WEBVTT - How Hard Drives Work

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to tech stuff. My name is Chris Poette and

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<v Speaker 1>occasions on which we podcast is senior writer Jonathan Strickland.

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<v Speaker 1>Emily is gonna write in. She hasn't written in about

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<v Speaker 1>that in a long time. That's true, Well, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done in a long time. So today's episode comes to

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<v Speaker 1>us as a result of many, many listener males, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm not gonna read them all, but to Kara,

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan and Justin in particular, and I'm sure there were more,

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<v Speaker 1>but those were the three who popped up immediately. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>this podcast is for you. All of you guys want

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<v Speaker 1>to know how hard drives or hard disks work. So

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna talk a bit about hard drives, and not

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<v Speaker 1>just not just the old fashioned hard drives, but the

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<v Speaker 1>new fangled solid state devices as well, and throwing some

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<v Speaker 1>some other storage media. I think oh I got, I

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<v Speaker 1>got a little bit on some others, notepads, and yes,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly stone tablets, stone tablets. So let's let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the anatomy of a hard drive. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to start out with a little history.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that is even better, begin with your history, professor Palette. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you a little bit of a story. My

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<v Speaker 1>first computer wasn't Amigo one thousand, which I got in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid nineties, and it had no hard drive whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>My Apple to eat also had no hard drive. So

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<v Speaker 1>you might think that hard drives, which are now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>ubiquitous there in almost anything, including you know, uh, tablets

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, netbooks and things that that are very small,

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<v Speaker 1>you might think, well, hey, you know these have been

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<v Speaker 1>around for a very short time. Not the truth. Oh weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just thinking they were amphibious. So anyway, amphibious

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<v Speaker 1>what you said? Okay, So no, uh, hard drives actually

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<v Speaker 1>have been with us since the nineteen fifties, except they

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<v Speaker 1>were very very large. Um and uh it's apparently up

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<v Speaker 1>to in diameter and they would hold just a few megabytes,

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<v Speaker 1>which is very much like the first hard drive I

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<v Speaker 1>had in my second computer, the Mega three thousand had

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<v Speaker 1>well actually still has a hard drive that will hold uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just forty megabytes, which is very small. But

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<v Speaker 1>but these original discs were called fixed disks, or if

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<v Speaker 1>you were an IBM customer, you might know them as winchesters. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And basically the reason they're called hard hard disks are

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<v Speaker 1>hard drives is because this is in contrast to floppy disks,

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<v Speaker 1>which are you know, made of a magnetic storage medium

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<v Speaker 1>very much like uh, tape that you might see in

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<v Speaker 1>a cassette tape or an eight track tape or videotape. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But hard drives themselves getting into your into your anatomy

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<v Speaker 1>uh lecture on hard disks here. Um. Yeah, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>actually not that dissimilar because hard drives are also magnetic media, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but they are glass or aluminum or some form of

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<v Speaker 1>harder material. It's not like that filmy, flimsy stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you would see in a cassette tape. Right. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>where the hard drive or hard disk comes from. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about. It's stored on a medium that is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's not this little flimsy material. So that's another

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<v Speaker 1>thing we should talk about just very quickly, since we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about you mentioned floppy disks, which some of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners may be thinking hua a floppy disk. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners are very young, and I have not been

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<v Speaker 1>around since floppy disks kind of died. But I like

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<v Speaker 1>to think of the tech stuff audience as being you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fairly technology technologically savvy. You know, even our younger listeners

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<v Speaker 1>probably know what a floppy disk. Actually, some of the

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<v Speaker 1>very younger listeners are probably more savvy than we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason why we call them floppy disks is

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<v Speaker 1>because the magnetic medium on pond which the data is

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<v Speaker 1>stored is is flexible. Um. The disc itself may or

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<v Speaker 1>may not be semi flexible. So the old five and

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<v Speaker 1>a quarter inch discs, for example, they had a very

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<v Speaker 1>uh thin protective coating, plastic coating, uh, and you could

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<v Speaker 1>they were flexible. You weren't supposed to bend them because

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<v Speaker 1>it would screw it up, but you could. Yeah. As

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<v Speaker 1>as a matter of fact, the hard disc predates the

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<v Speaker 1>floppy disk because Alan Shugart at IBM in ninety seven, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, came up with an eight inch floppy disk.

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<v Speaker 1>UM and basically it gradually moved to a smaller disc

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<v Speaker 1>five and a quarter inches UM, and that debut in

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<v Speaker 1>in August. Um. Problem with that particular model was that

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<v Speaker 1>it had a part of the media was exposed, so

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<v Speaker 1>you could you could you know, poke it with your

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<v Speaker 1>finger or you know, a needle, or your cat could

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<v Speaker 1>throw up on it. Uh. And that's a problem because

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things happened to me in the same day.

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<v Speaker 1>That's bad day. Well, poking it with your finger is

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<v Speaker 1>not such a problem necessarily as the other two. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. If you crease it or something happens

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<v Speaker 1>to damage that material, then it makes it very difficult

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<v Speaker 1>to read. And when they came out with a three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half inch floppy disk, which is in some

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<v Speaker 1>use still in Japan, just stopped supporting it. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>this year, there's some of the supply classet here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing I know of in the office that can

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<v Speaker 1>run one. No. No, I've seen a couple of older

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<v Speaker 1>machines with it on there. Oh my gosh, they have

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<v Speaker 1>dust on them. I pity those people to use those machines,

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<v Speaker 1>but to but no, the thing is, when when those

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<v Speaker 1>came out, they put a little metal slide, said that

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<v Speaker 1>the computer when you would insert it, it would the

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<v Speaker 1>computer would move the slide over and be able to

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<v Speaker 1>read and write information to that floppy disk. And they

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<v Speaker 1>also had a harder plastic coating so that you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>fold a three and a half inch disk. Yeah, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>since we're into the alternative media thing, I will I

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<v Speaker 1>will say, you know, as as time went on, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and other formats came out. I Omega's zip drive and

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<v Speaker 1>jazz drive both removable storage media like the floppy disk,

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<v Speaker 1>just at a higher density you can hold uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a gigabyte or two on some of the heavier uh discs.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're essentially the same thing, you know, removable media. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, you know a couple other storage media that

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<v Speaker 1>were like that, that were that came in a case

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<v Speaker 1>like that, But we're optical discs. But those really fell

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<v Speaker 1>out of favor, I think with the advent of broadband

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<v Speaker 1>connections and really large hard drives. So getting back to

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<v Speaker 1>the whole hard drive issue and uh and the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that we're talking about these other forms of storage. As

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<v Speaker 1>we were mentioning they were all magnetic forms of storage, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>just like cassettes. In fact, some of the early computers

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<v Speaker 1>used cassettes rather than discs. But and and that does

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<v Speaker 1>also mean that that would also be why you did

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<v Speaker 1>not want to have your storage medium next to any

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<v Speaker 1>kind of magnet, because it would could screw up your

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<v Speaker 1>your your data. I mean, it would erase essentially your

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<v Speaker 1>data because it would everything would align to the magnetic

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<v Speaker 1>field of the magnet and you would no longer have

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<v Speaker 1>that storage. Well, I mean that's that's part of erasing

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<v Speaker 1>the information. Magnetizing. So magnets plus computers equals bad. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So you're so in all these cases, the information is

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<v Speaker 1>stored through a magnetic medium. So you've got you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the disc, and within hard disc you have we call

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<v Speaker 1>them platters. That the discs are actually platters, and there

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<v Speaker 1>may there's usually multiple platters per hard drive. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just one disk sitting inside a little metal box. If

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<v Speaker 1>you were to ever look at a hard drive, it

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<v Speaker 1>does tend to look like a little metal box. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>there are several platters within that. And so think of

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<v Speaker 1>the platters. It's kind of like a uh, I was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, a record player, but what who am I kidding?

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<v Speaker 1>Smoke gets in your eyes? A record kids? No, please,

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<v Speaker 1>those the kids. I'm saying, the kids are not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>know if I say a record player, Um, think of

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<v Speaker 1>a serious player that can hold several CDs. They still

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<v Speaker 1>make CDs, right, I haven't listened to one in ages. Okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing to mention. If you want to take a

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<v Speaker 1>part of hard drive to look at this, do it

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<v Speaker 1>with a drive that you are no longer ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to use for anything. Yea, because it'll ruin it. Because

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<v Speaker 1>it will ruin it. But if you if you take

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<v Speaker 1>a part a hard drive that is busted and will

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<v Speaker 1>no longer be used for anything, you will see that

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<v Speaker 1>there are are silver platters in there. Uh. In some

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<v Speaker 1>cases there are multiple pladders, right, Like that's what I

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<v Speaker 1>was mentioning there, yeah, yeah, And and on each deck

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a little arm that can that will

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<v Speaker 1>have the device that reads and writes data to those discs. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the difference between the the platters and say the

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<v Speaker 1>cassette medium. Uh, the device that reads and writes data

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<v Speaker 1>does not actually make contact with the disk. You do

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<v Speaker 1>not want that to happen. No, If you hear a

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<v Speaker 1>clicking noise from your hard drive, that probably means that

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<v Speaker 1>the arm, the read right arm is actually making contact

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<v Speaker 1>with the platter, which means it's damaging the hard drive

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<v Speaker 1>and you should stop using it and get it repaired

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as you can, because otherwise what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen is it's going to corrupt the data on that

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<v Speaker 1>disc or it's going to ruin the hard drive and

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<v Speaker 1>you won't be able to access the information. Right. That's

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<v Speaker 1>called a hard drive crash. Yeah, and it's bad head

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<v Speaker 1>crash actually. Yeah. So so anyway, each one of the

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<v Speaker 1>platters has of these arms, are sometimes multiple arms more

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<v Speaker 1>than one, and the arms can move towards the center

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<v Speaker 1>and towards the edge of the disk, uh dozens of

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<v Speaker 1>times per second to try and find the data. And

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<v Speaker 1>the data is stored. If you were to if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to look at a platter and you were to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to see the way data is stored, like

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<v Speaker 1>you somehow were able to dawn magic glasses and you

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<v Speaker 1>looked at the platter and like, oh, look at that.

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<v Speaker 1>You would see that the information is is organized within

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<v Speaker 1>concentric circles from the edge of the platter all the

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<v Speaker 1>way into the center. So you just think of those

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<v Speaker 1>concentric circles. Now, those are tracks, and they would also

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<v Speaker 1>be organized in wedges, so sort of like a pie

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<v Speaker 1>pie and pie. Those wedges are sectors. So data is

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<v Speaker 1>is always going to be found within a track and

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<v Speaker 1>a sector, and the computer has to keep track of

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<v Speaker 1>which sectors and try x have the data ware. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's when it's when your computer is searching for stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going through all the different sectors and tracks trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find the correct information. UM and each track within

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<v Speaker 1>a sector can only hold a certain amount of data.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like you could say, like, well, I've got

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<v Speaker 1>this two gigabyte file, I want it all to be

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<v Speaker 1>stored right here on this part of this platter. That's

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<v Speaker 1>not the way it works, good luck. Yeah, it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to break that up, uh, that file up into segments

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<v Speaker 1>and store it on various tracks in various sectors. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even necessarily going to be on the same platter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it could be. It could be uh across several platters,

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon how your data is stored. And UH as

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<v Speaker 1>this happens, as as you go on filling up a

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<v Speaker 1>hard drive, UH, these files can get more and more

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<v Speaker 1>fragmented because there are fewer sectors that have an uninterrupted,

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<v Speaker 1>you know series that you could store all the information

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<v Speaker 1>right there, so it's all within the same general area.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you want to defrag your hard drive every

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<v Speaker 1>now and then. Yeah, the more fragmented your your data get, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes it that much more difficult for your computer

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<v Speaker 1>to find all the pieces of a file, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to slow down your computing time. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea to keep everything nicely organized so that it

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<v Speaker 1>speeds you up and makes it a little less frustrating

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<v Speaker 1>to use your computer on a day to day basis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I made this this comparison in a previous podcast, but

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<v Speaker 1>so you might remember it. But think of your data.

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<v Speaker 1>Think of a hard drive as like a h a

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<v Speaker 1>multi story building, and and your data is stored in boxes.

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<v Speaker 1>But the boxes are not all in the same room

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<v Speaker 1>on the same floor. Some of your boxes are on

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<v Speaker 1>the top floor, some of them are in several rooms

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle, and then you've got one in the basement.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of the way your hard drive is working.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way it might store a file. The bits

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<v Speaker 1>of the file might be in various sections of the

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<v Speaker 1>different platters. Now these platters are spending really, really fast,

0:13:05.600 --> 0:13:09.840
<v Speaker 1>and the arms are moving very very quickly. So even

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<v Speaker 1>though it sounds like this is a real mishmash way

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<v Speaker 1>of doing it, it doesn't take relatively that long for

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<v Speaker 1>a computer to find the information. Uh. It does take

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<v Speaker 1>longer as you use the computer. That's what we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about with the whole fragment defragment thing. You may notice

0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:27.960
<v Speaker 1>as your computer ages that takes longer for you to

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<v Speaker 1>pull certain kinds of files and programs up and again.

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<v Speaker 1>Defragging your hard drive can sometimes help fix that a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. Yeah, it's not guaranteed to uh to increase

0:13:38.640 --> 0:13:42.040
<v Speaker 1>your computing speed a thousandfold or anything like that, but

0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:45.800
<v Speaker 1>it will perk things up a bit. Yeah, it's really Um,

0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:48.280
<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about here is seek time, Right. It

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<v Speaker 1>will decrease the amount of time it takes to seek

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<v Speaker 1>out that data. It's not gonna make your processor faster,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just gonna make it easier for the computer to

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<v Speaker 1>find the information that you want. Um. There's another speed

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<v Speaker 1>of information transferle that we have to talk about, which

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<v Speaker 1>is called the data rate. Now, that's the speed at

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<v Speaker 1>which the hard drive is able to deliver information to

0:14:07.920 --> 0:14:12.480
<v Speaker 1>your computer's processor. Yep um and those speeds vary depending

0:14:12.520 --> 0:14:16.480
<v Speaker 1>upon what kind of hard drive and microprocessor you have. Yeah,

0:14:16.480 --> 0:14:21.040
<v Speaker 1>the that information is useful when you're looking for a

0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.360
<v Speaker 1>hard drive if you're interested in buying a new drive

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<v Speaker 1>for your computer. UM. Also the speed at which the

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<v Speaker 1>platters spin. A lot of people prefer a faster speed. UM.

0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.840
<v Speaker 1>The trouble is that once you get into that in

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<v Speaker 1>larger drive sizes, you're starting to talk about more money um.

0:14:40.320 --> 0:14:45.480
<v Speaker 1>You know. But for things that are you know, speed oriented,

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<v Speaker 1>like for example, I don't know, gaming, you probably want

0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a faster hard drive or capturing lots and lots of video.

0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.280
<v Speaker 1>If you're capturing let's say you want to capture high

0:14:54.280 --> 0:14:58.760
<v Speaker 1>definition video you've shot You've shot a film, an HD film, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to be able to capture that video

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<v Speaker 1>onto your computer. You're gonna want a hard drive that

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<v Speaker 1>spends very quickly, that has a very big capacity because

0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.800
<v Speaker 1>HD footage takes up a huge amount of data space,

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<v Speaker 1>and you want to be able to transfer the information

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<v Speaker 1>as quickly as possible. So uh to to just to

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<v Speaker 1>speed up the whole capturing UM sequence because that takes

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<v Speaker 1>a really long time depending on the speed of your

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<v Speaker 1>computer and the connection you're using, like if you were

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<v Speaker 1>using FireWire, that's that's pretty fast. If you're using USB

0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.080
<v Speaker 1>two point oh, it's not as fast. It depends on

0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:37.360
<v Speaker 1>the FireWire, that's true. I'm talking about like I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of like the most recent USB three, assuming that that

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<v Speaker 1>ever actually gets to us in a real widespread way,

0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:49.920
<v Speaker 1>should put USB right back up there with FireWire. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>someone's going to think about that. Well, the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>they keep one upping each other. Is kind of an

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<v Speaker 1>also ran at this point. I mean, I mean, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>still really supports it, but that's about it, not even

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<v Speaker 1>as much as they used to. Yeah, but to the

0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.720
<v Speaker 1>most recent IMAX, that's a totally different subject. I should't

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<v Speaker 1>even get into it. To the best of my knowledge,

0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the more recent machines do actually that. That's that's relevant though,

0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:16.440
<v Speaker 1>because if you're talking about hooking up another drive to

0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:19.720
<v Speaker 1>your computer, like an external drive, you're gonna this is

0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.760
<v Speaker 1>again something to consider. You're gonna want a nice fast

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<v Speaker 1>data rate, and you're gonna see on professional computers, top

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<v Speaker 1>of the line PCs and MAX both are going to

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, you're you'll have more options like the

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<v Speaker 1>faster FireWire and the faster USB connections, you know versus

0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, something you might see on your consumer level

0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:40.360
<v Speaker 1>or you know, for example, a netbook or something you're

0:16:40.360 --> 0:16:42.800
<v Speaker 1>probably not it's not going to be because they're not

0:16:43.360 --> 0:16:47.960
<v Speaker 1>designed for you know, high end applications computing on the go.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So I mean it is it? Yeah, it is relevant.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, as far as I know, the Apple still

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<v Speaker 1>includes the higher higher speed one port I think on

0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.880
<v Speaker 1>the the the iMac and probably a couple on the

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:07.600
<v Speaker 1>power Max. But um, anyway, that's what they call them now,

0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.119
<v Speaker 1>the Mac pros. There we go. Anyway, someone wanted inbout

0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:14.280
<v Speaker 1>that I wouldn't know I've got an anti Mac bias. Yes, yes,

0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:18.639
<v Speaker 1>we've been told. Um so, actually, uh, it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a good time to talk about some of the drawbacks

0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.600
<v Speaker 1>of hard drives because you know, over time they've become smaller,

0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:27.600
<v Speaker 1>they've become more efficient. They there, they can be running

0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:31.440
<v Speaker 1>faster speeds. Um you say smaller, you mean smaller physically

0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:36.000
<v Speaker 1>so you can run. Well, yes, they can't hold more data. Yeah,

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.400
<v Speaker 1>but I just want to make sure we clarified smaller.

0:17:38.840 --> 0:17:44.440
<v Speaker 1>But well, let's take another Apple product into a two perspective.

0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I have a four G black and white iPod which

0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.520
<v Speaker 1>has a hard drive in it and you can hear it.

0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.199
<v Speaker 1>When you play a song, it spins up and starts

0:17:52.240 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 1>accessing the information on there, so they can tell me

0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:56.680
<v Speaker 1>what tracks are available, and I can I can listen

0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:01.080
<v Speaker 1>to a song. But Apple has moved away from physical

0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.440
<v Speaker 1>hard drives because of their limitations, like, for example, if

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<v Speaker 1>you drop one on the ground and it is still spinning,

0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.399
<v Speaker 1>it will likely start to click because it is a

0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:13.879
<v Speaker 1>very easy way to cause a head crash. Um, you know,

0:18:14.000 --> 0:18:16.720
<v Speaker 1>and they're they're not the most durable things in the world. Yeah,

0:18:16.800 --> 0:18:18.959
<v Speaker 1>they're not necessarily the kind of device you would want

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<v Speaker 1>to use if you were like, for example, the iPods

0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.080
<v Speaker 1>a good a good choice. Let's say you want to

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<v Speaker 1>do lots of exercise and stuff. Um, well, if you've

0:18:28.160 --> 0:18:30.520
<v Speaker 1>got a device that has moving parts in it, then

0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:35.240
<v Speaker 1>the jitter that it suffers as you run up and

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:39.640
<v Speaker 1>down your street or whatever. Um or being chased by vagabonds,

0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:42.679
<v Speaker 1>as is often the case with me. Um, I have

0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:45.320
<v Speaker 1>a I live in a vagabond heavy part of town.

0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:49.879
<v Speaker 1>I moved from thug Central to Vagabond Bill and it's

0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:53.400
<v Speaker 1>actually been an improvement in my lifestyle. But that's neither

0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.680
<v Speaker 1>here nor there, Jonathan. Yeah, you know, I do live

0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:00.359
<v Speaker 1>right across the street from train tracks, so that's true.

0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm hoping is listening to this Hobo love. That's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the name of my first record album. So at

0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:09.879
<v Speaker 1>any rate you've got this, If you have moving parts

0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.760
<v Speaker 1>and the device as you're jogging around, then clearly then

0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.560
<v Speaker 1>those those moving parts could suffer as a result, and

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.280
<v Speaker 1>then you could end up shortening the life of your device.

0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:21.320
<v Speaker 1>To get away from that, you would want to choose

0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.640
<v Speaker 1>some sort of memory format that did not have moving parts.

0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:26.720
<v Speaker 1>And we'll get into that in just a minute, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we want to dedicate a good amount of

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<v Speaker 1>time to solid state. But let's keep talking about the

0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I was afraid I was segway too early. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>well I was just gonna say that. We already brought

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<v Speaker 1>up the magnet thing, right right. But also just the

0:19:38.160 --> 0:19:41.200
<v Speaker 1>fact that it has moving parts. You know, it has

0:19:41.200 --> 0:19:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a motor. There's a motor that turns those platters and

0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:49.680
<v Speaker 1>the arm as well. Um, motors can break down, motors

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:53.200
<v Speaker 1>can overheat. Uh, whenever you have the moving parts, there

0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:56.200
<v Speaker 1>are certain dangers that are going to come with that.

0:19:56.280 --> 0:19:58.920
<v Speaker 1>And for most hard drives, those dangers are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be something that you'd see to prolonged use, right, Like,

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:05.680
<v Speaker 1>so older computers are more prone to hardware failure than

0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:08.560
<v Speaker 1>than computers that are fresh off the line, assuming that

0:20:08.600 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>you're not buying a limon, yes, and and hard drives

0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.120
<v Speaker 1>are you know, I'm sure a computer engineer will tell you. Um,

0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>someone had told me once that hard drive often fails

0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:23.200
<v Speaker 1>either very early in its life cycle, and we would

0:20:23.240 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>assume at that point that it's a lemon or you know,

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a couple of years down the road, probably a couple

0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.719
<v Speaker 1>is oversimplification here, but I mean it's it's it's not

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.520
<v Speaker 1>like it's immune from failure, you know, something where you

0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>really need to back up your hard drive often because

0:20:39.840 --> 0:20:42.320
<v Speaker 1>there is a possibility that something will fail. A mechanical

0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 1>engineer will tell you, as my father, who is a

0:20:44.080 --> 0:20:46.880
<v Speaker 1>mechanical engineer, often told me, the more moving parts you have,

0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:51.560
<v Speaker 1>the increased likelihood that something eventually will break, right, because

0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:54.320
<v Speaker 1>you have more points of failure exactly. So yeah, so

0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:57.920
<v Speaker 1>that's that's logical. So that kind of explains sort of

0:20:57.920 --> 0:21:01.639
<v Speaker 1>the move to the solid state drives. Yes, now, which

0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you know again iPods and zoons and I think just

0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:08.520
<v Speaker 1>about everybody who has something like that now all use

0:21:09.040 --> 0:21:11.400
<v Speaker 1>flash memory of some sort and lots of netbooks are

0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:14.080
<v Speaker 1>using it, not all, but lots of them, as of them,

0:21:14.160 --> 0:21:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and and you're starting to see it in other things

0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like laptops as well. UM, solid state is has got

0:21:20.640 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 1>a few advantages. Uh, it's it doesn't It doesn't store

0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:30.359
<v Speaker 1>data magnetically. For one thing. It's all about controlling the

0:21:30.400 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>flow of electrons, whether gates are opened or closed. Um. Yeah.

0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:39.520
<v Speaker 1>That's the electronically erasable programmable read only memory aspect of it,

0:21:39.960 --> 0:21:45.840
<v Speaker 1>or e PROM Yes. I was like what, um, yeah,

0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 1>And it has two different kinds of gates. It's the

0:21:49.680 --> 0:21:52.240
<v Speaker 1>information is laid out. Think of the information on a

0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:54.760
<v Speaker 1>flash drive. So we're talking about like the USB drives,

0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:58.640
<v Speaker 1>or say the chips that you put into a video

0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:04.560
<v Speaker 1>game controller to store ave games, a camera, yeah, cameras,

0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:09.000
<v Speaker 1>the SD cards, things like that. Um, you have a

0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:11.200
<v Speaker 1>series of transistors and they're laid out on a grid,

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:16.159
<v Speaker 1>and you've got uh floating gates and control gates, and

0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.240
<v Speaker 1>these essentially control whether or not electrons passed through that grid,

0:22:20.840 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 1>and that's what determines whether the data on that UH

0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:27.320
<v Speaker 1>in that section of the drive is a one or

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<v Speaker 1>a zero, right, And because again all information and computers

0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:35.320
<v Speaker 1>ultimately is stored as a series of ones and zeros,

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:41.200
<v Speaker 1>that would be yes, um, and then uh, you've got

0:22:41.600 --> 0:22:43.639
<v Speaker 1>so the see I what if I can remember how

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:46.520
<v Speaker 1>the rows and columns go. I know that the the

0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>row is the word line, and I think the column

0:22:49.000 --> 0:22:52.560
<v Speaker 1>is the bitline. Is that right? Um, you don't know,

0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:56.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, okay, so um uh yeah, anyway, see

0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.159
<v Speaker 1>if I have that in my home. It's been a

0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:01.680
<v Speaker 1>long time since I've actually written about solid state drives,

0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 1>and unfortunately I've been concentrating on other things. But in

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>any of the floating gates, link to the row. The

0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.000
<v Speaker 1>row is the wordline. Just do the control gate. Oh

0:23:11.040 --> 0:23:16.560
<v Speaker 1>got you? Got you okay, so uh again controlling the

0:23:16.600 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 1>flow of electrons for for bits. Now, the nice thing

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:22.480
<v Speaker 1>about solid state electronics is that they can be even

0:23:22.600 --> 0:23:25.720
<v Speaker 1>smaller than the smallest um physical hard drives, so you

0:23:25.760 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 1>don't have to have a motor, so that takes up

0:23:28.160 --> 0:23:31.960
<v Speaker 1>less space right there. Um, they're very very portable, uh,

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:35.639
<v Speaker 1>and they can hold a surprisingly large amount of information.

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I remember back when you would get

0:23:38.040 --> 0:23:42.320
<v Speaker 1>a USB drive and it might or a little thumb drive,

0:23:42.320 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 1>a little flash drive and it would be maybe a

0:23:46.680 --> 0:23:50.280
<v Speaker 1>Meg's And now you know it's no big deal. Like

0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>if when I go to conferences, a lot of these

0:23:52.800 --> 0:23:56.440
<v Speaker 1>companies will put their press material onto a USB drive

0:23:56.480 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>as opposed to giving you a six pounds of of paper. Right.

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.880
<v Speaker 1>And in these cases I get for gigabyte or larger

0:24:06.080 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 1>USB drives on occasion. Most are around two. But you

0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:14.719
<v Speaker 1>know they get bigger than that easily. Um, so it's

0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:18.320
<v Speaker 1>actually really really impressive. And they don't since they don't

0:24:18.359 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>have the moving parts, so you don't have the same

0:24:20.119 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>risk of failure as you do with a a physical

0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:27.359
<v Speaker 1>hard drive like the platter hard drive. Um, they're both physical.

0:24:27.400 --> 0:24:29.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I used that word, so please

0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:33.679
<v Speaker 1>don't write in I know they're both physical. Uh mechanical,

0:24:33.720 --> 0:24:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I guess I should say, because it has a quitter function.

0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:39.600
<v Speaker 1>The downside is that solid state electronics tend to be

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>much more expensive, so as you get to the higher

0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:51.760
<v Speaker 1>capacity drives, you start reaching, um a price point that

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.080
<v Speaker 1>is much greater than if you were to get a

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:59.679
<v Speaker 1>comparative platter system. M Um, that's the biggest drawback. I

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:03.480
<v Speaker 1>think with the solid state versus platter. Another drawback that

0:25:03.520 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>I've read about is that flash memory can only be

0:25:07.080 --> 0:25:12.080
<v Speaker 1>written to a finite number of times. Eventually it will

0:25:12.119 --> 0:25:15.920
<v Speaker 1>wear out. UM so they're not immune from failure either.

0:25:16.440 --> 0:25:19.600
<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, I I think I would avoid

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:24.439
<v Speaker 1>exposing them to you know, fire water magnets. You know,

0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:26.400
<v Speaker 1>I know they're not magnetic, but I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably a good idea to stick a you know, twelve

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<v Speaker 1>pound test magnet next to it. Of course, I have

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<v Speaker 1>an aversion to twelve pound test magnets because I had

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<v Speaker 1>a bad experience with one as a child. Yeah, we're

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<v Speaker 1>vagabonds involved. But there was a bear. Oh wow, a

0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:46.280
<v Speaker 1>bear and a wow, that's the story I need to hear.

0:25:46.400 --> 0:25:48.399
<v Speaker 1>It was a it was a grizzly encounter. Let's just

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<v Speaker 1>say that nice. Um. I also just just to go

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<v Speaker 1>back just a touch, I was right about the bitline.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go through my notes and I found

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<v Speaker 1>it so wordline, wordlines, the rose and bitlines are the um.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the grid on on the flash memory. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I mean, and the data there's is not

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<v Speaker 1>stored in the same way. Again, since we're talking about

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>electron gates as opposed to magnetic, so it's not like

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.159
<v Speaker 1>it's spread out throughout the drive the same way that

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<v Speaker 1>it is on hard disks. Um, it's uh, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting and that that's all. Might also be why when

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<v Speaker 1>you're accessing stuff from like a flash based memory system

0:26:28.400 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 1>it seems to pop up much faster. It's because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not having to search multiple locations within the drive to

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<v Speaker 1>find all the bits of that file. Well, um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just it's it's nice to see it coming down

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<v Speaker 1>in price because I think it will become more common

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<v Speaker 1>in computers. But like I said, don't assume that your

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>information is completely safe. It's always a good idea to

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<v Speaker 1>back everything up. Yeah, yeah, whether you're using another platter

0:26:54.200 --> 0:26:57.000
<v Speaker 1>system hard drive to do it, or a flash based system,

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 1>or you're storing to the cloud. If you're storing to

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<v Speaker 1>the cloud, then you don't know what kind of system

0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.480
<v Speaker 1>ultimately is going to be holding that data, nor do

0:27:05.520 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 1>you know exactly where it is as you control the

0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:09.840
<v Speaker 1>other end of that. But there is a physical system

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 1>somewhere holding it. It's not like it's not like it's

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 1>literally floating in the web and is just kind of

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.840
<v Speaker 1>free roaming until you access it. It's not quite true.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:23.439
<v Speaker 1>It actually is sitting on someone's machine somewhere that's right

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:29.080
<v Speaker 1>blinking ominously in the night. Yeah. Well that wraps up

0:27:29.080 --> 0:27:32.800
<v Speaker 1>this discussion about hard drives. I thought perhaps we should

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<v Speaker 1>address something that came to us from a little listener

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<v Speaker 1>mail and Chris, I think you have this, Yes, yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>this happened. Well, Jonathan was out on a vacation. We

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<v Speaker 1>just record the iPhone for podcast that everybody had been

0:27:47.640 --> 0:27:51.359
<v Speaker 1>emailing us about, and I made a misstatement and Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>wrote in to correct me. Thank you very much, Stephen, because,

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:57.680
<v Speaker 1>as he wrote, the Nexus one is only G s

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<v Speaker 1>M with different three G frequencies for eight T and

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<v Speaker 1>T and T Mobile, please correct. And the name of

0:28:03.400 --> 0:28:06.080
<v Speaker 1>his subject line was angry yelling, so I'm assuming he

0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>was speaking to me an angry voice of doing voice

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<v Speaker 1>to text. And it's amazing it didn't all come out

0:28:11.240 --> 0:28:15.040
<v Speaker 1>in all caps. Well, as it turns out, he was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. The last time I had looked at Google's

0:28:17.800 --> 0:28:21.199
<v Speaker 1>Nexus one page, they were still planning a version for

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Verizon but launch yes, Spring two thousand. Yes, and uh,

0:28:25.640 --> 0:28:27.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what, I hadn't been back to the page

0:28:27.840 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>in quite some time, and he's absolutely right. They have

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>shelve those plans. Yeah, because the Droid came out and

0:28:34.040 --> 0:28:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that ended up, Verizon decided that they would just back

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 1>the Droid line and various other Android phones and they

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.600
<v Speaker 1>would not carry the Nexus one line. Yes, so thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much Stephen for calling me out on that

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.720
<v Speaker 1>because I was absolutely incorrect and clearly I was not

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:52.960
<v Speaker 1>paying attention being the Android fan boy on this podcast. Yes,

0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:54.440
<v Speaker 1>he would have thrown something at me if he had

0:28:54.440 --> 0:28:56.760
<v Speaker 1>been watching I was. I was probably looking at my

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<v Speaker 1>notes trying to find wordline. At any rate, Thanks again.

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