WEBVTT - Jeff Garlin 0:00:03.600 --> 0:00:07.640 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome back to the Bob Left Sense Podcast. 0:00:08.360 --> 0:00:11.520 My guest today is Jeff Garland. You know him from 0:00:11.560 --> 0:00:15.480 The Goldbergs, you know from Curb Your Enthusiasm. Jeff, great 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:17.880 to have you here. It is an honor to be 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:22.560 here as a man who reads your newsletters when actually 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.239 every day pretty much every day. Yea, I love it. 0:00:25.440 --> 0:00:29.080 And I contacted you to request to be on. I 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.280 want to be clear. You didn't have to ask me. 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:35.440 I requested to be on with you. So Jeff, Yeah, 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:38.120 how come you're younger and more beautiful in real life? 0:00:38.920 --> 0:00:42.120 I am. I hear that a lot and I don't know, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:46.320 but you know, people say that, which also means the 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.479 flip side. I don't look so good on TV. You 0:00:49.520 --> 0:00:51.040 know where I do look good? I could, ah, you 0:00:51.120 --> 0:00:53.400 do use the old Warren baby thing. I look good 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.880 on film, I really do. I'm even thinking of shooting 0:00:56.920 --> 0:00:59.760 my Next Day and Up special on thirty five millimeter 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.640 if I don't do it at Netflix. Netflix for bids 0:01:03.680 --> 0:01:08.240 film for beds film, and I'm a I'm a pro 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:12.280 Netflix guy. I don't have any problems with the streaming 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:14.760 into the theater. It's like you gotta deal with what's 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.480 going on, which is what you write about all the time. 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.400 It's like, you, sure, I'd love it if if movies 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:24.720 like The Long Goodbye or any Robert altmon moot type 0:01:24.720 --> 0:01:27.759 movie could play in the theater and sustain itself for 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:30.520 six months. That's not the world we live in. You 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:35.040 have to make that movie for Netflix. Absolutely, So let's 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.360 go back a little bit, okay, or afford at the 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:41.040 same time, let's do both. Is Wrighty funk hous are 0:01:41.080 --> 0:01:44.280 gonna be mentioned in the new season of Curb Your Enthusiast. 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:48.080 He has mentioned, Yes, we did mention him. Um Bob 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.480 at first had that being Bob Einstein character playing Marty 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.760 funk Kauser. He at first had pneumonia and we were 0:01:56.800 --> 0:01:59.160 all talking to him and I am gonna be okay, 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:04.640 don't worry. And then shortly thereafter, when he was on 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:08.160 the end, he found out he had bone cancer and 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.600 he was gone in weeks. It's unbelievable the way life 0:02:11.600 --> 0:02:13.760 works with that stuff, you know, it's really devastating. I've 0:02:13.800 --> 0:02:15.080 been thinking about it that you know, you think you're 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:18.119 gonna live forever. I have been to have the CML leukemia, 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.840 which is the only cancer there's a pill four. But 0:02:20.919 --> 0:02:23.520 it wakes you up when I've diagnosed tangers, deal that 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:25.960 I'm not going to live forever and there's a limited 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:27.960 amount of Now you've had a heart attack, what was that? 0:02:28.040 --> 0:02:30.240 You know? I didn't have got a stroke? Stroke at 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.400 a stroke, and I've had heart problems and I've had 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.320 all sorts of help. Let's start with the beginning. How 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:38.919 does one get a stroke? Is there anything about your physicality? 0:02:39.000 --> 0:02:41.960 It was a purely chance it was. I had back 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.560 surgery and after they did it. I'm not saying who 0:02:45.600 --> 0:02:48.000 did Okay, No, it's funny because back that I'd want 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:49.400 to talk off Mike. I've been to see all the 0:02:49.400 --> 0:02:51.880 back doctors in l A. Yeah. Yeah, So I went 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.359 to one of them, who, by the way, excellent, except 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.720 for after the surgery, my left eye was drooping and 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:00.680 my wife would say your eyes ripping and go, well, 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:03.040 what does that have to do with you know? And 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:06.240 then I was so stressed. I had gotten and I've 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:09.480 gotten rear ended, which led to the back surgery, and 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:14.560 I got so stressed and that I developed through stress 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:18.280 and injury, I developed diabetes. Also, by the way, I 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:20.919 want to throw in being fat and not taking care 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.880 of myself. But that's all it takes to flip the 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:27.200 domino and you're off to the races. I woke up 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:29.840 one morning the room was spinning. I thought I had 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:32.680 vert vertigo of some sort, and it turned out to 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.560 be a stroke, and I started slurring my words. I 0:03:36.600 --> 0:03:39.760 couldn't stand all that sort of stuff went to cedars, 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:44.560 and nobody took responsibility for my stroke. It was because 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:48.000 of this, because of that, and I am and have 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.080 been for many years. I don't want to say fully recovered. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:55.840 I never was as quick, both mentally and or physical. 0:03:55.840 --> 0:03:58.720 Really it was. Yeah, but I'm talking about nuances that 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:00.760 I know. No, No, I have the same thing when 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:02.800 I take medication. I complain to my doctors all the 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:05.360 same time. You might think I'm fine, But the way 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:09.080 I connect words and all these other things, I've lost something, right, right, right, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:12.360 right right. I really am bad at names more than anything. 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:14.440 I was always bad, and then it went to all 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:17.640 I forget lots of things. Here's the thing. In order 0:04:17.680 --> 0:04:20.160 for me to be at my best as an actor, 0:04:20.200 --> 0:04:23.160 as an improviser, as a stand up comedian, I need 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:27.360 to have eaten well and slept well. If I sleep 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.960 well and I eat well, and I exercise. I have 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.160 no problems. I am as fast as ever. But if 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.080 I don't do all three, it'll catch up with me 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:39.760 in two days. Well, what people don't realize, you know, 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.920 because it's a badge of honor to wake up early 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.600 and get no sleep in straight business. But when you're 0:04:44.600 --> 0:04:46.679 in a creative business, you don't get a good night's sleep, 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.440 you can't function, you can't make it either way. Many 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.800 of the days that I have worked on the goldbergs 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:55.160 and or curb your enthusiasm, I've done it on zero sleep. 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.960 And the only thing that you know is like I 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:01.680 have a lot of energy early on that day, and 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:05.960 then in the afternoon it's just it's over. And then 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:09.080 you better hope that you're not filming the next day 0:05:09.120 --> 0:05:11.599 because that's the recovery day. So that's the day that'll 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.960 kill you. So let's say you don't sleep at all 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.320 and you work that day. If you've got to work 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:17.840 the next day, and even if you get a good 0:05:17.960 --> 0:05:21.719 night's sleep, you're screwed. Two days. It's a two day screwing. Okay, 0:05:21.760 --> 0:05:23.840 So let's go back to the beginning. Yes, you were 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:28.800 born in Chicago, Chicago, Illinois, June nine, sixty two. So 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.120 you're not quite sixty yet, you're still in that fifties. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:33.360 Will you still think you're young? Yes? Okay, well I 0:05:33.400 --> 0:05:36.720 don't think I'm young, but fifties is a delightful decade. Well. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.960 The funny thing people don't realize, for all the emphasis 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:42.440 on the youth, when you get older, life is better, better, 0:05:43.080 --> 0:05:46.159 lay better. My mental steak as compared to when I 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:50.080 was in my twenties, you cannot compare the two oties 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:52.280 even for their exactly, but you know, it's a secret 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.480 of aging, even though they push you off the assembly line. 0:05:54.839 --> 0:05:57.680 So what did your parents do for a living? My 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:03.440 father was my family had a plumbing supply business in Chicago, Okay, 0:06:03.440 --> 0:06:07.479 plumbing supply? How many general were your parents born in America? Yes, 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.560 and we're their parents born in America. Yes, that's kind 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:15.039 of rare, but it's the generation before that that was 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:16.960 not born in America. Okay. And then how did the 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:21.480 plumbing business begin? Um? That was I don't even I 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:25.680 actually don't know what led them. I know my grandfather 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:29.720 born in America. My dad's father had a jewelry business 0:06:30.279 --> 0:06:32.960 and before I was born and switched to plumbing. Supply, 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.720 and I don't know it was looking for rings that 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.960 went on. Yes, yeah, maybe, yes, because there's more money 0:06:38.960 --> 0:06:42.120 in this Yeah. No, I had no idea. And my 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:46.320 mom was an actress and an artist who kind of 0:06:46.320 --> 0:06:48.880 gave up her acting career. She got into the Goodman 0:06:48.960 --> 0:06:52.359 Theater in Chicago and to raise her children. So my 0:06:52.440 --> 0:06:56.320 mother always lived vicariously through me. And I can tell 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:59.440 you this by the way, I know the exact moment 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:02.000 when I knew I wanted to be a comedian. Now, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:05.680 I was funny from I'm not exaggerating nursery school on. 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.200 I was always the funniest kid and pretty popular, not 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:13.560 an outcast, which is weird. The funny guys usually oh 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:16.400 is he annoying? But no, it wasn't that case. It 0:07:16.480 --> 0:07:20.280 was strange. Now I'm eight years old, this is seventy. 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:24.720 My parents take me to the Empire Room at the 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:30.239 one hotel. It's the oldest hotel in Chicago, the Palmer House. 0:07:30.640 --> 0:07:36.120 So okay, to see Jimmy Duranty. So I'm watching Jimmy Duranty, 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:39.920 and um, looking at jim watching Jimmy Duranty, I can't 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:43.200 I'm so engulfed in what he's doing. And then I 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.680 look at the audience and how happy they are. On 0:07:45.800 --> 0:07:47.720 the way home, I asked my parents if that was 0:07:47.760 --> 0:07:50.520 a job. They said, yes, that's a job. I said, well, 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:53.040 that's the job that I want. Okay. Well, one would 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.679 say a friend of mine books Oprah for live dates, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:59.040 I would say, why would Oprah need to do live dates? 0:07:59.320 --> 0:08:01.880 As you know, Letterman used to say she has all 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:05.360 the money, but he says, there's nowhere else you can 0:08:05.400 --> 0:08:09.600 get that hit from an audience then live right, Well, yeah, 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:12.600 it's joy by the way. One, It's right, it's joyful 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:17.320 and it's purposeful. So she must feel joy and a 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.520 purpose when she goes out there, because for her to 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:25.320 be home alone in a mansion in uh somewhere here 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.600 in southern California, Hawaii, she's really not in touch with 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.760 what she's doing or what people are doing. You know, 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:36.600 if you're mentally made up to be a fat cat, 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:40.920 I think that that's all you know. But if you're 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:44.200 made up to be somebody who contributes like Oprah did 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:48.720 for so long, you need that. You need that. She 0:08:48.800 --> 0:08:51.000 can't just sit at home and go I'm done. Even 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:55.559 Letterman came out to do you. Okay, But This begs 0:08:55.559 --> 0:08:59.120 the question, yeah, you do you need that hit from 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:06.360 an audience? UM, I would have to answer truthfully yes, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:10.120 but not from an ego standpoint, but from an ego 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:13.880 of knowing that my groove is hitting you know, the audience. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.840 I feel the groove, and that groove I improvised generally 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.480 my entire set, so I need them. I need to 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:24.319 feed off them in order to create new things. So 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:28.120 it goes hand in hand. So for me to have joy, 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.920 and I have discovered like I get joy from your newsletter, 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:35.040 even the dark ones, I get joy from it. And 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:38.360 joy is to me what it's all about now, being 0:09:38.440 --> 0:09:42.000 kind to myself and being joyful. So when I do 0:09:42.120 --> 0:09:44.600 stand up and the audience is digging me and I'm 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:47.520 grooving with what I do, I'm filled with joy. Let's 0:09:47.520 --> 0:09:50.439 say you have a great night. Okay, how long does 0:09:50.440 --> 0:09:53.000 a good feeling last. It's it's over by the time 0:09:53.040 --> 0:09:55.839 I leave stage, by the time I go the same 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.280 with a bad I mean, the only time I feel 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:01.280 bad is if I'm a fault for the bad show. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.679 For example, some nights I go on stage and Jerry 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:08.120 Seinfeld and I have had discussions on this and we 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:12.520 disagree he says, it's always you. You're that you're the 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:15.680 one who if you have a bad show, it's because 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:18.320 of you, if you you know what I mean, Everything 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:21.400 is because of you, And I disagree with that. To me, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.240 it's a partnership with the audience. If I've hit a 0:10:24.240 --> 0:10:26.240 group and they've hit a group, it's gonna go up. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:30.120 If I had a groove and they are not there. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.040 And by the way, it's about their d n A. 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:36.040 It's about their job that day, their love life, there, 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.440 how much money they have, everything that's going on in 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:41.440 their lives at that moment. As individuals, they bring it 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.600 in as a group. So I'll go on stage some 0:10:44.720 --> 0:10:47.160 nights a man, I've got my groove and they're not 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.400 digging me. As I say one thing. But the one 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.280 thing that I don't recover quickly from is when they're 0:10:55.360 --> 0:11:00.240 good and I know I'm not. That one really hurts. Okay, 0:11:00.280 --> 0:11:03.120 let's assume that happens. Yes, why do you think you're 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:06.400 not good that night? Because it's it's just it's I 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.720 can use baseball. You go up to the box and 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.000 you're swinging. You're like, I don't have my swing. I 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.600 don't have my swing. I go up on stage and 0:11:13.600 --> 0:11:16.440 it's like oh, Especially as an improviser, I'm like, oh, 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.960 this is not gonna be pretty, this is not gonna 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:23.440 be fun, and my professionalism and my craft carry me 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.680 through to where the audience might not unless they've seen 0:11:26.720 --> 0:11:30.319 me many times, know that it's a less than good show. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.480 I've had this couple of times with musicians where they 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.800 were very depressed after shows because they didn't think they 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:38.800 were right and as a professional you can see the 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:41.920 subtleties they're talking about. But they got a huge response 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.839 from the audience. The general audience didn't seem to resident well, 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:48.320 it goes with that joke. Okay, we're ready, my favorite 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:52.439 joke and I'll tame it for this. Actually, don't have to. Okay. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.160 So a woman goes up to a comedian, this is 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.800 your favorite joke, period or no, this is a joke 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:02.280 that's about this time, And to me, it explains most 0:12:02.320 --> 0:12:05.720 comedians I know in this way. A woman goes up 0:12:05.760 --> 0:12:09.720 to a comedian she says, I saw you on Friday night. 0:12:09.960 --> 0:12:13.199 I think you're amazing. I am going to have sex 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.280 with you. I'm gonna fuck you crazy, I'm gonna do 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:17.679 things to you that you've never had done before. It's 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.760 gonna be the greatest night of sex in your life. 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:21.880 And he looks at her and she's so beautiful, and 0:12:21.880 --> 0:12:23.800 he looks here in the eyes and did you see 0:12:23.840 --> 0:12:27.280 the early show or the late show? And to me, 0:12:27.400 --> 0:12:30.920 that's it, man, if you saw that, if you saw 0:12:30.960 --> 0:12:32.839 the show, I wasn't proud of. I don't want to 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:35.400 have sex with you. But if you saw the good show, 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:38.280 let's go sister. Well that's you know, there's a similar 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:41.160 line about the music business. It's not about the money. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:44.880 It's about the money, right of course. Well that's whenever 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.800 a player says in sports, it's not about the money. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:53.480 Don't say that. So let's go back. Um, when you 0:12:53.679 --> 0:12:56.599 do the show and you improvise, you know, if you 0:12:56.800 --> 0:12:58.840 Richard Lewis, he he comes out with a series of 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.440 notes and he's always looking notes. He's got long long 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:05.800 We've toured together many times. So how much of your 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:10.840 act before you hit the stage is somewhat conceptual in 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:15.880 your brain most of the time? Zero? Really, Yes, Now, 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:18.839 when I'm on stage, a story I've told before may 0:13:18.880 --> 0:13:22.080 occur to me for the moment that I'm in and 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:24.680 I'll go with it. So I have had shows which 0:13:24.679 --> 0:13:29.520 are improvised, and I have had shows that are without 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:34.640 any intent improvised because I told stories that fit in 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.120 with where my head was going and where the audience 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.840 was going. Now, talking about The Deer Departed, Robin Williams 0:13:41.200 --> 0:13:45.120 found a lot of times was the things he said 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.640 were really not funny. The people were reacting to the 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:53.079 energy and the delivery. Now, when you improvise everything, do 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:54.880 you think that and it's a good night that the 0:13:54.920 --> 0:13:58.480 audience is with you or your material is really hitting 0:13:59.240 --> 0:14:01.640 always the ad it's with me. As an improviser. By 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.719 the way, I don't get any points for being an improviser. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:05.760 It's not like you were kind of off tonight, but 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.160 you get bonus credit because you made it all up, 0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:10.600 you know what I mean, especially as I get older 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:15.440 now like I'm about to shoot a comedy special in 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.280 in May. Okay, this is just let's go. This is 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:22.280 for Netflix. I actually, as of yesterday it was for Netflix. 0:14:22.400 --> 0:14:25.080 It might be for Netflix, it might be free. Let's 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.880 just say as if yesterday it was for Netflix, that 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:30.160 would assume that ink is not dry. But you made 0:14:30.200 --> 0:14:33.400 a deal. I've had a deal with Netflix for the 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.320 longest time, so I just still understand the business. Well, no, no, 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:39.080 it was it was I approached them with a budget 0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.160 and and what I wanted to do. They rejected the budget, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:45.480 and they rejected what I wanted to do. What I 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:47.240 wanted to do is I want to shoot it on film. 0:14:47.640 --> 0:14:50.680 Netflix will not shoot anything on film because I want 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:54.120 my Here's the thing, there's it's like making a record album. 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:57.680 It's it's it's like everyone sounds the same. If you 0:14:57.720 --> 0:15:01.680 watch you said, watch Netflix one after another every special. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:06.040 What's different about the comedian? What's different about how it looks? 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.760 And I'm trying to make mine look to be really frank, 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:14.720 like the wedding scene from The Deer Hunter, which which 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:18.360 by the way, sounds crazy, but my it's it's it's 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:21.480 it's the presentation. You're going to be that dark. No, No, 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.200 that just say me speaking at a wedding. I'm giving 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:28.480 a toast the special. Hypothetically, if you do it on film, 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:31.600 much more expensive? Is it? It's not that much more expensive. See. 0:15:31.640 --> 0:15:35.520 Netflix doesn't let anything be shot on film. Everything must 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.080 be four K, six K. I mean you can just 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:41.120 transfer it, you think, but they don't want to do that. 0:15:44.440 --> 0:15:47.800 Your father is running. Is a plumber? Okay? No, he's 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.520 not a plumber? Yes? Was it like? And where is 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:56.280 this in Chicago and California Avenue? Okay? And how big 0:15:56.280 --> 0:16:00.000 on the west side? How big an operation is this? Um, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:02.400 it's a big building. I don't know how many employees? 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:08.480 Do you think? Oh god? I thirty? Okay, so it's 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:11.480 a big operation. And did you used to go there 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:14.760 and help out? I did, which was mostly meant. I 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.120 watched cub games on a little black and white TV 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:19.840 in the front office because it was all day games. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.120 And I went into a room and just collected different screws, 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:25.520 and then I went where the guys hang out and 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.960 there were Playboy centerfolds up on the wall, nine sixties 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:32.680 Playboy centerfolds. And it was very exciting. Okay, So let's 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.480 say I love going. And then on the way home, 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:36.520 my dad would buy me a model that was the 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:39.720 that was it, and that was so happy. Revel models 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:44.120 that a monogram. Did you paint them or just assembled? 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:47.240 I just assembled them too. It could be too serious. 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:49.600 I love the glow in the dark monster ones that 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:52.120 was after my time, A little older than you. But 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:55.080 you're at my house suddenly the toilet breaks, can you 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.640 fix it? No? Okay, so you know nothing. I know 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:00.400 how to plunge. Okay, how many a good plun How 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.240 many siblings are there in your family? I have one brother, 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:09.960 a younger brother who runs a temple in in suburban Chicago. Okay, 0:17:10.000 --> 0:17:14.000 to what degree do you consider yourself Jewish? I'm a Jew? Okay, 0:17:14.240 --> 0:17:17.119 I'm not religious. You don't go to synagogue? I have 0:17:17.280 --> 0:17:19.600 gone many times. I was bar mitzvahed, but I am 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.680 not religious. No, although I am very proud of being 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:26.119 a Jew, and I do believe in God, but I 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:31.120 don't necessarily believe in a specific God. I believe there's 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.800 a higher power than me, something bigger than me that exists. 0:17:35.000 --> 0:17:37.840 I don't know what it is, Okay. And that's something 0:17:37.880 --> 0:17:39.760 you got from a a or is that just something 0:17:39.800 --> 0:17:42.960 you have? Well, hey, you have to find a higher 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.960 power as you see it, and for me, it's more 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:49.280 like life experience that I believe in a higher power. 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:52.679 It also is humbling to know that there's something bigger 0:17:52.720 --> 0:17:55.679 than me. I'm not the biggest thing, you know that 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:58.080 gets out of control. And you see people in the 0:17:58.119 --> 0:18:02.359 world today in different positions, different artists who they think 0:18:02.680 --> 0:18:07.360 that their ship don't stink like literally, and that's not me. 0:18:07.560 --> 0:18:10.399 I I like to be. By the way, I've had 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.679 moments of great ego in my youth, you know, and 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:15.320 even in my adulthood. I've made mistakes. But I am 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:20.240 all about being confident in what I do and being 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:23.840 a humble person, and so being humble that means I believe. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:25.840 And by the way, the higher power to me is 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:29.040 the universe. I just believe this stuff. Okay, as a 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.080 Jew in today's society, today's world, yeah, are you scared 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.080 a little bit? Nope, that's not ignorant. I think a 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:38.160 lot of craps going down most definitely. I think there's 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:42.560 anti Semitism. But for me in Los Angeles, California, doing 0:18:42.600 --> 0:18:45.560 what I do, I don't. I don't. It's not so 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.960 I'm not ignorant enough to say it's not happening. It's 0:18:49.000 --> 0:18:52.840 just not affecting me. It's like poverty is not affecting 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:55.679 me except on an emotional level when I see it. 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:59.040 So I don't like to be you know, you asked 0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:01.639 me what side am I my liberal or where I 0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.920 was before you asked me that, And I told you 0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:08.719 I don't want to be labeled anything, you know, because 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:12.399 I am bothered by it's the groucho marks thing. I 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:14.000 never want to be a member of a club that 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:17.320 would have me as a member. That's really how I am. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:22.120 And I am annoyed by liberals, not as much as 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:27.000 I am conservatives, but I'm annoyed man limousine liberals out 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:30.280 here in l A and the and the political correctness 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:34.120 get the funk out of my way. That goes hand 0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.639 in hand liberal stuff. Unfortunately. That's why I'm saying, don't 0:19:38.680 --> 0:19:41.240 call me anything, you know. And by the way, to me, 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:45.520 liberal means I'm open minded, you're liberal minded, So I 0:19:45.560 --> 0:19:49.600 don't get what the definition is. And then conservatives like 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.040 Michael Moore is one of my close friends I love. 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.440 Other than both of you being overweight, what is the connection? 0:19:55.480 --> 0:20:01.680 There were just great friends and friends for I don't 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:04.480 remember how long has this been going on. We've been 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:09.040 friends for I'll say at least ten years, fifteen years. Okay, 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:10.880 you're gonna make a point, I interrupt. No, the point 0:20:10.880 --> 0:20:13.879 I'm gonna make is whenever I talked to anyone I 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:17.560 know who's got a conservative viewpoint about Michael, they are 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:20.600 they write him off and I say, have you ever 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:22.600 seen one of his movies? And of course the answer 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.800 is no. Um. And they don't realize that Michael could 0:20:26.840 --> 0:20:29.639 sit and have a dialogue with them, he wouldn't be 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.480 close minded to what their thoughts. I remember, he's the 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:35.960 one who predicted that the Trump was gonna win because 0:20:35.960 --> 0:20:38.359 he's in touch with the people that live in his 0:20:38.440 --> 0:20:41.040 home state of Michigan. He knows and these are not 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.960 bad people, you know. So this is one of the 0:20:44.000 --> 0:20:46.560 things we're getting a little off point here. But but 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:49.960 I knew Trump could win because I heard from his 0:20:50.000 --> 0:20:52.920 supporters all day long. You're writing in the New York Times. 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.800 Unless you're on the opinion page, you don't have a name. Okay, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.880 so people are blasting me go while something's really happening here. 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.159 It is. It did. But the point I'm making so 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:06.160 the conservatives very close minded, like and I and I 0:21:06.200 --> 0:21:09.399 lose my crap over that. It's like, please, let's have 0:21:09.480 --> 0:21:12.359 a dialogue. I want to dialogue with the left and 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.679 the right and their extreme views. By the way, if 0:21:14.720 --> 0:21:16.960 you hear me eating, I'm having mango. It's hard to 0:21:17.040 --> 0:21:19.760 not have dried mango. Okay, but isn't dried No my 0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:24.080 nutrition has says that the dried fruit has is easy 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:26.760 to eat and has much more sugar, way more sugar, 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:30.960 way more. I rarely, if ever, I get dried mango 0:21:31.040 --> 0:21:33.440 twice a year. Maybe Why why why is that not 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.359 talking about an old joke? Tonight's the night? Why is 0:21:36.400 --> 0:21:38.680 tonight different from all other nights? Well, here's the thing. 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:41.639 There was some out there. I don't have any of 0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:43.480 this in my house. I don't need anything with added 0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.280 sugar ever. And this is actually you know, whenever I 0:21:47.320 --> 0:21:50.359 go with the stuff there, I cannot resist. Well, I 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.320 do resist automatically. If this was the mango with the 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.119