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Speaker 1: about people that didn't take on student debt? What about

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Speaker 1: a high school graduate of bard money to start a

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Speaker 1: business while a classmate went to college on a student

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Speaker 1: loan and now he's getting his loan forgiven, but not

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Speaker 1: the poor guy that borrowed money to start a business.

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Speaker 1: Makes a good point, it's horribly unfair you pay off

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Speaker 1: the loan or or you know, you make decisions. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we made decisions on how we were going to spend

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Speaker 1: money from year to year because we knew our guys

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Speaker 1: were going to college and I was going to be expensive.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean a lot of families do this,

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Speaker 1: and and so you do what you do have to sacrifice.

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Speaker 1: You do have to you know, put off pleasures. At

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Speaker 1: the very least, you could have kept the money and

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Speaker 1: invested it and made more money out of that. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, it's so wrong and so unfair.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, the recipients, a lot of them,

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Speaker 1: were going to be wealthier people. You know, wealthier people

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Speaker 1: send their kids to wealthier colleges, the colleges where it

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Speaker 1: costs seventy five or eighty thousand, and they pay full

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Speaker 1: price because they don't qualify for scholarships. So you're going

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Speaker 1: to give those families a break, Well, why would you

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Speaker 1: do that? And we all have to pay the bills.

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Speaker 1: That's almost a half a trillion dollars of tax money

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Speaker 1: we all have to pay for this loan forgiveness because

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Speaker 1: the debt doesn't go away, it gets just transferred to

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Speaker 1: the rest of US. Bro. Guess who showed up outside

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Speaker 1: the United States Supreme Court today all fired up over

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Speaker 1: this debate. It's old Bernie Sanders, the US Senator from

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Speaker 1: Vermont and a couple of time presidential candidate. Let's listen

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Speaker 1: about thirty seconds of him. America, we have forty five

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Speaker 1: million Americans, young people drowning in student debt. And I

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Speaker 1: have took the people all over the country who literally

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Speaker 1: delay having a family, can't have any kids, they can't

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Speaker 1: afford a car. They can't afford the having middle class

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Speaker 1: life because they're drowning in this student debt. In America,

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Speaker 1: you should not have to face financial ruin because you

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Speaker 1: want a damn education, right Yeah, he says like he's

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Speaker 1: ready to crow. Well, you know he's also in his eighties, right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The other one that's just hyperbolean wise, there's nobody drowning

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Speaker 1: in debt. There's people make bad decisions with their money.

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Speaker 1: It's a really bad decision to borrow a lot of

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Speaker 1: money that you can't conceivably pay back. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: your fault if you're in a lot of debt. Well,

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Speaker 1: the way we read the arguments today in the Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: probably the decision will go against Biden when it comes

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Speaker 1: out in June. Can ever tell? But aggressive judges just

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Speaker 1: want to wish things to be true. Oh, it would

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Speaker 1: be so nice if everybody was forgiven their debt. But

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a fairy tale. That's not the law.

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Speaker 1: You can't have a system that works like that based

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Speaker 1: on everybody's fantasy wish list. It's it's immature and childish.

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Speaker 1: But we got more coming up, John and Ken Cafe.

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Speaker 1: I am six forty. We're live everywhere the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: There's new research out on more than three hundred adults,

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Speaker 1: and they have found that short people are more likely

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Speaker 1: to have psychopathic traits. Oh come on, well that's what

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Speaker 1: it says. They have more psychopathic traits, more narcissism. Men

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Speaker 1: or women. I bet you it's men. It's no, gender

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Speaker 1: didn't matter. It makes them more unpleasant, especially for those

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Speaker 1: who wish they were taller. It makes them be much

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Speaker 1: more showoffy, confrontational, interested in power. What a nice What

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Speaker 1: a nice thing you're piling on today. I know, keep

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Speaker 1: it coming. I can take it. I missed you yesterday. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I can tell computer freezes. I know. I didn't say

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Speaker 1: you were a psychopath. I was just reading a news story.

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Speaker 1: All right. People can connect the dots that you're drawings. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: really there is. Well, yesterday we spent some time on

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Speaker 1: the show talking about the prison system in California and

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Speaker 1: how they want to close more prisons. Their prison population

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Speaker 1: now is down to about ninety five tho it was

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Speaker 1: well over one hundred and fifty thousand not that long ago.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we can see the consequences out there.

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Speaker 1: More of these people are free in society because bills

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Speaker 1: like a B one on nine and Prop forty seven

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Speaker 1: and fifty seven, we're designed to make sure people do

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Speaker 1: not go to prisons. And then you have these legislators

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Speaker 1: in Sacramento now at the supermajority of powerful Democrats, who

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Speaker 1: refuse to move any bill along that could result in

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Speaker 1: more prison time for people, or a bill that would

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Speaker 1: actually create new prison time for prisons. We learned this

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Speaker 1: and we're going to talk about this more next hour.

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Speaker 1: But remember that fetnyl bill which was introduced that would

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Speaker 1: basically treat dealers of fetnyl where the person ends up

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Speaker 1: in an overdose situation and dies. And some of the

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Speaker 1: young people are buying drugs through social media and not

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Speaker 1: realizing that they're laced with fent sometimes can have disastrous consequences.

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Speaker 1: They want to go after them like drunk drivers. But

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Speaker 1: it got nowhere in the public safety community Sacramento because again,

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Speaker 1: we don't want anybody to be added to the prisons.

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Speaker 1: So the latest bill it's coming out of Sacramento and

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Speaker 1: it was tried last year and actually failed, was they

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Speaker 1: want to put it on the ballot to remove slavery

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Speaker 1: and involuntary servitude as punishment for crime from the state

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Speaker 1: constitution in California. It's actually passed in state placed Nebraska, Utah,

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Speaker 1: and Colorado. You can't force prisoners to work exactly right.

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Speaker 1: That is in the Code of California right now that

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Speaker 1: they can force you to work. It's a form of

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Speaker 1: rebilitation and also restitution. But Constitutional Amendment eight will be

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Speaker 1: known as End Slavery in California Act. But I like

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Speaker 1: the way they and you notice the way when you

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Speaker 1: when you see that on the ballot. Whenever you're understanding

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Speaker 1: on it's the back you're like, oh my god, slavery

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Speaker 1: is still legal. Yeah, we gotta stop. What is this China?

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Speaker 1: Why would they do that? If it's passed by two

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Speaker 1: thirds of the legislature, the States Senate, in the Assembly,

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Speaker 1: it'll be on the November twenty twenty four ballot for

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Speaker 1: us to decide um the arguments of course, or that

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Speaker 1: you should not force prisoners to do anything that they

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Speaker 1: don't want to do. Uh, people make office furniture against

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Speaker 1: the prisoners. Do they make clothing and food products of

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Speaker 1: license plates? Oh, that's going on. Thus, license plates sell equipment,

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Speaker 1: they do print services, and of course some of them

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Speaker 1: work on fire crews. They're good at license plates. Those

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Speaker 1: are those are very consistent, high quality. Do you like

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Speaker 1: the license plates? Yeah? No, I think the prisoners do

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Speaker 1: good work on that. Uh. They think that participants return

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Speaker 1: to prison twenty six to thirty eight percent less often

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Speaker 1: when they are part of some sort of work program,

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Speaker 1: of course, because they get some personal satisfaction out of

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Speaker 1: accomplishing things. Maybe I just sit in your sale and

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Speaker 1: stare no, because you turn into a into a bigger psychotic.

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Speaker 1: But if you spend your days doing something and then

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Speaker 1: there's there there's pleasure in doing a job, Well, there's

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Speaker 1: an accomplishment at the end of the day. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have fifty two license plates or whatever it is

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Speaker 1: you did now, and then you realize it's like, you

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Speaker 1: know what I could I could live and be content

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Speaker 1: when I go in the outside world. Get a job,

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Speaker 1: I'll do something every day, I'll make money. There's no

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Speaker 1: reason to be, you know, a violent idiot. Well that's

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Speaker 1: a terrible idea. Of course, it's a terrible idea because

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Speaker 1: one thing you talked about yesterday was that the prisons

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Speaker 1: are still costing a lot of money. The State Department

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Speaker 1: of Finance estimates that if there is a minimum waves

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Speaker 1: requiring with this, it could cost another billion and a

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Speaker 1: half dollars annually. Yeah, I yes, And all right, if

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Speaker 1: they give a minimum wage, then find give a minimum wage.

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Speaker 1: How about not give all the raises to the prison

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Speaker 1: guard union. Well, somebody made a good point. The money

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Speaker 1: should go to victims that they that they committed the

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Speaker 1: crimes against their wages should go to a fund. That's

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Speaker 1: a good idea too, for the victims that these people

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Speaker 1: in prison for, whether it's robberies or murders or rapes

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Speaker 1: or whatever. But there should be work, forced work incentives

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Speaker 1: to work all of that. They can give them money

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Speaker 1: to victims, they can. They can let these guys earn

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Speaker 1: it at anything, but don't get rid of it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, we got more covered up, John and ken

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Speaker 1: k if I am six forty We're live everywhere the

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