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Speaker 3: now as the company. Well, it's not mikey A, while

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Speaker 3: Jason Stewart Iowa, Sam and Isaac Glowingcron hanging out as

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Speaker 3: Bomani Jones conversation comes up in twenty You're not gonna

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Speaker 3: want to miss it. For the meantime, though, we're gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you why Bruce Pearl is ridiculous and why Miami

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Speaker 3: of Ohio should be in the NC DOUBLEA Tournament. It's

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Speaker 3: been a conversation that's carried over from this past weekend

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Speaker 3: when Bruce Pearl spoke as a television analyst on the

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Speaker 3: case for Miami of Ohio to not be in the

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Speaker 3: NC DOUBLEA Tournament despite the RedHawks having an unblemished mark

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Speaker 3: so far in college basketball. These were the comments that

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Speaker 3: set fire in the college basketball world over the past weekend.

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Speaker 5: Miami or howe, here's the deal.

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Speaker 6: Are we gonna select the sixty eight most deserving teams

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Speaker 6: or are we gonna select the sixty eight best teams? If

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Speaker 6: we're selecting the sixty eight best teams, then Mina Moohowe

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Speaker 6: is gonna have to win their tournament to qualify as

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Speaker 6: a champion, because as in at large, they are not

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Speaker 6: one of the best teams in the country, and that's

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Speaker 6: gonna be a difficult choice for the committee to make.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you've got to play your way in. Are

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Speaker 6: you gonna lose your way out. It's just that simple

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Speaker 6: with all these teams. For the mid majors and low majors,

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Speaker 6: it's all about the tournament because they recognize the own

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Speaker 6: there's only going to be a one bid league for

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Speaker 6: the rest of the league's it's all about the grind

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Speaker 6: correct of a regular season championship, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: Okay, so there's a lot there, and I want to

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Speaker 3: preface this before responding to what Bruce Pearl was saying.

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Speaker 3: I love it when guys are honest when they're not

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Speaker 3: giving coach speak as being an analyst. But I give

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Speaker 3: kudos to everyone who follows college basketball that saw right

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Speaker 3: through the point that Bruce Pearl was making. And if

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Speaker 3: thousands that saw through the point that Bruce Pearl was making.

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Speaker 3: He's also the former coach at Auburn, where we know

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Speaker 3: a guess. Iowa, Sam Joe Lunardi. He's the one that

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Speaker 3: There are a lot of different other bracket predictors in

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Speaker 3: I read all of them, just like I read mock drafts.

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Speaker 3: But take one guess at what team is the first

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Speaker 3: And it is not the Miami of Ohio RedHawks. The

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Speaker 7: My guess is Auburn.

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Speaker 8: That is correct, Auburn first one, first four out. Not

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Speaker 8: They would be the team that is on the outside

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Speaker 8: And never in the history of the NCUBA Tournament as

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Speaker 8: They do not have the opportunity within their conference to

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Speaker 8: of Ohio would become the story. And there's this conversation

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna tell you it's probably the last time. The

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Speaker 8: discussion is going to happen after the NCAA Tournament where

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Speaker 8: the field will be expanded to seventy two or seventy

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Speaker 8: think it affects what matters most, And what matters most

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Speaker 8: to us is the brackets. The brackets that we get

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Speaker 8: to seventy two and seventy six are not Miami of Ohio.

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Speaker 8: There was one voice that says we don't need expansion

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Speaker 8: It is the one of coach Mike Krzyzewski, who was

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Speaker 9: There are less teams capable right now than ever before,

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Speaker 9: and there are many have nots, and it's not their fault.

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Speaker 9: And I don't think you mess with something that has gold.

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Speaker 9: It's gold. I think the thing you should mess with

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Speaker 9: just one person, but actually they should run it like

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Speaker 3: His first comment is the one that's most striking to me,

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Speaker 3: Sam and Isaac longcron his point of the sixty ninth team,

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Speaker 3: the thirty fifth fortieth team in college Basketball's not worthy

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Speaker 4: So why expand it?

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Speaker 3: And I completely agree with coach k But the expansion

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Speaker 3: the Mountain West Conference. It allows those coaches to say,

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Speaker 3: we made it to the NCAA Tournament in an expanded format.

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Speaker 3: If you want to go to the next four, that's

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Speaker 3: fine to expand it to seventy six. But the expansion

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Speaker 3: Miami of Ohio, and that's why it's that much more

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Speaker 3: you're a who's your fan? If Indiana got in last year.

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Speaker 3: Nobody cared if West Virginia got in unless you were

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Speaker 4: So Bruce Pearl.

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Speaker 3: Had his platform. I love what he says because he

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Speaker 3: if I asked Sam, if asked Jason, would you rather

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Speaker 10: From Miami, Ohio, Rod Harper. I would like to add

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Speaker 10: just one thing. I would have liked mister Pearl to

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Speaker 10: But then you know, you break down their schedule. I mean,

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Speaker 10: they really haven't played any impressive non conference they've.

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Speaker 3: Played, They've played no one. They really have played no one.

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Speaker 3: But there is something to be said about running the

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Speaker 3: table in your conference. Akrons fifteen to one, they're knocking

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Speaker 11: He said about the bracket being pristine, how it's been

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Speaker 7: I think that the way the NCAA tournament and the

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Speaker 4: So Jason said margin accounting. At first, like, I thought.

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Speaker 10: Feel free to disagree with me on this even though

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Speaker 3: Stu Gotson Company Live here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: Jake, we'll get to his last damage just a second

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Speaker 1: from John Boy Media is joining us. Thanks to Bamadi

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Speaker 1: the host of Talking Baseball with Trevor ploof Am I

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Speaker 1: saying that last name correctly nailed it nail all right,

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Speaker 12: So so story Lee, I think is where we traditionally

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Speaker 13: Man, it's one of those things. Just as a little kid.

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Speaker 12: You heard all of it, and I don't really care,

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Speaker 13: So I don't know story Ellie.

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Speaker 4: I heard all of it.

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Speaker 13: Call me Jake Wiener. I don't know. I'm good with

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Speaker 1: Before we get to I know, we want to discuss

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Speaker 13: Because I love the beauty of sports.

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Speaker 12: I love you know that the bottom part of baseball

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Speaker 12: Come on, man, it's no you know, I know we're

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Speaker 14: So nice Jet, well done.

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Speaker 12: teams do we talk about them having that one contract

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Speaker 12: that kills them.

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Speaker 13: The Dodgers don't really have that.

441
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Speaker 12: Like, yes, they get a little bit more flexibility around

442
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 12: their pitching. Where they had a ton of injuries and

443
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 12: they could take a chance on Glass, now they can

444
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 12: take a chance on Snell even though they have an

445
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 12: injury history, where other teams don't have to do that.

446
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,720
Speaker 12: But Matt Freddie Freeman was a free agent and didn't

447
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 12: want to go there, remember the hole.

448
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Speaker 13: He wanted to stay in Atlanta.

449
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Speaker 12: Like they have where they have spent their money, they've

450
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Speaker 12: done really good at it, so they they deserve credit

451
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Speaker 12: on all fronts. And yes, it's you know, there's a

452
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Speaker 12: lot of teams that wish they could spend half of

453
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Speaker 12: what the Dodgers do, So I I do get that

454
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Speaker 12: part of it. But the Dodgers, no one should be

455
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Speaker 12: knocking what they've done like they've They've crushed it.

456
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Speaker 16: Jay Dodgers' clear best team in baseball. They add Kyle

457
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,160
Speaker 16: Tucker Edwin Diaz to kind of address the only weaknesses

458
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Speaker 16: they had. It feels like this year going into the season,

459
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Speaker 16: the gap between like teams two through twelve is razor thin,

460
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Speaker 16: and it just kind of comes down to what you prefer.

461
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Speaker 16: Who do you think is the second best team in

462
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Speaker 16: baseball as we enter season?

463
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Speaker 12: Man, we just did power rankings because, as I'm sure

464
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Speaker 12: Stu knows, like that click has worked throughout time, and

465
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 12: it is such a losing exercise, especially right now with

466
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Speaker 12: where baseball is at that I honestly and this wasn't

467
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Speaker 12: for the click, This wasn't for the view. When I

468
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Speaker 12: was looking at all the teams, the team I feel

469
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Speaker 12: the second most confident about is the Milwaukee Brewers because

470
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Speaker 12: I know on the pitching side of the ball, they

471
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Speaker 12: are advanced above most other teams and they actually have

472
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Speaker 12: talented like ms Rowski's a freak show Brandon Woodriff when

473
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Speaker 12: you actually go through his numbers, who he has been

474
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Speaker 12: since the twenty twenties, Like he's the leader, that they

475
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Speaker 12: have a great bullpen every year, they catch the ball

476
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Speaker 12: every year and between contrarasts between Chario, between Yelich and

477
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Speaker 12: then everyone else on their team who runs well, catches

478
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Speaker 12: the ball well, and does something else well. Like I

479
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 12: know that they're going to put a good product out

480
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Speaker 12: there that I put them second on my power rankings,

481
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Speaker 12: and I power rank where it gets tricky as if

482
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Speaker 12: you just look at talent on paper, I don't know

483
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Speaker 12: if I pick them, but when I look at the

484
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Speaker 12: uniform and who they have, I do.

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Speaker 15: Who's a team that you're kind of lower on that

486
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Speaker 15: a lot of people are are really high on.

487
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Speaker 13: Ooh, this is makes the fun part. Yeah, right, let's see.

488
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Speaker 12: The team that got the most mad at me was

489
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Speaker 12: the New York Metropolitans. I had them at eleventh.

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Speaker 1: Right when you say they got mad at you, Jake,

491
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry to cut you off.

492
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Speaker 14: Like what happened there?

493
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Speaker 1: You put out the power rankings and someone from the

494
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Speaker 1: Mets reach out to you.

495
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Speaker 14: What happened?

496
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Speaker 12: So you well know, like we're it's a losing game

497
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Speaker 12: and where our social media team couldn't get more excited

498
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Speaker 12: when we do power rankings because.

499
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Speaker 1: We're right, because they know they know they're mindless and

500
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Speaker 1: fake and they mean nothing.

501
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Speaker 13: Right preseason Baseball power rankings.

502
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Speaker 12: Really, you're really in it that the Mets fans like

503
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Speaker 12: they arguably had a top three off season, but they're

504
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Speaker 12: also okay if I'm respecting the Brewers Jersey, I still

505
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Speaker 12: see a little something with the Mets jersey, and they

506
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,760
Speaker 12: had an epic collapse last year while also losing their

507
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Speaker 12: franchise leader in home runs like the Lindor injury. Now

508
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 12: going into the season, they have a lot of positions

509
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Speaker 12: that are open in different ways that like, I shouldn't

510
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Speaker 12: be in love with the Mets. I see there's a

511
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Speaker 12: lot of talent there, but that was probably the one

512
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Speaker 12: that people were were the most hot about.

513
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Speaker 13: But that could also just be Mets Yankee stuff.

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Speaker 1: Taylor and Mike have been annoying me because they're upset

515
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Speaker 1: about the vibes around this Yankee team because they are

516
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Speaker 1: running back basically the same exact team as they had

517
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Speaker 1: last year. How do you feel about the vibes of

518
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Speaker 1: the Yankees and can you tell Taylor and Mikey to

519
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Speaker 1: shut them up. Yeah no, I mean, I love you guys,

520
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Speaker 1: but vibes the Yankees running back the same team.

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Speaker 14: I mean, the team is good.

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Speaker 12: The team is good. And that's where it's two different

523
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Speaker 12: things here. It's the Yankee fans we're told to be

524
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Speaker 12: and it's the Yankee fans we are now. Now we're

525
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Speaker 12: talking about the Dodgers on a different pantheon, which okay,

526
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 12: that should be strike one right there. And then if

527
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Speaker 12: you go through teams two through twelve kind of like

528
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Speaker 12: Taylor mentioned, like they're the same right now and that's

529
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Speaker 12: not what the Yankees are supposed to be. So in

530
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Speaker 12: that way, it's right. In another way, they do have

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Speaker 12: some pitching depth and some you know, they had technically

532
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Speaker 12: the best lineup last year, which there's some judge funny

533
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Speaker 12: business math in there, but they also have that guy.

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Speaker 13: So let's take the funny business math.

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Speaker 12: And I just think maybe Baseball's I don't want to

536
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Speaker 12: say baseball's problem right now, because there's a couple of them,

537
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 12: but it's two seasons. It's survived the first half of

538
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Speaker 12: the season and see how good your team is, and

539
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 12: then the trade deadline fill your holes. The Yankees brought

540
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Speaker 12: in a whole different back end of the bullpen last year,

541
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Speaker 12: Like you can add at the deadline now if you're

542
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Speaker 12: willing to give up actual prospect capital, and the Yankees

543
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 12: actually do have some real prospect capital this year or

544
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Speaker 12: not the Yankees heype machine prospect capital.

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Speaker 1: Which team in Major League Baseball top to bottom has

546
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Speaker 1: the best pitching staff?

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Speaker 14: Is that obvious? Is it the Dodgers?

548
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Speaker 12: Or yeah, the Dodgers aren't an interesting scale. I guess

549
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 12: if it's not that.

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Speaker 1: You talk about baseball and exclude the Dodgers from the conversation.

551
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Speaker 12: That's kind of what it is, and that's that's insane.

552
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 12: But I would say the two teams that jump out

553
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 12: are Seattle and the Phillies. The Phillies off Zach Wheeler

554
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 12: comes back, and is that Zach Wheeler. Their bullpen on

555
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,760
Speaker 12: the back end is actually stronger than it's looked like

556
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 12: in past years with doron and they Brad Keller, who's

557
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 12: kind of one of those new starters who's transitioning to

558
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 12: the bullpen very well. And Seattle like they're somehow we've

559
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 12: become bored with their starting pitching group, but they're there,

560
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 12: and you know, they kind of made their first leap

561
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Speaker 12: next year. This is kind of the real test of like,

562
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 12: all right, who are they gonna be?

563
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Seattle's just boring, right, Like we don't care about Seattle.

564
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Speaker 1: It's so far removed from all the other states, Like

565
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Speaker 1: it's just a there in the Northwest. It's by Canada,

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Speaker 1: it's close to Vancouver. I mean, the Seahawks won a

567
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and everyone yawned.

568
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Speaker 12: You know, it's an interesting because you know they got

569
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 12: that Pat the twelfth Man, right, No, man, it's bizarre.

570
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 12: I had a weird I'm on my couch last night

571
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Speaker 12: and I see the video of Julio Rodriguez coming off

572
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Speaker 12: the coming off the team bus for Team dr and

573
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Speaker 12: I'm like, okay, so we've got one of the most

574
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 12: handsome fellas on the planet place maybe my favorite position

575
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 12: defensively as well as anyone. And it's like, and okay,

576
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 12: they're catchers, big dumper, Like what what simulation is this that? Yes,

577
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 12: there should be something a little sexier about Seattle.

578
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Speaker 14: Right, except you feel like you need a passport when

579
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Speaker 14: you travel there.

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Speaker 13: I mean it's a different place, Yes, I.

581
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Speaker 14: Can tell it. Put that on the poll. Do you

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Speaker 14: need a passport when you travel to Seattle, got Jake.

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Speaker 16: It feels like me and mikey a align on most

584
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Speaker 16: things when it comes to Yankees. One of the things

585
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Speaker 16: recently that we kind of had a disagreement on. I

586
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 16: don't think CC Sabathia is Jersey retirement great when it

587
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 16: comes to Yankees, and I'm curious where you kind of

588
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 16: fall there.

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00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 12: It's the CC listening No, I man, I don't know

590
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 12: I what C. C. Sabathia represented for the Yankees coming

591
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 12: over from OH nine winning that World Series, who he

592
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 12: was as a leader, and I guess where he is

593
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Speaker 12: in baseball history. The thing that we've referenced on talking Yanks,

594
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 12: because you know, CEC. When you look at the career

595
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 12: stats and all pitchers are in this place right now,

596
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Speaker 12: that the Hall of Fame is gonna have to kind

597
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 12: of change how they look at starting pitchers. CC is

598
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 12: the third lefty ever to strike out three thousand hitters,

599
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Speaker 12: And when you think about that, you're like, Okay, I

600
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 12: think Carlton and Randy Johnson. So like, I don't know

601
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 12: who who C. C. Sabathia is in the game. I

602
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 12: get that there's a Yankee side to that argument that

603
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 12: you know, if you started ranking each Yankee by uniform number,

604
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 12: CEC's probably towards the bottom third there.

605
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Speaker 13: There's a couple others behind CEC.

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Speaker 12: That it is what it is like, I don't know,

607
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 12: I'm I'm not out here to knock who Reggie Jackson

608
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 12: was because I didn't feel like who he was.

609
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Speaker 13: In that moment.

610
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Speaker 12: He's larger than life, he represents New York. Well, he's

611
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 12: still around the team. That it's I don't know, I'm

612
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 12: not punching pillows at home like you believe this, like

613
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Speaker 12: and it's a fine number to retire like that.

614
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 14: When do you punch pillows at home? What makes you

615
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 14: like talking?

616
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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: Uh god, that's uh nope, I'm not going there, not going.

618
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Speaker 14: But how many of those strikeouts came as a Yankee?

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Speaker 4: You know?

620
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Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, you hang around the team, doesn't mean

621
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Speaker 1: you get your jersey retired.

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Speaker 14: I mean it's the Yankees, man, I.

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Speaker 13: Know, I know, And maybe maybe I'm part of the

624
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 13: problem now that I this is you're a Yankees.

625
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 12: Have let each little half inch slip that we've gotten

626
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Speaker 12: to this point. I don't know of all my qualms

627
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 12: with the Yankees organization. Uh in doctoring CC more into

628
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 12: the family.

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Speaker 13: I'm I have no qualms with that, Stu.

630
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Speaker 16: As a Yankee fan, it feels sacrilegious. When I'm walking around,

631
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Speaker 16: I'm like, hey, maybe we didn't need to retire Paul

632
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 16: Neil's number.

633
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, it's actly religious.

634
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 14: I think he might be more deserving. But if I'm sitting.

635
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: There and I'm rattling off Yankee greats in terms of pictures,

636
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna take me a while before I get to C. C.

637
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Speaker 14: Sabbathia, you know.

638
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Speaker 13: Ah, So that's where I get caught up.

639
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 12: And now, if we're really doing this like the Yankees,

640
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 12: pitching lifetime is a lot slimmer than the hitting that.

641
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Speaker 13: I think CC might crack that rotation. Are you a

642
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Speaker 13: Whitey Ford guy?

643
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Speaker 1: I am a white I just it's so funny. I

644
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: just wrote down Whitey Ford on a piece of I

645
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Speaker 1: didn't finish it.

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Speaker 4: I wrote fo R.

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Speaker 14: But that just reminds me that it's Ford.

648
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Speaker 12: I've got other illusions for it. No, man, this is

649
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 12: where I don't have the historian side yet. I think

650
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 12: that's gonna be like my upcoming midlife crisis where I

651
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 12: deep dive into all of the Yankee stats and I can.

652
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 13: But like, I don't know.

653
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Speaker 12: I heard I heard Kellerman and Simmons the other day

654
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Speaker 12: debating if Guidry's number should be retired, and.

655
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Speaker 13: I don't know. I see him show up. He's got

656
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Speaker 13: a sick nick name.

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Speaker 14: Some of the numbers are Louisiana Lightning.

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Speaker 13: I mean, comparing Guidry and Sabathia. I can't. I can't

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Speaker 13: have that conversation currently.

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Speaker 14: Here's the way I like to do these things, Jake.

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Speaker 1: If I were to ask you, Okay, one game scenario,

662
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Speaker 1: start for your life, Okay, Cec Sabbathi or David Cone?

663
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Speaker 14: Who you taking? Oh you're taking code? I don't.

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Speaker 13: I mean what age am I getting them at?

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Speaker 14: Like prime? You're getting prime of both? Okay?

666
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Speaker 13: Did the Yankees have prime? Cone?

667
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Speaker 1: Because the follow ups here, I mean just one picture.

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Speaker 1: Choose what Jesus, what was your question? What was the

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Speaker 1: second question?

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Speaker 13: Did their prime on the Yankees?

671
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Speaker 1: Or their CEC's prime on the Yankees?

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Speaker 14: David Cone's prime on the Yankees?

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Speaker 12: I think I would go see Cee just that when

674
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 12: he initially came over, he comes off that like Milwaukee run.

675
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Speaker 12: Where do you remember he took the ball every third

676
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Speaker 12: day for the Brewers just to do it like that's

677
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Speaker 12: He's one of the last dying breeds to ever do that.

678
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Speaker 12: And I feel like Coney when he came to the Yankees.

679
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Speaker 12: He was David Cohne, but he was a little older

680
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Speaker 12: David Cone. That that's all I'm going off.

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Speaker 14: I think older David Cone was better. It was Cagy.

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Speaker 12: I mean he was I like, yes, hey, I've got

683
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Speaker 12: no again, Like this is the beauty. We could do

684
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Speaker 12: this at the end of a bar all day and

685
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Speaker 12: there's right or wrong and that's Hey, that's the.

686
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Speaker 14: Beauty of it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Jake, Jake sta Rally John Boy Media, he does talking

688
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Speaker 1: baseball with Trevor Ploof. I love that day and also

689
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Speaker 1: talking Yanks as well.

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Speaker 14: Man.

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Speaker 1: Opening Day cannot come soon enough for you, Jake. I

692
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: am concerned about you. You need games to watch. Stop

693
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: power ranking things that don't.

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Speaker 12: Matter, all right, Terry Francona in the stands. Thank you, guys.

695
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Speaker 12: Appreciate it. Appreciate it goes sports.

696
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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of Stu Gotson Company

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Speaker 2: live weekdays at three pm Eastern twelve pm Pacific.

698
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Speaker 1: Bamoni Jones is with us, always nice enough to spend

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Speaker 1: some time with us, the right time with Bamani Jones,

700
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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcast, asked Israel Goodierez on the

701
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Speaker 1: Zoom Tailor as well.

702
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Speaker 14: Izzy will be upset by this first question.

703
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Speaker 1: He's tired of me talking about Michael Jordan, I think,

704
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Speaker 1: and his greatness. So, Bomani, will Michael Jordan have a

705
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Speaker 1: better career as a NASCAR owner than Lebron James has

706
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Speaker 1: had as a basketball player?

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Speaker 17: You know, I gotta tell you something, man, When I

708
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Speaker 17: when I used to do highly questionable Yes, I figured

709
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Speaker 17: out a very interesting angle slash approach, which was poppy

710
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Speaker 17: would say something crazy right, and I would then find

711
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Speaker 17: some kernel that could be pulled out and turned into

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Speaker 17: something coherent right. And so it became that. And since

713
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Speaker 17: you made me aware that you were going to ask

714
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Speaker 17: this question, I have been actively seeking this, colonel. And

715
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Speaker 17: I mean I've looked bad, I've dug deep.

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Speaker 4: Try hard.

717
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Speaker 17: I just can't quite figure out how to legitimize this one.

718
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Speaker 17: But I can't say this. How about Lebron get himself

719
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Speaker 17: a NASCAR team?

720
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Speaker 14: About that?

721
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Speaker 5: Yes, I'd just be I'd.

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Speaker 17: Just be curious to see how this goes. If he

723
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 17: could get himself a NASCAR team and then they you know,

724
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Speaker 17: they they do get out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 18: I'm glad you're confused by this too, Bo, because I

727
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 18: too am confused by his premise that I would be

728
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Speaker 18: upset with him. I'm not sure, Taylor, who was the

729
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Speaker 18: last time we talked Michael Jordan. I don't even know

730
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Speaker 18: where that came from.

731
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Speaker 1: I mean, I bring him up anytime I can. I

732
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Speaker 1: think we did it last week on the radio show.

733
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Speaker 1: I'm only bringing up the fact that Jordan has won

734
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Speaker 1: three consecutive races as an owner, okay, and you know

735
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Speaker 1: Lebron has won four titles as an NBA player.

736
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Speaker 14: He's the same thing one race as an NBA title.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 14: I didn't realize that was the equivalent, you know.

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Speaker 17: And it came down Jordan and them forgetim, but his

740
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Speaker 17: name and like Tyler or Tyson or something like that.

741
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Speaker 17: He's like, he's not like, want to Taylor's friends.

742
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Speaker 5: What's his name? Tyler Reddickredick.

743
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Speaker 14: There we go.

744
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Speaker 5: Oh, that mean that could go a bunch of different directions.

745
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Speaker 17: So anyway, like, I do think that those three wins

746
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Speaker 17: are interesting. Two guys, he's acting like he came back

747
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Speaker 17: down three to one to the greatest team of all

748
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Speaker 17: time in order to pull that one off.

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Speaker 14: I'm just comparing rings because it's the laziest thing to do,

750
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Speaker 14: and I'm lazy. But Bonnie, that's it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, no, no, no, no no, But like we

752
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Speaker 5: need to.

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Speaker 17: There was a time where I feel like we would

754
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Speaker 17: have absolutely got Lebron out there making that happen. Like,

755
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Speaker 17: let's let's see. I just go, hey man, look Mike,

756
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Speaker 17: and Mike is already a NASCAR legend. He went out there,

757
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Speaker 17: he got in that lawsuit. Yeah, you know, he went

758
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Speaker 17: out there, scrapped it out with these people. Also, let

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Speaker 17: us I mean, it's twenty twenty six, but it'll be

760
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Speaker 17: twenty eighty six and Michael George's black ass owner a

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Speaker 17: NASCAR team still going to be you know, that feels

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Speaker 17: kind of historic.

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Speaker 4: It's does.

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Speaker 1: And he's great at it because he's great. He's the

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Speaker 1: greatest to have ever lived. Taylor made a comment a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I laughed him off the radio.

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Speaker 1: He said, the Charlotte Hornets are going for it. Bomani Jones,

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Speaker 1: are the Charlotte Hornets going for it?

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Speaker 14: What do you mean by it? The chap? I said,

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Speaker 14: vote like you mean like.

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Speaker 17: They're going for it this year or it's a realistic possibility.

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Speaker 14: Bomani.

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Speaker 16: All I'm saying is the last thirty two games, the

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Speaker 16: highest net rating in the NBA belongs to the Charlotte Hornets.

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Speaker 5: Great, that doesn't mean they're going for it.

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Speaker 17: They perhaps would like to have it, but hey man,

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Speaker 17: let's be fair to them. They have three guys that

778
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Speaker 17: one could argue are very good players. Yeah, they got

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Speaker 17: LaMelo and my buddy Rod, who'd watches a Hornet season

780
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Speaker 17: ticket holder, and he obviously watches the Hornets more than me.

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Speaker 17: He swears to me that LaMelo was not a loser, right, like,

782
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Speaker 17: he is adamant that he's not.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 17: He and and so it is my respect for him

785
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Speaker 17: that makes me say, maybe LaMelo isn't a loser, but

786
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Speaker 17: like I and I ain't watching them any of their games,

787
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,359
Speaker 17: but he has the statistical profile of a loser like

788
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Speaker 17: like And that's not to say he don't have a

789
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Speaker 17: lot of points, but a lot of losers score a

790
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Speaker 17: lot of points. But they say he not a loser.

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Speaker 17: I think Brandon Miller is good. And then they got

792
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Speaker 17: a what's his name? Hey, Yeah, this is this is,

793
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Speaker 17: this is gonna be interesting with this cond nipple thing.

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Speaker 5: The whites. You got like a local white you know

795
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Speaker 5: what I'm saying, It's.

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Speaker 14: Best odd couple in sports. LaMelo LaMelo. Yeah yeah.

797
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Speaker 17: And by the way, shout out to everybody who is

798
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Speaker 17: relieved to find out and also the rest of you

799
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Speaker 17: who are a little disappointed to find out that his

800
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Speaker 17: middle name does not start with a K.

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Speaker 18: But that's okay because all of his siblings start with

802
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Speaker 18: the K, so it's in there somewhere.

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Speaker 16: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, But I I do think like when you as

805
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Speaker 17: a white person like Gary Kubiak also on this list,

806
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 17: like when you make this decision that you're going to

807
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Speaker 17: do this, the fact that it never dawns on you

808
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Speaker 17: that maybe this isn't the best idea, you know what

809
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Speaker 17: I'm saying, Like not once, Like if somebody was from

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Speaker 17: LA and lived in like black people La, they would

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Speaker 17: be very careful about having back to back KK because

812
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Speaker 17: it might seem like, you know, you got a problem

813
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Speaker 17: with the crypts. They would this would be in their minds.

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Speaker 14: Yes, I just don't.

815
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Speaker 17: Know how this isn't in your mind or is it?

816
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Speaker 14: Try not to do that.

817
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 17: I don't want to do that, Like, for example, I

818
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Speaker 17: cut Steve Kerr some slack, Yeah, because for those of

819
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Speaker 17: you who don't know, he has a son named Nicholas

820
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Speaker 17: that has to go by Nicholas, because when your last

821
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Speaker 17: name is Kerr, it is a little difficult to go

822
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Speaker 17: by Nick. There needs to be a serious level of

823
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Speaker 17: nunciation when you say your name is nick.

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Speaker 14: It was a family name, right, I.

825
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Speaker 1: Don't know, I don't care, right, but you have to

826
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Speaker 1: say that's slowly too.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 17: You sometimes like I got a buddy whose name is

829
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Speaker 17: Hughes and his last name starts with the S, so

830
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Speaker 17: he's very careful about separating the two. Sure, because because

831
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Speaker 17: otherwise you think his name is Hugh. Anyway, I understand you.

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Speaker 17: Steve Curry just didn't think about it. And I'm understanding,

833
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 17: is he rules the fact that he did not consider

834
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Speaker 17: him but on the board totally get it.

835
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Speaker 5: Yes, double k thing. It's tough, bo.

836
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Speaker 18: There's a K and Luke Cornett who was complaining about

837
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Speaker 18: Magic City Night in Atlanta, and I was laughing at

838
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Speaker 18: Magic City Night because there's all the details of it,

839
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Speaker 18: you know, the owner of Atlanta being involved in the documentary.

840
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Speaker 14: It's all for money. It's all not.

841
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Speaker 18: Just to celebrate an institution. But I just wanted to

842
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Speaker 18: get your thoughts on that. And then, and it's funny

843
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 18: how Luke Cornett calls it out and then everybody says, no, no, no,

844
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Speaker 18: you have to call out every injustice in all of

845
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Speaker 18: sports if you're going to call out this one.

846
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Speaker 14: And I'm just like, Okay, nobody's gonna say anything anymore.

847
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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I saw a little bit of it. I

848
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Speaker 5: was a little.

849
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Speaker 17: I was intrigued by the fact that he cared enough

850
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Speaker 17: to share.

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Speaker 14: This right people he plays in San Antonio.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, and I'll also note I thought that what he

853
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 17: said was very thoughtful. I think the outrage machine just

854
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 17: jumps on the idea of somebody coming down on this,

855
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 17: and I think that there's the people feeling as though

856
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 17: he's ruining their fun. And then there is the next

857
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 17: level of extrapolation that is the most like twenty first

858
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Speaker 17: century of it all, which is him and not showing

859
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 17: adequate respect for the sex workers. I mean, it really

860
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 17: wasn't that long ago that we had kind of Look.

861
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Speaker 17: I say this as somebody, I tell you, by the

862
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Speaker 17: time the first, the second, the third, the fourth, and

863
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Speaker 17: the fifth time I went to Madge City. They all

864
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 17: have distinct like stories and reasons that they stick out

865
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 17: in my head. I am not approved when it comes

866
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 17: to strip clubs, but the idea that it is exploitation

867
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 17: is not foreign, right, Like it is not. Atlanta's a

868
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Speaker 17: little bit different because it's so mainstreamed into the culture.

869
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Speaker 17: But like when you go to strip clubs in places

870
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Speaker 17: that are not really Atlanta, there's a couple of others.

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Speaker 14: Man is sad.

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Speaker 17: Oh yeah, you know, like you get in there, yeah, no, no, no,

873
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 17: you get in there. You just kind of like, hey man,

874
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 17: this is like nobody's nobody wants to be here, the

875
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 17: patrons don't want to be here, the girls, everyone's look,

876
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 17: it doesn't it doesn't feel like a party, right, Atlanta's different,

877
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 17: it does. It's like like mad the City is like

878
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 17: a certain des lay situation.

879
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Speaker 5: All of this stuff.

880
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Speaker 17: However, I do not I did not think it was

881
00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 17: appropriate to do a night at the Rena. No, Like,

882
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 17: the strip club is not a place for families, right,

883
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 17: same people complain about Pride Night. It's different, right, walk

884
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 17: into a strip club. Tell me the one guy you

885
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 17: see that brought his kids?

886
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Like that's.

887
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Speaker 17: Not like a basketball game is something completely different than that.

888
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 17: Now Here is how I think they get around this,

889
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 17: which is basically everything in the announcement about Magic City

890
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 17: Night was like, there's gonna be a t I concert

891
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 17: at halftime, and they were talking about the Wings.

892
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 5: What about the girls.

893
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 19: If it's Magic City? Yeah, yeah, where are the girls?

894
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 19: Oh wait a minute, that's right. It's wildly inappropriate to

895
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 19: have the girls at a basketball game, which is why this.

896
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Speaker 5: Is a crazy idea, you.

897
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 16: Know what I mean?

898
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 5: Like, I'm not I'm not like wildly offended in all

899
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 5: of this stuff.

900
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 17: But no, this is not This is not what it's

901
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 17: supposed to be. You know where I would rather be

902
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 17: the Magic City Night at the at the Arena, Magic.

903
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: City, Yes, yes, that's so good the right time with

904
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: Bomani Jones. There's no way to transition out of weed

905
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: and strip clubs. Well maybe there is, I'm just not

906
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: thinking of it right now. Boston, the Celtics, Jason Tatum.

907
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,760
Speaker 5: Let me tell you what there is.

908
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 17: Not in Boston, Boston. I mean to the Magic City

909
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 17: and they have Magic City Night in Boston. Oh, it

910
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 17: would be some protests, it would be giving not one

911
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 17: damn about some girls but it would be a protest.

912
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 14: Celtics Jason Tatum.

913
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: The people that are saying don't bring Tatum back because

914
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: the team is playing well without him, to me, is absurd.

915
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum when healthy, one of the ten fifteen best

916
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: players in the world, and he only makes your team better.

917
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,399
Speaker 1: What do you think about the Celtics and bringing him

918
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: back here?

919
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 17: I mean, I have to operate on the assumption that

920
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 17: everybody involve understands what they're doing here.

921
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 5: Right, Like, I think it's crazy.

922
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 17: For everything I've ever known about, like what a recovery

923
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 17: from an achilles.

924
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 5: Tear is, it seems preposterous to me.

925
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 17: Now, I do know that what is very unique about

926
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Speaker 17: the situation, and I don't know why it's unique, but

927
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Speaker 17: it is very unique is that they got him on

928
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 17: the table the day after the tear, and that apparently

929
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Speaker 17: is much faster Dominique Wilkins, who had a miraculous Achilles

930
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 17: recovery in nineteen ninety three.

931
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 5: I want to say it was the year.

932
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Speaker 17: They got him on the table the next day, as

933
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 17: I understand it, So, I feel like everybody has a

934
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 17: lot invested in this, right Tatum obviously his body, forget

935
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 17: about the money.

936
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 5: But he's got that invested in this.

937
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 17: The Celtics, they got a lot of money left to

938
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 17: pay him on that deal. The fact that everybody is

939
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 17: going for this implies to me that it's not unsafe.

940
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Speaker 5: Right. Maybe they do this with.

941
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 17: A like he's not gonna pay thirty five minutes.

942
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Speaker 5: A game or something like that. I do think though,

943
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Speaker 5: that if he can.

944
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Speaker 17: Play this year, you start to process this year and

945
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 17: get all those like I'm scared games out of the

946
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 17: way so you don't drag it into next year. But

947
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 17: let us also not forget the reason that they are

948
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 17: here and they are in this situation is that I

949
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 17: don't know about how the whole franchise felt, but I

950
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 17: know my man Joe Missoula found the idea of tanking

951
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 17: out the season absolutely offensive, and that was something they

952
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 17: were never going to do. And the whole reason that

953
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 17: there's even a thought of bringing Jason Tatum back is

954
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 17: these guys refused to be a bunch of losers and

955
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 17: decided that they was gonna try and guess what, they

956
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 17: have a chance to win the East.

957
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Speaker 18: They even made the Anfredy Simon's move that I thought, Hey,

958
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 18: that's a nice piece for them.

959
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Speaker 14: They moved off front of him during the trade deadline.

960
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Speaker 18: And still are like again making moves that seem like

961
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Speaker 18: they're going one way but are going the other direction.

962
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Speaker 14: And it's just been crazy impressive.

963
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Speaker 18: But here's my thought when it comes to Jason tatum

964
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Speaker 18: bo is he's not a guy that you can slide

965
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 18: in with other players and say, hey, fit in. Obviously

966
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 18: that's what happened in the Olympics. He's super talented, but

967
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 18: he needs the ball. He needs all that, and so

968
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Speaker 18: can he And I think this is where his thinking is.

969
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 18: Can he go ahead and just sort of plug and

970
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,720
Speaker 18: play without demanding the ball, without you know, the usage

971
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 18: rate going through the roof and then you see the

972
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Speaker 18: rustiness and you see the lack of chemistry. There is

973
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Speaker 18: it a style of plaything that maybe even he is recognizing, hey,

974
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Speaker 18: maybe I will mess up this chemistry more than people think.

975
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Speaker 17: Yeah, I think there is a great question that you

976
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Speaker 17: asked there. I also think, and I G if you

977
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Speaker 17: got the angel Devil showed the situation that the angel

978
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Speaker 17: is like, well, you know what if I come in

979
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Speaker 17: and you know, I mess up the system and the chemistry,

980
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Speaker 17: and then the other angel is.

981
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Speaker 5: Like, what if they are just fine without me. That

982
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Speaker 5: was his problem.

983
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Speaker 17: But I will ask you this, what if the move

984
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Speaker 17: is to basically turn him into something that we really

985
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 17: don't see in the NBA anymore. We still we'll have

986
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Speaker 17: very good bench players who are still six men, but

987
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 17: we ain't got a lot of Vinnie Johnson's no more,

988
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 17: right even like now they're like Lou Williams and Jamal

989
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 17: Crawford out of the NBA. I mean, six men whose

990
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,799
Speaker 17: entire job is let's get some.

991
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,800
Speaker 5: Buckets right fast. I can play as hard.

992
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 17: As I can get these buckets and go sit down.

993
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 17: If the Celtics have room for that, this could be

994
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 17: imagine telling Jason Tatum, all you got to do fifteen minutes,

995
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 17: put up every shot you can.

996
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Speaker 1: We love having you man the right time with Bomani

997
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,839
Speaker 1: Jones wherever you get your podcast. We appreciate your time, sir,

998
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Speaker 1: and we will talk to you again soon, I hope.

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Speaker 5: All right, brother, take it easy,