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Speaker 2: The Fifth Hour with Ben Maller starts right now in the.
Speaker 1: A every way you have stumbled on the Fifth Hour
Speaker 1: with Ben Mahler and Danny g Radio as we kick
Speaker 1: off a very important weekend here in the middle part
Speaker 1: of May. As this is the weekend that the Eagle
Speaker 1: will land in Minnesota. We're gonna have information. If you
Speaker 1: have not heard any of the promotion for the Malor
Speaker 1: Meet and greet in Minnesota, We're gonna have information on
Speaker 1: that coming up. But I wanted to do something a
Speaker 1: little different on the podcast. I figure we have this
Speaker 1: great platform. We have thousands and thousands of people that
Speaker 1: download this podcast on a weekly basis. God bless you
Speaker 1: and thank you for that. And things that catch my attention,
Speaker 1: things that across my radar that I'm interested in. Why
Speaker 1: don't we do a little bit of a deeper dive
Speaker 1: on them and see where we can go. And one
Speaker 1: of the stories over the last couple of weeks that
Speaker 1: has popped into my head and I cannot, I cannot
Speaker 1: get it out of my head is the life and
Speaker 1: times of Bo Jackson. Now, you gotta understand that this
Speaker 1: Bo Jackson story is off the wall if you didn't
Speaker 1: hear about it, a legend in the NFL with our Raiders,
Speaker 1: the La Raiders, the Kansas City Royals back in the
Speaker 1: nineteen eighties. And Bo Jackson is now sixty years old
Speaker 1: and is suffering from a chronic medical condition hiccups. You
Speaker 1: probably say, well, hiccups are something that happens when you
Speaker 1: drink too much carbonation. You know, I had it when
Speaker 1: I was a kid, or even as an adult, back
Speaker 1: when I used to drink soda and I'd have too
Speaker 1: much Doctor Pepper, too much cherry Coke, I would have
Speaker 1: the hiccups. But there is a chronic level of hiccups.
Speaker 1: And Bo Jackson said he's had this condition for almost
Speaker 1: a year. That he's had this it's wild to me. Now.
Speaker 1: Another reason that I'm interested, not only was a child
Speaker 1: when Bo Jackson was playing and I was amazed by
Speaker 1: the ability to play in the NFL and baseball at
Speaker 1: the same time. But I started out at a very
Speaker 1: young age. As you may know or may not know,
Speaker 1: and you may not care, but I started at a
Speaker 1: very young age in radio. I was nineteen years old,
Speaker 1: so I was only a few years removed from being
Speaker 1: like a hart O fan. And one of my first
Speaker 1: assignments for the station I worked at in San Diego
Speaker 1: was to cover the California as I covered the sports scene.
Speaker 1: But at that time, Bo Jackson had gone through the
Speaker 1: major injury with the Raiders. He had retired from everything.
Speaker 1: He came back as a baseball player. He was playing
Speaker 1: for the California Angels. And here I am. I'm a
Speaker 1: nineteen year old guy, and I'm interviewing Bo Jackson. And
Speaker 1: Bo was really cool and he had a bit of
Speaker 1: a stuttering problem, but he didn't mind talking. He was
Speaker 1: very available to those dopes like me and the other
Speaker 1: idiots in the media. So I'm interested in this, and
Speaker 1: now to hear that Bo's been going through this, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know this was a thing. I didn't really
Speaker 1: know much about it. Bo talked about all these different
Speaker 1: remedies that he's going through. So I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: we need to get somebody on this podcast. I've got
Speaker 1: to learn more about this. I need to learn more
Speaker 1: about this. So we'll get into the Minnesota stuff. But
Speaker 1: before we get to that, I wanted to bring on
Speaker 1: someone who knows all and my man Danny g He
Speaker 1: turned over some rocks, he went behind some mountains, and
Speaker 1: we have got on the podcast. Right now, we're gonna
Speaker 1: welcome in MJ. Keeveman is her name, and she has
Speaker 1: forgotten more about hiccups than I will ever know. How
Speaker 1: do I know that? She is the founder, She's the
Speaker 1: CEO of a company which I believe is the only
Speaker 1: company dedicated to researching hiccups. Hello, Yes, we talk to
Speaker 1: the captains of industry on this podcast. But this boat
Speaker 1: Jackson story fascinates me, as I explained, So let's get
Speaker 1: into it right now. We welcome in MJ. Keeveman is
Speaker 1: her name. Hiccups are her game. And so before we
Speaker 1: get into the boat Jackson stuff, MJ. Tel the lay
Speaker 1: person who's listening to this podcast, like, how does one
Speaker 1: start going down a rabbit hole on the hiccups?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 1: How did this begin? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So I'm the CEO of a company called meter Health,
Speaker 3: who are a biotechnology company that's advancing science and developing
Speaker 3: solutions for the whole spectrum of hiccups, so all the
Speaker 3: way from the occasional hiccups that we're familiar with day
Speaker 3: to day to chronic kickups like the one that bo
Speaker 3: Jackson is experiencing. I got into this because I experienced
Speaker 3: what I now know were likely chronic kickups back when
Speaker 3: I was a kid. I had hiccups for about three months,
Speaker 3: multiple bouts per day, the bouts of blasts for hours
Speaker 3: at a time, for months on end, And that's what
Speaker 3: got me into this space. The more that I started
Speaker 3: researching and trying to understand what I was experiencing, the
Speaker 3: more that I realized that it's a severely unmet medical
Speaker 3: need in this space of chronic kickups. And obviously everyone
Speaker 3: thinks of hiccups is something that always goes away with
Speaker 3: time or with the use of home remedies, but for
Speaker 3: millions of people worldwide, including hundreds of thousands of chemotherapy
Speaker 3: patients per year in the US alone, hickups can be devastating,
Speaker 3: a call of life and life threatening, and we call
Speaker 3: those chronic kickups.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know. I think we all get hiccups occasionally.
Speaker 1: But I remember when I was a kid, and you know,
Speaker 1: it's always awkwardhen you're around your friends and stuff. But
Speaker 1: how how common you gave some numbers there? How common
Speaker 1: is this? Uh, you know day to day out of
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred people, how many maybe it's even
Speaker 1: more than that, But how how common is like chronic hiccups.
Speaker 3: When we talk about chronic kickups, we typically bucket them
Speaker 3: into two different categories. One are chronic kickups that last
Speaker 3: for longer than forty eight hours but are connected to
Speaker 3: when underlying medical condition or medical treatment. So, for example,
Speaker 3: patients can experience chronic hiccups related to chemote therapy for
Speaker 3: weeks on ends in relation to their chemot therapy treatments,
Speaker 3: but often those hiccups resolve once they're chemotherapy treatments stop.
Speaker 3: But on the opposite side, we have what are called
Speaker 3: intractable hiccups, and intractable hiccups are a subset of chronic
Speaker 3: kickups that last for years and years, and doctors are
Speaker 3: often unable to pinpoint and underlying cause that's related to
Speaker 3: hiccups or that's causing the hiccups. And that makes them
Speaker 3: extremely difficult to treat and also makes them prone to
Speaker 3: continuing for longer. In terms of chronic hiccups related to
Speaker 3: things like chemotherapy, millions of people experience that worldwide, but
Speaker 3: intractable hiccups only about a thousand people experience them per
Speaker 3: year in the US alone.
Speaker 1: Interesting and has anyone explained? Maybe this is out there
Speaker 1: and I'm just an idiot, but like why do why
Speaker 1: do humans hiccup? Like what is the what is the
Speaker 1: reason for that? Is there a good reason for it?
Speaker 1: Is it? Does it help some way? Like why do
Speaker 1: we do it at all?
Speaker 3: So my scientific co founder actually recently published on this,
Speaker 3: and his theory is that hiccups. Hiccups occur as a
Speaker 3: vestigial breathing pattern. So similarly to the way that we
Speaker 3: have a primary, secondary, and a tertiary cardiac rhythm, we
Speaker 3: also have primary, secondary, and tersiery breathing rhythms. Essentially, So
Speaker 3: anytime that our body is quote shocked out of a
Speaker 3: normal breathing pattern, or you feel is that you can't
Speaker 3: breathe normally, you will fall into this secondary or vestigial
Speaker 3: breathing pattern, which is a hiccup breathing pattern. He believes
Speaker 3: that that's an evolutionary response that evolved from our amphibious
Speaker 3: ancestors needed a way of bringing water in through the
Speaker 3: gills while keeping it out of the lungs. And amphibians
Speaker 3: have a flap of cartilage called the glottis that helps
Speaker 3: them do exactly that. Humans also have a glottis. So
Speaker 3: that's how we have this physiological hiccup reflex.
Speaker 1: Wow, so we can blame the fact that we were
Speaker 1: in the ocean. That's the reason. That's amazing to me.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's great.
Speaker 3: Awe, that's super interesting.
Speaker 1: That is that's wild. My mind's wandering here. But let's
Speaker 1: get to Bo Jackson. I want to I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to you about Bo specifically. You know, I do
Speaker 1: a sports show and a lot of people even though
Speaker 1: this podcast we talked to titans of industry like yourself,
Speaker 1: but we always go through the sports windows. So Bo
Speaker 1: Jackson legendary figure in the sporting world and all that.
Speaker 1: And I saw this interview that he did when he
Speaker 1: revealed that he's had the hiccups, and he actually missed
Speaker 1: a very big event in Alabama at his old school,
Speaker 1: Auburn because he didn't want to show up because he's
Speaker 1: had the hiccups and all that for over a year
Speaker 1: and it's it's wild. And he said that he's dabbled
Speaker 1: in all these home remedies. And since you run a
Speaker 1: company and you're the CEO of a company involved in
Speaker 1: the hiccup world, I wanted to go through these and
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on if they do anything at all
Speaker 1: or they are just nonsense. So Bo Jackson said that
Speaker 1: he tried the scare technique, and uh, what exactly is that?
Speaker 1: For those that don't know, I assume it's kind of
Speaker 1: obvious that you get scared and then you stop doing
Speaker 1: the higgups, But does that work at all?
Speaker 3: That could have some scientific merit and could work for
Speaker 3: some people anytime you want to stop the hiccups, you
Speaker 3: want to essentially shock your breathing patterns back to normal.
Speaker 3: I think for a lot of people, being scared wouldn't
Speaker 3: be a subfishment stimulus for that. But it's fully possible
Speaker 3: for some people. But in Bo Jackson's case, there's almost
Speaker 3: no way that that would work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he also said he tried hanging upside down. I
Speaker 1: think if I tried to hang upside down, MJ, I
Speaker 1: would die, I would not be able to do it,
Speaker 1: But BO said, he tried that you ever heard of
Speaker 1: that working.
Speaker 3: I've actually never heard of that as a remedy before this,
Speaker 3: and I can't really think of a reason why that
Speaker 3: one would work. But yeah, I have not heard of
Speaker 3: that before.
Speaker 1: All right, he said, Now this one, I've heard of
Speaker 1: drinking water. I remember when I was a kid, they
Speaker 1: said cold water. I think was what I remember when
Speaker 1: I was younger. Does that do anything that could provide.
Speaker 3: Some stimulation to nerves in the roape, mouth or abdomen
Speaker 3: that can help reset breathing patterns, or the act of
Speaker 3: swallowing water could provide some crush So that helps you that,
Speaker 3: But for most people, even with just occasional, everyday hiccups,
Speaker 3: that's likely too beak of a stimulus.
Speaker 1: All right. Now, the other one here that he mentioned,
Speaker 1: I really need information on this, and you're the person, MJ.
Speaker 1: He said that he smelled the back end of a porcupine.
Speaker 1: He claimed, Now, what the heck is this? Where would
Speaker 1: one say, hey, this is a good idea, let's get
Speaker 1: a porcupine and that will make the hiccups go away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I genuinely have no idea when people sent me
Speaker 3: this interviewer of the article when it was initially coming out.
Speaker 3: That's what they were all pointing out I have never
Speaker 3: heard about before. I don't know if it was a joke,
Speaker 3: but I have no what a porcupine smelled like. I
Speaker 3: have no input on that own.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 1: I would think anything on that end does not smell
Speaker 1: particularly good. But why stop with a porcupine?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You can go to the zoo and there's elephants from
Speaker 1: Ryan Hose and you can just knock yourself out. The
Speaker 1: other one that I remember this is for everything. Any
Speaker 1: if you go to any of these places that have
Speaker 1: like home remedies, they'll say apple cider vinegar that apple
Speaker 1: cider vinegers like the magic elixir. So you are the
Speaker 1: number one person to talk to when it comes to hiccups.
Speaker 1: So does apple cider vinegar MJ work for the hiccups?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Apple setter vinegar can be effective for the hiccups
Speaker 3: A meter halt. We actually have a consumer product that
Speaker 3: it's a lollipop that stop stop pickups that incorporates apple
Speaker 3: cider vinegar. The problem with apple stader finger in a
Speaker 3: lot of cases is that a it's very difficult for
Speaker 3: people to drink. It tastes bad. It's kind of shocking.
Speaker 3: But also if you have things like mouthstores from chemotherapy,
Speaker 3: the acidic content of apple setter vinegar can really impact
Speaker 3: things like mouth stores. If you have trouble swallowing, that's
Speaker 3: going to be even more difficult to use. But apple
Speaker 3: set of vinegar can be effective.
Speaker 1: All right, So we've got that, and now let's get
Speaker 1: to the main event here. Jackson said that, and maybe
Speaker 1: he's already had it. We have I have not gotten
Speaker 1: an update on this as we're recording this podcast, but
Speaker 1: both said that he was scheduled to have surgery to
Speaker 1: cure the hiccups. This fascinates me, like, what what kind
Speaker 1: of surgery? Uh, you think he's obviously you don't know, Bob,
Speaker 1: But what do you think he's he's going to have
Speaker 1: done here or has had done?
Speaker 3: If I had to guess, I would say that they'd
Speaker 3: be performing a frenic nerve oblation surgery or some other
Speaker 3: kind of surgery that would clip some of the key
Speaker 3: nerves involved in the hiccup reflex. There are some other
Speaker 3: surgical or non surgical ways that doctors might approach intractable hiccups.
Speaker 3: Like that botox even is one orthodontic work can be another.
Speaker 3: So orthodonic surgery could make an impact on intractable hiccups.
Speaker 3: But my guests would be kind of clipping one of
Speaker 3: those key nerves involved in the hiccup reflex.
Speaker 1: And how long rough has that? I had never heard
Speaker 1: of this before Bow brought it up. That's one of
Speaker 1: the reasons I wanted to talk to you, is like,
Speaker 1: how how long has this procedure been around? Because I
Speaker 1: don't ever remember hearing anything about it. Maybe I'm not
Speaker 1: in that world, you're in that world, But how how
Speaker 1: long has that been around? Is that a long term thing?
Speaker 1: Is more recent?
Speaker 3: It's been more recent if you go back a really
Speaker 3: long time, so back towards just, you know, way further
Speaker 3: back in history, chronic hiccups and intractable hiccups like this
Speaker 3: have always been around. These surgical interventions are newer, so
Speaker 3: they still aren't I guess as bold documented in terms
Speaker 3: of how they work for the exact kind of surgery
Speaker 3: that people would perform. There's just not a great kind
Speaker 3: of diagnosis or treatment protocol for intractable hiccups. These are
Speaker 3: newer surgeries, but they've been around at least for decades.
Speaker 1: I got you. And is this a genetic thing or
Speaker 1: is it something that just kind of develops randomly.
Speaker 3: So there can be a variety of factors. What's interesting
Speaker 3: about intractable hiccups And the longest recorded case of intractablehiccups
Speaker 3: ever was sixty four years. They tend to occur more
Speaker 3: in men over the age of fifty. But what really
Speaker 3: makes intractable hickups tricky is the fact that they can't
Speaker 3: be linked, oftentimes to an underlying cause. So I know
Speaker 3: a lot of people who I've worked with for many,
Speaker 3: many years who have had their whole quality of life
Speaker 3: just turned around by having intractable hiccups, Because not only
Speaker 3: do the actual hiccups prevent their ability to socialize or
Speaker 3: to have a job, or to eat or to sleep,
Speaker 3: but the fact that there are so many treatment options
Speaker 3: that either only work for a brief period of time
Speaker 3: or don't work at all is also exceptionally frustrating and debilitating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so you've got your company and you're working
Speaker 1: on different solutions and all that. Do you think that
Speaker 1: we'll have like you could take a pill or something,
Speaker 1: or like, what do you think the end game if
Speaker 1: there is one to make the hiccup problem go away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that for certain cases, like patients who
Speaker 3: have chronic hiccups from chemotherapy. We're developing a pill for
Speaker 3: that now. But in terms of intractable hiccups, that could
Speaker 3: be something like a medical device that could also be
Speaker 3: a pill. Trick I think in the case of intractable
Speaker 3: hiccups is to minimize pickups as a symptom, if you will. So,
Speaker 3: Obviously hiccups can be a disease in their own right,
Speaker 3: but you want to stop someone from hiccupping while also
Speaker 3: being able to diagnose what might be causing the underlying hiccups.
Speaker 3: So I think managing hiccups on medication, to manage hiccups
Speaker 3: that are intractable, is important. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was checking out your website and then you'd mentioned
Speaker 1: the like the lollipop, which is not a lollipop. It's
Speaker 1: it's a medical I guess thing, right, it's to help
Speaker 1: the the Uh, how is it different? I guess I'm
Speaker 1: looking at it here, it looks it looks not bad
Speaker 1: at all, Like, what what makes it so magical?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the lollipops are only meant for occasional hiccups. So
Speaker 3: those are the types of pickups that we get from
Speaker 3: drinking alcohol, eating something too fast, et cetera. So hiccups
Speaker 3: that only last for under forty eight hours. And what
Speaker 3: helps the pop work is both the blend of ingredients
Speaker 3: inside the pop that can send us signal back to
Speaker 3: your brain stem where our central pattern generator for breathing
Speaker 3: is and reset breathing patterns back to normal, but also
Speaker 3: the actual mechanism of sucking on a lollipop can help
Speaker 3: send that signal as well. It's important to note that
Speaker 3: the kind of stimulus or the signals sent by the
Speaker 3: lollipop are not strong enough for cases of chronic hiccups,
Speaker 3: like for bojaction, for example. You need something much stronger
Speaker 3: to continue to help reset breathing patterns back to normal.
Speaker 1: I also saw you had you had a great some
Speaker 1: great stats on this, which I didn't know about until
Speaker 1: I looked at your website, but they said that a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago was the third most searched on Google.
Speaker 1: The third most searched healthcare term was related to hiccups.
Speaker 1: Like this is a big Yeah, it's wild. That's wild
Speaker 1: to me. Why do you think that is?
Speaker 3: Everyone experiences hiccups, and I think that it's a more
Speaker 3: prevalent problem than many of us are led to believe.
Speaker 3: I've found that hiccups are kind of a double edged
Speaker 3: sword in a way that if you get occasional hiccups frequently,
Speaker 3: or if you've had chronic hiccups, then you can empathize
Speaker 3: really well with someone who is also experiencing chronic hiccups
Speaker 3: or hiccups that are really upsetting their everyday life. But
Speaker 3: if you only get hiccups, maybe like once every two
Speaker 3: years for thirty seconds, then you're way less likely to
Speaker 3: be empathetic to someone who is going through that. But
Speaker 3: I think it's a more prevalent problem than most of
Speaker 3: us have been led to believe, especially in these medical spaces.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, I don't really get the hiccups at on.
Speaker 1: My wife, though she gets some, you know, fairly off.
Speaker 1: So she's like, I've gone through most of the home remedies,
Speaker 1: Like I've done most of the home remedies myself, So
Speaker 1: I might have to look into those lollipos. But if
Speaker 1: people want to know more, MJ. You run. You're the
Speaker 1: CEO of the company. People stumbled on this podcast and
Speaker 1: they want to get more information, like what's the website?
Speaker 1: Where can they go and find more information out about
Speaker 1: all this stuff?
Speaker 3: Do you want to know more about chronic hiccups in
Speaker 3: our work in that space, you can go to meeter
Speaker 3: health dot com et r health dot com. If you
Speaker 3: want to look into Hiccapops, the lollipops at stock pickups,
Speaker 3: you can go to hiccapops dot com. We're also available
Speaker 3: on Amazon Outstanding.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for your time, m JA. I
Speaker 1: appreciate it, Thank you, thank you so much. Appreciate that.
Speaker 1: So turning the page. And this is a big weekend.
Speaker 1: As we said here at the start of this podcast,
Speaker 1: as it is meet and Greet weekend today later today,
Speaker 1: on this Friday, I will be taking off and flying
Speaker 1: from Los Angeles in the Minnesota. I'm excited about This
Speaker 1: can be a fun weekend in Minneapolis and Saint Paul
Speaker 1: and plan on spending a lot of time in the
Speaker 1: great outdoors. Looking forward to that and hanging out. But
Speaker 1: the main event is going to be the Malord Meet
Speaker 1: and Greet. We've done a podcast on this, we had
Speaker 1: spin cycle Regina on not that long ago, but I
Speaker 1: wanted to remind you maybe you haven't listened to that
Speaker 1: podcast or you've heard me mention the meet and greet.
Speaker 1: You've also likely heard random people call up and ask
Speaker 1: for information about the Mallard Meet and greet and all that.
Speaker 1: So let me give you the details again in case
Speaker 1: you are considering going, if you're in the greater Minneapolis
Speaker 1: area or reasonable driving distance. So there are some people
Speaker 1: that have told me they're planning on flying in and
Speaker 1: they want to be part of this, and I'm very
Speaker 1: grateful to those people, but I am also realistic that
Speaker 1: for most people, if we are geographically desirable and it
Speaker 1: fits in your schedule, you may consider coming out and
Speaker 1: hang out with us. But let me tell you what
Speaker 1: we've got planned. So nobody else has this content where
Speaker 1: the only podcast that's talking about the Mallard Meet and greet.
Speaker 1: Why would anyone else talk about this? But anyway, So
Speaker 1: the Mallard Meet and greet is going to take place
Speaker 1: at the Mermaid Inn and Event Center. That's two twenty
Speaker 1: Mounds View So two two zero zero, I guess that's
Speaker 1: twenty two hundred, twenty two hundred Mounds View Boulevard in
Speaker 1: beautiful Moundsview, Minnesota. It is going to be tomorrow, which
Speaker 1: is Saturday. Unless you're listening to this podcast at a
Speaker 1: different time, it may have already happened. But the event
Speaker 1: is scheduled for May twentieth, which, as we are doing
Speaker 1: this podcast here on a Friday, that would be tomorrow.
Speaker 1: And the reason we are doing the podcast or the show,
Speaker 1: I should say, a meet and greet for the show
Speaker 1: from Minnesota is just to hang out, to thank you
Speaker 1: for supporting the show, and to say hello and introduce myself.
Speaker 1: And if you've never been to a Malard meet and greet,
Speaker 1: these have spanned the full spectrum. We have had crazy,
Speaker 1: drunken parties with all kinds of ridiculousness that has taken place.
Speaker 1: We have also had very small intimate meet and greets
Speaker 1: you never know, and I've heard some amazing things. The
Speaker 1: event has been put together by our friends spin Cycle Regina.
Speaker 1: She is the hostess with the mostess. She is the
Speaker 1: party planner. It is absolutely free to attend. We're not
Speaker 1: charging you to attend. I have been told in recent
Speaker 1: days to expect the unexpected. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means in the context of
Speaker 1: a Mallard meet and greet. I do know that Doc
Speaker 1: Mike is driving in from Chicago, so you got the doc.
Speaker 1: I have been told that Hollering James will be making
Speaker 1: an appearance. The Great Hollering James a legend on the show.
Speaker 1: If you don't know Hollering James work. James has been
Speaker 1: calling show for a number of years. He's got a
Speaker 1: few issues, don't we all. But James is a very passionate,
Speaker 1: hardcore Minnesota sportsman and it hasn't gone well for his teams.
Speaker 1: They all suck, but doesn't stop James from screaming and shouting.
Speaker 1: He loves being part of the show and we love
Speaker 1: having Hollering James. The reason he got the nickname Hollering
Speaker 1: James is because he was evicted from a house that
Speaker 1: he was living in because he became addicted to calling
Speaker 1: our show in the middle of the night and screaming
Speaker 1: and shouting and yelling and going bonkers, and as a
Speaker 1: result of that activity, James ended up getting evicted, so
Speaker 1: we called him Hollering James. The name has stayed. I've
Speaker 1: never met him, and I look forward to that, but
Speaker 1: I really look forward to meeting everybody, and I realize
Speaker 1: that this is always an awkward situation. I am a
Speaker 1: massive introvert. That's why I went into radio as an extrovert.
Speaker 1: I'd be in television, but I'm an introvert. And when
Speaker 1: you're an introvert, it's odd in a lot of people
Speaker 1: that listen to the show. It's kind of a weird thing.
Speaker 1: You don't even know anybody you go to an event
Speaker 1: like this. Now there are extroverts that show up, and
Speaker 1: those people always are the star of the show to
Speaker 1: these type events. But for one day, I'm going to
Speaker 1: attempt to be an extrovert, and I will try to
Speaker 1: go around the room and try to say hello to everybody,
Speaker 1: And there's always that weird thing like do you who
Speaker 1: do you approach? How do you approach them? And as
Speaker 1: much as I'd like to make this all about me
Speaker 1: because my name's in the title Malard Meet and Greet,
Speaker 1: I would also like to point out it's really about
Speaker 1: just hanging out with like minded people, people who are
Speaker 1: also part of the tribe, the Malord militia, people that
Speaker 1: have stayed up just like you have and listen to
Speaker 1: the live radio show or used to listen a live
Speaker 1: show and now listen to the podcast, and so just
Speaker 1: kind of hang out and you can talk to other
Speaker 1: fans of the show and people that are listeners like yourself,
Speaker 1: and you can exchange different ideas. And we've had friendships
Speaker 1: that have been born out of these things in the past,
Speaker 1: and I always love when people will email me and so,
Speaker 1: you know, I met somebody at the Boston meet and greet.
Speaker 1: We're still friends. We hang out, you know, golf occasionally,
Speaker 1: or we'll go out and hang out and do some
Speaker 1: random activity. Some people even don't even they don't actually
Speaker 1: meet in person, they become friends and then they're like
Speaker 1: Facebook friends. But yeah, whatever floats your boat. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: not who am I to judge? Sometimes those are the
Speaker 1: best friends in the world, the cyber friends, not the
Speaker 1: real friends. So anyway, it's it's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. There's gonna be a live band there. From
Speaker 1: what I understand this, this is crazy. Doc Mike would
Speaker 1: like me to be the deacon, So I guess I
Speaker 1: will be the deacon if I follow that plan. And
Speaker 1: we're not charging you for money. There's going to be
Speaker 1: food available. I've never been to the Mermaid in and
Speaker 1: event centered. There's a hotel there and if you're interested
Speaker 1: in more information, or if you'd like to RSVP and
Speaker 1: you want to contact our friends spin Cycle Regina. Now
Speaker 1: you don't have to RSVP. It would be more convenient
Speaker 1: for us if you did, but I realized you might
Speaker 1: be a game time decision and it might not be
Speaker 1: something that you're willing to commit to. So either way,
Speaker 1: you can email at spin Cycle Regina at gmail dot com.
Speaker 1: She is the party planner, so you can let her know.
Speaker 1: She wants a rough estimate of how many people are
Speaker 1: going to be there. I'm told there'll be a ton
Speaker 1: of Viking fans, because why not. But there are people
Speaker 1: coming in from Wisconsin. I've been told there's some people
Speaker 1: from Iowa docs coming from Illinois. So you never know
Speaker 1: who's going to show up. We did one of these
Speaker 1: in Boston and there was a guy who's a big
Speaker 1: fan of the show who drove from Toronto. We had
Speaker 1: a guide drive from Florida with Roscoe the Parrot. David
Speaker 1: in winter Park, Florida famously showed up, which was wild
Speaker 1: to me, wild and crazy that he did that. And
Speaker 1: so you never know. But it doesn't matter whether you
Speaker 1: live right around the corner or whether you live thousands
Speaker 1: of miles away. The fact that you are taking time
Speaker 1: out of your schedule. It is the most valuable thing
Speaker 1: you have. The most valuable thing we all have is time,
Speaker 1: and you're going to spend some of that with me
Speaker 1: and the friends of the show. It does mean a lot,
Speaker 1: and so I look forward to meeting you. Hopefully you'll
Speaker 1: be there if you can make it be great. We've
Speaker 1: got fresh podcasts all weekend. We'll have myself and Danny
Speaker 1: g will be united together on the Saturday podcast, and
Speaker 1: then on Sunday, of course the mail Bag and I'll
Speaker 1: be hanging out in the Twin Cities a couple of
Speaker 1: extra days to get a little more flavor and try
Speaker 1: to become a master of the Juicy Lucy, a ninja
Speaker 1: of the Juicy Lucy the Great Burger which is very
Speaker 1: popular and known as the Minnesota Flair. I'm not a
Speaker 1: big seafood guest, so I'm gonna eat a lot of
Speaker 1: juicy Lucy burgers. Have a wonderful, wonderful day today. Don't forget,
Speaker 1: as always, tell a friend about the podcast. Email us
Speaker 1: questions for the mail Bag Real fifth Hour at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com, Real fifth Hour at gmail dot com, and
Speaker 1: we will talk to you tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow, have a
Speaker 1: wonderful day today. As Danny g would say, later alligator.
Speaker 2: Know that's later, Skater, Your outros are as bad as
Speaker 2: your basketball takes.
Speaker 3: Gotta murder, I gotta go.