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Speaker 2: because the story already broke. After I recorded the podcast,

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Speaker 2: started kind of googling just to remember exactly what the

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Speaker 2: So I want to go over a little bit of that.

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Speaker 2: It's not even over yet. It's crazy what the Bears

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Speaker 2: right now strictly based on the trade. Some things that

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Speaker 2: Dumber totally redeemed himself because I think there's a chance

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Speaker 2: from my understanding, that transaction netted them well over half

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Speaker 2: which Ryan Pohle said we valued as a first round pick,

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Speaker 2: trying to act like he's got no shot, but if

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Speaker 2: is what they netted from that trade when they traded

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Speaker 2: they got a fourth round pick, which they used this year.

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Speaker 2: They drafted Darnell Wright, who started seventeen games for them

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Speaker 2: and got Tyreek Stevenson, who started sixteen games for them,

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Speaker 2: There is not a team in the history of football NFL, AFL, UFL, XFL, USFLL,

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Speaker 2: But if they get their starting punter, their starting quarterback,

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Speaker 2: But we're not done yet. We're not done. The trade

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Speaker 2: if we say, where are the Panthers this season most

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Speaker 2: So it's a great benefit. Because now, granted they use

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Speaker 2: their second round pick to get Brian Burns pick thirty nine,

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Speaker 2: but they had another second round pick. I have to

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Speaker 4: I was just excited to come back. Whoever was going

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Speaker 4: to be in the QB room was going to be

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Speaker 4: in the QB room. I was nothing was going to

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Speaker 4: change on my end though, But yeah, I mean, like

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Speaker 4: you said, it feels good to know that they have

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Speaker 4: some you know that they have confidence in me, and

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Speaker 4: that you know that they like I was able to

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Speaker 4: do last year and hopefully they're being able to see

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Speaker 4: the strides that I've made in the off season and

437
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Speaker 4: going into year.

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Speaker 2: Two was the hardest brinding your face off thing that

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Speaker 2: you did.

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Speaker 4: June nineteenth, shout out to my one of my best friends,

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Speaker 4: Derek Gallagher one mile Burbie broad jump, hour and seven minutes.

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Speaker 4: Let's go a mile Burbie broad jump. Burbie broad jump

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Speaker 4: one mile. I don't know. I ate a lot after that.

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Speaker 4: After that, I went to Betty's shout out to Sheppardsound,

445
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Speaker 4: West Virginia, to Betty's restaurant. I think I just got

446
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Speaker 4: six eggs and bacon with some toasts. I might not

447
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Speaker 4: be getting better necessarily at football when I'm doing a

448
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Speaker 4: workout like that. However, just the mental edge that it

449
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Speaker 4: gives me finding out, you know, what I can endure

450
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Speaker 4: versus what the next man can endure in a sense,

451
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Speaker 4: gives me a little mental edge. When I show up

452
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Speaker 4: to things like this and people start complaining about our schedule,

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Speaker 4: I can kind of have somewhere in the back of

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Speaker 4: my head that I've done things far worse than this

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Speaker 4: that I can handless really kind of anything that's thrown

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Speaker 4: at me and be able to just keep the main

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Speaker 4: thing the main thing, let it flow off the shoulders,

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Speaker 4: and just kind of, you know, react to what happens next.

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Speaker 2: One thing I think I'm going to attempt to do

460
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Speaker 2: because I get asked a like what do you do?

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Speaker 2: And I used to try to like give a long spiel,

462
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Speaker 2: like you know, I used to work in radio. Now

463
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Speaker 2: I'm in the podcast business, and they're like, what would

464
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: you sell? I'm like, now I host podcasts, and over

465
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,160
Speaker 2: the last couple of years, you just get more secure.

466
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 2: You're like, I'm a podcast, right. I just say that.

467
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Speaker 2: I think when someone asked me what I do for

468
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Speaker 2: a living, I'm just gonna say, grind my face off.

469
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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine doing a mile of Burpie Rod jumps.

470
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Speaker 2: He said he did it in an hour. And there's

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Speaker 2: a guy who's in the NFL. I wonder if you

472
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Speaker 2: took just a random guy like me, you know, mid

473
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Speaker 2: late thirties, decent goes to gym, how long I could

474
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Speaker 2: it would take me to accomplish that? How many times

475
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Speaker 2: I would throw up? If I would even be able

476
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Speaker 2: to move? If it took an NFL athlete of Burpie

477
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Speaker 2: Ron jobs an hour, do you think what would be

478
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Speaker 2: the over under for just a random non professional athlete

479
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Speaker 2: who just goes to the gym in decent shape to

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Speaker 2: accomplish that hour and a half two? I can't even

481
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Speaker 2: fathom the pain you would feel in your legs, Your

482
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Speaker 2: heart might explode, you wouldn't be able to breathe. And

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Speaker 2: like you said, does it help me a football? Like?

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Speaker 2: Not directly, it doesn't help me read a defense or

485
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Speaker 2: make a better throw, but mentally and I totally agree,

486
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Speaker 2: that feels like something that Seal Team six would do,

487
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Speaker 2: or you would have to do for Seal Team six

488
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Speaker 2: to even give you a shot to be on the squad.

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Speaker 2: Where would you even think about that? Where would someone

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Speaker 2: come up? We're gonna go a mile burpie broad jumps,

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Speaker 2: and obviously a burpie is just down and up essentially,

492
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Speaker 2: and uh, I think you kind of had a push

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Speaker 2: up or not. But in the broad jump, I'm speechless,

494
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Speaker 2: I really am. I think that's that's one of the

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Speaker 2: greatest achievements of non like actual sports, like not like

496
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Speaker 2: a golfer or tennis or football, rugby or whatever, like

497
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Speaker 2: a real sport, just a CrossFit type workout I've ever

498
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Speaker 2: heard of. I truly believe that that is a remarkable accomplishment.

499
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Speaker 2: Other than that, we're gonna have Jake Rosenberg, who used

500
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Speaker 2: to be one of Howie's right hand men, on the

501
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Speaker 2: pod tomorrow. We're just gonna we're gonna call it contracts

502
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Speaker 2: for Dummies, because I, like most of you, get really

503
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 2: confused with dead money cap bonuses. Like how it all works.

504
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: It's very simple. In baseball and basketball, it's like, hey,

505
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Speaker 2: we just sign Hi two hundred million dollars. He gets

506
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Speaker 2: forty million dollars a year. We signed him to do

507
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Speaker 2: a three year, one hundred million dollars deal. In baseball,

508
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Speaker 2: he can opt out it for two years. This year

509
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Speaker 2: he makes twenty five, Next year he makes thirty five.

510
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Speaker 2: And like I follow that last year he makes thirty

511
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Speaker 2: if he opts in football, you just never truly know

512
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Speaker 2: what's going on. So we will discuss that. And other

513
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Speaker 2: than that, I did see something crazy yesterday on Instagram.

514
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Speaker 2: You know sometimes you're scrolling Instagram. It's crazy that their algorithms,

515
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Speaker 2: how they work. Right. I'll get something with a dog,

516
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Speaker 2: it'll make me laugh or cry. Then I'll get some

517
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Speaker 2: highlight package from you know, nineteen ninety six of Barry Sanders,

518
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Speaker 2: which I'll just be glued to for like four minutes.

519
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Speaker 2: And then I'll get like Joe Rogan discussing drumsticks the

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Speaker 2: ice cream, and I had never seen this, and it

521
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Speaker 2: really made me question myself, is that someone took one

522
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Speaker 2: of those drumsticks, which I would say, over under drumsticks

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Speaker 2: I've had in my life, probably closer to one hundred

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Speaker 2: than it is fifty. They left it out all night, right,

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Speaker 2: if you leave ice cream, I'm mad enough to admit,

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Speaker 2: as you know, a struggling, skinny, fat guy. I've ordered

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Speaker 2: ice cream on door Dash before. I don't want to

528
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Speaker 2: go to cold Stone or Basket Robbins or whatever. And

529
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Speaker 2: you almost have to do the express to even give

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Speaker 2: yourself a chance is the ultimate lazy move to hope

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Speaker 2: it's not too melted and you don't have to put

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Speaker 2: it into the freezer for extra ten to fifteen minutes

533
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Speaker 2: because it kind of melted. But ice cream melts means

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Speaker 2: that's what happens. But these people, or this guy ran

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Speaker 2: an experiment. He left a drumstick out all night. Actually

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Speaker 2: it was twenty four hours, and you know how the

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Speaker 2: nuts are on the chocolate on top of the cone,

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Speaker 2: and he cut it and the ice cream hadn't melted.

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Speaker 2: And I guess on the drumstick box, to consider something

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Speaker 2: ice cream, it has to have like ten percent of

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Speaker 2: milk fat or whatever. And they don't even consider an

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Speaker 2: ice cream. And I started thinking to myself, Holy moly,

543
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Speaker 2: how bad all the drumsticks I've eaten. I mean, my

544
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: parents used to get them for us when we were kids.

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Speaker 2: You go to sleepovers, someone have like two boxes of drumsticks,

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Speaker 2: you like three your buddies, and you just you'd cash

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Speaker 2: both boxes by nine o'clock at night. Turns out I was,

548
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Speaker 2: I was telling Maria. Then it really got me thinking,

549
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: remember those anyone that is kind of similar to my age,

550
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Speaker 2: the lunch a bulls, which are basically Charcouteri for little kids.

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Speaker 2: But then they also created the pizza one. You know,

552
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Speaker 2: the pizza that they give you like three four little pizzas.

553
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Speaker 2: They give you some pepperoni, some cheese, and some sauce.

554
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Speaker 2: I mean, I can't even imagine what was in those things.

555
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Speaker 2: And I used to house those in like sixth seventh

556
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Speaker 2: grade all the time. But keep your head on a

557
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Speaker 2: swivel when you're eating. Man. Okay, let's dive into a

558
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Speaker 2: little thing that we like to call the middle cough

559
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Speaker 2: mail bag at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is the

560
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Speaker 2: Instagram handle fire in those dms. Get your question answered

561
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: here on the show, really really easier to do. Start

562
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Speaker 2: with Chris, John, Stick to your gut and don't do

563
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Speaker 2: the big bet on the Chargers to make the playoffs

564
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Speaker 2: at plus one ten or whatever it is. You will

565
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Speaker 2: regret it if it doesn't hit. If Herbert gets injured,

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Speaker 2: the bet is dead. If you're gonna go to do

567
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Speaker 2: some future bets, it has to be high odds. I

568
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: won the Bucks plus eight point fifty to win the

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Speaker 2: division last year, and they are plus three twenty five

570
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Speaker 2: this year. Obviously, the Falcons can win it, but the

571
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Speaker 2: real odds are much better than the implied odds of

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Speaker 2: them winning it. If you want lower odds, the Bills

573
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Speaker 2: are plus one sixty five to win the division, a

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Speaker 2: much better bet than the Chargers. Well, the Chargers. Part

575
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Speaker 2: of it is my admiration for old Jim Harbaugh. I

576
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Speaker 2: loved the Bills, and I looked before I read that question.

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Speaker 2: Two bets that I like a lot are over ten

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Speaker 2: and a half wins for the Bills plus one point thirty.

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Speaker 2: So if you bet five grand, you'd win eleven to

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Speaker 2: five for them to win the division. On DraftKings Promo

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Speaker 2: co John, it's actually plus one point eighty. So if

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Speaker 2: I bet five thousand dollars on them to win the

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Speaker 2: AFC East, which they have done a lot, I think

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Speaker 2: four straight years. I think the Patriots in twenty eighteen

585
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Speaker 2: when they played the Chiefs had won the division ten

586
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Speaker 2: straight years. So we've seen in this division one team

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Speaker 2: with the best quarterback dominate it plus one eighty. If

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Speaker 2: I bet five thousand dollars on that, it would pay

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Speaker 2: fourteen k You're right, I mean, there are some risk

590
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Speaker 2: involved with Jim Harbaugh in the sense of the roster,

591
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Speaker 2: but I just believe in what I've seen out of

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Speaker 2: the guy. But you could argue the Bills a little

593
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Speaker 2: bit of a safer bet. I want to do larger

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Speaker 2: bets on something I feel good about. Chargers definitely has

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Speaker 2: some risk in it. I think the Bills a lot

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Speaker 2: lower risk. But when you use the example of if

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Speaker 2: Herbert goes down, well, I can say the same thing

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Speaker 2: for Josh Allen. You could say the same thing if

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Speaker 2: you took the Ravens to win the division and Lamar

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Speaker 2: goes down obviously last year with the Bengals, So you

601
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Speaker 2: just got to keep your fingers crossed with a star quarterback.

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Speaker 2: You know, if Patrick Mahomes went down, are the Chiefs

603
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Speaker 2: winning that division? I don't think they would. With Carson

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Speaker 2: Wentz question for the mailbag, I agree with you about

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Speaker 2: Tua not deserving to be paid like the rest of

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Speaker 2: the top quarterbacks in the league. He definitely is not

607
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Speaker 2: on that level. However, you said that if Tua was

608
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Speaker 2: to hit the open market, there wouldn't be teams bitting

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Speaker 2: against them. Maybe not a lot of teams, but definitely

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Speaker 2: a few. I personally think teams like Seattle would be

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Speaker 2: a great spot for Tua. It would get him out

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Speaker 2: of the AFC and back to the West Coast. He

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Speaker 2: would have to go to Snowy. He wouldn't have to

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Speaker 2: go to snowy road playoff games as often. And I

615
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: think the cast of characters that Seattle has on offense,

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Speaker 2: it would be exciting. We've seen two would be able

617
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Speaker 2: to get the ball to playmakers, something I think Gino

618
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Speaker 2: can lack. You've said that Dak can get hot and

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Speaker 2: go on a run and the Cowboys could have a

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Speaker 2: chance at the Super Bowl. Why couldn't Tua. Well, I

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Speaker 2: think Dak's is a better player. I've seen Dak in

622
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Speaker 2: high leverage games against good teams in November and December

623
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Speaker 2: and play well. I saw him play awesome outside against

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Speaker 2: the Eagles late in the season last year. We have

625
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 2: seen Dak excel late in the season. Now he's older.

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Speaker 2: I just think Dak, just by every metric, is just better.

627
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Speaker 2: He's bigger, better arm. Not that Dak has a great arm.

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Speaker 2: You could argue they're similar arms. He's definitely more mobile.

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Speaker 2: I just think he's a better player now. I never

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Speaker 2: said that no one would want him. My point is,

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Speaker 2: who's bitting against them at that price? Right? If you

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Speaker 2: go to CarMax right now, and you find I don't

633
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 2: know two people want the same car. Well, if one

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Speaker 2: guy's willing to pay seventy grand and the other guys

635
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Speaker 2: be like, hey, I'll give you a fifty grand. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's a big difference, right, that's a large percentage from

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Speaker 2: seventy to fifty. That's my point is like our teams,

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Speaker 2: teams would be lined up, Seattle would give him one

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty or seventy million dollars guaranteed. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: you're telling me. John Schneider, who pounded the table, think

641
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: of the quarterbacks John Schneider likes. I actually disagree with

642
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: that one. He loved Russell Wilson. Well, Russell Wilson had

643
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: a big arm and it was really mobile. He wanted

644
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 2: a trade with the Browns. Remember when he offered Russell

645
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: Wilson and Russell refused because he wanted Josh Allen. John

646
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 2: Schneider had an affinity for Drew Locke in the trade.

647
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: Why Drew Lock's got a big arm. He's not the

648
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: caliber of players those other guys, But look at the

649
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: type Geno Smith has a big arm. I don't think

650
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,759
Speaker 2: two was John Schneider's type player at all. And the

651
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: other thing is Mike McDonald being a defensive guy, would

652
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: he go does to a scare me if I'm game

653
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: playing against because that's how he would look at it

654
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: in the evaluation. So again not saying no team would

655
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: be interested in him. He's a starting quarterback in the

656
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 2: NFL and there's value there, but Seattle, I would not

657
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 2: have them near the top. I hope you're doing well.

658
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for providing us with content on a regular basis.

659
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 2: Wanted to get your opinion regarding who you think the

660
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,879
Speaker 2: favorite for the awards next year, specifically Coach of the Year.

661
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: Well who won it last year, Stefanski. Coach of the

662
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: Year can be a little bit of a challenge because

663
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: it's either a team that you think is gonna suck

664
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 2: that then is good day Ball a couple of years ago,

665
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,960
Speaker 2: or a team like the Browns who made the playoffs

666
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco. So to me, you can never guess

667
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 2: in that scenario when something weird happens and the team

668
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 2: maintains being good, like if Josh Allen missed two months

669
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 2: and the Bills still won eleven games, McDermott would get it,

670
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 2: but you can't foresee that gambling before the season. So

671
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 2: I would argue your best bet would be to pick

672
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: a team who no one thinks gonna be that good,

673
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 2: like the Saints. What if the Saints won twelve games

674
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: this year. I'm not saying they will, I'm just giving

675
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 2: a hypothetical, like Dennis Allen have a pretty good chance,

676
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,040
Speaker 2: or if the Arizona Cardinals won ten. I think you

677
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: have to look at a team that people don't think

678
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: is gonna be in the playoff mix or be in

679
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and go, what if this team's in the playoffs?

680
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year, MVP, Rookie of the Year,

681
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 2: comeback Player of the year. I would say player, comeback

682
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: player of the year. If Rogers is solid, he's gonna

683
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,759
Speaker 2: get it tearing his achilles Like to me, it's got

684
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: him written all over it, even more than Joe Burrow,

685
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 2: because Rogers missed the entire I mean, played three or

686
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: four or five snaps whatever it was the other ones.

687
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: I mean it's the MVP. Your best bet is typically

688
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 2: a quarterback, right, so mahomes Lamar or Josh Allen probably

689
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: the safest bets. Maybe Jalen Hurts. I mean they're pretty

690
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: loaded on offense. If he were to throw thirty five

691
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: touchdowns or account for forty, maybe throw thirty run for

692
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: another ten in order. I think Dave Canalis, I don't

693
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 2: think the Panthers are gonna win enough games for him

694
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 2: to get the award. For Canalis to get it, I

695
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 2: think they would have to win probably. I think it's

696
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: hard for a coach. I'd have to look at the

697
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 2: recent winners. But if you went eight to nine, which

698
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: would be an unreal season for the Panthers, I don't

699
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: think you can win it at eight and nine, even

700
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 2: though he would be worthy of it. But I think

701
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 2: they're more likely to win like six games Justin Jefferson

702
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 2: Player of the Year, Herbert MVP, Knicks Rookie of the Year,

703
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: don't hate it. I think Caleb has a pretty good

704
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 2: chance as well, and Darnold is a sleeper. I think

705
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very, very difficult for Rogers not to

706
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: win it if he plays seventeen games. But I like

707
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 2: where your heads up. Out of the twenty twenty four

708
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: quarterback first round picks, which one do you think, if any,

709
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:09,560
Speaker 2: will be bus which one do you think will be stars? Well,

710
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 2: I think The easy way to go is it's gonna

711
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: be hard for Caleb to not be good, right. He

712
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 2: is very talented and they have a lot of offensive weapons.

713
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: I would say when you look at Jayden Daniels, you

714
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 2: go a little I mean not. He was a one

715
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 2: year wonder. He had Malikue Neighbors, who I mean might

716
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 2: be a star in the NFL. His other wide receiver

717
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,880
Speaker 2: was drafted in the early twenties right to the Jags.

718
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 2: So he had two guys go in the top twenty

719
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 2: five picks, one guy go in the top six who

720
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: you know easily could have been the fourth pick. His

721
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 2: defensive coach as a head coach, so he's very reliant

722
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: on his offensive coordinator. In the offensive coordinator's Cliff Kingsbury.

723
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: So you just go, I think could get weird Drake May.

724
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: I think there are gonna be some growing pains this

725
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 2: year in Washington, just natural transition of kind of starting over. Obviously,

726
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 2: Drake May would be an easy guy to pick to

727
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 2: just fail the organization. Defensive head coach who's only been

728
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: coaching for three or four years, not much talent on

729
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 2: the roster. The offensive line could be awful like that

730
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: could just be a very very rough couple of years.

731
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: And for every Alex Smith who can be really shitty,

732
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: shitty shitty and then all of a sudden resurrected his career,

733
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: most guys get just wiped out and just turn into

734
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 2: a backup Pennix. I mean, it's just a bizarre situation, right,

735
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 2: how long does he sit? When does he actually play?

736
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 2: Does he end up starting for the Falcons or is

737
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: he on another team one day? Who knows? Obviously Bo

738
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: Nick's having Sean Payton is a huge huge advantage, and

739
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy having Kevin O'Connell's a huge huge advantage. Beside,

740
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: like the the ultra talented guys where you just go,

741
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 2: it's gonna be hard for this guy to fail. And

742
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: like we've already discussed the Bears roster for a team

743
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 2: drafting number one. I mean they didn't even have the

744
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 2: number one pick, but the way they ended up having it,

745
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 2: obviously it's a unique situation because of the trade. I

746
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: think you just try to bet. If you go I

747
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: like the offensive play caller who's also the head coach,

748
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:26,320
Speaker 2: you just bet on that, and you bet against the

749
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 2: defensive coaches. I think if you just followed that formula,

750
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: you'd be right a lot more than you're wrong. Pickleball

751
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: is the CrossFit of sports. I've never played pickleball in

752
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: my life, and I mentioned this on the podcast the

753
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 2: other day. My natural inclination is just to talk a

754
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: little shit. It's just my natural inclination. Clearly, people like it.

755
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: It's an enjoyable activity. I'll say this about CrossFit. I

756
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: had never done CrossFit in my life until I moved

757
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 2: to Arizona and I started going to this place because

758
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 2: a couple buddies had recommended it to me, and I

759
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 2: haven't been in like six months, and they're mad at me.

760
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: I get text like you better be showing up, and

761
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna show up. I think I'm gonna get back

762
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 2: into it during football season because my workout's done by

763
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 2: seven am and I have the rest of the data to,

764
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 2: you know, grind my face off. Crossfits is hard. Like CrossFit,

765
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 2: you could make fun of it, and people that take

766
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 2: it very very seriously on social media. I understand, you know,

767
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 2: the pushback or the sarcastic remarks on the other side.

768
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: Whenever I did it, I felt incredible the rest of

769
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 2: the day, Like it works to me. Pick a Ball

770
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: Fat Guy's tennis. During Hard Knocks, it seemed like Maleik

771
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 2: Neighbors was unhappy being selected by the Giants. If Neighbors

772
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 2: isn't spectacular, do you see day Ball and Joe Shane

773
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: getting fired. I do wonder if he would have reacted

774
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 2: like that with any team selecting him. It didn't feel

775
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 2: like Neighbors was some big jump up and celebrate the

776
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: moment he got the call. But I do agree when

777
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 2: you just watched the video of him getting the call,

778
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 2: he wasn't overjoyed. He wasn't doing cartwheels in the in

779
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: the green room with the other players. I do think

780
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 2: as the night went on, he did the FaceTime with

781
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: the entire group. You see this if you haven't watched

782
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 2: the last episode of Hard Knocks Giants, he definitely looked happier.

783
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 2: I think he'll be fine. I mean he's he's an

784
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 2: excellent prospect. I mean he's an elite player. Like that's

785
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: that's a good pick. The last episode, and I've said this,

786
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: the Hard Knocks was fantastic when it was announced they

787
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 2: were doing it. I'm sure like most people thought, like,

788
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 2: I'm not watching this stupid. I thought that's one of

789
00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 2: the better NFL programming by HBO i've ever seen. I

790
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 2: think their problem is gonna be I've said this over

791
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 2: and over, like, they actually have some solid players on

792
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 2: the roster, and their defense could be pretty good. But

793
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,840
Speaker 2: we saw them with somewhat of a similar situation a

794
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: couple of years ago. They were very, very dependent on Saquon. Now,

795
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: in theory, their old line should be better and you

796
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 2: should be able to manipulate the running back spot. But

797
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: like the this isn't an opinion. This is just based

798
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: on watching the owner. If this team goes six or

799
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: seven wins, even if they show some progress, one, that'll

800
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 2: clearly Daniel Jones won't be good enough, which I think

801
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 2: we already acknowledge. And two, you go, well, did the

802
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 2: Eagles just win eleven games and Saquon had twelve hundred

803
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 2: yards and fifteen touchdowns rushing and catching. It's gonna look

804
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 2: pretty bad. And that's not a fan take, that's not

805
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: a podcaster take. That's literally what the owner said. I

806
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 2: don't think I'll be able to sleep at night with

807
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: one on the Eagles and now the dudes on the Eagles.

808
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: So I think the Giants are gonna be a fascinating story.

809
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 2: Like I said, Dave Ball looks great physically, looks fantastic.

810
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 2: Props to him for losing all the olbis. Looks like

811
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 2: he's lost fifty pounds. Looks fantastic. He's calling the plays too,

812
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: So anytime you do the shift play caller, like they

813
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 2: yanked it away from Kafka, he took it, there's no

814
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 2: one to point the finger at, like you got rid

815
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 2: of Wink. You're calling the plays now. No one's expecting

816
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 2: you to win eleven games. But like I would say,

817
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 2: anything less than eight, people just start questioning what's going

818
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 2: on here. Listen to your recent take on Perty and

819
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 2: his expected big payday next year. I have to disagree

820
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 2: with you a little. I think the Niners can drive

821
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: a hard bargain with him. While Perty is a great player,

822
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: he is not elite. How many NFL teams would pay

823
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: top dollar for Perty, which would greatly impact their salary

824
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: cap when they do not have an offensive system like

825
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,839
Speaker 2: San Francisco. Purty is great because of the tools at

826
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,920
Speaker 2: his disposal. He would be foolish to think he can

827
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 2: be the highest paid player. I never say he's gonna

828
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 2: be the highest paid player. I say he's gonna get

829
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 2: a lot of money. That might look like Tua Jordan Love,

830
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: But if you're sitting in party shoes, you go wait,

831
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm throwing thirty touchdowns a year. I'm helping us win

832
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 2: playoff games. Tua can't dream of winning a playoff game.

833
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: How am I not gonna get more than him? Because

834
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 2: we just had this argument with Tua, like who they

835
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: been against? Well, these NFL teams say is Pam and

836
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 2: the difference is I think the Dolphins were kind of stuck.

837
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan loves brock Purty, loves brock Purty. Do I

838
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 2: think he should get Joe Burrow money? Of course not.

839
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 2: But he's gonna end up getting a lot. It's just

840
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: a fact. Now, how they build that, how they structure it.

841
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 2: I'm no cap guru, but he's not getting the Daniel

842
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 2: Jones contract and he doesn't deserve it. Like he's better

843
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 2: than all, He's better than Tua, he's better than too.

844
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 2: He just out played Jordan Love in the second half

845
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 2: of a playoff game. That who knows what if the

846
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,799
Speaker 2: Packers win that thing and they're in the They're in

847
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: the fucking super Bowl. So like he's got a lot

848
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 2: going for him in the argument of like, listen, I

849
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 2: actually think he's gonna be pretty team friendly because of Kyle,

850
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 2: a little like a way lesser version of how Mahomes

851
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: worked his contract. But he's gonna get a lot of

852
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 2: money and because of what he produces for them, he

853
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 2: deserves it, like they gave Jimmy Garoppolo a lot of

854
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 2: money once upon a time and until Jimmy completely lost

855
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 2: his confidence. You watched the Receiver show. I was watching

856
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 2: it last night. You don't want to watch it late

857
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 2: at night because it's hard to turn off and DeVante

858
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 2: is like flipping flipping out and pissed off. Don't totally

859
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 2: blame him though, Like I do understand the comment it's

860
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 2: not about winning or losing, it's about greatness. Like that

861
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: that one had to rub some people the wrong way internally.

862
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 2: Clearly they had like a knockdown, drag out meeting with

863
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: the team. I'm a DeVante guy, but Jimmy Garoppolo, the

864
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: version we see now is like a shot fighter if golf,

865
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 2: this would be the Yips. Anyone that's watched the Simone

866
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: Biles Netflix documentary, it be the twisties in gymnastics. I'd

867
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 2: never heard of twisties. I guess that's when you get

868
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 2: a metal block. And like when she bowed out of

869
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 2: the Olympics a couple of years ago, she just like

870
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,280
Speaker 2: her mind and her body weren't on the same page,

871
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 2: which has happened to any human in any sport. You

872
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 2: lose your confidence. Happens to me and golf all the time.

873
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,839
Speaker 2: Differences of in golf like Okay, I'm just gonna hit

874
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: this ball out of bounds whatever. In gymnastics, if you

875
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: get the twisties, like you could land on your head

876
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: and break your neck and die. I watched that, I

877
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:50,320
Speaker 2: was like, damn, this is pretty crazy. Twisties are no yips.

878
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: You're just like I'm just not gonna score well twisties.

879
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: It's like I could get seriously injured and it's crazy.

880
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: But Jimmy definitely has the version gymnastics twisties because it

881
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 2: was watching the slow motion highlights. I mean, I watched

882
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 2: some of those games live last year, Like this is

883
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 2: a joke. What is the balls weren't even remotely close.

884
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: Guys wide open airmailing them. It was bad. This from

885
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 2: Vince Love the Top five Stadium Vibes. I'm a Bears fan,

886
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: but I have to say Lamba is incredible. Also, four

887
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: of the five are in the Midwest. No coastal elites

888
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 2: I could have. I mean, Philly when they're good's pretty awesome. Obviously,

889
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 2: New England for twenty years was pretty special. A lot

890
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: of people firing in. You clearly haven't been to ford Field. Well,

891
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: ford Field was kind of irrelevant for thirty years. You

892
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 2: guys are on a heater now. I think that's pretty high.

893
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if you would consider Detroit coastal elitists,

894
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 2: but New York definitely not So Fi, definitely not San Francisco,

895
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: definitely not Seattle has a claim when they're good. I

896
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 2: really think it has to do with the area and

897
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 2: more to do with the venue. One thing they all

898
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: had in common, or most of them. Minnesota was an

899
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: outlier was the old decrepit stadiums because Candlestick was elite.

900
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: The Coliseum when the Raiders were there, if they were decent,

901
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: was awesome. It has to do with like, there's no

902
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 2: there's nothing else to do. No one wants to eat

903
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: these shitty hot dogs because they're terrible. There's the concourse,

904
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: you can't even move. It's all about football, and there's

905
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: something special about that. The Bills have that, the Chiefs

906
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 2: have that Cleveland has that. Lambeau clearly has that. But

907
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: Lamba also, like I said, they really benefit like they

908
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: have been awesome since nineteen ninety three or four, I

909
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: mean thirty plus years, they've been good. Obviously they've had

910
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: bad seasons, but for the most part, for thirty plus years,

911
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 2: people just pick them to make the playoffs. Even use

912
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,120
Speaker 2: the Chiefs' example. Before Andy got there, they were a disaster.

913
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,360
Speaker 2: When Andy got the job, they had the number one

914
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: overall pick. Do you think Seattle can build a future

915
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: with Sam Howell or drafting the future as a better move?

916
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: I think I saw on the old X channel, as

917
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: my mother calls it, that he's been all over the

918
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: map in training camp. So I again, that's just a

919
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: tweet that I saw that he's been very inaccurate. I

920
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 2: would say probably not, I would be stunned, but hell,

921
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 2: crazier things have happened. I'm not saying he's gonna be this,

922
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: but Kurt Warner is bagging groceries and now he's in

923
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame with a couple MVPs in a

924
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So you just you just never know. I

925
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: would doubt it, though I would I would doubt it

926
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: working out. I'm a longtime Steelers fan, and I'm tired

927
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: of winning nine to ten games every single season. But

928
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 2: our co such toughness of the organization and style of

929
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: our plays, do not let us have a bad year

930
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 2: to get a new quarterback. I also think Russ and

931
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,360
Speaker 2: fields are not the answer. If you were the GM

932
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 2: of the Steelers, what would you do? Side note? Why

933
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 2: do you think big Ben is not mentioned with the greats?

934
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: He had two Super Bowls and it was a gunslinger

935
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: in his prime. I think the media doesn't really like him,

936
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 2: you know. I think that's part of it. I think

937
00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:28,000
Speaker 2: the media doesn't like him. I think I think that's

938
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,880
Speaker 2: a huge reason. I think he's just not well liked.

939
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 2: But big Ben in his prime was as good as

940
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: a guy like. He had like a three or four

941
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 2: year stretch in his mid to late twenties, maybe even

942
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 2: early thirties where it was like this is this elite, Yes,

943
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 2: this guy can go toe to toe with anybody. I

944
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: don't think there's much you can do right now if

945
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 2: you're the GM. I think you just let this season

946
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: play out and if you win eight games, Let's say

947
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 2: I think you would have to entertain, like, is this

948
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 2: the year trade a couple first round picks and move

949
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 2: up and draft a quarterback because I mean, both those

950
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 2: guys contracts are over, so Russell Wilson and Justin Fields,

951
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: which is good if it goes bad, they're not in

952
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 2: a contract. I don't know, there's nothing you can do today.

953
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,640
Speaker 2: I think one thing you do this offseason, and I

954
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:23,480
Speaker 2: know John Schneider did this a couple of years ago,

955
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: is you do the full court press on evaluating the quarterbacks,

956
00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 2: your meetings and discussions with your scouts in Latrobe, because

957
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 2: they're all there for the first couple weeks. Is every

958
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:43,040
Speaker 2: single scout on our college scout sees every quarterback that

959
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 2: we have drafted in the top one hundred live. You

960
00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 2: have to see a quarterback. You could argue, if you

961
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 2: have a quarterback that is draftable in your area, you

962
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 2: must see them alive. Obviously, you go to practice, you

963
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 2: scout them. You have to go to a game live.

964
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 2: And I would have my national scout, my in house

965
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:07,839
Speaker 2: like pro or director of player personnel. After about September

966
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,680
Speaker 2: that we get a gauge of like who the top

967
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: six seven quarterbacks are in this class. He tries to

968
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 2: get out and see all those guys, so I would

969
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: go full court press. It doesn't mean it's going to

970
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: lead to one of those guys, but my effort on

971
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: evaluating this class would be it couldn't be any stronger.

972
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 2: We're putting full court press. Doesn't mean we're not evaluating

973
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 2: all the other players. And when you go to games,

974
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: you know you can cross check other players. But our

975
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 2: effort on these quarterbacks is all in all of our

976
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 2: chips the middle of the table in our evaluation process

977
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: this fall. So when the season ends, whether we're good

978
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: or bad, I mean, like you said, you're never going

979
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 2: to be bad. But whether we win eight nine and

980
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 2: now we finally miss the playoffs for the first time

981
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: and we're drafting seventeenth, maybe this is the year we

982
00:57:56,720 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: go from seventeenth to six and we trade our first

983
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:02,680
Speaker 2: a second and another first and a player or something.

984
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: We get aggressive because we got to be in position

985
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: and we got to feel good about the class. Right.

986
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 2: So by the time the combine everything, we know these

987
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 2: guys so well that that would be my task to

988
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,840
Speaker 2: my crew, and I want constant updates when you go

989
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 2: into these schools, any information you're hearing, like, we're following

990
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 2: these guys, we couldn't fall him any closer. Longtime San

991
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 2: Diego native and Charger fan, do you think the Chargers

992
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 2: can make the playoffs? Also, considering Harbaugh is going to

993
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,160
Speaker 2: be the coach for some years now, how high do

994
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: you think the ceiling is for the Chargers? But last,

995
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: but not least, considering the so called weak wide receiver room,

996
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 2: do you think Brendan Rice could potentially make the team

997
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 2: and become a constant target for Herbert. I think he's

998
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 2: got the potential to be a smaller DK metcalf.

999
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,200
Speaker 1: Uh uh.

1000
00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: One thing DK had or has is elite speed. You know,

1001
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: if it was if you were scouting a baseball player,

1002
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 2: he'd be plus plus plus, Like, it doesn't get any better.

1003
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 2: His top end straight line speed might not be Tyreek Hill,

1004
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: but it's better and basically everybody else and Brendan Rice

1005
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,600
Speaker 2: is not that. Can brand and Rice make your team?

1006
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: I'm waffling now. One of the dm rs in my

1007
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: head a little bit, and I was. I was on

1008
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 2: Gottlieb Show yesterday and he's a Charger guy, and he

1009
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 2: thought I was a little crazy. Their back end of

1010
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 2: their corners a little bit of a question mark linebacking group,

1011
00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 2: not great. Their d linemen have a long history of

1012
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 2: getting injured. The wide receiver corps gives me less anxiety

1013
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 2: because I've seen hardball be very successful with a good

1014
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 2: offensive line, a good quarterback and run the ball. And

1015
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 2: when you can do that, average wide receivers get open. Defensively,

1016
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 2: how good are they gonna be? And I always just

1017
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 2: lean back. His defenses are always good. They're always good.

1018
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 2: He hires Mentor, who came with him from Michigan, who

1019
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: was in Baltimore, who was like basically Mike McDonald. Mike

1020
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: McDonald also did the same thing Mentor did, went to Jim,

1021
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: came back to John. This guy did the same thing,

1022
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 2: went to John, went to Jim. Now stay with Jim.

1023
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:28,960
Speaker 2: So he like cross pollinates all these guys. Greg Roman

1024
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 2: starts with Jim, goes to John, back with Jim. Like,

1025
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 2: all these coaches have been successful. So I wouldn't bet

1026
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 2: my life's savings on it. But like I said, I

1027
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 2: don't think it's a bad bet picking the charges to

1028
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 2: make the playoffs. Why can't they be the Pittsburgh Steelers

1029
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four nine to ten wins be the

1030
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 2: seventh seed. I'm not saying they're gonna win thirteen games here,

1031
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: but could they go nine and eight or ten and

1032
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 2: seven and be the seventh seed. I think that is

1033
01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 2: a very very real possibility, very real. Wouldn't shock me

1034
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 2: at all. If I end up not putting money on

1035
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 2: it and they do it, be kicking myself. This is

1036
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 2: from Donovan. Somebody, with college football on the edge of

1037
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 2: really booming as a sport, is there anywhere to invest

1038
01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 2: into it like you would the stock market? Thanks for

1039
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: your time. I don't think there is. I guess you

1040
01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: can invest in the networks corporations that broadcast the games,

1041
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 2: but there's so much other stuff under the umbrella not

1042
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 2: stock market advice would not recommend doing that. Colin is

1043
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 2: adamant that these venture capitalists are going to get involved

1044
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 2: with college football if it ever goes kind of separates

1045
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,480
Speaker 2: from the NCAA, because let's face it, it doesn't make

1046
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 2: that much sense as they keep growing and making all

1047
01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: the money to fund everything else, and because of rules

1048
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 2: like Title nine, they're forced to pay and listen, a

1049
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 2: lot of men sports don't make money either to pay

1050
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 2: for all, these sports don't make any money, so why

1051
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't they just go independent like the NFL and keep

1052
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 2: all the money for themselves, for the coaches, obviously in

1053
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: the players, and stop sharing it with like women's tennis

1054
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 2: and men's soccer, which feels inevitable at the rate in

1055
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:20,959
Speaker 2: which they were going because the money is growing exponentially.

1056
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: And when that happens, who knows, maybe it becomes under

1057
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 2: some crazy like in IPOs one day. If it does,

1058
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would invest, but I

1059
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 2: would push back a little bit. Like college football has

1060
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,480
Speaker 2: been popular for a long time now, and I would

1061
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Speaker 2: say their popularity this last decade has really solidified them

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Speaker 2: as the number two sport in America in terms of viewers.

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Speaker 2: Now it could only it's probably only going to grow

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Speaker 2: because of the twelve team playoff, because of gambling, because

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Speaker 2: of the consolidation of all the top teams playing each

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Speaker 2: other in the you know, adding these teams at the conference.

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Speaker 2: I'd say fifty to fifty chants one day. There's some

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Speaker 2: way to invest in college football as it's a public

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Speaker 2: company on the stock market. I don't exactly know how

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Speaker 2: the logistics of that would work, but you could definitely

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Speaker 2: foresee a road, but I think right now the only

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Speaker 2: way technically would be to like be a booster of

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Speaker 2: a program, but you don't get any money back. You know,

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Speaker 2: they give you tickets to the games and take care

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Speaker 2: of you during the Bowl week, But to my knowledge,

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Speaker 2: there is no way to invest

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Speaker 1: The volume