh, I saw you on Instagram

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Speaker 3: Well you need a paper.

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Speaker 4: Oh Like, if a guy.

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Speaker 8: Asked me for my Instagram, I'm like, yeah, I'm not

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Speaker 3: Would so you would want him to ask you for

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Speaker 6: Of course I'm an adult.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, Hey, all right?

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Speaker 1: Would and would you like write it on a cocktail napkin?

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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, I think it's it's cool to be creative

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Speaker 3: You know what my you know what my move was.

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Speaker 4: This is my move, Like when we all went out

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Speaker 4: You always go get something to eat after you come

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: he'll take some water over there, and be like, hey,

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Speaker 4: that's for the gentleman over there. If they laughed, then

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Speaker 3: If they didn't, we just moved.

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Speaker 2: On, move on.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, men don't do that these things.

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Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, you know, how would they ever

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Speaker 2: No, and that was back when a drink was only

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we sent water. We didn't even know. We

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 3: We said the free stuff.

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Speaker 1: I'm saying somebody should do that now because the cocktails

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Speaker 8: No, they're debating right now, and they're saying, actually the

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Speaker 1: Now, that's debating.

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Speaker 6: That's what online. That's what the debating.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: I got you, yeah, I got the drinks ladies.

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Speaker 6: See you see why now girls don't really date the

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Speaker 3: I feel sorry you feel sorry for us. I feel

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Speaker 6: I feel sorry for me too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the good old days, you know.

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Speaker 1: next and I will reveal why I would like to

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Speaker 1: use the phrase act like you've been there before. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: generation or whatnot. Yes, less than they used to, but

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Speaker 1: you get the idea, last thirty forty years the Yankees

456
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,520
Speaker 1: and the Yankees is the biggest brand in the sport.

457
00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: But when the Knicks are good, it takes over that

458
00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 1: city and they're doing street signs and going banana Land

459
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:26,720
Speaker 1: because they made the Conference finals, and I.

460
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Speaker 2: Have been blown away.

461
00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 1: Look, obviously, one of the weirdest finishes to a game

462
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Speaker 1: that we've ever seen in Game.

463
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Speaker 3: One, unbelievable, right, But.

464
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Speaker 1: For the Knicks to get to the Conference finals and

465
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Speaker 1: arrive there with the Chips falling the way they have,

466
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Speaker 1: no Celtics, no Calves, holy crap. For you to lose

467
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 1: both of those games, I just I've never seen New

468
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 1: York look smaller than they did this week.

469
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Speaker 2: It looks like a small town. They're like, our guys

470
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Speaker 2: made the conference finals.

471
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Speaker 1: Whoa, And it's like, wow, you celebrated way too early.

472
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Speaker 4: It was an egregious celebration. It was too much. It

473
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Speaker 4: was way too much still to be done. And it

474
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Speaker 4: just it made it feel like, now, you got to remember,

475
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Speaker 4: the players weren't celebrating like that. Correct, these are the fans,

476
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Speaker 4: of course. But what it does is it shifts a

477
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Speaker 4: level of expectation. Because they were talking about all of

478
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Speaker 4: a sudden that they were winning the championship, We're going

479
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Speaker 4: to the finals, that was immediate, and not talking about

480
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Speaker 4: the conference finals. They were talking about their going to

481
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Speaker 4: the NBA Finals for the first time in you know,

482
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 4: however long And it just it made people stop realizing

483
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Speaker 4: there's work to be done, a lot of work to

484
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Speaker 4: be done. And all the Pacers did was just feed

485
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 4: off that. They just fed off of it. I mean,

486
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Speaker 4: this is what the I think the Pacers lost one

487
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Speaker 4: game on the road so far.

488
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Speaker 1: I mean, let's see the Pacers right where they they

489
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,200
Speaker 1: went up too oh in Cleveland and then they closed

490
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Speaker 1: out in Cleveland and then they only lost one game

491
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Speaker 1: in the Bucks series completely, so yes.

492
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Speaker 2: You are, you are correct. They I mean they've only

493
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Speaker 2: they've only lost two games.

494
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Speaker 3: Period, one of them on the road, one of them

495
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Speaker 3: at home.

496
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Speaker 1: And it was in this situation where they had gone

497
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Speaker 1: up too oh on Cleveland, and then they went to

498
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Speaker 1: Indiana and Cleveland blew them out and for a moment

499
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh, okay, Cleveland's about their again, and then

500
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Speaker 1: they were not. And and the Knicks are I mean

501
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: this game right now, we're watching it, it's late first

502
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Speaker 1: quarter and the Knicks are up by a couple but

503
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Speaker 1: I'm like, dude.

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Speaker 4: They're I'm gonna say that.

505
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Speaker 1: They're they're They're in They're in a tremendous amount of trial.

506
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Speaker 4: I'm going to say this, And it may not be

507
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Speaker 4: very favorable to New York fans and all of that.

508
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Speaker 4: The New York Knicks are not winning this series.

509
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Speaker 1: No.

510
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Speaker 4: And the reason I say that it look anything is possible.

511
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 4: But the reason I'm saying that is psychologically, when you're

512
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Speaker 4: playing the way they played in Game one, I mean,

513
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Speaker 4: it was a masterful thing. It was beautiful. With two

514
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,879
Speaker 4: minutes left, being up by twelve points at home, the

515
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 4: impossible had to happen for you to lose. The impossible happened.

516
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Speaker 4: And then following the impossible, you come in the next

517
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Speaker 4: game and you have to resubmit your submit yourself as

518
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,959
Speaker 4: the New York Knicks, the home favorite, this is our floor.

519
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: You guys got away with a fluke that didn't happen.

520
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 4: They were severely outplayed. Coach Thibodeau was completely out coached.

521
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 4: His rotations, his substitutions awful, just gosh awful. And so

522
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:21,000
Speaker 4: me watching them now go on the road and have

523
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 4: to win two games, like they have to win the

524
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Speaker 4: next two games and then come back to New York

525
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Speaker 4: and win that game to even get themselves back in

526
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Speaker 4: this series. And I don't think number one, I don't

527
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Speaker 4: think they're deep enough to do it. And number two,

528
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Speaker 4: I don't think TIBs can coach them in a way

529
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Speaker 4: to do it.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 4: And Carl Anthony Towns is he out this game or

532
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 4: is he in there?

533
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Speaker 9: Is he?

534
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's in there, but he didn't start though, Yeah

535
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:56,600
Speaker 4: he didn't start.

536
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Speaker 1: Well, maybe I'm mistaken.

537
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Speaker 4: Then No, he's in there now. But I mean it's

538
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: the whole first the beginning of the first act. I

539
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,639
Speaker 4: don't did he start the game. I didn't see him

540
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 4: out there at the start.

541
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Speaker 2: He listed as a starter, right, Okay, yeah, he's listed

542
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Speaker 2: as a starter.

543
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Speaker 4: But I just don't think he knows what to do

544
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 4: with his rotation don't. And it's bothering me, Like I'm looking,

545
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, what do you do?

546
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: Okay?

547
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: More more to say on this.

548
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Speaker 1: There's really only I mean, I think you're right, there's

549
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: only there's one reason why the Knicks are gonna not

550
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: win this series, and it's because they don't have Steve

551
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 1: de Seger and we do Steve.

552
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Speaker 4: Steve, what was your what was your answering machine message?

553
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 3: At home? Please read it to what what did you

554
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 3: say on your answer machine?

555
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 10: Actually I didn't. It was the voice of chick her

556
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Speaker 10: and the Laker.

557
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 4: Oh really, yeah, I leave you a message?

558
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 10: It is he He at one point was selling an

559
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 10: answering machine that you could copy into your machine.

560
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 3: That's amazing.

561
00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 10: I said, your friend is not home. And then he

562
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Speaker 10: had a couple of chicken phrases that he would use

563
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Speaker 10: on the air.

564
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Speaker 4: And then the beat how did you do that?

565
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Speaker 10: We interviewed whoever it was that was selling it, and

566
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Speaker 10: and that's how I got one.

567
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Speaker 4: Well, the part is you still have that.

568
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Speaker 7: You could almost definitely now get like an AI version

569
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Speaker 7: of that, like almost definitely exactly.

570
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure we could have that by the end

571
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Speaker 1: of the Well.

572
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Speaker 5: Didn't they have Ai l Michaels doing the Olympic highlights? Yeah, NBC, Well,

573
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Speaker 5: the Knicks could use an AI great team to come

574
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Speaker 5: back in this series.

575
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Speaker 10: Probably ain't happening. We're late first quarter and the Knicks

576
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 10: are tied at Indiana twenty six. So all this is

577
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Speaker 10: Game three of the NBA's Eastern Conference Finals. Karl Anthony

578
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 10: Towns is so far scoreless in this game. He does

579
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Speaker 10: have five rebounds, but each team shooting about thirty nine

580
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,439
Speaker 10: percent from the floor. Pacers took the first two of

581
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Speaker 10: the best of seven on the road in the w

582
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Speaker 10: NBA four games all finals home wins for Phoenix, Seattle,

583
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Speaker 10: and LA which beat Chicago ninety seventy eight. Atlanta won

584
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 10: its game easily seventy nine to fifty five over Connecticut,

585
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 10: which is zero to four in the NHL playoffs. Today,

586
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 10: Edmonton went up two games to one in the West

587
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 10: Final with a six to one victory over Dallas. That

588
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 10: game was two to one late in the first period.

589
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 10: USA Hockey took the World championship in overtime, beating Switzerland

590
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 10: won nothing in the final. Alex Polo won the Indy

591
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 10: five hundred, the first driver from Spain to take it.

592
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 10: Below has won five of the six races so far

593
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Speaker 10: this season. Fox has all the IndyCar races this season.

594
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 10: This is the guy who won the IndyCar season title

595
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,239
Speaker 10: three times in the last four years. Finally has an

596
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 10: Indy five hundred championship NASCAR six hundred going on right now,

597
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 10: they're at the halfway point. William Byron in the lead.

598
00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 10: Denny Hamlin is second. As for Major League Baseball Sunday

599
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 10: night game at New York, it's the Mets three to

600
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 10: one over the Dodgers. Top of the fifth inning, Shohei

601
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 10: Otani with a leadoff homer is eighteenth of the year. However,

602
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 10: the Mets answered with a two run shot bttom of

603
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 10: the first from Pete Alonzo and in the third Juan

604
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 10: Soto with an RBI on a fielder's choice Dodger infield

605
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 10: with a couple of airs. They have two on, two

606
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 10: out in the fifth, but trailing at New York three

607
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 10: to one. Earlier, the Yankees won at Colorado five to four.

608
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 10: The Rockies record is nine and forty four.

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00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's just happening.

610
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 10: How And then there's the Athletics, who had lost eleven

611
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 10: in a row until a home win over Philadelphia today

612
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 10: five to for the final saved to Mason Miller, his

613
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Speaker 10: twelfth to go along with an era of about six.

614
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 10: Miami won three nothing at the Angels San Diego of

615
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 10: five to three winner at Atlanta. The Padres had lost

616
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 10: seven of eight. Padres starting pitcher Michael King is on

617
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Speaker 10: the injured list with a bad shoulder.

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Speaker 1: Back to you, great stuff, Steve, Yeah, I have a

619
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Speaker 1: feeling there might be more on the Colorado Rockies later

620
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: on in the show. They're a ton of fun. They're

621
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: on pace for the worst record in the history of ever.

622
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: Did you know that?

623
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 3: I'm not even kidding, like the word.

624
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 1: Yeah three just like we don't have to usually as

625
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: a qualifier, you know what I mean. It's kind of

626
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: like that collapse of the Knicks the other night. They're like,

627
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,719
Speaker 1: that was the worst collapse ever. Oh, there you go.

628
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: We don't have to be like since nineteen eighty eight, No, never,

629
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: never before has somebody lost that kind of a lead

630
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 1: with two forty five to go. Never before has a

631
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: team been on the pace that the Rockies are on,

632
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: or at least that was true the other night. I

633
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: think they won a game over the Yankees, maybe a

634
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 1: couple of nights ago, so maybe that changed their trajectory.

635
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, they're literally on pace to maybe be

636
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: the worst team of all time. And they're tucked into

637
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Speaker 1: a division that's got four other really good teams. Yes,

638
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: and they haven't even played like the division teams. You

639
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: haven't really played each other much yet, so it's gonna

640
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: get worse. Oh lord, They're gonna get worse. Anyway, We're

641
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports radio studios, not done with that

642
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: NIXT thing yet. Can I say this, like, maybe somewhere

643
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,959
Speaker 1: in this whole Nick story is a little bit of karma,

644
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 1: And I'm probably overstepping by saying that I have nothing

645
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: against the Knicks. I have nothing against New York. I

646
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: just kind of have something against Jalen Brunson. And and

647
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: here's what it is. I have my team, you have

648
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: your team. When my team is out, I now select

649
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 1: who I'm rooting for in the NBA based on who's

650
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: a foul bator and who's not. This is how I

651
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: root in the NBA. Like both conference championships very easy

652
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: for me, Go.

653
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: Pacers, Go Wolves.

654
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Why because the guard on the other two teams is

655
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 1: a foul beat and a bad one.

656
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Speaker 2: Did say deserve the MVP?

657
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: Sure? They were so good. I don't know how you

658
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 1: couldn't pick somebody from that team. But watching him play basketball.

659
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: It was like jansar.

660
00:30:58,120 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 2: It's painful.

661
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 4: It's the reason why I as as James was scoring

662
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: all those buckets, I just never was a fan. I

663
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 4: can't take the head flop back. I mean, I know

664
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 4: it's part of the game, and I know you're trying

665
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: to draw contact and I get all of those things,

666
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 4: but it's just hard to watch. It's a difficult brand

667
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 4: of basketball to buy into.

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Speaker 2: Very much so.

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Speaker 4: And so I I, you know, not James or he's

670
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 4: not getting those calls anymore like they're you know, Shay

671
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 4: is getting them.

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00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 3: Eventually he won't.

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Speaker 4: It'll be called what they have the term marginal, marginal contact.

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Speaker 2: Or incidental Yep, yeah, it's you know.

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Speaker 4: It's no, it's marginal contact on the drive. And you know,

676
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Speaker 4: I like the way that the playoffs are being officiated.

677
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 4: I like physical basketball. I like you physically dominating your

678
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 4: opponent opposed to getting bailed out. That's just a brand

679
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 4: of basketball. I like, I respect that brand of basketball.

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Speaker 3: It's up with you.

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00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 4: And maybe because we grew up with answering machines, I

682
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Speaker 4: don't know.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, yeah, Like I was an ewalk for Halloween

684
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: one time, and so that's the way I feel about

685
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: basketball too. Maybe that's why I don't know, But yeah,

686
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: like I look at certain players.

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Speaker 2: Here's the other thing. Though.

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Speaker 1: You say it's part of the game, and it's true,

689
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: but I'm like, not everybody. I don't feel Anthony Edwards

690
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: does this.

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00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,719
Speaker 3: No, no, he doesn't.

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00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: I don't feel he does this. I don't feel like

693
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: Tyrese Haliburton does this. Jalen Brunson the other day, I

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Speaker 1: don't know, did you see this slow mo video where

695
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: he literally grabs the arm of an opponent and slaps

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Speaker 1: his own face with the other person's arm.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, what what are you.

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00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 1: Doing out there? What is your goal? When you have

699
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 1: the ball in your hand? What's going through your mind?

700
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: Are you trying to score or are you trying to

701
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 1: make the official think something?

702
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: Happened. It literally looks like that.

703
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: The entire approach to the game is to end up

704
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: on the ground and and make the official think that

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00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: something happened, and I don't see that.

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Speaker 3: Watch.

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00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, every player is not like that, and so that's

708
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Speaker 1: how I'm doing it. Man.

709
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: I'm picking and choosing based on that.

710
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: Now, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm okay with that. Look.

711
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: I was really pulling for New York. I thought it

712
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 4: would be great for the city. I like Brunton, I

713
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 4: like what, you know what he's had to go through

714
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 4: the fact that Dallas gave him up, and you know,

715
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 4: he wasn't a mark. He's made himself who he is.

716
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 4: I respect that. But they are not showing up, man,

717
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: They're not showing up. They are absent to the party,

718
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: and it's it's it's hard to watch.

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Speaker 1: Yep, yep. Well, they're in a must win situation that

720
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Speaker 1: that will unfold during our show tonight, so we will

721
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: be uh, we'll be all over it and and take

722
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Speaker 1: you the rest of the way. There is one thing

723
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: I would like to come after that. His kind of

724
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: pacers related a small thing, but I'd like to do it,

725
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Speaker 1: and then we'll get to the touchport stuff at the

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Speaker 1: top of the hour. Glad you're with us tonight with

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Speaker 1: it from Salama Mark Willard. This is Fox Sports Radio.

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00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: You're listening no Fox Sports Radio Radio. All right, We're

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00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,800
Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports Radio studios. That's it from Salama

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Speaker 1: Mark Willard. Good time already tonight and nowhere near done.

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Speaker 2: So I want to run this by you.

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Speaker 1: Reggie Miller was in the building, so it was super

733
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: cool and he was paying homage and I get it.

734
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 1: They were down by fourteen with two forty five to go.

735
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: This is a never forget kind of a comeback, and

736
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: it happened in Madison Square Garden. And you know me,

737
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: I already established this off the top of the show.

738
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: I don't like telling athletes act like you've been there before,

739
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: because I've never been there before. I'd probably set my

740
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: butt on fire and run laps around Statue.

741
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 2: Of Liberty if I did something like that.

742
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: So I'm not like, celebrate, players celebrate, have a good time.

743
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 2: This is life. So I'm cool with all of that.

744
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: But the choke thing is interesting to me because it

745
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: feels very much like in college basketball when Duke or

746
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: North Carolina or somebody like that would come to town

747
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: and you upset them and your crowd starts chanting overrated,

748
00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 1: because I thought to myself, well, you're denigrating your own accomplishment.

749
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: If I'm Tyrese Halliburton, I want to focus on dude,

750
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:55,280
Speaker 1: I just came back on you. Not you choked. Doesn't

751
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: that I mean, this is not a major thing, just

752
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: kind of a weird thing. I don't underst dance celebrations

753
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 1: that are pointed at whoever I just beat actually sucks

754
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: or underperformed.

755
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: It takes away from what you just did, doesn't it.

756
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: No, Okay, So that's one way to answer it.

757
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 4: So I loved it. And here's why I loved it.

758
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 4: It's the moment, it's the place, it's all of those things.

759
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 4: The two people who were involved in the original choke, yes,

760
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:40,439
Speaker 4: were in the building, Spike Lee and Reggie Miller right yep,

761
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 4: in a similar situation to where the Knicks had the

762
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 4: lead and Reggie Miller scored nine points in like eight seconds, right,

763
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 4: they choked it away. And so the fact that Halliburton

764
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 4: understood the history of that which most young players don't

765
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 4: even they barely watch basketball.

766
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Speaker 2: Right right, No, that's fair. I like that aspect of.

767
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,760
Speaker 4: The two teams are the same and the most sacred

768
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: place you can play basketball, the Mecca is what they

769
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 4: call it. In Madison Square Garden, Spike Lee is sitting

770
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 4: in the same seats and Reggie is announcing the game.

771
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 4: That is when you do it, when you do something

772
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 4: so unheard of, so unfathomable, without fathom to quote, was

773
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 4: it a mega mind.

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00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: Yes, without fathom.

775
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,720
Speaker 4: When you do that and have the wherewithal to steal,

776
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 4: come back, win the game, or tie the game up.

777
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 4: At the point and point out to the Knicks fans

778
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: point out to the Knicks players, Reggie and Spike they

779
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 4: choked it. They choked it away because they choked it away.

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Speaker 3: They did they smoked it.

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Speaker 2: Of course, No, and I get all that, I get

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Speaker 2: all there.

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Speaker 1: This is even maybe a little bit less about that

784
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: particular moment than the concept in general.

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Speaker 2: I just was like, dude, you know, focus on like

786
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: pop up what you did.

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Speaker 3: No, they created the meme, the side by side meme.

788
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 4: Now I feel you, like again, that is huge. That

789
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: is what sport is. That is that is why I

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00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: believe the New York Knicks are in trouble, because Indiana

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Speaker 4: is not phased that crowd was insane at the Garden.

792
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 4: It was insane because for all intense purposes, the Knicks

793
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: were killing Yeah, and then they choked it away. I mean,

794
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: and now they'll have to live with that, that vision forever.

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Speaker 3: And I love that fair enough.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I could point out he missed the shot, Doug,

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00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: That's the other thing, dude, you got lucky.

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Speaker 1: You got lucky. But I get where you're coming from to.

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Speaker 1: I do want to get into the touch push. That

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Speaker 1: was big this week. It'll be big here next Sports Radio. Well, looky,

802
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: looky here, guess who we've got right here with us

803
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: on this show every single Sunday. Look everybody, it's a

804
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: former offensive lineman. Let's talk about the touch push right

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Speaker 1: here live in the Fox Sports Radio studios. We're also

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Speaker 1: following along our own little personal watch party Pacers and Knicks.

807
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: Halfway through the second quarter, Pacers are up by five.

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00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Nicks are in all kinds of trouble. We'll see where

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00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 1: it goes. Scott Foster is in the middle of a

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00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: review which should trigger everybody in America. But whatever, we'll

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Speaker 1: let that be. Whatever the heck that's going to be.

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00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I was fascinated by this this became such a triggering

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Speaker 1: kind of a debate.

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Speaker 2: Even amongst the owners.

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Speaker 1: This week owners meetings, the Philadelphia Eagles take the tush

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Speaker 1: Push as their own, and they come in and created

817
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: an NFL filibuster and talked and had a presentation and

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00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: brought Jason Kelcey in and had all kinds of different

819
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: angles that they threw out there for over an hour,

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00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: to the point where forty nine Ers owner Jed York said,

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00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: do you guys have any other bleep that you need

822
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: to say before we can finally go vote? And Lourie

823
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: with the Eagles just kept drawing out and drawing out,

824
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: mainly because they thought that we're gonna lose twenty four

825
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: votes needed to make it illegal. They only got twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The tush Push stays Ephraim, I'm not like offended by it.

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00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: We've watched it for a few years now, so like

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00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: I'm able to watch football with it and not be

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00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: offended by it. This is not a passionate place for me,

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00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: But if you asked me to vote, I'd have voted

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00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: to ban it because it's not football. I grew up

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00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 1: with football where you're not allowed to pick up other

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00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: players and carry them places and shove them through lines

834
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: and throw them over lines and all of these things.

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Speaker 1: And I get that the rule changed to a certain degree.

836
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Speaker 1: And maybe this is a little bit too subjective of

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00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: a thing to say, but that's how I feel. I

838
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: just don't feel like that's football. So I'd have banned it.

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Speaker 4: What do you think I wouldn't have banned it. It's

840
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 4: something that everyone can do, everyone has the personnel to

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00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 4: do it. And so you're at a situation where, I mean,

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00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: most teams don't have mobile quarterbacks, right, So would you

843
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 4: when when when Michael Vick was doing what he was doing,

844
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Speaker 4: or Randall Cunningham was doing what he was doing, would

845
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: you say, oh, well, the quarterback is only allowed to

846
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: scramble so so many yards because it's not fair.

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Speaker 3: Everybody can't do that.

848
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: No, my premise is not because everybody can't do it.

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Speaker 5: No.

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00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is, why would you ban it

851
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: because like one, only one team does it?

852
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: Well, no, that's not true.

853
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: The Bills do it, yeah, but they don't do it

854
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: with the level of success.

855
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't do it as well.

856
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 4: Right, so everyone and that and that lends to my point.

857
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 4: Everyone has an opportunity to do it. Now, if you

858
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,479
Speaker 4: suck at it, then you just suck at it, right,

859
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 4: So you don't ban the Well can't do it, so

860
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 4: we don't want it. Well, that that's not fair. Did

861
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 4: they ban three pointers because Stephen Clay was hitting all

862
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 4: the three pointers? Well?

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00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 3: Actually would know you've changed the game.

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00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: There is precedent actually with this. I mean they have

865
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: moved the three point line around. They did Tiger Proof Augusta,

866
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: like there are. There are things that sports do when

867
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 1: certain things are at least felt to be either against

868
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: the game itself or slanted too far in one direction

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Speaker 1: or one team.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they changed the rules for shock in the NBA.

871
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, But what I'm saying is if it's a football

872
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 4: game and it's eleven people. Now, the thing that I

873
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 4: would amended in the touch push and the rules for

874
00:43:55,800 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: the touch push, Okay, is what you said. I've all said.

875
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 4: I wouldn't ban the play, But what I would do

876
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 4: is I would change the parameters in terms of you

877
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 4: cannot pick up an opponent our player from behind and

878
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 4: advance him forward without his feet being on the ground.

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00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 4: That creates an unfair advantage. That's what I would have done. Right,

880
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 4: I can two people can't pick my quarterback up from

881
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 4: behind the line of scrimmage and bodies surf him over

882
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 4: the top of the defense.

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00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: Well, now we might be splitting hairs because I would

884
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: argue that that then then you are for banning the play.

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00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,479
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's the play.

886
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: It's not because if you watch clips of them doing it,

887
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 4: it doesn't happen every time.

888
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,360
Speaker 2: No, but I think it's almost kind of by accident.

889
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: Right, and so you accident.

890
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you make them hyper focused on not being penalized. Right,

891
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 4: So now they have to think about something as they

892
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: do it. That's how you slow it down. You don't

893
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 4: just turn it off. No, you make them say, okay,

894
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 4: we have to practice it a different way. We can't have,

895
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 4: you know, a leverage issue, unfair leverage. So now you

896
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 4: it's different conversation. And if it does happen, if they

897
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 4: do do it, they get penalized for it. Now it's

898
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 4: fourth and five or fourth and six. That's how you

899
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 4: do that. You don't take the playout. You make sure

900
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 4: that they don't crowds our bodies, serve an opponent over

901
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: the top of defenders. Yeah, remember how they change the

902
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 4: field goal block. You can now you can no longer

903
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 4: leverage play.

904
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's it.

905
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: No, I'm fine with that.

906
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: I like you know you you and I can meet

907
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,479
Speaker 1: in the middle on that absolutely, But that because that's

908
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 1: that's literally the part of what what I'm talking about

909
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:51,240
Speaker 1: with the touch push.

910
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 2: That to me makes it Hey, quick pause, dude, the

911
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 2: knicks are done.

912
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you it's the next are done.

913
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 2: Then are down by twenty the blood. Yeah, the knicks

914
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: are done.

915
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 4: They have no it's no pop, it's no gusta.

916
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 3: It is over man.

917
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, And we can get back to that in a sec.

918
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: But I like, that's the part of the play that

919
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: I'm talking about when I say that's not football.

920
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 4: That I agree with that, I agree with that, well,

921
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 4: I'm not.

922
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: Like, to me, it's very different than you're like, oh,

923
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 1: Randall Cunningham or Michael Vick comes into this league and

924
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 1: you're like, that's a special talent that is doing things

925
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 1: within the rules of football that we've never seen before. Well, hey, fantastic, fantastic.

926
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: I'm all for somebody brand new coming into the sport

927
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: and taking it to a different level. Some of the

928
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: names we've already brought up today Steph Curry Tiger Woods.

929
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 2: They don't.

930
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: They've done things like that for their sport, And I

931
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: don't know as a fan how you cannot love that.

932
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: What I don't like is that too often this thing

933
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: turns into not football all. And it's hard to make

934
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: that point because people are like, well then wait, hold on,

935
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: what's football? And and and we can answer that a

936
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: bunch of different ways. But in this particular case, I

937
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: think it's the reverse of a Michael Vick or Randall Cunningham.

938
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: This is a skillless play. And you may disagree with that,

939
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: because somewhere in the whole pantheon of offensive linemen, Jason

940
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: Kelsey and whoever the Eagles have, they they seem to

941
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: be really good at it and and and maybe others aren't.

942
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: So maybe I'm missing something.

943
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: But when I'm looking at the quarterback, when I'm watching

944
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, I'm seeing no ability. I'm seeing somebody hop

945
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: into somebody else's car and get taken for a ride.

946
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 4: Well, well that's what I'm saying. To be fair, he

947
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 4: does squad over six hundred pounds. You couldn't find another

948
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 4: quarterback in the league that does that.

949
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,959
Speaker 1: Very fair, And so how much of the chish push

950
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: do you think is the QB?

951
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 4: Well, I think they're different variations of it, that's the

952
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: whole point of it. They neither. None of them look

953
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 4: the same. And some the two people behind the tied

954
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,239
Speaker 4: end and the running back are literally physically picking up

955
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: the quarterback and taking him over the opponents, and some

956
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: of them he gets down low and you can see

957
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 4: his feet driving through and they just push him from behind.

958
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:32,040
Speaker 4: If you want to police it, then you change the variation.

959
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 4: That's how you do that.

960
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, i'd go back.

961
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: I never really understood why that rule got changed in

962
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: the first place. Where you can start shoving running backs

963
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 1: and quarterbacks across goal lines. I mean, but we see

964
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: it all the time and your career that was against

965
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: the rules rules.

966
00:48:55,120 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, you could not pull our aid the ball carrier, like.

967
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: I just think I think that its anti skill is

968
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 1: what that is. It's like a play kind of stops

969
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 1: and a running back's got enough leverage to not fall down,

970
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, the big guys meet

971
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: around the running back and we turn this into rugby.

972
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: And that's not football to me. It's a difference.

973
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 4: You get a scrumb but you also have to be

974
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: able to stop it. How do you stop it?

975
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: Well, how about this, If I'm a ref, explain to

976
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,839
Speaker 1: me how the heck I'm supposed to realistically be able

977
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 1: to blow a whistle because quote, forward progress has been stopped.

978
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: But now all of a sudden, this group.

979
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 1: Comes together and the running back is in the middle

980
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: of it, and at times you watch it kind of

981
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: pause for a good one, two, three count, and then

982
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: the offensive players sort of gain almost like a to

983
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,760
Speaker 1: ugg of war leverage, and you start falling forward.

984
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, wait a minute.

985
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: If there were no offensive linemen there, you would have

986
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: if that guy had fumbled, you would have said, no,

987
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: forward progress has already been stopped.

988
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a blurry line to me.

989
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: Man.

990
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:19,320
Speaker 4: I think the league approached it in a manner that

991
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,399
Speaker 4: wasn't conducive to what was actually going on. They kind

992
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 4: of had this narrative that it was unsafe. There's no

993
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 4: data to prove that, and so you lost that argument

994
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 4: right off the bat. There's no data to prove it's

995
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 4: not safe. There hasn't been a rash of injuries like

996
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,439
Speaker 4: the horse collar tackle.

997
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 3: Or you know, things like that.

998
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 4: Right, hitting the quarterback below the knees, so there is

999
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: no data to support it's unsafe. And because they started

1000
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:54,359
Speaker 4: this whole brew haha with it's not a safe play. Now,

1001
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 4: you put yourself in a box to be proven otherwise.

1002
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 4: And I think that lend lent to the fact that

1003
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 4: it's not it's not banned because the information that you

1004
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 4: started with isn't true.

1005
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 2: Right, No, that's a good point. That's a good point.

1006
00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 2: They attacked this from the wrong.

1007
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: The wrong completely the wrong place.

1008
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: Well, I think they thought, oh, that's the that's the

1009
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 1: buzzword that'll get everybody.

1010
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: Gone injury of course, safety, of course.

1011
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 2: Because it's it's not unsafe. It's actually one of the

1012
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: safer plays.

1013
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 1: I can see.

1014
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: They stuck a bubble.

1015
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 1: Around the quarterback and and everybody like nobody's coming in

1016
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: with a hopeful head of steam with a hit.

1017
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: It's not unsafe. I just think it's not football.

1018
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 4: Now, there's a way you can combat this. Now, this

1019
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 4: is a little devious. I'm gonna put this out on

1020
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 4: the air and maybe we'll see it, and maybe we

1021
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 4: won't see it. If you really want to make it

1022
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:53,399
Speaker 4: seem like it's unsafe. After every time they do it.

1023
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 4: You tell one of your defensive linemen stay doun, stay down.

1024
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 4: You do that three four weeks in a row. This

1025
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 4: is a different conversation. That's I'm just gonna throw that

1026
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: out there like that.

1027
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: Well, if I'm the Washington commanders, then that's what I'm doing. So,

1028
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: you know, right, because we gotta, we gotta. We got

1029
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: a tough division getting built over.

1030
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 3: There every single time, right, every single time.

1031
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: That's that's that's interesting way to do it.

1032
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,440
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's you know, my people think, you know,

1033
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,240
Speaker 4: thank god, I used my mind for good. But that's

1034
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 4: what that that is how if there is no if

1035
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 4: there is no evidence, then you have to create evidence.

1036
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 1: So we go from the touch bush is h is unsafe,

1037
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: which it's not, and then all within the same week

1038
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: we get something else that is accepted by the NFL

1039
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: owners that I do think is unsafe, and so uh

1040
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that coming up next with it from

1041
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: Salama Mark Willard.

1042
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,320
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Radio.

1043
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,759
Speaker 1: Live right now in the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1044
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,720
Speaker 4: I see you, Mary, Okay, leave a message. I actually

1045
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: just did it.

1046
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: Did That's awesome, that's awesome.

1047
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 2: How to go?

1048
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 6: It was great? I had Ian call me.

1049
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, we gotta play that on the air. You gotta

1050
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 4: play it on the air. You gotta call you on

1051
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,879
Speaker 4: the air. Let it ring, let it pick up?

1052
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: Would you? Would you know what I was referring to

1053
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 2: if I then called Ian mister telephone man.

1054
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 6: Of course I love that song.

1055
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 2: Okay, it's something.

1056
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 6: Wrong with his line.

1057
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: Okay, number, okay, all right, right, all right, every time? Yes, yes, yes,

1058
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:57,800
Speaker 2: So you gotta know that's.

1059
00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 6: Not just some music. I'm good with that.

1060
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: Good. That's not just a correct answer. It makes us

1061
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: old dudes feel good.

1062
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:05,479
Speaker 2: It makes them feel young.

1063
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, our stuff is still alive out there

1064
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 1: in this earth.

1065
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: It is. We lived in the greatest era of music.

1066
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 2: So it's pretty good. Yeah, it's pretty good. But then again, everybody.

1067
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:18,480
Speaker 3: Thinks that, right, Yeah, but it's the truth. Though.

1068
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 1: Well, I will say this, having three chitling's running around

1069
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:24,720
Speaker 1: the house.

1070
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 2: They do know all of our music.

1071
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, way more than we knew our parents' music.

1072
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, because we our parents' music doesn't it didn't resonate

1073
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: with us. You gotta remember they grew up in hip

1074
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 4: hop yep. Right, so in for instance, in ninety three,

1075
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 4: right high school ninety three senior year.

1076
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: I'm listening to.

1077
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: You know, I mean just yeah, because because you said

1078
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 1: ninety three, my mind immediately went to Pete Roy.

1079
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,479
Speaker 2: I can see L's moved right.

1080
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 4: I'm listening to this were from Yeah, you know what

1081
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 4: I mean? Like that's just that is relevant right now?

1082
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 4: Like that's relevant hip hop. Hell, it is because those

1083
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 4: guys are still making music now. Prior to that, it

1084
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:21,280
Speaker 4: was jazz. It was blues that didn't speak to disco,

1085
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 4: that didn't speak to our generation. The hip hop came

1086
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 4: into late mid to late seventies, and so we were

1087
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 4: alive and we grew up on our parents weren't listening

1088
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 4: to hip hop. It was the young My brother was

1089
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 4: listening to hip hop. He was twelve years older than me.

1090
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 4: He was a DJ. So I got exposed to all

1091
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 4: of the hip hop and the sampling and all of that,

1092
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 4: and so I just became a hip hop hit. I

1093
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:51,400
Speaker 4: fell in love with it. That's why we're still relevant.

1094
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 4: That's why we don't seem old, because we're playing the songs,

1095
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 4: we're dancing.

1096
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: We know the music.

1097
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 4: We you know, we we can recognize Genius and Kendrick right,

1098
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 4: we can un a J. Cole and some of the

1099
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 4: artists that are out today, we can recognize that opposed

1100
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 4: to our parents going, what are y'all listening to that

1101
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 4: bibbity bop? Y'all out there listening to that jumble of

1102
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,839
Speaker 4: jump jump, the hippity bopp the bop bop?

1103
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: Right, But that's.

1104
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 2: That's pretty much what it was. Yeah, the the wop bamboo.

1105
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 4: But that's the difference. That's why we we seem cooler.

1106
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 4: That's why because it was, it's relevant for us. We

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00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 4: know what hip hop is because we grew up on

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00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 4: hip hop.

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Speaker 1: What's the first concert that they took you to? My parents?

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00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 3: Remember my parents you took me?

1111
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 2: All right, what's the what's the first concert you took yourself?

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00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 4: I can tell you the first concert I wanted to

1113
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 4: go to. Now, all my l A true l A

1114
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 4: you know hip hop heads will understand what this is.

1115
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 4: It's called Uncle Jam's Army and it was done out here.

1116
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:00,720
Speaker 4: My brother was a DJ, so he would be sneaking

1117
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 4: out the house to go to that, and I desperately,

1118
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:05,240
Speaker 4: at the ripe.

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00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 3: Old age of five six five, I wanted to go

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Speaker 3: with him.

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Speaker 4: Uncle Jam's Army, right like so, case in point and

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00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 4: in the movie straight out of Compton. That was what

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Speaker 4: they went to an Uncle Jam's army, Like when they

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00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 4: were first getting to Doctor Dre and n W and

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00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 4: all that it was getting together, they went to Uncle

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 4: Jim's army, like that's what it was. They had a

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00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 4: lot of stuff at World on wheels, the skating rink,

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Speaker 4: all of that, Like, so that was my youth, that's

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Speaker 4: my life. Now. I love hip hop now so we

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00:57:50,120 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 4: can relate to the younger generation because hip hop is prevalent.

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00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 4: Hip hop is a cultural phenomenon all over the globe

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00:57:58,640 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 4: more so than any other music.

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Speaker 1: I do see it in even more than just hip

1134
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: hop though. I mean that the kids they know everything.

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00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, our style, all of that, all of the best

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00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:17,520
Speaker 4: shoes of retro George. I mean, they're they're literally building

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Speaker 4: their identities on our lives, our culture. But that's a

1138
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 4: that's a it's not a bad thing, right that that

1139
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: they're paying uh homage to a great time for us,

1140
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 4: a great time and in this country where hip hop

1141
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 4: was embraced in the clothes, the shoes, like, all of

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00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:43,440
Speaker 4: that is part of the culture which was built it

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00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 4: and brought on by hip.

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00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: Hop, and Snoop has helped also, of course, because that

1145
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: guy if you been around you, like the Brothers, remember

1146
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: no way in the nineties that you would have predicted

1147
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 1: that that guy who at first for a second just

1148
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: look like Doctor Dre's little buddy. That's how he kind

1149
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: of came on the scenes, like, oh it is Doctor

1150
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Dre's little.

1151
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 2: Partner over there.

1152
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 3: That damn album dropped though, that changed, that changed, right.

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00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: And then now he's into everything.

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00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: Martha Stewart, I mean what he is the best marketer

1155
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life.

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00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: Well, that's what.

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00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,920
Speaker 4: But you got to understand the hip hop culture back

1158
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 4: then was that of independence, so you had to be

1159
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 4: able to market your music, sell your own music. The

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00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 4: Great Bay Pioneers, you know, two short e forty they

1161
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 4: were selling music literally out the trunk of their cars,

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Speaker 4: to the tune of two hundred and fifty three hundred

1163
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 4: tapes and CDs sold. That's all money to you. That's

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00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 4: like going double platinum on the street because you get

1165
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 4: a cut of all of the money. Right, that's the

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Speaker 4: that's that's where that hustleman, Telly. You look at E

1167
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 4: forty up from from Valleoh, he's a chef, he got cookbooks,

1168
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 4: he got wys Go.

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01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 1: He's a big deal up here Forrewar with the spoon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's it. He's at everything, man.

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Speaker 4: But that's how we were that's we were raised on that.

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 4: That's you know, that's forty them, that's that's that's a

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Speaker 4: real thing, you know what I mean. So that's what

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Speaker 4: hip hop is. That's why we don't seem like we're

1175
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: listening to jazz in the car and no, because we

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01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,680
Speaker 4: know what hip hop is. We know what cool is,

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Speaker 4: y'all wearing the shoes that we wore.

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Speaker 1: We also know first and foremost to tell you that

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01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,720
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1180
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1181
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1182
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1183
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Speaker 1: newest features in the app is that you can select

1184
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1185
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Speaker 1: always pop up on the top of your screen.

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Speaker 2: And then the other thing that we have on our

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Speaker 2: show is.

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Speaker 11: Steve Dizzy D and Hey, Steve Jazzy jes jesse d

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01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 11: Go ahead, Steve, Hello, there we're talking old school last hour.

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Speaker 10: Can I tell you I found a clip of the

1193
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 10: chick hern.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is of course you did, Of

1195
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 3: course you did.

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Speaker 10: We will get to it after the details of the

1197
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 10: basketball baseball here because we are at halftime in Indiana

1198
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Speaker 10: and the Pacers trying to go up three games to

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Speaker 10: none in the Eastern Conference Finals. Leading the next fifty

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Speaker 10: eight to forty five. New York shot thirty eight percent

1201
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 10: from the floor in the first aft. Jalen Brunson had

1202
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 10: eleven points, but on two of nine shooting from the

1203
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 10: field and four fouls, and he was a minus.

1204
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: Fifteen on the court.

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01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 10: They're about ready to start the third quarter. Game four

1206
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 10: will be at Indiana on Tuesday. Oklahoma City leads the

1207
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 10: West Finals two games to one. Game four at Minnesota

1208
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,480
Speaker 10: is on Monday night. The NBA Finals begin June fifth.

1209
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 10: There were four WNBA games home wins for La and Seattle.

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01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 10: Phoenix won its game sixty eight sixty two over Washington

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Speaker 10: and Connecticut's zero to four after losing seventy nine to

1212
01:02:21,480 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 10: fifty five against Atlanta to the NHL. Edmonton leads the

1213
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 10: West Final two games to one. After beating Dallas today

1214
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 10: six to one. USA Hockey took the World championship in overtime,

1215
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,680
Speaker 10: beating Switzerland won nothing in the final. Alex Polow won

1216
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 10: the Indy five hundred, the first driver from Spain to

1217
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Speaker 10: do so. Fox has all the IndyCar races this year.

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01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 10: Polow has won five of the six races so far

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Speaker 10: this season. He took the lead today with about fifteen

1220
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Speaker 10: laps to go, passing Marcus Earrison. In Charlotte. Tonight, NASCAR

1221
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Speaker 10: six hundred is going on. They're at about lap two

1222
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Speaker 10: sixty of the four hundred scheduled. William Byron in the lead.

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Speaker 10: Denny Hamlin is second. UCLA softball advance to the College

1224
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Speaker 10: World Series. It'll open Thursday against Oregon. Ole Miss will

1225
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 10: open against Texas Tech. In Major League Baseball, the New

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Speaker 10: York Mets at home, still leading the Dodgers three to one.

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Speaker 10: In the bottom of the eighth, two run homer in

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Speaker 10: the first from Pete Alonzo after LA's Shohey Otani had

1229
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 10: let off the game with a long ball for Otani

1230
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 10: his eighteenth home run of the season, which is tied

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01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 10: for the major league lead and more important to LA fans.

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01:03:25,880 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 10: Otani actually pitched some batting practice before the game, facing

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Speaker 10: live hitters for the first time in nearly two years.

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Speaker 10: It's looking like he will be back on the mound

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Speaker 10: in July. Blake Snell, currently injured, could be back in July.

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Speaker 10: Of course, Roki Sasaki is still out as far as

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Speaker 10: starters too. The Yankees won at Colorado five to four.

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01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 10: More on the Rockies in an hour, but suffice to

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01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 10: say they're still awful. Nine to forty four is the

1240
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 10: Colorado record this year. Today's five to four over Philadelphia

1241
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,680
Speaker 10: in a surprise. Miami shut out the Angels three nothing.

1242
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 10: San Diego is a five to three winner at Atlanta,

1243
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 10: and San Francisco won three to two at Washington. Now,

1244
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 10: back in the old days, and I mean the Laker

1245
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:11,560
Speaker 10: voice for decades was Chick hern And there was a

1246
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 10: point where, and we're talking over twenty five years ago,

1247
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 10: when people had what you were talking about, last hour

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Speaker 10: phone answering machines hooked up to your home telephone. We

1249
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,200
Speaker 10: did an interview at my very first job I ever

1250
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 10: worked at, with the guy who marketed this telephone answering

1251
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,919
Speaker 10: tape that had five or six selections of Chick Hern,

1252
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 10: the actual Laker announcers voice could be on your phone saying, Hey,

1253
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 10: your friend isn't here to leave a message. This is

1254
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Speaker 10: an example of one of them.

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Speaker 12: Hi, chick, Hern here, I hope you don't mind my

1256
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Speaker 12: substituting for your friend who can't get to the phone

1257
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Speaker 12: right now. You know, some people don't like telephone answering machines,

1258
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 12: but there's nothing ticky tacky about them. Some people don't

1259
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 12: like referees either, but it's no game without them. Good

1260
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:56,000
Speaker 12: calls or bad, and it's no call at all if

1261
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Speaker 12: you don't leave your name and number when you hear

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Speaker 12: the beep, I better get off before I get a

1263
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Speaker 12: three second violation.

1264
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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Goodness, please please forward that to me. That's incredible, Oh

1266
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Speaker 2: my god. And he's right. People don't like referees.

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Speaker 3: I've learned that too.

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Speaker 2: Yep, they take your techie.

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Speaker 3: Brilliant so good, so good.

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Speaker 1: I love it when the I love it when the

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Speaker 1: conversation goes a different way and certainly is done not tonight,

1272
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Speaker 1: so great stuff. Steve Live Fox Sports Radio Studios for

1273
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: the best pregame show every weekend. Be sure to tune

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Speaker 1: into Fox Sports Radios Countdown presented by bet MGM every

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Speaker 1: Saturday and Sunday morning from nine am to noon in.

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Speaker 2: The East, six to nine in the West.

1277
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:44,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna count it down to all the biggest games,

1278
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: and there's no better place to prime you for everything

1279
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: that's coming up each and every weekend. So tune into

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1281
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: right here on Fox Sports Radio and in the iHeart

1282
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Speaker 1: Radio app. Okay, flag football in the Olympics. Come on, man,

1283
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: come on, what are we doing? Why could I just

1284
01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:15,160
Speaker 1: start with that?

1285
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 3: I will tell you why?

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01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 1: Why?

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01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 4: Because flag football is something that everyone can can play. Now,

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01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,080
Speaker 4: I'll say this, and it's happening as we speak now.

1290
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,720
Speaker 4: Flag football is becoming a varsity sport, oh for sure.

1291
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 4: And so I think it opens the door and the

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Speaker 4: window up for everyone to participate in this, including other countries.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Other countries aren't as refined as we are with the equipment,

1295
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 4: the rules of the game, things of that sort. But

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Speaker 4: everybody can play flag football. You don't need much, right,

1297
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Speaker 4: you just need the desire to want to to play.

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Speaker 4: And I think it's brillian. I think is great. I

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Speaker 4: think like there are several high schools that have girls

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01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 4: varsity flag football, and those young ladies are dynamic. So

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Speaker 4: what do you do after you finish playing in high school?

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Speaker 3: Where do you go?

1303
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Speaker 4: We saw a lot of this with softball as well,

1304
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 4: right remember they introduced softball into the Olympics and subsequently

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Speaker 4: took it away, took it back away. The US was

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01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,680
Speaker 4: of course, was dominant US in Japan where they were

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Speaker 4: dominant and softball, but it gave those dynamic college players

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01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:44,480
Speaker 4: and high school oh players a place to strive for

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Speaker 4: to go be on it. Soccer as well, there was

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Speaker 4: no women's soccer league. This is the beginning of ushering

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Speaker 4: in other leagues. So in four or five, six, seven

1312
01:07:55,560 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 4: years now there is a viable place to you can

1313
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 4: go play professional sports outside of the you know, the

1314
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 4: scope of the NFL. Everybody can't play in the NFL

1315
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 4: and women can't play there. That may change at some point,

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01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:16,400
Speaker 4: but as of right now, I think it's dynamic. I

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Speaker 4: think there's a lot of young ladies out there who

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Speaker 4: love football, who want to play football. They've tried to

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Speaker 4: create all these I remember the Lingerie Football League and

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01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 4: all of this you know stuff, but flag football, you know,

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01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 4: seven on seven is a real thing. There're seven on

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Speaker 4: seven leagues to travel around. Guys get rated, These young

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01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:39,599
Speaker 4: high school kids get rated at these seven on seven tournaments.

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Speaker 4: They're no tackling, there's no offensive line, there's no any

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Speaker 4: of that. And I think it's a big part of

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Speaker 4: the sport and I think it should be highlighted.

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Speaker 1: Let me rephrase my question, because I agree with everything

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01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 1: you just said. Why are we going to allow NFL players.

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Speaker 2: Part of this?

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Speaker 3: Tell you why why?

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01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 4: Because we ran into that bus saw in basketball not

1332
01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,320
Speaker 4: allowing our best of the best to go play great,

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01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 4: and then someone stepped.

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Speaker 3: On our throats.

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Speaker 2: So then you just answered the question, which is ego, oh, of.

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 4: Course, it's an Olympics, right, the Olympics. That hell, hello,

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:18,919
Speaker 4: Well we're the best in the world.

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01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 2: Right right.

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01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: However, and I might be in the minority on this fact.

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01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,280
Speaker 1: I know that I was. When I did a whole

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01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 1: show on this months ago, prior to Steph Curry being

1342
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 1: a part of Team USA last summer, I was like,

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01:09:36,520 --> 01:09:41,960
Speaker 1: no thanks, no thanks. I'm a big NBA fan. You're

1344
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: a big NBA fan. What would you rather have? A

1345
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 1: Lakers championship or a gold medal?

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 3: A Laker champion, thank you.

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01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: So I don't get a vote here, but I don't

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01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:55,680
Speaker 1: want my favorite players playing in the Olympics, even if

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01:09:55,800 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 1: the possibility of injury is minuscule, and in football it's

1350
01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:06,400
Speaker 1: not even flagg right, even flag now, so we can

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01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:10,840
Speaker 1: do this is yay America and yay flag football for

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: all the reasons you just said.

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01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,839
Speaker 2: But when Saquon Barkley comes up, lame Now how we feeling?

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01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 4: So I can tell you the beginning in the end

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01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 4: of uh NFL players in the Olympics. Yes, all it

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:34,000
Speaker 4: takes is one a cl one Achilles and it goes

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:37,600
Speaker 4: away forever. One Robert Edwards, Yep, I was there. I was,

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Speaker 4: Were you there? Yeah, that's my draft class.

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Speaker 1: I bet Mary doesn't know that reference, No Mary, Robert Edwards.

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Speaker 6: No, yeah, yeah, Anthony Edwards that or something.

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Speaker 3: I was thinking.

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Speaker 1: Robert Edwards was a running back for the Patriots and

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01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: Dolphins and Patriots.

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01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was a young up and coming.

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01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:56,760
Speaker 3: It was all rookie, all rookie team to do.

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01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 2: He was going to be a star.

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Speaker 3: What year eight?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, ninety eight, guys, I wasn't even thought of.

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01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 2: Come on, but you knew he walks. She didn't know,

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01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 2: well you knew what they said anyway.

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01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: Point is you weren't born for new edition either, but

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01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:15,120
Speaker 1: you could sing, mister telephone man, it's all good.

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01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 2: Bottom line is this player they were what you tell

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Speaker 2: what it was.

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01:11:21,000 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 4: It was a Hawaii yes, and they had these fun

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01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,439
Speaker 4: games that we can do, and they were you know,

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Speaker 4: they were playing on the beach on the beach. Yes,

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01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 4: So we're playing football on the beach. And he tore

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01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,240
Speaker 4: his leg up, man, and that was it was over.

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01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,679
Speaker 4: He never really played again never. So that's all I'm saying.

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01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 3: And I know eradicated that whole part of that was gone.

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Speaker 1: Yep. And so I know it sounds like Captain Fuddy Duddy,

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01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 1: But my goodness, if if my favorite running back heads

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01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: off to play flag in the Olympics, I am no,

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01:11:57,320 --> 01:11:59,840
Speaker 1: thank you, no, thank you.

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01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:04,600
Speaker 4: Well, I know Tarrek Hills want some. I mean just

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01:12:04,720 --> 01:12:07,240
Speaker 4: think about it. Just this in the quarterback right, like,

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01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 4: who's the quarterback?

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Speaker 5: Is it?

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01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes?

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Speaker 4: Is it.

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01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 3: You know, Josh Allen?

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01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 5: Is it?

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01:12:14,479 --> 01:12:16,280
Speaker 3: Like the world is in trouble.

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01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: Well, I know exactly who it is. I know exactly

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01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: who it is, and I will tell you coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Mark Willardy from Slum this is Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say that better be the edited version.

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01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:38,000
Speaker 2: Of course it is heart skipping Beefer set. You're like, okay, okay, okay.

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01:12:38,240 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 4: I had to check myself because I was just about

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 4: to jump right on into it, like I'm driving in

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 4: the car.

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01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:43,280
Speaker 9: Right.

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01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,920
Speaker 1: You better do the edited version too, right. Oh man,

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01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: Now you're.

1406
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 3: Trying to set me up right there. That was the

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01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 3: set up right there. Promise I see what's happening.

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01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,000
Speaker 1: She'll do what she did off the top of the show.

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01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:58,360
Speaker 1: Just turn you off. It's okay, it's all good. We're

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01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:02,200
Speaker 1: in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Mark Willardy from Salam

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01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:04,720
Speaker 1: coming up at the top of the hour. Something we

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01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,719
Speaker 1: want to address about the departure the end of the road.

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01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: Shout out boys to men of ESPN's around the horn.

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01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: More on that coming up around the bend.

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01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:18,680
Speaker 2: But I can tell you who the quarterback will be

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01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:24,719
Speaker 2: for Team USA's flag football team. That's easy. That's Dak Prescott.

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01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,880
Speaker 2: What he isn't one who makes the most money, so

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01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,879
Speaker 2: he must he must be the best quarterback in America.

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01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 4: Right.

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01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,040
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't work like that.

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01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I know it doesn't. So like it's been fun.

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01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:43,240
Speaker 1: The debate raged on here in the Bay Area and

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01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: well beyond for the better part of the last year

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01:13:47,400 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 1: and a half. And the final answer came in nine

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01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 1: days ago. You and I did not get a chance

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: to talk about it last week and we were off,

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01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 1: But the final answer came in, and Brock Purdy is

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01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:07,840
Speaker 1: going to be the seventh highest paid quarterback in the NFL. Yes,

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01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: there's all.

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01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,799
Speaker 2: Sorts of intricacies, the guarantees, the YadA YadA whatever.

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01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 3: Perfect, The average.

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01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: Deal is fifty three million per year in New Years.

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01:14:19,720 --> 01:14:21,599
Speaker 2: When you add in what he's going to make this year,

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01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 2: it's more down around forty five forty six. But I'm

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01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: with you, perfect, And additionally, I was really excited to

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01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: see the way Purty handled it because apparently reports are

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01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: they walked in and started their ask at sixty five million,

1438
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 2: which is absurd, But why not ask?

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01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:46,720
Speaker 1: I do think he's better than Dak Prescott, So if

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01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 1: Dak's going to make sixty why wouldn't you ask? But Okay,

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01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: it ends up at fifty three. And rather than doing

1442
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 1: what forty nine er players have been doing for the

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: last few summers and cratering the entire offseason with major

1444
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:06,240
Speaker 1: negotiations and holdouts, and the forty nine ers did themselves

1445
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 1: no favors either with the way they handled it. Brock

1446
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 1: instead took yet another step in his leadership. I thought

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01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:17,639
Speaker 1: and and took this deal, which feels very.

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01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 4: Very fair to me. I agree with that. You know,

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01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 4: the guarantee money is what one one. Yeah that, yes, absolutely,

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 4: And now you can now continue to put pieces or

1451
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 4: keep pieces around him. Look, he was severely underpaid for

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01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:40,840
Speaker 4: what he's done. Now, all the arguments of people like

1453
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 4: you can't pay him, he's not worth it, that those

1454
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 4: are obscene arguments. Obscene arguments because you keep paying Dak

1455
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:52,120
Speaker 4: Prescott with nothing to show for it, nothing to any

1456
01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 4: other quarterback. The fact that Brock Purdy was the last

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01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 4: pick in the draft is the only reason people had

1458
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 4: a problem with him. I said it before, I said it.

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01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 4: During his time his rise playing, we were every night

1460
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,840
Speaker 4: his rookie year he got a chance to play. We

1461
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 4: were there talking about what he was doing and what

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01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 4: he was accomplishing all the way to the NFC Championship game,

1463
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 4: where unfortunately he got injured.

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01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,559
Speaker 3: I'm still a firm believer.

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01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 4: I think they would have beat Philadelphia in that game

1466
01:16:21,479 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 4: and he would have went to his first Super Bowl

1467
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 4: as a rookie, followed it up the next year with

1468
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. So you know, when you look at it, if,

1469
01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:34,679
Speaker 4: like I said before, if he was a first round

1470
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:39,280
Speaker 4: draft pick, if Brock Purty, and I'll even take it

1471
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:43,639
Speaker 4: a step further, if Brock Purdy was the first pick

1472
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:48,480
Speaker 4: in the draft that year and he accomplished what he accomplished,

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01:16:50,160 --> 01:16:53,080
Speaker 4: we would be heaping praise on him. It might have

1474
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 4: gotten seventy million, We would be heaping praise on him.

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01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:01,120
Speaker 4: You literally, he's everything you want in the first round

1476
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: draft pick. He is the face of the front, the

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 4: whole nine yards. But because they're waiting for the other

1478
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 4: shoe to drive, Oh, it's the coaches. I'll tell you what,

1479
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 4: if you have any first round draft pick quarterback who's successful,

1480
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 4: it has to do with the coach and the roster.

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01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:22,000
Speaker 3: Of course it has to do with It has to

1482
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 3: do with the coach and the roster.

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 2: Of course it does.

1484
01:17:24,439 --> 01:17:28,720
Speaker 4: So this notion of oh, well it's Shanahan. Uh no,

1485
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 4: it's not Shanahan. It's Shanahan, as well as his ability

1486
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:38,599
Speaker 4: to I mean, what happened to Trey Lance Shanahan?

1487
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: Was it with Trey Lance right right, And why didn't

1488
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:46,759
Speaker 1: anybody blink when Trevor Lawrence got more than Rock Purty.

1489
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,440
Speaker 4: We still wait on Trevor Lawrence to preat dividends.

1490
01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:54,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not right, not sure exactly what Jacksonville has there,

1491
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: and I'm not putting that all on Trevor Lawrence's feet,

1492
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:00,760
Speaker 1: but I think you're you're over A point is that

1493
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:02,879
Speaker 1: your surroundings always matter.

1494
01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:04,960
Speaker 4: Always, no matter who you are. I don't care when

1495
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 4: you were drafted or what, it always matters. And to

1496
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:12,640
Speaker 4: penalize somebody because they're well coached and they have a

1497
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 4: good roster, it seemed ridiculous to me.

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01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep. Absolutely, he left ego at the door.

1499
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:20,920
Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: He left ego at the door, which you don't you

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01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 1: don't see everybody do, because he easily could have been

1502
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: I'm not taking less than Trevor Lawrence and TUA.

1503
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 2: Why would I do that.

1504
01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 4: He wants to win and that's what you want out

1505
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:34,200
Speaker 4: of your quarterback. Ax Tom Brady, Yep, no question about it.

1506
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 4: Did his entire career all right? Much more on Matt.

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01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,960
Speaker 4: We'll get to the around the horn situation as we

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01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 4: continue Sports Radio Okay, down the stretch we come with

1509
01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 4: Knicks Pacers. They're starting the fourth quarter pacers up ten.

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Speaker 1: Down the stretch we come as well, broadcasting live from

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,960
Speaker 1: the Fox Sports Radio studios. And still a lot to

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01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:02,280
Speaker 1: get to a day where we have tried to spend

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01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: as much time as possible with old blending with young

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01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:10,040
Speaker 1: the best that we possibly can. And I feel that

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01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,200
Speaker 1: a little bit with this thing that I want to

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01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: get into next. First of all, whenever it's something is

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01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:18,720
Speaker 1: successful in our business, I like that it doesn't matter

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01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,879
Speaker 1: if I worked for it or not. It's a wonderful

1519
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:26,559
Speaker 1: thing in our business when something is successful, because our business,

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01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: like so many others, it kind of feels, especially in

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01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: the last five years, like it's almost under attack. So

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01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: I want to salute everybody who was ever involved in

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01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 1: ESPN's Around the Horn.

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01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 2: This became.

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01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:46,639
Speaker 1: A staple in our industry. But it's an interesting one,

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01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: and I have to admit there's a little bit of

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01:19:50,720 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 1: feelings caught up in this one, especially when Tim cawlishaw

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01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,200
Speaker 1: who I don't know and I think does a really

1529
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: nice job, apparently made a comment about how ESPN is

1530
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 1: shifting away from hiring those who are considered media people

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: and instead hiring well e from people like yourself former athletes.

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Speaker 2: Now I have no comment on that. That's great.

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01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:27,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got an athlete who has lived

1534
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 1: this and can do a wonderful job of storytelling more

1535
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: so than someone who hasn't lived it, well I would

1536
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:38,040
Speaker 1: pick that too. But here's where this one gets me.

1537
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 1: And you may not have even known that this was

1538
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: a dynamic when I started in this business and.

1539
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 2: For a number of years after that, newspaper writers just

1540
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:59,880
Speaker 2: newspaper writers. They were the one seed in the press box,

1541
01:21:00,040 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 2: if you will. They were the intelligent ones. They were

1542
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 2: the ones who had the real story. They were the

1543
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 2: ones who had an air about them.

1544
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:21,600
Speaker 1: And if you were in the broadcast profession, you were shoetcum,

1545
01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: you were shostkum.

1546
01:21:27,439 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: If I could tell you, and.

1547
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,080
Speaker 1: This is as a pop just trying to find my

1548
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 1: way out there, if I could tell you how many

1549
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: times a newspaper person made me feel small, if I

1550
01:21:41,400 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: had a dollar for each one of those times, I

1551
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:47,760
Speaker 1: could tell you stories of when my radio network would

1552
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: send me to cover a major event, and in fact,

1553
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,200
Speaker 1: one of the times was.

1554
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:58,800
Speaker 2: We went to the Big Apple for basketball.

1555
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 1: It wasn't the Knicks, It wasn't the next it was

1556
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: the New Jersey Nets Jason Kidds Nets hosting the Los

1557
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 1: Angeles Lakers in what was an unbelievably quick sweep. But

1558
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,560
Speaker 1: do you want to know where the seats were that

1559
01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: the electronic media received for the NBA Finals. Yes, I

1560
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 1: still have pieces of the roof of the building in

1561
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 1: my hair from where they put me. And that's the

1562
01:22:29,120 --> 01:22:32,360
Speaker 1: way it worked back then. You had to deal with

1563
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: that if you were electronic media. Oh you were just

1564
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: these loud mouth, non intelligent, not knowing the real story

1565
01:22:43,439 --> 01:22:49,760
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, pitilance of a problem in the media world.

1566
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:55,000
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, then the world started

1567
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:58,799
Speaker 1: to change, and attention spans got shorter, and digital media

1568
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 1: started to flow, and all of the sudden, here was

1569
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:07,120
Speaker 1: poof around the horn. And it was a daily reminder

1570
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:10,800
Speaker 1: for those in the electronic media that it was four boxes,

1571
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,759
Speaker 1: and in each box was someone who thumbed their nose

1572
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: at the electronic media for years who was now a

1573
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:24,759
Speaker 1: member of the electronic media. And it was really annoying.

1574
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: I got to admit that it was really annoying watching

1575
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: and these are I don't even know them, So it's

1576
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: not personal, but there were so many of them newspaper

1577
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: writers who had spent years just looking down on the

1578
01:23:41,320 --> 01:23:44,760
Speaker 1: electronic media, and all of a sudden they went, uh,

1579
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,799
Speaker 1: you know what, if I want to keep getting a paycheck,

1580
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,640
Speaker 1: get up, gets some makeup on.

1581
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 2: They gets some makeup on.

1582
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 1: And so for for me, just a little bit e

1583
01:23:56,680 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: that show will always kind of represent that there's a

1584
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 1: little bit of how you like us now, a.

1585
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 2: Little bit tucked into that show. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

1586
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,559
Speaker 1: So it's interesting that the newspaper people who are now

1587
01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:14,559
Speaker 1: losing their job, oh, they're hiring a bunch of ex

1588
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 1: athletes right right, the same way they used to hire

1589
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:20,960
Speaker 1: a bunch of ex newspaper writers.

1590
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:25,720
Speaker 2: So anyway, just something that kind of popped to my

1591
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 2: head this week.

1592
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,400
Speaker 3: So are you doing your are the Simpsons Land?

1593
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 4: No?

1594
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:37,200
Speaker 1: No, not at all. First of all, I would never

1595
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 1: do that to somebody who's kind of losing a job.

1596
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,680
Speaker 1: And second of all, this is not like all these

1597
01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: people got fired. Like the show is just going whatever.

1598
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: It's run its course, and it's an iconic show and

1599
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: it will be forever remembered. And I actually think a

1600
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,640
Speaker 1: bunch of the I know some of the people on there,

1601
01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,519
Speaker 1: and they've done a wonderful, wonderful job.

1602
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,519
Speaker 4: But nobody's watching because and I'll give you some probably

1603
01:24:56,680 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 4: a little bit of insight onto why this has changed.

1604
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 4: Because so many athletes now are their own verticals. They're

1605
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 4: going to tell you the story on their own platforms.

1606
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,400
Speaker 4: They're going to be able to be heard and seen.

1607
01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 4: And so companies are like, Okay, well don't do it there,

1608
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:15,840
Speaker 4: or you can do it there, but do it here

1609
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 4: as well. So bring those viewers to our show. Well,

1610
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 4: you know, we'll create a show around you and you

1611
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 4: can bring all of this stuff. It's the same thing

1612
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 4: they did with with the Pat McAfee show, right like

1613
01:25:29,439 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: that was a podcast, a raunchy in your face podcast

1614
01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 4: to turn into a what a radio show to turn

1615
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:38,760
Speaker 4: into a podcast which turned into a mega deal over

1616
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 4: at ESPN, you know, one of the only shows you

1617
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 4: can cuss on ESPN, which blew my mind. But that's

1618
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:50,080
Speaker 4: in the paperwork. We're not gonna change who we are.

1619
01:25:50,920 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 4: Our viewers want us a certain way, so we're gonna

1620
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 4: keep giving it to them a certain way. And because

1621
01:25:56,520 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 4: you bring that amount of viewers, then bosses are okay

1622
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 4: with it. It happens. That's how that's how things change,

1623
01:26:03,400 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 4: no doubt. And so that's you know, I don't know

1624
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 4: how many people were still watching Around the Horn. I

1625
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 4: was a fan of Around the Horn. I thought it

1626
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 4: was good insight. But yeah, people want to hear from athletes,

1627
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,800
Speaker 4: you know, not solely, but you know Draymond Green who's

1628
01:26:19,840 --> 01:26:26,320
Speaker 4: currently playing, you know, Michael Parsons, like all these guys

1629
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:30,840
Speaker 4: who are now taking control of their voice and their abilities,

1630
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,679
Speaker 4: uh to speak directly to fans. Yeah, if you either

1631
01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:40,360
Speaker 4: get on or get off. In terms of networks, that's

1632
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 4: what that's what's happening. Everything is is sports based in

1633
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 4: terms of viewerships, and being able to capture an audience

1634
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 4: like that is big business right now. The mandate for

1635
01:26:53,360 --> 01:26:55,439
Speaker 4: sports based programming.

1636
01:26:56,640 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 3: Is huge.

1637
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 4: And that goes for talk, that goes for scripted unscripted

1638
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 4: for sure. And so you might as well be in

1639
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:11,720
Speaker 4: the athlete business if you can find great athletes who

1640
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 4: who really take this serious and and and want to like,

1641
01:27:15,800 --> 01:27:18,680
Speaker 4: I've been doing this for twenty five years. Literally, I've

1642
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:23,920
Speaker 4: been in this space for twenty five years. I started

1643
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 4: at a time where there was nowhere for an offensive

1644
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 4: lineman to be heard seen anything like this is this

1645
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 4: is real life. And I'm not tooting my own horn.

1646
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:35,720
Speaker 4: I'm letting you know.

1647
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 1: I I was.

1648
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 4: I had to pave a way that didn't exist, and

1649
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,760
Speaker 4: so I enjoy it.

1650
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:45,320
Speaker 3: I love it.

1651
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 4: That's why I still do it. I didn't have to

1652
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:51,640
Speaker 4: do it. I enjoyed doing it. I knew when I

1653
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 4: was done playing, I was going to really jump into

1654
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 4: it full full time, and it's been a blessing. It's

1655
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 4: it's been really great for myself, my family to be

1656
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,559
Speaker 4: able to work consistently that long, even when the world

1657
01:28:04,640 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 4: turned off the pandemic, I didn't miss a day all

1658
01:28:07,720 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 4: of those things. The writers strike, well, you know my

1659
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 4: other profession. I'm a writer, but I was showing up here,

1660
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 4: uh every week because I number one, I'm a fan

1661
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 4: of sport. I love it all sports, and I like

1662
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 4: I like to talk.

1663
01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:26,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, yeah.

1664
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:28,760
Speaker 1: Do you get a piece of the proceeds for that

1665
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: that that Kelsey podcast that those brothers do? No, no, no,

1666
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: that's too bad. Yeah, I mean the offensive linemen are uh,

1667
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: people are like oh waity yeah, I mean I'm thinking

1668
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:46,680
Speaker 1: my mind's bouncing around Andrew Whitworth and Jason Kelsey.

1669
01:28:46,880 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 4: When I tell you there were I had a show,

1670
01:28:50,640 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 4: a TV and a radio show in Denver when offensive

1671
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 4: linemen weren't even talking to the media.

1672
01:28:58,160 --> 01:29:00,960
Speaker 1: Schlareth boy speaking of Denver Sis.

1673
01:29:00,680 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 3: Right, yep, I was the only one with the show.

1674
01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 4: And so because when I when I got to Denver,

1675
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 4: I already had you know, I had been doing the

1676
01:29:11,680 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 4: show in Atlanta and I was like, no, I'm gonna

1677
01:29:13,640 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 4: keep it going. And they were like, well, you're gonna

1678
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,840
Speaker 4: get fined. And I was like, well, I guess I'm

1679
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:21,160
Speaker 4: getting fined, you know, And you know, I just kept

1680
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 4: it going. But that's that's where I was coming from, right,

1681
01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 4: how important it was for me.

1682
01:29:27,479 --> 01:29:31,639
Speaker 1: Well, and and I've always found and I'm not saying

1683
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:33,760
Speaker 1: this because I am talking to you right now, I've

1684
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 1: I find it to absolutely be true as somebody who

1685
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, did a show in San Diego for years

1686
01:29:41,800 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: with our our comrade Schornberger. Yeah, and uh and at

1687
01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 1: that time Nick Hardwick was doing a show on our

1688
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:53,400
Speaker 1: station as well. And then there's you and you and

1689
01:29:53,479 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: I have had a number of runs here together at

1690
01:29:56,240 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and others. I kind of like, I

1691
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:05,679
Speaker 1: don't want to paint with a broad brush, but offensive Lineman. Yeah,

1692
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 1: like that that position lends itself to intelligence personality, right,

1693
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:22,080
Speaker 1: and and like obviously you guys have I mean NFL players,

1694
01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: so you have plenty of confidence, but like there's this

1695
01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:30,160
Speaker 1: sort of engaging, refreshing lack of ego with what's going on.

1696
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 2: I mean, think about what you do for a living.

1697
01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 1: It's just like protect other people and get no credit

1698
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: for it whatsoever. Zero even though you the group, the

1699
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 1: five of you, that's what makes an NFL team go

1700
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: period period.

1701
01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:47,879
Speaker 4: Mahomes.

1702
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 1: Yes, you have a good five there, you're good. You

1703
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 1: have a bad five there, you suck. I don't care

1704
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 1: what you've got going on with the rest of your team.

1705
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:58,559
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a bullpen in baseball. Nobody knows

1706
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: who those guys are. But if they're really good, you're good.

1707
01:31:02,520 --> 01:31:06,800
Speaker 1: You're good. If you have a bad bullpen, I mean people,

1708
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:08,920
Speaker 1: if you want to know, I know that they're reigning

1709
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:10,880
Speaker 1: champs now, but if you want to know why all

1710
01:31:10,920 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: those division championships for the Dodgers for a ten year

1711
01:31:13,840 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 1: period never won a World Series for so long, bullpen

1712
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: the best lineup, they had, the best starting rotation.

1713
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,479
Speaker 2: The bullpen was not very good. Same thing with an

1714
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:26,280
Speaker 2: offensive line.

1715
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:30,960
Speaker 1: So anyway, Yeah, I'm glad that you were part of

1716
01:31:31,000 --> 01:31:32,479
Speaker 1: the group that paved the way.

1717
01:31:33,000 --> 01:31:35,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just something I was passionate about him.

1718
01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:39,080
Speaker 4: Look, I was doing shows for like, it's twenty five

1719
01:31:39,120 --> 01:31:42,000
Speaker 4: dollars gift certificates to like Tommy Bahama, Swear to god.

1720
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:44,120
Speaker 2: I still am Wait a minute, that's not what you get.

1721
01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 4: No, but that was literally it was no money. I

1722
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 4: was told, hey, we want you to be on the show,

1723
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 4: but we can't pay you. Yeah, I listen, this is real.

1724
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 4: Remember a show called Best Damn Sports Show? Of course,

1725
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,519
Speaker 4: so I hosted the Best Damn Sports Show the last

1726
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:04,280
Speaker 4: six months. It was on the air from January to

1727
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 4: June for no money.

1728
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh god, for six months or.

1729
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:13,800
Speaker 3: Six months for no money. Now now I know they

1730
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:14,320
Speaker 3: were lying.

1731
01:32:16,360 --> 01:32:18,439
Speaker 1: Yeah they do that, right, they do that.

1732
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 4: But I was playing, I was in the NFL. I

1733
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,880
Speaker 4: was I was like, look, I knew what that would

1734
01:32:26,120 --> 01:32:30,599
Speaker 4: give to me. I knew the experience on a national

1735
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 4: stage like that, not just talking about football. I knew

1736
01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:37,960
Speaker 4: what that would be. And the funny thing is one

1737
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 4: of the like the PA's on that during that run,

1738
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,320
Speaker 4: ended up being an exec over at Fox Sports one

1739
01:32:46,439 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 4: when they launched and he was like, Yo, you know

1740
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 4: would be great for this show. I from Salamsa. I

1741
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,360
Speaker 4: called in, I interviewed and met with everybody, and that

1742
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:58,400
Speaker 4: got me the FS one gig. So I was always

1743
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 4: thinking beyond, Like it wasn't about the money then, it

1744
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:08,520
Speaker 4: was about the exposure and the platform that was nonexistent

1745
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 4: for someone who was in the quarterback, running back, defensive end.

1746
01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:16,640
Speaker 4: You know who wasn't who didn't wasn't flashy and all

1747
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: of that. I just came with a different energy and

1748
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:25,320
Speaker 4: so I'm I applaud athletes who come in and in

1749
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 4: very few it's very difficult for athletes to be able

1750
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 4: to talk all sports. Now, I've always prided myself I

1751
01:33:33,720 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 4: didn't take a job at ESPN when I was offered

1752
01:33:37,640 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 4: when I retired because I didn't want to just be

1753
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:42,840
Speaker 4: on NFL Live and then and then I didn't want

1754
01:33:42,840 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 4: to move to Bristol Pristolle, Connecticut for four days out

1755
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 4: of the four week. Those two things. But what it

1756
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 4: did was it didn't allow them to put me in

1757
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,200
Speaker 4: the box. And I took the Fox job because I

1758
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:55,880
Speaker 4: was like, hey, look man, I want to talk basketball.

1759
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,200
Speaker 4: And you remember that Gary Payton was on that show

1760
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 4: with me, Andy Roddick, Gabe Kapler, and Donovan McNab. So

1761
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,800
Speaker 4: we talked all sports all the time, went to the

1762
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,040
Speaker 4: you know, covered the NBA All Star Game with Gary.

1763
01:34:11,880 --> 01:34:16,000
Speaker 4: It was that type of energy and that let a

1764
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 4: lot of people know that I could talk about all sports.

1765
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 4: And so now in our show, like a lot of

1766
01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 4: guys take off after football season, their shows go away

1767
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 4: after after football season, and then they come back in

1768
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 4: the fall.

1769
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:34,840
Speaker 2: You notice that, of course you're still here.

1770
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, I probably myself and been a year

1771
01:34:39,479 --> 01:34:40,280
Speaker 4: round type of guy.

1772
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like Shapiro doesn't it doesn't call me. In

1773
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:48,880
Speaker 2: February he called me, I don't work with this summer.

1774
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 4: No, no, no, we're good.

1775
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,320
Speaker 2: No, No, But I'm like, actually, when the NBA starts,

1776
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:53,720
Speaker 2: this is what it really gets got.

1777
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:58,519
Speaker 4: That's when I really did going. Yeah, you know, March

1778
01:34:58,640 --> 01:34:59,720
Speaker 4: Madness and all of that.

1779
01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 3: I love it.

1780
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,360
Speaker 4: Like I'm like, yes, yep, you know football. Look, and

1781
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:06,280
Speaker 4: I've been blessed to be able to play at a

1782
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,240
Speaker 4: high level. I've been able to experience the game like

1783
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,240
Speaker 4: most people can't. So that's not a stretch for me

1784
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,160
Speaker 4: to break down a game or talk about the nuances

1785
01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:17,280
Speaker 4: of football and all of that. You know, I like

1786
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 4: to push myself. That's a comfort for me. I like

1787
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 4: to push myself outside to my comfort zone and really

1788
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 4: delve into other sports because I am a fan.

1789
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:30,639
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we should talk about basketball for a second.

1790
01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 3: Let's do it.

1791
01:35:31,479 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 2: The Knicks are ahead. There's a phrase. I didn't think.

1792
01:35:37,520 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 3: The game is on. I haven't even been paying attention

1793
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:39,600
Speaker 3: to that.

1794
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:44,639
Speaker 2: Nicks are ahead. Not very much, but wow, the Knicks

1795
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:45,839
Speaker 2: are ahead.

1796
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, that and uh and and much more. In fact,

1797
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,040
Speaker 1: based on who's left in the NBA. Some things that

1798
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 1: we would love to get to we will next. That

1799
01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: is it from Salama. My mark were that. This is

1800
01:35:56,360 --> 01:36:01,640
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. So we're live the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1801
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:06,280
Speaker 1: Shortly after the show, the podcast goes up. If you

1802
01:36:06,439 --> 01:36:09,120
Speaker 1: missed any of today's show, be sure to check it

1803
01:36:09,160 --> 01:36:13,080
Speaker 1: out on the podcast. And I hear you, Mary, I

1804
01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: hear you. Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get

1805
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:18,560
Speaker 1: your podcasts, and be sure to follow and review the

1806
01:36:18,640 --> 01:36:21,639
Speaker 1: podcast right at a five and then we feel good

1807
01:36:21,680 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 1: about ourselves again.

1808
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:25,639
Speaker 2: Just search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcast.

1809
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 2: Just see today's show posted right after we get off

1810
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 2: the air. I gotta tell you. You want to talk

1811
01:36:30,840 --> 01:36:31,320
Speaker 2: about like.

1812
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:38,560
Speaker 1: Man parents, good parents, and back what was like a

1813
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,599
Speaker 1: sweeter time in our world.

1814
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:42,240
Speaker 2: I don't know if you do this. Do you do

1815
01:36:42,360 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 2: this for your boys when.

1816
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:46,719
Speaker 1: One of them's got a birthday or a special gift coming,

1817
01:36:47,160 --> 01:36:48,640
Speaker 1: you get the other one something too?

1818
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 9: Do you do that?

1819
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 2: No?

1820
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:58,800
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, neither die. But a thousand years ago, and

1821
01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: this again feel very foreign. When you wanted to get

1822
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: tickets to an event, Mary, you didn't just go on

1823
01:37:09,160 --> 01:37:10,200
Speaker 1: the internet.

1824
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,600
Speaker 2: And buy them to the arena. No, you need to

1825
01:37:13,680 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 2: do that, but you did.

1826
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: You Also, if it was sold out, it's no problem.

1827
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: You're just like, I'll just go to stop up and

1828
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 1: just buy the tickets. Well, didn't work that way. Then

1829
01:37:24,360 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: you had to beat everybody else to the punch. And

1830
01:37:28,479 --> 01:37:30,799
Speaker 1: so there was a time when it was like, tickets

1831
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: are going to go on sale at x o'clock and

1832
01:37:34,160 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: people would pick up their phone, not a cell phone,

1833
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: the actual phone. So you're stuck in one spot in

1834
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:48,600
Speaker 1: your house and you are using the redial function, redial redial,

1835
01:37:49,160 --> 01:37:53,920
Speaker 1: you're calling ticket master. Busy signal, busy signal, busy signal.

1836
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: You probably don't even know what busy signal is busy

1837
01:37:56,240 --> 01:38:01,120
Speaker 1: signal and you're no, No, that means the numbers out

1838
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:07,680
Speaker 1: of service exactly. It's like a truck backing up.

1839
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 4: We got to have a business signal somewhere on the

1840
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 4: one on the board in there somewhere.

1841
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:13,559
Speaker 2: Because we busy.

1842
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:18,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, but anyway point is is my sweet mom

1843
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: once upon a time bought tickets for my sister to

1844
01:38:23,040 --> 01:38:25,960
Speaker 1: go see Madonna. And this is back when it was

1845
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,760
Speaker 1: like wo biggest act in the world.

1846
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 2: And so.

1847
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:33,639
Speaker 3: For your sisters, how old were your sister?

1848
01:38:34,280 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 1: My sister's three years older.

1849
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:38,920
Speaker 3: Than me, so they were like, how old were you?

1850
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 2: Oh?

1851
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:43,599
Speaker 1: God, teenagers like young teenagers.

1852
01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:46,639
Speaker 3: Failing parent failing parenting.

1853
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:49,000
Speaker 2: But I've gotten to the good part yet, Okay, sorry,

1854
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,559
Speaker 2: the good part is. The good part is my.

1855
01:38:51,640 --> 01:38:54,879
Speaker 1: Mom's like, well, if we're gonna get Jenny tickets to Madonna,

1856
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 1: we have got to get mark tickets to see New Edition.

1857
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:05,120
Speaker 1: And she got on the phone, redial, redial, redial for

1858
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 1: three hours.

1859
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:14,639
Speaker 2: Wow, and never got those tickets. Yeah, but she boys,

1860
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:15,080
Speaker 2: she was.

1861
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 4: A good thing because you have had to start explaining

1862
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:19,840
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. What to go to New Edition, No,

1863
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:21,919
Speaker 4: to go to uh Madonna?

1864
01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:24,639
Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna go to Madonna. My sister's going to Madonna.

1865
01:39:25,320 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 9: Oh she was.

1866
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 3: She was on the she got a new edition for you, right,

1867
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 3: she got my.

1868
01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 1: Sister Madonna tickets and was like, we got to get

1869
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:35,160
Speaker 1: Mark something too, so we can get it. That's such

1870
01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:38,120
Speaker 1: a beautiful house, right, We're gonna get him some mister

1871
01:39:38,240 --> 01:39:41,840
Speaker 1: telephone man tickets. And and then again she might be lying.

1872
01:39:41,960 --> 01:39:47,000
Speaker 1: She'd just be like, let's tell them we tried, because

1873
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,800
Speaker 1: I never went and saw new edition. Either I never

1874
01:39:49,880 --> 01:39:53,439
Speaker 1: saw him or didn't I. Yes, She's like, no, it

1875
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: was while you were at school. I was on hold

1876
01:39:55,479 --> 01:39:59,200
Speaker 1: for three hours, Okay, but yeah, no, I never I

1877
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:02,760
Speaker 1: never saw them. I never went and solid. In addition, yeah,

1878
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 1: so I know.

1879
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:08,479
Speaker 2: I know my sister saw Madonna though, but don't worry.

1880
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 3: I was not that experience.

1881
01:40:09,800 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

1882
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 4: It's kind of it was probably like like breath taking,

1883
01:40:14,240 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 4: like thirty after the hour when we get our own

1884
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:19,840
Speaker 4: breath taking.

1885
01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:20,320
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

1886
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:24,160
Speaker 3: Madonna, so to speak, he's like one name, basis Steve.

1887
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:27,640
Speaker 2: That's why we just say Steve. It's Steve, Steve, It's Steve.

1888
01:40:27,439 --> 01:40:31,200
Speaker 10: Everybody, and can you believe the Knicks are winning.

1889
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 3: This is crazy?

1890
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:32,519
Speaker 1: Then are winning?

1891
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 2: It's all Anthony Towns, like twice a year does this?

1892
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:38,240
Speaker 1: Well, just like the best player on the planet for

1893
01:40:38,400 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: like seven minutes and we're in the midst of one

1894
01:40:40,479 --> 01:40:41,559
Speaker 1: of the two times right now.

1895
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:43,519
Speaker 10: All of it's happening in the fourth quarter. Yeah, it's

1896
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,920
Speaker 10: twenty four points, most of that in the fourth He

1897
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:49,559
Speaker 10: has fourteen rebounds. The knickser had ninety six ninety two

1898
01:40:49,600 --> 01:40:52,000
Speaker 10: at Indiana with just over three minutes to go in

1899
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:55,439
Speaker 10: Game three of the NBA's Eastern Conference Finals. The Knicks

1900
01:40:55,479 --> 01:40:58,439
Speaker 10: were down by twenty late second quarter, took the lead

1901
01:40:58,520 --> 01:41:01,560
Speaker 10: with eight minutes to go. This great stat from Associated

1902
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:04,920
Speaker 10: Press tonight. Here the Knicks franchise, What would you guess

1903
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 10: their record is all time when they're down double digits

1904
01:41:07,640 --> 01:41:10,560
Speaker 10: to start a playoff game's fourth quarter? The answer is

1905
01:41:10,760 --> 01:41:14,560
Speaker 10: four and seventy four in the shot clock era, and

1906
01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 10: only two of those comeback wins are in the last

1907
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,559
Speaker 10: forty years for them. This may be another a slight

1908
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 10: lead on the road over three minutes to go. Game

1909
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 10: four of the series is at Indiana on Tuesday. The

1910
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 10: Nick shooting is up to forty six percent from the floor,

1911
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:36,280
Speaker 10: Jalen Brunson nineteen points and five fouls. Nearly every starter

1912
01:41:36,439 --> 01:41:39,799
Speaker 10: in double figures for Indiana, led by the seventeen points

1913
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:42,960
Speaker 10: of Miles Turner. Oklahoma City leads the West Finals two

1914
01:41:43,040 --> 01:41:45,960
Speaker 10: games to one. Game four at Minnesota is on Monday night.

1915
01:41:46,520 --> 01:41:50,240
Speaker 10: Among the four WNBA games, Phoenix sixty eight sixty two

1916
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 10: over Washington. One of the Washington players, Britney Sykes, one

1917
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 10: of thirteen from the floor. NHL Playoffs West Final Edmonton

1918
01:41:57,560 --> 01:41:59,600
Speaker 10: at home beat Dallas six to one. That game was

1919
01:41:59,640 --> 01:42:02,679
Speaker 10: two to one late in the second period. Game four

1920
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,840
Speaker 10: Tuesday in Edmonton with the Oilers up two games to one.

1921
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:08,880
Speaker 10: The NHL's East Final Game four is Monday, with Florida

1922
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:12,599
Speaker 10: up three games to none, hosting Carolina tomorrow. USA Hockey

1923
01:42:12,680 --> 01:42:16,040
Speaker 10: took the World Championship in overtime, beating Switzerland. Won nothing

1924
01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:19,120
Speaker 10: in the final. Alex Poalo won the Indy five hundred.

1925
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:21,840
Speaker 10: He's won the IndyCar season title three times in the

1926
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:25,360
Speaker 10: last four years. Kyle Larson crashed out of the five hundred,

1927
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,160
Speaker 10: then flew to North Carolina for the NASCAR race tonight

1928
01:42:28,720 --> 01:42:31,639
Speaker 10: and currently with about fifty laps to go in Charlotte.

1929
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:35,400
Speaker 10: Brag Keslowski has taken the lead. Michael McDowell is currently

1930
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:38,479
Speaker 10: in second as for the Major League Baseball Tonight in

1931
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,800
Speaker 10: New York, the Mets beat the Dodgers three to one.

1932
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 10: Shoe heey Otani did have a leadoff homer, eighteenth of

1933
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:46,679
Speaker 10: the year that's tied for the major league lead. Pete

1934
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 10: Alonso in the bottom of the first with a two

1935
01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,040
Speaker 10: run homer. It was the A's over Philadelphia five to

1936
01:42:52,160 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 10: four with two runs in the bottom of the eighth.

1937
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:57,200
Speaker 10: The Phillies had won nine straight. The Phills are first

1938
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,320
Speaker 10: in the NL East. They are now just two games

1939
01:43:00,479 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 10: over the New York Mets. Miami was a three nothing

1940
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 10: winner at the Angels, who had won six straight until

1941
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 10: last night's loss. San Diego was down three to one

1942
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,519
Speaker 10: at Atlanta after five innings, then homered in the sixth

1943
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 10: and the seventh in the eighth inning, five to three.

1944
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:14,400
Speaker 4: San Diego.

1945
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,640
Speaker 10: The final Padres had lost seven of eight. San Francisco

1946
01:43:17,760 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 10: won three to two at Washington. Winning pitcher Robbie Ray

1947
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,920
Speaker 10: is seven to zero for the Giants. He had seven

1948
01:43:23,000 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 10: strikeouts in six innings. Detroit beat Cleveland five nothing. The

1949
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 10: Tigers winner Trek Scooble pitched all nine innings ninety four pitches,

1950
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:35,840
Speaker 10: a two hitter, thirteen strikeouts, no walks, Schooble five and

1951
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 10: two Eer about two and a half his Tigers at

1952
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:42,320
Speaker 10: home eighteen and eight this year road wins for Baltimore

1953
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:45,080
Speaker 10: and Milwaukee, and for the Cubs as well. The Cubs

1954
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:47,600
Speaker 10: were down eight three after five innings, but wound up

1955
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,760
Speaker 10: winning at Cincinnati eleven to eight. Tampa Bay with its

1956
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:54,759
Speaker 10: fifth straight victory thirteen nothing over Toronto at the Yakes

1957
01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:57,360
Speaker 10: won at Colorado five to four rain delay in the

1958
01:43:57,400 --> 01:44:00,320
Speaker 10: fifth inning of about an hour forty five. They Yanks

1959
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 10: have won thirteen of their last seventeen. In other words,

1960
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 10: the Yankees easily have more wins in the last three

1961
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:08,400
Speaker 10: weeks than the Rockies have the whole season so far

1962
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:12,519
Speaker 10: in two months, because Colorado's record is nine and forty four,

1963
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 10: the Rockies had runners at first and second, one out

1964
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:18,800
Speaker 10: bottom of the ninth and left them. So Colorado had

1965
01:44:18,880 --> 01:44:21,599
Speaker 10: started this season with a six and twenty five record,

1966
01:44:21,640 --> 01:44:25,280
Speaker 10: which is a bad enough. They're three and nineteen since then,

1967
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:28,120
Speaker 10: so even worse. They'll be facing the Mets the next

1968
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:32,400
Speaker 10: couple of weekends. Today's starter and loser, Antonio Senzateela is

1969
01:44:32,520 --> 01:44:35,760
Speaker 10: one and nine with an ERA of six point five zero.

1970
01:44:36,680 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 10: The Rockies in series this season, well, they haven't won

1971
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:43,600
Speaker 10: a single series yet. They are zero to seventeen in

1972
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:47,080
Speaker 10: series the first two months of this campaign, and they

1973
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 10: do have the worst major league record through fifty three

1974
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 10: games of a season since nineteen oh one.

1975
01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:57,000
Speaker 1: Bank to you, okay, but not ever since nineteen oh one.

1976
01:44:57,160 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 10: Is pretty much injuries.

1977
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:00,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay.

1978
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:02,040
Speaker 1: I thought you were going to start telling us all

1979
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 1: about the team in nineteen oh one.

1980
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 10: The American League didn't exist in nineteen oh one, So

1981
01:45:07,840 --> 01:45:09,679
Speaker 10: that's the bulk of baseball history.

1982
01:45:09,800 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: Minor detail. Awesome stuff. Steve as as always, thank you, sir.

1983
01:45:16,040 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: We are live in the Fox Sports Radio studios. Yeah,

1984
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 1: the Knicks are ahead, Ephraim, the Knicks are ahead.

1985
01:45:24,479 --> 01:45:25,680
Speaker 3: Can they pull it off?

1986
01:45:25,960 --> 01:45:29,560
Speaker 2: Well, they have to, they have to obviously.

1987
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:34,519
Speaker 1: They cannot go down three to nothing, and I don't

1988
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:38,280
Speaker 1: even really think winning this game is going to save

1989
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:41,960
Speaker 1: them at all, but I give them some credit. And

1990
01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:44,679
Speaker 1: it's another reminder we see this a lot. A twenty

1991
01:45:44,760 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: point lead in the second quarter is just not what

1992
01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 1: it used to be. The way these teams shoot three

1993
01:45:51,040 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 1: pointers now a twenty point lead in the second quarter.

1994
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 1: It feels like almost always they go away.

1995
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:59,719
Speaker 3: It really does. Yeah, I mean with the three ball,

1996
01:46:01,439 --> 01:46:02,240
Speaker 3: you know, it's.

1997
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:06,000
Speaker 4: I always tell like when I'm coaching, I tell my

1998
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 4: team if we're down, very rare but down, always tell

1999
01:46:11,040 --> 01:46:15,920
Speaker 4: them three stops, three scores, Three stops, three scores. That

2000
01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 4: a chance to twelve point swing. If you're shooting threes

2001
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 4: right right, Well, if it's it's an eighteen point swing,

2002
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:24,800
Speaker 4: are a twelve point swing?

2003
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:25,080
Speaker 3: Right?

2004
01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 4: If you score three times, that's six points from the

2005
01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 4: two point area, and if you stop them, that six

2006
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 4: points right. So that's that's my formula for getting back

2007
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 4: in the game. So now a team can really focus

2008
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 4: on a singular thing like let's get three stops and

2009
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 4: three scores, and if you get a stop and then

2010
01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 4: don't score, you got start it over again, right, like

2011
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 4: three in a row, three stops, three scores. You can

2012
01:46:49,439 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 4: no matter how much you're down by, you can.

2013
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:51,519
Speaker 3: Get into it.

2014
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 4: You can get back into a game because what that

2015
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:58,240
Speaker 4: does is it changes momentum as well. That's a psychology

2016
01:46:58,320 --> 01:46:59,080
Speaker 4: behind the sport.

2017
01:46:59,520 --> 01:47:02,800
Speaker 1: I hear you man, no, and I'm looking at these

2018
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,320
Speaker 1: and it's coming down the stretch here. We will keep

2019
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 1: you posted on this one yep, two point game. Lots

2020
01:47:09,439 --> 01:47:12,920
Speaker 1: going on. Woh the physicality is good like this this

2021
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 1: series too, being so surprising.

2022
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:16,840
Speaker 2: I said this to you a few weeks ago. I'm like,

2023
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:18,240
Speaker 2: Boston and Cleveland is like.

2024
01:47:18,439 --> 01:47:22,439
Speaker 1: Definitely the Eastern Conference finals, and neither of them ended

2025
01:47:22,479 --> 01:47:26,040
Speaker 1: up getting here, and so we do have a little randomness.

2026
01:47:26,160 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 12: You know.

2027
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,160
Speaker 1: Minnesota I think is definitely one of the best teams

2028
01:47:29,200 --> 01:47:31,760
Speaker 1: in the West, but they were the six seed. Oklahoma

2029
01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,759
Speaker 1: City is the only team that's here that's like super

2030
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,880
Speaker 1: duper supposed to be here. So I think a fair

2031
01:47:39,000 --> 01:47:42,280
Speaker 1: moment to ask if I asked you who is the

2032
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:46,680
Speaker 1: most underrated player in the NBA, how would you answer that?

2033
01:47:48,280 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 3: Oof? The most underrated player and is he playing right now? Hmm.

2034
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:58,599
Speaker 3: I'm just going through.

2035
01:48:01,160 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 4: My file indecks of NBA games in NBA players and

2036
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 4: a half to go by the way year. I think,

2037
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:14,559
Speaker 4: coming off the year he had last year, people were

2038
01:48:14,640 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 4: expecting more during the regular season from Halliburton. Uh, but

2039
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 4: he showed up this playoffs. I mean his ability to

2040
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 4: score Brunton with a tough runner in the lane. I'll

2041
01:48:29,400 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 4: tell you this, bruntson to me is an MVP candidate,

2042
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:43,760
Speaker 4: and I don't think he gets the love because of

2043
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:48,960
Speaker 4: his stature. I mean he's a small guard, but when

2044
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 4: you look what he does for his team, for the

2045
01:48:51,320 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 4: Knicks and have them where they are now, people talk

2046
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:59,320
Speaker 4: about him, but not enough. They really don't. I mean,

2047
01:48:59,439 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 4: he goes as their team goes. I remember when the

2048
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,599
Speaker 4: Lakers went up to Madison Square Garden and played against him,

2049
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:07,120
Speaker 4: and it was going back and forth. We couldn't stop

2050
01:49:07,240 --> 01:49:08,840
Speaker 4: him and he hurt his ankle.

2051
01:49:09,160 --> 01:49:13,000
Speaker 1: Yep, I watched that was a great game, won that game.

2052
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,320
Speaker 3: Yep. He heard his ankle had to come ah and

2053
01:49:15,400 --> 01:49:18,479
Speaker 3: he was out for about five games after that.

2054
01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of weeks at least.

2055
01:49:20,520 --> 01:49:24,040
Speaker 4: And So for me, what Brunton means to this team

2056
01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:30,679
Speaker 4: and what he would mean on any team, I would

2057
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,560
Speaker 4: I would pick him. But Halliburton to me is the

2058
01:49:33,640 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 4: most underrated because he was voted the most overrated If

2059
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:40,160
Speaker 4: that makes sense.

2060
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,439
Speaker 1: It does. People may not know what you're kind of

2061
01:49:43,479 --> 01:49:45,960
Speaker 1: referring to, but yeah, I think it was the Athletic

2062
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 1: that put together an interview of some anonymous players, and

2063
01:49:50,920 --> 01:49:55,120
Speaker 1: his name came up the most as the most overrated player.

2064
01:49:55,160 --> 01:49:58,320
Speaker 2: Which is really funny to release that before these playoffs.

2065
01:49:58,200 --> 01:50:02,000
Speaker 1: Because scorching Earth, right, I mean, unbelievable. Nobody saw this

2066
01:50:02,160 --> 01:50:06,760
Speaker 1: coming and just miraculous comebacks and miraculous shots and you know,

2067
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 1: his dad holding up a towel in front of Giannis.

2068
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:14,200
Speaker 1: I mean, like just a wild run of attention that

2069
01:50:14,280 --> 01:50:17,400
Speaker 1: has taken place for this one player. I wonder about

2070
01:50:17,400 --> 01:50:20,640
Speaker 1: one of his teammates too, in it was huge in

2071
01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 1: game two. That's another name that I would think needs

2072
01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:24,560
Speaker 1: to come up in the conversation.

2073
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, because you know, the bottom line is SKAM has

2074
01:50:29,160 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 4: championship experience. They've won championship right with Toronto, and I

2075
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:39,519
Speaker 4: think that's it's it's on display. He completely took over

2076
01:50:39,640 --> 01:50:43,880
Speaker 4: Game two, like from this outset, and he kept the

2077
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:48,479
Speaker 4: knicks of of of kilter and they couldn't ever recover

2078
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 4: from that.

2079
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:49,400
Speaker 2: You know.

2080
01:50:49,680 --> 01:50:55,599
Speaker 4: But I will say I love Josh Hart. I loved

2081
01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,920
Speaker 4: him when he was a young puppet the Lakers, but

2082
01:50:58,560 --> 01:51:02,439
Speaker 4: what he does to this team is unreal. Another player

2083
01:51:02,439 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 4: I think is underrated is Alex Caruso.

2084
01:51:06,840 --> 01:51:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2085
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:14,160
Speaker 4: When you watch Alex Caruso guard the Joker, I mean,

2086
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:23,160
Speaker 4: and then Julius Randall and then Anthony Edwards and it's

2087
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:25,680
Speaker 4: just like, oh my goodness. And then hit that three

2088
01:51:25,800 --> 01:51:28,120
Speaker 4: over there, those three in d guys. I love those guys.

2089
01:51:28,439 --> 01:51:31,000
Speaker 4: They're selfless, they go for the rebounds that they're all hustled.

2090
01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 4: And so I think he's another underrated player. He just

2091
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:36,360
Speaker 4: happened to be an ex Lakers. Well boy, we can

2092
01:51:36,439 --> 01:51:36,800
Speaker 4: pick them.

2093
01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:42,599
Speaker 1: Pick him yep, yep, let him go a yeah, nicks

2094
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:46,640
Speaker 1: her up by four with about twenty seconds left to go.

2095
01:51:46,800 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 3: We'll have that nine point seven seconds.

2096
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:49,880
Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep.

2097
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,519
Speaker 1: There it is now, and then we'll have the exciting

2098
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:55,360
Speaker 1: conclusion of that here in a second. Plus is one

2099
01:51:55,400 --> 01:51:58,040
Speaker 1: more quarterback that we need to talk about, and we

2100
01:51:58,160 --> 01:52:00,599
Speaker 1: will do that coming up next with you from Salama,

2101
01:52:00,640 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 1: Mark Willard, Fox Sports Radio. I mean it is a

2102
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: video right here. Wat's this? Check this out?

2103
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Hey, Mary, what.

2104
01:52:16,240 --> 01:52:20,280
Speaker 1: What either of your parents or a close family member,

2105
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:22,479
Speaker 1: what's their phone number?

2106
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 2: Do you gotta memorize?

2107
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 6: I know my mom's phone number by heart?

2108
01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:26,320
Speaker 9: You do?

2109
01:52:26,960 --> 01:52:27,120
Speaker 5: I do?

2110
01:52:28,479 --> 01:52:31,800
Speaker 1: That's impressive and the same number for.

2111
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:35,479
Speaker 6: I want to say, like ten years and then she

2112
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,679
Speaker 6: just we just recently all changed to our numbers.

2113
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,200
Speaker 2: Did you did you have a childhood house phone?

2114
01:52:42,080 --> 01:52:42,519
Speaker 6: Of course?

2115
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:43,840
Speaker 2: And do you remember the number?

2116
01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:51,040
Speaker 1: Ah? No, see, I guarantee you Eve from still knows

2117
01:52:52,200 --> 01:52:54,760
Speaker 1: that child I'll do mine right now.

2118
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:57,679
Speaker 2: Five oh five four eight.

2119
01:52:57,680 --> 01:53:01,160
Speaker 4: Six three three is due brain.

2120
01:53:02,479 --> 01:53:04,880
Speaker 2: It was written in your underwear, like I mean it

2121
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:09,120
Speaker 2: was you. You did not not know that number?

2122
01:53:09,200 --> 01:53:11,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you had your quarters and your phone number.

2123
01:53:14,520 --> 01:53:19,639
Speaker 2: Oh man, the Knicks one, the Knicks one, the Knicks one.

2124
01:53:19,760 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 3: Man, how about that?

2125
01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:23,680
Speaker 2: Give it to him. That's a that's a that's a

2126
01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,679
Speaker 2: gutsy that's a gutsy effort. That's a gutsy effort.

2127
01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 3: That's a heck of an effort.

2128
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:28,960
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

2129
01:53:29,800 --> 01:53:34,440
Speaker 3: So they got another one of those in them if.

2130
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 2: They need at least two more, to be honest with you,

2131
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:40,759
Speaker 2: but that's a start. That's the start.

2132
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,000
Speaker 1: So both of the teams that had to win Game

2133
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:48,720
Speaker 1: three did and so these these conference finals are not

2134
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,760
Speaker 1: done yet. Hey, before we ride on out of here,

2135
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,919
Speaker 1: where are you at? On Caleb Williams.

2136
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:01,400
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see this year is going to bring

2137
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 4: for him, having the offensive mind like Ben Johnson there,

2138
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:09,679
Speaker 4: I look, he's obviously talented.

2139
01:54:11,120 --> 01:54:13,360
Speaker 3: Can he be the leader that Chicago needs? At the

2140
01:54:13,400 --> 01:54:17,160
Speaker 3: quarterback position. I'm not thinking. I'm not I don't care

2141
01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:18,320
Speaker 3: about the comments. I don't care.

2142
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,040
Speaker 4: Look, man, show up and play right, and it wasn't

2143
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,920
Speaker 4: fair to him the situation. I wouldn't want to go

2144
01:54:23,920 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 4: to the Bears either, I mean right, my first year

2145
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 4: was a DUMPSTERFI.

2146
01:54:28,720 --> 01:54:31,280
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that not wanting to go

2147
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,760
Speaker 1: to the Bears is weird. And I don't think that

2148
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: his dad not wanting him to go to.

2149
01:54:37,400 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 4: The Bear Why would you want your child to go

2150
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:41,240
Speaker 4: through an unstable situation.

2151
01:54:41,680 --> 01:54:44,600
Speaker 2: I think his dad talking to Seth Wickersham about it

2152
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:45,120
Speaker 2: is weird.

2153
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:45,960
Speaker 3: That is weird.

2154
01:54:46,040 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 2: I think that's very.

2155
01:54:48,160 --> 01:54:52,000
Speaker 4: Very anytime family members of pro athletes speak out and

2156
01:54:52,160 --> 01:54:56,720
Speaker 4: do interviews, I'm like, na, no, I think back to

2157
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 4: my career and I'm like, if my mom or my

2158
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:03,280
Speaker 4: dad or my wife was that, I would be like, hey,

2159
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:07,560
Speaker 4: we're not doing that. We're not doing that because what happened,

2160
01:55:07,600 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 4: like my brother, like we they don't know to not

2161
01:55:12,760 --> 01:55:16,880
Speaker 4: let things that you've talked about personally out, Like if

2162
01:55:16,920 --> 01:55:20,440
Speaker 4: someone's brother is like man, I could see him leaving here,

2163
01:55:20,520 --> 01:55:24,800
Speaker 4: then y'all have talked about it, right, like you you've

2164
01:55:24,920 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 4: had conversations about it. Like if someone's dad is like, hey,

2165
01:55:29,040 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 4: well then you've you've had intimate conversations about that. So

2166
01:55:34,720 --> 01:55:39,240
Speaker 4: now instead of you saying it's me saying it, and

2167
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,360
Speaker 4: so I don't like that.

2168
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,920
Speaker 2: Well I just mhm.

2169
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:48,160
Speaker 3: See I was right, like, Kat didn't start the game.

2170
01:55:49,920 --> 01:55:51,160
Speaker 1: He's listed as a starter.

2171
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 3: Didn't start. I knew it. H Robinson started.

2172
01:55:57,600 --> 01:55:58,560
Speaker 2: That's an interesting moment.

2173
01:55:58,640 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 4: I was, I mean, I was was thinking about it

2174
01:56:00,680 --> 01:56:03,600
Speaker 4: because I would. I watched the game from the beginning.

2175
01:56:03,640 --> 01:56:05,560
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I thought so I thought Cat

2176
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:06,000
Speaker 4: was hurt.

2177
01:56:06,960 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 1: Now I'm again, this is just the Internet. I didn't

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Speaker 1: have it on until like a few minutes ago. Yes, Steve,

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Speaker 1: the box score.

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Speaker 2: Says Robinson and Cat started, they didn't. Did Josh Hart start?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: I think Josh Hart was the one who came off

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Speaker 1: the bench.

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Speaker 3: I think Josh started.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, I have no dog in this fight,

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Speaker 2: and I'm not. I don't know, but that's what's listed

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Speaker 2: in the box score. We'll get to the bottom of

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Speaker 2: what's listed in the box score.

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Speaker 1: Did you just have the nerve to try to say

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Speaker 1: that Steve with one name is wrong?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I've got the answer.

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Speaker 7: So Robinson did start at center Town started as well,

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Speaker 7: but at the four, so he started to power.

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Speaker 1: Forward, apologized to Steve how long did he play?

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Speaker 2: A minute?

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Speaker 7: I'm just looking at Twitter sleeper Knicks at sleeper Knicks

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Speaker 7: has posted the starting lineup from three hours ago.

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Speaker 4: Well, sleeper Knicks sleep, Yeah, the definitive, I got it.

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Speaker 2: No, But but SOA's like, yeah, he's listened as Steve.

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Speaker 3: Coming in St.

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Speaker 10: Colin's actually got possession on the opening tap.

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Speaker 4: He caught the ball. Okay, he was the old Steve Gow. Wow,

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Speaker 4: that felt take it back.

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Speaker 2: I listened out a lot more than uh, what did

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Speaker 2: you call him? Step Nicks?

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Speaker 4: And Steve threw his helm, his head head off and

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Speaker 4: he's glaring at me through these through the window.

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Speaker 1: He's He's like, I'd never let my son host with

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Speaker 1: he from I know that I'm.

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Speaker 10: Afraid to walk to my car alone, not sending you

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Speaker 10: that chick curs answering phone though.

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Speaker 2: That's the end of that. Yeah, I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you cannot know that by by now, And

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Speaker 2: I mean one.

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Speaker 1: Thing you never did, don't do don't do it. Don't

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Speaker 1: do an interviewer. No, but don't don't do an interview you,

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Speaker 1: but certainly don't say that. Don't don't say that he

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Speaker 1: knows all all right, Very very fun, very fun. Go

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Speaker 1: have a hell of a week and we'll do it

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Speaker 1: again next week. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Happy Memorial Day. Shout out to all those who served

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Speaker 4: this country

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Speaker 1: At one well said glad you got it in there

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Speaker 1: for you From Salam, I'm Mark Willert's stay right where

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