WEBVTT - Hell and Gone Murder Line: Aaron Hodge

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<v Speaker 1>School of Humans. Helen Got Murder Line actively investigates cold

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<v Speaker 1>be further investigated by law enforcement. While we value insights

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<v Speaker 1>from family and community members, their statements should not be

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<v Speaker 1>inherent in cold cases. We remind listeners that everyone has

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<v Speaker 1>that anyone who has not been convicted of a crime

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<v Speaker 1>is guilty of any wrongdoing. Thanks for listening.

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<v Speaker 2>In October of nineteen ninety five, something strange was going

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<v Speaker 2>on inside the Flick home at three h two McNabb

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<v Speaker 2>Street in Rector, Arkansas. The family was made up of

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<v Speaker 2>thirty six year old David Flick, his wife, four year

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<v Speaker 2>old Barbara, their daughter, eleven year old Andrea Flick, and

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<v Speaker 2>Barbara's son from a previous relationship, seventeen year old Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Hodge. Aaron was never officially adopted by David Flick,

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<v Speaker 2>but at the time he used his last name, so

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<v Speaker 2>he went by Aaron flick. Barbara was a nurse, her husband,

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<v Speaker 2>David had a transmission shop. Friends and family said that

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<v Speaker 2>they were a happy couple. Andrea played basketball and did

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<v Speaker 2>beauty pageants. Aaron was well liked by his friends as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Both Andrea and Aaron were popular at school. Aarin would

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<v Speaker 2>later say. Andrea, Barbara, and David were planning on going

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<v Speaker 2>to Florida to visit relatives, leaving seventeen year old Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>at home, and, like many teens at home alone, Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>decided to throw a party. This seems perfectly normal, except

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<v Speaker 2>that David, Barbara, and Andrea never arrived in Florida. Their

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<v Speaker 2>relatives were concerned, and after a week a friend of

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<v Speaker 2>Barbara's called the police. She said the family never showed

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<v Speaker 2>up at their relative's house and that no one had

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<v Speaker 2>seen them in several days.

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<v Speaker 3>So police did some checking.

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<v Speaker 2>They found that no one in Florida had seen David,

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<v Speaker 2>Barbara or Andrea, nor had anyone in Rector, Arkansas. But

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<v Speaker 2>there was one member of the family who had been

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<v Speaker 2>spotted around town, Aaron Hodge.

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<v Speaker 3>People had seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron driving his stepfather's pickup truck around Paragold. That weekend

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<v Speaker 2>was a big weekend to be out and about in

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<v Speaker 2>that area. It was homecoming weekend, which is a big

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<v Speaker 2>deal everywhere and especially in small towns. Everyone was at

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<v Speaker 2>the Friday night football game. On October thirteenth, nineteen ninety five,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron drove to the homecoming game and parties in David's

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<v Speaker 2>truck and was hanging out with friends there. He was

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<v Speaker 2>picked up by police at the homecoming festivity and taken

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<v Speaker 2>to the Paragold Police station. Paragold police officer Audrey Emberton

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<v Speaker 2>came to the station and interviewed Aarin. Officer Emberton and

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<v Speaker 2>another officer, Terry Prewitt, then went to the Flick family

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<v Speaker 2>home in the early morning hours at around one am

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<v Speaker 2>on Saturday, October fourteenth. Aaron lived in a converted garage.

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<v Speaker 3>It was in the main.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of the house, but it was his own kind

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<v Speaker 2>of separate area, away from the rest of the family.

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<v Speaker 2>When the police asked Aaron about his family, he said

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<v Speaker 2>they were fine. He said he had heard from them

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days earlier and they were supposed to

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<v Speaker 2>be back later that day, meaning later on Saturday. Police

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<v Speaker 2>did not buy that story. At three am, Officer Prewitt

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<v Speaker 2>went back to the home to talk to erin again.

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<v Speaker 2>This time Officer Prewett asked if he could get access

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<v Speaker 2>to the main part of the house where the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the family lived. Aaron told police that the doors

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<v Speaker 2>were locked, so Officer Prewitt looked around. He looked in

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<v Speaker 2>a window of the main house and saw some sheets

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<v Speaker 2>on the floor. When he asked Aaron about the sheets,

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<v Speaker 2>Aaron said the family had been doing some remodeling. Later

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<v Speaker 2>that morning, Aaron was at the police station answering questions,

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<v Speaker 2>and police went back to the Flick house. Officer Prewitt

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<v Speaker 2>got closer to the front door and he smelled something horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>The stench of decomposition was so overpowering that police later

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<v Speaker 2>noted they could smell it when they were one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and fifty feet away from the house. Officer Prewitt entered

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<v Speaker 2>the home, the smell got worse as he went further in.

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<v Speaker 2>He found David, Andrea, and Barbara all dead, and forensic

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<v Speaker 2>testing later showed they had been dead for about a week.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode is going to be a little bit different

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<v Speaker 2>from other cases we cover because this case isn't open.

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<v Speaker 3>It's already been solved.

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<v Speaker 2>But I thought that it was important to cover because

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<v Speaker 2>this is a very divisive case. There is a man

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<v Speaker 2>in prison for these murders, someone who claims that he

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<v Speaker 2>was wrongfully convicted. So was there a misunderstanding, could someone

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<v Speaker 2>else have been involved? Or is the right person behind

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<v Speaker 2>bars for killing this family in cold blood? On the surface,

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<v Speaker 2>this appeared to be a perfect family, but detectives quickly

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<v Speaker 2>discovered things behind closed doors were far from what they seemed.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened to turn this seemingly perfect family into a

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<v Speaker 2>house of horrors?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Catherine Townsend.

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<v Speaker 2>Over the past five years of making my true crime podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>Line police In. Arkansas we're interviewing seventeen year Old Aaron

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<v Speaker 2>hodge about a possible involvement the triple homicide of his entire.

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<v Speaker 2>Family aaron was. Crying he said he had no idea what. Happened,

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<v Speaker 2>meanwhile police were processing the crime. Scene inside the, house

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<v Speaker 2>the doorway To andrea's room was. Locked police busted it

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<v Speaker 2>down and found her lying in her. Bed andrea had

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<v Speaker 2>been shot in the. Head her torso was on the

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<v Speaker 2>bed and her feet were dangling off. It she was

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<v Speaker 2>wearing only her underwear and had been covered up with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Comforter andrea's white shorts AND t shirt were on the

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<v Speaker 2>floor near the. Bed her head was leaning against a

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<v Speaker 2>wall and her arm was up in what may have

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<v Speaker 2>been a defensive. Position detectives said they felt like she

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<v Speaker 2>had struggled with her, killer and that her killer had

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<v Speaker 2>used a pillow to muffle the noise from the. Gun

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<v Speaker 2>aaron lived in a converted bedroom right off the. Garage

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<v Speaker 2>his room was neat with no trace of. Blood police

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<v Speaker 2>did fine shells from a thirty eight caliber weapon In aaron's.

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<v Speaker 2>Room they later said that the murder weapon had been

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty eight caliber gun like the one owned By David.

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<v Speaker 2>Flick police followed the trail of blood down the hall

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<v Speaker 2>To barber's. Bedroom they found her lying on her bed

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<v Speaker 2>in her, nightgown with layers of bedding covering her. Body

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<v Speaker 2>because she was wearing her nightgown and because of the

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<v Speaker 2>position of her, body they felt That barbara had been

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping when she was. Attacked they Found david's body there,

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<v Speaker 2>too face, down at the foot Of barbara's water. Bed

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<v Speaker 2>he was wearing blue pants and a WHITE t. Shirt

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<v Speaker 2>police noted they found no signs of a struggle in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Bedroom police thought That david had not been shot and

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<v Speaker 2>killed In barbara's, bedroom but that he had been dragged

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<v Speaker 2>there from the living.

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<v Speaker 3>Room there were pulls of.

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<v Speaker 2>Blood on the living room sofa and a blood trail

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<v Speaker 2>down the hallway of the house that had been covered

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<v Speaker 2>up with. Pillows officers believed the killer had used the

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<v Speaker 2>pillows to muffle the sound of the, gun but there

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<v Speaker 2>was a lot that police didn't know because the bodies Of,

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<v Speaker 2>David andrea And barbara were too decomposed to know exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to them or how long they had been.

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<v Speaker 2>There all three victims were bloated and covered in large

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<v Speaker 2>blisters that were filled with. Fluid all of them had

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<v Speaker 2>been shot in the head at close. Range barbara And

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<v Speaker 2>andrea had each been shot. Once david had been shot three.

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<v Speaker 2>Times SO i want to back up and look at

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<v Speaker 2>how long the police had been asking questions about the

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<v Speaker 2>family and how Long aaron had been stalling with giving

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<v Speaker 2>them any. Information On october, fourteenth after Officers pruitt And

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<v Speaker 2>imbriden talked To aaron at three am and he said

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<v Speaker 2>his family was, fine police went To David flick's transmission

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<v Speaker 2>shop to see if they could find any. Clues police

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<v Speaker 2>Asked david's employee if he had noticed. Anything he said

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<v Speaker 2>that a toolbox Of david's had been broken, into there

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<v Speaker 2>was some, money and a gun that belonged To david.

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<v Speaker 2>Missing police suspected that something was, wrong so by now

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<v Speaker 2>the police Had aaron in. Custody when they got to

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<v Speaker 2>the interview, Room Officer, leach the officer who was Interrogating,

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<v Speaker 2>aaron Asked aarin to tell him what he. Knew aaron

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<v Speaker 2>said that his family were in the, home and Then

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<v Speaker 2>Officer leach asked what condition they were in if they were.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay aaron, said they're. Dead so Then aaron told his

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<v Speaker 2>version of the. Story, first he said he wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 2>what happened to his. Family, later he completely denied having

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<v Speaker 2>anything to do with their. Deaths he basically said that

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<v Speaker 2>he had gotten into a big fight With david and

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<v Speaker 2>That david had killed his. Family one week After David,

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<v Speaker 2>Flick Barbara, flick And Andrea flick were supposed to arrive In,

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<v Speaker 2>florida police were Interviewing aaron at the deaths of his family,

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<v Speaker 2>members But erin claimed that he didn't kill his. Family

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<v Speaker 2>he said that his, Stepfather David, flick had Killed andrea

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<v Speaker 2>And barbara in a fit of rage and then turned

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<v Speaker 2>the gun on. Himself but it was obvious that someone

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<v Speaker 2>had covered up the bodies in the. Home there were, sheets, blankets,

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<v Speaker 2>pillows and rugs spread out all over the living, room

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<v Speaker 2>So aaron's version of the story on the, surface seemed

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<v Speaker 2>to make zero. Sense If david had killed his wife

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<v Speaker 2>and daughter and then shot, himself how could he have

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<v Speaker 2>shot himself three.

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<v Speaker 3>Times in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Head this would mean That aaron had found the bodies

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<v Speaker 2>and then moved. Them after finding the, bodies police Reinterviewed

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<v Speaker 2>Arin Arin now said That david had been cheating On

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<v Speaker 2>barbara and that they had been sleeping. Separately aaron claimed

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<v Speaker 2>that he told his mother about the infidelity and that

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<v Speaker 2>she had made a plan to Leave. David aaron claimed

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<v Speaker 2>That andrea And barbara were planning on going To florida

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<v Speaker 2>without him And. David he said that He, aaron was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to go To florida to meet them. Later aaron

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<v Speaker 2>said he was supposed to stay with his grandmother until

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<v Speaker 2>he made the trip To. Florida then he was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be reunited with his mother and. Sister aarin admitted

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<v Speaker 2>that he did break Into david's. Store he stole his

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<v Speaker 2>stepfather's gun in, cash but he said he did that

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<v Speaker 2>Because david owed him. Money aaron said he and a

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<v Speaker 2>friend of his Named David gun had broken in To david's.

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<v Speaker 2>Shop after that he went. Home he had the gun

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<v Speaker 2>and the money with. Him he wanted to Avoid, david

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<v Speaker 2>so he said he went to his bedroom and locked the.

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<v Speaker 2>Door while in the, bedroom he claimed he was counting

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<v Speaker 2>the money and messing around with the, gun putting bullets

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<v Speaker 2>in it and pulling them. Out he Said david came

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<v Speaker 2>into his room and found him with the gun and the.

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<v Speaker 2>Money he said that he and his stepfather got into an.

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<v Speaker 2>Argument at some, point the argument spilled out into the living.

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<v Speaker 2>Room aaron said he Told david That barbara hated him

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<v Speaker 2>and that they were going to leave. Him aaron said

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<v Speaker 2>he told his stepfather he wished that he was. Dead,

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<v Speaker 2>Then aaron claimed that his stepfather was trying to Get

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<v Speaker 2>aaron to fight. Him aaron said he refused to do

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<v Speaker 2>that and he left the. House aaron claimed that when

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<v Speaker 2>he came back to the, house he heard something a,

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<v Speaker 2>gurgling snoring kind of noise coming From. David david was

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<v Speaker 2>on the. Couch he noticed there was blood pouring off

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<v Speaker 2>of the. Couch he claimed That david was already. Dead

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<v Speaker 2>aaron said that he was horrified to find his mother

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<v Speaker 2>and sister dead as. Well he said he believed That

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<v Speaker 2>david had killed both of them and then turned the

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<v Speaker 2>gun on. Himself aaron said that when he realized What

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<v Speaker 2>david had, done he shot his stepfather's body two more

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<v Speaker 2>times because he was so angry at. Him police Asked

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<v Speaker 2>daron why he hadn't called the authorities to report that

0:14:46.641 --> 0:14:50.361
<v Speaker 2>his parents and sister were. Dead he, said, basically he was.

0:14:50.361 --> 0:14:53.681
<v Speaker 2>Scared he said that he was afraid that police would

0:14:53.721 --> 0:14:57.321
<v Speaker 2>blame him for the, killings so he just shut the

0:14:57.321 --> 0:14:59.681
<v Speaker 2>door to the. House he went out to his own

0:14:59.721 --> 0:15:03.721
<v Speaker 2>separate area and left them, there and then he threw

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<v Speaker 2>a party in his part of the, house one that

0:15:07.121 --> 0:15:08.201
<v Speaker 2>didn't end for several.

0:15:08.281 --> 0:15:10.441
<v Speaker 3>Days could this be?

0:15:10.601 --> 0:15:13.761
<v Speaker 2>Possible Could aaron have found the bodies, and in some

0:15:13.841 --> 0:15:17.441
<v Speaker 2>kind of disassociated state of, shock just Moved david into

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<v Speaker 2>the bedroom and then stayed away gone out with his.

0:15:20.721 --> 0:15:24.961
<v Speaker 2>Friends after the, interview detectives had to figure out If

0:15:25.001 --> 0:15:26.641
<v Speaker 2>aaron's version of events was even.

0:15:26.721 --> 0:15:28.881
<v Speaker 3>Possible was this just.

0:15:28.801 --> 0:15:32.441
<v Speaker 2>A terrified teen who was disassociated from reality after abuse

0:15:32.481 --> 0:15:36.921
<v Speaker 2>at home or a cold blooded. Killer in the days

0:15:36.961 --> 0:15:41.361
<v Speaker 2>between his family's deaths and police discovering the, Bodies aaron lived.

0:15:41.441 --> 0:15:45.601
<v Speaker 2>Large he drove David it's black nineteen eighty NINE gmc

0:15:45.681 --> 0:15:48.601
<v Speaker 2>pickup truck around. Town he spent the money that he

0:15:48.601 --> 0:15:52.001
<v Speaker 2>had stolen from the. Shop he also Used david's credit.

0:15:52.041 --> 0:15:56.081
<v Speaker 2>Cards witnesses told police That aaron spent money on clothes AT. J. C,

0:15:56.241 --> 0:16:00.561
<v Speaker 2>penny on gas and other, items and That aaron was

0:16:00.641 --> 0:16:05.041
<v Speaker 2>Signing david's name for these. Purchases one Of aaron's friends

0:16:05.081 --> 0:16:09.121
<v Speaker 2>told police he saw receipts for big amounts six hundred

0:16:09.161 --> 0:16:13.121
<v Speaker 2>to seven hundred, dollars and when friends and family members

0:16:13.161 --> 0:16:16.601
<v Speaker 2>would Ask arin where his parents, were he told everyone

0:16:16.681 --> 0:16:20.481
<v Speaker 2>that they were on vacation In. Florida after police Told

0:16:20.521 --> 0:16:24.481
<v Speaker 2>aaron they found the, bodies he insisted That david had murdered.

0:16:24.481 --> 0:16:28.761
<v Speaker 2>Them police talked To david And barbara's. Friends many of

0:16:28.801 --> 0:16:32.081
<v Speaker 2>them Said david And barbara had a lot of problems With,

0:16:32.121 --> 0:16:35.801
<v Speaker 2>aaron and one friend Of barbara's confessed something even more.

0:16:35.841 --> 0:16:40.481
<v Speaker 2>Suspicious she said Both barbara And david had been afraid Of.

0:16:40.601 --> 0:16:44.201
<v Speaker 2>Erin they said That aaron had issues at, school that

0:16:44.241 --> 0:16:46.521
<v Speaker 2>he had recently been suspended for a day for making

0:16:46.521 --> 0:16:49.681
<v Speaker 2>an obscene gesture while the class picture was being, taken.

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<v Speaker 3>But things were more serious than just school.

0:16:52.081 --> 0:16:54.921
<v Speaker 2>PRANKS a friend Of david's who worked with him at

0:16:54.961 --> 0:16:58.761
<v Speaker 2>the transmission shop told police That david had Bought aaron

0:16:58.801 --> 0:17:02.561
<v Speaker 2>A mustang for his sixteenth, birthday but that one condition

0:17:02.641 --> 0:17:05.241
<v Speaker 2>of buying the car was That aaron had to maintain good,

0:17:05.321 --> 0:17:09.400
<v Speaker 2>grades But aarin, Didn't his grades slipped and the car

0:17:09.481 --> 0:17:13.640
<v Speaker 2>was taken. Away Then arin got stopped at THE asu.

0:17:13.721 --> 0:17:17.440
<v Speaker 2>Campus he gave his name As Aaron flick and apparently

0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:19.241
<v Speaker 2>used a fake social security.

0:17:19.321 --> 0:17:19.600
<v Speaker 4>Number.

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<v Speaker 2>Anne david also confided in his friend That arin had

0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.001
<v Speaker 2>choked his Sister andrea because she wouldn't give him. Money

0:17:29.241 --> 0:17:32.401
<v Speaker 2>david told his friend that he was ready to Leave

0:17:32.441 --> 0:17:35.880
<v Speaker 2>barbara because he couldn't Discipline aaron the way he wanted,

0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:39.721
<v Speaker 2>to but he said he wouldn't leave because of his.

0:17:39.681 --> 0:17:40.200
<v Speaker 3>Love for his.

0:17:40.360 --> 0:17:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Daughter so tensions were rising inside that. House but what

0:17:45.561 --> 0:17:50.681
<v Speaker 2>could have happened that led to the triple. Homicide friends

0:17:50.681 --> 0:17:53.521
<v Speaker 2>Of aaron said that he drank and took. Drugs his,

0:17:53.641 --> 0:17:56.641
<v Speaker 2>grandmother the grandmother he said he was supposed to stay,

0:17:56.641 --> 0:17:59.521
<v Speaker 2>with was the only one WHO i can find in

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<v Speaker 2>police interviews who actually had some nice things to say About.

0:18:02.881 --> 0:18:06.761
<v Speaker 2>Aaron she apparently described him as being a mild mannered.

0:18:06.801 --> 0:18:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Person in, fact things had gotten so bad Between aaron

0:18:10.881 --> 0:18:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and his parents they were planning on sending him to

0:18:13.601 --> 0:18:17.721
<v Speaker 2>a juvenile facility The Arkansas Baptist Boys ranch In, harrison

0:18:18.401 --> 0:18:22.801
<v Speaker 2>and the relationship Between aaron and his, Stepfather david was particularly.

0:18:22.840 --> 0:18:28.521
<v Speaker 2>Tumultuous police talked To aaron's, Friend David. Gunn this friend

0:18:28.601 --> 0:18:32.080
<v Speaker 2>later testified That aaron asked him if he would drive

0:18:32.201 --> 0:18:35.281
<v Speaker 2>erin to his stepfather's transmission shop at eleven pm On,

0:18:35.441 --> 0:18:39.041
<v Speaker 2>Sunday october, eighth nineteen ninety. Five when they got, There

0:18:39.201 --> 0:18:41.681
<v Speaker 2>aaron tried his keys in the, door but the keys didn't,

0:18:41.681 --> 0:18:44.600
<v Speaker 2>work So david said that Anir aaron broke into the

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<v Speaker 2>shop and then broke open a. Toolbox all there was

0:18:48.601 --> 0:18:52.120
<v Speaker 2>in there was fifty, dollars Which aaron. Stole the friend

0:18:52.201 --> 0:18:54.360
<v Speaker 2>testified this seemed to be kind of a surprise To,

0:18:54.401 --> 0:18:57.001
<v Speaker 2>aaron Because aaron said he expected to find more. Money

0:18:57.721 --> 0:19:01.160
<v Speaker 2>aaron's friends said That aaron also stole a pistol a

0:19:01.241 --> 0:19:04.600
<v Speaker 2>holster in shells from the. Toolbox he said That aaron

0:19:04.721 --> 0:19:09.041
<v Speaker 2>loaded five shells into that. Pistol after, That David gunn

0:19:09.121 --> 0:19:10.881
<v Speaker 2>said that he And aaron took a ride and drove

0:19:10.921 --> 0:19:14.121
<v Speaker 2>to a. Cemetery aaron got out of the car and said.

0:19:13.881 --> 0:19:14.441
<v Speaker 3>He needed to.

0:19:14.481 --> 0:19:17.841
<v Speaker 2>Think then he came back to the. Car they drove

0:19:17.881 --> 0:19:21.881
<v Speaker 2>To aaron's. House aaron walked in carrying that stolen. Pistol

0:19:22.601 --> 0:19:25.120
<v Speaker 2>the next time he Saw aaron was when he was

0:19:25.161 --> 0:19:30.521
<v Speaker 2>at school the next day driving his stepfather's. Truck police

0:19:30.561 --> 0:19:33.881
<v Speaker 2>were trying to establish a timeline because of the fact

0:19:33.921 --> 0:19:37.161
<v Speaker 2>That aaron was driving the. Truck police believed the family

0:19:37.201 --> 0:19:39.881
<v Speaker 2>were killed on the night Of october, eighth nineteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 2>five which means they would have been lying there for

0:19:43.001 --> 0:19:46.600
<v Speaker 2>five days until the thirteenth or the early morning hours

0:19:46.601 --> 0:19:50.281
<v Speaker 2>of the, fourteenth when they were. Found more than one

0:19:50.321 --> 0:19:53.400
<v Speaker 2>person told police it was very unusual For aaron to

0:19:53.401 --> 0:19:56.640
<v Speaker 2>be driving his stepfather's. Vehicle they knew he did not

0:19:56.881 --> 0:20:00.321
<v Speaker 2>normally have permission to drive that. TRUCK a lot of

0:20:00.361 --> 0:20:04.081
<v Speaker 2>people told Police aaron and his stepfather did not get,

0:20:04.080 --> 0:20:07.160
<v Speaker 2>along And aaron didn't just drive the truck to school

0:20:07.161 --> 0:20:10.561
<v Speaker 2>that one. Day he drove his stepfather's truck for several.

0:20:10.641 --> 0:20:13.481
<v Speaker 2>Days he took his friends to the, Movies he drove

0:20:13.521 --> 0:20:17.041
<v Speaker 2>Around rector And paragold And jonesboro in the, truck and

0:20:17.601 --> 0:20:21.921
<v Speaker 2>he threw parties at. Home police talked to a lot

0:20:21.921 --> 0:20:24.640
<v Speaker 2>of teenagers who said they were drinking and smoking pot

0:20:24.721 --> 0:20:28.001
<v Speaker 2>in that apartment all. Week police also talked to a

0:20:28.001 --> 0:20:31.360
<v Speaker 2>young woman who testified she had sex With aaron in

0:20:31.441 --> 0:20:36.041
<v Speaker 2>his bedroom off the. Garage some people at the parties

0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.801
<v Speaker 2>said they noticed a bad smell even though the bodies

0:20:39.801 --> 0:20:42.721
<v Speaker 2>were in the main part of the. House they Said

0:20:42.801 --> 0:20:45.880
<v Speaker 2>aaron had excus. Uses he told them the sewer was backing.

0:20:45.961 --> 0:20:48.201
<v Speaker 2>Up he told others it was cat.

0:20:48.241 --> 0:20:49.160
<v Speaker 3>Litter he.

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<v Speaker 2>Said there was work and remodeling and stuff going on

0:20:51.441 --> 0:20:53.521
<v Speaker 2>in the main part of the, house so everyone just

0:20:53.561 --> 0:20:57.120
<v Speaker 2>stayed away from. It it wasn't until much later that

0:20:57.241 --> 0:21:01.561
<v Speaker 2>these teens realized with horror they had been partying next

0:21:01.601 --> 0:21:06.401
<v Speaker 2>to three dead. Bodies his friend said during that week

0:21:06.441 --> 0:21:09.561
<v Speaker 2>That aarin seemed calm and happy and, normal that he

0:21:09.681 --> 0:21:12.201
<v Speaker 2>told more than one person it was the best week

0:21:12.241 --> 0:21:12.440
<v Speaker 2>of his.

0:21:12.521 --> 0:21:14.201
<v Speaker 3>Life he had.

0:21:14.041 --> 0:21:16.721
<v Speaker 2>Plenty of money to spend on purchases and a nice

0:21:16.761 --> 0:21:21.001
<v Speaker 2>truck to. Drive police found bloody clothing In david's, truck

0:21:21.241 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 2>along with a pillow that appeared to have a gunshot

0:21:23.881 --> 0:21:26.840
<v Speaker 2>hole in. It that was the one they believed the

0:21:26.921 --> 0:21:30.681
<v Speaker 2>killer used as a. Silencer this didn't seem to make,

0:21:30.721 --> 0:21:34.481
<v Speaker 2>sense because If aaron's version of the story was, true

0:21:34.601 --> 0:21:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Then david would have to have killed his wife and,

0:21:36.961 --> 0:21:40.561
<v Speaker 2>daughter then put that bloody pillow case into the, truck

0:21:41.361 --> 0:21:44.521
<v Speaker 2>then gone, back lay down on the sofa and shot

0:21:44.561 --> 0:21:48.121
<v Speaker 2>himself in the. Head this was something That aaron never

0:21:48.161 --> 0:21:52.281
<v Speaker 2>really explained in his version of the. Story aaron told

0:21:52.361 --> 0:21:55.721
<v Speaker 2>police he did not kill his, family but he did

0:21:55.840 --> 0:21:59.080
<v Speaker 2>tell several different versions of the. Story at, first he

0:21:59.161 --> 0:22:01.921
<v Speaker 2>said he had no idea what happened to. Them, later

0:22:02.001 --> 0:22:05.600
<v Speaker 2>according to court, documents he said he didn't remember exactly what,

0:22:05.761 --> 0:22:08.881
<v Speaker 2>happened but that he could have done. It he admitted

0:22:08.881 --> 0:22:11.801
<v Speaker 2>to police he hated his. Stepfather he said he felt

0:22:11.801 --> 0:22:16.361
<v Speaker 2>like he was out of. Control Was aaron being abused at?

0:22:16.361 --> 0:22:18.441
<v Speaker 2>Home was this just a fight that got out of,

0:22:18.441 --> 0:22:24.201
<v Speaker 2>control or was this something much more. Premeditated one friend

0:22:24.241 --> 0:22:28.521
<v Speaker 2>Of barbara's Named Darlene, bolin Testified david told her specifically

0:22:28.601 --> 0:22:31.201
<v Speaker 2>that he was afraid Of erin and afraid of quote

0:22:31.401 --> 0:22:35.561
<v Speaker 2>what was going to. Happen aaron's, Friend David, gunn also

0:22:35.681 --> 0:22:39.521
<v Speaker 2>Testified aaron had been thinking about killing his. Stepfather he

0:22:39.641 --> 0:22:42.401
<v Speaker 2>said That aaron told him six months before the murders

0:22:42.601 --> 0:22:45.481
<v Speaker 2>that he planned to Kill David flick by hitting him

0:22:45.481 --> 0:22:48.561
<v Speaker 2>on the head with a wrench and later burying the. Body,

0:22:49.881 --> 0:22:52.600
<v Speaker 2>Then aaron's friend Said aaron planned to say that his

0:22:52.641 --> 0:22:58.041
<v Speaker 2>stepfather was. Missing police didn't Believe aaron's, story but there

0:22:58.281 --> 0:23:00.481
<v Speaker 2>was gunshot residue On David flick's.

0:23:00.481 --> 0:23:02.321
<v Speaker 3>Hands an employee of.

0:23:02.321 --> 0:23:05.920
<v Speaker 2>The State Crime laboratory Testified David flick's left hand tested

0:23:05.961 --> 0:23:10.600
<v Speaker 2>positive for gunshot, residue his right hand tested. Negative the

0:23:10.761 --> 0:23:14.481
<v Speaker 2>problem was most of the gunshot residue was on the wrong,

0:23:14.601 --> 0:23:16.601
<v Speaker 2>hand Because David flick was right.

0:23:16.641 --> 0:23:19.001
<v Speaker 3>Handed when the state crime.

0:23:18.761 --> 0:23:21.961
<v Speaker 2>Expert was asked about this in, court she Said david

0:23:22.041 --> 0:23:24.241
<v Speaker 2>could have had that residue on his hands because he

0:23:24.281 --> 0:23:27.201
<v Speaker 2>had fired a weapon, recently but it also could have

0:23:27.241 --> 0:23:30.120
<v Speaker 2>been there for other. Reasons for, example it could have

0:23:30.241 --> 0:23:32.881
<v Speaker 2>rubbed off On david if his body was dragged away

0:23:33.161 --> 0:23:36.641
<v Speaker 2>by some person who had gunshot residue on their own.

0:23:36.681 --> 0:23:42.200
<v Speaker 2>Hands police were not Buying aaron's. Story aaron was charged

0:23:42.241 --> 0:23:45.601
<v Speaker 2>with triple capital murder for the killings Of, David, barbara And.

0:23:45.601 --> 0:23:49.961
<v Speaker 2>Andrea at, Trial aaron's defense attorneys said his, Father David,

0:23:49.961 --> 0:23:52.600
<v Speaker 2>flick was the, killer that he Killed barbara And andrea

0:23:52.641 --> 0:23:57.721
<v Speaker 2>and then shot. Himself they claimed That david shot his

0:23:57.840 --> 0:24:00.761
<v Speaker 2>wife and daughter using his left hand so his non

0:24:00.840 --> 0:24:04.281
<v Speaker 2>dominant hand to, fire and that he used the pillowcases

0:24:04.321 --> 0:24:09.521
<v Speaker 2>as homemade silencers to muffle the. Sounds aaron's lawyers set

0:24:09.521 --> 0:24:12.961
<v Speaker 2>in court that he was so distraught after coming home

0:24:13.041 --> 0:24:16.321
<v Speaker 2>and finding his mother and sister's bodies And david lying

0:24:16.321 --> 0:24:20.081
<v Speaker 2>on the sofa already, dead that he Shot david twice

0:24:20.161 --> 0:24:23.961
<v Speaker 2>more in the, head and that after trying to cover

0:24:24.080 --> 0:24:27.920
<v Speaker 2>up the bodies and, blood he basically disassociated with.

0:24:27.961 --> 0:24:30.441
<v Speaker 3>Reality at, trial.

0:24:30.601 --> 0:24:34.401
<v Speaker 2>The state and the defense painted two very different versions

0:24:34.681 --> 0:24:38.041
<v Speaker 2>of what was really going on behind closed doors inside

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.761
<v Speaker 2>The flick. House there was no question there were major

0:24:41.801 --> 0:24:45.481
<v Speaker 2>problems in that. Home had hated his, stepfather and at

0:24:45.561 --> 0:24:48.801
<v Speaker 2>least one Of barbara's close friends testified That aaron's parents

0:24:48.801 --> 0:24:52.241
<v Speaker 2>were afraid of, him and there were some things that

0:24:52.281 --> 0:24:54.961
<v Speaker 2>police found that would seem, to at least on the,

0:24:55.041 --> 0:24:57.920
<v Speaker 2>surface back up some of the things That aaron was

0:24:57.961 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 2>saying about infidelity In barbara And david's, relationship because when

0:25:02.121 --> 0:25:06.400
<v Speaker 2>police searched the transmission, shop they found what was described

0:25:06.521 --> 0:25:11.920
<v Speaker 2>as sex paraphernalia in. There according to police, reports there

0:25:11.921 --> 0:25:14.641
<v Speaker 2>were photographs in that, shop and one of those, photographs

0:25:14.681 --> 0:25:17.921
<v Speaker 2>according to court, documents seemed to back up the fact

0:25:17.921 --> 0:25:21.481
<v Speaker 2>That barbara was engaged in some kind of sexual activity

0:25:21.481 --> 0:25:24.160
<v Speaker 2>and that there were images of, Her but it's really

0:25:24.201 --> 0:25:27.481
<v Speaker 2>not clear whether that was evidence of her having an

0:25:27.481 --> 0:25:31.120
<v Speaker 2>affair with someone else or whether the pictures just Showed

0:25:31.161 --> 0:25:37.921
<v Speaker 2>barbara And, honestly it's confusing because these pictures were in her,

0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:42.161
<v Speaker 2>Husband david's, Toolbox so it does beg the, question if

0:25:42.161 --> 0:25:46.361
<v Speaker 2>it was Showing barbara engaging in, infidelity Why david would

0:25:46.401 --> 0:25:49.881
<v Speaker 2>keep those pictures in his own. Toolbox that is still

0:25:49.921 --> 0:25:53.281
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of a. Mystery aaron's attorneys seemed to

0:25:53.321 --> 0:25:56.281
<v Speaker 2>be making the point that those photographs could have Caused

0:25:56.361 --> 0:25:58.641
<v Speaker 2>david to fly into a rage and could have led

0:25:58.681 --> 0:26:01.400
<v Speaker 2>to a volatle argument on the evening Of october, eighth

0:26:02.001 --> 0:26:05.881
<v Speaker 2>but those photographs were not allowed in. Court even if

0:26:05.921 --> 0:26:09.321
<v Speaker 2>there was a huge fight in the, home what would

0:26:09.361 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>Motivate aarin to kill his? Mother the prosecutors believe that

0:26:14.001 --> 0:26:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it was the prospect Of david's mother siding with his

0:26:16.681 --> 0:26:19.881
<v Speaker 2>stepfather and planning to Send erin away to a juvenile.

0:26:19.961 --> 0:26:22.721
<v Speaker 3>Home but what about his Sister.

0:26:22.921 --> 0:26:26.961
<v Speaker 2>Andrea even If aaron flew into a rage and killed his,

0:26:27.041 --> 0:26:30.400
<v Speaker 2>stepfather who he admitted to people he, hated and his,

0:26:30.521 --> 0:26:33.921
<v Speaker 2>mother how could he kill his eleven year old, sister

0:26:34.441 --> 0:26:37.441
<v Speaker 2>who even those who didn't Like aaron admit.

0:26:37.241 --> 0:26:38.160
<v Speaker 3>He seemed to truly.

0:26:38.241 --> 0:26:42.120
<v Speaker 2>Love but it turned out That aaron's relationship with his

0:26:42.161 --> 0:26:45.721
<v Speaker 2>Sister andrea was not straightforward As aaron may have told.

0:26:45.801 --> 0:26:50.201
<v Speaker 2>People remember that friend Of, david's the one who told police,

0:26:50.241 --> 0:26:53.761
<v Speaker 2>that according To, David aaron choked his sister because she

0:26:53.801 --> 0:26:58.041
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't give him. Money that same friend said That david

0:26:58.121 --> 0:27:01.400
<v Speaker 2>did not want erin in the house because he Said

0:27:01.641 --> 0:27:05.041
<v Speaker 2>aaron had threatened to Kill andrea if she Told david

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:08.561
<v Speaker 2>About aaron hurting her or stealing her. Money things had

0:27:08.561 --> 0:27:11.640
<v Speaker 2>gotten so bad that in the three to five months

0:27:11.641 --> 0:27:16.201
<v Speaker 2>before the, Killings david was so worried he would not

0:27:16.601 --> 0:27:20.441
<v Speaker 2>Leave andrea alone When aarin was, there And andrea was

0:27:20.521 --> 0:27:23.600
<v Speaker 2>so scared of her brother that she would lock herself

0:27:23.641 --> 0:27:27.401
<v Speaker 2>in her. Room the state Claimed aaron did it because

0:27:27.401 --> 0:27:30.881
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to. Party they introduced evidence of his behavior

0:27:31.001 --> 0:27:32.920
<v Speaker 2>during the week after the murders to speak to his

0:27:32.961 --> 0:27:36.281
<v Speaker 2>state of. Mind they said he drank, smoke, pot had

0:27:36.361 --> 0:27:39.961
<v Speaker 2>sex and three, parties that he spent his stepfather's money

0:27:40.001 --> 0:27:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and stole his credit. Cards they claimed that he had

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<v Speaker 2>no rem and that one Of aaron's motives in killing

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<v Speaker 2>his victims was his desire to engage in a hedonistic,

0:27:51.201 --> 0:27:54.641
<v Speaker 2>lifestyle one that presumably he could not have engaged in

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:59.881
<v Speaker 2>unless there were no adult. Witnesses Aaron hodge was found.

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<v Speaker 2>Guilty when asked by the judge if he had anything to, Say.

0:28:04.321 --> 0:28:05.761
<v Speaker 3>Aaron, Replied i'm not.

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<v Speaker 2>Guilty at the, time The Circuit court was required to

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<v Speaker 2>Sentence aron to the mandatory sentence life without the possibility of,

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<v Speaker 2>parole so in nineteen ninety, Six Aaron hodge was sent

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<v Speaker 2>to serve his time in maximum security at The East

0:28:21.601 --> 0:28:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Arkansas Regional unit In, marianna where he has been for

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<v Speaker 2>the last twenty nine. Years Aaron hodge is still in,

0:28:36.921 --> 0:28:42.121
<v Speaker 2>prison but he has a, Girlfriend. Jennifer jennifer Met aaron

0:28:42.161 --> 0:28:45.121
<v Speaker 2>as a. Child they reac connected much later when she

0:28:45.201 --> 0:28:48.641
<v Speaker 2>was going through a divorce in her. Forties jennifer said

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<v Speaker 2>she believes In aaron's.

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<v Speaker 4>INNOCENCE i think we were probably about nine ten years,

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<v Speaker 4>old and he lived right around the corner from my,

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<v Speaker 4>grandma SO i saw him all the time with his,

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<v Speaker 4>sister and our friends were kind of all the, same

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<v Speaker 4>AND i mean it was just an odd, Thing LIKE

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<v Speaker 4>i remember. SEVENTEEN i didn't talk to him from when

0:29:05.841 --> 0:29:09.521
<v Speaker 4>he was seventeen until about about three and a half years. Ago,

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<v Speaker 4>NOW i guess every year that he, went you, know

0:29:12.241 --> 0:29:13.761
<v Speaker 4>he'd have to come over here To, johnsboro And i'm

0:29:13.801 --> 0:29:15.881
<v Speaker 4>not even really sure for, what but he would have

0:29:15.921 --> 0:29:18.561
<v Speaker 4>to come over here And i'd see him on THE

0:29:19.641 --> 0:29:22.041
<v Speaker 4>ki two would slash that picture and it just break

0:29:22.081 --> 0:29:24.401
<v Speaker 4>my heart because he just looks but that's not even

0:29:24.441 --> 0:29:26.641
<v Speaker 4>what he looks. Like for, One i'll send you a picture,

0:29:26.721 --> 0:29:29.281
<v Speaker 4>too that's not even any of the pictures you see

0:29:29.441 --> 0:29:31.361
<v Speaker 4>of me looks so scary and he's. Not he does

0:29:31.401 --> 0:29:32.081
<v Speaker 4>not even look like.

0:29:32.121 --> 0:29:33.721
<v Speaker 3>That jennifer.

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<v Speaker 2>Said she And aaron started writing letters to each, other

0:29:36.841 --> 0:29:40.481
<v Speaker 2>which led to video, visits and then, eventually she said

0:29:40.481 --> 0:29:43.521
<v Speaker 2>that he opened up about what he claimed happened during

0:29:43.521 --> 0:29:46.121
<v Speaker 2>that fateful week In october in nineteen ninety.

0:29:46.161 --> 0:29:49.361
<v Speaker 4>Seven she had cheated And aaron was going out in

0:29:49.361 --> 0:29:51.401
<v Speaker 4>his face Because aaron had gotten them and he was

0:29:51.401 --> 0:29:52.761
<v Speaker 4>a punk, kid and he'll tell you, that he, Said

0:29:52.761 --> 0:29:54.521
<v Speaker 4>but that doesn't MEAN i killed my, mom you. Know

0:29:55.481 --> 0:29:58.001
<v Speaker 4>and they were into. It she was into it with.

0:29:58.081 --> 0:30:01.521
<v Speaker 4>Him aaron left to go to his friend's, house was

0:30:01.561 --> 0:30:03.761
<v Speaker 4>gone not long at. All when he came, back he,

0:30:03.801 --> 0:30:06.881
<v Speaker 4>said he walked, in he's heard something gurgling or, whatever

0:30:07.081 --> 0:30:09.761
<v Speaker 4>all the exact, words but his mom and sister were

0:30:09.761 --> 0:30:12.081
<v Speaker 4>dead and his stepdad had shot himself and he put

0:30:12.121 --> 0:30:14.361
<v Speaker 4>three more rounds. In it might believe it's his, words

0:30:14.401 --> 0:30:17.881
<v Speaker 4>but again that needs to come from. Him but it's

0:30:17.881 --> 0:30:20.481
<v Speaker 4>always been the. Same it's never changed, ever not. Once

0:30:21.201 --> 0:30:23.641
<v Speaker 4>eight months in is when he started opening up about.

0:30:23.681 --> 0:30:28.201
<v Speaker 4>It and Then i'd had a teenager go through adolescents

0:30:28.201 --> 0:30:30.881
<v Speaker 4>who we just, had you, know just buck wild and

0:30:31.441 --> 0:30:35.041
<v Speaker 4>went through. Stuff and SO i think that's WHY i

0:30:35.081 --> 0:30:37.241
<v Speaker 4>was put in the situation to be able to understand

0:30:37.281 --> 0:30:40.121
<v Speaker 4>and hear it WHEN i, did and oh my, GOSH i,

0:30:40.121 --> 0:30:42.001
<v Speaker 4>MEAN i JUST i remember when he told this story

0:30:42.001 --> 0:30:44.201
<v Speaker 4>to me the first, time all the way, through my knee.

0:30:44.281 --> 0:30:46.601
<v Speaker 4>BUCKLED i, mean they just boockled BECAUSE i, KNEW i

0:30:46.681 --> 0:30:48.561
<v Speaker 4>knew in my heart that he was killing the.

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<v Speaker 2>Truth in twenty, twelve there was another strange twist in

0:30:53.201 --> 0:30:58.441
<v Speaker 2>this case because THE Us Supreme court decided that mandatory

0:30:58.761 --> 0:31:01.921
<v Speaker 2>life without the possibility of parole sentences for miners were.

0:31:01.961 --> 0:31:05.881
<v Speaker 2>Unconstitutional so that meant people under the age of eighteen

0:31:05.921 --> 0:31:09.121
<v Speaker 2>who were given a sentence of life without parole could

0:31:09.161 --> 0:31:14.521
<v Speaker 2>be eligible for. Resentencing this Included Aaron, hodge so this

0:31:14.721 --> 0:31:17.881
<v Speaker 2>paved the way For aaron to get another sentencing, hearing

0:31:18.441 --> 0:31:23.241
<v Speaker 2>which happened On december, sixth twenty twenty, two once again

0:31:23.401 --> 0:31:26.961
<v Speaker 2>information was presented to a jury in Craig Head. County

0:31:27.201 --> 0:31:30.481
<v Speaker 2>that jury Gave aaron a sentence of thirty, years which

0:31:30.521 --> 0:31:34.281
<v Speaker 2>meant that with time, Served Aaron hodge could be free

0:31:34.721 --> 0:31:37.241
<v Speaker 2>in as little as three, years which.

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<v Speaker 3>Would be the year twenty twenty.

0:31:39.361 --> 0:31:43.481
<v Speaker 2>Five he was eligible for parole before and went before

0:31:43.521 --> 0:31:46.921
<v Speaker 2>the parole board in twenty twenty, three but the information

0:31:47.001 --> 0:31:49.801
<v Speaker 2>THAT i could find said that the parole hearing that

0:31:49.841 --> 0:31:53.001
<v Speaker 2>happened in twenty twenty three was. Deferred so as of,

0:31:53.081 --> 0:31:58.841
<v Speaker 2>Today Aaron hodge is still behind, bars but he could

0:31:58.881 --> 0:32:04.561
<v Speaker 2>be free very. Soon jennifer said that her family had

0:32:04.601 --> 0:32:08.721
<v Speaker 2>expressed concerns about her relationship With, aaron but she says

0:32:08.761 --> 0:32:11.401
<v Speaker 2>some of them now believe That aaron is a changed.

0:32:11.441 --> 0:32:14.481
<v Speaker 4>MAN i was, like, look just go back down telling

0:32:14.521 --> 0:32:17.441
<v Speaker 4>you and he was this completely different. Person he Found,

0:32:17.441 --> 0:32:20.481
<v Speaker 4>god he you, know and everything he's saying out That he's,

0:32:20.481 --> 0:32:22.161
<v Speaker 4>LIKE i just want to have a house on the

0:32:22.241 --> 0:32:25.361
<v Speaker 4>end of the road with a dog and be able

0:32:25.401 --> 0:32:27.681
<v Speaker 4>to see a, sunset AND i see.

0:32:27.721 --> 0:32:32.241
<v Speaker 2>It aaron continues to maintain his innocence as he has

0:32:32.321 --> 0:32:35.561
<v Speaker 2>for the past thirty, years and his girlfriend says she

0:32:35.681 --> 0:32:36.681
<v Speaker 2>believes that he should be.

0:32:36.761 --> 0:32:39.641
<v Speaker 4>Released he talks about the sunset and goes over and,

0:32:39.641 --> 0:32:41.041
<v Speaker 4>over and he, said the first TIME i get out

0:32:41.041 --> 0:32:43.201
<v Speaker 4>of him and take a picture of the, sunset where

0:32:43.281 --> 0:32:45.681
<v Speaker 4>WERE I Whatever i'm, doing And i'm going to post

0:32:45.721 --> 0:32:49.081
<v Speaker 4>it on My facebook with my, name And i'm not gonna,

0:32:49.121 --> 0:32:52.481
<v Speaker 4>hide because you know, what everybody want to delve their,

0:32:52.521 --> 0:32:55.121
<v Speaker 4>life and they, did and they'll answer To god for.

0:32:55.201 --> 0:32:58.481
<v Speaker 4>That but this is my, turn And i'm going to

0:32:58.521 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 4>be exactly Who i'm going to, be And i'm going

0:33:01.521 --> 0:33:03.561
<v Speaker 4>to Thank god for it and realize how LUCKY i

0:33:03.601 --> 0:33:03.921
<v Speaker 4>am every.

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<v Speaker 2>Day of, course not everyone agreed with. This family members

0:33:09.081 --> 0:33:12.121
<v Speaker 2>and people close to the victims believed the rightful killer

0:33:12.521 --> 0:33:16.241
<v Speaker 2>was and is behind, bars and that releasing him will

0:33:16.281 --> 0:33:20.201
<v Speaker 2>be dangerous to the. Community aaron has had several disciplinary

0:33:20.281 --> 0:33:24.801
<v Speaker 2>violations while incarcerated at The East Arkansas REGIONAL. MAX a

0:33:24.881 --> 0:33:28.801
<v Speaker 2>petition on change dot org that has been circulated by

0:33:28.841 --> 0:33:32.801
<v Speaker 2>supporters of the victims' families claimed that the rescenencing hearing

0:33:32.881 --> 0:33:36.561
<v Speaker 2>was biased Because aaron was able to, quote introduce new,

0:33:36.601 --> 0:33:39.601
<v Speaker 2>evidence and spew wise and hatred on the stand all

0:33:39.641 --> 0:33:42.401
<v Speaker 2>the while us the victims were told to either stick

0:33:42.441 --> 0:33:44.321
<v Speaker 2>with what was said in the original try or have

0:33:44.401 --> 0:33:49.161
<v Speaker 2>our victim impact statements heavily edited end quote this. Petition

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<v Speaker 2>justice for The flicks said they believe that quote the

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<v Speaker 2>people Of, Rector arkansas on, us the victims who were

0:33:56.081 --> 0:34:00.041
<v Speaker 2>called to retestify and or to read victim's impact statements

0:34:00.361 --> 0:34:04.521
<v Speaker 2>are all potentially in danger of his wrath once he is.

0:34:04.601 --> 0:34:05.481
<v Speaker 3>Released end.

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<v Speaker 2>Quote they have asked that people reading the petition contact

0:34:09.881 --> 0:34:12.841
<v Speaker 2>the local government representatives to voice their opinions about the

0:34:12.921 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 2>danger of Releasing. Aron so, far this petition has gotten one,

0:34:20.241 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 2>thousand two hundred.

0:34:21.321 --> 0:34:22.121
<v Speaker 3>And sixty seven.

0:34:22.161 --> 0:34:26.281
<v Speaker 2>Signatures considering that there are only one eight hundred and

0:34:26.281 --> 0:34:30.161
<v Speaker 2>twenty three people In, Rector, arkansas two hundred and sixty

0:34:30.201 --> 0:34:34.321
<v Speaker 2>seven people signing a petition is a huge. Number many

0:34:34.361 --> 0:34:37.881
<v Speaker 2>of the people who attended parties At aaron's house during

0:34:37.921 --> 0:34:40.561
<v Speaker 2>the week That aaron was there with his family's bodies

0:34:41.121 --> 0:34:44.520
<v Speaker 2>have commented on social media that they they are afraid

0:34:44.761 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 2>that When aaron gets, out that he'll remember that they

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:51.321
<v Speaker 2>talk to the. Police does the fact that he continues

0:34:51.361 --> 0:34:56.801
<v Speaker 2>to deny the killings mean that he has disassociated himself from, them.

0:34:56.281 --> 0:34:57.520
<v Speaker 3>Or that he has no.

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<v Speaker 2>Remorse as the clock ticks down to his, release the

0:35:01.881 --> 0:35:08.361
<v Speaker 2>community continues to be. Divided I'm Katherine. Townsend this Is

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0:35:15.601 --> 0:35:19.241
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