WEBVTT - Popcorn Popout: KPop Demon Hunters 0:00:00.680 --> 0:00:05.720 Wanning. Today's episode contains spoilers for the smash hit animated 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:09.119 movie on Netflix, K Pop Demon Hunters, So if you 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:11.760 haven't watched it, go watch it because it's amazing, or 0:00:11.840 --> 0:00:14.160 listen to this and then realize how amazing it is 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:32.640 and go watch it. Hello, my name is Rosie Knight, 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:35.519 and welcome back to X ray Vision, the podcast where 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:38.720 we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics and 0:00:38.800 --> 0:00:41.919 pop culture. We are here at iHeart Podcast where we'll 0:00:41.920 --> 0:00:45.640 be bringing you episodes every Tuesday Thursday, and the summer's 0:00:45.720 --> 0:00:49.320 biggest movie news and talk on Friday, Popcorn pop Out, 0:00:49.760 --> 0:00:53.440 and a little way of news on a Saturday. In 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:57.240 today's episode, I am joined by two of the most 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.560 super of our super producers, Joelle and our And to 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:04.520 discuss the surprise animated smash of the summer K Pop 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:07.840 Demon Hunters. We're gonna recap the movie quickly, then Aaron 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:10.600 is gonna take us through the voices behind K Pop 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:14.160 Demon Hunter's chart topping music, featuring a custom playlist of 0:01:14.240 --> 0:01:17.920 some favorite fictional boy band and girl groups. Joel has 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:21.720 done an incredible investigation of Sony's animation projects and what 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:23.760 they've got coming up. So we'll dip into that in 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:27.480 the omnibus. And remember, guys, I just got some DMS 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.200 about this, so I guess the Rebirth episodes are just 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.720 coming out. People are listening to them. They've seen Jurassic Park. 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.520 We will be at SDCC San Diego Comic Con. Xtra 0:01:36.640 --> 0:01:39.560 Vision is gonna be there Thursday at twelve thirty. Our 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.720 panel with the Roddenbury Does It Fly Podcast will be 0:01:42.800 --> 0:01:46.600 in Room twenty four ABC. Me and Jason will be 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.760 there on that panel talking science, pop culture, all the 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:53.320 things we love. Then come join us at Petco Park 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.600 at four pm for the chance to bid on real 0:01:55.720 --> 0:02:00.000 Superman comic book art. And on Saturday we'll be retured 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:03.320 learning to pet Coo for a Godzilla auction with IDW 0:02:03.520 --> 0:02:07.280 super seven and of course Den of Geek. Then you 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:09.560 want to hang out with Jason Concepcion, I know you do, 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:11.440 I know I do, And guess what, I'll be there 0:02:11.440 --> 0:02:14.120 too with Joel and Ian and you can join us 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:16.720 at the Mission Brewery for a meet and greet and 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.320 a live podcast recording. But first let's talk about K 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:28.120 pop Demon Hunters. Okay, Aaron and Joel, welcome to the show. 0:02:28.520 --> 0:02:32.960 Thank you very excited to go into some of the 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:36.600 best music to come out of film in a long time. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:40.600 I feel like, yes, Aaron, let's talk. Let's start with you, 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:42.760 how did you hear about K pop Demon Hunters? Because 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:46.120 you were the early trendsetter for our pod on this one. 0:02:46.160 --> 0:02:47.400 You were the one who saw it first. 0:02:47.639 --> 0:02:51.919 So I think, as someone who is Chinese, I am 0:02:52.400 --> 0:02:55.840 subscribed to or following a lot of Asian American art 0:02:56.520 --> 0:02:59.440 accounts and influencers, and this started showing up quite a 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:02.440 bit as like, hey, this film is coming out on Netflix, 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.760 it's animated, it's about K pop stars. No shortage of 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:12.680 K pop focused shows or movies, but this one seemed 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.679 a little different and was like, you know, there have 0:03:14.760 --> 0:03:17.120 been some other things with kind of fighting demons as 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:20.240 K pop stars, et cetera, but this seemed a little interesting. 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.680 So I watched it that opening weekend, and I think 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.240 in the beginning I was like, Wow, music's pretty good. 0:03:25.280 --> 0:03:30.839 I'm surprised, and there's like a point where when they 0:03:31.240 --> 0:03:34.240 go through Golden I was like, this is this is 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.160 not just like a couple good things. This is a 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:40.800 very well put together thing. And then I think what 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.000 sealed it for me was the Cat and the Magpie, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.840 The Tiger and the Magpie. That I was just like, Okay, 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:47.920 I need to like pay one hundred percent attention because 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:48.640 this is like credible. 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:49.640 I need to be in. 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:50.119 Yes. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.000 Yeah. So the movie was released on June twentieth, twenty 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:58.400 twenty five, on Netflix, directed by Maggie Kang Chris Applehans 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:05.040 and starring Ardentchoa's Roomy, Mayhong's Mirror, and Jijong Zhou as Zoe. 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:10.640 And they are three K pop superstars who are part 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:15.560 of a traditional lineage of demon hunters, and their role 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:22.840 is essentially to stop demons feeding on humans by creating 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:28.520 a magical kind of gate called the hon Moon or 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:33.000 the Golden hom Moon. And we get to see the 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:36.440 in a really lovely opening scene that again, I think 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:39.120 was the moment where I sort of understood, like, oh, 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:42.560 this isn't a K pop movie because k pop is 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.159 popular right now and Netflix wants to make something this 0:04:45.320 --> 0:04:50.280 is a gorgeously animated sony movie with people who love 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.640 Korean music and love the history of cre culture. Yes, 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:57.359 and Korean culture. We get this gorgeous kind of We 0:04:57.480 --> 0:05:00.440 open with this gorgeous look back through history. We get 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:03.080 to see the Demons, which are really really cool and 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:06.440 nicely designed and very interesting. But then we also get 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:11.360 to see the different trio girl groups through the ages, 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:15.040 which I thought was so fantastic and so lovely, and 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:19.039 we eventually get to see Hunterricks which is our main group, Rumy, 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.440 Mirror and Zoe, and they are trained by the very sexy, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:28.440 older but very evil coded with her gray hair Selene, 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:34.200 who basically was a Demon Hunter and is now ready 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:39.880 for the girls to release their big bad song Golden, which, 0:05:40.040 --> 0:05:42.719 as Aaron mentions, you get into and you start to 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.839 realize like, oh, these are the kind of songs that 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.160 are going to be in your head for a long time, 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.240 and also, as we have seen, have gone on to 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:57.200 become incredible smash hits K pop. Demon Hunters is the 0:05:57.240 --> 0:06:00.839 highest charting soundtrack of twenty twenty five, earning what they 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.640 would say is like the equivalent of seventy five thousand 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.560 album units. In its third week, Golden is in the 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.520 top ten of the Hot one hundred with eighteen point 0:06:09.600 --> 0:06:14.720 eight million streams, nine hundred and fifty thousand airplay impressions. 0:06:14.760 --> 0:06:19.159 Thanks Variety, and the entire Demon Hunter's soundtrack has logged 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:25.960 ninety six million on demand official streams, so they're in 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.400 the twenty twenties. They've only have There been three other 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.000 soundtracks that have reached the top two on Billboard two 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:35.120 hundred Wicked, which debuted and peaked at number two, Barbie 0:06:35.400 --> 0:06:39.559 also number two debut, and Encanto, which spent nine weeks 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:42.520 at number one in twenty twenty two and was second 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.560 in twenty twenty three. All of those were nominated, so 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.440 this is kind of a big gonna be a big 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.920 push for Netflix, even though that might not have been 0:06:50.960 --> 0:06:54.120 their original plan, seeing as this is being seen as 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:58.279 a huge surprise, Joelle, before we start getting into the 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:02.200 surprises in the twist of capop themeon Hunters, how did 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:03.440 you find out about it? 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:07.359 So? I messaged our good friend Laura a few weeks 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:09.000 before it came out because she had been promoting it 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.200 on her page, and I was like, so, I'm seeing 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.640 it the posters and everything. It looks cool. Tell me 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:16.600 about it. And Lara was like, girl, it's so good, 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:18.000 and I was like, but how good is it really? 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.560 She's like She's like, I'm gonna hedge my bats because 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:22.480 they don't want to overhype it because again, the movie 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.760 was not out yet, so she's just enjoying all the 0:07:24.800 --> 0:07:28.000 goodness by herself. And she was like, but I really 0:07:28.040 --> 0:07:29.400 liked it, and I was like, Okay, I'm gonna give 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:30.840 it a shot. So when it first came out, I said, no, 0:07:30.920 --> 0:07:32.720 I'm not going to get into it's too early and 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:35.160 my heart is tender. I fall in love with things 0:07:35.160 --> 0:07:39.640 too easily. I'm gonna wait a day where my dog 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.640 was a daycare and my brother was out of the house, 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:43.920 and I said, no one will judge me for watching 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.600 this movie. Okay, I won't be interrupted. 0:07:46.240 --> 0:07:48.520 In the cinephile household exactly. 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.200 I'm gonna buckle in and get into this. And I 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:56.240 was hooked. Like the airplane fight scene, like parachuting down 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:57.680 the stadium was way cool. 0:07:58.840 --> 0:08:01.360 I agree, Like the tie you're in the bird the little. 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:04.720 Hat was always little and the tiger was little. I 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.360 just said, so cute. But then but then my favorite song, 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:09.880 this is what it sounds like? Yeah, I said this. 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.800 I will protect this movie with my life. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:14.080 Who do I have to kill? This movie's everything to me, 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:14.480 that's all. 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:16.840 I baled so hard the first time they sound I 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.400 was like, this is so beautiful. What a great message. 0:08:19.440 --> 0:08:22.160 Costumes are outstanding. I love the girls like. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:28.000 And we get like a K drama. It's too many. 0:08:27.720 --> 0:08:29.560 Good things and I really loved it. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.600 I was looked, Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.240 aeroplane sequence, because that is where we really get to 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:39.880 see kind of the girls in action, not just as 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.719 demon hunters, though they are delayed from going to the 0:08:43.760 --> 0:08:46.679 show by demons who take over their airplane and they 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.920 take them over. But one of the things I loved 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:52.160 about this was the way that it understood. And it's 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.880 obviously it's kind of almost like a parasite thing where 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:57.199 I know that they are trying to make a movie 0:08:57.240 --> 0:09:01.920 about a very unique experience, which is being a K 0:09:02.040 --> 0:09:04.800 pop star, something we can't really relate to. But one 0:09:04.800 --> 0:09:06.760 of the biggest tropes about K pop stars is they 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.040 love to eat right because of all the training and stuff, 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:11.600 and then they'll do mook bangs and and but that 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.000 is so universally relatable as a woman who has to 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.080 do stuff is like, yeah, I want to sit with 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.600 my friends in our nice outfits and eat fucking ramen 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:22.800 from a cup like that to me is so wonderful 0:09:22.920 --> 0:09:25.520 and cozy and relatable and also plays into you know 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:28.959 what we see of K pop stars on talent shows 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.600 and daily star shows and stuff. So I loved it 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:34.600 and I love how they use gag animation for the faces, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:38.800 very anime influenced, very Sailor Moon. So we begin with 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:42.240 this incredible fight. They land, they land down, and they're 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:45.680 about to launch. They want to have a rest, which 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:49.840 relatable after the show. I love this scene too, where 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.720 we get to see two of the girls, but Roomy 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.280 just can't wait. She's like, we're gonna release it. We're 0:09:55.320 --> 0:09:57.360 not gonna have a break. We're gonna press play on 0:09:57.400 --> 0:09:59.480 it right now. But she probably should have thought about that. 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.400 Roomy is me and I am Roomy. She was like, 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:03.280 stop working. 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:04.320 She was like I can't wait. 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:09.120 She's like, no, gross, now we have to keep working. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:13.000 And I love that moment because I have been wrapped 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.520 up in my cardigan, in my little like robe, ready 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:18.480 to relax, and then had a friend come and be like, 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:21.480 so we're going out and I'm like, no, don't do. 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:21.920 It to me. 0:10:22.280 --> 0:10:25.400 But this is this is the moment for me story wise, 0:10:25.520 --> 0:10:27.160 I was just loving to be in the world. I 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.600 was loving the music, I loving the visuals. It's very 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:33.200 spider Us kind of style of bringing in new type 0:10:33.240 --> 0:10:35.720 of animation. But it's the moment when we kind of 0:10:35.720 --> 0:10:41.720 get this big reveal that Roomy is in fact losing 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:43.720 her voice. She goes up to the roof, she tries 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.040 to sing. We see the horm moon across the sky, 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.880 and that is when we learn, when she takes off 0:10:48.920 --> 0:10:51.920 the jacket that she has the patterns that show that 0:10:52.000 --> 0:10:54.360 you are a demon or at least part demon, and 0:10:54.360 --> 0:10:59.200 they're kind of these purple tattoos. I just like screamed 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:01.679 at the TV and in that moment it worked for 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.920 me immediately as a massive twist, and I just couldn't 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.320 kind of believe how well it was done, how well 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:11.520 they set it up. It's such an obvious kind of 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:15.320 like from two worlds, can you save both? Set up? 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:18.240 But it works and they do such a great reveal 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:20.600 and then we start to really get into it. We 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:23.720 go to the demon realm, we see guem on his 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:28.320 nobody's demoning enough, everybody's getting failed by the Demon Hunt 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:34.360 as they're smashing them, and then done, we meet the 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:35.320 Saja boys. 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.439 Aaron first reaction to the Saga voice. 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.840 To I mean, I think first reaction to Genu his 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.720 introduction coming out playing a like, you know, I actually 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.120 don't remember what instrument it is, not a guitar but something, 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.880 you know, acoustic instrument singing there that was very powerful 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.319 to me. And then conjuring up these four other characters 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:59.199 voiced by kind of like a great all star cast 0:11:59.280 --> 0:12:02.640 of career and talent too. Joel Kin Booster is in there, 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:06.880 song one show is in there, and like that their 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.520 intro is these hooded or not hooded, but these cloaked 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:13.880 figures with these hats and everything beautiful. And I love 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:17.760 the idea of like creating this demonic boy band. And 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:21.240 I think their introduction is so nice in comparison to 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.199 Huntricks's introduction where we learn all their backstory, and I 0:12:25.240 --> 0:12:29.560 think a really nice way of filmmaking with fans fan 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.439 girling or fanboying out over each. 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.160 Character showing, oh my god. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:38.360 Such a good lyricist and you know Owen and Roomy 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.880 is the diva, Oh my god, you know. So I 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:43.480 love the way they did that to intro each character 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:47.839 and keep it in like really quick succession and give 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.440 us just like more context for them as like K 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.240 pop idols are percent. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:56.880 It also sets up a really great juxtaposition between Ginu, 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.480 who wants to like erase his human memories, who is 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:03.200 clearly like lonely and heartbroken, and this creation of the 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:08.240 Sager Boys, and like the comparison of how Huntrix gets 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.880 to live and how Huntrix is beloved and how Hundrix's 0:13:11.000 --> 0:13:13.240 music is beloved. So the plan of the Saga Boys 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.480 is to essentially weaken the hormon drain all the energy 0:13:16.520 --> 0:13:20.880 from the fans, and then in return, Genu wall have 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.760 his human memories gone, which means he won't be heartbroken anymore. 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:28.079 Very K drama set, they're are very very K drama sets. 0:13:28.160 --> 0:13:31.640 Just the story of like stealing fans from another arrival 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:35.560 K pop group is also a very common K drama trope. 0:13:35.840 --> 0:13:40.960 Yeah, I love how they have managed to manifest so 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.840 many of the brilliant feelings and emotions and tropes that 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.679 we get in K dramas, Like I watch a lot 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:53.560 of K dramas, and to see an animated show that 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:59.640 takes on the aesthetics and the intricacies and the romantic 0:13:59.720 --> 0:14:07.120 relateationships is so pleasing and so enjoyable. So Ginu obviously 0:14:07.160 --> 0:14:10.880 discovers Room is secret, because what else would happen and 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:17.200 then we learn that the demons are actually enslaved by 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.680 kind of the feelings of shame and sorrow. And it's 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:24.440 this I think there's this really interesting concept here of 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:27.560 the power of music and how music can be used. Aaron, 0:14:27.600 --> 0:14:30.480 could you talk a little bit about that aspect of 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:30.960 the film. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:35.600 So this is one of my favorite conversation topics about 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:40.320 film literature, anything that's not music. When as a musician, 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:42.560 I remember growing up I always wanted there to be 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:46.680 cool musician characters in other mediums to follow, and that 0:14:46.800 --> 0:14:49.400 never really happens. I think like Name of the Wind 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.480 is like the first time really that I felt like, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:55.880 oh wow, this musician is cool. And here I love 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:58.160 the way they did it. And I think that using 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:02.800 music both as like something to strengthen and bring people together, 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.400 but also this sort of mystical ancestral thing that's passed 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:08.600 down through generations, whether or not the music is the 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:12.160 same genre. They're showing these I mean very almost sinners 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:15.080 coded and like, here's how the music has transcended each 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:19.080 generation to do the same thing of bringing people together 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:19.880 and protecting them. 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:20.760 I love that. 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.840 And this is like maybe the third time in my 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.080 life when I've watched or read something and been like, 0:15:26.200 --> 0:15:29.480 they made musicians seem cool. I'm very happy with that. 0:15:29.640 --> 0:15:31.960 I like the idea of someone that can sing and 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:34.360 then conjure a glave out of thin air or a 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:37.680 sword and fight demons with it, and like also be 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:38.480 wrong at the site. 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.200 Okay, Aaron, you have to watch. There was this really 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:45.440 incredible animated movie that I was lucky enough. No, but 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:48.760 I love Kubo. There's a movie that I was lucky 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:50.920 enough to go and see with a friend who invited 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:53.880 me at the Arrow a few years ago. Now, wow, 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.840 it came out in twenty twenty one. It's called Inuo, 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:00.960 and it is set in like fourteenth century Pan but 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:06.400 it is about two guys who basically create like a 0:16:06.440 --> 0:16:10.440 glam rock musical show in the fourteenth century of Japan. 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:14.560 It's honestly like a truly astounding movie. I immediately bought it. 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.680 It's directed by a Misaki Yuasa, who has made a 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:21.360 bunch of really famous stuff. I believe Ping Pong is 0:16:21.400 --> 0:16:24.800 his most famous creation. He also actually did an episode 0:16:24.840 --> 0:16:28.040 of Adventure Time because he's really cool. But Inuo is 0:16:28.120 --> 0:16:30.160 one of the It was the first movie I thought 0:16:30.200 --> 0:16:32.720 of when I watched this where I was like, oh, 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.320 this is a whole different way of showing how music 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:39.680 can influence people, how music can be brought to life 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.560 on screen, because I do as well love the visualization 0:16:42.880 --> 0:16:45.640 of music. Here, Aaron, how did you feel as a musician, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:48.960 do you ever have those kind of moments where you 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.120 can see your music as you play it? Or do 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.240 you feel like in this movement they managed to bring 0:16:53.320 --> 0:16:55.360 something new to that because we don't get to see 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:55.840 that a lot. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:01.040 Yeah, that's a that's a really big question. I think God, 0:17:01.040 --> 0:17:04.120 I would love selfishly if at some point I felt 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.840 like my music was having that sort of impact of 0:17:06.880 --> 0:17:10.560 strengthening the hun moon and you know, binding things together. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:15.120 But I think what this does really well is it 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:19.240 feels so natural in how it's delivered within Because they're singers, 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:21.159 then that's like a huge part of it. But like, 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:24.879 if you're watching it as much as I love the 0:17:24.960 --> 0:17:28.040 Disney Robin Hood, there's no real reason these characters should 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:31.960 be singing. There's no real reason Disney symbol needs to sing. 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.200 He just can't wait to be king. I get the emotion, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.760 but like, where is it coming from? Here? It makes 0:17:36.840 --> 0:17:41.399 total sense, and that's a such a victory for everyone 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.600 on the music side of things, that these songs seamlessly 0:17:44.600 --> 0:17:49.080 fit into this whole thing, whether it be Genu and 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:52.600 Roomy singing together this like forlorn love song, whether it 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.840 be them writing and performing Takedown, whether it's them you know, 0:17:56.960 --> 0:18:01.480 on the plane like kicking there the demon's ass while 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:03.719 they're getting ready to drop into the show. I mean, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.800 there's so many just points where this movie does it perfectly. 0:18:07.880 --> 0:18:11.960 I think Soda Pop, I mean the introduction of that song, 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.960 literally seeing it catch up like these are fans as 0:18:15.040 --> 0:18:19.040 extras in this movie is really well done because you see, like, Okay, 0:18:19.040 --> 0:18:23.120 you're so much Yes, you're the old walking grannies, You're 0:18:23.640 --> 0:18:26.879 the group of male friends who really dig K pop. 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.760 Here are your teeney boppers. 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.200 Who stands sort of like more the rapper, more folks 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.639 on the dancer, and like, you know, I love the 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.000 two crying guys. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:37.680 Here's here's the kid who always rips the shirt off 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:39.680 to have the other band's shirt underneath. 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:44.320 Yeah, yeah, so conflicted. And I think like the introduction 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:48.160 of Sodapop botha is a like overly sweet, like hiding 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.879 the sort of like evilness. But then also this catchy 0:18:51.960 --> 0:18:55.480 jam that everybody, even our girls like, can't stop shimmying 0:18:55.480 --> 0:18:58.360 their shoulders too. Like it's just such a wonderful musical 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.120 introduction and it really shows like the threat to them 0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:05.600 musically so quick when people boards start popping up right after. 0:19:05.800 --> 0:19:08.480 Like this visual storytelling is like on another level here. 0:19:08.640 --> 0:19:10.720 I also think that's a great point too, is this 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.600 isn't a movie that has one great band. This is 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:17.440 a movie that had to make two great bands. And 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:23.080 as kind of the Saga Boys grow in popularity. Obviously 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:28.280 they're beautiful, they're great dancers, they're great singers, they got abs, 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.320 they got cool costumes, and Hunterricks try to make this 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.399 new song take down, which I this is where I 0:19:35.400 --> 0:19:40.880 thought the movie really showcases its emotional intelligence because they 0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:44.479 essentially have this story and this song that's about like 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.200 it's an anti demon kind of song. It's We're gonna 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:51.040 take you out. And Rumy becomes conflicted and starts to 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:53.720 feel like shame and worry, and that's when she comes 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:57.080 up with this plan to work with Gino and together 0:19:57.200 --> 0:20:00.440 maybe they can save the hon Moon, help them win 0:20:00.520 --> 0:20:03.520 the award, and then he can stay on this side, 0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:05.560 say he can stay here too, and. 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.520 Isn't that a boyfriend? 0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:13.240 Isn't that what four year old hot boyfriend? Boyfriend? 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.840 The literature tells us. This is what the ladies are. 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:22.320 Hundred year old hot boyfriend who has been up with demons. 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.840 He's been fighting. Maybe he's killed a few people, but 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.560 you know what, he would never do. He would never 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:29.800 hurt us. That's the class Tigerie. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.920 Yes, or reveal your secret? Can we talk? 0:20:32.960 --> 0:20:34.440 Okay, wait, we'll we come back. We're going to talk 0:20:34.480 --> 0:20:37.960 about the scene where he hides her demon mark because wow, 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:38.560 thank you. 0:20:52.880 --> 0:20:54.520 Okay, we're back. 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:57.560 We're back, Joel, talk about it. Gush, gush, gush. 0:20:57.720 --> 0:20:58.000 Okay. 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.600 So my mom is really into CA dramas. She discovered 0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:03.000 them on wearing Netflix. Thank you for introducing us to 0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:08.400 global television as in your Americans. It's been really beautiful. Yeah, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:11.000 she loves them. She gobbles them up. She came over, 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:13.359 created an entire channel on my Netflix so she could 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.280 watch her K dramas. And so I've learned a lot 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:20.080 about the K drama tropes and uh, I'll keep your 0:21:20.119 --> 0:21:22.280 secret for you. Trope is easily one of my favorites. 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.240 It's so like, I mean, so easy to swoop into 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:27.240 romance that way, A lot of K dramas have a 0:21:27.280 --> 0:21:30.879 lot of similarities with like Victorian romance literature, which is 0:21:30.920 --> 0:21:32.960 a lot of we cannot touch and no one can. 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:33.680 Know we like each other. 0:21:33.720 --> 0:21:36.800 So they'll be yearning so much yearning longings here and 0:21:36.840 --> 0:21:39.600 they effing nail it, like she can't tell her friends 0:21:39.680 --> 0:21:42.119 that she's a demon or that she's like having this 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:45.600 crushed like flirty time with a demon. He knows all 0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.960 of the secrets and possibly more because he's already on 0:21:48.000 --> 0:21:50.200 the other side of the demon culture, so he alos 0:21:50.240 --> 0:21:50.840 doing on there. 0:21:50.960 --> 0:21:53.919 He is keeping his own secret, which I love because 0:21:54.280 --> 0:21:57.800 he has his own shame. I also think, and this 0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:00.320 is something I would love. Maybe who knows the movie 0:22:00.400 --> 0:22:02.920 keeps popping off. If it really becomes a FYC movie, 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:06.200