WEBVTT - John Edward: Stop Trying to “Move On” After Loss (Use THIS Daily Practice to Make Peace Without the Answers) 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:02.040 I don't think anybody needs a reading. Nobody really wants 0:00:02.040 --> 0:00:04.160 to stay with me. They want their loved one friends 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:05.760 to be here in the physical world. I want people 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:07.560 to recognize that a medium is not going to fix 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:07.960 their creed. 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:10.799 John Edward, Welcome to on Purpose. 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:12.000 Thank you for having me. 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:14.280 It's great to have you here. It's not every day 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.720 I get to sit down with a psychic medium and 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.200 to dive into your mind, to dive into your work, 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.200 to learn more about an area that I'm curious about 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:26.759 as a form of healing and growth for people who 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:29.120 need it and seek it out. And I think my 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:33.240 first question to you is what do most people come 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.559 to you searching for? What are they seeking when they 0:00:35.560 --> 0:00:36.000 come to you. 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:39.280 When a client first decides that they want to see 0:00:39.280 --> 0:00:41.960 a medium, they are thinking, I want to make that 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:44.640 connection back with the person who's left the physical world. 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:49.200 That seeking of what they think is closure is actually 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.960 really connection. So I think what they think they are 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:55.639 seeking as closure when it becomes the connection. I want 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.000 people to recognize that there's a survival of consciousness, that 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:00.560 life and love eternal, and that medium is not going 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:02.320 to fix their grief. So that's what they think that 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:03.920 they're coming for like they're going to be healed, They're 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.839 going to be fixed, and I think truth be told, 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:10.560 it's going to actually set them on a path of discovery. 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.039 How many people are disappointed that they're not going to 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.000 get fixed and healed when they realize that's not the process, 0:01:16.400 --> 0:01:18.920 And how many people continue to actually say, no, I'm 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:20.959 going to commit to this next phase. 0:01:21.120 --> 0:01:23.000 I don't know what the numbers would be, but I 0:01:23.040 --> 0:01:26.440 can go by feeling right. I think that in every reading, 0:01:26.520 --> 0:01:29.600 no matter how amazing the information may be, you're always 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.880 starting as a deficit because nobody wants to say with me. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:34.240 Nobody really wants to stay with me. They want their 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.480 loved one and friends to be here in the physical world, 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.880 So we're already starting at a deficit. I think that 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.559 there's an expectation that somebody has when they go for reading. 0:01:43.920 --> 0:01:46.040 I need to hear this, they need to say this, 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.720 I need to know this, and then that kind of 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:51.800 reflects back to them. Then I'll be okay, And they 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.280 may not hear that. They may not hear from the 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:56.600 person that they want to hear from, or they may 0:01:56.600 --> 0:02:00.040 hear from multiple people. So there's always a level of 0:02:00.680 --> 0:02:03.800 expectation management. And I think disappointment that comes into a 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.760 reading is that I always want people to be like, hey, 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:09.560 if you're not ready for this, don't go, like, process 0:02:09.600 --> 0:02:11.760 your grief in a different way, because you can't make 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.080 someone come through, and you cannot make them say the 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:15.240 things that you want them to say. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:18.200 Yeah, when people are coming, are they usually coming because 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:22.040 they feel there was something I didn't say or something 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:25.200 I didn't hear, or is it that I just missed 0:02:25.240 --> 0:02:28.119 that person and I want to access them if they 0:02:28.160 --> 0:02:32.960 had some sort of dream, experience revelation, like where's that 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.040 need coming from for humans to want to connect with 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.160 someone who's passed on? 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:39.359 I think it's all of the above. I think people 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:43.120 want to know that they're okay. I'd start there. The 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:46.680 physical death process takes them away from us, and as 0:02:46.720 --> 0:02:48.639 a result of taking them away from us, it makes 0:02:48.720 --> 0:02:51.239 us feel absent, it makes us feel empty, it makes 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:55.360 us feel vulnerable, and now I want to know are 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:57.600 they okay? So what I want people to know is 0:02:58.040 --> 0:03:01.560 they are okay, but we are not the grieving or not, 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:05.520 and we're projecting onto them our not being okay. And 0:03:05.560 --> 0:03:07.320 I think the process of them coming through is to 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:10.480 help a usuage some of that to say, no, I'm okay. Now, 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.840 let's work on you, like I'm okay, let's work on 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.400 what my passing has now done. What are the obstacles 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:17.600 in the blockages that are coming? 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.520 Yeah, you know, you're very open to skeptics, and I 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.840 can imagine anyone who's listening or watching right now is 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:26.760 just like, Jay, why are you doing this? What's the point? Like, 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:29.720 none of this works, it's not real to make believe. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.080 And you've probably heard every excuse in the book or 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:35.320 every thing in the book, because you've done this for 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.520 a long, long, long, long long time. What has been 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:43.960 your approach to meeting a skeptic who right now is 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.960 going that is just not true, that's not possible. 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.360 My approach is to come on the journey. And what 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.800 I mean by that is I was that person. So 0:03:51.880 --> 0:03:53.320 at a very young age, I had a reading that 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:55.960 put me on this path, and I had no choice 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.480 but to come to the understanding that this woman was 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.480 legitimate with what she was doing, because there's no way 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:02.520 possible that she could have known what she had known. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:04.520 I ruled oubt that it was mind reading for the 0:04:04.560 --> 0:04:06.960 simple reason that she could not have known something that 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:08.640 was going to happen when it wasn't in my mind 0:04:08.640 --> 0:04:11.280 if I didn't know about it. So I'm an analytical 0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:14.240 person and I was like, okay, I need to understand 0:04:14.240 --> 0:04:16.520 what this is. How did she do this? And this 0:04:16.560 --> 0:04:18.440 woman told me that I had this ability and that 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.000 in that first reading that I had with her, she said, 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.040 you're going to change the way millions of people look 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.600 at this subject matter. I was fifteen years old. You know. 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:27.680 When I jokingly say, it's like she could have said, 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:29.960 I parked my spaceship in the backyard and I'll take 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.359 you for a spin when we're done, right. It was 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:35.400 like analogous to that. The reality is that sent me 0:04:35.400 --> 0:04:37.479 out a journey and I became a seeker. And I 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.839 think that when we were seekers, that leads to exploration. 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:42.120 And my exploration took me to the public library where 0:04:42.120 --> 0:04:44.400 I read every book back in nineteen eighty five on 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:49.680 the Occult, and I was insatiable with information and my discovery, 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:53.320 which raised my awareness was this is common sense, like 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:55.880 everybody has this. This isn't psychic, this is just basic, 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.080 like you know, we all do this. So I started 0:04:58.080 --> 0:05:00.400 asking questions. Was I would ask my high schoo friends. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.400 Haven't you ever seen your deck grandfather? The answer was no. 0:05:03.800 --> 0:05:06.039 I said, you've never had an apparition? The answer was no. 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.159 Have you ever had dreams I came through? The answer 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.320 was no. So I started to recognize that maybe my 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:14.440 understanding of myself at that time I needed to reframe 0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.919 certain things. Then I went into the active development part. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:20.760 But before that, I was the person who was debunking 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:23.080 the people that came to my grandmother's house to do readings. 0:05:23.200 --> 0:05:26.120 So I get it. But there is a difference between 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.719 skepticism and cynicism. Skepticism says I'm not sure, show me. 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:33.560 Cynicism says I'm sure. No matter what you show me, 0:05:33.960 --> 0:05:35.920 I'm not going to believe you. And I think that 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:38.640 you can't give somebody a belief system. And I'm down 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.080 with people being skeptical. The only part that I think 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:43.880 is not cool is when somebody defines a person's personal 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:47.800 motivations because they don't know me. So, you know, I've 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:52.440 had every possible scenario, you know, scammer, fraud, con grift, 0:05:52.480 --> 0:05:54.960 or you name it. They kind of like fall off me. 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.760 Now forty years of doing this, you're kind of like 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.600 it is what it is. But the reality is, I've 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:03.599 put myself through positions of being studied and tested. I've 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:09.320 read for people in positions I've made sure that when 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:13.920 I read, I'm giving information, not philosophy. So I just 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:15.760 want people to come on that journey. You know, many 0:06:15.800 --> 0:06:17.320 years ago, there was a woman who sent me a 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.120 letter and I hope I get this correctly. She was 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:24.800 an insurance fraud investigator and she kind of took it 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:27.719 on herself, like I don't like him, I'm gonna like, 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:30.159 I'm gonna use my skill set and I'm gonna follow 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:32.960 him around. And so she came to different events. But 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.800 before she did that, she went to the Skeptical Society 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:39.159 meetings and she was armed with what the things to 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.200 look for, and so she was looking for, you know, 0:06:42.440 --> 0:06:46.599 reading body language, verbal intonation cues, and most importantly, she 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:48.360 wanted to see if the same people were being read 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.200 in different cities that they were like you know, actors 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:53.960 that were connected. When all was said and done, she 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:57.240 wrote me this amazing letter and she said, Wow, I'm 0:06:57.240 --> 0:07:01.000 more concerned about the negative committation that people are putting 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:04.320 out about what you're doing then the reality that you 0:07:04.360 --> 0:07:06.640 are just doing what you're doing. And I'm still friends 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.840 with her, like twenty five years later, right, and I remember, 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:11.720 like I got that letter and I just called her 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:13.280 up and I was like, a name is Marsha. I 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.120 was like Marcia and she's like who is this. I'm 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.640 like it's Jrawn Edward and she's like, oh, I said, 0:07:17.680 --> 0:07:18.920 I just wanted to personally say thank you for the 0:07:19.000 --> 0:07:23.080 letter because she did her due diligence. She came, she watched, 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.800 she saw, and I think that when people do that 0:07:26.680 --> 0:07:31.320 with legitimate mediums, I think they will think differently because 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.160 it's basically showing them that there's a process that's happening here. 0:07:34.680 --> 0:07:36.400 That is not to say that there aren't a ton 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:39.120 of other people that are out there. Go on TikTok, 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:42.200 you'll see them right, go on Instagram and YouTube and 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:46.200 they're there. I see them. I blocked them constantly. Skepticism 0:07:46.320 --> 0:07:48.560 is helpful, so I want everybody to have that, but 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:52.920 be objectively skeptical. Don't be judgmental and skeptical. 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.520 What are the studies that you said that have been 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:59.240 done on you to help prove or show some of 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:01.800 the capability that you have. What would we see if 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.680 we studied your brain, or what's being scanned, what's being 0:08:04.720 --> 0:08:05.120 looked at. 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:07.720 So the cool part for me is back in nineteen 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.120 ninety nine, HBO was doing a documentary called America on 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:12.680 the cover Life After Life, and it was produced by 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:17.000 Linda Ellerby and her production company, Lucky Duck Productions. And 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:19.800 I had not done a lot of television. I was 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:21.560 mostly a radio guy. I love radio because it was 0:08:21.560 --> 0:08:24.200 like interactive and live. But then they said that doctor 0:08:24.240 --> 0:08:25.840 Gary Schwartz was going to be part of this and 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:30.000 he was going to study this. He wanted to study us, 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.000 you know, Harvard Yale guy right, And I would sink, like, 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:36.000 how do I not do that? Like one, I have 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:39.000 a science mind, Like I like data, So I'm like, 0:08:39.040 --> 0:08:41.240 how do I not do this? And then a colleague 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:43.240 of mine was invited. Her name is Susanne Northwrop, and 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:45.360 I was like, Susanna, are you doing this? And She's like, 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.560 how do we not do this? She's like and you know, 0:08:47.600 --> 0:08:50.280 her joke was, how do we not sit in the seat? 0:08:50.520 --> 0:08:52.640 You know, how do you not put yourself in the seat. 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:56.960 So it was myself and gaym in, Susanne Northrop, George Anderson, 0:08:57.200 --> 0:09:00.640 and Lri Campbell. We were like five people that were 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:03.720 you know, laborats basically, and what they were doing is 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:08.600 they were looking at EEGs EKGs and they the first 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.400 testing that we did, which was on the documentary, they 0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:13.200 put the woman that we read and they kind of 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:15.720 looked at the data that came through. And then in science, 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.600 when you do additional testing, as you know that they 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:20.200 have to replicate and extend data points. So we did 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:23.079 that and they introduced something called the silence sitter experiment. 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:24.679 And then the third time we did that, there was 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:27.120 another layer that they added in and then he compiled 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:32.120 all that data and it ruled out that body language, verbalignations, 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.520 like all of the things that the quote unquote cynics 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:37.440 would say we're doing, they were able to establish no, 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:40.400 we're not. And here's the data. That book was written. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:44.120 It's called the air Flife Experiments. And I foolishly thought, 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:46.280 like when the studies came out and when the book 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:49.000 got published, I was like, Okay, we're going to take 0:09:49.000 --> 0:09:50.680 this work to the next level now like people are 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:53.520 going to go like, okay, there's like science. Oh no, 0:09:54.240 --> 0:09:57.920 they attacked the scientists. Now the scientist was crazy. And 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:01.760 it was that moment where I recognized it doesn't matter, right, 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:04.000 twenty percent of the population, you're going to believe. Twenty 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.160 percent of the population, I'm not going to believe. And 0:10:06.200 --> 0:10:09.040 some people fall you know, somewhere within that range. So 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.559 that's why I came to the place of be skeptical, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.440 question everything, so they're not taking advantage by people who 0:10:14.520 --> 0:10:16.800 are claiming to do this and can't make sure you're 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:20.000 getting information and validation evidence that that person is talking 0:10:20.000 --> 0:10:22.360 to your relative and they're not just giving you philosophy. 0:10:22.679 --> 0:10:25.400 And I travel around the world, I do events constantly. 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.240 The first part of my events are always to establish 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.720 that because I want to protect people from like, you know, 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:32.280 anybody who walks in front of a crowd of people 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.240 and says, who here connects with a butterfly? Well, guess what, 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:38.480 somebody's going to connect with a butterfly? Right, Every afterlife 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.280 book has a butterfly on it because it's the quintessential transformation. 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:43.920 So I try to do the debunking of my own 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.719 field while raising the bar and kind of trying to 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:48.880 put out there what I think people should be looking for. 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:50.719 In my professional opinion. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.040 Yeah, I think that's the natural consent people have, is 0:10:53.080 --> 0:10:56.720 that the human mind can project anything back onto itself. 0:10:57.080 --> 0:11:00.000 So when you say butterfly, yeah, it's like every single 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:03.160 person and the room is thinking of that exact moment. It's 0:11:03.160 --> 0:11:05.040 almost like saying, don't think of a pink elephant, and 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:08.120 then naturally the whole room is thinking about a pink elephant. 0:11:08.120 --> 0:11:09.360 Well, what I do is I stand in front of 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.280 the crowd and I'll say I'm going to disappoint all 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:13.080 of you right now, and they kind of get that 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:15.440 look of like what I'm like, here's what I'm not 0:11:15.600 --> 0:11:18.400 talking about. And then I say, instead of me telling you, 0:11:18.440 --> 0:11:20.320 I'm going to show you why, and I go, who 0:11:20.400 --> 0:11:23.880 here connects with butterflies and that's your sign? And then 0:11:23.920 --> 0:11:27.080 people raise their hand. And then I go through cardinals 0:11:27.120 --> 0:11:30.640 and hummingbirds and dragonflies and finding pennies, dimes and quarters, 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.800 and then I go through feathers, and then I talk 0:11:32.840 --> 0:11:35.840 about seeing eleven eleven and then other iteration of numbers. 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:38.280 By the time I'm done, ninety percent of the room 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:40.680 has raised their hand, and I'm like, all of that's 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:42.439 off the table. I'm not going to bring it up. 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:46.000 When we make connections today, we're going to go deeper 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.480 and you may have to think about something that's not 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:51.160 on your top ten list of what you want to hear. 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:53.120 But as long as it's the fact in a validation, 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:55.240 then it sudden you know that it's them coming through. 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.400 A lot of times, it's really trivial stuff. By the way, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:12:00.240 conversations has just happened, things that you know they did 0:12:00.280 --> 0:12:02.800 when nobody else was around. But it supports that there 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:04.679 is a survival of consciousness and that our loved ones 0:12:04.679 --> 0:12:06.559 and friends are still part of what we're doing. 0:12:06.880 --> 0:12:08.559 I want to talk about sessions with you what they 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.320 look like, because I almost want to have a conversation 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.560 that helps people understand what the process looks like and 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.079 feels like. And I was talking to my producer, I 0:12:16.160 --> 0:12:17.760 know how to call with you before we book this 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:20.200 and everything. So she was saying to me that when 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:22.040 you were on zoom with her, you asked her if 0:12:22.480 --> 0:12:25.440 you could read her quickly or whatever the right language. 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:28.880 Is that accurate? And she said, you asked her a 0:12:28.920 --> 0:12:32.320 question like who's Chris, And Chris happens to be her 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:33.719 ex boyfriend. 0:12:33.840 --> 0:12:34.920 Remember this, I did this. 0:12:34.920 --> 0:12:38.680 And and she'd spoken to him like she'd had an 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:40.560 interaction with him, like two days before that. She was 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.880 telling me okay, and it was just like, there is 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.240 nowhere that you could have reset that. Her page is 0:12:46.240 --> 0:12:49.520 a private page on social media, so you couldn't find 0:12:49.559 --> 0:12:52.440 it there. What are you experiencing? I want to know, 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:56.920 like almost how things revealed to you, because that feels. 0:12:56.960 --> 0:12:58.800 When she was telling me that story, I was just like, 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:01.000 that's incredible, Like that's that's. 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:03.200 You should come to an event then, yeah, that's that's 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.280 just the tip of the iceberg of like flayers of 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:06.040 like what comes through. 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:07.800 But I was just thinking. I was like, there's no 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.520 way unless you were family friends of a distance and 0:13:10.559 --> 0:13:12.600 you knew something. It's a it's a really hard thing 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:13.439 to pull off for somebody. 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:16.000 That that's the good skeptical part, Like that's where I 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:18.320 want people to have, right, so I see here and 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.400 feel energy. My abilities are a clairvoyance, clear audience, and 0:13:21.400 --> 0:13:24.160 clear sentient and what that is, Yeah, well that translates it. 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.199 They're like French words clare audience means clear hearing, Clairvoyance 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.320 means clear seeing, claire sentience means clear feeling. And this 0:13:30.360 --> 0:13:32.600 is where I jokingly say, there's absolutely nothing clear about it. 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.559 You know, it should be like cloudy seating cloudy, hearing, cloudy, 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:40.199 cloudy feeling. And then in this kind of like downloaded vibe, 0:13:40.679 --> 0:13:44.200 I'm basically telling you what it is that I'm seeing, hearing, feeling, And. 0:13:44.400 --> 0:13:46.199 So did you see the name Chris? Did you hear it? 0:13:46.400 --> 0:13:48.720 We heard it. I've probably heard it right where it's 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:50.760 like a download. So let me give you an example 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:52.640 of what that means. You know, when you're reading a 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:56.319 book where you're reading something, but your mind goes someplace 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.120 else and you're thinking about something else, and then you 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:01.040 have to go back and read read what it was. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.440 That's what it's like. So it's not an out loud voice. 0:14:04.679 --> 0:14:07.800 Nobody's yelling Chris. You know, it's like, I have two 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.959 thoughts that are happening. So maybe somebody's asking me a question, 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:12.800 and while she's asked me the question, it's like Chris, 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.000 I'm like, can I ask you? Like, who's Chris? And 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.240 in the case of a reading, it's just a lot 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:20.240 of that, and then I put myself on the zone 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:24.160 of receiving and my style of reading actually changed from 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:27.040 the University of Arizona Studies because the second time we 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:29.720 went out there, they said we're going to do something 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:33.800 called the silent sitter experience, and I'm like, okay, great, 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.360 what does that mean? And they said, you're going to 0:14:36.400 --> 0:14:38.600 sit there, they're going to put the person behind you, 0:14:39.000 --> 0:14:42.200 and for the first ten minutes of the reading, they're 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.640 not going to talk. And I about had collitis in 0:14:45.680 --> 0:14:47.040 that moment, and I went, what do you mean they're 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:48.720 not going to talk? And they said, we want to 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.880 see if you can get information without the person having 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:55.080 to say anything to you. And I remember thinking, I 0:14:55.080 --> 0:14:56.920 don't think I can do that, Like I think I 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.640 need them to validate like what's coming through So like 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:04.400 an athlete goes into training for a competition months leading 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.160 up to that. All my clients when they would come 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:08.360 to me, i'd be like, hey, listen, I have to 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.880 go through this like science testing. Can you not talk 0:15:10.920 --> 0:15:12.920 for the first ten minutes? Can you try not to 0:15:12.920 --> 0:15:16.560 say anything? And they would be like okay. And I 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:19.360 recognized that I was already doing it. I just didn't 0:15:19.360 --> 0:15:21.480 know that I was doing it because I would stop 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:23.400 people from trying to say something because if they gave 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:25.440 me a bias, it might take me in the wrong direction. 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.800 I'm also like by habit, and I have to stop 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.040 myself from doing an interviews, like, while I'm talking to somebody, 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:34.240 I will drift over to a blank wall because what 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:37.920 I do is I focus on a blank wall to 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:40.520 see what I'm seeing in my mind's eye. So when 0:15:40.560 --> 0:15:43.440 I did my TV show Crossing Over, I didn't design this, 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:44.760 but they came up to me and they showed me 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:47.120 the sets. And the original set of Crossing Over had 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.000 these big white sales all around the room, and I thought, 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:52.680 why did you guys put those there? And they because, oh, 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.880 we thought that it looked great, and you know, these 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:58.880 amorphous shapes, and I'm like, perfect, That's where I would focus. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.880 So I didn't look at the clients. So that's how 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:03.520 information comes through. I see it, I hear it, and 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:04.080 I feel it. 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:07.440 And do you believe that anyone can go from cloudy 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:11.520 to clear thinking, hearing and seeing or is that something 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.440 that you uniquely Obviously the medium mentioned to you at 0:16:15.440 --> 0:16:18.880 fifteen that you had that could we all fine tune 0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:19.960 ourselves to that level? 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:21.720 Or is that I think we can all find tune 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:24.240 ourselves to our level? Right, And there are a lot 0:16:24.320 --> 0:16:27.000 of people that you know, with the success of Crossing 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.640 Over and with the success of what I've done, I 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.720 have had a lot of people like come out psychic medium, 0:16:33.160 --> 0:16:35.280 and I don't believe that they're all psychic medium. I 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:39.680 think that they might be ridiculously psychic and they would 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:44.200 probably be better numerologists, tower readers, astrologers. But because they saw 0:16:44.240 --> 0:16:46.920 popularity with the word medium, they were like, oh, psychic medium, 0:16:46.920 --> 0:16:50.080 but they're flipping cards psych psychic medium, but I'm doing astrology. 0:16:50.400 --> 0:16:53.120 It's like, no, do what you do. And I come 0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.200 out of a health care background, so for me, it's 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.960 like you have different specialties, right, So you have your doctors, 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:00.840 you have your general practitioners, and then you have surgeons. 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:04.640 So a medium is like a specialty of being a psychic. 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:08.399 I think every person that does whatever metaphysical practice that 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:11.280 they're doing is tapping it to their intuition, and it 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:14.080 gives them a framework, a boundary, something to work within. 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:16.399 So I think everybody can do that. My goal is 0:17:16.400 --> 0:17:18.080 to get people to look at life through an energetic 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:21.600 lens and not to think that they need the medium. Right, 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:23.560 if you could raise your awareness to a point of 0:17:23.560 --> 0:17:27.560 paying attention to your intuition, then when you're making decisions, 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.920 you're making decisions based upon not fear but you're making 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:34.159 decisions based on a feeling of this is good for 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.679 me or this is not good for me. And I 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.439 think if most people just sit and just sit with 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:43.639 what's happening around them, they're going to go, Wow, this 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:48.159 feels not good. Maybe this is not a good person 0:17:48.200 --> 0:17:50.280 for me to be around. But then we talk ourselves 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:53.080 out of that. No, but I've known them forever and 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.159 they're you know, and our families knew each other and 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:57.440 blah blah. But meanwhile, you're the one who's keeping the 0:17:57.480 --> 0:18:00.800 relationship going. That person's not doing anything for them. So 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:02.679 I think if people sit with what they're feeling and 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.680 they're true to what they're feeling, they can make better 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:08.080 informed decisions. So I would want people to look at 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.159 life through an energetic pair of classes. 0:18:10.400 --> 0:18:13.480 Yeah, and then the next thing my producer said was 0:18:13.520 --> 0:18:17.520 that you asked her if she had any experience with 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.600