WEBVTT - KAMERON MARLOWE: Getting Real About Love, Heartbreak & Keepin’ the Lights On 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:15.080 Car she's a queen and talking, so. 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.560 She's getting really not afraid to feel episode, so just 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:23.280 let it flow. No one can do a week quiet 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:27.960 cars time from Caroler. 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:33.440 We are so excited. Let's have Cameron Marlowe on Get Real. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:35.240 So thank you for joining. 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.000 Oh, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:39.519 Well, you're in the middle of a tornado, so thank 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:40.400 you for stopping by. 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:43.080 I thought she met Actually I was like, what are 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:43.680 you talking about? 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.839 You know, you're maybe a rocket ship. You're in the 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:47.840 middle of a rocket ride. 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:48.760 We'll see, we'll see. 0:00:49.080 --> 0:00:51.040 Have you hit moon the moon yet? I don't know, 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:52.279 Mars milky way. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:53.640 I'm just trying to figure it out out see you 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:55.440 weeks already got me kind of stress. 0:00:55.600 --> 0:00:58.480 God, you're doing this in the middle of CMA week. Yeah, wow, wow, 0:00:58.640 --> 0:00:59.680 thank you for coming. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:00.480 Thank you. 0:01:01.480 --> 0:01:03.760 What is it like when you jump on the rocket ship? 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:05.920 I don't know if I've jumped on it yet. 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:09.840 You're on it. You like exploded to me when someone 0:01:09.880 --> 0:01:13.040 like yourself who has this incredible voice. But then you 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.360 were discovered on the internet, right, you were kind of viral, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.040 but then they found you and they're like, oh my god, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.800 he's one of the best country singers of all times. 0:01:20.319 --> 0:01:22.120 Thank god the Internet exists and made him viral. 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.520 No, it's kind of wild. I had like one viral 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.800 moment and I was like after I had been signed 0:01:26.800 --> 0:01:28.760 and everything, and I had no idea what I was doing, 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:31.480 like trying to post stuff and just see you fe 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:34.000 with you love social media? No, I hate it so much. 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.080 Your favorite thing. You wake up every day and you're like, okay, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:38.400 here I am brushing my teeth. 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:39.840 Yeah, oh yeah, I get it. I do. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.840 Get ready with me everything, Get ready with me and 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:44.240 get unready with me in no way. If you want 0:01:44.240 --> 0:01:46.440 another true just follow Cameron Marlowe. He's going to show 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:47.040 his routine. 0:01:47.280 --> 0:01:48.200 The hell of skincare? 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.680 Great skincare? Are you on a big diet regime? Only vegetables? 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:55.640 Definitely not food. I'm not on the Tom Brady die yet. 0:01:56.240 --> 0:01:57.640 What the Tom Brady? 0:01:57.880 --> 0:01:59.400 Oh, he doesn't eat like night. 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:03.560 I think he just like eats pistachios and like doesn't 0:02:03.560 --> 0:02:05.680 eat tomatoes nights. I don't think he eats fish either, 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:08.120 I mean like meat or anything like that. 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.760 Yeah, night lagoons or something. He doesn't need oak plant 0:02:10.800 --> 0:02:12.519 and tomatoes and things that grow in the night. 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.359 Really, I've never You don't think I can tell you 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:15.760 what goes. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:18.040 I want to get to a point where I'm that healthy. Like, 0:02:18.080 --> 0:02:19.560 I want to get to a point where I have 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:24.200 the resources, time and like with the desire to get 0:02:24.200 --> 0:02:25.600 that healthy. Wouldn't that be fun? 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.080 I don't think I could physically do it. I don't know. 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:29.440 I like steak too much. 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:31.000 We had that last night. 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:32.519 There you go so good. 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.799 Okay, so you're a country boy, yes, And did you 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:36.679 dream of being a star? 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.280 I wouldn't say I did. I just come. I come 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:41.799 from a place called Cannapolis, North Carolina Nnapolis. 0:02:41.960 --> 0:02:45.760 Say that's six times fast. Annapolis canis Cannapolis Cannapolis. 0:02:45.800 --> 0:02:46.560 Yeah, it's kind of tough. 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:48.639 That's a great name it is. I love that. That's 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:49.200 fun to say. 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.679 I know it's a homedel earned heart. That's that's our 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.040 claim to fame there. So uh Cameron Marlowe, Yeah, well 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:58.840 we'll see. But like when I was growing up there, 0:02:58.880 --> 0:03:01.400 it's just kind of really small feel, and then now 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:03.839 it's actually kind of started booming. It's like really cool 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:05.760 to go home. They got like a baseball stadium and 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.040 like where the old cann of meals used to be 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:08.840 it's it's wild. 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:13.880 So I really like your album that you just released, 0:03:13.960 --> 0:03:17.040 Keeping the Lights On. Tell me about this, because I 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:20.200 feel like Keeping the Lights On is like it's encompassing 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:24.840 your entire upbringing, Like it's kind of describing your entire 0:03:25.639 --> 0:03:28.400 like childhood into coming into a young man and like 0:03:28.440 --> 0:03:31.440 then having this awareness of your parents and your family 0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:36.160 and all of the sacrifices that your parents went through 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:37.800 to give y'all such a great life that you weren't 0:03:37.800 --> 0:03:39.240 even aware of. Is that right? 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.480 That's definitely right on it. I feel like I grew 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:43.560 up a lot over the past two years. It's been 0:03:43.600 --> 0:03:45.800 two years since my last project, and not that my 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.080 last project was immature, but I feel like me as 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.400 a person, like I just kind of learned a lot 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.000 about myself. I knew I needed to grow up some, 0:03:53.680 --> 0:03:56.720 you know that being on the road and like having 0:03:56.720 --> 0:03:58.600 a big boy job. I guess I was like, I 0:03:58.600 --> 0:04:00.880 don't need to screw this up, Like this is a 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.720 gift and a blessing that even walk out on stage. 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.240 And so you figure that out real fast. 0:04:05.320 --> 0:04:07.200 I did. I did. I think it was like that 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.280 first tour I realized I was like, hey, this is 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:11.480 kind of starting to do something, so maybe. 0:04:11.200 --> 0:04:13.720 Your own tour. It was so you were selling out. 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:15.559 Your own tour, yeah, which was wild. 0:04:15.360 --> 0:04:17.920 Like right away, Yeah, the Stranger Stour, I know. 0:04:17.920 --> 0:04:19.960 It was before that. It was for the last record 0:04:20.240 --> 0:04:21.360 we were Cowboys. 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.640 And that one sold out to right away. And then 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.279 you take out the other hot guy, Tuck her web Moore. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:30.480 It's like Cameron Marlowe and Tucker Wetmore, every freaking young 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:33.599 girl who loves country music's dream come true. Don't have 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:34.560 tons of girls in the audience. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:36.640 Yes, we did, definitely did. 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:38.200 How does your fiance feel about this? 0:04:38.760 --> 0:04:40.520 She knows I would never do anything like that, so 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:41.640 she's fine. 0:04:41.640 --> 0:04:44.320 But I see like a panoramic with all the people 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.000 in the audience. I'm like, dang, this is where the 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.320 young country girls are coming. 0:04:47.480 --> 0:04:47.719 I know. 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:50.200 It's wild, I know, and everybody knows every word. 0:04:50.440 --> 0:04:52.960 It's been crazy just to see him singing songs back 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.000 that I wrote. That's like, that's a different feeling. It's 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:59.040 like something that you can't or the it's only obtainable 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:00.200 on stage, Like to. 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:01.800 Have that, Okay, explain that because I've heard a lot 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.640 of people say this. Had Lily Rose come on and 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:05.479 she was like talking about that too, and it's like, 0:05:05.560 --> 0:05:08.040 what is that? What is happening with you in the 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:09.200 audience when you're on stage? 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.120 I don't know. It's like a deeper connection to a 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.480 point where you're just like, dang, these people have took 0:05:13.560 --> 0:05:15.440 the time out of their day to listen to a song, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:18.200 relate to it so much that they learned the words 0:05:18.200 --> 0:05:20.000 to it, came to a show, bought a ticket to 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:20.440 come to a. 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.839 Show, which I mean, seriously, that's a lot to like 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:24.640 put all that energy into coming to your. 0:05:24.520 --> 0:05:27.360 Show without a doubt. And I'm just very blessed that 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:28.480 people are still showing. 0:05:28.320 --> 0:05:29.800 Up, all the people. 0:05:29.920 --> 0:05:32.840 I know, it's crazy. I'm just trying my best, and 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.120 I enjoy it so much to like make music and 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.960 like write and like just be in this lifestyle because 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:40.839 I never would have thought that this would ever be 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:41.560 something for me. 0:05:41.680 --> 0:05:43.120 You know, what did you think was going to be 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:43.520 for you? 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.880 Well, everybody in my town just stays there until they die. 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:47.800 Do you have a song called lock Me Up right? 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:48.080 Yeah? 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.880 And it's about how you would want to stay there. 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.120 I'm not gonna lie some days like Nashville's kind of 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:55.080 stuffy to me. Tell me why when I moved to Nashville. 0:05:55.160 --> 0:05:59.320 It felt like this place with a lot of opportunities 0:05:59.360 --> 0:06:01.159 and stuff like that, which was very exciting when I 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.160 was a little younger and I was like, man, this 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.240 is killer. I love it. And now I'm like, I 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:09.799 need to have forty acres big old like fence brickfasts around. 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:13.080 Like I think I've learned that I'm an introvert in insane. 0:06:13.279 --> 0:06:15.479 Yes, I've always thought I was an extra extrovert. 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:19.200 And you're doing podcasts. This is like my worst I'm married, 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.520 Like we host at least, No, you. 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:24.440 Give sermons on stage with your songs every night. I 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:26.800 mean that's a whole nother fear for everybody else. You know, 0:06:26.880 --> 0:06:30.360 to get up on stage and seeing your soul out 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:32.640 in front of people that you don't know but are 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.000 connecting with through your music. I mean that is some 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.760 vulnerability right there for sure. And you're telling your story, 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:39.200 so now everybody knows about you. 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:42.200 Yeah, you know, it is a wild thing. And I've 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:44.479 I've always lived a super private life like when I 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:44.960 was growing up. 0:06:45.120 --> 0:06:46.440 Until you released this new album. 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.360 I know, I know everybody knows everything. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.800 I mean, this first Beyance, I'm mad at her forever. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.080 I don't even care that we've moved on. She's still 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:56.480 on my X list. I got a big X. I'm 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.800 just kidding. I'm sure she's great and everything works out. 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.880 You know, you got to break up, but some people 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.560 get you gotta break up. God bless the broken road, right, 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:05.800 without a doubt, somebody should write that song and let 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.040 it be like Grammy winning and all that. You shoot. 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:11.880 Yeah, It's just it's been such a wild ride and 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:14.880 I'm just very thankful that people are still showing up. 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:17.160 And this album just means so much to me because 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:19.960 it's really just like the title track is the one 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:23.640 that really just means the most. Yeah, that song right 0:07:23.680 --> 0:07:26.960 there is just like it's me like through and through. 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:28.640 I wrote it with a guy named Kendall Marvel. 0:07:29.040 --> 0:07:30.840 You know, he's one of my favorite people in the world. 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:32.640 He is the man I love. 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.600 That they don't make him like Kendall Marvel. 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:37.280 They do not. Kendall is one of the Yeah, I 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:38.280 have nothing but great things. 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:40.840 Saying, he's one of the best songwriters and just like 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:44.080 cowboys and country boys and just like what it means 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.440 to be all things that are great in the country. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:47.840 You know, without a doubt. 0:07:47.720 --> 0:07:50.000 That is Kendall Marvel, he like gets it, he understands 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:53.000 the lessons. The lessons of the land does. 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:57.920 But when we started writing that, like it was, it 0:07:58.000 --> 0:08:01.040 was like a shift kind of change for me. And 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:03.040 like I had like some songs picked for the record 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.560 before and I nixed them all immediately. Why I just 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:07.600 didn't fit it. I was like, this is what we're chasing, 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:09.520 like the song and the bones of this. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.680 Song, that's not keeping the lights on. If that was, 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.440 that was keeping the lights on, keeping the lights okay, 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:15.720 Because then there's another one that you said changed everything 0:08:15.760 --> 0:08:17.680 for you, which was never really no, well. 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:20.720 Never really no, definitely it pieced some stuff together, but 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.680 keeping the light song was I wrote it first, and 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.480 that was like okay, yeah, And that was the one 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:25.880 where I was like, Okay, I think I'm going to 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:27.080 go down this route. 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.200 Version of feel good to tell people who you really were? 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:32.680 It does? It? Does? It feels good to not put 0:08:32.720 --> 0:08:34.360 songs on a record, just to put songs on a 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:36.640 record and be selective, you. 0:08:36.600 --> 0:08:39.760 Know, like you're really expressing your journey. 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.920 Yeah, yeah, exactly. And the journey's been hard. 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:44.520 What's been the hard parts? 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:51.240 Not being able to go viral and blow up maddening, 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:53.560 isn't it. Yeah, you can chase it all day. 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.920 Well, it sucks. So it's like artists like you that 0:08:55.960 --> 0:08:59.440 are so great, you know, still have to waste their 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:02.480 timeguring out how to go viral. In my opinion, it's like, 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:05.000 can't you just be great and everyone just figure it out? 0:09:05.480 --> 0:09:08.760 Why don't do social media? I'm just wasting on time, 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.160 Like I don't want me to say like that. I don't. 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:13.800 I'm not wasting great things. And we're grateful there he. 0:09:13.880 --> 0:09:17.160 Is, yes, but it's frustrating to like take time out 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:19.280 of my day when I could be writing songs to 0:09:19.400 --> 0:09:22.880 like put my phone up and play a couple songs 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:25.440 and hope and pray that and read the comments and 0:09:25.440 --> 0:09:27.880 see how that's reacting and stuff. It's not a normal 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.280 way to Leah, I feel well. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:31.959 And also it's like I don't want to have to 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:33.760 have my phone out every five seconds, like I want 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.000 to actually just live my life. Oh you know, I 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.760 just like, what if you want to just go fishing 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.960 or something and not have to document that you're fishing. 0:09:40.240 --> 0:09:42.320 You know, it's just like you're doing it because you 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:42.839 want to do. 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:44.920 It without a doubt, and it's so crazy that I 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:46.839 feel like every time I'm doing something, I should pick 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.480 my phone up and let everybody know everybody. 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.319 And I'm like that, like why because we need to 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.280 let them know we're so interesting, or we're just letting 0:09:52.280 --> 0:09:55.000 them vicariously escape through our lives, or because we're trying 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:57.320 to connect as humanity, Like why are we doing this? 0:09:57.360 --> 0:09:58.360 I can't quite figure it out. 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:01.319 Yeah, it's it's a strange thing, and I don't know. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:03.680 Hopefully we shipped away from it one day or. 0:10:03.640 --> 0:10:06.080 Figure out some good boundaries. Yeah, because there is some 0:10:06.080 --> 0:10:09.040 greatness to it, like people can discover things they never 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:11.079 could have discovered, have businesses, all sorts of stuff. 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:11.640 Doubt. 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.959 Okay, so tell me about your first heartbreak that really 0:10:15.040 --> 0:10:15.920 sent you into it all. 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.280 So I was dating this girl through high school. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:21.520 Oh, like long time, because you're not that old. You're 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.160 only six, lived a lot of life to be on. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:25.960 Only twentyl I feel like I'm ninety two. 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:27.960 Yes, I was going to say that, but I didn't 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:28.960 want to say that. You know. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:32.120 So I was dating this girl through high school and. 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:33.800 See all this is your first love. 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:39.520 Yeah, yeah, first love like went uh we went up 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.120 together pretty much. Yeah, like I had known her or 0:10:42.160 --> 0:10:46.600 had known her since god I was probably ten twelve 0:10:46.720 --> 0:10:47.120 years old. 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:50.360 Oh my gosh, idea of love is her? 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:50.839 Yeah? 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.199 So this is a big, big, no wonder. This shook 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.920 you to your core. I mean, this is earth. 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:58.920 Shattering enough to write a song about it and start 0:10:58.920 --> 0:10:59.880 a hold music. 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.319 Which is WHI You got it out of you though, 0:11:02.559 --> 0:11:04.600 you got to process somehow Well, I'm. 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.360 Such like a well, sorry, I'll tell you the rest 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:07.920 of the story and I'll explain it to you. But 0:11:08.240 --> 0:11:13.520 basically broke up, like right I left college. Yeah, I 0:11:13.559 --> 0:11:16.319 was two weeks away from proposing, so no, I had 0:11:16.360 --> 0:11:17.679 to ring, had to go take it back. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:19.679 Did you talk to your parents and stuff? Yeah, and 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.679 they gave you the blessing. They didn't have it. You 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:24.040 no warning that we're going to get a break up here, 0:11:24.720 --> 0:11:25.240 Not really. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.720 I mean I feel like I might have been trying 0:11:27.720 --> 0:11:29.880 to save it with a ring with a ring, which 0:11:29.920 --> 0:11:33.839 is not a good thing. I didn't know what I 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:34.319 was doing. 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.400 You know what I realized not forty is you can't 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:38.040 really save anything that doesn't want to be saved. 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.439 No, that's a that's a great freaking quote right there. 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.440 So there you go. That's my contribution for the day exactly. 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.880 So you think you can when you're young, especially because 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.120 you're so in love, because it's all you've ever known, 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:51.440 without a doubt. So you got to save it because 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:52.120 you can't lose it. 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.920 Yeah, no, and you you want to save it. But 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.080 at the same time, like it was going to say, yeah, 0:11:57.080 --> 0:11:58.640 it was the best thing that ever happened to me 0:11:58.720 --> 0:12:00.959 because now I have an amazing in fiance, now we're 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:02.240 getting married, and. 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:06.680 A senior love life. It looks really good your aunt 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:09.160 on social media, your love look life looks thriving. 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.000 Oh we really are, Galla, she is the best person 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:12.640 I've ever met. 0:12:12.800 --> 0:12:15.720 That's amazing. I know it all works out okay, But 0:12:15.800 --> 0:12:17.720 so how did the first girl break up with you? 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:19.360 Like you're about to propose in two weeks? How did 0:12:19.360 --> 0:12:20.079 the breakup happen? 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:24.840 So she was in or she was in college and Charlotte. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:27.680 I went to drive over there to kind of talk 0:12:27.720 --> 0:12:30.400 to her, and I thought we were going to hang out, 0:12:30.440 --> 0:12:32.040 and she got in the truck and she was like, 0:12:32.640 --> 0:12:35.680 we don't think this is over. And at the time, 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.080 it like wrecked my world because I didn't know anything else. 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.760 I thought I was doing everything right. Because I was 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:43.880 at this point where like my family had like they 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:46.360 were married at nineteen, so I was like I was 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.560 kind of following in footsteps. I didn't know what I 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:53.040 was doing, so I basically just kind of went home 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:56.240 and picked up my guitar and just had to get 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:57.720 some things off my chest. And that's when I wrote 0:12:57.760 --> 0:12:58.320 Giving You Up. 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:01.240 And that happened like right after she broke up with you. Yeah, 0:13:01.480 --> 0:13:03.640 you're as you're vibrating. 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:05.679 It is. I'm so sorry. I'm trying to ignore his 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:11.120 books that I canna, Karen, listen. 0:13:11.360 --> 0:13:15.240 His is paging of everyone. It's probably his beautiful It 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.480 probably is. She wanted to remind you that she just 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:25.880 wanted to give you a little high. Okay, So immediately 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:28.200 after you got dumped, you went home and wrote a 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:29.559 song about it, and it poured out. 0:13:29.760 --> 0:13:31.679 It was probably a week later after I had kind 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.640 of processed everything. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.400 And had you been performing and writing songs before then 0:13:35.480 --> 0:13:36.600 or is this your big moment. 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.080 I hadn't been writing really. I had wrote like a 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.720 couple of songs that were terrible, didn't Yeah, I didn't 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:45.280 know how to craft a song about it at that point. 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:46.880 I didn't even know that I had crafted a song 0:13:46.920 --> 0:13:48.840 with giving you up. It was more just like words 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:49.400 on a page. 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:50.679 For me, you were like flowing. 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:54.240 Yeah, that whole second verse is like a train of fault. 0:13:54.720 --> 0:13:56.959 It's like you're just like getting your feelings out. 0:13:57.040 --> 0:13:59.120 Yeah, pretty much the best stuff though. 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:01.320 I know that's why people connect with you. 0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:05.440 I agree, and I think I think it's hard for 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.839 some people to be like super vulnerable when they're writing songs. 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:09.839 But I just you don't even know any different. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:11.880 Yeah, I didn't know any different. But I love like 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.480 getting that deep in songwriting and like really going down 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:16.320 the rabbit hole that. 0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:18.240 Why do you love that? What does that do for you? 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:19.640 I think it's kind of therapy for me. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.440 That's your therapy, I think. 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.680 So. Yeah, that and fishing. But I would say writing 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.440 songs is something that nobody can take away from me. 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.320 I can write it and nobody ever has to see it, 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:30.920 but I can get it out without having to go 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:32.400 talk to a therapist. 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.840 You know, Yeah, yes, it does it. So how does 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:38.120 that feel? So you have your therapy moment? You write 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.960 this big song about your ex and now everyone's singing 0:14:41.960 --> 0:14:43.840 it back to you. What does that do to the 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:46.320 process of this broken heart? So tell me the transition 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:48.200 of the broken heart, like your she breaks up with 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.200 you and your boss propose. That's really as bad as 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.120 it can get when you're nineteen, when you're in love, 0:14:52.600 --> 0:14:56.680 and then you write this song to free yourself of 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.600 this pain, and somehow it goes viral, right, so you 0:14:59.640 --> 0:15:00.480 have gone viral? 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:02.880 Yeah, I guess, but it was that was like the 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:04.040 early days of viral. 0:15:04.680 --> 0:15:06.160 Yeah, did you go viral on TikTok? 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.000 No, it was TikTok wasn't even around yet. 0:15:08.040 --> 0:15:08.840 Oh you're preteck. 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.320 I was pre I was Instagram. 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:17.120 Our Instagram viral. Gosh, you never met one of the 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.880 Instagram viral ones before. That's exciting. 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.200 Yeah. So I guess that was just kind of a 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:23.560 moment where I was like, man. 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:24.760 Were you just singing it with a guitar? 0:15:24.920 --> 0:15:27.160 Yeah? I was playing it at random bars like That's 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:29.000 kind of where I started. Was like just random bars 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.640 around Cannapolis and Concord, which is like the neighboring. 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.120 Little town, and people would film it. And that's what 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:34.840 my viral or your post on viral. 0:15:35.000 --> 0:15:37.160 To be honest, I don't know. I don't know if 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:39.920 it ever went viral. It just kind of went on 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.040 and caught on. Okay, and uh, I hadn't really thought 0:15:43.040 --> 0:15:46.360 about doing any music or anything like that, and somebody 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.200 had saw a video that I had posted of I 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:51.400 think Tennessee Whiskey and the voice Rey shout and I 0:15:51.480 --> 0:15:53.040 kind of went on the voice. 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:54.680 Oh kind of, or you did I'm. 0:15:54.520 --> 0:15:58.120