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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at Advocateslaw dot com.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone today for our first day

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by Lilah. So in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes we'll call her see if she'll tell

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.

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Speaker 2: But first, Zach, how long has it been since you

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Speaker 2: heard from Lilah?

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Speaker 3: Like maybe two weeks? It's been a minute.

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Speaker 2: Were you trying to hit her up in that time?

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Speaker 3: So? I did message her like a few times, and

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Speaker 3: they may or may not have sent the memes, but

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Speaker 3: like good ones, like you know, like like funny, like

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Speaker 3: jokey ones, not like desperate memes.

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Speaker 2: Okay, not like memes of somebody crying with the phone.

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Speaker 3: I mean like some somewhere in between those two maybe.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how that is going to play out.

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Speaker 1: But let's let's go backwards. Why don't you tell us

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Speaker 1: about the date, Zach?

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Speaker 2: How was it?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I thought the date was fine. I thought

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Speaker 3: everything went well. Basically, it's actually kind of cool. I

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Speaker 3: thought spice it up. First dates usually boring, let's do

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Speaker 3: an escape room. So it was fun, but like it

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Speaker 3: was low key stressful, you know, like but like teamwork.

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Speaker 3: First date, you know, go big or go home, right,

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Speaker 3: I take big swings, got some drinks. Afterwards things were

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Speaker 3: obviously more relaxed and less like pressure filled again good sign.

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Speaker 3: We stayed until the bar closed, like we were just

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Speaker 3: talking and like, I don't know, she's so like so

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Speaker 3: she's super smart, like annoyingly smart, like in a good way,

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Speaker 3: Like she's funny. I don't know, like even though I

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Speaker 3: was nervous, I was laughing, but it was like not

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Speaker 3: just nervous laughing, you know what I'm saying. So it

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Speaker 3: ended there was a kiss, not like you know, rom

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Speaker 3: com like in the rain, like whatever moment, a solid kiss,

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Speaker 3: more than a peck, less than a makeout, you know.

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Speaker 3: So like I thought that was good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, who kissed too? Or was it mutual?

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Speaker 3: I made the first move, you know, but she leaned

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Speaker 3: in ninety and ten right, like what's.

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Speaker 2: It didn't seem like she was just kissing you because

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Speaker 2: she had to Like yeah I've been.

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Speaker 3: There, No, because that's like tech, that's like a peck, right,

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Speaker 3: and then like it's quick, this is.

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Speaker 2: More than a pack okay, all right? And how did

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Speaker 2: you end things with her?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 2: What did you did she say she wanted to see

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Speaker 2: you again? Anything like that?

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Speaker 3: I mean I didn't specifically say like what are you

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Speaker 3: doing next week? I just was like I agree, yeah,

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Speaker 3: like you know, like I'll call you or whatever, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'll text you. And she's like okay, cool and then

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Speaker 3: that that was That was it.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything that happened on the date that could

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Speaker 1: have thrown it off? Like what went wrong you think?

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Speaker 3: I mean sometimes I can get like competitive when I mean,

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Speaker 3: you know, like playing games and stuff. So in escape room,

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Speaker 3: like maybe I was getting to like passionates I guess like, hey,

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Speaker 2: Did you freak out at all, like like a huge

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Speaker 3: No, we escaped, which was nice. It wasn't one of

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Speaker 3: those like horror ones where like zombies, you if you

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Speaker 3: don't get it. It was just like they escape, you know,

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Speaker 3: escape the room. It gets hechtic and a little stressful,

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Speaker 3: but like in a good way. Ok So, I felt

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Speaker 3: you know, but she was kind of doing the same

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Speaker 3: thing to me. So I don't know, so.

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Speaker 1: Like be honest with yourself. Was it more like giving

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Speaker 1: do it?

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Speaker 2: No, and then I'll do this.

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Speaker 3: I want to say it was playful, but it might

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Speaker 3: have been ordered. I don't know. That's the thing is,

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Speaker 3: sometimes you can't see yourself. If I was like standing

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Speaker 3: can't get like that. I just don't know if that's

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Speaker 2: Came from, or maybe she read it wrong. You know,

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Speaker 2: maybe you threw a look and you weren't like annoyed

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Speaker 2: oh wow, you know what I mean, Yeah, that happens.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: In there. That would probably not get you another date.

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Speaker 3: I don't think I did that. Pretty sure I didn't

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Speaker 3: do that. Cool.

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Speaker 2: Zach is on the phone and he's getting ghosted by Lilah.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call her and see if she'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him

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Speaker 2: another date. But first, Zach, why don't you catch us

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Speaker 2: up on your situation?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, she is super gorgeous, super smart. I

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Speaker 3: felt like, Okay, let's you know, like, let's go big

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Speaker 3: and we went to an escape room first date. I

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Speaker 3: it went pretty well. We did kiss, we escaped the room,

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Speaker 3: he went to drinks afterwards, kiss at the end of

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Speaker 3: the day, ghosting. Since then, I feel like, maybe maybe

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Speaker 3: if I had to guess, like, I know, I can

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Speaker 3: get competitive, so maybe I was a little competit I

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Speaker 3: live in the escape room. Maybe, you know, she felt

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Speaker 3: like I was too pushy. I'm not sure that could

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Speaker 2: Okay, are you ready for us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go. Hello, Hi, I speak to Lililah. Please.

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Speaker 3: This is Slilah.

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Speaker 2: Hi Leila, how are you. My name is Jewbel. I'm

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Speaker 2: calling from a radio show. It's called The Jebel Show. Hililah.

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Speaker 2: I'm Nina also on the show. Hi, and I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Hi, So this is wait. So this is one

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Speaker 4: of those radio shows.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's one of those. Have you ever

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Speaker 2: listened to The Jebel Show before?

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Speaker 4: I'm sure here and there, I guess I'm not. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I usually just kind of listen to whatever's

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Speaker 4: on my phone, I guess.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well hopefully it's us sometimes if that'd be cool

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Speaker 2: if you will check it out. But anyway, we do

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Speaker 2: a segment on our show and it's called the first

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Speaker 2: Date follow Up. What that is is if you go

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Speaker 2: on a day with somebody and you end up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: they can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and ask why you're ghosting them. So we actually got

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Speaker 2: an email about you from someone who does have us

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Speaker 2: on their phone.

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh my god. So so people actually do this? Yes,

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Speaker 4: but I didn't think this was real.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they do actually do this, and you're one

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Speaker 2: of those people right now. How's it feel?

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Speaker 4: Yay?

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Speaker 2: Congrats?

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Speaker 4: Oh I don't know. And wait, what is this about?

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry? What is this about?

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Speaker 3: Again?

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Speaker 2: Well, you went on a date with a guy named

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Speaker 2: Zach recently.

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Speaker 4: M okay, yeah, and.

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Speaker 2: Zach said he really liked you, but he hasn't heard

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Speaker 2: and he's wondering if you wouldn't mind telling us why

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Speaker 2: you're ghosting him.

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Speaker 4: Oh I mean yeah, I'm ghosting him because he's a liar.

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Speaker 2: Oh oh, a liar? What is he lying about you

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Speaker 4: I thought the date was fun and cute, but after

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Speaker 3: He says, Okay, hold up, what can't you What can't

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Speaker 3: you trust? What I said? I that was a lie.

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Speaker 2: That's Zach. He's actually on the phone listening and wants

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Speaker 5: And oh my god, hi liar, because we went to

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Speaker 5: with a lie. That that quick is just disturbing to me,

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Speaker 2: Do you think the fact that he came up with

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Speaker 2: like you'll do that all the time, Is that what

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't put it past him, and that fast,

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Speaker 2: Fast as a good liar myself, he probably has a

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Speaker 4: And for something so small as to like get free

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Speaker 3: Wait a minute, hold up, I got the clues right.

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Speaker 3: We needed to get out of the escape room, right

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Speaker 3: like I'm competitive, that's not I wasn't lying. I didn't

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Speaker 4: Okay, but that's what a liar would say.

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Speaker 3: Well, we got out of the escape room, didn't we? Like,

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Speaker 3: but at what costs? You mean? Here we are?

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Speaker 3: What I don't What do you consider a lie? Like,

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Speaker 4: What is that supposed to mean?

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Speaker 3: Because on your dating profile you have blonde hair? So

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's not even close to the same thing. But

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Speaker 3: Whatever liar hold each other names all day doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: Lilo, would you like to go on another date? Was

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. I just don't really think I

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Speaker 3: But was that a lie? So you really mean you

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Speaker 3: do you want to go on a day? Truth?

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Speaker 4: Look, I'm sorry you're clearly triggered, but like you did lie.

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Speaker 4: You lied, and you know what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 3: I want to know what you're referring to. Was what

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Speaker 3: I think you're talking about? That is not lying just

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Speaker 4: Keeping the truth from someone has a lie. That is

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Speaker 4: how a lie is defined.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just supposed to say everything that I know

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Speaker 3: in the entire world, every person that I know, to

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Speaker 3: make sure that I'm not lying by not saying everything

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Speaker 3: in the world just because I happen to know a

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Speaker 3: lot about up that last name, Like I could be

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Speaker 2: Well, Zach, I'm sorry know no second day that guy

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Speaker 3: Could be the truth, like through like ancestors dot com

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Speaker 3: and whatnot, like that could be the truth. You don't know.

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Speaker 3: I'm thinking you don't know either, So like a why

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Speaker 4: Okay? Wait, then she said, like it was supposed to be.

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Speaker 3: No liar, your lying round here?

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