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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.

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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your

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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey

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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the

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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in

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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or

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Speaker 1: scripted as well.

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Speaker 2: I want to start off with.

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Speaker 3: An update of what happened over the weekend. Candy and

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Speaker 3: todd divorce is officially finalized.

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Speaker 2: I want to be able to read you guys the

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Speaker 2: details of what happened.

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Speaker 3: The Jasmine Brand exclusively reports that Candy and Todd have

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Speaker 3: submitted a settlement in their ongoing divorce case, according to

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Speaker 3: a source president in the court room, but their effort

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Speaker 3: to keep details private is facing facing pushback.

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Speaker 4: Excuse me.

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Speaker 2: According to the source, they finalized their.

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Speaker 3: Agreement on March eleventh, where they reached a full and

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Speaker 3: final statement. The case have remained open as the court

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Speaker 3: awaited the completed documents. Long story short, the judge declined

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Speaker 3: to fully seal the case at this time, so because

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Speaker 3: of that brain drops, we may be able to read

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Speaker 3: exactly what happened.

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Speaker 2: There were rumors floating around for.

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Speaker 3: The past week that Candy paid Todd a total lump

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Speaker 3: sum of two million dollars. The other rumor was that

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Speaker 3: he had primary custody and was getting fifteen or twenty

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Speaker 3: thousand dollars a month. Candy has the bunk this, saying

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Speaker 3: all of this is untrue and she doesn't know where

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Speaker 3: people got that information from that it wasn't true. Claudia,

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Speaker 3: what are your thoughts on Candy and Todd reaching the

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Speaker 3: divorce settlement. People aren't surprised that it happened so fast,

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Speaker 3: which I am curious on your take on that.

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Speaker 5: I think happening so fast it means that they're not

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Speaker 5: fighting like we think they might.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean. When you're not communicating and

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Speaker 6: not talking, that's when it drives out.

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Speaker 5: I was married for four months. It took eight months

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Speaker 5: to get out of it. Okay twice. It's going to

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Speaker 5: get out of it because we weren't communicating. But when

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Speaker 5: you are communicating, which they have to because of coparently,

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Speaker 5: and you're someone getting along, it speeds it up. It's

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Speaker 5: a lot faster. You know, so that's a good sign.

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Speaker 5: I don't like that these things.

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Speaker 6: Are to open to the public. As much as we

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Speaker 6: talk about people's business for a living.

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Speaker 5: Right, I think you should be able to keep some

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Speaker 5: of the elements of your divorce settlement private. And I think, like,

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Speaker 5: I don't even think that's asking too much. I don't

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Speaker 5: even know why they didn't allow that. I mean, have

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Speaker 5: it's like, are you not entertained? Have you not gotten

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Speaker 5: enough out of my life?

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Speaker 6: You know, my marriages.

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Speaker 3: He did say that the opposing party wanted it.

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Speaker 4: To be.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that sucks, and Toddy, I need you should be

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Speaker 5: on the same page as your ex wife as far

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Speaker 5: as like not wanting it to be out there. And

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Speaker 5: that's to me, that's just another way of sticking it

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Speaker 5: to you, you know, like I remember when Drew and

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Speaker 5: uh basement guys, what's the husband? The guy I underneath

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Speaker 5: the Stair, I'm sorry Peacock movie, underneath the Stay, I'm

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Speaker 5: sorry my my old age Byanina, I'm sorry forgetting some time.

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Speaker 6: Blame it on my c C if you will.

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Speaker 7: So, Yes, Ralph on the Stairs child.

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Speaker 5: He wanted it public and she didn't, right, Like, I

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Speaker 5: think that's such a whack move like listen, I know

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Speaker 5: we ain't get along right now, but come on, that's

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Speaker 5: just trying to stick it to the person one more time.

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Speaker 5: You want something that it's not to help their partner,

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Speaker 5: it's to hurt them. Usually you're trying to embarrass them

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Speaker 5: with something.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't like it, Todd, knock it off.

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Speaker 5: M my opinion, But you know, like I said, it

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Speaker 5: took me twice as long as a marriage get out,

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Speaker 5: so I get it.

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Speaker 6: So I'm glad that it wrapped up quickly.

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Speaker 7: Though you're being kind of Todd. I don't think it

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Speaker 7: wrapping up quickly was because they were communicating. I think

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Speaker 7: it's because Candy's lawyers were lawyering. Because everything I've seen

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Speaker 7: of Todd speaks of the fact that Aunt Bertha was

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Speaker 7: a prophet and we all owe her fruit basket. I

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Speaker 7: think this. I think Todd has been showing his ass

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Speaker 7: since the holidays, and that it's Candy's lawyers that got

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Speaker 7: it so quickly. I honestly, I love when you see

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Speaker 7: a lover girl who is still about her business. And

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Speaker 7: the thing about Candy that I hope everybody takes note of,

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Speaker 7: even when she loved the dog pissed out of that man.

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Speaker 7: She always had her papers in order, she says. She

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Speaker 7: we talked to Camille Grammar and all these other people

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Speaker 7: who have been through divorces, and they had told her, hey,

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Speaker 7: have a close in there that if you guys ever separate,

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Speaker 7: he has to be off the premises in thirty days.

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Speaker 7: Make sure this is this, Make sure this is that.

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Speaker 7: Make sure if he's working with you as a producer,

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Speaker 7: he says, a producer and not just a partner. So

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Speaker 7: legally there are clear lines around whatever whatever. Even when

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Speaker 7: she was madly in love, she was still about her business.

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Speaker 7: And I think all those safeguards that you have in

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Speaker 7: place even when you're in love, just in case the

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Speaker 7: love goes somewhere else completely covered her. And this is

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Speaker 7: a beautiful like infomercial for legal Zoom. The next time,

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Speaker 7: I mean, I like more than twenty minutes. We're going

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Speaker 7: to get us some documents. Candy, you are like literally

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Speaker 7: my north star. Now a BYuT how to deal with

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Speaker 7: people moving forward, Because as a woman with a little

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Speaker 7: bit of money, I recognize when I date men now

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Speaker 7: and the suv comes to pick me up, there's a

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Speaker 7: twinkle that tells me I don't want to see you

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Speaker 7: no more. You know what I mean. We're in a

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Speaker 7: different age with the men of the baddies now. It's tricky.

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Speaker 7: So as somebody out here in these days streets a

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Speaker 7: little bit of coin, I'm taking notes, and I, yeah,

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Speaker 7: make shot the candy and her lawyer's todd you a mess.

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Speaker 7: But shot the candy and her lawyers for doing whatever

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Speaker 7: they did. And of course I want everything to be

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Speaker 7: open because he needs more story.

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Speaker 5: He needs more story, Lou, we gotta start pretending that

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Speaker 5: we're broke.

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Speaker 7: Though I tried a girl. But I can't fly coach.

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Speaker 5: And oh I fly coach all the time, like I'm

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Speaker 5: a coach flying mid all that aren't listen, I'll spend

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Speaker 5: the money.

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Speaker 7: I have a deposition next week. I have an injury

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Speaker 7: that prevents me from flying coach. Carlos flying, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: A boogie flyer and American Airline first classes trash.

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Speaker 7: It's just American airlizes the spirit plus dirty one all day. Baby.

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry. If I can't get I'm not going, but

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Speaker 7: you no, I I honestly think the girls with a coin.

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Speaker 7: You need to watch what Candy is doing because she

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Speaker 7: loved that man, and she still protected herself. That's that's

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Speaker 7: the biggest lesson in this. Love him and still protect yourself.

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Speaker 2: Dustin Bross her thoughts.

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Speaker 8: I think Candy and Todd and Geez about this divorce

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Speaker 8: shit the whole time. I think that all of us

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Speaker 8: were waiting on the other shoe to drop, so to speak,

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Speaker 8: and things never really got publicly nasty. You know, we

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Speaker 8: heard details and we were making inferences and shit, but

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Speaker 8: half of the shit wasn't true. And what we did

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Speaker 8: find out was every time Candy spoke about it, she said,

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Speaker 8: you know, I really think that after we get the

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Speaker 8: divorce worked out, we'll be friends. She's like, we're communicating,

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Speaker 8: we've been functioning as co parents at the kids events,

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Speaker 8: and we're actually taking a trip together. They've been co

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Speaker 8: parenting successfully and I faced this whole time.

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Speaker 4: And much like Candy.

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Speaker 8: Used to do when she was on the Real Housewives

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Speaker 8: of Atlanta, she's already turned this into any event. She

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Speaker 8: has a one woman show coming up in Atlanta that's

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Speaker 8: already sold out, and I think the title is like

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Speaker 8: I Do, I Did, I'm Done, something like that, but

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Speaker 8: she's already posted it, already turned this into a one

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Speaker 8: woman's show.

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Speaker 4: Go Candy, Just go Candy.

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Speaker 8: Been and shit for so long, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 8: And she's still the shit today, still besting herself professionally

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Speaker 8: every turn, and it really is inspiring to see. I'm

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Speaker 8: a person who believes, like when you break up or

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Speaker 8: relationship ends, you should be on good terms and have

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Speaker 8: a forever friend, to have somebody that to keep your

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Speaker 8: secrets and hide the dope, so to speak, you know

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying. So like, I like seeing this workout

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Speaker 8: for the two of them in a way that's positive.

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Speaker 4: I enjoy. I'm happy to see that.

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Speaker 6: I am sure I think they're breaking up.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we can talk about what however they behave

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Speaker 5: it was before, but it seems that they're I'm not

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Speaker 5: mad at this breakup.

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Speaker 6: I've seen boyfriend girlfriends break up worse than this.

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Speaker 7: Mh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And I think they're doing a great job at Listen.

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Speaker 3: We know that there's been a lot of rumors circulating

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Speaker 2: On the outside looking again.

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Speaker 3: I feel like they allow them lawyers to be mean

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Speaker 3: love you and love lawyers.

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Speaker 2: That's how it should be.

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Speaker 3: No talk to the lawyers, because that's that's how it

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Speaker 3: all happy that And then I get it's messy by

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Speaker 3: both of.

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Speaker 2: Them saying things.

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Speaker 3: So one thing I want to get into that is

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Speaker 3: messy is Cay Michelle on Sherry Shepherd's talk show, Claudia,

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Speaker 3: your cousin caught a stray the beautiful juice a.

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Speaker 4: Door on that floor like that, just laying there was

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Speaker 4: on the floor. I must have missed the bit. I

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Speaker 4: turned around.

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Speaker 8: I was heating one of them turkey wings from yesterday

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Speaker 8: when I was watching it, And by the time I

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Speaker 8: turned back around, Cherry was on the floor in Chartreuse.

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Speaker 8: I didn't know why she was down there on the

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Speaker 8: floor like that was and stayed.

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Speaker 7: It was a lot, Yeah, she stayed down there.

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Speaker 4: Cherry, get up, girls, get up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think seriously, when people put L O L on

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Speaker 5: the floor, laughing my ass off, she like took it seriously.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, no, We're just like, do it.

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Speaker 7: You don't need to.

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Speaker 6: I know we all, but the young kids mean.

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Speaker 7: She couldn't get up, but she couldn't though had no choice.

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Speaker 8: She needed that button they had on them commercials back

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Speaker 8: in the day. I fall and I can't get up.

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Speaker 8: She needed a life alert and that she needed that chair,

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Speaker 8: need to be on a on a railed She could.

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Speaker 4: Do that, but I chare you get up? You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So let me start with Dustin then, because Dustin

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Speaker 3: had two sold out shows last week.

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Speaker 2: In New York City. So was this shade or was

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Speaker 3: to Drew starting with you, Dustin. Do you think it

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Speaker 8: Contradictory because she literally said that she don't she it's

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Speaker 4: So it's kind of like, is it uchio alia one

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Speaker 8: And we've seen ky Michelle show her entire ass on

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Speaker 4: I welcome the new, but I just.

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Speaker 4: Give her some time. I'm sure she gonna break out,

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Speaker 5: Claudia Jordan, I'm kind of sick of people coming for

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Speaker 6: I'll just go up to Drew. I'll just get into

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Speaker 5: And I just feel like it's been done already, like

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Speaker 5: Grammy consideration. Let's not act like she's not like a

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Speaker 5: and I just think that people think that Drew is

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Speaker 6: To be played with like that.

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Speaker 5: Like, I don't know, I don't think that it's in

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Speaker 6: She's not loud.

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Speaker 5: She's gonna be like smirky and say her shade with

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Speaker 6: Season that Drew gotta get this she gotta every season.

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Speaker 5: Like, let's let's go a different rounde unless, like I said,

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Speaker 5: if she's totally justified and Drew some does some crazy

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Speaker 5: you was wrong.

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Speaker 6: But if it's just like all right, I'm picking you.

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Speaker 3: Nay, this is reality with the King and I'm Carlos King.

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Speaker 3: Let's get back into the show.

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Speaker 2: Blue, you better look.

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Speaker 7: Out for your cousin.

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Speaker 6: I'm about my family, you know what.

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Speaker 7: So interesting, I think Drew's biggest sin because I do

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Speaker 7: Durwin playing Juice of Door. Okay, that's how long the

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Speaker 7: Drew really wants a lot of things and lets us

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Speaker 7: poke her face. And people sometimes penalize you for that

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Speaker 7: Michelle's is a superstar musically, right, Because she Drew wanted

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Speaker 7: that level of stardom so bad, it's almost like an

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Speaker 7: if Stacy and Angel had a baby. That to what

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Speaker 7: will give it back. I'm from I'm from Chicago, like

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Speaker 7: just pulls an Angel and like, oh, Drew, get up

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Speaker 7: Is the fan gonna be cool like Stacy or hot

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Speaker 7: like she does? She's an Angel Stacey hybrid in my opinion.

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Speaker 7: So I think that's why the girls be conflicted with her,

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Speaker 7: The lady's been around for decades in this industry. So

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Speaker 7: just based on her IMDb page, we do have to

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Speaker 5: I mean, move all kinds of stuff that she's done.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I hate people about people's careers. It ain't

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Speaker 4: Don't want to be bigger and on the same show.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, how are you gonna shave me? We have

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Speaker 8: And while Drew may not have as much success as

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Speaker 8: Cae Michelle in music, Drew Sodora is relevant to entertainment

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Speaker 8: overall because she's been acting since she was a fucking child.

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Speaker 8: That literally, so like she has just as much equity

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Speaker 4: Michelle does.

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Speaker 8: In fact, if they both walk down the street in

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 8: Like, I you got to think about that before you

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Speaker 4: So I'm a Claudia on this one.

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Speaker 8: I don't really like the music shaming shit, you know

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Speaker 8: what I'm saying, Like, y'all on the same show, Find

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Speaker 8: something else to argue about.

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Speaker 7: Find I think to your point is Drew's resume speaks

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Speaker 5: Which kind of sucks, right because it's like you damn

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Speaker 5: if you do you damn if you don't write, like

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Speaker 5: if you act like you don't care, like that's oh

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Speaker 6: I just I get sick of it, and and I

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Speaker 6: want to just make it very very clear. Ky Michelle,

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Speaker 5: The voice is amazing, You're super funny, Juice of Door.

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Speaker 5: I wish they could have collabed, but you know that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'll say this.

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Speaker 3: I as somebody who worked with Cam Michelle on Love

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Speaker 3: is a force to be reckoned with. I thought ky

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Speaker 3: Michelle was being kind with the Shade, because we know

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Speaker 3: I thought the beginner's thing was very much light shade.

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Speaker 3: I think the people around her made it bigger than

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Speaker 2: That's how I took it.

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Speaker 3: I think Michelle was definitely trying to play it nicer.

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Speaker 3: The other thing for me is this, I have been

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Speaker 3: and Beyonce in terms of how how many times I

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Speaker 3: I did it to me is.

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Speaker 7: Maybe I'm gonna listen to a child.

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Speaker 3: It's what I did it, and it's it's fan. It's fan, Clia.

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Speaker 3: I'm actually wearing shorts. In case you were curious, I

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Speaker 3: was like, claud.

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Speaker 7: Came out, know draws.

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Speaker 4: Short. It's like the two Crucid move some.

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Speaker 7: We all suddenly started.

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Speaker 6: Flood lately.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, Claudia, Okay, So the thing.

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Speaker 3: I agree, I think you can't deny Juice of Dora's musicality.

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Speaker 3: You can't deny Kim and Show's musicality. I would me,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna I'm gonna befriend you again. We don't know

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Speaker 3: with this. I don't like the pouncing on one person

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00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,280
Speaker 3: we're seeing down on Billy Hills with Amanda. We saw

441
00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: the States and Potomac. It's not good television. I hope

442
00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: that everybody is impounding on Drew. It doesn't make for

443
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 3: good TV. I want I want unexpected beats. I'm not

444
00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 3: gonna name names until we watched the season. There are

445
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,680
Speaker 3: so many obvious people to beef with that it makes

446
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 3: me bored when y'all let this one or two get

447
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 3: away with everything, and y'all don't challenge them, and y'all

448
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,399
Speaker 3: don't y'all don't y'all.

449
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 9: Don't do y'all don't do what Kenya Moore used to do.

450
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,159
Speaker 9: You know what I'm saying, which is, let let me

451
00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 9: spar with somebody that's unexpected, like to go for expected.

452
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,600
Speaker 3: To me, it is lazy. We haven't seen what happen yet.

453
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,800
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see it. But I hope that

454
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 3: everybody is not positive on juice. Dora's not what I want.

455
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 8: To watch the season We almost got a new beef.

456
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,760
Speaker 8: We almost got a new beef today though, did y'all

457
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,159
Speaker 8: pep doing that Sherry interview when Sherry had made a

458
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 8: yoda ling she was, she was like, she made a

459
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,160
Speaker 8: yodeling noise, like she was yolderling at referencing Kay Michelle.

460
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 8: And then it was like a two second beat and

461
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,639
Speaker 8: came and Shell was like, and it's a real talent.

462
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: Watch watch that part. Go back, y'all gonna make.

463
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 7: Me turn to come you know, you know Sherry's sensitive.

464
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 4: Tell me what they say in the comments too, but

465
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: ship off again.

466
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,440
Speaker 6: I'm gonna read down againk.

467
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 8: Michelle was Sherry Sheppard did imitated a yodeling noise, and

468
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 8: she was referencing the fact that came Michelle can yodle,

469
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 8: but I think came. Michelle was slick offended by it

470
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,520
Speaker 8: because literally it was like a two second beat and

471
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 8: she was like, and it's.

472
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 4: A real talent and you know that real come out.

473
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 4: Just go back and watch that clip.

474
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,480
Speaker 7: Will because us to your point, She's very sensitive about

475
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 7: how people don't put enough respect on how long she's

476
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 7: been a cowgirl?

477
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, her actual roots.

478
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, she didn't get it from watching Beyonce. Like she

479
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 7: really is a country girl. Who's proud about that. So

480
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 7: if all the things for Chry to make fun of,

481
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 7: and honestly, Sherry, you know again, Sherry is very sensitive

482
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 7: because remember that one time Nia long Chin checked her

483
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 7: and she cried about it for two weeks.

484
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,360
Speaker 4: I was there. Oh that was at the Fellow premiere.

485
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 4: I was right there.

486
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 10: Oh yeah, right, yeah, really said because Sherry looked very Okay, Okay,

487
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 10: it isn't.

488
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: Funny like you want to say who it was dusting that?

489
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 3: M hm, that's her name, Ryan would be.

490
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,680
Speaker 4: I'll tell you later.

491
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 8: But I ain't gonna do that ship for the you know.

492
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 7: The chat, in the chat, I've been my part.

493
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 3: Join the bag, baby, I'm but look, the thing is

494
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 3: that I'm looking forward to Atlanta house Wise. It returns

495
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 3: on Easter Sunday, April fifth, on brah Bo. Okay, speaking

496
00:23:55,640 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 3: of Bravo, we have to see if these girls broke

497
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 3: girl code Blue and Claudia and of course Dustin.

498
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 2: I wanna get your thoughts too.

499
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 3: So if you've been watching Maritime medicine this season, we

500
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,120
Speaker 3: all know that Quad was dating this man named King.

501
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: They have recently broken up.

502
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 3: We've learned they've broken up because King decided to reveal

503
00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:23,440
Speaker 3: it first. I did an interview with Toya, Butch Harris

504
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,879
Speaker 3: and Eugene and Toya. My interview mentioned at her and

505
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 3: Eugene still are friends with King despite the break of

506
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 3: a Quad and that you know Eugene and King develop

507
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 3: a friendship.

508
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: So Dustin and Claudia over the weekend.

509
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 3: I actually want to say, yesterday, if I'm not mistaken, Toya,

510
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 3: Toya posted this.

511
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 2: It's not like a fan watch saw it. Toya posted this,

512
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: and I want to show it to you guys.

513
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:07,439
Speaker 3: Okay, So in this, Toya Bush Harris says, I just

514
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: try to be nice and consistent to everybody.

515
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 2: I know.

516
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 3: It's messy af it is Toya and Simone with King

517
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:24,879
Speaker 3: at the Atlanta Hawks game. A lot of people have

518
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,080
Speaker 3: a lot of strong opinions on this.

519
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 2: I want to start with the ladies, starting with you.

520
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 3: Blue, did Toya as Simone break girl code? Because if

521
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:41,040
Speaker 3: you met this guy courtesy of me introducing him to you.

522
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 7: And.

523
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 3: Y'all are still friends with him, Toya says, she still

524
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 3: follows King. Should Simone and Toya, out of solidarity for.

525
00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:59,119
Speaker 2: Their friend, Quad, not befriend King any further.

526
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:03,680
Speaker 7: I think it's calculated, corny hater behavior. I think it's

527
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 7: very transparent. It's not a Scooby Doo mystery. It was

528
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 7: meant to be messy. Bro Like, I think you look

529
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 7: stupid for you to sit there and put on that

530
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 7: heavy fucking filter. Excuse me, sorry, let me kill for

531
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 7: you to sit there and put on that heavy filter

532
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 7: and smile next to this man, knowing what your girl

533
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,080
Speaker 7: has been through and how she wanted to have a

534
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 7: child with him. They had a breakup. It's probably still painful.

535
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 7: It's probably so fresh the public is just finding out

536
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 7: about it. And if you do not just take the

537
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 7: heavily filtered picture but post it with that caption. It's corny,

538
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 7: it's transparent, it's dusty behavior. I don't think it's I

539
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 7: don't even think it's debatable, to be perfectly honest, because

540
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,640
Speaker 7: it's not like they were torn because they had this deep,

541
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 7: soul searching relationship with him and her and they didn't

542
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 7: want to choose. There's an argument for that, right, they

543
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 7: had a shallow Reality TV experience with him where they

544
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 7: washed him run off Greg and he wouldn't go nowhere.

545
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 7: And now he's left Claude, so now he's claud gets

546
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,679
Speaker 7: to use her mouths collateral damage. Right. I don't like

547
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 7: it that picture was for Quad, and I actually have

548
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 7: been in a situation where I stopped being friends with

549
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 7: someone and they ran into my ex and I was

550
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 7: later told by a third party that they wanted to

551
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 7: get link up to take a picture despite me not knowing.

552
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,360
Speaker 7: I had to block both of them. You also performing

553
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 7: for yourselves. I didn't buy tickets for the show, So

554
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:19,680
Speaker 7: as someone who's been that person who knows how dusties

555
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 7: find each other in the dark to try to mess

556
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 7: up your light, I think it's whack behavior. And it

557
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 7: lets me know that you guys think about Quad. It

558
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 7: she is a re free in your mind, miss Quad,

559
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 7: Miss Quad, miss Quad.

560
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: Still that girl, Claudia.

561
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 6: You're not my friends.

562
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 2: Yep, you're not.

563
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 5: First of all, I don't fight anymore, but like that

564
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 5: would make me feel like the urge, like you met

565
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 5: him through me. This is not the first time y'all

566
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 5: be a friend in an ex and then played in

567
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 5: my face. That's where it's really like it ain't like

568
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 5: a oh my bad. It's one thing if you were friends.

569
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 5: I had friends that knew a guy before me, but

570
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,080
Speaker 5: when they saw how dirty he did me, they were like,

571
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,360
Speaker 5: I knew him longer, but I'm not messing with him

572
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 5: on the strength of what he did to you. So no, like,

573
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 5: I think this is mean toy and simoan, Like you

574
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 5: knew what she was doing and you're on a TV show.

575
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 6: You know the blogs are gonna pick it up. You're

576
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 6: doing it for that.

577
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 5: I know it's messy, but no, man, we're our friends,

578
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 5: and next season I'm gonna make it very clear that

579
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 5: I'm not your front if you do that, because you

580
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 5: know all the the whether you like her or not.

581
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 5: Like she's going through a public breakup after the failure

582
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 5: to get pregnant and that's a sensitive time, and you're

583
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 5: gonna take a picture with my op and all everyone's

584
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 5: smiling and laughing, and then you know, again, it really.

585
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 6: Pissed me on people do the things publicly.

586
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 7: You can see him and.

587
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 5: Be like, hey, what's up, man, Yeah, you know, come

588
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 5: buy the house. Were having to cook ouh blah blah blah.

589
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 6: But posting a picture in this day and age when

590
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,800
Speaker 6: everything all the blogs, you know, they're all watching, it's

591
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 6: just it's just mean. I think it's mean. I think

592
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 6: it's mean.

593
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 8: Dustin They jealous of Choir got bigger balls than all

594
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 8: of them. She was willing to leave her fucking her husband.

595
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 8: She was willing to leave her husband and move on

596
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 8: with her life. And that's something that they didn't have

597
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 8: the hutzpa to do. Okay, we watched Simone and her husband, Cecil,

598
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 8: have that breakdown live on the reunion. I believe it

599
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 8: was season six or seven. One of them had that

600
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 8: breakdown on the reunion stage. Came back together, beautiful moment.

601
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 8: But Simone has been one to leave. She moved to

602
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 8: the South House or the North House, whatever it was.

603
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 8: She been wanted to get down, get on down the

604
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 8: road from Cecil. She alluded to it again this season,

605
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 8: and I think that there's something in her and Toya

606
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 8: that is jealous of Quad's quest for independence and her

607
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 8: win at that quest. Right, Quid ain't never needed a

608
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 8: nigga for shit. She saved all her money when she

609
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 8: was missed. She's talked about it openly, how she saved

610
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 8: all her money from the show and invested it and

611
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 8: put herself in a great position. She living just as

612
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 8: good as them with that. And they're married to doctor

613
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 8: Simone is a physician. Toya is married to a physician.

614
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 8: Quad is keeping up by her damn self. Then she

615
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 8: finds a man who actually is willing to love her

616
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 8: in public. They have a good what we thought would

617
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 8: looked like a good relationship at first. I think they

618
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 8: wanted to see that shit fail. I think they care

619
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,120
Speaker 8: about Quid because they've been around each other for twelve

620
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 8: years now. But there's a jealousy there because Quid has

621
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,160
Speaker 8: always been on her independent shit. She didn't want to

622
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 8: give her ex husband a baby. That gave her hell

623
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 8: for that. Maybe you need to think about having a baby,

624
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 8: think about what he wants, all that other shit and

625
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 8: now look, you know, she could have been stuck and

626
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 8: linked tied to that motherfucker forever, you know. And like

627
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 8: you said, there's a pattern here. They did it here

628
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 8: and made us suffer.

629
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: We was not.

630
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 8: It was mighty bad years. The seasons we had to

631
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 8: suffer through, Sweet Tea was it was hard for us

632
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 8: and we had to experience that suffrage because of Toya

633
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 8: and then wanting to be messy and bring her on

634
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 8: the damn show.

635
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 4: So this is a pattern.

636
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 8: Even though Toya looked really pretty in that heavily filtered picture,

637
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 8: that was a pretty picture of Toya.

638
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, she looked really pretty. But that was messy.

639
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 8: And now when Qui get on there next season, I

640
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 8: don't want to hear nobody crying when Qui come on there,

641
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 8: cussing them the fuck out, digging straight in their business.

642
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear Ship because this is the

643
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 4: gateway right here. Qui was being fair in part one

644
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: of the reunion.

645
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 8: This this is that Toya started it, Toya and Simon

646
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 8: because some on all that leaning in POKINGO, all that.

647
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 4: That you don't have to do, all that you could

648
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 4: have been like you know what I'm saying. It was

649
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 4: leaning and Ship. They gonna pay for that.

650
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 8: And I can't wait to see Qui tear they asses

651
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 8: up next season.

652
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: So that picture was for Quad, nobody else but quiet.

653
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 7: Some hating ass tricks. I'm sorry. And to be that

654
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 7: old and hate folk, I'm sorry. Once you let me

655
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 7: let me breathe. I have a thing about people who

656
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 7: hate to see other people when even when they're winning,

657
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 7: we talk about soor losers we don't talk about sort them.

658
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 7: Some people in this world. I hate that mean, nobody

659
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 7: doing better than it's hating on you. Have you ever

660
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 7: been to New York or LA. That's a lie. You're serious,

661
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 7: that's a lie. Right, And so we don't talk about

662
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 7: people who will have all the fact similes of success

663
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 7: because they still have that hole inside of them. They're

664
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 7: never satisfied that exists. People could be successful and still

665
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 7: be hateful. This is a perfect example.

666
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: Hopefully Quod is hateful next season, because.

667
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: I think that's why I happened, the reason why I

668
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 3: wanted to emphasize that.

669
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: Look.

670
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 3: Toya posted this on her own page mentioned I know

671
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 3: it's messy, af I know Toya may not be the.

672
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 2: Most championed person.

673
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 3: I think Toya is playing a Reality Stars game. Yeah,

674
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 3: and she's playing she's doing this. I think Toya is

675
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: doing this for her content for next season. Quad is

676
00:32:56,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: going to deliver to see Quad versus his toy. Yeah,

677
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: both women who have the first chair after reunion with

678
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: Claudia and Blows the first time that non doctors got

679
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 3: first chair.

680
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 2: After reunion of Wow.

681
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 7: Jackie was probably putting in the bag.

682
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 2: Sorry she didn't share a dressing room with some mom.

683
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 8: But look I I wouldn't have either of that. Damn

684
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 8: yelling shut up some I'm trying to put my dress on.

685
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I wouldn't want it to

686
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 4: be in there either.

687
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 8: Simon, but you please shut the fuck. You know, Jackie

688
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 8: probably would have told that. Should Jackie be touching backstage,

689
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 8: I could have retired.

690
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 7: I could have retired, but you couldn't, okay, because you

691
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 7: have eighteen dependents.

692
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

693
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 5: Sorry, cast over kids, castover kids, people.

694
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 6: Trying to shame me.

695
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 7: Oh you kids.

696
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 6: Oh, I ain't gonna know that. How was Disneyland with

697
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 6: your four breaths? I was a r at the Ritz?

698
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 6: Okay anyway, sorry.

699
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 3: Lord, go ahead, Okay, our last thing of the night

700
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 3: before I'll let you all go at it. Enjoy the

701
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 3: rest of your night, your cats, your food, your men,

702
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 3: and your leftover It's okay.

703
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 2: So the last thing is.

704
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,480
Speaker 3: Mariti Medicine Reunion. So listen, rain Drops go to Patreon.

705
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: Me and Dusty recaptain Ty Reunion. I want to talk

706
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 3: about this clip first. I can't show her for copyright reasons,

707
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 3: but you guys watched it to Blue and Claudia it's

708
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 3: Simone and Jackie. You know, this is a thirty year friendship.

709
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: And Simone is pissed at Jackie because she felt that

710
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 3: Jackie did not have her back against Doctor Heavenly and

711
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 3: Simone is adamant that she cannot get past this. Do

712
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 3: you think, Claudia that Simone is overreacting?

713
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: I don't know.

714
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 6: I'm trying to remember everything about that part. I was like, wait,

715
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 6: why you go to me first? I might not myself

716
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 6: to remind myself. See, I told you I have.

717
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,240
Speaker 7: She really has a notebook.

718
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: To someone else, I will say this we on somebody else.

719
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: You missed it earlier. Somebody in the chest said, thank you.

720
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 3: You almost saved their life because they were able to

721
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Speaker 3: get the lie bloods cells y.

722
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wanted. I wanted to make sure you knew that.

723
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: All right, So as Claudia remembers, I'm gonna go to Blue, y'all.

724
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 7: Remember and follow me. I have a little bit of

725
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 7: ADHD sponsored by ADHD. The girls, yes, the girls might know.

726
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 7: Back in the day, there was this product in every

727
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 7: household of anybody who was getting a whole home perm

728
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 7: with low density hair. It was called Pink Moisturizer.

729
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 4: Pink.

730
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 8: Yes, yes, I feel blusters.

731
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 7: Yes, moisturizer, right, it smell like petroleum and bad credit. Yes,

732
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 7: I feel like Doctor Jackie and Simona like the pink

733
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 7: let's just pink moisturizer rendition of the Green Eyed Bandits.

734
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 7: It's like, you know, the greed from the other potomac.

735
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 7: I feel like where Gazelle finally spread her wings and

736
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 7: let that lady go, and they did reasonably shady elsewhere,

737
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 7: but on the franchise still for herself, we saw a

738
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 7: different I think it was good for Gazelle. So in

739
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 7: the same way, when if I think of that duo,

740
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 7: I think of the pink, lusterous moisturizer. For some reason,

741
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 7: those two are just like these two old friends who

742
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 7: have bad habits, but they have lots of years, lots

743
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 7: of love, lots of codependency, And I think I would

744
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 7: actually like them individually better because they're like an echo

745
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 7: chamber with each other. They tend to reward each other's

746
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 7: bad behavior and do the whole mean Auntie thing where

747
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 7: they're roasting people all you know, low dence, the hair

748
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 7: just angry all the time, And so I personally would

749
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 7: prefer if they broke up. I think the home per abandits.

750
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 7: If they broke up, I think they'd be better people.

751
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 7: I think they'd be kinder. I also think, just like

752
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 7: we're seeing with Beverly Hills. By the way Carlos interview

753
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,839
Speaker 7: did with Amanda from Beverly Hills, I'm so happy you

754
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,239
Speaker 7: did that. Thank you, because the way the elders who

755
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 7: I used to I love several people on that show,

756
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 7: but the way they treated Amanda just showed me about

757
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,400
Speaker 7: this generational divide that happens when a certain old guard

758
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 7: does not want to relinquish to the young girls, and

759
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 7: how they're nasty elders. I'm bringing that up because it

760
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,760
Speaker 7: feels the same way with Simona Jackie.

761
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: We do a whole episode about that, because it happens

762
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: in this industry where the all guard does not want

763
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 3: to relinquish the opportunities to the younger generation.

764
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: Coming up. Sorry I am projecting, No, it's true.

765
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 7: It's very true though, because the reason why I'm bringing

766
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 7: that up is when they see the girls be healthier,

767
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 7: they resent the health that they didn't know how to

768
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 7: advocate for and when it was their turn to be young,

769
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 7: and there's a resentment there that has them by the

770
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 7: ankles again. And I just think that if they broke

771
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 7: up as friends, they might have to figure out how

772
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,839
Speaker 7: to actually be hospitable and upgrade and maybe put away

773
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 7: the moisturizer and go get a blowout Dominican Salona something child.

774
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 7: The girls who know about black hair know what I

775
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 7: mean when I say love them toity pink moisturize at home.

776
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 2: From your understanding, no, I used it when I had

777
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 2: hair back in the day.

778
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 3: I don't get it, Okay, I know exactly what you're

779
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 3: talking about, all right, dustin your thoughts.

780
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 8: I I I hear you, Blue, I hear you.

781
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 4: I hear where you're coming from.

782
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 8: I think that in this case, also, Simone is very

783
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 8: resentful of Jackie and Heavenly having a legitimate, actual friendship,

784
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 8: because they do.

785
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 4: They're actual, real friends.

786
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 8: They talk daily on the phone, hang out all the

787
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 8: time off camera, and they're an unlikely pair, which those

788
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 8: are the sometimes the best, most fulfilling friendships. Right the

789
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 8: motherfucker you didn't never thought you would have been cool with,

790
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 8: they end up being your best friend and you're like, wow.

791
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 8: And I think that the moment that doctor Jackie took

792
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 8: Doctor Heavenly seriously and actually connected with her and became

793
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 8: bessies with her.

794
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 4: I think that Simon was.

795
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 8: Affected by that, and I think that that's what we're seeing.

796
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 8: Simon don't give a fuck about Heavenly saying she pushed her.

797
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: That's just her.

798
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 8: That's the device that she's using to force Doctor Jackie

799
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 8: to pick a side in their friendship and take her

800
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 8: side over Heavenly for once in her mind, you know.

801
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: What I'm saying.

802
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 8: And I think that that that's the long and short

803
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 8: of it. It's a lot of other shit there too,

804
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 8: But I just think that she hates the fact that

805
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 8: jack that Doctor Jackie actually loves Doctor Heavenly.

806
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 7: But do's a actual question because I love that, you up,

807
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 7: because they actually I love the girls who were mean

808
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 7: back in the day are the same girls who would

809
00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,439
Speaker 7: judge a Heavenly m right. Think about this, right, there's

810
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 7: a certain respectability politics that Simone and Jackie have. In

811
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 7: an echo chamber, Heavenly is seen as the hood ride

812
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 7: who's called her husband Daddy all the time and running

813
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 7: around and having no cuth and you know, just being

814
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 7: a little bit on white fridge. She's been a little

815
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 7: white white fridge in their eyes. For doctor Jackie the

816
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 7: bougiest to be so cool with the country. You know,

817
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 7: hey girl, hey one. I feel like some part of

818
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 7: Simone's superiority complex is offended by that.

819
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

820
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,879
Speaker 7: I love is the girl who's my replacement.

821
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

822
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 8: And it's crazy because Simone actually has a lot in

823
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 8: common with Heavenly when it comes to their willingness to

824
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 8: cross certain.

825
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 7: Lines getto two friends respect.

826
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 4: You know.

827
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know what I'm saying, The best of us are,

828
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 8: so I just feel like, you know, I feel like

829
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 8: that's what this whole problem is. This is all Simone

830
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 8: expressing that she don't want Doctor Jackie and Doctor Heavenly

831
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 8: to be close friends, and she feels displaced by the

832
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 8: authentic city of their friendship. It's one thing for Doctor

833
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 8: Jackie to fuck around Doctor Heavenly on the show and shit,

834
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 8: but the minute that that turned into a real, years

835
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 8: long friendship to the point now where as you can see,

836
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:16,360
Speaker 8: Simone is literally crying on TV for Doctor Jackie to

837
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,959
Speaker 8: take her side over at Doctor Heavenly's side, but Heavenly.

838
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 7: Defends her more. If I have a writer as a

839
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 7: bougie girl who tends to have hood friends, I have

840
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 7: a hood friend who has my back on some well,

841
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 7: I'm giving my little EQ speeches. I'm gonna have her back.

842
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 8: Back also blue, let's zoom out. Doctor Heavenly is funnier

843
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 8: than Doctor Simone. While Doctor Simone is funny, doctor Heavenly

844
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 8: is more funny. I know that doctor Jackie, who we've

845
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 8: seen like to laugh for years.

846
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: That's a little mess that she likes to laugh.

847
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 8: They make good friends, and I think people just got

848
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 8: to deal with that, you know what I'm saying. I

849
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 8: actually think it's dope that they found a friendship like

850
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 8: that in an unlikely setting.

851
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 4: I think it's dope.

852
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 8: And I think doctor Simone should just get with the

853
00:41:57,920 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 8: program instead of trying to act like she had a

854
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 8: Just get with the program, keep checking it like you've

855
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 8: been doing. Just get with the program.

856
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 5: That's easy, said thing down though, a girl. Friendships are

857
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 5: so damn delicate, and if you need.

858
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 4: To grow up, they stay sixty.

859
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:17,439
Speaker 8: But yeah, at point, but they become a woman in friendship.

860
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna listen.

861
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 5: I'm fifty three years old, I'm about to be I've

862
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 5: had this happen like recently, Like it doesn't ever go away.

863
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 5: It's just a thing Like men, y'all can have fights,

864
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: y'all can get into fist fights with each other, and

865
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 5: y'all can play one game of basketball or dap each

866
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 5: other up, and y'all get past it. With women, it

867
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 5: could be so small as she looked at me, funny,

868
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 5: I think she's shading me. And if you have a

869
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 5: friend for thirty years and then she just gets super

870
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,439
Speaker 5: close to someone else, a lot of times, you feel

871
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 5: like you're the odd man out. I used to call

872
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 5: it being leap frog, Like if I introduce you to someone,

873
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 5: then y'all end up getting super super close, and I'm

874
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 5: like the odd.

875
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 6: Man out or whatever.

876
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,720
Speaker 5: She's in her feelings about this, like she's not meaning

877
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 5: simone is in her feelings about that.

878
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 6: And it's super hard to it's super hard to come

879
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 6: back from that.

880
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 5: Like I know, it sounds like an immature thing, but

881
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: it's still a thing that I see happen a lot. Right,

882
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 5: It's hard to have a friendship with three people, It

883
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 5: really really is.

884
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: I do you know, you know what?

885
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 7: Can we be honest? Can we all just be honest?

886
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 7: If that man was cracking her back properly and her

887
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 7: her son believe her credit card alone, she'd have a

888
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 7: lot more grace for everybody else. This is to me,

889
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:22,840
Speaker 7: this is not even about the friendships. If she was

890
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 7: happier at home, she wouldn't be so worried about aybody

891
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 7: else's business and their friendships.

892
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 5: No one likes to see someone that they're closed with,

893
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 5: super close with someone else, someone that you look down upon.

894
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 6: That part, so you're like, wait her, So yes, you

895
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:38,839
Speaker 6: know what I mean.

896
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,320
Speaker 11: So it's it's I do want to add this and listen,

897
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 11: this is a on this panel because it's a balanced

898
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 11: view between men and women. I do want to say

899
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 11: this because I'm not a woman, and I'm not speaking

900
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 11: on behalf of women when I say this, I'm speaking

901
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 11: on behalf of somebody who grew up with sisters, who

902
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 11: grew up being everybody's best friend, all the girls, right.

903
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 11: And I grew up, obviously in this industry working on

904
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 11: shows about women. So I would like to mention what

905
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 11: I do see on the outside looking in when it

906
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 11: comes to female relationships.

907
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: And there is a lot of truth to what you

908
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 3: guys are saying when it comes to.

909
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 2: Female friendships.

910
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 3: Whether you're ten, one hundred is very delicate because as

911
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 3: much as let's be real here, right, We're gonna be

912
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: real tonight. As much as y'all love to say as women, women.

913
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 6: Support women, No, no, that's.

914
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: That's that's okay, okay, okay, okay, that that that's that

915
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 3: that's not the case. I recently watched Oprah Winfrey's interview

916
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 3: with the woman who.

917
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 2: Was caught on the kissing cam at the Coldplay concert.

918
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god, did you watch an interview?

919
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 6: Not all of it, but I've seen enough.

920
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 3: I watched all fifty eight minutes of it, and the

921
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 3: main not the main thing. One of the biggest things

922
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,320
Speaker 3: I extracted from that interview is when she said how

923
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 3: it was women who attacked her the most, and the

924
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: fact that that that not only happened amongst women. She'll

925
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 3: be at the hotel with her daughter and women will

926
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: go up point their fingerfits called her a whore.

927
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: Right.

928
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 3: The man who really lied to her about not being

929
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: separated from his wife, he lied, She said, can you

930
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 3: release a statement? He said no, because I lied to

931
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 3: my wife. We're not mean I lie to you. Me

932
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: and my wife aren't separated. Her husband released a statement

933
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 3: saying we are separating me and this woman. She can

934
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 3: do what she want to do. The gag is her

935
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 3: husband was also at the Coplet concert on the date.

936
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: My point is this, she said, this man got many

937
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: offers for work.

938
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,800
Speaker 2: She hasn't worked since the Coplay concerts.

939
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 3: And she said she was surprised that women were mean

940
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 3: to her. So I said that to say the thing

941
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 3: with female friendships, I do think you guys clocked it.

942
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 2: You know, there is something very there's.

943
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 3: A hierarchy when it comes to Simone and Jackie in Heavenly,

944
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 3: they were the golden girls at some point.

945
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 2: However, if you guys listen carefully.

946
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: Simone does love to throw out their friend of thirty years,

947
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 3: friend of thirty years meeting I've had you for thirty years.

948
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 2: I do think you guys are on just something. You say,

949
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: this woman who comes across a little bit.

950
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: Uncouth, unsavory has now been somebody who you're more friends with,

951
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: to the point where on Watch What Happens Live, you

952
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,720
Speaker 3: did not defend me in terms of saying Heavenly was wrong.

953
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 3: And I do want you guys to really just go

954
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: in on the fact that when it comes to female relationships,

955
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,440
Speaker 3: why is this so sensitive and why is it that

956
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 3: women are in competition with other.

957
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 7: Women very simply. I just want to make sure the

958
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 7: word women is being panned out. Insecure women are have

959
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 7: delicate relationships. Women who are not secure are always going

960
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 7: to be delicate to deal with because misogyny, society, patriarchy, whatever,

961
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 7: has already told them that there's not enough space for

962
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 7: all of us and there has to be a hierarchy.

963
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 7: So women who are uninvolved, women who are insecure, women

964
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 7: who are emotionally delicate are always going to be combative

965
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 7: in that way. In the same way, if you see

966
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 7: two black people at Harvard, they might have some beef

967
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 7: as well because they're dealing from the same lack of insecurity.

968
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 7: For me and I can only speak for me, and

969
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 7: I feel like that's the one Dustin talks about his

970
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 7: healthy queer relationships and we're like, oh, that's the thing. Okay,

971
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say this right now. I don't have any

972
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 7: of this in my female friendships because I am a

973
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,959
Speaker 7: secure lone wolf who tends to befriend other secure lone

974
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 7: wolves who are independent thinkers. Are female friendships mimic more

975
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 7: which y'all think are masculine friendships, because the kind of

976
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 7: woman who can be my friend has to be somebody

977
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 7: who knows Blue's not gonna buy her tongue, and she

978
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 7: thinks you want some bullshits, She's gonna tell you. We

979
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 7: used to seeing that with men. But I'm a woman

980
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,480
Speaker 7: who does it, and I only have friends with other

981
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 7: women who do that. And so when you're dealing with

982
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 7: secure women, to Claudia's point, the reason why Claudia can

983
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 7: be a girl's girls because Claudia has her own shit

984
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 7: going on. Claudia has already been through the LIGs. She's

985
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,239
Speaker 7: already learned how to have grace for herself so she

986
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 7: can give grace to others. She's already learned how to

987
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 7: make money in her own so she's not hating on

988
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 7: anybody else. When you meet securely attached women, the relationships

989
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 7: actually aren't delicate. We're talking about insecure women. Of course,

990
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 7: insecure women have insecure relationships. I think that's gender neutral, right,

991
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 7: But because we socialize it, because we socialize it to

992
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 7: be a woman thing, and unlike men, women actually do

993
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 7: have to worry about the lack because there really is

994
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 7: only three spots. Sometimes we didn't make that up. That's

995
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 7: actually patriarchy, right. We have less grace to give because

996
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 7: we're lower on the food chain, And so my thing is,

997
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 7: rather than being worried about how women's friendships are, what

998
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 7: kind of women do you align with? If you are

999
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 7: hating as bitch who has problems at home, and you

1000
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 7: hate your home life and your entire identity is me

1001
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 7: and you being mean girls, so superior to others. Of

1002
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 7: course you're gonna fit away when I humanize the riff

1003
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 7: raft that you thought was beneath us, right, because you

1004
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 7: were already like that before the riff rash showed up.

1005
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 7: But if you like yourself, then it's easier for us

1006
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 7: to bring other people into the frame. And so, yes,

1007
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 7: insecure women, I cannot be friends with women who are insecure.

1008
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 7: But if you are a woman who really likes themselves,

1009
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 7: which is probably why I have so many aries female friends,

1010
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,480
Speaker 7: women who like themselves don't have these problems, respectfully, And

1011
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 7: you're telling yourselves if your female friendships are delicate, your

1012
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 7: female friends are delicate, and that's the real issue.

1013
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: Claudia.

1014
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm thinking about my friend Zuka right now. When

1015
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 6: I lose a.

1016
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 5: Friend, my non ho friend Annie, I don't lose a

1017
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:50,520
Speaker 5: lot of female friends, and when I do, it's a

1018
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 5: big deal for me. I'm like, damn, how is I wrong?

1019
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 5: Because I love going out with like a bo a

1020
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 5: mask peup of women. Everyone's holding their own knowns, tripping

1021
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 5: you're getting only guys are talking to year you are.

1022
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: They're all that nonsense. There's none of that. Everyone had,

1023
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 5: everyone got it going on, And yeah, I don't really

1024
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 5: have these kind of problems.

1025
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 6: It's usually like a new friend. Yeah, I I agree

1026
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 6: with a lot of stuff that Blue set about that.

1027
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,760
Speaker 5: Uh, But a lot of times they're just not happy

1028
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 5: at the crib or they live in a fake life.

1029
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 5: I had a friend that had false security, right, and

1030
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 5: someone said her name in the chat. They said, I

1031
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,240
Speaker 5: see you don't hang with that girl that was meting

1032
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:28,319
Speaker 5: with that guy's husband. I mean that girl's husband. Yes,

1033
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 5: I don't hang with that girl anymore. I don't hang

1034
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: with the mistress because I clocked I found ou who

1035
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 5: she really was. I don't hang with her anymore. You're right,

1036
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 5: y'all clocked it because she was she had Oh yeah,

1037
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: she had fake confidence.

1038
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: Right.

1039
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 5: You have a friend that's like they have the look,

1040
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 5: they have the bags, they have the things, and they

1041
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: you think they have confidence, but they really are not

1042
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 5: happy because at the end of the day, they're fucking

1043
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 5: some old guy. They can't stand right, and so to

1044
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 5: fund said fake lifestyle, and those were the biggest haters

1045
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 5: amongst the group, them fake secure women. And those were

1046
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 5: the same ones that have women's comment brunches and be like, oh,

1047
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 5: it's women's empowerment brunch, and you be the biggest haters

1048
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 5: because it's like a fake it's that fake confidence.

1049
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 6: And yeah, I don't hang with those girls anymore.

1050
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: All right, final word from Dustin.

1051
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, Keep your circle small, keep

1052
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 8: them snake ass motherfuckers around from you, you know what

1053
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 8: I'm saying, And watch your back. You know me personally,

1054
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 8: I like peace. I like positive people around me. Were

1055
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 8: gonna laugh and have a good time. But I don't

1056
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 8: be around no.

1057
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 4: Fucked up ass people that I gotta watch my back around,

1058
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.

1059
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 8: So like I've been, I'm grateful to hear stories about

1060
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 8: I'm grateful to not have experienced some of the things

1061
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 8: that I hear people experience in friendship.

1062
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1063
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 8: I cherish my friendships and I ride about mine and

1064
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 8: I haven't had no snakes like that around me. Thank god.

1065
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,240
Speaker 8: You know, I stay woke and keep my head on swivel.

1066
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 8: But I'm around good people. So I like all my

1067
00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 8: friends winning. I like being around a bunch of winners,

1068
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 8: you know what I'm saying. I like it to be

1069
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 8: more than one person. Like we all are successful in

1070
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 8: our own right. We're all close to each other in

1071
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 8: our own ways. It's cool for us to have individual

1072
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 8: relationships amongst the group. I'm with all that, So I

1073
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,960
Speaker 8: don't know, it's just, you know, when it comes to friendship,

1074
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:18,919
Speaker 8: you know, taking it off because I definitely can't speak

1075
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 8: to women's friendships, but just speaking of friendship, like, that's

1076
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 8: how I like to row.

1077
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 3: So Rain Johns let us know in the comments. And

1078
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 3: again the full a Maritime Medicine recaps on my Patreon

1079
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 3: Claudia Dusted Blue. I love you guys some much beat

1080
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: up for this and I'll see you guys on the

1081
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:36,359
Speaker 3: next one.

1082
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 4: Bye y'all,