1 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 2: I'm strong and Jetty and he Armstrong and Getty. 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: It's a really sad thing. But actually about eighty five 5 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 3: to ninety percent of psychologists identify as. 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Left of center. 7 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,239 Speaker 3: And so when we pair that with knowledge that, for example, 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 3: there's a study out of Rutgers showing that over half 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 3: of people who identify as left of center felt it 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 3: was somewhat justified potentially to murder President Trump. So I 11 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 3: think that my own field psychology has a real blind 12 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 3: spot to this assassination culture. 13 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: That's interesting. 14 00:00:55,760 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: We've talked about the polling that shows way too many 15 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: people are comfortable with political violence now. 16 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: As a way to get what you want. 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: And you got the Luigiani story with murdering the United 18 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: Healthcare guy and people that are okay with that. But 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: but Luigiani, how you say his name? I forgot No, 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 1: you're you're you're, that's a portmanteau. You're giving them a 21 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 1: single name like benefit. Stop doing that, Luigi Menngioni. And 22 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: actually I was going to vote for replaying some of 23 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: those unhinged CNN clips with the Taylor Lorenz but we 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: can get that in a minute. But he seems pretty crazy, 25 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: Luigi seems pretty crazy. And and so we're about to 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: tell you about the guy who set Governor Shapiro's governor 27 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: mansion on fire in Pennsylvania. 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: All these people are crazy. So I don't. 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: Understand how that fits in with our acceptance of political viole. 30 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean, do crazy people pick up in the wind 31 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: different differing attitudes towards political violence or what have I 32 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: think the way they relate to their overton window, which 33 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: is essentially just the list of things you could do, 34 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: is different than a sane person. But crazy, obviously is 35 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: a really imprecise term. 36 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 2: You can have somebody that's profoundly psychotic. 37 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: You can have somebody who's just stupid and alienated, alienated 38 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: and neurotic. 39 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: I mean, like the kid who took chunk of Trump's ear. 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean he wasn't like seriously mentally ill, he was 41 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: just really odd. 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: Okay, this guy. 43 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: Balmer, he's the guy that if he didn't hear this 44 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: over the weekend, it was Saturday night. He got onto 45 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: the property where Governor Shapiro lives in Pennsylvania, to the 46 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 1: Governor's mansion, got in there, got to the house, had 47 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: a hammer, smashed the windows open, threw in Molotov cocktails, 48 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: and started one. 49 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Heck of a fire. 50 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've seen the damage that was done, 51 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: but I mean it caught things on fire for real, 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and I mean Balmer, in an interview with the police 53 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: have been caught afterwards, admitted to harboring hatred of Governor 54 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: Shapiro and said that he would have beaten him with 55 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: his hammer had he run into him that night at 56 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: the mansion. According to an affidated file in the case, 57 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: Balmer's social media suggested not a particular ideology so much 58 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: as deep cynicism, in some posts espousing a libertarian bent 59 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: bordering on anarchism, and others praising violence. His Facebook posts 60 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: included rants about big pharma, women, and the government, while 61 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 1: several posts slammed former President Biden. There was little sign 62 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: of any loyalty to any party. Of course, they say 63 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 1: that when he's you know, as we all know, the 64 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: mainstream media adjusts their sales on these things depending on who. 65 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 2: They're mad at. 66 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: But sure, anyway, this guy didn't have a particular ideology. 67 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: It seems pretty clear outside of sociomyture of him. Yes, 68 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: his ideology is lunatic. Outside of social media, mister Balmer's 69 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: life appeared to have been unraveling in recent days. A 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: man who picked up the phone at Balmer's parents' home 71 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: on Monday said that we tried. 72 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: This is troubling. 73 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: We tried to get him help and he wouldn't take 74 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 1: his medicine, said probably dad, and refused to answer any 75 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:17,799 Speaker 1: more questions. 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 2: Excuse me, I'm dying from an unknown ailment. So. 77 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: Mister Balmer's mother told CBS News that her son was 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: mentally ill and that she had reached out to local 79 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: police departments last week to have him picked up, but 80 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: couldn't get anybody to help. The district attorney said the 81 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,160 Speaker 1: police officers had gone to the parents home on Thursday, 82 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: more than two days before the attack, but they'd left 83 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: without taking any action. He didn't make any threats, he 84 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:48,559 Speaker 1: wasn't violent or expressing any violent intention, so there's nothing 85 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: they could really do. 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: He's an adult. 87 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: This is a serious problem We've got everywhere in the 88 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,840 Speaker 1: country with these school shooters, political assassins. 89 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: Whoever. 90 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: You talked to their friends and parents, they say, yeah, 91 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: he's crazy. We knew he was crazy. We've been trying 92 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: to get somebody to block him up, but we can't 93 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: get anybody to lock him up because they haven't done 94 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: anything yet. 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 2: This happens over and over and over again. Yeah. 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: I would love to see our best and brightest get 97 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: together and have a you know, a week long confab 98 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: where they come up with, okay, the idea that you 99 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: can just be loose until you murder somebody or come close. 100 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: He had bets not acceptable. He had beaten his wife 101 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: and kid, both kids, so he's violent. She went after him. 102 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: But you know, you don't go to prison for the 103 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 1: rest of your life for that sort of thing. But 104 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: if I can finish my thought, we agree that waiting 105 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: until somebody has been killed is not a very good standard. 106 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: Can we come up with a standard short of. 107 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: That, that somebody's so plainly fruit loops and clearly, according 108 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: to any but a reasonable observer, dangerous, that we intercede 109 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: before the. 110 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 2: Blood is spilled? How can we not do that as 111 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: a society? How awful is that? As a parent? 112 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: Oh? 113 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: It's heartbreaking. 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: And they were calling the police last week, So I 115 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: mean he went off the rails, like right, before Saturday 116 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,919 Speaker 1: night when he actually tried to kill the governor. 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 2: There were twenty five people in that place. By the way, 118 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 2: that could have been an awful situation. Obviously. 119 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: How many children, Yeah, last week or several children, siblings 120 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: and parents were calling the police saying. 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,360 Speaker 2: You gotta lock this guy up. He's nuts. Yeah, get 122 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 2: him out. But there's nothing you can do. 123 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 1: The police in, the police go there, they interview him. 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 1: He didn't make any threats, So what are you gonna do? 125 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 1: And obviously, as civil libertarians, we all understand the downside 126 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: of moving the line. The other direction is that if 127 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: you're a vengeful ex husband, you can just call police saying, 128 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: my wife's saying crazy things. 129 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 2: Lock her up. She gets locked up, you say, because 130 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: that needs to happened. 131 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: Back in the day, Yeah, there was especially a presumption 132 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: of nuttiness toward females. 133 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 2: But make your own jokes at home if you like. 134 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: But surely we. 135 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Can design a system that's got a fail safe for 136 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: two so that can't happen. 137 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 2: It's again, this is not insurmountable. 138 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: So that's one aspect of this which I find interesting 139 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: that almost all the time, the people that knew them 140 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: best knew this was gonna happen. 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 2: Yeah. The other part is a person's crazy. So is the. 142 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: You know, over the top rhetoric from our house members 143 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: or the news channels or whatever. 144 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 2: Is this causing this when the people are nuts? I 145 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 2: don't know. 146 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Maybe again I don't I couldn't explain how Again, the 147 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: overton window of a crazy person is different from that 148 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: of a sane person or somebody who's just at their 149 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: wits end and loses their temper and loses perspective temporarily. 150 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it would seem there are ebbs 151 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: and flows to political. 152 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 2: Violence in US history. Definitely, that's undeniable. 153 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: And the crazy and the saying seemed to take part 154 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: in it during the periods of time when there's a 155 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: lot of it, most notably, you know, in our lifetimes 156 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: the early seventies when there were what something like two 157 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: hundred bombings in the US by mostly far left groups 158 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: in the early seventies, weather underground at all. So yeah, 159 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: it's just I don't know exactly how it works, but 160 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: it's undeniable. 161 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: It is. 162 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: But like, was this guy if Marjorie Taylor Green and 163 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: AOC tempered their rhetoric, would that have made any difference 164 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: to this guy or the guy who shot Trumper. I 165 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: just don't know, different answers for different people. Yeah, hey, 166 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: run eighty two. This is embarrassment to journalism. Donnie O'Sullivan 167 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: on embarrassment to journalism, CNN with embarrassment to journalism. 168 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: Taylor Lorenz, who was the it girl. 169 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 1: At the New York Times in Washington Post for quite 170 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: some time eighty two. 171 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 4: The women who got her outside coorsh in New York. 172 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 5: So you're gonna see women especially that feel like, oh 173 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 5: my god, right, Like, here's this man who who's revolutionary, 174 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 5: who's famous, who's handsome, who's young, who's smart. He's a 175 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 5: person that seems this like this morally good man, which 176 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 5: is hard to find. 177 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: He murdered a young dad in gold Blood, but he's 178 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 1: a morally good man. Agree and chuckle Taylor Lorenz and 179 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: Donnio Sullivan on CNN. Now granted they're not, they don't 180 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: have huge influence in America anymore. But their comfort expressing 181 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: that point of view that somebody you committed a heinous 182 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: act of political violence against somebody who had not wronged 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: them directly at all, well, Taylor Lorenz and Donnie Sullivan 184 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: not at all. But Luigi Mangioni, I mean, he didn't 185 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: deal with United Healthcare at all, He had no relationship 186 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: with him. He just thought, all right, healthcare insurance in 187 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: general is evil. I'm gonna gun down a young dad 188 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: on the streets of Manhattan, and they're chuckling about it 189 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: and loving it and explaining how he's a revolutionary. He's young, smart, 190 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: he's a morally good man, which is hard to find. 191 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: That sort of tolerance of horrifying political violence seeps into 192 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,679 Speaker 1: brains both sane and insane. It has to, but it 193 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't have anything to do with your political view either. 194 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: If somebody gunned down Randy Weingarten today, I would think 195 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: that was awful. Yeah, she's the one that locked up 196 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: your kids in school for two years because she's. 197 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 2: An evil human being. 198 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: But you can't be going around shooting people to solve things. 199 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: You need to vote and organize, and you know, we 200 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: have a system for this, right or it all falls 201 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: It all falls apart immediately when we use violence to 202 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: solve things. Yeah, absolutely true. God, that is horrifying. That 203 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: aired on CNN. It did, and there's quite a bit 204 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 1: to it, and good solid learned commentators have joined us 205 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,239 Speaker 1: in saying that is one of the most sickening spectacles 206 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: they'd ever seen. 207 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: It really is. 208 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: Holding him up is not only like cool, but like 209 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: you can't find guys like this again where you know, 210 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: don't you wish all more guys were like this cute 211 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: and morally brave mars to shoot a guy in the 212 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: back who's walking to work. And let's go ahead and 213 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 1: play clip number eighty, in which Taylor Lorenz expresses, just 214 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: just open contempt for anybody who's concerned about this. 215 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 5: Hilarious to see these millionaire media pundits on TV clutching 216 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 5: their pearls about someone standing a murderer when this is 217 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 5: this is the United States of America. As if we 218 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 5: don't lionize criminals, as if we don't have you know, 219 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 5: we don't stan murderers of all sorts, and we give 220 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 5: them Netflix shows. There's a huge disconnect between the narratives 221 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 5: and angles those are of mainstream media pushes and what 222 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 5: the American public feels. And you see that in moments 223 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 5: like this. 224 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: Lots of men hold women down and forcibly rape them. 225 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: The question isn't whether it happens or how much it happens, Taylor. 226 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: The question is it morally repugnant or not? And the 227 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: answer is, in both of these cases, it's horrific. It's 228 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: repugnant millionaire pundits clutching their pearls. 229 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 2: She's a despicable human where she is? Oh my god, man. 230 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: It it one thing we've learned in the last couple 231 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: of years that I never understood my whole life. 232 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:44,199 Speaker 2: I didn't understand how. 233 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: The French Revolution could happen, how the Soviet Union could happen, 234 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 1: how lots of things could. 235 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: Happen over time. And I now understand. 236 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: Because there are whotudes, slaughter institute, seasoned vice versa. 237 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: Right. 238 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: I never understood how those things could happen, and now 239 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: I fully get it. People can justify anything. Uh troubling. 240 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Text line four one, five, 241 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: two nine five kftc. 242 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 2: Arm Straw and. 243 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 6: Getty Star studied all female Blue Origin flight grew, including 244 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 6: Katie Perry and Gail King lasting off headed to the 245 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 6: edge of space. 246 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 2: Oh for crying at lift off? How would you describe it? 247 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: It's very difficult because you're you're floating. 248 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 7: But the best part was when we got back in 249 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 7: our seats after zero G's Katie sang, what a wonderful world? 250 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 2: She did that nice? She said, what a wonderful I 251 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 2: see dreams? Oh, yes, yes, yes, oh. Because we've been 252 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: asking her. 253 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,439 Speaker 7: To sing all the time and she wouldn't and she wouldn't. 254 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 7: And then because everybody said sing roars, sing fire, and 255 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 7: she said. 256 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: It's not about me. I wanted to talk about the world. Wow, 257 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 2: you know, is that nice? You got to ask her 258 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: about that? 259 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: And now the stoned girl you wish you hadn't started 260 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: talking to at a party. 261 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: You are officially an astra or not? How do you feel? 262 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 2: I still can't accept that word. 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 6: I just feel a renewed connection to everything in life 264 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 6: and where we are, and I can't wait to go 265 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 6: back out there. 266 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: It is the highest high, and it is surrender to 267 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: the unknown. 268 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: Trust God. We have played these that first clip about 269 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: the Katy Perry saying what a wonderful world? Oh my god, 270 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: she did. 271 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: We've played this like fifteen times and we're all still 272 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: rolling our eyes and shaking our heads. 273 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: Oh my god, she did? 274 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: Did you cry? 275 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: Yes? It must be. 276 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: Would it be more enjoyable to go through life like 277 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: that or less? But you're you're you're more easily awe 278 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: stricken than I am. 279 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 4: I feel like more people would be funny, people would 280 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 4: be put off by you, right if you're constantly awe stricken. 281 00:14:55,080 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god, that's awesome. It's the 282 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 2: highest tie. 283 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 1: It's the rendered to the unknown. Susie Weiss writes for 284 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: The Free Press. 285 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: I love this. 286 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: If you don't know what a bachelorette party is like, 287 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: let me tell you. It's like being vacuum sealed in 288 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: a tin can with a bunch of girls you don't 289 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: know that well, that well, but with whom you have 290 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: to pretend to have a life changing experience for the 291 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: sake of the bride, who invited everyone and. 292 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: Who has a vision. 293 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: What happened on this this morning's historic American space flight. 294 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: H Truer words have never been written. 295 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: Really, Katie, that's interesting. 296 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: I never thought about the bachelorette party where there's like 297 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: it's got to be like a life changing experience, especially. 298 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 4: When it's like a group of friends and you're not 299 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 4: part of that group and you have to go in 300 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 4: and it's all ah. 301 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 2: Going. 302 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: The tagline of the trip was taking up space, and 303 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: the whole thing smelled of a hen party, down to 304 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: the custom flight patch and matching outfits. The women all 305 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: wore figure hugging blue bell bottom Flight who is custom 306 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: made by the brand Moms and delivered on Perry's promise 307 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,440 Speaker 1: Katie Perry that the six lady crew would put. 308 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: The ass in an astronaut. Well, I had no problem 309 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: with that. That part I approved of. Let's see. 310 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: A few days ago, Perry told the AP she was 311 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: doing this to inspire the next generation. But watching all 312 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: the coverage, it seems like this flight was more like 313 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: the most publicized and most expensive bachelorette party ever, rather 314 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: than a generational watershed. 315 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 2: It's hard to know where to start. 316 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: Sometime in the days before the flight, the women were 317 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: recorded standing with their arms around each other, looking up 318 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: at the dock rocket, telling it we love you and 319 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: bring us back safe, as though they were talking to 320 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: an uber driver charged with getting them to and from 321 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: a club in Las Vegas. Harry also inexplicably told the rocket, 322 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: thank you for helping us heal my God, and then 323 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: she mentions she talks about some of them ringing the bell, 324 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: which is a tradition. There are always two kinds of 325 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: women at a bachelorette party one usually the having the 326 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 1: absolute time of her life and the older girl, maybe 327 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: a cousin or future sister in law, who is an 328 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,719 Speaker 1: abject hell, questioning why she even said yes in the 329 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:09,399 Speaker 1: first place. 330 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: Armstrong and getty, complete and utter joy and gratefulness. You 331 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 2: can hear no dream is too wild. 332 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 5: The moon was so beautiful, and that was like, I 333 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 5: felt like that was a special gift. 334 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: Just for me. 335 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 7: You can't go through what we went through to look 336 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 7: out for each other, to help each other. 337 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 2: And not be changed by that. I will never be 338 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 2: the same. This experience is right second to being a mom. 339 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: You can't go through what we went through together, the 340 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: way we had to help each other and be there 341 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: for each other without being. 342 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 2: What did you do at all? 343 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: You walked into a room, basically you sat down. They 344 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: buckled your belts, They shot up, and he came back down. 345 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 2: What the hell are you talking about? I've got to 346 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 2: admit you're not we few? 347 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 1: We happy few. I mean, come on, yeah, exactly. It 348 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: did not go to the moon on top of a 349 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: tin can. Nobody would. I was sure would work. So 350 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: I've got to admit I so misread this. I was 351 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: just rolling my eyes at this entire thing and paid 352 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: no attention to it, not realizing the enormous comedic potential 353 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: that it would you know, well, never mind potential, the 354 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: yield from this mission, this ship of fools, if you will. 355 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: So I was we were quoting Susie Weiss earlier, who 356 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: writes for the Free Press, and it's just hilarious. 357 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: I so want to hang out with her. 358 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: But so she's relating it to like the bachelorette party 359 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: from Hell, and how all the dynamics are exactly the same. 360 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: If you missed last segment, I suggest strongly you get 361 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,199 Speaker 1: it via the podcast Armstrong, you Getty on demand, But 362 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 1: she says, and I missed all of this. When the 363 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:59,160 Speaker 1: group got up to space and started floating, everyone's perfectly 364 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: coft hair flying everywhere. The group huddled to chant take 365 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 1: up space, and then like when your pregate, when you pregram, 366 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: when you pregame too hard before hitting a bar, they 367 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: all split up to do their own thing. 368 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 2: This is so freaking good, Katy Perry, too hard. 369 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: Katie Perry held a daisy her daughter is named Daisy, 370 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: for the camera and teared up. She also revealed a 371 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: set list for her upcoming Lifetime's tour on a cardboard 372 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 1: butterfly before letting it float away. Oh my god, you 373 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: did the thing with your daughter and then publicized your 374 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 1: tour in the same breath. 375 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: Whoa boy? You held a daisy for your daughter named Daisy. 376 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm having trouble connecting dots here and then 377 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: I taking the spaceship in your how does this fit together? 378 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the pod, Lauren Sanchez held up a plushy 379 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: of Flynn, the dyslexic fly character from her children's book 380 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,719 Speaker 1: The Fly Who Flew to Space, and like a drunk person, 381 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: kissed it and said, proud of you, Flynn, look a droppers. 382 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: Proud of you, Flynn, because you're on a space tourist 383 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: flight that some of these people paid for. By the way, 384 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: Katy Perry was a freebie, but anyway. Bo held up 385 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: an embroidered patch that said Bahamas with the Bahamian flag, 386 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: while nun Shot gave a shout out to Vietnam. Apparently 387 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: at one point, Katy Perry sang, what a wonderful world, 388 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: which isn't my choice for karaoki, but a solid one nonetheless, 389 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: Like the Maid of Honor who takes her job very seriously. 390 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 2: Perry never sat still. 391 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: In another shot, she was upside down making a shape 392 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: of a heart with her hands. Then, like any group 393 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: of girls who knows their horoscopes, someone screams. 394 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: Out look at the moon. 395 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: These spacecraft's descent had the same audio footprint cackling, screaming, 396 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: whooping as one of those eighteen person party bikes that 397 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: you see bachelorettes drinking on all over Nashville when they 398 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: got out of the When they got out of the 399 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: vehicle back on Earth, like any exhausted bridal party member, 400 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: landing at LaGuardia at two am Monday morning, it was 401 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: as though they'd spent years up there. Perry and King 402 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: each kissed the air at ground once they disembarked the pod, 403 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 1: with King exclaiming thank you Jesus. Sanchez and Nuen both sobbed. 404 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 1: And I must point out that Bezos, the eager groom, 405 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,719 Speaker 1: fell on his face as he maneuvered to free his bride. 406 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 2: Yeah he fell down. 407 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, the whole kissing the ground after you get back 408 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 1: eight minutes later, what the hell is that? 409 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 2: There's just a little more. 410 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: In the postgame interview, Perry said the experience in space 411 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: was up there with meditation or the Hoffman process, whatever 412 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: that is. We're all looking around and saying, what that's 413 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: the uber expensive retreat where celebrities go to meditate and 414 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 1: exercise childhood traumas because quote, you're like really finding the 415 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 1: love for yourself, because you got to trust in yourself. 416 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: That's a quote from Katy Perry that she felt connected to, 417 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: quote the divine feminine. The purpose of the trip wasn't 418 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: to bring back any moon rocks or calculate the astronomical 419 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: unit between stars. The point was just to be literally 420 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: to take up space up near the edge of Earth. 421 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 2: Much like The Bachelorette. 422 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: The concept was to look good, have a great time, 423 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: and do a lot of screaming and honestly, mission accomplished. 424 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: Now come the instagrams. 425 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: If you have a face full of makeup, had your 426 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 1: hair done, and schlept to West Texas for your friends 427 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: to blast through the sound barrier, you might as well 428 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: get some likes out of it and sounding for all 429 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: the world like someone who narrowly survived Atlantic City and 430 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: who has a rehearsal dinner to plan. Sanchez told the 431 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: on site Blue Origin interviewer, quote, I had to come back. 432 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: I mean, we're getting married. Oh wow, that was women 433 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: really delicious. Hilarity in this is is well delicious. That 434 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: is really brilliant to compare that to a bachelorette party, 435 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: because it's it is spot on, it is it is 436 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: absolutely the same vibe. I can't wait to send this 437 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 1: to both my daughta from another mother, Katie, and my 438 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: actual youngest daughter, who has been party to many of 439 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: these exhausting spectacles and testaments to how much you love 440 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 1: the bride. 441 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm glad some she truly does. Yeah, I'm glad that 442 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: Katie's here. 443 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: You know, so we got a woman who's mocking this 444 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: and not just a couple of dudes, because. 445 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can. You can love the bride 446 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 4: and the bachelorette party can still be hell on earth. 447 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: It's just you know, well, the thing I used to 448 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: I worked at a bar for many many years, a 449 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: big country bar, like dance club sort of bar, really big, 450 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,360 Speaker 1: and I would see this every Friday and Saturday night. 451 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: So there'd be the couple of chicks that got there 452 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 1: at like nine and then they're one of their friends 453 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: from work would walk in it like fifteen, and they 454 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: would all go and run over and hug each other, 455 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: and I would think, I mean a lot of times 456 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: I knew these people and I thought, you just you just. 457 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 2: Left work at five o'clock. 458 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: I mean like four hours ago, you worked all day today, 459 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 1: and you are you seeing each other a few hours 460 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: later at the bar and you're acting like you haven't 461 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 1: seen each other in two years? 462 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what is that? 463 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: And they would do it every Friday and Saturday night, 464 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: and I've never quite understood. 465 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 2: And they run them and they hug each other. 466 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe you're here, even though we said when 467 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 1: we left work four hours ago, see at the bar later. 468 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I don't so I don't understand 469 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,200 Speaker 1: that whole thing. And then you saw the womanhood, yes, right, 470 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,159 Speaker 1: you saw that whole thing on display kind of with 471 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 1: the rocket yesterday. 472 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: It was basically the same thing. Told me, God, I 473 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 2: can't believe you're here. Yeah, we trained for this, for. 474 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 4: What are you doing here? 475 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 2: Exactly? Oh? 476 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: And it has to be so magical important and oh 477 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: you can't just say, hey, that was really fun, that's great, 478 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: views amazing. 479 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 2: No, it's got to be transcendent. 480 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 4: Well, I have a couple of I have a couple 481 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,400 Speaker 4: of friends that do that every time they see friends, 482 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: and nothing makes you want to turn around and just 483 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 4: walk out. 484 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: You're either that kind of person you're not, And I 485 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: have no I personally have known preeople that do that, 486 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 1: and they're very nice people. 487 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very sweet, but boy, I just don't get it. 488 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: So I didn't realize this till you mentioned it, Joe. 489 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,560 Speaker 1: So the space tourism you can pay to do that 490 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: thing has begun. 491 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what does it cost currently? Do you know? 492 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I don't remember. I remember when it was 493 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 2: like six figures. 494 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 1: Anyway, Yeah, it's five six figures, fifty grand, one hundred 495 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: grand something like that. 496 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 2: I don't know what price. 497 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: What would it have to get down to where you 498 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: would even consider it, because I I wouldn't pay, And 499 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't even mean from a whether you can afford 500 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 1: it or not. 501 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: I don't think it's worth ten thousand dollars. 502 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: I think for ten thousand dollars, I could take a 503 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 1: better vacation that ought to have better memories of them 504 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: doing that personally. Uh yeah, yeah, I haven't really thought 505 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: about it. 506 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 2: It would be pretty amazing, I think, but pretty I 507 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 2: don't think. 508 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 1: It would like I would change my view of all 509 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: humanity and what love means the way some of these 510 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 1: people seem. 511 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 2: To claim it. 512 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: And I feel like I already have an appreciation for 513 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: the fact that when you look at the planet, you think, 514 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: all right, the disputes of the people in that tiny 515 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: corner and those people right next to them are stupid, 516 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 1: and they ought to drop it and figure out a 517 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 1: way not to slaughter each other's children. 518 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 2: I already think that. Actually. 519 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: The one that made the most sense to me was 520 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: William Shatner when he went up last year sometime and 521 00:26:54,600 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: he was talking about everything being dead in space. There's 522 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: just life is here on Earth. This is where all 523 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: the life is happening in love and everything like that. 524 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: Everything outside of here is dead. It's just a barren rock, 525 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting. Well, and I think it 526 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,120 Speaker 1: would be actually a transcendent experience if you got up 527 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: high enough, and I'm not sure, I mean, they could 528 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: absolutely see the curvature of the Earth and comprehend that 529 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: it is indeed a sphere. 530 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: Roughly. I think that. 531 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: Would be really really cool and interesting. But again, I 532 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,120 Speaker 1: already know what I've seen the pictures. Yeah, I've seen 533 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: really good pictures like in a I've seen them in 534 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: the sphere in Las Vegas, surrounded by four k I mean, so. 535 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 2: How much better would it be than that? 536 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not trying to be too cynical, but no, 537 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: I just find it hard to believe. 538 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 2: I'd come back and say, I now understand what love means. 539 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I would enjoy the feeling of weightlessness. 540 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: I would love that that I would like to experience. 541 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:57,439 Speaker 1: How long do they get to do it? Like a minute? 542 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: I've wanted to do that since I was little kid. 543 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: Get to float around like an astronaut. I think that 544 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:04,800 Speaker 1: would be That'd be the most amazing. 545 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 2: Part to me to ever get to do that. You 546 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: know what the best part would be? 547 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 1: You know that my little yellow pad that I have 548 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: in the bathroom where I write down my weight every day. 549 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: That day I would write down to zero, and the 550 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: next day I'd go back to whatever happens to be. Yes, 551 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: briefly today, I wait nothing. Then I had a bad day. 552 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: I had more, but I knew I shouldn't have that 553 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: last piece of pizza, and I gained one hundred and 554 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: ninety eight pounds of. 555 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 2: Okay, we'll finish strong. 556 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 6: Next, in a new interview, Rosie O'Donnell revealed her friendship 557 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,520 Speaker 6: with Lyle Menendez, saying that he made her feel quote 558 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 6: safe enough to trust and love a straight man. Upon 559 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 6: hearing this, Menendez came out as gay and returned to 560 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 6: his prison cell. 561 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: It's tax day, and I have a feeling many of 562 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: you have heard this before. 563 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 2: I hadn't. Somehow, it's pretty good. 564 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: It's a letter Donald Rumsfeld sent to the IRS back 565 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen on tax Day. Donald Rumsfeld, who was 566 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: the oldest Secretary of Defense we've ever had and the 567 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: youngest Secretary of Defense we've ever had under Ford and Bush. 568 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 2: You might remember him from the. 569 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: Go for anyway, he and his wife sent this letter 570 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: to the IRS in twenty fourteen. Dear Sir Madam, I 571 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: have sent in our federal income tax as in prioris. 572 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 1: Is important for you to know that I have absolutely 573 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 1: no idea whether our tax returns and our tax payments 574 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 1: are accurate. I say this despite the fact that I 575 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: am a college graduate and I try hard to make 576 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: sure our tax returns are accurate. The tax code is 577 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: so complex and the forms are so complicated that I 578 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: know I cannot have any confidence that I know what 579 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: is being requested, and therefore I cannot and do not know. 580 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: And I suspect a great many Americans cannot know whether 581 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: or not their tax returns are accurate. As in past year, 582 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: as I have spent more money than and I wanted 583 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: to spend to hire an accounting firm to prepare our 584 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: tax returns, and believe they are well qualified. This note 585 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: is to alert you that I know that I do 586 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: not know whether or not my tax returns are accurate. 587 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: Which is a sad commentary on governance in our nation's capital, 588 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: and it goes on. It's in other words, it is yes, 589 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: how does the end? He says, I do hope that 590 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: at some point in my lifetime, and I am now 591 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: in my eighties, so there are not many years left, 592 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: the US government will simplify the US tax code so 593 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: that those citizens who sincerely want to pay what they 594 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: should are able to do it right and know they 595 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 1: have done it right. I should add that my wife 596 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: of fifty nine years, also a college graduate, has signed 597 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: our joint return, but she also knows that this does 598 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: not have any idea whether or not our tax payments 599 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: are accurate. 600 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: Sincerely, Donald Rumsfeld, that's pretty funny. Wow, wow, yeah, no kidding. Well, 601 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years. It's clearly true. 602 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: The government, at the point of a prison sentence makes 603 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: you pay taxes. Okay, fine, but then you make it 604 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: so complicated that you have to hire somebody to figure 605 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 1: out how much you have to pay your own expense 606 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: to the government, and even then you can't be certain 607 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: that you haven't violated any law. That's a ridiculous system. Yeah, 608 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: it's abusive, it's absurd. It's the product of lobbyists and 609 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: social engineering and legitimate desires to shape society and the 610 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: rest of it. But you know, I just if someone 611 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: proposed this system, they would probably be fifty one fifty 612 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: and held for their own safety and that of others, right, 613 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: because you'd have. 614 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 2: To be insane to propose our current system. 615 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: And always keep in mind, while the Democratic Party winds 616 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: and moans about taxes all the time, and they would 617 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: like taxes to be higher in general, they don't attack 618 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: a lot of these regulations that help out them and 619 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: their friends and all kinds of different people that want 620 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,920 Speaker 1: them to stay the same way. 621 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:08,840 Speaker 4: Right. 622 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: Right, when Hillary Clinton was running for president and going 623 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: on or whoever democratic president's going around running around complaining 624 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: about the Richard. They don't point out specific things that 625 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: they want change in the textago. 626 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 2: They don't. 627 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: Well, if there were any reason for this conversation to 628 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: take place, and I don't think there was, it would 629 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 1: have Hillary would have spouted about taxing the billionaires and 630 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,960 Speaker 1: their assets and blah blah blah. Jamie Diamond, some Wall 631 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: Street giant would call her and say you don't really 632 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: mean that stuff, and she's say, no, no, of course not. 633 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: And he said, okay, fine, I get it right here. 634 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: You're it's populism. Admit me quotus to this history. Who 635 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: prologue like your humble patients, prey gently to hear, kindly 636 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: to judge the final thoughts of Armstrong and Ditty. Yeah, 637 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: so I'd rather have people talk like that than say, Finna, 638 00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: get a sandwich. 639 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 2: Finn to do final thoughts with our host Joe Geddy. 640 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: Let's get a final thought from everybody on the crew. 641 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: Say how about our technical director Michael Angelo leading us off, Michael, Yeah, 642 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: next time I fly Southwest Airlines, I'm gonna kiss the 643 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,040 Speaker 1: ground when we land. 644 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 6: And hold up a daisy and tell everybody I now 645 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:17,040 Speaker 6: know what love is. 646 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: I think you should Katie Green or Esteemed to use 647 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: women as a final thought, Katie, Well, for. 648 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: The rest of the week. 649 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 4: Every time I see you guys, I'm gonna go show 650 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 4: my excitement and. 651 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 2: I'll yell it back. 652 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: Jack. A final thought for us, Yeah, next time I 653 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: do the fifty minute flight to Burbank and get off 654 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: the plane, which by the way, is five times longer 655 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: than their flight, I will talk about how what love 656 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: means to me, and how we all pulled together and 657 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 1: had each other's backs and all that sort of stuff, 658 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: and how it was just trust and the highest high sir, 659 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: get off the flight. 660 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: There are people beyond you. 661 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: My final thought is I've often said I would love 662 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 1: the federal government to show me the bridge I have 663 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: paid for or the battleship. But honestly, if that were 664 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: to happen, it would probably be a bunch of lazy 665 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: bastards with the pot addictions who don't work and I've 666 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: been paying for their Medicaid all along, or something like that. 667 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: How disappointing would that be? 668 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 1: Armstrong In and Getty wrapping up another grueling four hour workday. 669 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 1: So many people think so little time good to Armstrong 670 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: in getdy dot com. Many pleasures await you there, including 671 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: the hot links, Katie's Corner, the swag shop, get an a, 672 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: andng lighthood. It's the perfect way drops an omail bag 673 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,399 Speaker 1: at Armstrong You getdy dot com so something we ought 674 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: to be talking about. 675 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: You see, send it along. 676 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: So many pleasures await you there. Oh we will see 677 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: you tomorrow. God bless America for here. 678 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,440 Speaker 3: Because an extreme concentration of Armstrong. 679 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 2: And Getty, it became a parent that what we have 680 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 2: here is I feel like that was a special gift 681 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: just for me. 682 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 7: I still can't accept that word. 683 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 2: I will never be the same, are you sure? Oh 684 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 2: dead show one final message. You can't go through. 685 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 7: What we went through to look out for each other, 686 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 7: to help each other and not be changed by that moron. 687 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 2: Get the hell out of here. Bye bye, Armstrong and 688 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 2: Getty