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Speaker 3: those in a minute.

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Speaker 4: Former teammate, former teammate. If you're yeah, yeah, talk to

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Speaker 4: me about your time, Drew, We rock for good. We

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Speaker 4: had a strong ten days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a couple of times after practice I'll go

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Speaker 4: trying to make some conversation with him. He's taking some

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Speaker 4: business calls. We'll catch you later. Yeah, we'll talk shop later.

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Speaker 3: But the effort was put in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, effort was put in there. Yeah. Yeah. We

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Speaker 4: enjoyed some hot a couple of hot tub moments I

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Speaker 4: had with him and taste. I'm thinking, Drew Brees, you're

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Speaker 4: in there. Got a couple of laughs. One of the

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Speaker 4: one of the days they were talking about or we

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Speaker 4: were talking about how Taysom Hill could squat like over

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Speaker 4: six hundred pounds, which is, did you insane? I I

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Speaker 4: haven't got see it because we were in we were

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Speaker 4: in we were in training camp. You know, Brian back

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Speaker 4: into training camp too.

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Speaker 4: But everybody was talking about how Taysom Hill could squad

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Speaker 4: over six hundred punds And I'm sitting there like that

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Speaker 4: is that is insane for him, all the positions he plays.

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Speaker 4: JP said it maybe the greatest athlete, maybe the greatest

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Speaker 4: football player, pure football player of all time. Uh, but

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Speaker 4: the squad over six hundred pounds is ridiculous, disgusting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is the origin story these ten days

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Speaker 3: is when your back started.

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Speaker 4: Correct, No, my back started Raiders. That was later that

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Speaker 3: So you're sitting there at the time thinking, man, I

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Speaker 3: If you can do six, I can at least three hundred.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I could get three hundred at that time, easy.

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Speaker 4: Maybe four? Yeah, I could get four.

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Speaker 3: If you're if you were going and you did a

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Speaker 4: You kept trying to reward it like I'm just supersing

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Speaker 4: no matter what different world it hurts. I'm a goblet squader.

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Speaker 4: Hell yeah, seventy pounds.

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Speaker 3: Oh see, big dog stuff.

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Speaker 3: Now we are shooting the Bus with the Boys episode

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Speaker 3: before we'd their weekend recap, so we're not really into

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Speaker 4: people out here that are listening right now. Obviously, my

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Speaker 4: You can check all that stuff out. We covered it

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Speaker 4: on Mondays. Here we're here for some more fun, get

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Speaker 4: some pet peeves feel has been begging for those segments

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Speaker 4: to come back. The tier talk we have going on.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, how was let's start off. Let's go ahead

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Speaker 4: and start. You wanna start with my weekend? Your weekend?

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Speaker 3: What do we go ahead? Youre already talking.

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Speaker 4: Listen. We all saw what happened Friday night. We talked

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Speaker 4: There we go again. We ain't gotta talking about it.

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Speaker 3: We'll say this too, could be a positive long term

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Speaker 4: Yeah right, I'm thinking about Northwestern, got you so.

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Speaker 3: For us on this bus that's not thinking about Northwestern

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Speaker 4: Great, it was a It was a great weekend. Weirdly, weird, fun, great,

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Speaker 4: all mixed together. Saturday, we went to uh myself, Charrow

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Speaker 4: I've been telling everybody that LSU was a bunch of frauds.

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Speaker 4: But we had a lot of fun. Got to meet

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Speaker 4: Tiger tried coming up and messing with her. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 4: And stuff like that, and Rude's stoneface like just like

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Speaker 3: Is one of my kid's fault, that your child has

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Speaker 4: Ye, yeah, yeah, she's scared of masks. She's scared of mascots,

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Speaker 4: We had a We had a great day at Vanderbilt.

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Speaker 4: Shout out to staff at Vanderbilt. They did a great

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Speaker 4: My dad got married, So we made a we made

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Speaker 3: God, this is a couple's retreat. When Vince Bond's with

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Speaker 4: We know this was a bad deal. Yeah, this one

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Speaker 4: take the wife. We go to Dermot Kennedy concert. Any

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Speaker 4: great artist. Oh hang on, I'm pretty sure.

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Speaker 5: One of the first times we met, you were like,

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Speaker 5: of course you're trying to clown on me and you

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Speaker 5: on Durmke Kennedy.

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Speaker 4: He stays on the playlist.

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Speaker 5: He's good.

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Speaker 4: Charles was obsessed with Dermot Kennedy. I've always liked her

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Speaker 4: for him, open for him. Both of them did. Like

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Speaker 4: the acoustic version where they're singing to the crowd, very intimate.

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Speaker 4: It was awesome. He's awesome. Dermot Kennedy was awesome and

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Speaker 4: so yeah, very jam packed weekend, very fun weekend all

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Speaker 3: My weekend phenomenal. Well, obviously we do the stream Thursday

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Speaker 3: it's a true brainwashing experience when you do with your children,

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Speaker 3: Damn I know.

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Speaker 3: be able to make it. Disney World, Disney World, Disney World.

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00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 3: Will and I sat in the play and I was like,

432
00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:54,440
Speaker 3: I kind of feel bad. I'm not gonna make He

433
00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 3: say you ain't gotta go, and he's like, pissed off

434
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,240
Speaker 3: about you and gotta go. That's like one of my

435
00:18:58,240 --> 00:18:59,880
Speaker 3: best friends. I have to go self.

436
00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:02,280
Speaker 4: Brad Well, it was more Yeah I did say that,

437
00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,280
Speaker 4: but I'm also thinking, like, yeah, in your situation, I

438
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:05,359
Speaker 4: wouldn't I wouldn't go.

439
00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 3: I do love Brad though, and I know that, like

440
00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,960
Speaker 3: I know Brad's personality, and so like I just would

441
00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,040
Speaker 3: I know that the next time I see Brad, He's

442
00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,800
Speaker 3: gonna say something the next time and the next time

443
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:16,280
Speaker 3: and the next time, and it'll follow me for a

444
00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:19,040
Speaker 3: few years. Yeah, And I just think, like, yeah, I'm

445
00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:20,760
Speaker 3: gonna have to deal with those bullets because my family

446
00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,560
Speaker 3: and I were gonna go to Disney World. Yeah, great guy,

447
00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,320
Speaker 3: I'll get him a gift. I probably won't get him

448
00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,400
Speaker 3: a gift, but I'll text him, Hey, congratulations on your

449
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 3: on your marriage. That's amazing.

450
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 4: Should we get into uh tear talk? Do we want

451
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,959
Speaker 4: shout outs? Pet peas? Where we want to go?

452
00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,360
Speaker 3: Let's bring back shout out real quick.

453
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 4: Shout out, no free shout out, Yeah, I uh.

454
00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 3: Do you mind? Go ahead shout out, no free shout out,

455
00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:46,919
Speaker 3: pilot Bob shout out, no free shout out. Pilots that

456
00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,840
Speaker 3: you think, no matter what happens, I'm safe. The pilot

457
00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,520
Speaker 3: we had from being a to titoborough thank you, Thank

458
00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,240
Speaker 3: you fly House and JJ at Flyhouse. This guy gets on.

459
00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,480
Speaker 3: He's old, he's probably what in the seventies. Yeah, he's

460
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,520
Speaker 3: got over thirty thousand hours of flying. I think he

461
00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 3: was in Vietnam.

462
00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 4: Two tours in Vietnam, four tours in Afghanistan boom, and

463
00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 4: he's just generational.

464
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,360
Speaker 3: Flight face talks to us. He's one of those calm stoic,

465
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 3: like you know, older gentlemen that just like make you

466
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 3: feel safe no matter what we get done. We fly

467
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 3: in at Teeterborough, goes a little windy out there, but

468
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 3: now now the the risky part happens. You guys have

469
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,080
Speaker 3: to drive like he just knows like flying he is

470
00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,360
Speaker 3: it does not matter what happens on that airplane. He's

471
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 3: gonna take care of business when we get back. Dude,

472
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,000
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, glad to have you guys back. He

473
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,480
Speaker 3: starts showing me his mother was a World War two

474
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 3: pilot who was one of the only women World War

475
00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,640
Speaker 3: two pilots who would take bombs and try to take

476
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,960
Speaker 3: out submarines and fly like really low. She's like, she's

477
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 3: this is the only woman pilot to do this, like

478
00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,159
Speaker 3: Medal of honor type stuff like it was. This is

479
00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 3: as we're getting on the flight to come back to Nashville,

480
00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 3: and so you sit there and I always usually fall

481
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 3: asleep on flights anyway, but there's always a PCU. That's

482
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,720
Speaker 3: like what if? And then you're no, I'm not gonna

483
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,560
Speaker 3: go there, and you go to sleep. This was one

484
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,120
Speaker 3: of those things where it's at the blanket put over

485
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 3: my head and knocked out for pretty much your entire flight.

486
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 6: You said he has thirty thousand hours.

487
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 3: He said, he yeah, because I remember saying, you know,

488
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 3: you're an outlier three times over, and he's like.

489
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's over three years of life.

490
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 4: Of Yeah, that's just he gets in the air. He

491
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 4: loves me in the air.

492
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,119
Speaker 3: You could tell what we're on ground. It's like you

493
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,320
Speaker 3: see someone with their sea legs. He won't really, he didn't.

494
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: He's got air legs.

495
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,280
Speaker 6: He spent three He's like, spent three years of his

496
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,680
Speaker 6: life in air, Which.

497
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy? Just crazy? Shout out no free, shout

498
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 4: out gushers man, Hell, yeah, you know what. Yeah, got

499
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,720
Speaker 4: my hands on some red gushers yesterday. I kind of

500
00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:43,080
Speaker 4: saw him. I kind of saw him. I gave him

501
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 4: a pack. That's actually I think that's probably why she

502
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,160
Speaker 4: ended up throwing up. But I was like, hey, rude,

503
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 4: this is one of the dead's favorite snacks. Back in

504
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 4: the day, we got you some gushers, go ahead, try

505
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 4: you out some of those so shout out, uh, shout

506
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,200
Speaker 4: out gushers, shout out no free shutdow.

507
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 3: Would you get your hands some gushers at this wedding

508
00:21:58,240 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 3: were they so just on.

509
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 4: The plane's nats on the plane and.

510
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah what a plane?

511
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:11,160
Speaker 4: What everyone at flyhouse? You flyhouse?

512
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's beautiful.

513
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 4: The only way to make it like we had the

514
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 4: stream on Saturday night we had we were having We

515
00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 4: don't have a childcare, so we had to take the

516
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:24,840
Speaker 4: kids with us. If you're flying in from Nashville to

517
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 4: Saint Louis, it was gonna be that's an hour away

518
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 4: from uh where the wedding would be. The flights didn't

519
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 4: work on flying out the morning of without like a

520
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 4: without like a connecting flight, and it's like you got

521
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 4: to take both kids with you for and we needed

522
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,879
Speaker 4: to get back for the Dermok Kennedy concert that we

523
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 4: had booked forever trying to go to London in the summer.

524
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,359
Speaker 4: We just couldn't make it happen. She's actually going to

525
00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 4: London this week with Rue on a mother daughter trip.

526
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 4: They're going for like five days in London. They leave.

527
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 4: We're recording on Monday, they leave tonight, but we were

528
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 4: going to go to London and see Dermock Kennedy in London,

529
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 4: And since we couldn't make that work, I'm looking on

530
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 4: my phone to see if he comes through Nashville. All

531
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 4: just so happen as he was coming to the Rhyman,

532
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 4: you know, at that point in the summer, he's coming

533
00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 4: to Ryman in October. I got those tickets. Wedding thing happened.

534
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 4: Didn't want to break my wife's heart by being like,

535
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 4: we can't go to Dermot Kennedy because I was like,

536
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: we will go to Dermot Kennedy if we don't go

537
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,520
Speaker 4: to London, because I was like trying not to go

538
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: to London for seventy two hours. I'm like, sweet, I listen, that.

539
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 3: Is crazy to go somewhere for seventy two hours.

540
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I'm like, I know it would be fun.

541
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 4: I know, just the two of us, YadA YadA, But like,

542
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: come on, we can, we can, we can do something

543
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 4: closer so that way we get more time at said place.

544
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 4: Right then spending half the time in the air, that's

545
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 4: sixteen hours in the air. So then when I was

546
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,919
Speaker 4: in that kind of pickle, just had to make it

547
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:42,520
Speaker 4: happen Flywers. I hit up Clump. I was like, hey,

548
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 4: can you see what can I get a couple of

549
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 4: quotes for like just a day trip in and out

550
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 4: because you know, go to the wedding. I'm pump for

551
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,479
Speaker 4: my dad, but there's you know, Willie Boy's going through

552
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 4: his own journey with this process and everything else. I

553
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 4: want to get back so I can still go to

554
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 4: the concert. Couldn't leave that night of because we had

555
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 4: the stream Tennessee, Alabama, so kind of caught in a

556
00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 4: pickle problem solved shout shut out house. That is how nice.

557
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: Uh.

558
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 4: It was shaky because it was very windy yesterday. We

559
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 4: were on a turboprop is that what it's called turbo?

560
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 4: A beachcraft? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, So it was shaky. It

561
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 4: was dicey, buddy. When I Charle was down going down

562
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: like a web MD wormhole, like she was looking up

563
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 4: these pilots the experience, and I'm like, pilots, but it's

564
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:34,080
Speaker 4: easy these pilots have. But just going down the GBT,

565
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,800
Speaker 4: I'm with you, going down that snake cole of like

566
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 4: what's the risk? And the thirty mile an hour winds

567
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,680
Speaker 4: because there were gusts. Yesterday it was raining and gusts

568
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 4: were happening in Nashville. A lot of wind and gusts

569
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: in Missouri where we were going. She's like, do you

570
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 4: feel confident. I was like, yeah, I feel confident. We

571
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 4: took a we took a small little plane from here

572
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 4: to Bend. Her name snow and everything. It was snow

573
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: and everything else.

574
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,400
Speaker 3: Dude that said, I might have been the same time

575
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: of year when I came to see you in Missouri

576
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: a few years back, and I was on that flight.

577
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 4: And then there's that little airport. They can't you can't.

578
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,919
Speaker 4: You have to take a small plane to.

579
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,360
Speaker 3: A small plane. And the dude on the way back, well,

580
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 3: I'm getting thrown over there, but I'm the only guy

581
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 3: on the plane. I'm like, this is exactly when people die. Yeah,

582
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 3: this is on one hundred percent when people go down. Yeah,

583
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: no bags, just like I gotta get back to Nashville

584
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: because I'm still playing football at the time. And the

585
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: dude looks back and gives me the thumbs up. I'm like,

586
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 3: I guess we're straight.

587
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 4: And you look out the window and it is moving

588
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: like as we're landing in Missouri, like it's moving and

589
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 4: going a little sideways where I'm staying poised. But internally

590
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, all right, because my Charles over there breathing

591
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 4: like all this stuff. She's like, we're taking our entire

592
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,360
Speaker 4: family and we're gonna be on a small plane. She's

593
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:51,399
Speaker 4: getting super nervous. I'm like, we got only a couple option, sweetheart, Like, uh,

594
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 4: we're either on the plane and we all go. You

595
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 4: can stay home. I truly doesn't bother me, and I

596
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 4: can just go by myself. I know you're probably thing

597
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 4: in your head, well what if you die and then

598
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: we're all because I'm thinking we'll all go down as

599
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 4: a family. At least we all go down to.

600
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say that might be kind of

601
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: a wind, right or when these kids are pretty young,

602
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 3: that's really sad, but like.

603
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 4: Both parents, Yeah, yeah, well, don't.

604
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 3: We all just take the take the drink together, you know,

605
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 3: take the coolie together, and just fucking get out of here.

606
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 4: You know, or we cancel it and we gotta spend

607
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 4: you know, ten twelve hours in a car and we're

608
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 4: gonna have to drive to the wedding and we're missing

609
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 4: Dermak Kennedy on the way home. And that was the

610
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 4: deciding factor. I didn't have to go as willing to

611
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 4: risk death. I didn't have to go there. I didn't

612
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 4: have to lay out those options. Fortunately, it's like we

613
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 4: got connected. I'm breaking stuff down. I'm like, hey, I'm

614
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,479
Speaker 4: telling you we're gonna be all right. But even right

615
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 4: when we took off from Nashville because it was raining,

616
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 4: it was starting to rain pretty good, and the wind

617
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 4: was going right when we took off, and the wheels

618
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: like got like right off the ground that spot where

619
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 4: was just about to lift you like like felt the

620
00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: jerk sideway. Oh no, Charles got Scotty attached her and

621
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 4: she her eyes are just closed and she's just breathing.

622
00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 4: We're just going we.

623
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 3: It's so funny, idea we dude. When Willow and I

624
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 3: took off, we flew delta. When we took off to

625
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 3: go to Detroit, I had the thing down. Everybody had

626
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 3: their like shades down or whatever, the window shades, and

627
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: we're taking off and will was like, are we gonna

628
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 3: leave it? I'm like, we're like thirty minutes into the flapping, honey,

629
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: we're in there. She goes, oh, right back from the iPad.

630
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: I was like all right, hell yeah.

631
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 4: Does child get scared flying, No, she just gets it's

632
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: the whole family, dynamic thing. She just she'll get in

633
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: her head about the family and then the small plane,

634
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 4: and then she sees the two years. She's like, they've

635
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 4: only been you know, this pilot graduated in twenty twenty three,

636
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 4: this ungraduated in twenty twenty one.

637
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 7: This is our very first They sent all this stuff.

638
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 7: Will text me in the morning and I just start

639
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 7: feeling like shit instantly, like my morning was ruined because

640
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 7: I'm worried for him, knowing that they're worried because it's

641
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 7: a smaller plane. And then the guy texted he's like,

642
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 7: it might be a little bumpy when they take off.

643
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 7: All I'm thinking, as your wife's sitting there closing her eyes.

644
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, because it's her. It's like their first flight,

645
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: and it's like, you know, on the small plane and

646
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 4: everything else. I'm like, we're gonnay, it's gonna be easy.

647
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,520
Speaker 4: Before fucking it's like Jurassic parking. When you get done

648
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 4: it kind of dope, huh oh.

649
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's like a piece of you that's like kind

650
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 3: of to survive something easy. Just now it is wild.

651
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 3: You wanna fly out to Brad's wedding.

652
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: No, no, we're going. We fly out the early flight

653
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 4: on Saturday morning.

654
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 3: Oh nice, so you can get a full twenty four

655
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 3: hours there, Yeah we can.

656
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 4: We can. Uh, we can spend some time there.

657
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: That'd be nice. It's just you and Drel going. Yeah,

658
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 3: so Charles's doing today, we're filming on Monday. She's flying

659
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 3: out to London, spending five days there. So she gets

660
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: back Friday, Friday, and then she's gonna get on a

661
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 3: plane Saturday.

662
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 4: Yep.

663
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 3: That's rock star ship. Yeah, that is rock star ship.

664
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 4: And positive too about it being in Spock, because I

665
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,719
Speaker 4: know a bitched a lot about this wedding in New

666
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 4: York and everything else. It is at a sleepy hollow.

667
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 3: Sleepy hall. I said, Salem, you're dude. That does gast

668
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 3: me up for you. You gotta do something fun and spooky,

669
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 3: I know. I mean you just gotta walk around. Yeah yeah,

670
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 3: sleepy hollow where sleepy hollows horsemen.

671
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: That's great.

672
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 4: You got to take a lot of send me some photos.

673
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 4: I got you, yeah, I got you.

674
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: Just that to some spooked over stup. Look, there's some

675
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 3: tear talk, dude. This is from tom at tom Rynette

676
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: High start tear talk. If the states of Michigan and

677
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: Nebraska went to war with each other, who would win?

678
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 4: And why if the states of Michigan Nebraska went to war? Yeah,

679
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 4: I don't know what's the pop there. I would think

680
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 4: I would lean heavy Nebraska, just the blue collar, the

681
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 4: gurden spit, the farmers out there.

682
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go uh easy dub Michigan. Detroit, Yeah, Detroit, Flint,

683
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 3: like and you talk about blue collar cats like this

684
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 3: go up to the up like those people are survivors

685
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 3: up there, like that's basically Canada arms race. Yeah.

686
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, there's some pockets.

687
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 3: Like and also is this is this a neutral site,

688
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: like everyone just meets up in like Minnesota and we

689
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 3: go ches or do we have to like go to Nebraska?

690
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: Is in an away game in away war? Because if

691
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: that's the case.

692
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 4: Two, yeah, you bring up those cities like we're we're

693
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 4: just we're insanely outnumbered.

694
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 3: Insanely because I have to look at the population, I'm

695
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 3: thinking you're fucking dead.

696
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: Detroit done.

697
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: And also like we to Nebraska, it might have to

698
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: be like revolutionary war style where it's like everyone you're

699
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: going to see each other fifteen miles away. We might

700
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 3: as well just line them up, get some muskets in

701
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 3: our hand, and get a little drummer boy and get

702
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: going after.

703
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 4: Some gorilla tactics going on. You come to Nebraska to

704
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 4: trench war. Yeah, warfare, you have to win a different way.

705
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 3: Okay, let's get to await. So you you're thinking Nebraska

706
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: still no miss okay? Uh Andrew at a underscore Hilliard eleven.

707
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 3: I want to hear the boys thoughts on things you

708
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: kind of like about a sick day, staying home from school,

709
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 3: watching the prices right, or things of that nature. Let's

710
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 3: have a hell the Monday Boys hashtag tear talk. Yeah.

711
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 8: I was never allowed to stay home from school. I'd

712
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 8: be going to school with diarrhea if I had strap throat.

713
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 6: I'm at school.

714
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 8: I was just I was a kid getting every other

715
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 8: kid sick.

716
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 4: I feel that too, bro. My mom wouldn't anytime I

717
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 4: go and then I'd be sick and I go to

718
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 4: the nurse or whatever and she's like, gotta call your mom.

719
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: My mom comes in, she's almost pissed off it. Oh yeah,

720
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 4: cause she's like, you just worked the system to go home,

721
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking I feel sick and she's like, you're

722
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 4: going to school or if it's bad and they gotta

723
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 4: take me because I have a fever. My mom would

724
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 4: be tight going home, my mom, and you ain't playing

725
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: your game boy? Yeah, I'd be trying to I gotta

726
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 4: go take a ship. I'm sitting on the toilet trying

727
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 4: to play the game boy, trying to play some Pokemon.

728
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 4: Gotta catch them all. Oh, got to catch them.

729
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 8: My mom and dad would be like pissed if I

730
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 8: like you, you're waiting until this weekend to go to

731
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 8: the doctor.

732
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: Dude.

733
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 4: Yeah.

734
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: The parents, if they don't believe that you're sick, they

735
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 3: put you in hell. You're no no TV, no nothing,

736
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 3: and it's the Hey, if you're really sick, you should

737
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 3: really rest. Just go in your room and lay there.

738
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, some parents. I got some buddies now that they'd

739
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 4: be it'd be like sniffles and they're fucking staying home

740
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 4: anytime out here. Oh Chuck isn't here today. I just

741
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 4: have one with him. I roll like that dad, dude

742
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 4: ain't sick. Oh he's kid home too. The kid was

743
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 4: our boy too, that like lived with Chuck. But it's

744
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 4: like we were all just friends like they weren't brothers nothing.

745
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: He just he was just living with Chuck at the time,

746
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 4: and they'd be like both of them were sick. It's

747
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 4: like they're fucking at home right now playing two K

748
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: basketball Fontera.

749
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is uh yeah. You know everyone had

750
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 3: those friends that when they weren't there, You're like, I know,

751
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: this motherfucker's having best day.

752
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: Kid feels. I gave him that nick. I gave him

753
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 4: that nickname. In middle school, JJ Kidd, he loved JJ Kidd.

754
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 4: He'd wear like wristbands around his uh calf with shorts.

755
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 4: I loved him. I loved him.

756
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: Hey, this might not be I hated missing school. Was

757
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: never good in school, but hated so boring. Buddy, it's

758
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 3: boring and like all your friends are there. So when

759
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 3: I see with these kids, it'd be more like high school.

760
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 3: Like these kids, you'll be like, I'm skipping class.

761
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 4: I'm going.

762
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm thinking, bro, I want to go to class.

763
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: Cute girls in there, My boys are in this class.

764
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: Like I want to be around. I want to be around.

765
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 4: I always want to get the I always wanted to

766
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 4: get the ninety seven percent, ninety eight percent attendance rate,

767
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: go on the field trip at the end of the year,

768
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: get an award.

769
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 6: We never had that, never had that shit. I would

770
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 6: have been in there every year.

771
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, every year with the sniffles.

772
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 9: We had a We had a girl in our high

773
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 9: school graduation. She was also our valedictorian, Laney Anderson.

774
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 3: Shout out, Laney.

775
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 9: Perfect attendance all the way K through twelve, No way

776
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,719
Speaker 9: K through twelve. It was the first time in our

777
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 9: school's history, the.

778
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 4: First time in American history.

779
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 9: But truly, they have this whole plaque and everything. There's

780
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 9: like a doctor's appointments that you could like miss like

781
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 9: a class and it still counted, you know what I

782
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 9: mean of a full day. But she made it past

783
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 9: like five periods at least every single day, which is crazy.

784
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 4: That tip of the cap to her tip of the.

785
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: Cap, yeah, tip of the cap, tip of the cap.

786
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. The all sick this thing.

787
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 6: How are you going to be if? How are you

788
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 6: gonna be if?

789
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 8: When Rue and Scotti here come up to you think, Dad,

790
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 8: I don't feel good, like my stomach hurts.

791
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 4: Oh, they'll go to school. Rude didn't have the fever symptoms,

792
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 4: but Rue had hand mouthed foot and her ass was

793
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 4: at school. It's more like checking with the teachers and

794
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 4: everything else. There is there is a thing too, like

795
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 4: you check with the teachers, and there's a level of

796
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: they're not contagious if they don't have a fever and

797
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 4: they don't have like sores in their mouth, they just

798
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 4: kind of have the the reaction of it. Scotty had

799
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 4: the fever and everything else. Rude just kind of had

800
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: had like the dots and stuff on her foot and

801
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:49,359
Speaker 4: everything else, but they were like already scabbed and that's

802
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 4: like a sign that she's not contagious. So it's like

803
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 4: we checked with the teachers. But it was also one

804
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: of those things like I saw charge, I was like, well,

805
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 4: she needs a she needs to go to school. She's

806
00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 4: feeling fine. I'm like, ah, wait you but this it

807
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 4: kind of looks weird. It kind of looks like a

808
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 4: bit of a deal. And she's like put choos on

809
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 4: and everything else. And that's where I'm like, Okay, we're

810
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 4: on the same page. I just need more of a

811
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: push because I'm like this seems like it could be

812
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,359
Speaker 4: a deal. And once I drive and drop her off,

813
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 4: I'm like asking the teachers and everything else, and everything

814
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 4: was all solid. But they'll go to they'll yeah, they'll

815
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: they'll go to school. It's just it's you know, how

816
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 4: you're going to show up every day like this is

817
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 4: this is a discipline and a principle that you embody

818
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 4: and you have to establish when they're little, because I

819
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 4: know that's how That's how my parents were of me,

820
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: Like there wasn't a there was no getting out of

821
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 4: you know, trying to be sick or anything else. There

822
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 4: were times where we're absolutely dog sick and you just

823
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 4: can't go to school. But yeah, as long as as

824
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: long as they're not like running a fever and everything else,

825
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 4: Like if you're feeling bad, it's like okay, if you

826
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 4: got like a little cold, like to me, you're going

827
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 4: to school.

828
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: Well, we got to be in the hundreds before that

829
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 3: conversation takes place of like do they miss school? Yeah

830
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 3: yeah yeah yeah, big.

831
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 9: Time insane by My mom would do anything she could

832
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 9: to give me to school of like I had to

833
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 9: be actively vomiting or have like a one on one

834
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,439
Speaker 9: fever so.

835
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: Bro one time, guys. When I was younger, I probably

836
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: nine or something like that, I did not want to

837
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 3: go to school one day and I tried to play sick,

838
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 3: didn't have the fever. Heard about the pennything under the tongue.

839
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 3: Tried that didn't work.

840
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 4: That night.

841
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: I took it one of those little green like army

842
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 3: soldiers with the little musket and had like a little

843
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 3: point to it, and I kept putting into my nose

844
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 3: and tickling in the back of my nose and sneezed,

845
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 3: and I kept sneezing and sneezing and sneezing to where

846
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 3: my mom came in, like let's just call it. An

847
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: hour later and she's like, hey, you're not going to

848
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 3: school tomorrow, Like it sounds like you're really having a

849
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 3: hard I was like having a really tough time. Didn't

850
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: sneeze the rest of the night because I went right

851
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: to sleep right after that. They had to know, yeah, bro,

852
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: they had to know I was lying. Yeah, I got that.

853
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 3: I had that thing like touching my brain. At some

854
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: point my eyes were like welting up. Well, I'm like

855
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 3: I gotta get out. I had no idea why I

856
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: wanted to get out school. Yeah, exactly.

857
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 4: That was the O g one.

858
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: When they take a hard right turn, I feel like it.

859
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,320
Speaker 4: Sneeze is so easy to bake.

860
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,879
Speaker 1: I just love that. You're like, no, we're getting the real.

861
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I was like water pouring out of my eyes

862
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: and it was just like one side to my right

863
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: side of my face was just like all red. And

864
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 3: it's like totally fine.

865
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 4: I had to put myself in a situation where it's

866
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 4: like I couldn't. I needed somebody else to be my

867
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Speaker 4: my alibi. And so after dinner one night, and like,

868
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a shower. Whyat was? You know, White's

869
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 4: like six years younger than me, but he's young enough

870
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 4: to where he shower. And it's like, all right, you guys,

871
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 4: you help White shower everything else. And I house a

872
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 4: bunch of apple sauce in my mouth and I kind

873
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: of hold it to where we're showering, and I just

874
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 4: pretend to throw up all over the shower so that

875
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 4: way White could leave the shower and be like, oh, yeah,

876
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: will was will was thrown up? And I can kind

877
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 4: of milk it a little bit like those were.

878
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 3: And it goes in the drain too, which is genius.

879
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, to where she can't check it. All she

880
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: has to do is trust White, and she's kind of

881
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: going off my body language. Why it's young enough, he doesn't.

882
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: True? Yeah, that is elite, elite.

883
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 4: Do we have more to your talk?

884
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 9: Shrem We do, but just because of time, we're thinking

885
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 9: we may kick it to Chad Powers.

886
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: Okay, all right's he get to Chad Powers real quick?

887
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Oh?

888
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 3: Chad Powers. Eight years after flushing his promising college football

889
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: career down the toilet, hotshot quarterback Russ Holliday tries to

890
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: resurrect his dreams by disguising himself as Chad Power. Is

891
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 3: a talented audball who walks on is struggling South Carol,

892
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 3: South Georgia Catfish Bay Catfish, South Georgia Catfish. Based on

893
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: Eli Manning's Eli's Places segment from ESPN and Omaha Productions,

894
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: this comedy event will take viewers by surprise with a

895
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: comeback story that everyone can relate to. Chad Powers is

896
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: now streaming with new episodes Tuesday on Hulu and Hulu

897
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 3: on Disney Plus. For bonus subscriber's terms apply. Listen. Have

898
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: we have you seen the late latest episode?

899
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 6: I have not?

900
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 4: Okay, I am I am fired up though that like

901
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: we were streaming too, and you saw a couple of

902
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 4: comments in the life chat being like, Yo, Chad Powers

903
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 4: is actually really good. Left. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's

904
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 4: it's tough to oversell it, but we genuinely feel like

905
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 4: this is a good show.

906
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, this show is genuinely good. So after they played Tennessee,

907
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 3: they beat Tennessee. The last episode that came out was

908
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: the Spooky They go to Spirit Halloween. He loses all

909
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 3: the stuff, they have to go chat. Russ Holladay gets

910
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 3: a gun and they end up finding all the stuff

911
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 3: on the floor. The getting back to the hotel where

912
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: he sees the girl. What's the girl's name again, Ricky

913
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: Ricky don't know why I always forget that. Ricky Ricky

914
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 3: and Russ Holliday, not Chad Power, see each other at

915
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 3: the elevator and Ricky's like, oh, I know who you are,

916
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 3: blah blah blah. They go back and forth where you

917
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: see like one of his little lingering at the elevator

918
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: for a minute and she's coming up to do bed checks.

919
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: He runs up. They end up getting saved. That next

920
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: day they beat the Tennessee Volunteers. So this next episode

921
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 3: that takes place, they are five and zero. They're ranked

922
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 3: like top ten in the Country or something like that.

923
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: And College Game Day is trying to do a like

924
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: interview that featured Peace on Chad Powers to where Chad's like,

925
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: you know, having a really hard time. He's throwing up

926
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: during it. It's it's a it's a whole deal deal

927
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 3: one of the top quotes.

928
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 4: Remember we said like the Wolves was a great one.

929
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, They're like, who's like really influenced you? And he

930
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 7: just looks he's like Benjamin Franklin.

931
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 4: So they talk him into it.

932
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 3: You see Ricky starting to lin Chad Powers a little bit.

933
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: But does Ricky like Chad Powers if she knows he's

934
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 3: Russ Holiday. It's a whole back and forth.

935
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 6: Man.

936
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: They have a nice little moment while they're watching film together.

937
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 3: Great show, well done show. Chad Powers. Russ Holiday decides

938
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 3: to himself in this show, which we don't see any

939
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 3: further down at that the only reason why bad things

940
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 3: happened to Russ Holliday is because he's Russ Holliday. If

941
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,399
Speaker 3: he's always Chad Powers from here on out, it seems

942
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: like only good things happen at Chad Powers. So he's

943
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 3: essentially saying, I'm no longer Russ Holiday. Chad Powers is

944
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: who I am. He's even looking up like how to

945
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 3: get plastic surgery to change his face looks like that forever.

946
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,320
Speaker 3: And so now he's having this identity crisis turmoil, bipolar

947
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 3: type multi personality thing that's taking place back and forth.

948
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 4: Oh, I love that.

949
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: So it's gonna it's a it's fun.

950
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,280
Speaker 7: There is a crazy wrinkle in this episode.

951
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 4: We won't spoil it for yeah, don't don't spoil. Don't spoil.

952
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 4: Even even Taylor talking about that right there. I'm not

953
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that's a spoiler, but I'm just thinking

954
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 4: in my head, like the riders, what a platform and

955
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 4: stage for these riders to like make something out of

956
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: something that again we'll say again people felt like it

957
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: was like beating a dead horse with the Chad powers

958
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,719
Speaker 4: he like manning stuff and it's like, what is this?

959
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: What is this Hulu show? And it's honestly it's a

960
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 4: good show.

961
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 3: Delete that highlight thing so Will doesn't see Okay, yes, yeah,

962
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 3: delete that because body, I forgot about that.

963
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 4: Here's the same holiday takes somebody down.

964
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 3: I'll say that takes down a that's almost say.

965
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 4: Here's the segment that we do have from the show

966
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 4: It's called a Fresh Set of Downs segment where we

967
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: spot where we spotlight one transfer portal player current or

968
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 4: past who wasn't playing ballwell or was buried on the

969
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 4: depth chart and all they needed was a fresh set

970
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 4: of downs in order to spark their redemption story and

971
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 4: turn their college careers around. This week's Fresh Set of

972
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 4: Downs segment Player of the Week is Cade McConnell, Vanderbilt

973
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: offensive lineman, the left guard of the show. Friend of

974
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 4: the Show franchise, was the number ten player in Oklahoma

975
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 4: valedictorian in high school, went to Minnesota, originally transferred from

976
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Speaker 4: Minnesota to Vandy, and he's one of the best offensive

977
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 4: guards in the country. We have a little clip that

978
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 4: we can show you where he is body bagging LSU Tigers.

979
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 4: Kate McConnell was also summer intern for busting with the boys.

980
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, summer intern of busts with the boys, probably, and

981
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 3: it's your first time seeing them. Mitch was beneath him,

982
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 3: Internship valedictorian, the whole thing. No disrespect all of us,

983
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 3: but also disrespect all he's.

984
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: Kate is kind of the one who helped catapult the

985
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 4: entire internship program Operation YEA because he was DM and US,

986
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 4: but he was demon Sharham to where Sherm kind of

987
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 4: had like, Hey, I see that there's this there's this

988
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 4: old lineman at Vanderbilt. He's been talking about me about

989
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,680
Speaker 4: an internship, like he needs a certain credit or something

990
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: like that could be fun because he plays college football.

991
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 4: He's at Vanderbilt. They had a good year last year.

992
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 4: They could be tough this year. Dude seems like he

993
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 4: would love to be for the brand. Says he'll do

994
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,720
Speaker 4: whatever it takes, whatever whatever he can do for the brand.

995
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: We hire guys like in operations, in production and social

996
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 4: like specific people like in those lanes, and we were

997
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: kind of just adding like, yeah, we were gonna do

998
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 4: kid the whole time. He was kind of gonna just

999
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 4: be our football guy who joined the boys. But he

1000
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 4: came in and he was like the most surprising. We

1001
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 4: hired a few people from that litter, but he was

1002
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 4: like a stud. Yeah, like some you just wouldn't expect, like, okay,

1003
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 4: offensive lineman he's doing for credit. He'll be fun, banter,

1004
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,439
Speaker 4: he'll be good around the vibes, he'll be good around

1005
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 4: the shop. But he's cutting clips. He's doing everything. Yo,

1006
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 4: He's you're gonna be special.

1007
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 3: No job, too big, no drop too small. Guys on scholarship.

1008
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,520
Speaker 3: He's at Vandy. They're a hot team. He's getting an

1009
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 3: al money and he comes in here and acts like

1010
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 3: he's doing janitorial things. He's cutting clips, he's doing literally

1011
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 3: whatever it takes to be.

1012
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 4: One of the boys.

1013
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable. Can we break down this play for a saying?

1014
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: Can go go to the beginning of this play. This

1015
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: is a special play by Kate mccaudley. You see, they

1016
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 3: got little, so they're like in this like three four

1017
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,959
Speaker 3: look right now, So they're fanning out the left tackle

1018
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 3: and left guard. Kate McConnell's playing left guard. They're fanning out.

1019
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 3: So these two guys are man the end who's a

1020
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: four eye. He's going to go out towards the tackle,

1021
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 3: basically allowing kid to go back in. But Cad played

1022
00:44:46,480 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: a little bit the way he body bags this four

1023
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 3: eye technique. Go ahead, let him bank him bank And

1024
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: then right here, that's amazing. You see the will linebacker

1025
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 3: he's dropped in the coverage, so you know he just

1026
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 3: haves that you're left tackle. That's a win for him

1027
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 3: on that side. He could essentially be done and just

1028
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 3: kind of hold space. The fact that he's going in

1029
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: to handle the center after that too, because you know

1030
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 3: a lot of times when one guy drops another way,

1031
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 3: there could be blitzers coming the opposite way, so you

1032
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 3: have to bang a lot of guys back. This is

1033
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:13,240
Speaker 3: heady football.

1034
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 4: This is valid.

1035
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 3: Victorian football type shit right here. That gets me juiced

1036
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 3: up because he's violent. The thing that fires me up

1037
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 3: is his feet are incredible here. He's got extension on

1038
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 3: his punch. He's violent with his punch without getting over

1039
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: his toes, and he's banging back. And when you're banging back,

1040
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 3: you're not like taking over the block, so you can

1041
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 3: throw that shoulder into it. Football porn. That's football porn.

1042
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 3: Where he gets six to midnight. That's you talking about

1043
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 3: forty nine from Minnesota last week. And I know the situation,

1044
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 3: but like you brought that up on a stream where

1045
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:45,359
Speaker 3: you're like, that's football porn.

1046
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 4: You're definitely intentionally going out of your way right there

1047
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 4: to bring up forty nine. There's no you didn't have

1048
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: to do it.

1049
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 6: Mighty Well talks about Luke.

1050
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is I don't know where's yourself? That's not true.

1051
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 3: But go ahead.

1052
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,840
Speaker 4: I don't know where he's ranked on the NFL or

1053
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 4: anything else, because I know he's junior, he's got another

1054
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: year and all that. But if there are scouts that

1055
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 4: are watching tape, whether they're watching Diego or whatever cats

1056
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 4: they're watching at Vanderbilt or on the defensive side for LSU,

1057
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 4: and they're watching this game, that right, there is a

1058
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 4: clip to where it's like, say, he's not in the

1059
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 4: top ten whatever it is. That's one where it's like,

1060
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 4: who is this kid? Right? And his name starts to

1061
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 4: get in some conversation, and if he puts some consistency

1062
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 4: behind that, like this is a clip you will see

1063
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: on draft night, on draft day whenever he does get

1064
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: picked in to look at him here as a junior

1065
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,760
Speaker 4: against LSU's defense.

1066
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 6: Yes, is I may be.

1067
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 8: Wrong here, but I feel like I've heard some Joe

1068
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 8: Moore talks about Vandy's offensive line.

1069
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 3: Could be they're playing playing credible, man, they're playing amazing.

1070
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 4: I don't know if the stats are coming out of

1071
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,319
Speaker 4: the LSU game, but before the LSU game, they were

1072
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 4: averaging over six yards per rush, which was number one

1073
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 4: in the country. Unbelievable.

1074
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:54,760
Speaker 7: What's crazy about Vandy z oh line and Caid in general.

1075
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 7: Is he switchessides each like every other player.

1076
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: Which is he doesn't play just right guard or left guard.

1077
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 7: They switch all the time. So within a one series

1078
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 7: he could take three four snaps at left guard, three

1079
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 7: four snaps of right guard.

1080
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 4: Dude, that's insane. That is that is. I kind of

1081
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 4: hate that he had another You hate that, but I

1082
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,280
Speaker 4: just love how it's like he's just thinking, just fucking

1083
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 4: have me in the game.

1084
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 7: Like they move the tackle too, they bring the guard

1085
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 7: and the tackle, so like that, he sticks with the

1086
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 7: one guy. They just switch each time. It's the way

1087
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 7: Vandy runs their offense.

1088
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 3: That's crazy what they need to do with Katy mcconelly's

1089
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 3: a transfer to Michian next year if he's got one

1090
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 3: more year.

1091
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 9: I was gonna say, we're watching Vandy LSU and my

1092
00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 9: dad was going.

1093
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 4: Hey, that's the girl's guide, that's Cad.

1094
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 9: That's seventy That sprung u diego for that touchdown run

1095
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 9: they had up the left sideline. Yeah, he had a

1096
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 9: nasty block.

1097
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,480
Speaker 4: On that one too. He was head hunt.

1098
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 3: It was flowing right there.

1099
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's another clip of him going viral too when

1100
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 7: he pulled from right guard and he came down and

1101
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 7: just completely ran someone.

1102
00:47:55,840 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 3: Overs are getting some love about this clip. Two years ago,

1103
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 3: when LSU played at Vandy, there was an l s

1104
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 3: U offensive lineman who essentially did the same thing to

1105
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 3: Vanity Defense. And it's cool to see that script flipped.

1106
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 3: And it's even cool that's our guy that did it.

1107
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,680
Speaker 4: And I hope too that this photo is what's kind

1108
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 4: of sitting here while we talk about them, because just

1109
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 4: look at demon just a specimen specimen next the caid

1110
00:48:19,480 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 4: A couple of dogs out there.

1111
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 6: That just makes you realize, how is.

1112
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy that those are to the same things.

1113
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 3: Those are both humans, right, Like those are both mammals

1114
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 3: or whatever whatever we are, Like, that's crazy.

1115
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 4: They're both of the human species, both males.

1116
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, like that those are both Like if this is

1117
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,439
Speaker 3: a litter of dogs, like that one's related to that one,

1118
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: like in some one way, shape or form, Like those

1119
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 3: things are related right there. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

1120
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they wan of the less little extra you know what,

1121
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 4: and both It's so funny you brought up the dog

1122
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 4: litter thing because if they were both.

1123
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 3: Looking like little cat blocked on those forward letters at

1124
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 3: the at the beginning. Huh shirm, that was your joke.

1125
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 3: SHRMP told me that joke before anybody who gets mad

1126
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: at me for that joke. Yeah yeah, well yeah one, yeah,

1127
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 3: one's got more sapient than the other.

1128
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: The dog litter analogy that you use, they would both

1129
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 4: if they were shopping for dogs, Cad would be picking

1130
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 4: the one that looked like Cad and Jared would for

1131
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 4: sure be picking the one that looked like Jared. He's like,

1132
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 4: let me give that one a chance. Let me take

1133
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: this one home. Yeah, he's cute here. You just need

1134
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: some cuddling.

1135
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 8: He can jump in, wants like like a big fucking dog, Jared,

1136
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 8: I'll take the little.

1137
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, little scamper, a little scamper over here.

1138
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 6: You know.

1139
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 4: Demon swinging it in the air right now, just thinking

1140
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: he's got it. What he's got a German shepherd, doesn't he?

1141
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, German shepherd. He's got miss miss Pickles, what's

1142
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 3: his Uh, he's.

1143
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 4: Got a couple of bigger dogs. Miss huskis shout up,

1144
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 4: Miss biscuits Husky.

1145
00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 10: Uh?

1146
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 4: Did we want to get into Drew Brees. He'll be

1147
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 4: in on with this any second. Do we have anything

1148
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 4: else we want to hit in the intro any pet peeves,

1149
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,280
Speaker 4: any anything.

1150
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, shout out no free shout out this weather it

1151
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,280
Speaker 6: finally broke. It's here.

1152
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, I got a pet peeve. On the flight home,

1153
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 3: there was a family. There's a little kid behind me

1154
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 3: that was just kicking my chair the whole time. All good, Like,

1155
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 3: I know what it's like to have children on a flight,

1156
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 3: and that to me, it's like, listen, this it's an hour.

1157
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 3: It's an hour flight. I can handle this little massage

1158
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 3: chair in the back just kicking me back and forth.

1159
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: That's no problem. But I look back for a second.

1160
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: The mom she's just staring at her phone while this

1161
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 3: kid's doing that. And that's why I'm thinking to myself, Honey,

1162
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,320
Speaker 3: we got to teach these kids things. It's not the

1163
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,959
Speaker 3: kid's fault that he's taking the thing, because he doesn't

1164
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 3: know he's doing the wrong thing.

1165
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 4: Right now.

1166
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 3: The dad notices after.

1167
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 4: He is I think he's Indian.

1168
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 3: He was something. He was something. He had a hard,

1169
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 3: hard accent on it. And we golded off the flight

1170
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 3: and he goes, I'm not gonna do the accent. I'm

1171
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: not gonna do the accent. He looks at me and

1172
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 3: he goes, my kid, my kid was kicking in the

1173
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 3: back of your chair. And I was like, oh, yeah,

1174
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 3: it's no bed there. He goes, I'm not sorry, and

1175
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 3: I was like, you're you're not sorry, and he goes,

1176
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 3: I'm not sorry. And I was like, I assume there's

1177
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 3: a language barrier going on here. That's a crazy thing

1178
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 3: to say. But by pepieve was that mom on her phone.

1179
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think he probably was sorry.

1180
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,919
Speaker 4: He probably was. He probably had to be. I had

1181
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 4: to be.

1182
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 3: He said, I'm not sorry. I'm thinking you're just you're

1183
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 3: accidentally just putting a not in there. He was more

1184
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 3: he was more of a stone face killer. Yeah, he's

1185
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 3: more of a stone face.

1186
00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 6: He definitely was not sorry. He was just trying to

1187
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 6: be a dick.

1188
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 3: Why But I didn't say nothing. I was just chilling.

1189
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 10: Man.

1190
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 6: I think I think it's because, like you did you

1191
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 6: like turn around?

1192
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I gave it. I was sitting there

1193
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: and I had the little gap right here and I'm

1194
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 3: looking I'm talking to I'm talking to Will, and I

1195
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 3: kind of gave like a peak, like I went like

1196
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 3: a little peak Ski, and I just see the mom

1197
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 3: chinned up doing our thing, and I thought that's kind

1198
00:51:58,040 --> 00:51:58,360
Speaker 3: of crazy.

1199
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 8: I feel like when you learn the English language, you know,

1200
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 8: like not that's like in Borat, like you learn what

1201
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 8: there you go?

1202
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 4: Boy?

1203
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, if anything, the word not was a mainstay for him.

1204
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 6: What you learned?

1205
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 4: What not?

1206
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 10: Me?

1207
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: Yeah? Maybe funck that guy?

1208
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 4: Dude, No, I'm with you.

1209
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 3: You know what I did? Didn't say ship got off

1210
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 3: the plane? Got off the plane? Yeah? What may I do?

1211
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 3: Beat up some Indian dude? Any who's getting uh?

1212
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 4: Drew Brees, Drew Brees, Drew Brees and Zach Bond. All right, gentlemen.

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00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,719
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1223
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: You got me, Yeah, we got you?

1224
00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: Got me? All right?

1225
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 4: What's going on, dude?

1226
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm looking over this and I obviously am very familiar

1227
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 3: with your career. But super Bowl Champion, super Bowl forty four,

1228
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 3: thirteen time pro bowler, two thousand and four, NFL ap Player, Comeby,

1229
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,360
Speaker 3: Player of the Year two thousand and six, NFL Walter

1230
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 3: Payton Mann of the Year two thousand and eight, ap off,

1231
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 3: it's a Player of the Year, twenty eleven, NFL ap off.

1232
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,279
Speaker 3: It's a player of the year, like Buddy.

1233
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 4: I mean, he missed one. What I miss former teammate

1234
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 4: of Will Compton.

1235
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: So of all those accolades, talk to me about what

1236
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:43,720
Speaker 3: Will Compton did for you in your career.

1237
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: You know, just just lead by example, you know, I mean,

1238
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,480
Speaker 1: if there, I always always thought I was the first

1239
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: guy in last one to leave. But then this guy

1240
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: comes to town and just tries to show me up.

1241
00:53:54,560 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 4: Stop Drew him. That's him. That's us guys together making

1242
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 4: me look bad. Yeah, devastating, devastating.

1243
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,479
Speaker 3: Where should we start. Let's save a lot of ground

1244
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 3: to cover. Let's start at the beginning. Okay, let's start

1245
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 3: at the beginning. Talk to me about growing up getting

1246
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 3: no offers out of high school and ended up a

1247
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 3: boiler maker. Talked about that process.

1248
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:23,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I say this, Look, man, you grew up

1249
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: in the state of Texas. Obviously, football is away of life.

1250
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 4: Uh.

1251
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,360
Speaker 1: You know, for a lot of a lot of small towns.

1252
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: You know, everything shuts down for Friday night lights. You know,

1253
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: I definitely grew up in that atmosphere. My grandfather was

1254
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:40,360
Speaker 1: a long time high school football coach down at Gregory

1255
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: Portland High School, Portland, Texas, outside of Corpus Christie for

1256
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: thirty eight years. So you know, as a kid, we

1257
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: would spend our summers down there. Basically, me and my

1258
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: brother were water boys for his football teams. So as

1259
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: a kid, man, I love sports. I mean I was

1260
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: all ball, right, just a gym rat, football, basketball, baseball, Look,

1261
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, a track, cross country, tennis, soccer, like you

1262
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: name it, just any stick and ball. And honestly, going

1263
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: into high school, I was three sport athletes. So and

1264
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: if you asked me to put it in order of

1265
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: which sports were my favorite, and maybe that I was

1266
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: kind of best at, it was baseball, then basketball, and

1267
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: then football.

1268
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 4: So you can play on the basketball court.

1269
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was.

1270
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 4: I was.

1271
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 1: I would play the point, but there was a better

1272
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 1: point guard, so I played the two. I was a

1273
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: streating guard, but a baseball like I was the three

1274
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: hole hitter through right, battag left, played short, but there

1275
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: was a better short stop, so I played third. There's

1276
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: a theme here, you know, better guys. So I just

1277
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: shifted positions, you know. But yeah, batted three hole. Modeled

1278
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: my swing after King Griffey junior. Ted Williams was my

1279
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 1: favorite player of all time, the splendid splinter. So yeah,

1280
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: really it was like baseball was my trajectory. That's where

1281
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: I really thought I would end up, you know, hopefully

1282
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: having a chance to play the next level, either college

1283
00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: or get drafted. So even throughout high school, like I'm

1284
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: playing baseball, I'm playing basketball, and yeah I'm playing football,

1285
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: but you know, hey, I was starting B team quarterback

1286
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 1: on the freshman team and now I'm the backup on

1287
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: JV and I don't think I'm ever going to play.

1288
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:19,240
Speaker 1: And there was actually a moment my sophomore year midway

1289
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 1: through training camp, like hot Texas heat, brutal, my mom

1290
00:56:23,239 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: picks me up from practice and she can tell like,

1291
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm down with the dumps. We pull into the garage

1292
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:29,719
Speaker 1: and she's like, what's wrong. I'm like, Mom, I think

1293
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna quit football. Like, I just don't think this

1294
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: is my path. I feel like I'm kind of wasting

1295
00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: my time. Like I'm playing behind this guy who's a phenom,

1296
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 1: you know, and he's going to be the heir apparent

1297
00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: starter on varsity. So I'm just going to ride the

1298
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: bencher for the next couple of years. Why wouldn't I

1299
00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: just focus on baseball if that's where I really think

1300
00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,279
Speaker 1: my path is. And she's like, I mean, you know,

1301
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: do you do?

1302
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 10: You do?

1303
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: You love it? And I'm like, yeah, look, I love

1304
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: I love the competition. I love having the ball in

1305
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: my hands. I mean I love the quarterback you know, position,

1306
00:56:57,239 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: everything that comes along with it. Love being out there

1307
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: with my boys. But I just don't think I'm ever

1308
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: going to get a chance to play. And she's like,

1309
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: you never know when your opportunity will come, so just

1310
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 1: stick it out. But first off, you made the commitments

1311
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: for this year, Like, so you're locked in. We can

1312
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: reassess at the end of the year. But you never

1313
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 1: know when your opportunity will come. And so sure enough,

1314
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: a week later, like going into my JV sophomore season,

1315
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: where I was just going to ride the bench, the

1316
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: starter gets hurt in the final scrimmage. He tears his ACL,

1317
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: so man, he's out, and all of a sudden, I'm

1318
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: thrust into the starting job and the rest is kind

1319
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,200
Speaker 1: of history there with football, like it just it just

1320
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: took off. We ended up going ten and zeros at JV.

1321
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: I played, played really well, and then all of a sudden,

1322
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:37,560
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, you're like you're going to be

1323
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: the guy, Like you're going to be the starter on varsity.

1324
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: And ironically, like this is nineteen ninety five, we go

1325
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 1: into my junior season of high school football. I went

1326
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: to West Lake High School, Boston, Texas. It's a perennial powerhouse. Yeah,

1327
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 1: always quarter finals are beyond big school in state of Texas.

1328
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: But we had never won a state championship, Like we'd

1329
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: always gotten really really close, but number won one and

1330
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: like this was a year, like the best team we've

1331
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: ever had and we are rolling through the playoffs and

1332
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 1: in third round of the playoffs, I end up coming

1333
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: off of a bootleg, get hit, come down my knee buckles,

1334
00:58:12,640 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 1: and sure enough I've torn my ACL ACL MCL lateral meniscus.

1335
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 1: And so like all of a sudden, Now the whole

1336
00:58:20,880 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: reason I was starting was because this guy in front

1337
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 1: of me had done that, and I had taken his job.

1338
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: And so now all of a sudden, this happens to me.

1339
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: And this is like December of ninety five, and so

1340
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: or excuse me, it was December of ninety five, yep.

1341
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 1: And so now all of a sudden, not only did

1342
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: you know that kind of derails our playoff run, but

1343
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: then I missed the basketball season and I missed the

1344
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: baseball season. So and you're a junior, right, that's when

1345
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: you get recruited, right, that's your junior year where and

1346
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: this is what everybody's kind of looking at you and

1347
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: thinking about who they're going to offer and all that stuff.

1348
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 1: And look, I was not an impressive guy to look

1349
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: at price still, not six foot, one hundred and seventy pounds,

1350
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: right like, nothing, nothing prototype about that. And so then

1351
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,479
Speaker 1: even going into my senior season, you know, I gained

1352
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,120
Speaker 1: about twenty pounds just from working out in the rehab

1353
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: process and all that stuff. To come back, but still

1354
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: six foot one ninety five running a five two eight

1355
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 1: boys five two eight forty with the big, clunky knee brace.

1356
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 1: I was not a real impressive guy to look at,

1357
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that the recruiting coordinators canna go

1358
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: and be like, hey, man, I got a gym for us.

1359
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, six ft one ninety he runs up

1360
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: five to eight with a big old knee brace. You're

1361
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: gonna love this kid.

1362
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah. Do you feel like offers and stuff would have

1363
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 4: been there had you not torn your acl because again

1364
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 4: you're like you did you go on to winn State

1365
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:42,840
Speaker 4: Tunnle your senior year?

1366
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, look, we like, I guess the the accolades were there, right,

1367
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: like we went sixteen and oh we want a state

1368
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: championship and the biggest school in the state of Texas.

1369
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 4: Yes I was.

1370
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,880
Speaker 1: I was the five A offensive player of the Year

1371
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 1: in the state of Texas.

1372
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:57,120
Speaker 4: Yes, right, big, So.

1373
00:59:57,040 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: All that would tell you, okay, man, maybe he's got

1374
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: a little something. Yeah. But again, like I think everybody

1375
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 1: at times gets pretty enthralled with the measurables, right like

1376
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: the prototype look, and I was certainly not that guy

1377
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 1: like I was.

1378
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:13,560
Speaker 10: I was.

1379
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: I was I was a multi sport athlete, right, so

1380
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: I was. I mean, I think if you just kind

1381
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,919
Speaker 1: of looked at it the way people look at it now,

1382
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 1: I think that's a really attractive thing now, is that

1383
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: they look at, hey, does this kid guy play other sports?

1384
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: Says you just know how to ball, knows how to ball,

1385
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 1: loves competition, that sort of thing. I think I checked

1386
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: all the boxes there, but certainly the measurables weren't weren't there,

1387
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: And so when it came down to it, I ended

1388
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 1: up getting recruited by two schools. It was Purdue in Kentucky,

1389
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,400
Speaker 1: and the situations there were that both of them had

1390
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:48,480
Speaker 1: new coaching staffs. So with Kentucky how Mummy, I don't

1391
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 1: know if you remember this, how Mummy. He was kind

1392
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 1: of part of that air raid offense and that was

1393
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 1: really starting to take off, like mid nineties. He came

1394
01:00:55,600 --> 01:01:00,160
Speaker 1: from Valdosta State to Kentucky and the quarterback in Kentucky

1395
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: at that time was Tim Couch. So Tim Couch was

1396
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 1: my host to on my visit to Kentucky. And basically,

1397
01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: like these guys kind of painted the picture for me.

1398
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 1: First of all, they were like, you can play football

1399
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: and baseball. Here, you're gonna come in. You're gonna back

1400
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: up Tim Couch because nobody's beating this dude out. He's

1401
01:01:16,880 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: a phenom. Right, he's gonna he's gonna he's gonna play

1402
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,280
Speaker 1: for two more years, so you're gonna red shirt back

1403
01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,400
Speaker 1: him up, and then he's gonna leave early for the draft.

1404
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: He'll be the first pick, and then you're gonna start

1405
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: for three years at Kentucky and you're gonna play baseball.

1406
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, that that actually sounds pretty that

1407
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,439
Speaker 1: sounds deal.

1408
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, And then I go to Purdue and Purdue had

1409
01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:39,480
Speaker 11: Joe Tiller who just came from Wyoming and they were

1410
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:44,440
Speaker 11: running the spread offense, and he said that they they

1411
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 11: were going to recruit me at Wyoming, but they're like,

1412
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 11: there's no way we're gonna get this kid up to Wyoming.

1413
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 11: But then when he got to Purdue and it was

1414
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 11: big ten, you know, maybe a little bit bigger program,

1415
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,919
Speaker 11: I was like, Okay, now we can go after him.

1416
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: But he was shocked to hear that. I didn't have

1417
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 1: any offers really, so it came out of Purdue Kentucky,

1418
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 1: and I chose Purdue mainly because of the academic reputation,

1419
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: but also playing in the Big Ten. The quarterback prior

1420
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: to us was a guy named Jay Rogers. He's actually

1421
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,040
Speaker 1: the d line coach for the New Orleans Saints right now.

1422
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: He was our quarterback for west Lake High School. He

1423
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 1: went to Indiana University. So I you and I played

1424
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: with his brothers and so we would like get together

1425
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 1: on the weekends to watch him play. And I'm watching

1426
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:27,120
Speaker 1: him play against Michigan and Ohio State and like all

1427
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:30,240
Speaker 1: the big boys, and at the time, like Big Ten was,

1428
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean, all those schools I think was where everybody

1429
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: aspired to go and play, you know, with her against Yeah,

1430
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: And so I remember seeing that saying, all right, I

1431
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 1: get I mean you're telling me I get to play

1432
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 1: against Notre Day, Michigan, Ohiose State, Penn State, Wisconsin every

1433
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: year and get a great education. And I was like,

1434
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: sign me up. That's why I chose Purdue.

1435
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 4: Did that as awesome? What are there were there any

1436
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 4: other moments, like clearly you were able to that that

1437
01:02:55,640 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 4: moment you had you said, what was that with your

1438
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 4: mom or she was asking you saying you're gonna finish

1439
01:02:59,280 --> 01:03:00,720
Speaker 4: out the rest of the year, you have that moment

1440
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 4: with your mom, and then your opportunity kind of comes

1441
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 4: and you're kind of forwarded to the fire on understanding

1442
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 4: these lessons at a young age, Like, were there any

1443
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 4: lessons or moments during your time at Purdue that carried

1444
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 4: you into the NFL as well to where maybe you

1445
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: got tested or maybe it was another moment that you're

1446
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 4: able to look back on and see that, Hey, I'm

1447
01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 4: glad I stayed true to the process here.

1448
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:21,640
Speaker 10: Yeah.

1449
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I mean so many similarities, Like you know, high school.

1450
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 1: I talked about Westlake High School, Like, we moved into

1451
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,680
Speaker 1: that district my freshman year, and ironically it was because

1452
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: my mom, like we lived all over Austin in a

1453
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,680
Speaker 1: bunch of different parts of town. My parents had gotten

1454
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: divorced when we moved to Austin, so it's kind of

1455
01:03:40,840 --> 01:03:42,920
Speaker 1: a tough time early, just as they were kind of

1456
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: trying to find, you know, their rhythm and and but

1457
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, my mom looked around

1458
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,520
Speaker 1: and said, Okay, what's the best high school that's going

1459
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: to put my kids in the best position to succeed

1460
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:56,720
Speaker 1: athletically academically. So she chose WESTLEYK High School's basically all right,

1461
01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: I'm moving into the district so you can go to

1462
01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 1: school here. And I remember showing up that day one

1463
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: my freshman year of high school and literally they were like, okay,

1464
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: who wants to play quarterback? And like forty hands went

1465
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: up in the air, including mine, and I looked around

1466
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, dude, I am never going to

1467
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: touch the field. Right. It was kind of similar to Perdue, Like, yeah,

1468
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: I get recruited, but I get recruited alongside two other quarterbacks,

1469
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: right that were highly touted guys from the Midwest, big

1470
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: time recruits coming to play in the spread offense. Right,

1471
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 1: Like that was the big Lawrie, We're gonna throw a

1472
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: fifty times a game. And I show up, so there's

1473
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: seven guys there to play quarterback my true freshman year.

1474
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,040
Speaker 1: So once again it's like, oh gosh, you know I'm

1475
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 1: gonna end up, you know, holding being at tackling dummy

1476
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,960
Speaker 1: here for a few years, right, maybe even get the

1477
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 1: chance to step on the field. Well, I ended up

1478
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: kind of becoming a backup quarterback to a fifth year

1479
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 1: senior my true freshman year and played in about seven

1480
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: or eight games, one of those being in a critical

1481
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: moment against Michigan State. Nick Saban was the head coach there,

1482
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: like our guy was not playing, benched him. They put

1483
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: me in. I'm kind of like, you know, the young

1484
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,360
Speaker 1: freshman going to come and start slanging it. I had

1485
01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: no idea what I was doing. I threw a ball

1486
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: against tip gets intercepted. They pulled me back out, put

1487
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 1: the fifthyar senior in. Ironically, we go down and score

1488
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: like two touchdowns and win the game. But but like

1489
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: plenty of moments there where man, you're just you're just

1490
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 1: questioning whether you belong you know, I think that there's

1491
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 1: always especially those moments as you kind of tick up levels,

1492
01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: you know, from high school to college to the pros,

1493
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: they have those moments of like, man, like a little

1494
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: bit of self doubt, like do I belong here? And

1495
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,120
Speaker 1: it's a bit overwhelming, and it and it and it

1496
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: is where you just have to It's like you got

1497
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: to just trust your training and trust your instincts and

1498
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,560
Speaker 1: trust the process and you know a lot of a

1499
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: lot of self belief, but also just you know, the

1500
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: overcoming of adversity and feeling like if you do things

1501
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: the right way, good things are going to happen. And

1502
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: and then and then you get to the point where

1503
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: you almost man. You embrace, embrace the adversity, you embrace

1504
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:58,080
Speaker 1: the challenges. Look there there there were some defining moments

1505
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: in in college. I say one of the biggest ones

1506
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: was I ended up winning the starting job my sophomore year.

1507
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,760
Speaker 1: So we open up the year at USC kind of

1508
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 1: a big, big moment first start in the coliseum against

1509
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: the USC Trojans in nineteen ninety eight. We end up

1510
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,200
Speaker 1: losing that game, but I kind of felt like, okay, man,

1511
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I can do this. And then we

1512
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,480
Speaker 1: end up playing I think it was Central Florida and Rice.

1513
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:25,959
Speaker 1: We get wins there, and then all of a sudden,

1514
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:27,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of like leading up to this big game

1515
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: at Notre Dame. Notre Dame is top ten and this

1516
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,439
Speaker 1: is like dream come true, like going to play at

1517
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: Notre Dame. Ye, I'm a sophomore, like this was one

1518
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: of the whole reasons that I chose to come to

1519
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: Purdue was to be able to play in games like this.

1520
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 1: And for fifty eight minutes of that game, I play

1521
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: absolutely lights out, like I just like I blacked out

1522
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: and just and we end up like we're beating the

1523
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: top top ten team in the country as little old

1524
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 1: Perdue coming into Notre Dame. And then unfortunately in the

1525
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 1: last two minutes, like we're just trying to just ice

1526
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: the game, just get one first down, Notre Dame spurning timeout.

1527
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 1: So we get to third and ten and Coach kind

1528
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 1: of kind of like, hey, I'm going to call a

1529
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: pass play. I'm putting this thing in your hands, like

1530
01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 1: let's go get this first time and go win this game.

1531
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: And it was kind of like one of these rollout plays,

1532
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,520
Speaker 1: and I'm throwing the ball over the middle to a

1533
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 1: guy and I just let the ball sail a little

1534
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,160
Speaker 1: bit hot and it kind of tips off his fingertips

1535
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:22,240
Speaker 1: and Tony Driver, the free safety, picks it off, runs

1536
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 1: it back to like the two yard line, they kick

1537
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 1: a field goal to take the lead, and then we

1538
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 1: have another now two minute drive to try to go

1539
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 1: win it, and I throw another pick, So basically two

1540
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:35,760
Speaker 1: picks in the final two minutes. And dude, when I say, well,

1541
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:38,080
Speaker 1: first off crew had one at Notre Dame in like

1542
01:07:38,120 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: thirty years, Okay. And so I'm sitting here looking at

1543
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: all the seniors in the locker room and everybody's like crying,

1544
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,080
Speaker 1: and just you know, like we had fought so stinking

1545
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:47,320
Speaker 1: hard and I was sitting there going, dude, you are

1546
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 1: responsible for this pain, right, you know what I mean?

1547
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 3: Like we all have these.

1548
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like and then but and then we insult injury.

1549
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: Like we we now ride the bus back to the Purdue.

1550
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,640
Speaker 1: We bust up to South Bend for this game. It's

1551
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:07,400
Speaker 1: only like two and a half hours away. So I'm

1552
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,680
Speaker 1: riding the bus back to Purdue and I'm literally just

1553
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: staring out at the cornfields you know in Indiana, and

1554
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm just like, all right, this is like you have

1555
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: a choice here, right, Like you can just go in

1556
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:22,040
Speaker 1: the tank as a result of what just happened. Where

1557
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: you can you know, freaking bow up, stiff upper lip

1558
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:26,559
Speaker 1: man and show these guys what you're made of.

1559
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 10: Right.

1560
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: And so look, a tough week of practice, but it

1561
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 1: was just like, lock in focus. This has to be

1562
01:08:31,200 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: your best performance. And then we come out against Minnesota

1563
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 1: and I think I went thirty one to thirty six

1564
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:40,160
Speaker 1: for five hundred and twenty two yards and six touchdowns.

1565
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every single game record in for new history.

1566
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: That next game, and it was kind of like one

1567
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 1: of these misty, eerie day like Midwest fall days. But

1568
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:51,320
Speaker 1: it was just like it all kind of came together

1569
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: and it was one of those I don't know, it

1570
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: was like those one of those proven moments to myself.

1571
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: They're like, you can, you can, you can overcome one

1572
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 1: of these kind of devastating os that mentally could really

1573
01:09:01,360 --> 01:09:01,880
Speaker 1: mess with.

1574
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 4: You, right, absolutely devastating to come back.

1575
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,360
Speaker 1: To that next week and just and absolutely put your

1576
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,519
Speaker 1: best foot forward. And I don't know, I just it

1577
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:09,679
Speaker 1: proved a lot to myself.

1578
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, two pigs in those last two drives, You're you're

1579
01:09:12,160 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 4: definitely you're trying to the game. Yeah, trying. You're putting

1580
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 4: that entire game on yourself. Like, fuck, maybe I am

1581
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 4: who they think.

1582
01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 3: I am, right right, Maybe maybe my mom was wrong.

1583
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,719
Speaker 3: I should have just played baseball and you're going way

1584
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 3: back in all time, Yeah I should I should have

1585
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 3: quit the whole entire time. Dude, What was like being

1586
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,240
Speaker 3: a sophomore and having that happen at the end of

1587
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 3: the Notre Dame game? Were there any like seniors? How

1588
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 3: was the leadership in that building at that time? Were

1589
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 3: they like come up to you and checking you, putting

1590
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,120
Speaker 3: their hand on your shoulder, But hey, it's going to

1591
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 3: be all right or was it like leave the kid

1592
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,600
Speaker 3: alone and see what he does. No one's coming to

1593
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 3: save you vibes.

1594
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,040
Speaker 1: No, I would say we had we have pretty good

1595
01:09:48,200 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: We had good culture on that team, and we had

1596
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:51,800
Speaker 1: a good group of guys, and honestly, we had we

1597
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 1: had We had guys that had been kind of beaten

1598
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: down for a while, you know, like Perdue hadn't had

1599
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 1: a lot of success, you know up to that point,

1600
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:02,280
Speaker 1: you know, fifteen straight losing seasons or something like that,

1601
01:10:02,360 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: and just a lot of dysfunction. You know, when Joe

1602
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: Tiller got there, he had cleaned house on a lot

1603
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: of guys. You know, like that was a really tough

1604
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,320
Speaker 1: first you know, spring ball, where he was honestly trying

1605
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:17,280
Speaker 1: to run some guys out right and just make sure

1606
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:19,600
Speaker 1: that he kind of kept the right guys. And so

1607
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,040
Speaker 1: everybody who was there like had earned their right to

1608
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: be there, and it was because they were great leaders

1609
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: and we're great you know, they had formed the culture

1610
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 1: and so man, I did have plenty of guys that

1611
01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: put their arm mom and like, hey man, we got you,

1612
01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 1: we believe in you, and obviously that means a lot.

1613
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,880
Speaker 1: But also knew I had to prove it to him.

1614
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, so just for more context, everybody that already knows

1615
01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 4: Drew Brees, but just gonna say it again. Six foot

1616
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 4: you know less than two hundred pounds. Around two hundred pounds,

1617
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,040
Speaker 4: You tear your acl. You gotta bum you gotta bum

1618
01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 4: ACL over five seconds in the forty you still get

1619
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:00,360
Speaker 4: drafted in the second round to the chargers tear the

1620
01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 4: ship out of your shoulder. Can you give us a

1621
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,799
Speaker 4: look inside your mental your mind during that process, because

1622
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 4: in your career, in your journey, you've had to trust

1623
01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:12,799
Speaker 4: your instincts, You've had to stay true to your beliefs,

1624
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 4: what you believe in everything else. Can you give us

1625
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,759
Speaker 4: a look inside that moment when you tore your shoulder

1626
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,599
Speaker 4: with the chargers and how close you were to potentially

1627
01:11:19,640 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 4: not playing ever again. I think you failed to physical

1628
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:25,439
Speaker 4: later on as well, Like, give us a look inside

1629
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,480
Speaker 4: of that story of overcoming that adversity.

1630
01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:34,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, uh, that was uh at the time, man,

1631
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 1: that was that was about as devastating as it gets

1632
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 1: because that was that was truly a moment where I

1633
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 1: felt like my dream was just being ripped away, Like, uh,

1634
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: that I would that I would never play football again.

1635
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:51,960
Speaker 1: And look my first five years with the San Diego Chargers, man,

1636
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: there were there were plenty of ups and downs. I

1637
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,639
Speaker 1: came in as a rookie and backed up Doug Flutie

1638
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,040
Speaker 1: for a year.

1639
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:00,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, which was tab Doug flute.

1640
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 1: As a guy to learn fromhim and as a mentor

1641
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: for four years because he ended up being backing me

1642
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:09,560
Speaker 1: up for three years. Was pivotal for me in my

1643
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 1: growth development and for my career. But during that stretch

1644
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:18,799
Speaker 1: where I was the starter, I was benched three times

1645
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: by Marty Schottenheimer for various reasons.

1646
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1647
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 1: Sometimes it was turning the ball over too much. Sometimes

1648
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,760
Speaker 1: it wasn't getting the job done. Sometimes it was just

1649
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:27,639
Speaker 1: hey we need to spark. I'm gonna throw Fluti in there.

1650
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:31,559
Speaker 1: But like, nonetheless, for a young guy who's working so

1651
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 1: hard to establish himself, you know, as the starter for

1652
01:12:34,280 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 1: a team and gain that respect and that belief from

1653
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: my teammates in the organization, man, that's a shot to

1654
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,200
Speaker 1: the ego, right And like, never had I had a

1655
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: moment in my career where I truly lost confidence. And

1656
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:50,160
Speaker 1: there was definitely a moment or two during that stretch

1657
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: where you would say, like I lost confidence like I

1658
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 1: was just not sure if I could get the job

1659
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 1: done right, and yet Man had battled through that, and

1660
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: you know, off season is just dedicating myself to being

1661
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: the very best leader that I could be quarterback, Like

1662
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: looking at my diet, my sleep pat is like I

1663
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,400
Speaker 1: was leaving no stone unturned and finally had kind of

1664
01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 1: reached this point four to five, We're okay, like I

1665
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: am now a good player in this league and I'm

1666
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,800
Speaker 1: clearly the starting quarterback of this team and earned the

1667
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 1: right to be the franchise quarterback for this organization. And

1668
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 1: then going into the very last game of the two

1669
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 1: thousand and five season, which was the end of my contract,

1670
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: so it was like, Okay, I've made it all the

1671
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:39,800
Speaker 1: way through. I've proven it, and now's the opportunity to

1672
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: get the commitment from the organization long term. You're our guy,

1673
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 1: despite the fact that they drafted Philip Rivers, you know,

1674
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:49,880
Speaker 1: two years previous, who is now my backup? Like, Man,

1675
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: I am going to be the guy. And then that

1676
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 1: very last game against the Denver Broncos, you know, I

1677
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 1: come out of a you know, a pile of jumping

1678
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: for a fumble and I have this dislocated right throwing shoulder.

1679
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: Literally my arm is stuck like this. It dislocated out

1680
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: the bottom and it was just stuck like that. So

1681
01:14:06,360 --> 01:14:08,800
Speaker 1: I remember walking to the sideline. It's kind of like

1682
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 1: one of these rainy days, and like, I like, my

1683
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:17,640
Speaker 1: body's in shot, but I know exactly what it is,

1684
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:20,320
Speaker 1: and I know the gravity of the situation, you know.

1685
01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 1: And I sat there as I'm walking off the field

1686
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 1: and I literally thought to myself, this the last time

1687
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm never going to put on a charge of uniform.

1688
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: And then I get to the sideline, I was like,

1689
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: you know, this maybe last time I ever played football game.

1690
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:34,120
Speaker 1: As the doc is like, you know, lethal weapons, sliding

1691
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:38,760
Speaker 1: my shoulder back into my socket and even, you know,

1692
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: a couple of days after that, like I go see

1693
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: doctor James Andrews, who was the preeminent you know, or

1694
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:45,759
Speaker 1: with the people surgeon down at Birmingham, Alabama, and literally

1695
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,479
Speaker 1: he's looking at me like, hey, you have so much

1696
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: swelling in that shoulder. I really don't know the extent

1697
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,320
Speaker 1: of the damage. Like just let me get in there

1698
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 1: and figure it out and then I'll kind of tell

1699
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,320
Speaker 1: you when it's done. So like literally, as I'm going

1700
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: under for surgery, I still don't know what's going to

1701
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:02,919
Speaker 1: happen or even the gravity the whole you know, injury.

1702
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:06,200
Speaker 1: And I end up coming out of the surgery and

1703
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,639
Speaker 1: he's like, well, you know, he goes like, if I

1704
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 1: if I had to do that surgery one hundred times,

1705
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't do as well as I just did it.

1706
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: That was this message to me. So I was like, Okay,

1707
01:15:13,200 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 1: that's what I want to hear. Doctor, Like what does

1708
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: that mean? He's like, he's like, look, you have a

1709
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 1: long road ahead of you. Like it's a minimum eight

1710
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 1: months before you're even going to ever start to be

1711
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 1: able to throw again. He's like, I put you back together,

1712
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: but man, this reheab process is going to be a

1713
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: bear and you're going to have to learn how to

1714
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 1: throw again, right. And there's kind of some non negotiables

1715
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: about the rehab as we go along here. I mean,

1716
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: I was trying to push the envelope as much as

1717
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:36,920
Speaker 1: I could. But here's something interesting that happened in that

1718
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 1: during that that that chain of events. So I actually

1719
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:44,280
Speaker 1: going into that last year, my agent had recommended that

1720
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: I get an insurance policy on my shoulder, I mean,

1721
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,439
Speaker 1: or basically just on my you know, my body, my career,

1722
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: right like, hey, you know, you have the chance to

1723
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,000
Speaker 1: sign a long term contract which should be worth a

1724
01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,559
Speaker 1: lot of money if something happens to you this year,

1725
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: she get a like a Woyds of London contract, uh

1726
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: insurance contract just in the event that something happens and

1727
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,640
Speaker 1: you can't play. So there was a moment where I

1728
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,760
Speaker 1: had to make a decision as to whether I was

1729
01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 1: going to collect the insurance policy and never play again,

1730
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 1: where I was going to attempt to play again and

1731
01:16:13,680 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: avoid the insurance policy, which.

1732
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:17,559
Speaker 4: I'm sure the insurance policy was probably a pretty hefty

1733
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 4: amount of.

1734
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 3: Care to share that number at all of what that

1735
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 3: insurance policy was to show.

1736
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,000
Speaker 1: I think it was like five million bucks. Here was

1737
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:27,280
Speaker 1: five million bucks that I could just take the five

1738
01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: million in the walk or or attempt to play again

1739
01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 1: and again. There was no guarantees right that that that

1740
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:37,800
Speaker 1: I would play again. But but I I was like,

1741
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 1: you know what ripped that thing up?

1742
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:39,200
Speaker 4: Man?

1743
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,960
Speaker 1: Like I just I feel like God's got me, and

1744
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:45,639
Speaker 1: this is this is even though this is the path

1745
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,760
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't choose, Like this is this is the

1746
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:50,720
Speaker 1: one I'm on and and and I'm going to be

1747
01:16:50,720 --> 01:16:53,799
Speaker 1: better for it, and I think that's that's that's really

1748
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 1: the way I look at that, a c L injury

1749
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 1: with my with my knee in high school. You know,

1750
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 1: at the time, I thought, Hey, this is that state,

1751
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:01,600
Speaker 1: and it's the worst thing ever could happen to me.

1752
01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm missing, you know, the basketball seat in the baseball seat.

1753
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get recruited. Like, yes, did it

1754
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,680
Speaker 1: alter my path? Maybe it did, but man, it molded me,

1755
01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: strengthened me. It made me stronger in my faith. It

1756
01:17:12,400 --> 01:17:17,280
Speaker 1: did so many things for my path and my direction

1757
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:20,600
Speaker 1: that you know at times that we leave it up

1758
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 1: to our own devices, you know, I think that's when,

1759
01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, we realized that, you know, God has us

1760
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:28,679
Speaker 1: right where he wants us, and it's all for a reason.

1761
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:30,120
Speaker 1: It's all meant to mold us in a lot of

1762
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 1: different ways. And both those injuries did that for me.

1763
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,200
Speaker 1: And look, I never would have ended up with the

1764
01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and had that incredible, incredible experience, incredible run,

1765
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 1: incredible journey that we had there over the course of

1766
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: fifteen years, and obviously that became about so much more

1767
01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 1: than just football. But I never had the chance to

1768
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 1: be a part of that if it wasn't for going

1769
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 1: through those things.

1770
01:17:48,760 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, how long did that rehab process take? In totality?

1771
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,640
Speaker 1: Man, the shoulder was a solid eight months. So, you know,

1772
01:17:56,760 --> 01:18:01,639
Speaker 1: surgery was early January, and literally I wasn't ready until

1773
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,760
Speaker 1: week one of the season, you know, so call it

1774
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 1: in early September. You know, I went through training camp,

1775
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 1: but I was on a pitch count, you know, so

1776
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,719
Speaker 1: I was, you know, kind of ramping up twenty throws

1777
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,840
Speaker 1: and then thirty throws and then forty throws, and I

1778
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: mean I can remember my first couple of throws. I'm

1779
01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:17,960
Speaker 1: sitting there throwing a slant and just dirting them, you know.

1780
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 1: And you know, you can ask Sean Payton. Sean Payton's

1781
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 1: looking at our quarterback coach who had been with me

1782
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,840
Speaker 1: in San Diego, and was like, hey, are we seeing

1783
01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 1: the best of him right now? And my QB coach

1784
01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,880
Speaker 1: would be like, hey, well there's more there, There's more there.

1785
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,920
Speaker 1: Just be patient. And truly it was one of those

1786
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:39,639
Speaker 1: things where it was like if I threw forty throws

1787
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: in a day, maybe two or three of them were good. Really,

1788
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:44,560
Speaker 1: then the next day it was four or five, and

1789
01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:46,320
Speaker 1: the next day it was five or six and then

1790
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: then seven, and that you know it just gradually each day,

1791
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 1: so truly trusting the process and not getting frustrated and

1792
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: just knowing that, man, it's just going to keep getting stronger.

1793
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: It's going to keep getting better. And the I rening

1794
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 1: with that whole thing is like, honestly, I I came

1795
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:08,360
Speaker 1: back so much stronger, like I'm saying, like a stronger arm,

1796
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 1: like a stronger lower half, like better mechanics, Like everything

1797
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 1: came back better. And it was probably a result of

1798
01:19:16,880 --> 01:19:21,400
Speaker 1: literally having to like rebuild the foundation for throwing again,

1799
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,759
Speaker 1: like literally having to learn how to throw the football again.

1800
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: So mechanically it was almost like, Okay, any deficiencies that

1801
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 1: I had before, I can correct them now because I'm

1802
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: literally like rewiring the system just to get back on

1803
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 1: the field again.

1804
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 3: I got a So I got kind of a two

1805
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:37,920
Speaker 3: part of here because we kind of brushed over the

1806
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 3: insurance policy a little bit. I want to know, like

1807
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,640
Speaker 3: who you talked to in that process, how long of

1808
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: a thought process it was before You're like, Lesten, five

1809
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,240
Speaker 3: million dollars sounds great, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep

1810
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 3: betting on me. And then also, how did we get

1811
01:19:51,479 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 3: to New Orleans from you know, having the shoulder surgery,

1812
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 3: playing your last game as a Charger.

1813
01:19:56,840 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's a main conversations with my wife and

1814
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: then with my agent. You know, my agent was Tom Condon,

1815
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: Old Tommy yep ye. So you know, I think it

1816
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,799
Speaker 1: was you know, with Tom like man. Tom was always

1817
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,200
Speaker 1: so just kind of poised, even keel like Tom. I

1818
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,880
Speaker 1: always felt like you talk about agent, do you just

1819
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 1: feel like has your back man at all times? And

1820
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 1: like I, I I think as devastated as we all were,

1821
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:29,759
Speaker 1: that I was just in that situation. I think Tom,

1822
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: if anything, gave me a ton of belief that that

1823
01:20:35,160 --> 01:20:37,400
Speaker 1: I could come back and and and not only play,

1824
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:39,960
Speaker 1: but play at a high level, you know, and and

1825
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: so it was just reinforcing what I what I wanted

1826
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: to hear, you know, I just I just wanted I

1827
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 1: just wanted to feel like I just had everybody in

1828
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,719
Speaker 1: my camp, you know, and everybody that was there to

1829
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: help push me to be you know, the best that

1830
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:57,240
Speaker 1: I could be. But but certainly, you know, just be unwavering,

1831
01:20:57,720 --> 01:20:59,640
Speaker 1: you know, in that belief. And he was one of

1832
01:20:59,680 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: those guys. Of course, my wife and so yeah, I

1833
01:21:04,320 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: think at the end of the day, it became an

1834
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: easy decision, like I'll always regret if I don't, you know,

1835
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: make a run at it, you know. But I think

1836
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: I think all that is to say that, like just

1837
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 1: the reality of the situation with my shoulder, Like if

1838
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 1: you ask doctor Andrews, he would tell you that he

1839
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: didn't think I was going to be able to come

1840
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 1: back and play again, even though he put it back

1841
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 1: together as good as he possibly could. It's like, just

1842
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: the probabilities are not good. I've just he had never

1843
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,920
Speaker 1: seen that injury in a throne ever, Like that was

1844
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:45,160
Speaker 1: a bull rider's injury when a bull rider gets his

1845
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:47,439
Speaker 1: arm caught in the rope. This is what he told me.

1846
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 1: That's what he sees. The dislocation out of the bottom. Right,

1847
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 1: that's gnarally, man, that's gnarly three hundred and sixty degree

1848
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,320
Speaker 1: tear of the labor. And so I had thirteen anchors

1849
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: in my shoulder. Like literally I would do rehab and

1850
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: it would sound like a cold rubber band. It was

1851
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,960
Speaker 1: these anchors in my shoulder, like just ringing in my ear.

1852
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 1: Now do it. That's like a vivid memory of.

1853
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 4: Rehab and in context for people I tore my shoulder

1854
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:17,640
Speaker 4: as well, and it works like a clock like I

1855
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:21,360
Speaker 4: had twelve, Like thirteen is something extra has to be

1856
01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:24,280
Speaker 4: happening to your shoulder for him to have thirteen anchors.

1857
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 1: So here's so Zach Thomas had surgery the same day

1858
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 1: that I did with a similar injury. But you guys

1859
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:36,200
Speaker 1: playing linebacker, they're going to fix you differently because you're

1860
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: not required to have all this external rotation, right.

1861
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 4: We'll have there is for our lives.

1862
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, tighten you guys up right because you

1863
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:44,759
Speaker 1: don't you don't need all that.

1864
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,120
Speaker 4: Right, We're just right here, but yeah, exactly.

1865
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:50,719
Speaker 1: But but for QB rotational athlete need all this external

1866
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 1: internal like it's it's got to be stable enough but

1867
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: loose enough, you know. So it's like it's walking this

1868
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,760
Speaker 1: delicate line, right and yeah, through the rehab process, it's

1869
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,800
Speaker 1: just about building their strengthen and around that joint to

1870
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: protect it. But yeah, I mean it was like a

1871
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 1: work of art as I think about what doctor Andrews

1872
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: had to put back together and perform.

1873
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 4: Dude, that is incredible. Again, like you given that perspective too,

1874
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 4: Like I'm not even thinking about it on Zach Thomas,

1875
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:22,720
Speaker 4: like having similar surgeries and they gotta do it a

1876
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 4: little bit differently because the quarterback, linebacker and everything else,

1877
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 4: and just you still overcoming that and I appreciate you

1878
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,600
Speaker 4: sharing all that with this too, because I know, like

1879
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 4: if you're if you're young, like I'm thirty six, I

1880
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 4: want to say you started to take off when I

1881
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:36,559
Speaker 4: was like in high school, right, Like, wasn't it like

1882
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,120
Speaker 4: when you're having like the four thousand yard seasons, isn't

1883
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:42,759
Speaker 4: it around like what O seven, eight oh six? Maybe?

1884
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 1: Yeah? Six O six was our first year with the

1885
01:23:45,360 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: Saints and that was that was really the start of

1886
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:49,240
Speaker 1: the run.

1887
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,800
Speaker 4: So even at my age, like I remember, like there

1888
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 4: were a couple of moments where I'm getting reminded that

1889
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,560
Speaker 4: you played on the San Diego Chargers. I'm getting reminded

1890
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 4: your actual laboram story came up during my rehab process

1891
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 4: on Just Guys. It was like you, I want to say,

1892
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 4: rich Gannon was another one. But you're like learning about

1893
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 4: these things about like Drew Brees that you that everybody

1894
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 4: knows of as a Hall of Fame quarterback, Like anybody

1895
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 4: young that just watched you basically your Saints days has

1896
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 4: really you know, they could be hearing this for the

1897
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 4: first time, just be thinking, Oh shit, he played on

1898
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 4: It's always the Oh shit, he played on the Chargers.

1899
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 4: Oh shit, Philip Rivers was a backup him for a

1900
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 4: couple of years. Oh he was behind Doug Flutie, like

1901
01:24:27,520 --> 01:24:30,799
Speaker 4: the Drew Brees that we all know right now. It's crazy.

1902
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 4: So I appreciate you walking us down those those those

1903
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 4: old memories.

1904
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a little bit of memory laying there. But

1905
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: and then every every one of those Look, I consider

1906
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 1: myself really lucky from a coaching perspective. You know, Joe

1907
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:50,479
Speaker 1: Tiller in college, who was so influential for me, Marty

1908
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:53,040
Speaker 1: Schottenheimer with the Sandy Which Charterers, Sean Payton with the

1909
01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, so pretty rare that you would just have,

1910
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, that that level of stability, you know, at

1911
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: each level and each each one of those guys, I

1912
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:04,360
Speaker 1: just have lessons that continue to ring in my ear,

1913
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 1: you know, each and every day, especially as now I'm

1914
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 1: coaching and I'm coaching my kids and other kids, and

1915
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: just you know, a lot of my style has been

1916
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:13,559
Speaker 1: modeled off of those guys.

1917
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a lot of guys.

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Speaker 4: We have Clay Matthews, on one of our Locker Room

1919
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Speaker 4: show that comes out on Thursdays, and we also have

1920
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Speaker 4: and just hearing about these coaches and how their approach

1921
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Speaker 4: to these kids. What is what is your approach with

1922
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Speaker 4: your children? Are you hardest on your kids a little

1923
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Speaker 4: easier on the other kids. Gregson, he's coaching his.

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Speaker 1: Actually I love watching greg stuff. I know I ran

1925
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Speaker 1: is he's coaching middle school football. I was coaching my

1926
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Speaker 1: eighth grade Pop Warner son this year, and I coached

1927
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Speaker 1: Pop Worner the last two years too for my my

1928
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Speaker 1: freshman son. Yeah, it's I would say my style. Well,

1929
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Speaker 1: first off, I think it's very hard for parents to

1930
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Speaker 1: coaching kids because it is very natural to try to

1931
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Speaker 1: over coach them, right. It's like you feel like every

1932
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Speaker 1: lesson that comes to your mind to teach them, you

1933
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Speaker 1: just like, ah, it's just coming out at all times,

1934
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Speaker 1: and you want to coach a mike on every play.

1935
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Speaker 1: And that's where it just becomes difficult, is blurring those

1936
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Speaker 1: lines between like dad and the house, and then you

1937
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Speaker 1: know I'm your coach. You can't tell how many times

1938
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Speaker 1: I've I've had to look my son in the eye

1939
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Speaker 1: and say, hey, so like right now, I'm your coach.

1940
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Speaker 1: I'm not your dad. Okay, I'm your coach, so listen

1941
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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 4: Right to what I say.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but i'd say this, like overall, I'd say, I'm

1944
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Speaker 1: pretty intense, but I try to I try to be

1945
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Speaker 1: intense with my praise as much as I am intense

1946
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Speaker 1: with my correction, right, So it's not it's not just

1947
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Speaker 1: one sided I, I would say. I I also I

1948
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Speaker 1: also try to really put each position, each kid in

1949
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Speaker 1: the best position to succeed, and and try to find

1950
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Speaker 1: moments where you can put them in a position where

1951
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Speaker 1: you are able to give them praise. I find that

1952
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Speaker 1: so many, so many of these kids like to watch

1953
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Speaker 1: their growth from the start of the year to the

1954
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Speaker 1: end of the year, like is monumental. And I think

1955
01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,720
Speaker 1: that's where we see the sport of football as just

1956
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Speaker 1: being like this creator of men, right and good young men.

1957
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Speaker 1: There's just so many life lessons to be learned through

1958
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Speaker 1: the sport, and it's almost like you're just looking for

1959
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:28,600
Speaker 1: those moments that you can set up in practice or

1960
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Speaker 1: or in a game that you can immediately spin back

1961
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Speaker 1: to being a life lesson. And then I think, like

1962
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Speaker 1: that recap at the end of every practice and the

1963
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 1: recap at every at the end of every game are

1964
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Speaker 1: probably some of my favorite moments. You know, it's like, hey,

1965
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Speaker 1: you kind of go around the circle all the coaches, Hey,

1966
01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:46,599
Speaker 1: what did we learn today? And then you just try

1967
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Speaker 1: to take something that happened to practice and then bring

1968
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Speaker 1: it back to life, right like the effort of some

1969
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Speaker 1: kid or you know whatever it might be. Like, I

1970
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Speaker 1: just I find that that those are the most valuable

1971
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Speaker 1: parts of coaching these young kids.

1972
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Speaker 3: I love it.

1973
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Speaker 10: Uh.

1974
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Speaker 3: You we we broke down the shoulder thing a little bit.

1975
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 3: Now we're in the process. You're going this eight month

1976
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 3: rehab where we don't know if you can play again.

1977
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 3: You've ripped up the insurance policy. Your wife's like, I

1978
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 3: believe in you. Tom Connin's like, I believe in you.

1979
01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 3: Tom connit's paid to believe in you. Yet you still

1980
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 3: believe that he believed that what is his how is

1981
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 3: he going out? And what other teams is he talking to?

1982
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Speaker 3: That ended up you going to the New Orleans Saints.

1983
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say because of the just you know,

1984
01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:34,040
Speaker 1: unknowns with the shoulder and and the fact that I

1985
01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: think word had gotten out that you know, I had

1986
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Speaker 1: a twenty five percent chance of coming back and playing,

1987
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: you know, that was that was what the Miami Dolphins

1988
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 1: doctors had assessed with me, and they had told Nick

1989
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Speaker 1: Saban that they had told the the UH the organization

1990
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 1: that because at the end of the day, it came

1991
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Speaker 1: down to the New Orleans Saints and the Miami Dolphins

1992
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 1: as being the two teams that were trying to bring

1993
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 1: me in as the starter. There was a lot of

1994
01:28:58,479 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 1: teams that were like, hey, we'll bring you in as

1995
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Speaker 1: basically like a backup, and let's just see what you

1996
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 1: got right, Let's see, let's see if you can if

1997
01:29:05,840 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: you can come back. But the Saints and the Dolphins

1998
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: were the only two that were coming after me to

1999
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Speaker 1: be their starting quarterback.

2000
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Speaker 4: When you look at the NFL now and there's all

2001
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,639
Speaker 4: these talks around quarterbacks, should they play as a rookie,

2002
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 4: all these young quarterbacks who struggle. Then you look at

2003
01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:29,479
Speaker 4: examples like Sam Darnold, who's in the Baker Mayfield gyle Jones, Yeah,

2004
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:32,200
Speaker 4: Daniel Jones, and obviously clearly it's it was a sim

2005
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 4: It was very similar with yourself, like what do you

2006
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:38,400
Speaker 4: feel like you look at with these guys to where

2007
01:29:38,560 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 4: it's you know, everybody's wanting to either say they're not

2008
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:43,439
Speaker 4: the guy, or they're a bust, or they just need

2009
01:29:43,479 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 4: to be in a better situation, Like what are you

2010
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Speaker 4: seeing when you watch kind of these conversations unfold, pulling

2011
01:29:49,160 --> 01:29:52,040
Speaker 4: from your own experience seeing these guys now have success

2012
01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 4: after having a rocky start in the NFL.

2013
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Speaker 1: Look, man, it's a great it's a great question, and

2014
01:29:56,880 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: it's and it's probably it's definitely in exact science because

2015
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 1: we see it, we see it succeed and fail a lot. Right.

2016
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Speaker 1: The first thing I would say is you just you

2017
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 1: can't replace experience, and so the more experience a guy has,

2018
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Speaker 1: the more that you are going to see what he's

2019
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Speaker 1: capable of and what you have. So I'll give you examples, Like,

2020
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Speaker 1: first off, I think that every NFL, you know, any

2021
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:27,200
Speaker 1: young player needs at least forty to fifty high level

2022
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: starts before you're going to see, you know, what they're

2023
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:37,959
Speaker 1: capable of. I think too many times guys get drafted

2024
01:30:38,479 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 1: and maybe they've only started for a year, year and

2025
01:30:40,800 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: a half or two in college and they're expected to

2026
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Speaker 1: come in and it just to happen like that's that's

2027
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Speaker 1: not that's not reality. The reality is if a guy

2028
01:30:52,840 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: has a limited number of starts in college, it's probably

2029
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: going to take him a good two to three years

2030
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL before you're going to know what you have.

2031
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,680
Speaker 1: And if he's in a situation where look as it is,

2032
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:07,920
Speaker 1: in most cases, most top ten pick quarterbacks, top fifteen

2033
01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:10,840
Speaker 1: pit quarterbacks are going to teams that aren't very good.

2034
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:14,040
Speaker 1: That's why they're drafting that high, or they have a

2035
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: lot of other holes to fill, and so it's just

2036
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: even more pressure that's falling on the quarterback position, right,

2037
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 1: And everybody's got this win now mentality and man, we

2038
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:23,360
Speaker 1: don't have time.

2039
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:24,400
Speaker 10: I get it.

2040
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Speaker 1: But at the same time, you also have to understand that, man,

2041
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 1: the maturation process for a quarterback takes takes a little time.

2042
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: The guys that do come in and maybe have more

2043
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: success early probably has a lot to do with the

2044
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Speaker 1: team that they're on and the system and the staff,

2045
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: but also the amount of experience. Okay, So like the

2046
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: rookies that came in and had success last year, Okay,

2047
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,640
Speaker 1: like the bow Knicks Oennicks started sixty games in college,

2048
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels. Jade Daniels started four seasons I think

2049
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 1: two years for Arizona State two years for LSU, right,

2050
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:00,320
Speaker 1: Rock Purty, Rock Purty started fifty one games at Iowa State, right,

2051
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:02,160
Speaker 1: and every time they stept on the field, they were

2052
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: not the better team, right, Like they were the underdogs.

2053
01:32:05,280 --> 01:32:06,640
Speaker 1: They have a chip on the shoulder like they had

2054
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,720
Speaker 1: to kind of like you know, gritty. So I think

2055
01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: those would be examples of all right, a lot of experience,

2056
01:32:14,479 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: so better position to maybe have some success you know,

2057
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,439
Speaker 1: early in the NFL, but still a process.

2058
01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:23,840
Speaker 4: Is it still the same formula even if they're having

2059
01:32:23,880 --> 01:32:26,599
Speaker 4: success early, Like, is it still kind of the same

2060
01:32:26,640 --> 01:32:28,720
Speaker 4: formula or system in your head to where it's like

2061
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 4: you still want to see a good forty fifty high

2062
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 4: level starts in the NFL Because people talk about they

2063
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:35,559
Speaker 4: try to break down Bowe nixt all the time. Like

2064
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:38,599
Speaker 4: you played for Sean Payton. Everybody's like this partnership, this

2065
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,200
Speaker 4: is who Sean wanted. It seems like bow Nick Drew

2066
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:43,680
Speaker 4: Brees has that mental Yeah, he has that mental fort two.

2067
01:32:43,800 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 4: He has that kind of it factor on wanting to

2068
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 4: compete and learn and be really great. He also started

2069
01:32:49,400 --> 01:32:52,559
Speaker 4: a shitload of games, so if he has a down game, people,

2070
01:32:52,640 --> 01:32:54,680
Speaker 4: I feel like the conversation will be well, he had

2071
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:56,240
Speaker 4: all these starts, he's kind of as good of a

2072
01:32:56,240 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 4: prod product as he's going to be. And it's like, well,

2073
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 4: there's still some separation from college to the NFL, right,

2074
01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:03,760
Speaker 4: what do you see that situation? Like with like Bo

2075
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:07,680
Speaker 4: Nicks and Sean Payton in Denver or an example like that.

2076
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:12,559
Speaker 1: Some of it, too, is the style of offense that

2077
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:15,680
Speaker 1: a lot of these college programs are running man. So

2078
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,000
Speaker 1: much of it's no huddle, so much of its shotguns,

2079
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,679
Speaker 1: so much of it is RPO. You know, we're really

2080
01:33:21,200 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 1: you're kind of pigeonholing the quarterbacks into In most cases

2081
01:33:25,040 --> 01:33:28,200
Speaker 1: you're just reading like one person, or you're just reading

2082
01:33:28,680 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 1: like this small section of field, and so you don't

2083
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,360
Speaker 1: really get a chance to learn a ton about coverage

2084
01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: or even like in other words, I don't know if

2085
01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: your football IQ is is where it needs to be,

2086
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,120
Speaker 1: or if you've really been in positions where you've been

2087
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: forced to kind of learn all of those things until

2088
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:52,680
Speaker 1: you get to the NFL and then all of a

2089
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:57,439
Speaker 1: sudden it is men, the best teams are the ones

2090
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,599
Speaker 1: that can get under center and run the ball like

2091
01:33:59,680 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 1: that's you would know will like as a linebacker, if

2092
01:34:04,240 --> 01:34:06,920
Speaker 1: you're exclusively in shotgun, I think that gives you. That

2093
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 1: gives you a lot more benefit than all of a

2094
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 1: sudden offense that is under center. We're going to pound it.

2095
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:14,559
Speaker 1: Oh here comes play action, right, opening up shots down

2096
01:34:14,600 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 1: the field. Oh there's the screen game. Oh there's the shotgun.

2097
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:20,360
Speaker 1: Oh we're going empty right, like this variety that you

2098
01:34:20,439 --> 01:34:23,400
Speaker 1: can throw at defenses in the NFL. If you have

2099
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:27,400
Speaker 1: the ability to go under center and add that component,

2100
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:32,080
Speaker 1: I think makes you much more of a problematic offense.

2101
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 1: And I think from a quarterback perspective, it's a skill

2102
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:37,320
Speaker 1: set that you need to have. Like I watched the

2103
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,200
Speaker 1: New England Patriots right now on the Colts two of

2104
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,000
Speaker 1: the teams that are under center the most, and they're

2105
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: having some of the most success. And I think it's

2106
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:47,200
Speaker 1: really benefiting those quarterbacks and Daniel Jones and Drake may So.

2107
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: I bring that point up just to say that I

2108
01:34:50,240 --> 01:34:53,439
Speaker 1: think a lot of these kids now are doing things

2109
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:55,960
Speaker 1: in college that then they come to the NFL and

2110
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:57,720
Speaker 1: then they're having to do stuff that maybe they've never

2111
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,559
Speaker 1: done before, maybe they've never been under center. But man,

2112
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,360
Speaker 1: like that's a big benefit to that. I had a

2113
01:35:02,360 --> 01:35:04,760
Speaker 1: little bit of that that learning curve. When I came

2114
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,320
Speaker 1: in the league, we were spread offensive Purdue throwing the

2115
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: ball fifty times a game. I was in shotgun ninety

2116
01:35:09,400 --> 01:35:11,479
Speaker 1: percent of the time. I get into a pro style

2117
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: offense with Ladanian Tomlinson and like a true fullback of

2118
01:35:13,960 --> 01:35:16,280
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Meal, and guess what, I'm under center like seventy

2119
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,280
Speaker 1: five percent of the time right having to turn my

2120
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: back to the defense on play action Like I never

2121
01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,680
Speaker 1: I didn't know what that was, right, right, So that

2122
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,439
Speaker 1: that took That took a little time. I saw that

2123
01:35:25,439 --> 01:35:27,240
Speaker 1: with bo Nicks last year because I know Sean Payton

2124
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:30,160
Speaker 1: likes to do that, right, So again it's what system

2125
01:35:30,160 --> 01:35:31,680
Speaker 1: where they in and then what are you asking them

2126
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,439
Speaker 1: to do now? And just understanding there's gonna be a

2127
01:35:34,479 --> 01:35:36,200
Speaker 1: little bit of a learning curve that goes along with that.

2128
01:35:36,439 --> 01:35:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, we will brought up that, you know, the bow

2129
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:41,479
Speaker 3: Nick Sean Payton relationship. Everyone always kinds of lean on,

2130
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 3: like Sean Payton has found his new Drew Brees bow

2131
01:35:44,080 --> 01:35:47,840
Speaker 3: Knicks student of the game, true professional, very dialed in

2132
01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 3: in his routine. Did you ever have a conversation with

2133
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 3: Sean Payton about the possibility of bo Knicks or as

2134
01:35:53,920 --> 01:35:55,519
Speaker 3: bow Knicks reached out to you and be like, Hey,

2135
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 3: this guy's a really intense coach. How do or so,

2136
01:35:57,760 --> 01:35:59,160
Speaker 3: how do I get him to like me a little bit?

2137
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 3: More like what do I got to do?

2138
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 10: Like?

2139
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,240
Speaker 3: Have you had any conversations with those two about their relationship?

2140
01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I've I remember talking to Sean a

2141
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,840
Speaker 1: bunch during the draft process when all, you know, six

2142
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks were out there, and you know, him

2143
01:36:12,960 --> 01:36:15,120
Speaker 1: talking about who he liked, and ironically, he loved Bo.

2144
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: He loved Bo from from the very beginning, and then

2145
01:36:17,640 --> 01:36:19,920
Speaker 1: Bo kind of fell in his lap at whatever that was,

2146
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 1: pick twelve or thirteen. And I think Bo has all

2147
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,839
Speaker 1: the traits that Sean loves. First off, Bo's a fiery competitor.

2148
01:36:28,080 --> 01:36:31,280
Speaker 1: Sean likes. Sean likes having a guy like that, even

2149
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,040
Speaker 1: a guy who's going to kind of snap back at him.

2150
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:33,519
Speaker 4: You know.

2151
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:35,880
Speaker 1: I think that Sean Payton comes from the Bill Parcells

2152
01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: world of coaching, which is, you know, Bill Parcells would

2153
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,760
Speaker 1: get audien, you know, and I think Bill loved when

2154
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 1: you would come back to him with conviction, you know

2155
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:49,679
Speaker 1: about about you know, whatever it was. And so Sean

2156
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: likes that type of a guy and obviously bo to

2157
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:56,840
Speaker 1: multi sport athlete, a ton of experience, you know, knows

2158
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:59,240
Speaker 1: what he likes. Definitely a learning curve, you know with

2159
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,240
Speaker 1: some of the things in Sean Payton's offense, and I

2160
01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:04,639
Speaker 1: think you've seen him grow and mature through that. Yeah.

2161
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: I've had many conversations with Bo too. I think just

2162
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:09,240
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just about like preparation

2163
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:15,960
Speaker 1: and process situation some time within this offseason. A great kid.

2164
01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:19,040
Speaker 1: Man loves ball and what's would be great.

2165
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,559
Speaker 3: You definitely see the mental four or two with bone knicks.

2166
01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:23,320
Speaker 3: This last game against the Giants, I think they were.

2167
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 3: They scored thirty six and the fourth.

2168
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:26,280
Speaker 1: Thirty three and the fourth man.

2169
01:37:26,479 --> 01:37:27,360
Speaker 4: Isn't that crazy?

2170
01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,240
Speaker 3: Unreal, unbelievable because you thought, like, I'm watching Jackson Dart

2171
01:37:31,240 --> 01:37:32,880
Speaker 3: and he's getting a couple of penalties and that lasting

2172
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:35,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, this kid is really lighting the NFL on fire.

2173
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 3: And they score relatively quickly. It's like, holy shit, bon

2174
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 3: Nix is about to do just too. Yeah, he's about

2175
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 3: to do it. If we go travel back down to

2176
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:46,920
Speaker 3: the Bayou a little bit. You got Spencer Rattler. He's

2177
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 3: a first year starter of South Carolina game cog JP

2178
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:50,400
Speaker 3: Huffy sitting on the bus with us.

2179
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 6: What are you.

2180
01:37:51,080 --> 01:37:53,680
Speaker 3: Seeing out of Kellen Moore as his first time being

2181
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,080
Speaker 3: a head coach at the Saints. Spencer Radler seems like

2182
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 3: he has a lot of success. Then it's like then

2183
01:37:58,040 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 3: he throws like two or three picks in a game

2184
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,759
Speaker 3: and the kind of like finding their identity on offense.

2185
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:03,559
Speaker 3: What do you see him from the New Orleans Saints

2186
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:04,040
Speaker 3: right now?

2187
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2188
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,120
Speaker 1: Look, I think Spencer Rattler has a lot of unique traits.

2189
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,240
Speaker 1: I think he throws the ball extremely well. I think

2190
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 1: he's he has the ability to improvise, to problem solve.

2191
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:18,920
Speaker 1: He's taken off and run and made some exceptional plays

2192
01:38:18,920 --> 01:38:21,360
Speaker 1: with his legs this year. So from that perspective, he

2193
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,080
Speaker 1: has all those traits. I think he's got a little

2194
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:28,320
Speaker 1: monoxie to him. Look, I've always liked Kellen Moore's systems.

2195
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,080
Speaker 1: Wherever he's been been a lot of places. Has had

2196
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,040
Speaker 1: to put together offenses for a lot of quarterbacks, and

2197
01:38:33,080 --> 01:38:34,680
Speaker 1: I think that's what he's been really good at is

2198
01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,759
Speaker 1: putting together offenses that fit the strengths of the qbs

2199
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: and the personnel around him. I know what's tough as

2200
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:44,600
Speaker 1: you sit here, because you're like, ah, they're not a

2201
01:38:44,640 --> 01:38:46,720
Speaker 1: one in sixteen. They certainly don't look like one in

2202
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:52,320
Speaker 1: sixteen when you watch them. They've been in most of

2203
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,280
Speaker 1: their games, like most of their games have come down

2204
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: to a final drive where they had a chance to win, tie,

2205
01:38:57,560 --> 01:39:02,160
Speaker 1: certainly extend the game, and a way to win. Look

2206
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: on the flip side, you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks.

2207
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:06,360
Speaker 1: You know they found ways to win. Unfortunately, the Saints

2208
01:39:06,439 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: just have it right and their records reflect that. But

2209
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 1: I think they're building something there. They've got a ton

2210
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,960
Speaker 1: of pieces on offense, They've got one of the better

2211
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: old lines in football. Defensively, they've got a great core

2212
01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:23,720
Speaker 1: group of guys, giving up too many big plays the

2213
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks. But otherwise they have all the pieces,

2214
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:30,799
Speaker 1: you know, So I think you just kind of scratch

2215
01:39:30,840 --> 01:39:33,200
Speaker 1: your head. They just haven't found ways to win some

2216
01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 1: of these close ones.

2217
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 3: If somebody called you right now, if Kilmore College is

2218
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:40,400
Speaker 3: I need I need one game, one game at you

2219
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 3: to show these young bucks, what's what do you think

2220
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:46,080
Speaker 3: with your competitive drive and you had we'll give you

2221
01:39:46,160 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 3: three weeks to train, could you go in and be

2222
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 3: competitive in an NFL football game today.

2223
01:39:52,680 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 1: Well, now, look, I would know, I would know where

2224
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:55,880
Speaker 1: to throw it. I just don't know if I could

2225
01:39:55,880 --> 01:40:00,000
Speaker 1: get it there.

2226
01:40:00,360 --> 01:40:00,599
Speaker 10: Yeah.

2227
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:02,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, turn out the tape. I know where it's supposed

2228
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 1: to go.

2229
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 4: Right.

2230
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 1: Uh, now that the right that's that's one. That's one

2231
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:11,679
Speaker 1: lingering effect from the uh from the shoulder surgery back.

2232
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,360
Speaker 1: You know twenty years ago now was doctor Andrews said,

2233
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, hey, you're you're you're gonna be on the

2234
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 1: fast track now for a degenerative shoulder, and you know

2235
01:40:21,080 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: at some point this thing is going to kind of

2236
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 1: take a steep dive. And unfortunately, I think I'm at

2237
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: that point, Like I don't I don't throw with my

2238
01:40:27,800 --> 01:40:30,519
Speaker 1: right arm anymore. I actually throw left handed. I kind

2239
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 1: of started doing that towards actually, just with my kids

2240
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,360
Speaker 1: because I come home after a long day of practice

2241
01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,360
Speaker 1: and I didn't have anything left in the right arm

2242
01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: and they but the boys want to play catch.

2243
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 4: So yeah, left hand, you throw.

2244
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:44,720
Speaker 1: I throw left handed. I'm hey, I'm I'm pretty I'm

2245
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:49,040
Speaker 1: pretty mean inside of inside of thirty with this left dude.

2246
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,240
Speaker 3: You bring up a unique point though, that a lot

2247
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,200
Speaker 3: of a lot of players don't think about while they're playing,

2248
01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 3: is the wear and tear that's taking place in their body.

2249
01:40:57,200 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 3: Now that you've been at the leaf for a few

2250
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 3: years now, and you know, my shoulder, I was told

2251
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 3: it's gonna be on a fast track. What kind of

2252
01:41:03,360 --> 01:41:05,400
Speaker 3: things are you doing to kind of keep your body

2253
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:07,479
Speaker 3: ahead of the chains so you don't kind of just

2254
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,080
Speaker 3: kind of go downhill? Not just a shoulder from a

2255
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:11,559
Speaker 3: body standpoint.

2256
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, now a great question. Look, I I still love

2257
01:41:15,040 --> 01:41:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I just love athletics and I love to

2258
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:20,879
Speaker 1: be active. So man, I play a bunch of racket sports,

2259
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:25,840
Speaker 1: like I played a bunch of Podel pickle. I still like.

2260
01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:27,439
Speaker 1: I like the mountain bike. I like to you know,

2261
01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: get in the water and stand a paddle or surf

2262
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 1: of course, just all this stuff that I do with

2263
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 1: my kids, you know, athletically. And then look, I like

2264
01:41:36,479 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 1: to train. I like to I like to lift heavy

2265
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,599
Speaker 1: weights at least twice a week, you know, especially lower body.

2266
01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 1: Like once you're a rotational athlete, like I never want

2267
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 1: to lose. Like you think about what you lose with

2268
01:41:50,080 --> 01:41:53,120
Speaker 1: the aging process. You lose the ability to go fast,

2269
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: you lose the ability to recover, and then you just

2270
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: lose the ability to do it, you know, day after day, right,

2271
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,200
Speaker 1: and as you stay on top of so like flexibility

2272
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:06,040
Speaker 1: is important, so like yoga plates, all those things to

2273
01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: make sure that I'm staying like pliable. I mean, I

2274
01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,840
Speaker 1: still get bodywork and I saw in a cold tub

2275
01:42:10,960 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: like religiously, and then honestly just to staying strong like

2276
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,760
Speaker 1: I want to. I want to feel like especially part

2277
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:20,759
Speaker 1: of this is maybe motivation because my boys are getting

2278
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: older and like they walk in the kitchen, they try

2279
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,200
Speaker 1: to size you up, right, don't walk up, don't walk

2280
01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:29,200
Speaker 1: up on me, boy, Yeah, you gotta gotta you got

2281
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: you gotta keep pace, man, and some of it they're

2282
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:35,080
Speaker 1: always eyeing you man like you know so, so I

2283
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,680
Speaker 1: I feel like that's that's what motivates me. But I

2284
01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: just want to. I just want to be able to

2285
01:42:39,360 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: do all the things that I want to do for

2286
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 1: as long as I possibly can. I used to use

2287
01:42:43,520 --> 01:42:45,880
Speaker 1: the term at the end of my career prolong my prime.

2288
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:48,400
Speaker 1: I was always trying to prolong my prime with everything

2289
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 1: I was doing. So man, from a training, recovery, all

2290
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 1: that stuff. It's almost like I'm still playing from that perspective.

2291
01:42:54,920 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: I still have that same mentality.

2292
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,639
Speaker 4: I love that all right, Time to eliminate some some friends.

2293
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:03,880
Speaker 4: Time to some hearts. Best offensive weapon that you've ever had?

2294
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,200
Speaker 4: You got to play with la Danian Thomas and Jimmy Graham,

2295
01:43:06,200 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 4: Alvin Kamara, Darren Sprolls, Michael to You got to play

2296
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,160
Speaker 4: with a lot of specimens. Yeah, who's your favorite offensive

2297
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 4: weapon you've ever played with?

2298
01:43:13,360 --> 01:43:15,639
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, man, I might say, darren Sproles.

2299
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,680
Speaker 4: Oh okay, well these rolls.

2300
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 1: Would you want to call it? Cover Sprolls out of

2301
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:23,240
Speaker 1: the backfield?

2302
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:23,679
Speaker 4: No?

2303
01:43:23,680 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 10: No.

2304
01:43:24,000 --> 01:43:25,840
Speaker 4: When he was in Philly and I would have him

2305
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:27,560
Speaker 4: out in the flat when I was on the Redskins

2306
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,240
Speaker 4: and he wouldn't catch the ball, I'd be like, Hey,

2307
01:43:29,240 --> 01:43:31,160
Speaker 4: I'm really glad Sam Bradford did not throw you this

2308
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,240
Speaker 4: ball out here. We pat each other on the helmet,

2309
01:43:33,360 --> 01:43:33,840
Speaker 4: jog back.

2310
01:43:33,760 --> 01:43:38,040
Speaker 1: To the hutches. Yeah. You know what it's like. You

2311
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 1: can have such a great defensive scheme, right, you can

2312
01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:46,519
Speaker 1: have such a great pressure or you know, pass rush,

2313
01:43:46,600 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 1: stunt or bracket coverage or whatever you know on tight

2314
01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: ends receivers, but like that, running back out of the

2315
01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: backfield can ruin your day as a as a defense

2316
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:03,519
Speaker 1: and as a defensive coordinator. So I just I taught,

2317
01:44:03,840 --> 01:44:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, talking to our own defensive coordinators when we

2318
01:44:06,240 --> 01:44:09,799
Speaker 1: had sprolls and then just watching you know, his career

2319
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 1: and obviously what I know about him, he was just

2320
01:44:13,160 --> 01:44:18,920
Speaker 1: such a weapon and a matchup problem and and like

2321
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,040
Speaker 1: we could find ways to beat you in so many,

2322
01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,679
Speaker 1: so many different ways with him. The other thing too,

2323
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,840
Speaker 1: was he didn't get enough credit as a runner yet. No,

2324
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: he was not a big guy. I mean he was

2325
01:44:28,280 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: five seven, one hundred and eighty pounds maybe. But here's

2326
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,160
Speaker 1: the other thing. Will like hard to see him when

2327
01:44:36,200 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: he's behind lineman right like in the zone, in the

2328
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 1: zone game, so like, he was slippery, slippery, and man,

2329
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:47,559
Speaker 1: the minute that he like one cut found his lane, boy,

2330
01:44:47,600 --> 01:44:50,519
Speaker 1: he was gone, right and then good luck open field

2331
01:44:50,600 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 1: tackling him.

2332
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 12: Right.

2333
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 1: So like, for all those reasons, he just he was

2334
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: a weapon that I like, I call him a generational player,

2335
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:03,280
Speaker 1: like generational if you know how to use him. And

2336
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,040
Speaker 1: as durable as he was. And I'm not even I

2337
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:09,080
Speaker 1: didn't even talk about the special team's game like him

2338
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,759
Speaker 1: returning punts is one of the best punt returners, probably

2339
01:45:11,840 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 1: top three, top five of all time, all time. Yeah,

2340
01:45:16,920 --> 01:45:17,680
Speaker 1: so yeah, he was.

2341
01:45:18,000 --> 01:45:21,120
Speaker 4: He was special and I think too. It's like people

2342
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:22,840
Speaker 4: don't understand, like, especially when you get in the red

2343
01:45:22,920 --> 01:45:26,720
Speaker 4: zone and that halfback option comes alive. You got to

2344
01:45:26,720 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 4: do like one or two things. Like as a coordinator,

2345
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 4: you're thinking, hey, will or any linebacker, it's like, take

2346
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 4: away the space, stay inside. But everybody knows this running

2347
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,680
Speaker 4: back is gonna win nine times out of ten, So

2348
01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 4: what do you got to do to kind of help

2349
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:39,760
Speaker 4: with that out. You're gonna have to give like a

2350
01:45:39,840 --> 01:45:42,400
Speaker 4: bam call to your edge rusher, so you're kind of

2351
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:44,599
Speaker 4: taking the edge rusher out of pressure. So if you're

2352
01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:46,920
Speaker 4: aligning him too, hey, let's put him on the side

2353
01:45:46,960 --> 01:45:49,240
Speaker 4: where the best pass rusher is and the backer back

2354
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:51,559
Speaker 4: there's got to give him a bam call. He's giving

2355
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:53,720
Speaker 4: a bam call. Pass rush is Matt, he doesn't get

2356
01:45:53,720 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 4: the rush of passer. You're kind of arguing on the

2357
01:45:55,479 --> 01:45:57,880
Speaker 4: sidelight and say, bro, I've got like I'm not gonna

2358
01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,120
Speaker 4: be able to cut any linebacker. You're not able to

2359
01:46:00,120 --> 01:46:02,360
Speaker 4: cover this dude, and you're gonna get because they want

2360
01:46:02,360 --> 01:46:04,920
Speaker 4: to bracket take away the stars everywhere else. But it's

2361
01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 4: a fucking running back out of the backfield. That's honestly

2362
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,200
Speaker 4: the problem because you're not and again you're not lined up,

2363
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,840
Speaker 4: you're not on the line of scrimmage to where if

2364
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 4: you're pressing or you're playing at say five yards, it's

2365
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:21,080
Speaker 4: not like the fundamental coverage of a receiver. This dude's

2366
01:46:21,120 --> 01:46:23,879
Speaker 4: coming out of the backfield, who can stem you before

2367
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,320
Speaker 4: he even gets to where he's actually gonna make his cut,

2368
01:46:26,479 --> 01:46:29,360
Speaker 4: which makes it insanely harder. Cordators will try to put

2369
01:46:29,360 --> 01:46:31,840
Speaker 4: a safety down. Okay, let's get Willie boy all the game,

2370
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:33,920
Speaker 4: or let's get this backer who probably can't cover out

2371
01:46:33,960 --> 01:46:35,880
Speaker 4: of the game. You'll put a safety in and they

2372
01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,960
Speaker 4: show you still ten times out of ten, it's just

2373
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:40,160
Speaker 4: not gonna happen because it's not a it's not a

2374
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:43,360
Speaker 4: routine covered snap. It blows my mind and it'll always

2375
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 4: piss me off.

2376
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 11: Dree.

2377
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 3: You can tell that will is he's telling us with

2378
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,720
Speaker 3: so much like fortitude. He's just so like aggressive the

2379
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:50,439
Speaker 3: way he's talking.

2380
01:46:50,479 --> 01:46:52,120
Speaker 1: No, no, But you know what, that was the part

2381
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,280
Speaker 1: that I forgot, Like just from a pass rush perspective,

2382
01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:58,040
Speaker 1: he is exactly right like whenever sprolls he would line

2383
01:46:58,080 --> 01:47:00,720
Speaker 1: up in the backfield to that week's side, Like all

2384
01:47:00,720 --> 01:47:03,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that backer in a heartbeat is giving

2385
01:47:03,160 --> 01:47:04,720
Speaker 1: that call to the end to try to chip them

2386
01:47:04,720 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: all the way now right, Yeah, that affects the pass rush,

2387
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:08,840
Speaker 1: you know.

2388
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,840
Speaker 3: You know that Thursday Friday when they're going over red

2389
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:13,720
Speaker 3: zone with Will, They're like, hey, you got sprolls this

2390
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 3: week this it's keep it inside, And Will was like,

2391
01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:19,479
Speaker 3: I got them coaching. I'm looking at the fucker's gotta

2392
01:47:19,479 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 3: make me do this.

2393
01:47:20,120 --> 01:47:22,760
Speaker 4: I'm looking at.

2394
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:24,080
Speaker 10: That.

2395
01:47:24,479 --> 01:47:27,160
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm telling I'm like, Bro, I'm bamming you, like,

2396
01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 4: that's this is what if I get say, trips far gunner,

2397
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 4: I identify where I'm going to get god right, because

2398
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 4: not all the time, just at the backs off set.

2399
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:36,360
Speaker 4: But if I know I'm in this situation and I

2400
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 4: know this is what's coming, I'm fucking baming you, bro,

2401
01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 4: like you're gonna hit that dude, stop rushing passion.

2402
01:47:42,120 --> 01:47:44,280
Speaker 1: Here's the other froll story and this just this kind

2403
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:46,599
Speaker 1: of just rounds out the total package. So we're playing

2404
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:49,200
Speaker 1: the Niners back when they had that legit defense. This

2405
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: is like twenty thirteen. Oh yeah, Will, when we're we

2406
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:53,760
Speaker 1: have the chance to go down and beat them in

2407
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,120
Speaker 1: the end. So right, like we're on a two minute

2408
01:47:55,200 --> 01:47:57,439
Speaker 1: drive and man sprolls is kill him out of the backfield,

2409
01:47:57,439 --> 01:47:59,200
Speaker 1: this and that, and then there's this one moment where

2410
01:47:59,640 --> 01:48:01,880
Speaker 1: we all a pass play that's a man beater, and

2411
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:05,400
Speaker 1: sure enough, here's Patrick Willis and Navarro Bowman boy hitting

2412
01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:08,320
Speaker 1: these a gaps right and Sposey's in the backfield. And

2413
01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 1: I remember, like right before the play, I said, hey, bro,

2414
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do this to you often, but you

2415
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:14,640
Speaker 1: got a boat. You just got to bow up on

2416
01:48:14,720 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 1: this state right now, right like you got to step

2417
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:19,320
Speaker 1: up and you got to handle this guy. We can

2418
01:48:19,360 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: deliver this ball down the field and man coverage and

2419
01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 1: you go kick a field, go to win this game.

2420
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: And dude, he steps up, and hey, those dudes were

2421
01:48:26,840 --> 01:48:29,799
Speaker 1: oh yeah Bowman, oh yeah yeah, like the best.

2422
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:31,960
Speaker 4: Of the yeah, one of the best pandems of all time.

2423
01:48:32,040 --> 01:48:35,040
Speaker 1: Right, that's who everybody was watching. And Sposi comes up

2424
01:48:35,080 --> 01:48:39,759
Speaker 1: and wow, right right in the chest of Bowman and

2425
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:41,720
Speaker 1: and just holds him off for long enough, right, so

2426
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 1: we can deliver the ball down the field and man coverage,

2427
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,719
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Graham bidding field goal rains kick this game winner.

2428
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,519
Speaker 1: But again, like that's that's the other part of being

2429
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:55,200
Speaker 1: like a back that goes probably un you know, unappreciated.

2430
01:48:55,400 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 1: You know, you talk a lot about what they can

2431
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,599
Speaker 1: do out of the backfield, You talk about the run game,

2432
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:01,640
Speaker 1: but at times they got step up and deliver a

2433
01:49:01,680 --> 01:49:04,200
Speaker 1: blow on a guy and allow you to you know,

2434
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,439
Speaker 1: get the ball down the field the big situation. And

2435
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,519
Speaker 1: suppose he was always willing to do that at five

2436
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:13,839
Speaker 1: seven a buck eighty. Yeah, I love that pund dogs, Yeah.

2437
01:49:13,720 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 3: I love that. Bud light question. Yeah, let's get out

2438
01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,360
Speaker 3: of here, all right, Drew. We all know everyone would

2439
01:49:19,400 --> 01:49:22,519
Speaker 3: do anything for an ice cold, crisp bud light.

2440
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 10: Uh.

2441
01:49:23,479 --> 01:49:25,479
Speaker 3: If you could have a bud light with anybody in

2442
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 3: the world, past or present, who would it be.

2443
01:49:29,439 --> 01:49:31,240
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's a good one.

2444
01:49:36,680 --> 01:49:36,920
Speaker 4: Man.

2445
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,519
Speaker 1: You know. I'm gonna say, uh, it's just the first

2446
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 1: name that came to mind. I'm gonna say, Roger Stallbach.

2447
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,160
Speaker 4: Roger stab Yeah.

2448
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,960
Speaker 1: I just we were at the Cowboys Commander's game yesterday.

2449
01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:54,440
Speaker 1: It was my son's birthday and his godfather is Brian Schotheimer.

2450
01:49:54,479 --> 01:49:56,439
Speaker 1: So we were there. We were there watch watching the uh,

2451
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:00,120
Speaker 1: watching the Cowboys play, and I remember I remember and

2452
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,559
Speaker 1: stallbuck before the game, and I was just thinking, like

2453
01:50:03,600 --> 01:50:04,960
Speaker 1: one of the one of the all time greats, one

2454
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,840
Speaker 1: of the all times legends. There's actually a great story

2455
01:50:06,920 --> 01:50:12,080
Speaker 1: I sang the uh take me out to the ball

2456
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 1: game at Wrigley Field with Roger stallback back when I

2457
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 1: was in college. That that that that that's the story

2458
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:23,200
Speaker 1: for another time. Yeah, but anyway, he's he's one of

2459
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,559
Speaker 1: my all time favorites and cowboy legend. And I just

2460
01:50:25,560 --> 01:50:27,240
Speaker 1: saw him yesterday, so that was the first name that

2461
01:50:27,280 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: came to mind.

2462
01:50:28,040 --> 01:50:30,559
Speaker 4: I love it. Hey, we appreciate it, Drew. Thank you

2463
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,559
Speaker 4: for coming on. Thank you for sharing all those stories.

2464
01:50:33,040 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 4: You're an absolute legend, Hall of famer, all the fun stuff.

2465
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:36,680
Speaker 4: What's up?

2466
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, the boy.

2467
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,800
Speaker 4: They're out over here, just pointing at the chair on

2468
01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,320
Speaker 4: the bus. We'd love to have you on the bus

2469
01:50:46,320 --> 01:50:48,200
Speaker 4: one day. But thank you for your time.

2470
01:50:48,040 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: Bro, absolutely, man. Thanks guys, appreciate you.

2471
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 4: Just give right a plus drink. Appreciate you, Drew, have

2472
01:50:57,800 --> 01:50:59,200
Speaker 4: a go on, man, Thank you very much.

2473
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:02,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a guy.

2474
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:11,280
Speaker 4: That was fun? Why what dude? It was fun?

2475
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:11,559
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2476
01:51:11,880 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 4: Were you guys able to hear some of that. Yeah,

2477
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:15,800
Speaker 4: did he was fun. That was definitely one where I'm

2478
01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,760
Speaker 4: checking the time. I'm like, we're only gonna have time

2479
01:51:17,760 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 4: for a few more. But like stories like that you'd

2480
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:24,840
Speaker 4: love to get into, or just his lead. Yeah, speeches leadership.

2481
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:28,240
Speaker 3: Like he's like a Payton Manning type right where he

2482
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:30,720
Speaker 3: would just lose it on players at practice and like

2483
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 3: send him the sideline.

2484
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:34,080
Speaker 4: That's the thing too, Like him and Sean Payton, they

2485
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:37,760
Speaker 4: were the first. That was the first time I experienced where's.

2486
01:51:37,520 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 6: Mike gonna be still in the pot or we're gonna

2487
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:42,439
Speaker 6: cut this part?

2488
01:51:42,760 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 4: Oh sorry, I could be in the potty. You felt

2489
01:51:45,240 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 4: like this is awesome. Yeah, what I was saying to

2490
01:51:49,240 --> 01:51:50,080
Speaker 4: where was I out helping?

2491
01:51:50,120 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 3: You were talking about Sean first time you experienced Sean

2492
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:53,719
Speaker 3: Payton and Drew Brees.

2493
01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:56,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, talking about his intensity and everything else like that.

2494
01:51:56,800 --> 01:51:58,160
Speaker 4: That was when I was on the same So I

2495
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:00,719
Speaker 4: was kind of the first organization to where Sean Payton

2496
01:52:00,720 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 4: would stop practice at any point of practice if something

2497
01:52:04,120 --> 01:52:06,719
Speaker 4: came up, like not just like he had this plan,

2498
01:52:06,800 --> 01:52:09,000
Speaker 4: but if a moment came up, or say an incompletion

2499
01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 4: or something happens, He's like thinking something in his mind

2500
01:52:11,640 --> 01:52:13,680
Speaker 4: of a situation this could be in and they all

2501
01:52:13,680 --> 01:52:16,919
Speaker 4: stop it, or Drew would have one. Everybody'd stop practice

2502
01:52:17,040 --> 01:52:18,479
Speaker 4: and we would all come up as a team and

2503
01:52:18,520 --> 01:52:20,680
Speaker 4: he'd be breaking down the situation. So that's why I

2504
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 4: get fascinated because you also see clips too of Drew

2505
01:52:23,240 --> 01:52:25,360
Speaker 4: Brees and Sean Payton sitting there the night before a

2506
01:52:25,400 --> 01:52:28,799
Speaker 4: game like up late, going through every type of situational football.

2507
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,400
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking of that type of schooling that bo

2508
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:33,800
Speaker 4: Nix is getting, and it probably will even though he's

2509
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:36,519
Speaker 4: had so many starts, the difference in college and pros

2510
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:39,320
Speaker 4: and everything else, to where he's still very much immersed

2511
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:41,599
Speaker 4: in this like school of Sean Payton, to where he's

2512
01:52:41,600 --> 01:52:43,360
Speaker 4: got the effect of wanting to learn it, but as

2513
01:52:43,400 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 4: he continues to digest it, he'll like just continue to

2514
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 4: get better because of how intense and situational I feel

2515
01:52:51,800 --> 01:52:53,200
Speaker 4: like coach Coach Payton is.

2516
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you could see bo Nicks taking that

2517
01:52:55,320 --> 01:52:57,599
Speaker 3: next step because you're right, like college and NFL are

2518
01:52:57,600 --> 01:53:00,040
Speaker 3: completely different sports, so there is gonna take some I

2519
01:53:00,040 --> 01:53:01,880
Speaker 3: don't even know Bodenicks played sixty games or whatever many

2520
01:53:01,920 --> 01:53:04,040
Speaker 3: it was, but you see it in that last drive

2521
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:06,479
Speaker 3: after Jackson Dart has that running for the touchdown. The

2522
01:53:06,520 --> 01:53:08,920
Speaker 3: way he is working the sidelines and with time in

2523
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 3: the middle of the field, he's from a situational football standpoint.

2524
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,200
Speaker 3: He's figuring it out quickly because they know exactly the

2525
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 3: yardlin that you have to get to. You don't have

2526
01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:19,720
Speaker 3: like the red line on the screen that all of

2527
01:53:19,840 --> 01:53:21,960
Speaker 3: us are watching, and they know like, hey, our kicker

2528
01:53:22,080 --> 01:53:24,400
Speaker 3: is great, best from this area, from this hash he's

2529
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,439
Speaker 3: working it. It's it's very impressive to see. So that

2530
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:29,759
Speaker 3: makes a lot of sense. You're talking about like Sean

2531
01:53:29,760 --> 01:53:31,800
Speaker 3: Payton sitting there, he sees the situation that practice, like,

2532
01:53:31,840 --> 01:53:33,800
Speaker 3: let's break this down for everybody.

2533
01:53:33,320 --> 01:53:34,519
Speaker 4: So they know the situation.

2534
01:53:34,760 --> 01:53:38,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. That's just good coaching.

2535
01:53:38,680 --> 01:53:41,240
Speaker 4: Get you juiced up. I can't imagine in those situations

2536
01:53:41,320 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 4: where there's like there's no timeouts left, you're in a

2537
01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,200
Speaker 4: double wall situation to where you're forcing them to throw

2538
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 4: the ball to the inside. They might gain yardage, but

2539
01:53:50,200 --> 01:53:52,360
Speaker 4: they're trying to maybe gain yardage and kick a field goal.

2540
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:52,559
Speaker 3: Toh.

2541
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 4: It's like, however much time is left on the clock,

2542
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:58,000
Speaker 4: let's call it anywhere between like twelve and sixteen seconds

2543
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 4: to where it's like there it's a per second margin

2544
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:03,680
Speaker 4: on Hey, this isn't good to call double wall yet,

2545
01:54:03,800 --> 01:54:05,640
Speaker 4: or we're all gonna this. The call is gonna be

2546
01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 4: double wall to where in college the coaching staff might

2547
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:11,400
Speaker 4: know this and the players don't. But in the NFL,

2548
01:54:11,479 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 4: like everybody has everybody has to understand what's going on

2549
01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 4: to where they're quizzing you throughout the week and everything else. Hey,

2550
01:54:17,520 --> 01:54:20,880
Speaker 4: this situation happens, it's very specific, very particular. We're not

2551
01:54:20,880 --> 01:54:22,680
Speaker 4: gonna be able to rep it in the game. We

2552
01:54:22,760 --> 01:54:25,400
Speaker 4: might run at one time and walk through every other

2553
01:54:25,479 --> 01:54:27,439
Speaker 4: week just to stay refreshed on it. But it's like

2554
01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:30,760
Speaker 4: it's those situations where all players have to understand the

2555
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:32,680
Speaker 4: situational awareness of the NFL.

2556
01:54:32,720 --> 01:54:34,400
Speaker 3: And you can tell the Giants were doing that in

2557
01:54:34,440 --> 01:54:37,400
Speaker 3: that last drive because at the one where bo Nick

2558
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 3: stes it to the middle of the field ends up

2559
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 3: getting them into field goal range. There's two wide receivers

2560
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:44,280
Speaker 3: that are running similar routes where it seems like, oh there.

2561
01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:47,680
Speaker 4: Might felt like yeah like Courtland, yeah, Courtland, sudden it

2562
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:47,960
Speaker 4: kind of.

2563
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,880
Speaker 3: Goes past him. But in that situation, if you're the

2564
01:54:50,960 --> 01:54:52,880
Speaker 3: if you're dable you're the Giants coach, you need to

2565
01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:55,000
Speaker 3: be telling these guys on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. If we're

2566
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 3: in this position where I'm making them throw to the

2567
01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:58,560
Speaker 3: middle field and we're in that twelve to sixteen second mark,

2568
01:54:59,080 --> 01:55:01,520
Speaker 3: one guy makes attack, let's get two or three guys

2569
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 3: on top of him as well.

2570
01:55:02,680 --> 01:55:05,400
Speaker 4: Right, don't get a penalty.

2571
01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:06,800
Speaker 3: But lay on him. Let it drag out where they

2572
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,960
Speaker 3: have to kind of push you off, because they kicked

2573
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,560
Speaker 3: that ball with what two seconds left in the clock,

2574
01:55:11,120 --> 01:55:14,640
Speaker 3: and what's that They spiked it, right, and so they

2575
01:55:14,720 --> 01:55:16,440
Speaker 3: might not be able to put themselves in a position

2576
01:55:16,520 --> 01:55:18,840
Speaker 3: to spike it if you have not just one guy

2577
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,920
Speaker 3: on there, but one, two, three guys where it's like,

2578
01:55:20,960 --> 01:55:23,200
Speaker 3: we got to get this guy off. That's just little

2579
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:26,200
Speaker 3: things you can do when the seconds matter more than

2580
01:55:26,240 --> 01:55:28,560
Speaker 3: anything else and you're forcing the quarterbacks your throats in

2581
01:55:28,600 --> 01:55:28,960
Speaker 3: the middle of.

2582
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:30,520
Speaker 4: The field, right right. I want to say there was

2583
01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:34,240
Speaker 4: a situation like that in college. Gee, did somebody on

2584
01:55:34,320 --> 01:55:36,800
Speaker 4: here post a clip of like, you know, somebody catching

2585
01:55:36,840 --> 01:55:38,680
Speaker 4: the ball, he's on the ground, everybody's kind of like

2586
01:55:38,760 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 4: laying on him or diving on him.

2587
01:55:41,040 --> 01:55:43,640
Speaker 5: That was me that posted that, and honestly, it was

2588
01:55:43,720 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 5: taking a little bit. Everybody was saying I was getting

2589
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:48,280
Speaker 5: upset with the refs. Really I was mad at our

2590
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:51,320
Speaker 5: play call. But it was before the half. We run

2591
01:55:51,360 --> 01:55:53,720
Speaker 5: a play, We're trying to hurry up and clock it,

2592
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 5: and their players were laying on top of us blatantly.

2593
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:59,600
Speaker 4: That was one where it's like, that's a little that's

2594
01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:02,000
Speaker 4: where that's where you probably will see a fly because

2595
01:56:02,040 --> 01:56:03,720
Speaker 4: you got to kind of if you get the tackle,

2596
01:56:03,760 --> 01:56:05,760
Speaker 4: make sure on top and just take your time getting up.

2597
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 4: But it did seem like a few players they.

2598
01:56:07,800 --> 01:56:10,360
Speaker 5: Were just like shoving him down and walking out right.

2599
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:12,360
Speaker 4: That is that is a penalty.

2600
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:17,000
Speaker 3: That should that should absolutely be a penalty. But yeah,

2601
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:18,760
Speaker 3: that it's that kind of stuff that just kind of

2602
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 3: detail changes one little thing. Because if you watch that

2603
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:26,200
Speaker 3: Giants Broncos game, like Giants owned that entire game, had

2604
01:56:26,240 --> 01:56:29,480
Speaker 3: it and then Jackson Dart throws a bad pick late

2605
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter that lets them come back. I

2606
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 3: don't know what the exact score.

2607
01:56:32,840 --> 01:56:35,440
Speaker 4: Was that many points to within like the last six minutes.

2608
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there were three lead changes in the last six.

2609
01:56:37,840 --> 01:56:41,000
Speaker 4: Minutes down touchdown, touchdown, touch down.

2610
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 5: Going into the fourth quarter. Bo Knicks had like eleven

2611
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:47,040
Speaker 5: Fantasy points and then he finished with thirty nine.

2612
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, because that's my other league still lost. But

2613
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 4: when I saw him still have thirty something, because I'm

2614
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:56,920
Speaker 4: like checking, I'm like, I'm checking the game through Fantasy,

2615
01:56:56,960 --> 01:56:58,680
Speaker 4: and I did see him have like he didn't have

2616
01:56:58,760 --> 01:57:02,360
Speaker 4: very many points, like well, you know, b Nicks like giants,

2617
01:57:02,360 --> 01:57:04,440
Speaker 4: they must be they must be the real deal. And

2618
01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:06,240
Speaker 4: then when I saw I got home in time to

2619
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 4: watch the end of that game, and they're like four

2620
01:57:08,080 --> 01:57:10,480
Speaker 4: total touchdowns. I got there right when he was running

2621
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:13,720
Speaker 4: that like QB design run when they scored to go

2622
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:17,560
Speaker 4: up and then Jackson they go down. A couple you know,

2623
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 4: calls like that, PI calls a little. I thought suspect

2624
01:57:20,120 --> 01:57:25,640
Speaker 4: that they called on Riley Cross an exciting game. Exciting,

2625
01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:27,760
Speaker 4: exciting game. We want to save that. I don't know.

2626
01:57:27,760 --> 01:57:29,839
Speaker 4: We got Zach Bond coming on soon.

2627
01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:34,280
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, so let's let's temperate. Let's get to Zach Bond.

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Speaker 4: with the boys.

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Speaker 3: Buddy. First off, I know we had a lot of

2679
02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:21,560
Speaker 3: football to get into. But that house, man, something about Forest.

2680
02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,280
Speaker 4: Green for me really sets the tone. Did you you

2681
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,200
Speaker 4: build this house yourself? Do you paint it yourself? What's

2682
02:00:26,240 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 4: going on?

2683
02:00:27,400 --> 02:00:29,560
Speaker 10: Did not build it, but we did have it painted. Yes?

2684
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:33,120
Speaker 4: Nice? Nice. Everybody's gotta paint their house.

2685
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 3: Everybody's got to paint their house.

2686
02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 10: This is that front sitting room that you never use. Yeah,

2687
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:38,200
Speaker 10: that's what I'm mean right now?

2688
02:00:38,280 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, get it and that's dialed up man, Brostoff. Congrats

2689
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:42,120
Speaker 3: on the big win.

2690
02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:43,600
Speaker 10: Thank you.

2691
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:44,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, we needed that one.

2692
02:00:44,840 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 4: Gbot bro So soked to have you. I think you

2693
02:00:48,280 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 4: are phenomenal. I think it's super impressive that you're somebody

2694
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:53,800
Speaker 4: that's been able to move from the outside to the inside.

2695
02:00:54,880 --> 02:01:02,839
Speaker 4: I do have to ask Cam Scataboo.

2696
02:01:03,600 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 10: That's one of one of those guys you watch on

2697
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:08,240
Speaker 10: film and you're like, dang, he runs hard, but you

2698
02:01:08,280 --> 02:01:10,920
Speaker 10: don't really know until you feel yourself. So I'm glad

2699
02:01:10,920 --> 02:01:13,560
Speaker 10: we got him this week. Yeah, yeah, I'll just say that.

2700
02:01:13,800 --> 02:01:14,320
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2701
02:01:14,360 --> 02:01:16,360
Speaker 4: And he caught you kind of sideways too. If I'm

2702
02:01:16,360 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 4: giving you the benefit of the doubt, I know you

2703
02:01:17,960 --> 02:01:19,440
Speaker 4: can run, I know you can hit, but he kind

2704
02:01:19,440 --> 02:01:22,120
Speaker 4: of had you sideways and just watching from the side,

2705
02:01:22,160 --> 02:01:25,200
Speaker 4: ain't go seeing you go kvie your oh shiit that money?

2706
02:01:25,680 --> 02:01:28,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, that was a run across the field and get

2707
02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:29,680
Speaker 10: my ass smack type play right there.

2708
02:01:30,280 --> 02:01:31,520
Speaker 3: Listen, we got.

2709
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:35,520
Speaker 10: I got to the sideline of I'm like, hey, dide

2710
02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:36,880
Speaker 10: it look bad.

2711
02:01:39,160 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 4: That's the only way where you're watching next week. In

2712
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:42,920
Speaker 4: the position meetings too, like you know, you guys had

2713
02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:45,240
Speaker 4: a tough loss, but just sitting there and t or

2714
02:01:45,280 --> 02:01:47,920
Speaker 4: a defensive meeting or position meeting, you're just like, all right,

2715
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:48,960
Speaker 4: go ahead, skip through this.

2716
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you get to that plane, you just put

2717
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:53,160
Speaker 3: your head down hoping we just we just skip over

2718
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:55,400
Speaker 3: a couple of your buddies looking over at the corner, like, God,

2719
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:59,440
Speaker 3: damn that happened to you. But yeah, what it has

2720
02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:01,520
Speaker 3: the energy and like in that building, you guys obviously

2721
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:04,760
Speaker 3: had a big, big week this week. Jalen Hurts throws

2722
02:02:04,800 --> 02:02:07,240
Speaker 3: for a billion yards. Everybody's been saying, you guys can't

2723
02:02:07,240 --> 02:02:09,560
Speaker 3: throw the ball. Everyone's like, hey, this is the best

2724
02:02:09,560 --> 02:02:11,760
Speaker 3: put together team, but we're lacking on deep. There's been

2725
02:02:11,800 --> 02:02:16,280
Speaker 3: so much noise on the outside revolving around the Philadelphia Eagles.

2726
02:02:16,520 --> 02:02:18,240
Speaker 3: What has it been like in the building for you

2727
02:02:18,280 --> 02:02:19,760
Speaker 3: guys keeping the main thing, the main thing?

2728
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:23,760
Speaker 10: Yeah, I think the noise in the in the media

2729
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:26,120
Speaker 10: is a lot louder than the noise in the locker room.

2730
02:02:26,600 --> 02:02:28,160
Speaker 10: Like we get we get to the locker room and

2731
02:02:28,160 --> 02:02:31,240
Speaker 10: it's like, what, what's what's the big fuss? Like we're

2732
02:02:31,240 --> 02:02:35,000
Speaker 10: winning games for the most part, we're winning games and

2733
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:37,520
Speaker 10: we're doing an overall good job. So I think it's

2734
02:02:37,560 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 10: all blown out of proportion and just keeping the main thing.

2735
02:02:40,600 --> 02:02:43,160
Speaker 10: The main thing is the biggest thing winning games.

2736
02:02:43,880 --> 02:02:46,160
Speaker 4: A couple of weeks ago, when it was the Giants,

2737
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:50,120
Speaker 4: and just from your from your vantage point watching it happen,

2738
02:02:50,480 --> 02:02:54,800
Speaker 4: the fourth Toush pushes in a row to go score,

2739
02:02:54,880 --> 02:02:57,000
Speaker 4: knowing it was like, was it fourth and short? A

2740
02:02:57,080 --> 02:02:58,720
Speaker 4: third and short? It's like, okay, we're gonna get two

2741
02:02:58,720 --> 02:03:01,040
Speaker 4: opportunities at these you get it, you're the one yard line,

2742
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 4: you continue to just do the Tousch push. I know,

2743
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:06,920
Speaker 4: watching it on TV, I'm sitting there, these dudes are

2744
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:09,360
Speaker 4: really doing four Toush pushes. Yeah.

2745
02:03:10,120 --> 02:03:13,640
Speaker 10: Yeah. Usually I'm the guy that's like, yep, run it,

2746
02:03:13,680 --> 02:03:15,800
Speaker 10: run it again, run it again. But after the third time,

2747
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:20,520
Speaker 10: I'm like, all right, all right, we gotta try something different. Yeah,

2748
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,280
Speaker 10: but the thing is that it works. And if you

2749
02:03:22,480 --> 02:03:24,600
Speaker 10: run a play that works, why not keep running it?

2750
02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:28,480
Speaker 3: Yeah? You got the Giants second time in three weeks

2751
02:03:28,520 --> 02:03:31,120
Speaker 3: this week? What are the what are some things you

2752
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:33,280
Speaker 3: can go and watch the film, but from you as

2753
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:35,240
Speaker 3: a player being on that field when you guys play

2754
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:37,320
Speaker 3: them on Thursday night football, what are the things that

2755
02:03:37,360 --> 02:03:39,960
Speaker 3: they did so well that made it difficult for you

2756
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:40,800
Speaker 3: guys on defense?

2757
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:42,320
Speaker 6: Yeah?

2758
02:03:42,360 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 10: I think just the theme this year has been like

2759
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:48,280
Speaker 10: as defending champions, like we're gonna get everyone's best shot.

2760
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:51,680
Speaker 10: Everyone's gonna come at us like with the with their

2761
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:55,720
Speaker 10: best game, like their best game plan, the physicality, their intensity,

2762
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:59,040
Speaker 10: and that's what it was that game. So just combating

2763
02:03:59,040 --> 02:04:00,960
Speaker 10: that and coming with some swag at home?

2764
02:04:01,800 --> 02:04:02,680
Speaker 4: What was the taale?

2765
02:04:02,720 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 10: Like?

2766
02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:04,760
Speaker 4: Obviously it was a bad taste, But is this a

2767
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:07,600
Speaker 4: game now? You you beat the Vikings, which was a

2768
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 4: massive win for you guys, especially again with all the

2769
02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:13,440
Speaker 4: noise offensively, the question marks even defensively, you guys haven't

2770
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,680
Speaker 4: played your best football. I know you guys have had injuries.

2771
02:04:15,960 --> 02:04:18,160
Speaker 4: But once that game is over against the Vikings, is

2772
02:04:18,200 --> 02:04:21,080
Speaker 4: there like a salivation going on getting the Giants again

2773
02:04:21,920 --> 02:04:23,560
Speaker 4: this quickly after the loss?

2774
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:28,120
Speaker 10: Yeah, it's very rare that you play a team two

2775
02:04:28,200 --> 02:04:31,360
Speaker 10: times like that close. Sometimes it'll be like one at

2776
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 10: the beginning of the season and then one at the end.

2777
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:35,520
Speaker 10: But to get them this close, it's kind of weird,

2778
02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:38,720
Speaker 10: to be honest, But good for us because we lost

2779
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:41,880
Speaker 10: and we get to get our lick back. But yeah,

2780
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 10: I just got to get after it, honestly, because you.

2781
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,240
Speaker 4: Know, like after New York wins that game in the

2782
02:04:46,240 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 4: fashion that they did do it, it's like, you see,

2783
02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:51,360
Speaker 4: it's like you got all the bulletin board material in

2784
02:04:51,360 --> 02:04:53,760
Speaker 4: the world just to be like licking your chops for

2785
02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:56,360
Speaker 4: this game. You got the you know, the Create Team Caucasians,

2786
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:59,720
Speaker 4: Jackson Dark Game, Skataboo, they're pot Like Scataboo's out their

2787
02:04:59,720 --> 02:05:02,360
Speaker 4: post shirt list, like he's going viral for head button

2788
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:05,440
Speaker 4: walls and shit gets the hit on ozach Bonn. I

2789
02:05:05,480 --> 02:05:07,560
Speaker 4: know you're gonna be pissed off, brother, ready to go.

2790
02:05:09,320 --> 02:05:11,960
Speaker 10: Come on, man, we gotta get our lick back. We're

2791
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:15,040
Speaker 10: too competitive in this game to just lay down and

2792
02:05:15,080 --> 02:05:15,760
Speaker 10: take it like that.

2793
02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:18,320
Speaker 3: Buddy. I want to talk to you real quick about

2794
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:20,240
Speaker 3: you signing a one year deal for three and a

2795
02:05:20,280 --> 02:05:22,760
Speaker 3: half million dollars with the Eagles. You're approve it deal

2796
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 3: and you became an All Pro in that, Like for

2797
02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,000
Speaker 3: all the players watching who sit there and they've been

2798
02:05:29,040 --> 02:05:32,640
Speaker 3: the situation where they know they can be this caliber

2799
02:05:32,680 --> 02:05:34,640
Speaker 3: of player and they have to go into a prove

2800
02:05:34,640 --> 02:05:36,520
Speaker 3: it deal, Like, what is the mindset? What is the

2801
02:05:36,560 --> 02:05:38,880
Speaker 3: takeover for you to go not only become an All

2802
02:05:38,880 --> 02:05:41,680
Speaker 3: Pro guy, but be wearing the green dot for an

2803
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:45,160
Speaker 3: elite defense who wins the Super Bowl and then eventually

2804
02:05:45,160 --> 02:05:47,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna what was this the number was too big

2805
02:05:47,240 --> 02:05:49,320
Speaker 3: for the piece of paper. A three year, fifty one

2806
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:52,640
Speaker 3: million dollar contract extension after that, like had to be

2807
02:05:52,720 --> 02:05:54,840
Speaker 3: a lot of ups and downs and thought processes when

2808
02:05:54,840 --> 02:05:57,280
Speaker 3: you're leaving the Saints going to the Eagles and that

2809
02:05:57,480 --> 02:05:59,640
Speaker 3: year the offseason, what was that like for you?

2810
02:05:59,720 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 4: An inside back or two? Yeah?

2811
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:05,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, leaving the Saints, I had, I had like two

2812
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:07,600
Speaker 10: paths I could have gone down. I could have like

2813
02:06:08,000 --> 02:06:10,520
Speaker 10: stuck with being a special teams guy and played my

2814
02:06:10,640 --> 02:06:12,360
Speaker 10: role and done a good job at that and played

2815
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:14,840
Speaker 10: a long time, made some money. But there was something

2816
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:17,440
Speaker 10: in me that was like, man, I know I can play.

2817
02:06:17,720 --> 02:06:19,919
Speaker 10: I know I can play, whether it's inside or outside.

2818
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:23,440
Speaker 10: And I talked with my agent, my wife, my family,

2819
02:06:23,920 --> 02:06:26,480
Speaker 10: and they're like, give it another shot, Like don't give

2820
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:28,960
Speaker 10: up on yourself just yet. And I didn't know what

2821
02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:31,879
Speaker 10: position I was going to play coming to the Eagles

2822
02:06:32,400 --> 02:06:35,160
Speaker 10: until I'm at the front door meeting the inside linebacker

2823
02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:38,200
Speaker 10: coach's hand, and I'm like, all right, I guess I'm inside.

2824
02:06:38,280 --> 02:06:40,960
Speaker 10: Let's figure this out. And we had a lot of

2825
02:06:41,000 --> 02:06:42,760
Speaker 10: new guys in the culture here, so good, so I

2826
02:06:42,840 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 10: just jumped right in and started winning games and playing well.

2827
02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:50,840
Speaker 4: Absolute specimen being a special teams demon because you can run.

2828
02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:53,280
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here looking right now. It's what am I

2829
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:56,160
Speaker 4: seeing here holds his high school two hundred meter record

2830
02:06:56,600 --> 02:06:58,600
Speaker 4: ran a twenty one point five at two hundred and

2831
02:06:58,600 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 4: twenty pounds, Like, are you somebody's sitting there talking shit

2832
02:07:01,160 --> 02:07:02,760
Speaker 4: with the boys on teams when they're talking about who

2833
02:07:02,760 --> 02:07:03,680
Speaker 4: the fastest guy is.

2834
02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,400
Speaker 10: They never throw me in that conversation, but I always

2835
02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:10,520
Speaker 10: need to get my respect, Like I'm fast too, but

2836
02:07:10,680 --> 02:07:11,040
Speaker 10: you can.

2837
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:13,400
Speaker 4: Fly, you can fly. I also see that you were

2838
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:15,480
Speaker 4: You play quarterback in high school through for about two

2839
02:07:15,480 --> 02:07:17,080
Speaker 4: thousand yards and twenty touchdowns.

2840
02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:20,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, I played quarterback, but I was really just like

2841
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:25,400
Speaker 10: small town athlete, you know, get it in his hands.

2842
02:07:25,400 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 10: Every time I was running the ball, I would drop

2843
02:07:27,200 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 10: back knowing I'm about to take off and run. So

2844
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:30,600
Speaker 10: it's a lot of a lot of Russian.

2845
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:33,440
Speaker 4: We gotta work on him just talking shit like yeah,

2846
02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 4: I was that dude. Yeah, like yeah, but you know.

2847
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:37,880
Speaker 1: You know what he is.

2848
02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:40,000
Speaker 3: He thinks he's telling you to the real media right now,

2849
02:07:40,320 --> 02:07:44,920
Speaker 3: we're going to do an arrogant linebacker thought he was

2850
02:07:44,920 --> 02:07:47,280
Speaker 3: the man in high school. Bro, if you're a cat.

2851
02:07:47,480 --> 02:07:50,240
Speaker 3: I'm assuming you win both ways on the football field,

2852
02:07:50,560 --> 02:07:53,280
Speaker 3: and you're playing quarterbacks dropping back and it's like, yeah,

2853
02:07:53,320 --> 02:07:55,320
Speaker 3: you all know I'm gonna run, but I'm still gonna

2854
02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:56,600
Speaker 3: go off on you guys no matter what.

2855
02:07:57,640 --> 02:07:59,480
Speaker 10: Yeah, there was some confidence there for sure.

2856
02:07:59,600 --> 02:08:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, you know that little something, you know

2857
02:08:02,240 --> 02:08:05,520
Speaker 4: he had the chin strap, chin strap on buckles, feeling

2858
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,000
Speaker 4: like Michael vicked times. Yeah, what kid.

2859
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:10,920
Speaker 10: Didn't do that mouthguard hanging out? Yeah that was me.

2860
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:14,000
Speaker 3: What what's your what's your thought process when you look

2861
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:15,600
Speaker 3: at the Big ten and you see the state of

2862
02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:19,240
Speaker 3: your alma mater, the Wisconsin Badgers right now? I hate

2863
02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:23,000
Speaker 3: doing this. Ooh, but it's tough for Luke Fickle and

2864
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:25,120
Speaker 3: the boys. Man, what's going on there?

2865
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:32,400
Speaker 10: I couldn't tell you. Man, it's when you think. Let

2866
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,360
Speaker 10: me ask you, when you think of Wisconsin football, what

2867
02:08:34,360 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 10: do you think?

2868
02:08:35,000 --> 02:08:38,400
Speaker 3: I think a run game, run game, offensive lineman that

2869
02:08:38,480 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 3: all could be in the NFL just three yards and

2870
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:44,000
Speaker 3: a cloud of dust until sixty forty fifty happens.

2871
02:08:44,040 --> 02:08:47,280
Speaker 4: And I'm thinking also thinking linebackers, your guys, defensive front seven.

2872
02:08:48,200 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, you're thinking thirteen personnel, twenty one, twenty two

2873
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:55,960
Speaker 10: extra linement corn fed Wisconsin farm Boys.

2874
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, besides watch Nurse.

2875
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:01,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, when you watch him, now, that's not what I'm seeing.

2876
02:09:02,120 --> 02:09:05,520
Speaker 10: That's not what I'm seeing. So I don't know. I

2877
02:09:05,560 --> 02:09:08,560
Speaker 10: don't know. I don't want to. I'll keep my comments

2878
02:09:08,600 --> 02:09:11,000
Speaker 10: to myself. But we need to win some games.

2879
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:13,560
Speaker 4: You know, you don't have to say anything. I just know.

2880
02:09:13,680 --> 02:09:17,240
Speaker 4: For me, like, I was fired up for the Fickle higher.

2881
02:09:17,240 --> 02:09:18,839
Speaker 4: I thought he was one of the best head coaches

2882
02:09:18,960 --> 02:09:22,960
Speaker 4: when he left Cincinnati. So I'm sitting here completely surprised

2883
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:25,440
Speaker 4: that he hasn't been able to get Wisconsin going because

2884
02:09:25,440 --> 02:09:27,160
Speaker 4: you guys have been good. I mean, you guys whooped

2885
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:29,320
Speaker 4: our ass, but you guys have been good for a

2886
02:09:29,360 --> 02:09:32,400
Speaker 4: long time. I felt running the ball, playing defense. I

2887
02:09:32,640 --> 02:09:34,800
Speaker 4: like Fickle, Like, I don't know a whole lot about

2888
02:09:34,840 --> 02:09:36,760
Speaker 4: him other than how he did in Cincinnati. And I

2889
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:40,120
Speaker 4: know he's like him and Vrabel were, they're best friends. Yeah,

2890
02:09:40,160 --> 02:09:42,800
Speaker 4: so I'm thinking, Okay, he's gonna bring this chip on

2891
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:47,520
Speaker 4: shoulder mentality, like this swagger, this no nonsense, all hard work,

2892
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:50,800
Speaker 4: everything else to Wisconsin. So I'm like, I'm shocked. I'm

2893
02:09:50,800 --> 02:09:52,960
Speaker 4: sure like everybody else is just that Fickle hasn't worked

2894
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 4: out there.

2895
02:09:53,480 --> 02:09:55,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you on that.

2896
02:09:55,480 --> 02:09:58,280
Speaker 10: Part of me was like giving him the benefit of

2897
02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:00,520
Speaker 10: the doubt, like, Okay, he's got to get his guys

2898
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:02,400
Speaker 10: in here to Like, Yeah, if we're gonna switch the

2899
02:10:02,440 --> 02:10:04,839
Speaker 10: system and switch what we do, like, we need different players.

2900
02:10:04,840 --> 02:10:06,960
Speaker 10: We can't have these big, old old linemen running the

2901
02:10:06,960 --> 02:10:09,520
Speaker 10: spread offense. So maybe just give it some time to

2902
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 10: develop and get some different guys in there.

2903
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:16,880
Speaker 3: Exciting whites. You get to play with them on every

2904
02:10:16,880 --> 02:10:19,600
Speaker 3: single down. They took the world by storm last year.

2905
02:10:19,640 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 3: They end up starting their own podcast. Talk to me

2906
02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:25,480
Speaker 3: about what Cooper Dead and Reid Blaking Ship are on

2907
02:10:25,560 --> 02:10:28,120
Speaker 3: the field. How are these guys? Are they big communicators?

2908
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:28,560
Speaker 10: Like?

2909
02:10:28,600 --> 02:10:30,760
Speaker 3: Are these two dudes you hate? Just let them go play.

2910
02:10:31,000 --> 02:10:32,800
Speaker 3: I want to know about their play style. What kind

2911
02:10:32,800 --> 02:10:34,960
Speaker 3: of camaradi we have in the locker room.

2912
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:38,200
Speaker 10: Yeah, I'll start with Reid. Read is the biggest communicator

2913
02:10:38,960 --> 02:10:43,879
Speaker 10: at the safety spot. He like demands the coverage aspect

2914
02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:46,160
Speaker 10: of our defense and a really good player. He knows

2915
02:10:46,160 --> 02:10:49,080
Speaker 10: what's going on, he knows what's coming. And then Coop

2916
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 10: is just a dog like I do it all. He's

2917
02:10:51,720 --> 02:10:57,200
Speaker 10: strong in a run game. Coming up making tackles can cover. Hey,

2918
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:59,240
Speaker 10: the exciting Whites are doing their thing.

2919
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:04,720
Speaker 4: They are're putting together a good football team at the

2920
02:11:04,800 --> 02:11:05,360
Speaker 4: end of this year.

2921
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:09,640
Speaker 10: What what team am I on?

2922
02:11:10,120 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 4: I personally I love to claim you. I love to

2923
02:11:13,200 --> 02:11:16,480
Speaker 4: claim you and say, Zach bond Is will be our

2924
02:11:16,520 --> 02:11:21,840
Speaker 4: green dot on defense. Listen, if you weren't asking me

2925
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 4: and I broke this down myself in December, you'll be

2926
02:11:26,040 --> 02:11:29,280
Speaker 4: on the team. And then from there, it's what happens

2927
02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:31,600
Speaker 4: whenever you know, guys kind of see it that they can.

2928
02:11:31,680 --> 02:11:34,240
Speaker 4: You know, I'm not on the Ald White team. I

2929
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 4: want to say, who is the Who's the safety for

2930
02:11:37,000 --> 02:11:38,120
Speaker 4: the Ravens?

2931
02:11:39,280 --> 02:11:40,560
Speaker 10: Who Hamilton?

2932
02:11:41,080 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 4: Hamilton? I claimed him a couple of years ago, but

2933
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:45,360
Speaker 4: they were kind of breaking down the footage and he

2934
02:11:45,360 --> 02:11:47,000
Speaker 4: said on a plane right after the game that he

2935
02:11:47,080 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 4: was a part of the All White team. And I'll like, hey, buddy,

2936
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,560
Speaker 4: we got you, like he went to Notre Dame. You know,

2937
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:53,080
Speaker 4: we get to kind of have them for a year.

2938
02:11:53,160 --> 02:11:56,160
Speaker 4: So it's more like I'll put the ball in your court.

2939
02:11:57,240 --> 02:11:59,720
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what we love to have you. I'm

2940
02:11:59,760 --> 02:12:02,120
Speaker 4: talking the world the red carpet out for your recruiting visit,

2941
02:12:02,640 --> 02:12:05,240
Speaker 4: there might be a lot more ego and guys trying

2942
02:12:05,240 --> 02:12:06,840
Speaker 4: to figure out who's gonna be playing on the roster.

2943
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:09,000
Speaker 4: I can guarantee you a starting spot right now on

2944
02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:10,760
Speaker 4: the All White squad. You want to have it, you'll

2945
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 4: be there. You got half yourself, you got half the

2946
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:13,400
Speaker 4: secondary already.

2947
02:12:13,400 --> 02:12:15,360
Speaker 10: You've got to say your parameters. I'm like, what are

2948
02:12:15,360 --> 02:12:17,320
Speaker 10: you doing with the mix the mixed guys?

2949
02:12:17,960 --> 02:12:21,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's usually it's usually if they say it's usually

2950
02:12:21,280 --> 02:12:23,440
Speaker 4: if they say the word or not they walk around

2951
02:12:23,440 --> 02:12:25,200
Speaker 4: they're saying the word. It's, you know, the kind of

2952
02:12:25,200 --> 02:12:29,480
Speaker 4: the language barrier a little bit. That's kind of my parameters.

2953
02:12:29,520 --> 02:12:31,400
Speaker 4: And now like he seems like a seems like a

2954
02:12:31,440 --> 02:12:33,520
Speaker 4: type of guy who's gonna be on the all White

2955
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 4: squad this year?

2956
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:37,200
Speaker 3: Are you so you bringing this up? Are you saying, hey,

2957
02:12:37,200 --> 02:12:39,040
Speaker 3: Will Compton, I would like to be on the All

2958
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:41,280
Speaker 3: White team this year. I like to make that squad.

2959
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 10: It's it's you guys are the head coaches.

2960
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:45,520
Speaker 4: I guess yeah, trust me, you got you got you

2961
02:12:45,720 --> 02:12:49,160
Speaker 4: because I already got the already got the pitch for you.

2962
02:12:49,160 --> 02:12:51,800
Speaker 4: You got red, you got Cooper Degen. Riley Moss is

2963
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:54,440
Speaker 4: out there in Denver, super familiar with Cooper Degene. You

2964
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:56,720
Speaker 4: guys are communicating on the back end as well as

2965
02:12:56,760 --> 02:13:01,839
Speaker 4: any any unit in the country. So listen, we would thrive.

2966
02:13:02,160 --> 02:13:06,600
Speaker 4: We would thrive with you on the old white Hey,

2967
02:13:06,600 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 4: what's this? I want you to school me up here?

2968
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:12,240
Speaker 4: What is this? What is this run Scape I'm hearing

2969
02:13:12,240 --> 02:13:16,200
Speaker 4: about RuneScape? Runescpe? What is this RuneScape I'm hearing about?

2970
02:13:16,440 --> 02:13:18,160
Speaker 4: You know, you did a you did a shout out

2971
02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:20,680
Speaker 4: for the eagles or social post that's going viral. Yeah,

2972
02:13:20,680 --> 02:13:22,200
Speaker 4: you played a big time as a kid.

2973
02:13:23,040 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 10: RuneScape's an old game that I used to play as

2974
02:13:25,800 --> 02:13:30,280
Speaker 10: a kid. I think it came out like early two thousands,

2975
02:13:30,920 --> 02:13:33,640
Speaker 10: like retro kind of like a World of Warcraft type

2976
02:13:33,680 --> 02:13:36,960
Speaker 10: games that I just found out they have on mobile now,

2977
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,480
Speaker 10: so I hot back on and really been enjoying it.

2978
02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:41,040
Speaker 4: Did you ever play?

2979
02:13:41,240 --> 02:13:42,240
Speaker 10: You guys play? No?

2980
02:13:42,240 --> 02:13:42,720
Speaker 4: No, no.

2981
02:13:42,800 --> 02:13:44,680
Speaker 3: You can tell by Will's pronunciation of the game he

2982
02:13:44,720 --> 02:13:46,640
Speaker 3: hasn't played the game yet. But I also have not

2983
02:13:46,720 --> 02:13:48,960
Speaker 3: played the game. You bring up World of Warcraft? Are

2984
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:50,920
Speaker 3: you familiar at all with the oblo.

2985
02:13:52,160 --> 02:13:54,480
Speaker 10: No, damn, ask him about that.

2986
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:56,040
Speaker 4: Ask him about that dinosaur one?

2987
02:13:56,400 --> 02:13:58,640
Speaker 3: Oh arc You are you familiar with the game ARC.

2988
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:01,440
Speaker 10: I've heard of our part of ARC. I played. I

2989
02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:03,440
Speaker 10: played for probably twenty minutes, and I didn't like it.

2990
02:14:03,680 --> 02:14:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's fair because when you start, you're basically

2991
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,560
Speaker 3: in survival mode for the first fifty levels before you

2992
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:11,400
Speaker 3: can essentially sustain a life with these prehistoric animals. It's

2993
02:14:11,480 --> 02:14:14,560
Speaker 3: very difficult to do. But I've I've found myself in

2994
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:18,160
Speaker 3: a very weird, weird world with ARC. My wife's one

2995
02:14:18,200 --> 02:14:20,600
Speaker 3: of my wife's best friends met a guy on ARC.

2996
02:14:20,720 --> 02:14:23,320
Speaker 3: They are now married in Canada. It's a long story.

2997
02:14:23,440 --> 02:14:25,520
Speaker 3: You have too much, you don't have enough time.

2998
02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:28,560
Speaker 4: We can talk. My problem with ARC is just that

2999
02:14:29,200 --> 02:14:31,280
Speaker 4: you could build up all these levels, but if some

3000
02:14:31,400 --> 02:14:33,440
Speaker 4: crew comes in and takes you over, you're starting from

3001
02:14:33,480 --> 02:14:34,360
Speaker 4: ground zero.

3002
02:14:34,240 --> 02:14:35,640
Speaker 3: Right, Right, That's why you need to see.

3003
02:14:36,120 --> 02:14:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, when you turn the game off, like you're still

3004
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:39,120
Speaker 4: like sleeping, you're alive.

3005
02:14:39,200 --> 02:14:39,320
Speaker 10: Right.

3006
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:40,720
Speaker 3: You have to like essentially go to bed in the

3007
02:14:40,720 --> 02:14:43,040
Speaker 3: game at any point, and it's always I'm not going

3008
02:14:43,080 --> 02:14:44,920
Speaker 3: to say the ethnicity that gets you, but there's a

3009
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:47,720
Speaker 3: one there's one ethnicity that always comes and gets your

3010
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:49,920
Speaker 3: ass while you're gone.

3011
02:14:50,560 --> 02:14:51,760
Speaker 10: I know you're right, You're right, you're right.

3012
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:56,040
Speaker 3: But my buddy of my wife's friend, she got married

3013
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:58,280
Speaker 3: to a guy named Joe who's like gotta be top

3014
02:14:58,320 --> 02:15:01,480
Speaker 3: fifty player in the world. And we meet him via

3015
02:15:01,560 --> 02:15:04,120
Speaker 3: online and now we're like riding around in jet packs

3016
02:15:04,120 --> 02:15:04,640
Speaker 3: like we were.

3017
02:15:04,760 --> 02:15:08,360
Speaker 4: We're living cush out there in the art world.

3018
02:15:08,440 --> 02:15:10,200
Speaker 3: You got to come back and revisit for a second.

3019
02:15:10,280 --> 02:15:12,920
Speaker 4: I love back in like the old Testament days. You're

3020
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:16,640
Speaker 4: marrying for like supreme protection. Yeah, and she married in

3021
02:15:16,640 --> 02:15:18,080
Speaker 4: to somebody who's the top towns player.

3022
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:24,480
Speaker 3: It's exactly that's exactly what she's doing right now. Uh,

3023
02:15:24,880 --> 02:15:27,640
Speaker 3: talk to me about Vic Fangio. What kind of DC

3024
02:15:27,760 --> 02:15:30,200
Speaker 3: are we? Is he like a players coach type of guy?

3025
02:15:30,280 --> 02:15:32,160
Speaker 3: Is he a hard nosed cat and he's got a

3026
02:15:32,160 --> 02:15:34,040
Speaker 3: good personality on him, like break him down.

3027
02:15:33,920 --> 02:15:35,400
Speaker 4: For se like, oh, he could be in a bad

3028
02:15:35,440 --> 02:15:37,560
Speaker 4: mood today, let's not jab him a whole lot.

3029
02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3030
02:15:38,960 --> 02:15:41,560
Speaker 10: No, he's kind of a player's coach and a like

3031
02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:44,160
Speaker 10: a hard nosed guy. He wants everyone to succeed and

3032
02:15:44,200 --> 02:15:46,800
Speaker 10: do their best, but at the same time he's like

3033
02:15:46,920 --> 02:15:49,560
Speaker 10: gonna get on you to do it. But it's not

3034
02:15:50,080 --> 02:15:52,720
Speaker 10: it's direct and indirect at the same time. Like he's

3035
02:15:53,040 --> 02:15:55,280
Speaker 10: he'll drill into guys, but then he'll also like throw

3036
02:15:55,280 --> 02:15:58,400
Speaker 10: a little shade or jabs. It's all accountability, is what

3037
02:15:58,480 --> 02:15:59,160
Speaker 10: it comes down to.

3038
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:04,760
Speaker 4: Somebody I'm absolutely terrified by is a Jalen Carter yep Oh.

3039
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:08,960
Speaker 4: Is there is anybody saying a word to him after

3040
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:11,960
Speaker 4: the Dallas Cowboys game from week one when he spent Yeah,

3041
02:16:11,960 --> 02:16:15,120
Speaker 4: when he when the whole spit thing happened, or is

3042
02:16:15,120 --> 02:16:18,240
Speaker 4: that he probably knows we're just gonna we're gonna let

3043
02:16:18,280 --> 02:16:18,920
Speaker 4: the old boy be.

3044
02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:22,240
Speaker 10: He knew what he did. He knew immediately that what

3045
02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:25,040
Speaker 10: he did was wrong. But yeah, we we we went

3046
02:16:25,120 --> 02:16:27,160
Speaker 10: up and talked to him, like you can't be doing

3047
02:16:27,160 --> 02:16:30,360
Speaker 10: that obviously. But there was a time last year and

3048
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:33,080
Speaker 10: I'm new, so I don't really know. JC is probably

3049
02:16:33,160 --> 02:16:36,560
Speaker 10: Game three or four. He does what he does and

3050
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:38,320
Speaker 10: swims out of his gap to make a play. I

3051
02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:40,840
Speaker 10: get it, but I in the game in the moment,

3052
02:16:40,879 --> 02:16:43,600
Speaker 10: I'm like, you gotta be in your gap, like come on,

3053
02:16:44,240 --> 02:16:46,160
Speaker 10: And He's like, don't tell me how to play football, bro,

3054
02:16:46,440 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 10: And I'm like, hey, yeah, go ahead, Hey, I'll make

3055
02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:50,440
Speaker 10: you right.

3056
02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:53,840
Speaker 3: Yeah you know what, Jac, You're absolutely right. I should

3057
02:16:53,840 --> 02:16:55,680
Speaker 3: have been in your gap in that situation. I saw

3058
02:16:55,720 --> 02:16:56,640
Speaker 3: what you were doing there.

3059
02:16:56,600 --> 02:16:59,080
Speaker 4: Zeb trying to do some like leadership stuff like hey

3060
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:00,880
Speaker 4: hey hey, come on, hey, I need you in this set.

3061
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:03,160
Speaker 4: Do that. This is how it hurts the back end. Man,

3062
02:17:03,240 --> 02:17:05,440
Speaker 4: shut up. He'll teach me how to play football. Hey,

3063
02:17:05,640 --> 02:17:08,960
Speaker 4: big guy, that's on me. You're right, you know what.

3064
02:17:09,320 --> 02:17:12,800
Speaker 10: I really really good dude, though, really good dude, solid dude,

3065
02:17:12,879 --> 02:17:13,480
Speaker 10: great football.

3066
02:17:13,520 --> 02:17:16,440
Speaker 3: No it sounds like a terrifying dude, but a solid dude. Nonetheless,

3067
02:17:16,920 --> 02:17:20,320
Speaker 3: this is the guy, tam Yes, yeah, yeah, it's the guy.

3068
02:17:21,480 --> 02:17:23,320
Speaker 4: He's like, really good dude, Yes, as long as he's

3069
02:17:23,360 --> 02:17:23,800
Speaker 4: got my.

3070
02:17:23,720 --> 02:17:26,400
Speaker 3: Bright like as he's got my picture like Zach Bond

3071
02:17:26,400 --> 02:17:28,440
Speaker 3: and like five other guys that way over two to

3072
02:17:28,520 --> 02:17:32,080
Speaker 3: eighty walking up to j C being like you understand,

3073
02:17:32,120 --> 02:17:34,320
Speaker 3: like we probably shouldn't spit on guys, right, and just

3074
02:17:34,400 --> 02:17:36,519
Speaker 3: kind of like waiting to see how he handles.

3075
02:17:36,320 --> 02:17:38,160
Speaker 4: Or like when they're walking up to him, like hey,

3076
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:39,960
Speaker 4: so ZB, you're going to say are you going to

3077
02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:42,000
Speaker 4: say the first like are you going to start the conversation?

3078
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:46,280
Speaker 3: And yeah yeah, and then ZB walks up He's like, hey, man, Lane,

3079
02:17:46,280 --> 02:17:47,800
Speaker 3: wanted to tell you something real quick. I just want

3080
02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 3: to let you know they just put Lane n Lane

3081
02:17:49,600 --> 02:17:51,440
Speaker 3: Johnson under the bus, like you got to handle this.

3082
02:17:52,520 --> 02:17:55,600
Speaker 10: It's the funniest thing is on like punt Safe when

3083
02:17:55,640 --> 02:17:58,120
Speaker 10: we leave our defense out there, just going up to

3084
02:17:58,200 --> 02:18:00,840
Speaker 10: the like the right guard and be like, hey, JC,

3085
02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:04,720
Speaker 10: that poor.

3086
02:18:04,560 --> 02:18:07,119
Speaker 4: Bastard's bucklet is just a little bit tight in there,

3087
02:18:07,240 --> 02:18:09,560
Speaker 4: right guard And I'm just hearing that, and he big

3088
02:18:09,600 --> 02:18:13,480
Speaker 4: dog like, you know we can yeah, yeah, And I

3089
02:18:13,520 --> 02:18:16,920
Speaker 4: promise you we're not We are not running up we'ren

3090
02:18:18,080 --> 02:18:18,800
Speaker 4: I swear to guy.

3091
02:18:19,760 --> 02:18:22,680
Speaker 3: Dude, one guy that brought up j C and like

3092
02:18:22,720 --> 02:18:25,920
Speaker 3: the hey you got this guy. Awesome guy, but definitely

3093
02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:27,680
Speaker 3: you don't want to get on his bad side. Big

3094
02:18:27,760 --> 02:18:29,879
Speaker 3: Dom was talking about him when we were at camp.

3095
02:18:30,640 --> 02:18:32,959
Speaker 3: You don't seem like the guy that Big Dom has

3096
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:35,359
Speaker 3: to deal with all of the time. But how crucial

3097
02:18:35,400 --> 02:18:37,080
Speaker 3: is Big Dom to the Philadelphia Eagles.

3098
02:18:38,280 --> 02:18:40,920
Speaker 10: Big Dom is huge. He's got all the little insights

3099
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:43,680
Speaker 10: on everyone. He knows what everyone around the building is doing,

3100
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:47,160
Speaker 10: who they're talking to, who they're hanging out with. He's

3101
02:18:47,200 --> 02:18:50,040
Speaker 10: he's intertwined not only with the Eagles, but like the

3102
02:18:50,080 --> 02:18:52,119
Speaker 10: whole city. He's in there.

3103
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:55,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm picking up what you're putting down sopranos.

3104
02:18:56,400 --> 02:18:59,000
Speaker 10: I mean he might be, he might be not confirmed.

3105
02:18:58,720 --> 02:19:01,359
Speaker 3: Not confirmed. That is exactly he wants. He wants us guessing.

3106
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:03,320
Speaker 4: It's one of those I feel like big Doms, like

3107
02:19:03,360 --> 02:19:06,200
Speaker 4: the noise could be super loud around the Eagles the

3108
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:07,920
Speaker 4: locker room. It's like it's louder than it is in

3109
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,000
Speaker 4: the locker room. But if you want to know something,

3110
02:19:10,040 --> 02:19:11,520
Speaker 4: you just go up like, hey, big Dom, do we

3111
02:19:11,560 --> 02:19:13,840
Speaker 4: have this? Is everything kind of figured out with so

3112
02:19:13,920 --> 02:19:16,640
Speaker 4: and so or between these guys and just kind of

3113
02:19:16,640 --> 02:19:18,040
Speaker 4: like a nod. Yeah, we gotta take Carol.

3114
02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. Dom's always a guy. It's gonna yeah, Yeah, I'm

3115
02:19:20,240 --> 02:19:22,280
Speaker 3: unhandling it. I'm handling it, no problem.

3116
02:19:24,520 --> 02:19:26,240
Speaker 4: Should we do a bud light question?

3117
02:19:26,320 --> 02:19:26,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

3118
02:19:27,080 --> 02:19:30,120
Speaker 4: Like question, all right, Zach. People would do anything for

3119
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:33,960
Speaker 4: an ice cold bud light, no doubt. Umm having a

3120
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:36,440
Speaker 4: bud light with somebody who is somebody that you'd love

3121
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:38,560
Speaker 4: to sit down and have an ice cold bud light with,

3122
02:19:39,320 --> 02:19:42,520
Speaker 4: whether it's past present, somebody that you just love to

3123
02:19:42,600 --> 02:19:47,280
Speaker 4: have a few beers with, some conversations, some fun, could

3124
02:19:47,320 --> 02:19:48,680
Speaker 4: be anybody, anybody.

3125
02:19:51,160 --> 02:19:53,160
Speaker 10: I'll keep it in the football world and I'll say

3126
02:19:53,560 --> 02:19:57,480
Speaker 10: Darren Rizzy, the special teams coordinator for the Broncos. Yeah,

3127
02:19:57,680 --> 02:20:01,520
Speaker 10: no shit, great dude, great dude, awesome dude. He was

3128
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:03,840
Speaker 10: my coordinator with the Saints. Yeah. I would definitely have

3129
02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:05,760
Speaker 10: more than one bud light with him.

3130
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:08,720
Speaker 4: Dude. He always had the vibes high. When I was

3131
02:20:08,840 --> 02:20:11,720
Speaker 4: again there for a couple of coffee. You go into

3132
02:20:11,760 --> 02:20:14,080
Speaker 4: the special teams meeting and that you guys would have

3133
02:20:14,160 --> 02:20:17,920
Speaker 4: shirts going on for plays that get made, and everybody

3134
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:19,880
Speaker 4: seemed to love this dude. And then when he was

3135
02:20:19,879 --> 02:20:22,000
Speaker 4: the interim head coach, what was it a couple of

3136
02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:24,400
Speaker 4: years ago where he stepped in Yeah last year, Yeah,

3137
02:20:24,480 --> 02:20:26,400
Speaker 4: last year and out of the gate. I want to

3138
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:28,400
Speaker 4: say the Saints. They ended up winning a couple of

3139
02:20:28,400 --> 02:20:28,960
Speaker 4: games with them.

3140
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:31,360
Speaker 3: It always happens an interim head coach except for the Titan.

3141
02:20:31,480 --> 02:20:33,840
Speaker 10: Just a great dude, Just a great dude, especially.

3142
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:35,680
Speaker 4: When it's a special teams coordinator too. So you two

3143
02:20:35,760 --> 02:20:37,920
Speaker 4: played together with the Saints. I don't know, if I

3144
02:20:37,920 --> 02:20:38,240
Speaker 4: don't know.

3145
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:41,400
Speaker 10: Possibly I wasn't. I wasn't with you. I was like

3146
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:43,720
Speaker 10: right after you, yeah, because you were you were there

3147
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:44,480
Speaker 10: in twenty nineteen.

3148
02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:46,920
Speaker 4: Twenty nineteen was when I was there in training camp

3149
02:20:46,959 --> 02:20:49,280
Speaker 4: for a moment, I was ready to light the world

3150
02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:51,240
Speaker 4: on fire, but you know, I caught a little ankle.

3151
02:20:50,959 --> 02:20:52,480
Speaker 3: Spray, little ankle spray. Had to get that.

3152
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:54,160
Speaker 10: Down.

3153
02:20:54,280 --> 02:20:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, They're like alex ads alone was down and they

3154
02:20:56,640 --> 02:20:58,760
Speaker 4: had I want to say, maybe a couple like inside

3155
02:20:58,840 --> 02:21:00,760
Speaker 4: backers that were down. So I ended up getting brought

3156
02:21:00,800 --> 02:21:03,240
Speaker 4: in around the third preseason game. Went into the fourth

3157
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:06,160
Speaker 4: preseason game to get reps at like one base before

3158
02:21:06,160 --> 02:21:08,240
Speaker 4: we got ready for Week one because they needed a

3159
02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:13,200
Speaker 4: base mike backer basically essentially until Alexandzeloni's shoulder got right.

3160
02:21:13,760 --> 02:21:16,240
Speaker 4: And then I went down in that fourth preseason game.

3161
02:21:16,360 --> 02:21:19,240
Speaker 4: It which sucked because the vibes of the Saints seemed awesome,

3162
02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:21,600
Speaker 4: The locker room seemed the all time and Rizzy he

3163
02:21:21,720 --> 02:21:24,120
Speaker 4: was talking about like guys just everybody like that was

3164
02:21:24,160 --> 02:21:26,280
Speaker 4: a fun organization. For the moment I was there at

3165
02:21:26,320 --> 02:21:29,400
Speaker 4: practice was fun everything. Yeah, and uh then after that,

3166
02:21:29,480 --> 02:21:32,160
Speaker 4: I got a little injury settlement and then they that's

3167
02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:35,640
Speaker 4: when they traded for Keiko Alonso and then Alexanderloni comes

3168
02:21:35,680 --> 02:21:38,200
Speaker 4: back nights with the Lions, like playing some good ball, gotcha.

3169
02:21:38,520 --> 02:21:41,120
Speaker 10: But yeah, it seems like everyone that leaves the Saints

3170
02:21:41,200 --> 02:21:44,640
Speaker 10: is playing good ball right now? All right, everyone, everyone

3171
02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:46,480
Speaker 10: that leaves the Saints has a seat on their chest

3172
02:21:46,800 --> 02:21:48,080
Speaker 10: playing playing good football.

3173
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

3174
02:21:48,440 --> 02:21:51,400
Speaker 4: And then the old guard, the captains like Cam Jordan

3175
02:21:51,600 --> 02:21:53,960
Speaker 4: and the Mario Davis like they're still sticking around, and

3176
02:21:54,040 --> 02:21:55,720
Speaker 4: it's like, fuck boys, we've got to put some good

3177
02:21:55,760 --> 02:21:58,440
Speaker 4: ball together right now. We got our teeth have been

3178
02:21:58,440 --> 02:22:00,200
Speaker 4: cutting this organization for two all.

3179
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:04,520
Speaker 10: No doubt about tough times down there, Zach.

3180
02:22:04,560 --> 02:22:06,440
Speaker 3: We appreciate you coming on the show man. This has

3181
02:22:06,480 --> 02:22:08,640
Speaker 3: been awesome. I can't wait for December when Will comes

3182
02:22:08,680 --> 02:22:11,240
Speaker 3: out with this all white, all black team. I'm assuming I.

3183
02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:13,240
Speaker 4: Don't do I'll do the other sides for everybody else.

3184
02:22:13,360 --> 02:22:15,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sorry, all white team, that's right. Yeah. I

3185
02:22:15,959 --> 02:22:19,120
Speaker 3: think the line right now, the futures line is minus

3186
02:22:20,240 --> 02:22:21,760
Speaker 3: what thirty one and a half?

3187
02:22:22,360 --> 02:22:24,400
Speaker 4: No, I don't think truly, I don't think it's that

3188
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Speaker 4: deep at all. I promise you we got a squad

3189
02:22:26,680 --> 02:22:28,480
Speaker 4: and we get better each and every year a new

3190
02:22:28,600 --> 02:22:29,680
Speaker 4: dB comes in the league.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, do you think that's where you're light? Always?

3192
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Speaker 10: Department always?

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Speaker 4: I think, yeah, one thousand percent. I mean, think of

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Speaker 4: what other position group are we potentially light in like

3195
02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:43,959
Speaker 4: we're deep along the trenches. We got second level players.

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02:22:44,680 --> 02:22:47,440
Speaker 4: We got us you know, tight in. We got guys

3197
02:22:47,560 --> 02:22:51,920
Speaker 4: like a wide receiver. Surprisingly, we got some good depth there. Yeah,

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02:22:51,959 --> 02:22:54,720
Speaker 4: Pooka Nakoula. He hasn't said nothing over the last couple

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Speaker 4: of years. So well I've been able to claim him

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Speaker 4: and get away with it.

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Speaker 10: That's that's that he's probably that is between the Paully's.

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Speaker 3: The Paulis are fair game.

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking Polly he was what a fifth round guy? Yeah,

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02:23:07,480 --> 02:23:10,480
Speaker 4: so that's e shinder type of grinder mentality.

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02:23:10,800 --> 02:23:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, ran a little slower, little slower forty like just

3206
02:23:15,879 --> 02:23:17,840
Speaker 3: put the tape on. He's got game speed. That's when

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Speaker 3: you know that's our guy.

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Speaker 4: You know, that's our goal. We gotta do is just filter,

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02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:24,720
Speaker 4: just filter this episode just a little bit more, because

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02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:26,920
Speaker 4: right now we got Zach. We got Zach ball.

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02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's gonna come out. But Zach, how do

3212
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:31,560
Speaker 3: you feel about this? And it's up to you to

3213
02:23:31,680 --> 02:23:33,680
Speaker 3: be standing here, to be on a plane under away game.

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02:23:35,160 --> 02:23:37,800
Speaker 3: Jac's gonna coach and be like, man, what's this about, dude?

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02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:39,760
Speaker 4: You got the ball ahead, you got a nice goate

3216
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:41,920
Speaker 4: going on that screams, I got a Harley in the

3217
02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:46,920
Speaker 4: in the garage, right fun?

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Speaker 10: Is your hair growing back little?

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02:23:51,800 --> 02:23:54,440
Speaker 4: I'll show you, Yeah, it's it's grown back pretty well.

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02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:56,320
Speaker 4: I do have kind of the m set and it's

3221
02:23:56,360 --> 02:23:58,120
Speaker 4: a little lighter in the cold de sac here. You

3222
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Speaker 4: could land a plane on it if you wanted to.

3223
02:24:01,480 --> 02:24:04,040
Speaker 4: But we're coming back pretty strong right now. In my opinion,

3224
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Speaker 4: I like it in my heads.

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Speaker 10: Are you going to grow grow it out? Or was

3226
02:24:07,560 --> 02:24:10,440
Speaker 10: that like a test test to see if you had

3227
02:24:10,480 --> 02:24:10,960
Speaker 10: to shave it?

3228
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Speaker 4: My wife really wants me to grow it out. But

3229
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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, I really don't mind the short hair life,

3230
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Speaker 4: even the bald head. I didn't mind the bold head.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 4: Would you think, like you're a fellow bald guy, Like,

3233
02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:21,920
Speaker 4: would you love me wrapping the bold squad?

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Speaker 10: Absolutely, it's all about It's all about the head shape.

3235
02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:27,680
Speaker 10: Like if you've got a solid head shape, you can

3236
02:24:27,959 --> 02:24:29,600
Speaker 10: and facial hair you can, you can join.

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02:24:29,840 --> 02:24:31,920
Speaker 4: So you think I pull up the head shape, well.

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Speaker 10: I think it's solid. Once you get a little tan

3239
02:24:34,440 --> 02:24:35,840
Speaker 10: up up top there, you'll be all right.

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Speaker 4: That's the key. That's the key. You get some sunlight

3241
02:24:38,280 --> 02:24:41,360
Speaker 4: on it, dude, we appreciate you, man, Thank you for

3242
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:44,240
Speaker 4: taking time on a Monday. Good luck this week, get

3243
02:24:44,360 --> 02:24:47,080
Speaker 4: fucking get your guys, revenge back, get the mojo going again.

3244
02:24:47,360 --> 02:24:50,240
Speaker 4: In the off season, we would absolutely love to have

3245
02:24:50,360 --> 02:24:51,600
Speaker 4: you on the bus so we can do a little

3246
02:24:51,640 --> 02:24:53,040
Speaker 4: bit more long form. We're not in the middle of

3247
02:24:53,040 --> 02:24:55,760
Speaker 4: the season. Yeah, a couple of things. We gotta, you know,

3248
02:24:55,800 --> 02:24:57,480
Speaker 4: you gotta kind of hey, we're having fun on the show,

3249
02:24:57,520 --> 02:24:59,760
Speaker 4: but also we're in the middle of the season. But

3250
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Speaker 4: we would love to have you on in Nashville in

3251
02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:02,039
Speaker 4: the offseason.

3252
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Speaker 10: Yeah, I gotta get down there have to be sick.

3253
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Speaker 4: Apprecire brother, appreciate everybody, give me one of plus.

3254
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Speaker 10: Thanks for having me, guys, I love that.

3255
02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:11,040
Speaker 4: Thank you.

3256
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Speaker 3: Broing on man, it is a pain in the ass

3257
02:25:12,800 --> 02:25:14,240
Speaker 3: to do this during the season, so it does mean

3258
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Speaker 3: a lot.

3259
02:25:14,680 --> 02:25:17,800
Speaker 10: Yeah, is this the first virtual one you guys have done.

3260
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:20,920
Speaker 4: We've just started kind of doing virtuals. You're kind of

3261
02:25:21,240 --> 02:25:23,760
Speaker 4: he's like the first player that we've had after a

3262
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:27,039
Speaker 4: game virtual. We've been trying to get like college coaches

3263
02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:29,840
Speaker 4: will hop on. We haven't gotten any NFL coach yet,

3264
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:32,200
Speaker 4: but we've kind of pivoted to where we're gonna get

3265
02:25:32,200 --> 02:25:34,879
Speaker 4: some more virtual stuff just because people love talking football.

3266
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Speaker 3: Twenty four sevens Yeah this this season, it's either football

3267
02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:39,440
Speaker 3: or nothing. If we put anything else out there other

3268
02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:40,840
Speaker 3: than the football, they're like, get it out of here.

3269
02:25:40,920 --> 02:25:43,000
Speaker 4: But yeah, you're the first player, so we appreciate you.

3270
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Speaker 10: Yeah, you guys are killing it. Dude, I'm sorry I

3271
02:25:45,200 --> 02:25:46,400
Speaker 10: missed you during training camps.

3272
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Speaker 4: Oh you're good man, good good man, Thank you, brother

3273
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Speaker 4: of us.

3274
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Speaker 3: Appreciate you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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