Speaker 1: Carola. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.
Speaker 1: She's on the side. She got the scoop on the wall,
Speaker 1: on the ones in side. No one can do with
Speaker 1: klie My Carola, Carola. No one can do with quiet
Speaker 1: like Carola this time Carola. Hey, y'all, welcome to Hyper
Speaker 1: Caroline Hobby. I am your host, Caroline Hobby. I know music,
Speaker 1: I know people, and I know the questions you want
Speaker 1: to ask, So let's get hyper heads up. These are
Speaker 1: adults having adult conversations, so there could be adult content.
Speaker 1: You guys, Mallory Irvin is in the house. If you
Speaker 1: don't know Mallory Irvin yet, then get excited. You're about
Speaker 1: to get to know her. This girl has more energy
Speaker 1: than the Energizer Bunny. She is the sweetest, brightest light.
Speaker 1: She was Miss Kentucky, then runner up to Miss America.
Speaker 1: She's been on The Amazing Race three different seasons. She
Speaker 1: has voted back a fan favorite, and now she's a
Speaker 1: freaking YouTube star. Her YouTube page has makeup to Toris,
Speaker 1: it has clothing, it has all of her wedding videos,
Speaker 1: her honeymoon, workout tips, cooking tips. She literally is your
Speaker 1: one stop shop for everything, and she is so much fun.
Speaker 1: Here is Mallory Urban spirit fingers, so sorry Urbans with
Speaker 1: me like old, I know, isn't that great? Which I
Speaker 1: have in the world to get a caroline. You're one
Speaker 1: of the few people in Amazing race history though, who
Speaker 1: has ever done amazing race three times. Well you would
Speaker 1: think there are times charm, but it was not real
Speaker 1: far from didn't quiet go as a planned right, it didn't,
Speaker 1: but like you know, you're close your dad too, so
Speaker 1: like my dad was my partner and y'all were team
Speaker 1: Yellow and Yellow and it was just awesome and like
Speaker 1: we almost want we almost wanted this. So how many times?
Speaker 1: What what place do I get? First time you did it?
Speaker 1: So the first time we made it to the like
Speaker 1: the leg before the leg, so maybe six six six,
Speaker 1: y'all got six. So y'all made it like the episode
Speaker 1: before the final right, So we didn't go to like
Speaker 1: elimination station or anything. So we made a race quester.
Speaker 1: We were the decoys, so we like ran the race
Speaker 1: to like fake out people so that if people took
Speaker 1: pictures around the world the right fans because it was
Speaker 1: the most follow amazing race and like follow the race,
Speaker 1: they try to keep up what they do do, remember,
Speaker 1: like fans do like in all these countries. Hey, hey
Speaker 1: guys that like you watched it too, there's a big
Speaker 1: fan world out there. So y'all were the decoys because
Speaker 1: we were So then we came home. We were at home,
Speaker 1: so you know, I've just done Miss America and then
Speaker 1: like we go straight into the race. So we come
Speaker 1: home from the race, and it's kind of sad that
Speaker 1: we didn't win. You know how it is like the
Speaker 1: first time and you didn't win because you were like
Speaker 1: all pumped up. It doesn't take a minute to recover.
Speaker 1: It takes a minute to recover, like physically and mentally
Speaker 1: and emotionally because you're like, all of a sudden, where's
Speaker 1: my camera crew following me around? Now I'm doing all
Speaker 1: these things that are going to be seen by the world,
Speaker 1: and like, yeah matter and so then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're like nothing matters. Now what am I supposed to do? Exactly?
Speaker 1: So we were at home, like dejected in our house,
Speaker 1: and it was like, you know, a week after the
Speaker 1: race had finished, So it's still three months until it's
Speaker 1: gonna air. You know, you got it like that secret time, Yes,
Speaker 1: And the phone rings. It's Len Spielman, the casting director,
Speaker 1: and they said they would never do never do another
Speaker 1: All Star season ever in the history of the show.
Speaker 1: Why you said they would never, like they had already
Speaker 1: done enough and like they were going to do other things.
Speaker 1: You know how they always say that real dramatic, right,
Speaker 1: So I answered the phone and she was like, hey,
Speaker 1: when I would you and your dad be interested in
Speaker 1: do an All Star season if we want to do one? Um,
Speaker 1: you know, she's real, well, yes, yes, what to do?
Speaker 1: You know we're still in the half of the last one.
Speaker 1: So I run downstairs. My dad has no idea that
Speaker 1: it's even an option. As aid Dad, what's the best
Speaker 1: thing that could ever happen to you in your entire
Speaker 1: life that you never thought in a million years would happened?
Speaker 1: He said, amazing Races is havn't an All Star season?
Speaker 1: And we got cast? So you and your dad just
Speaker 1: loved it. Oh man, it was like our thing. But
Speaker 1: it was like, well, okay, I need to preface. You
Speaker 1: have so much energy. You do too, but no, you
Speaker 1: can like put so much energy into a lot of
Speaker 1: things at one time, Like I can do one thing
Speaker 1: and I can really give it my all and then
Speaker 1: I'm tired. But you can do it in a million
Speaker 1: different categories. So I feel like amazing races. Finally, the
Speaker 1: one thing on this earth that utilizes boundless energy. Yes
Speaker 1: it was good, but it's bad for like concentration and
Speaker 1: like being serious and stuff. But then that's where my
Speaker 1: dad came in. You are the perfect team. You're the
Speaker 1: perfect team. And like he's such a prepper, like you know,
Speaker 1: he's just climbed Everest this last year. He's here in
Speaker 1: the climate again. He said, you're just your dad just
Speaker 1: climbed not Everest for fun. And he's like, what hell
Speaker 1: does sixty? You just climbed not Everest for fun at sixty.
Speaker 1: It's not fine for the family. I'll tell you that
Speaker 1: right now. Okay, so you and your dad were made
Speaker 1: for masonaries. I always energy, and now your dad is
Speaker 1: doing crazy things like climbing every Yeah, so he like
Speaker 1: I was a wild crazy, just a wildcat that would
Speaker 1: kiss a text driver if I didn't have any money,
Speaker 1: or that would like run straight on. Well, my dad
Speaker 1: asked me to do that. Your dad asked you to
Speaker 1: kiss the taxi because we don't have any money. We
Speaker 1: don't any money, like kiss him. I mean, you talk
Speaker 1: about a serious man on the amazing He's like, we're
Speaker 1: gonna use everything we got to. Wevery tactic. So did
Speaker 1: you get some taxic crab drivers? I don't think I
Speaker 1: had to kiss that one, Thank the Lord. It wasn't gone.
Speaker 1: It was hot, it was slitty. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 1: had like call me were all my hands? You know
Speaker 1: how it goes when you tell these stories to like
Speaker 1: normal people that don't get it. They're like, wait, what
Speaker 1: you were aware? And what were you Why were you
Speaker 1: doing them? Yes? I was raising around the world for
Speaker 1: a million dollars. You've never seen the show. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: um so my dad he's so awesome because he's like
Speaker 1: a prepper. Like he's got like the clothes line and
Speaker 1: he's got the packets of the turkey. He used the
Speaker 1: duct tape to like tape up the car. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: just a pro. So. But then I think he just
Speaker 1: got this thing from the race. I think he got
Speaker 1: this bug in and like he had to just keep
Speaker 1: adventuring and adventuring and adventuring. So after a second season,
Speaker 1: I'm going to do all seven summits. He said before
Speaker 1: I turned sixty seven. Summits. What do you mean seven
Speaker 1: summits kill him? Okay, to Everest, like he's gonna do
Speaker 1: all the mountains. So he did all the mountains. He did,
Speaker 1: He did them all he did. Dad just doesn't say
Speaker 1: he's gonna do That's the thing that distinguishes you and
Speaker 1: Garrit your dad, from everyone else is you don't just
Speaker 1: like have these grandiose ideas. You have them and then
Speaker 1: you actually do them, and you don't just do them,
Speaker 1: you do them. Well, well, thanks, that's nice for me
Speaker 1: to say. But how Hotell, he didn't make it off
Speaker 1: one of these dang mountains. So he's going back, he's
Speaker 1: going back. What's wrong with I don't some something's wrong
Speaker 1: with him. Gary. You know, he says like he's like
Speaker 1: he's like something about climbing mountains. He just he loves it.
Speaker 1: He loves because you know, he's running these big businesses
Speaker 1: and he's just a very successful man. So he loves
Speaker 1: going on these mountains because he's just free of everything,
Speaker 1: like he can unplug or whatever. And he said, he
Speaker 1: always says this quote, and I think it's really cool.
Speaker 1: He's like, if you don't believe in God, climbing mountain
Speaker 1: He's like, there's something cool just on the top of
Speaker 1: that mountain. It's just it's just something different that he's
Speaker 1: never been able to find, like anywhere else doing anything
Speaker 1: else in the world. But like everest, okay, do it
Speaker 1: once lived a good job. Way to go, Gary, He
Speaker 1: did all seven but he said no, so he needs
Speaker 1: that huge rush. He does, so he lives for that,
Speaker 1: like adrenaline rush. You know, he's a piloty he does
Speaker 1: all these other You have that same need too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like I got some common sense about me to
Speaker 1: know maybe the body can't withstand this like more than once.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so he's going in September. He's going to
Speaker 1: do it again because he it like a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty or something steps from the summit almost there. Oh,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't feel like he completed it. But people
Speaker 1: were like, because people everybody's done. They're like, Gary, if
Speaker 1: you keep going, you're gonna die. But people were like
Speaker 1: literally dying right, yes, like a lot of people. It's
Speaker 1: not even a joke, Like this is for real joke.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so that's my mom. I'm like, I talked
Speaker 1: to my mom. We laugh all the time, like he's
Speaker 1: gonna die. It's not funny, but he is. And my
Speaker 1: Mom's like, if the lord's going to take him, I ever,
Speaker 1: then he's going to take him on the couch and
Speaker 1: saying Now, I was like, no, you know, you can
Speaker 1: get a little closer to coming out, Mallory. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You just gotta pray for him. Do you just have
Speaker 1: to let it go? You can't worry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, he's always like, I'm not gonna stay
Speaker 1: at home and like get old, and like he keeps
Speaker 1: saying that I'm not just I'm not gonna let myself go.
Speaker 1: He's like, I have to have something that is so
Speaker 1: challenging and so physically, mentally emotionally taxing that it keeps
Speaker 1: me young, it keeps me a lot of He's me
Speaker 1: living for something, and I wish you'd choose something else.
Speaker 1: He's really gotten to the top of the top of
Speaker 1: what you could actually pick for that rush Like he's
Speaker 1: all the way up there. Okay, So you grew up,
Speaker 1: You're you're just like such a fascinating person. You are.
Speaker 1: You grew up on a compound with twenty three cousins
Speaker 1: and y'all all lived together. I need to know how
Speaker 1: your childhood looked, so we call it a compound. Compound.
Speaker 1: It wasn't like a weird compound. It was like a
Speaker 1: cool compound. And we just call it compound. Because so
Speaker 1: my grandparents lived, your dad's parents, your mom my mom's
Speaker 1: also lived in the same like county, but not on
Speaker 1: the same farm. So it's like out in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere. It's called box Ville population like whatever my
Speaker 1: family is at the time. And so my grandparents and
Speaker 1: then we all built houses around. So there's six siblings
Speaker 1: in my dad's family and then all these kids and
Speaker 1: I'm the oldest, and here's the oldest of all twenty three.
Speaker 1: I was the queen. I was the chief of Wow lord, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I was the balls. Yes, you are the lord. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I had to like let go of that,
Speaker 1: Like how did you let go of that? Because you
Speaker 1: had a whole like army underneath you. I mean it's tough,
Speaker 1: and you can run a ship at that. I can
Speaker 1: run a ship because you know, you had places to go,
Speaker 1: Like you're not one of those people. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do, like you know what
Speaker 1: you want to do. Well, that's why I can do
Speaker 1: a lot of things that once, probably because I grew
Speaker 1: up in this where there was so much going on
Speaker 1: even though there was nothing going on. There were no restaurants,
Speaker 1: there was a Walmart, it was fifteen miles away. We
Speaker 1: had one high school in our whole county. I mean
Speaker 1: it's such a small town. But you know, we lived
Speaker 1: a worldly life when we were little, Like, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was the minds of my family that
Speaker 1: you know, they brought things into our houses that like,
Speaker 1: it wasn't about where we lived, but you know, that's
Speaker 1: just this setting. It was just cool in the backyard
Speaker 1: my papa, but he's still life, still make a moonshine
Speaker 1: and bourbon. Like he's having his help, like make the
Speaker 1: mash for this for bourbon, like making family bourbon. Everybody's
Speaker 1: like into hunting and just all this awesome stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just it was a really cool way. Did
Speaker 1: you play with your cousins every day? Oh my gosh, Yes,
Speaker 1: we built things, We sunk things, we wrecked things, like
Speaker 1: all twenty three of y'all play every day? Did y'all
Speaker 1: divide up into groups? And it was like I had
Speaker 1: twelve siblings all the time. They were always like ten
Speaker 1: kids sleeping in your house and like everybody's like piled
Speaker 1: into other people's cars and you don't know where your
Speaker 1: child is, but you know that they're at one of
Speaker 1: their ants with somebody hopefully. Wow. Yeah, so it was fine.
Speaker 1: So do you just love going home? Yeah? I mean
Speaker 1: it's just you know, like when when you have an
Speaker 1: upbringing like that, like you always want to capture. I
Speaker 1: try to like bring it into my own life, Like
Speaker 1: my siblings live here, even though we live in Nashville.
Speaker 1: I'm like, we gotta keep this family thing going. Like
Speaker 1: just this last week we went to Veil altogether, and
Speaker 1: it's just my family is just all about just having
Speaker 1: the best time with our family. Like that's always been
Speaker 1: my best friends. Where my family. And you know, whether
Speaker 1: you have like a small family or whether you're married
Speaker 1: into a family or whatever, like make your family and
Speaker 1: like those your people, and I love that and have
Speaker 1: fun and enjoy other. Okay, So you said when you're
Speaker 1: growing up, you learned how to do all sorts of
Speaker 1: hobbies all the time, Like you just would pick up sewing,
Speaker 1: you'd pick up flying an airplane, you pick up What
Speaker 1: kind of hobbies have you just picked up? Because these
Speaker 1: aren't just like little hobbies like learning that you could lately,
Speaker 1: like you can do a lot of really complicated things. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: I mean I think too when you have a creative mind,
Speaker 1: like you come from one thing to the next and
Speaker 1: the next and next. But not everyone does that really well,
Speaker 1: like you do well. Thanks. I don't know if I've
Speaker 1: necessarily done it well, but I've definitely done it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I just I was interested in so many things as
Speaker 1: a child. I always was like creative, creative, and like
Speaker 1: I love to sing and dance and act and you
Speaker 1: know all that stuff. But like when that got a
Speaker 1: little old to me, then I just start like picking up.
Speaker 1: I got learned fly airplane. Do you learn to learn
Speaker 1: and play an instrument? Or can you fly in land
Speaker 1: and air? I have a student license, so I learned
Speaker 1: in college because like you just need to learn a
Speaker 1: flan air plane even though I don't fly. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's a great thing to'll just learn how to do.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could make myself. I feel
Speaker 1: like I just just do it for my resume. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you know, you can actually take it off and land it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a small plane, but I'm a little rusty so okay,
Speaker 1: and then you just learned the ukulele. No, I didn't
Speaker 1: finish You didn't finish that one. Yeah, but like with
Speaker 1: the sewing and stuff, like if I'm not if I
Speaker 1: can't master it pretty quickly, I'm move on. You're moving on. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So what are some other hobbies that you have? I mean,
Speaker 1: like obviously love beauty, everything makeup and fashion and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. Like I used to make my own clothes
Speaker 1: whenever I was little, and you know, stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And then like beauty, that's always been a huge thing
Speaker 1: for me, and once you got interested, you got you
Speaker 1: just owned it because like glam is so fun and
Speaker 1: like everybody, everybody loves makeup. Everybody loves like feeling beautiful,
Speaker 1: and that was something that you know, when I was
Speaker 1: ten years old, I remember like starting to do people's
Speaker 1: makeup and just like loving it. And even though I
Speaker 1: was singing, that was my main thing and stuff. I
Speaker 1: always had all these other hobbies, but that's one thing
Speaker 1: that's kind of woven into like everything that I've done.
Speaker 1: It helped me out at Miss America, which leads you
Speaker 1: to Miss America, which is so random. So explain to
Speaker 1: me how Okay, you grew up in the compound population.
Speaker 1: Family is where you live, and now you're like, okay, here,
Speaker 1: I am coming to do Miss America. So it's well,
Speaker 1: it's just really random. So I didn't do pageants. I
Speaker 1: was not you weren't a pageant girl. Okay, well how
Speaker 1: did you get into this? So I mean, and now
Speaker 1: how I was like, I'm sure you are. You're like five,
Speaker 1: like really five, like five, just five flat fat, fat flat,
Speaker 1: And like I didn't know you could qualify if you're
Speaker 1: just five, but you can't. Well you can because you
Speaker 1: can do anything. Well, So people, a lot of people
Speaker 1: don't know this about like you know, Miss America. It's
Speaker 1: about other things. It's not a beauty pageant. It's like talent.
Speaker 1: And I was a singer, and I'm like I had
Speaker 1: a good talent. You're great, but thanks well in the
Speaker 1: pageant world, I was good because everybody's good. You cant
Speaker 1: you got, but well thank you, so do you? And
Speaker 1: like that was a lot and then like swimsuit and
Speaker 1: honest age question and interview and I knew like I
Speaker 1: could do an interview swimsuit though, I mean you kill Yeah,
Speaker 1: well I got my dad's body the muscles and such.
Speaker 1: So if I can get all that fat off of it,
Speaker 1: then it's I'm going to go. So I was able
Speaker 1: to do that. Let you decided you're going to do
Speaker 1: Miss America, then you trade for it, and what happens?
Speaker 1: How do you enroll? How do you make it to
Speaker 1: actually getting to be the representative for your state? Yeah,
Speaker 1: like it's cool because it's a job. So I loved
Speaker 1: like speaking in traveling and doing all this cool stuff.
Speaker 1: And a lot of people don't realize, like the winner,
Speaker 1: so the Miss Kentucky will work for the Department of Agriculture,
Speaker 1: And I got to speak to like schools and stuff,
Speaker 1: and I don't like speaking. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: I mean all kinds of things. When I have like
Speaker 1: an audience of eight hundred kids and like I'm already
Speaker 1: like wold and fun, Like a lot of these pageant
Speaker 1: girls are like no, no, not you. But like I
Speaker 1: had the best time. I'd be like get out of here,
Speaker 1: and like it's just fun times to put the crown
Speaker 1: on the boys and just like we're having the best time.
Speaker 1: These kids say the funniest things and ask the funniest questions.
Speaker 1: And it taught me how to like, you know, respond
Speaker 1: quickly and like and that helps me like you're in life.
Speaker 1: But um, but yeah, so it was random. It was
Speaker 1: one day and my dad was like, I think you
Speaker 1: should be Miss America. We're like on the way to church.
Speaker 1: That's how he talks or that's how you know. What
Speaker 1: I love about your dad is he doesn't just say that.
Speaker 1: He actually saysn't. It means it. He's like, you can
Speaker 1: do it. So I was like, okay. So then I
Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'll try. So I love how you're
Speaker 1: just like I do that. I did. Um, so you
Speaker 1: have to do a local pageant. I want my first
Speaker 1: local pageant. Then you go to Miss Kentucky. There's thirty
Speaker 1: two girls that qualified ago and it's first year for
Speaker 1: some reason, in a black velvet turn like cats suit
Speaker 1: and um, shoulder padded. Well. I was about to make
Speaker 1: fun of a SEQ when jacket look at me, Now
Speaker 1: look at you. Now have friends and shoulder pads in
Speaker 1: that one though, so I only have one set. I
Speaker 1: had two sets in that one. We're saying rocky top
Speaker 1: at Miss Kentucky for my talent. Clearly there were some
Speaker 1: things that I had figured out yet. But you know,
Speaker 1: you're just working out, you're just doing it, you're going
Speaker 1: all in, diving in. Yes. So I got top ten
Speaker 1: that that year, Miss Congeniality. I was like, okay, now
Speaker 1: I gotta come back. I gotta win this thing. Got
Speaker 1: real serious about it, really like stressed and like what
Speaker 1: do you think my hairs should be? What color do
Speaker 1: you think my dress should be? He you're getting detail? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know how sometimes you think like I want
Speaker 1: to do this, and then you listen to everybody else,
Speaker 1: but you're dying self when yourself is who like knows
Speaker 1: how are you gonna look the best? So I listened
Speaker 1: to all these people and I thought it was about
Speaker 1: being perfect and have everything right, and that is the
Speaker 1: most opposite from me. So that year I didn't win,
Speaker 1: and I thought that was the year I was gonna win.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna go Miss American, move on with
Speaker 1: my life. And I was fourth runner. And that was
Speaker 1: the thing in my life that happened. I've lost anything before, okay,
Speaker 1: and that was the thing that happened. Now I love
Speaker 1: to lose, tell me, because every time I've lost something
Speaker 1: in my life, like, not only is it like you
Speaker 1: come beg you try harder. But every time, like another
Speaker 1: door opened for me. Can I like focus on that
Speaker 1: for a second, because that is the thing in life
Speaker 1: that is very hard to learn in the beginning, like
Speaker 1: those first few times that you're learning that, like, and
Speaker 1: we talk about this, you do not have face planning
Speaker 1: hard and stuff like we've given in our all and
Speaker 1: it just like didn't well face plan for for us.
Speaker 1: It's all relative. But once you face plant and you
Speaker 1: realize that, okay, well shoot, that sucked, and this really
Speaker 1: is painful experience and I don't like the man in feeling,
Speaker 1: But once you survive it, it's like a whole new
Speaker 1: worlds the best, Like, thank God I lost, Like I'm
Speaker 1: so glad. Okay, so tell you why I thank God?
Speaker 1: What did that lead to? I mean, so like obviously
Speaker 1: then it led me to the next year where I
Speaker 1: like let go of a lot of things. It was
Speaker 1: my last you to compte for Miss Kentucky. This is
Speaker 1: the last chance I wanted to be Miss Kentucky. I
Speaker 1: wanted to be Miss America, Like I wanted to do
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and you know, I just kind of
Speaker 1: like let go of things. You like a song I
Speaker 1: wanted to sing everybody's like, you'll never win with that song.
Speaker 1: So you you decided to do you? I decided to
Speaker 1: just do it myself. All these people that were telling
Speaker 1: me how to do it had never want a pageant.
Speaker 1: They weren't Miss America, right, So I was like, why
Speaker 1: am I listening to them? And for myself, I feel
Speaker 1: like so many people do that in careers. They like
Speaker 1: people tell them what to do or you shouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: You should look at and be like, did you did
Speaker 1: you do? When have you done? You do that? So
Speaker 1: like listen so true, so ill let it go and like,
Speaker 1: my it's so funny. This is a funny story. So
Speaker 1: like I kind of lost my mind there at the
Speaker 1: end before I decided to let it all go because
Speaker 1: I was so stressed and you're trying to keep it
Speaker 1: all so tight and right. And so I called my mom.
Speaker 1: And my mom was on our four siblings, My youngest
Speaker 1: brother was in the eighth grade and they go on
Speaker 1: the floor. There's five three. So I'm so they were
Speaker 1: on this trip this Washington, d C. He went to
Speaker 1: Catholic school. They were like visiting all these places and
Speaker 1: they were visiting a cathedral. And I called my mom,
Speaker 1: and I like had lost my mind. I was like, Mom,
Speaker 1: I can't. I don't know, I can't. I can't do
Speaker 1: anymore to stressful. I feel like it's just not my time.
Speaker 1: Look and like I just totally lost it. And usually
Speaker 1: my mom's like, you're gonna think right, And at that
Speaker 1: point in time, she'd heard it so many times and
Speaker 1: she was like, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 1: I gotta ask the Lord of something. So she walks
Speaker 1: in and they were going into cathedral. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: So the kids had already gone in. There are a
Speaker 1: big Catholic family. Yeah, so and like we're like, you
Speaker 1: got sometimes you've got to be like Jesus, God, whoever
Speaker 1: you're talking to, you gotta send me something right now.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna send me a sign. So my mom was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what to do, this crazy child of mine,
Speaker 1: and she's like, send me a sign. She like knelt
Speaker 1: down that church and said that prayer, and she looked
Speaker 1: up and the mosaic behind the whole altar was a
Speaker 1: huge It was a picture of Jesus putting a crown
Speaker 1: on Mary's head and said on her head will be
Speaker 1: placed a crown of twelve stars, and my I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, oh my god. I mean that's how he
Speaker 1: and I mean I mean whether your religious person or not.
Speaker 1: Like I feel like sometimes the universe they sent you
Speaker 1: those signs. I totally agree if you're willing to look
Speaker 1: for them. And the funny thing is my mom could
Speaker 1: have been like walk out of that church and been like,
Speaker 1: I saw this thing and you're gonna win. But she didn't.
Speaker 1: She didn't even tell me she saw that. She knew
Speaker 1: in her heart I gotta keep supporting her, and it
Speaker 1: has that assigned for her. So then she just gave
Speaker 1: you confidence to carry on, like you're gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: So I did it already knew you were gonna win.
Speaker 1: She knew yeah, and she like knew it in her core.
Speaker 1: Jesus told her so, and Jess, oh, oh, it's funny.
Speaker 1: So then I went to Miss America and um, the
Speaker 1: year of Miss Kentucky was just a joy. I feel
Speaker 1: like I was built for something like that. I was
Speaker 1: on my hands knees, like at the County Fair doing
Speaker 1: these watermelonting contests and stuff like, because it's a cool role.
Speaker 1: You know, a lot of pageants sometimes are played out
Speaker 1: there's so much more to it than that, and it
Speaker 1: put me in such a cool place where like what
Speaker 1: I was before, in the person that I was, it
Speaker 1: was extra bird and you want to help people and
Speaker 1: you want to talk to people and to inspire people.
Speaker 1: It was just it was the best time. It's the beauty,
Speaker 1: it's performance, it's everything. It was everything I like to do.
Speaker 1: So that's Miss America. And I was runner up, like
Speaker 1: almost one what I didn't want to win at the end,
Speaker 1: I don't think why. I don't know. I just decided.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, I've han't such a
Speaker 1: great time being Miss Kentucky. And in the back of
Speaker 1: my mind maybe I felt like I was supposed to
Speaker 1: do something else, something more, and by god, if I
Speaker 1: didn't lose that pageant. I got a call the next week, like,
Speaker 1: you want to do amazing, right, So that's what you
Speaker 1: got two amazing right. So if you would have actually
Speaker 1: won Miss America, done it, you could have done you
Speaker 1: could have done Amazing Race. Yeah. And then if I
Speaker 1: hadn't won the first season Amazing Race, I couldn't have
Speaker 1: done a second. And if I hadn't won the second
Speaker 1: season Amazing rist I couldn't done the third right. If
Speaker 1: you would have won the first time you didn amazing race,
Speaker 1: you'd have never been invited back. Losing is the best.
Speaker 1: Losing is the best. It's that interesting, I swear to you. Okay,
Speaker 1: So now you're a YouTube star? Oh no, you are? You?
Speaker 1: Are you? Okay? I just have to I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to start this because you have so much stuff, content, things,
Speaker 1: talent to offer the world. And I am just not
Speaker 1: learning about YouTube because I haven't figured it out. But
Speaker 1: I went to your channel recently and I've been watching
Speaker 1: it every day. How do you do all this? Explain
Speaker 1: to me what it is because it's amazing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you would crush it on YouTube, but I don't have
Speaker 1: the stamina and the energy like you need to do this.
Speaker 1: It's like running an operation all the time. I think
Speaker 1: for YouTube, there are a lot of different people on YouTube,
Speaker 1: but from me, it was perfect. One thing before you started, though,
Speaker 1: you told me before you started your YouTube thing, you go,
Speaker 1: I want to become a YouTube like person, influencer, whatever
Speaker 1: you call this, and then you just did it. You
Speaker 1: did it wasn't like a year. Well, just like all
Speaker 1: the things you've done in your life started. You envision
Speaker 1: it and like you just can do it. But you
Speaker 1: just did it with the weird you have like fifty
Speaker 1: thousand subscribers already. I know you feel like it's never enough.
Speaker 1: You have to celebrate your successes. That's something that you
Speaker 1: have to learn in this world and in this influencer
Speaker 1: business and YouTube in general, Like you have to celebrate
Speaker 1: your successes. I mean, it's awesome that I can do
Speaker 1: all these random things I've done in my life, I
Speaker 1: can put all those together and I can literally like
Speaker 1: do whatever I want to do. But there's a home
Speaker 1: from all. Yes, there's a home from all on that
Speaker 1: and that's what's awesome. Like two years ago after doing
Speaker 1: Miss American, an amazing race, and then I filmed travel
Speaker 1: shows and stuff, pilots and all these like you've been
Speaker 1: in the TV world forever and where are the pilots?
Speaker 1: Where did the shows go? Like you give your whole
Speaker 1: heart and soul, it's like where is it? And they
Speaker 1: say it's for sure going to get picked up. Oh god,
Speaker 1: if I haven't heard that once, I've heard it a
Speaker 1: million time. Never gets picked up and something as you
Speaker 1: let yourself believe that it will, and then it doesn't.
Speaker 1: But once again, you love to lose said thank you
Speaker 1: for letting me against So I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: two years ago, I was like, how am I gonna
Speaker 1: bring all this random crap together? And how am I
Speaker 1: gonna make it into a job. How am I gonna
Speaker 1: make it into a job and a career in a
Speaker 1: long time career. Everybody's doing these blogs blogs, So I
Speaker 1: was like, what should I do? A blog? So I
Speaker 1: started a blog. Three weeks later, I started YouTube channel,
Speaker 1: signed with management, almost immediately started pulling the brand deals.
Speaker 1: I did the Chevrolet, the c Mayfest and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: like right off out of the gate. And I feel
Speaker 1: like it was meant to be for me, and so
Speaker 1: tell me why it's meant to be for you. I
Speaker 1: just feel like for me, I can't get pigeonholding to
Speaker 1: doing one thing. And I think that's why I like,
Speaker 1: I never much to do. I couldn't settle in a
Speaker 1: music career. Yes, like singing was my talent and everything,
Speaker 1: but I want to do so many different things. And
Speaker 1: I knew if I signed a record dealer, if I
Speaker 1: you know, if I had the opportunity to do something
Speaker 1: like that, that's when that was gonna be what I
Speaker 1: was gonna be doing. That's it. One thing. Maybe you
Speaker 1: could do like something else later, yeah, but you can't
Speaker 1: do I love to have like a portfolio life where
Speaker 1: I'm doing like all these different things. And luckily that's
Speaker 1: why I never signed with management, because they were like,
Speaker 1: so what do you want us to represent you for?
Speaker 1: What do you want to what do you do? And
Speaker 1: I'm like I knew this and this and this and this,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, so yeah, YouTube is awesome for
Speaker 1: me because I can do everything and then you just
Speaker 1: start growing right away. For you, it did, but I
Speaker 1: wish that it would grow quicker. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where like, that's where a lot of people, I think,
Speaker 1: like move on from this because this influence or world
Speaker 1: because you can look at numbers and stuff where you
Speaker 1: can look at engagement. And my followers are followers, they
Speaker 1: are fans, and they are regardless of I have ninety
Speaker 1: thousand followers on Instagram. I'm getting the same kind of
Speaker 1: engagement that people with a million followers get. And I
Speaker 1: have to every day be like thank you for for this,
Speaker 1: thank you for YouTube, thank you for every single person
Speaker 1: watches like I feel like it's engaging. Not every single
Speaker 1: but you know, that's something to be thankful for. And
Speaker 1: I hope to grow organically and then turn into some
Speaker 1: sort of blend of like an Oprah and a Martha
Speaker 1: Stewart and a DJ called and another I don't know,
Speaker 1: I pick all the different ones. I'd like to have
Speaker 1: a little bit of Martha Stewart, a little bit of Oprah,
Speaker 1: a little bit of DJ Collet, and a little bit
Speaker 1: of Mother Teresa. Because he's so positive. Okay, you know
Speaker 1: he's the one that's like another one I don't know
Speaker 1: that is. He's like he's like, produces rap videos so old.
Speaker 1: I've got to get with it, you know. It's not
Speaker 1: I don't even know him that well. He's just like
Speaker 1: all so positive. I love I think positivity and you know,
Speaker 1: optimism and happiness and like energy, it just like feeds
Speaker 1: in multiplies. It definitely you get back. Yeah, And so
Speaker 1: I just you know, and like you said before, all
Speaker 1: these other pilots that you're shooting, it's like you shoot
Speaker 1: these pilots, where do they go? So now you're shooting
Speaker 1: this stuff and you're like, it's not to be wasted.
Speaker 1: It's there. Even if a thousand people watch it, Like
Speaker 1: a thousand people saw where all those pilots go. The
Speaker 1: we saw how many people saw the same. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: one person was like, yeah, yeah, it's so great. Like
Speaker 1: being able to sit in my living room and be
Speaker 1: able to listen to somebody say I'm getting ready to
Speaker 1: get married. I can't afford to How are somebody do
Speaker 1: my hair and makeup and be able to create a
Speaker 1: bridle makeup tutorial. Or somebody's saying I can't lose weight.
Speaker 1: I'm like, my lord, I'm weight loss video. Who knows
Speaker 1: I couldn't lose weight for twenty five years and I
Speaker 1: know a lot about that. I watched it, You're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is so easy. But then I was talking to
Speaker 1: a sister about it because I was like, Okay, I
Speaker 1: watched my lot of Urban's weight last thing, and I
Speaker 1: was like, she does the treadmill and fifteen incline for
Speaker 1: fifty minutes and does always outcrunches this kind. It's like,
Speaker 1: that is so hard to watch. Not for you, because
Speaker 1: you're an energizer, bunny, and when you find you say this,
Speaker 1: you know I want to find the quickest, fastest route
Speaker 1: to get what I want. It's always in my life,
Speaker 1: but you don't. You're not scared of hard work though.
Speaker 1: That's the key ingredient that you write. You will work
Speaker 1: your ass off, but you want to be quick and fast. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I don't like I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: feel like they have to master something before they jump
Speaker 1: head first into it. I've never wanted to make I
Speaker 1: didn't even watch YouTube before I became a YouTuber. I
Speaker 1: don't know anything about YouTube. I called it the YouTube.
Speaker 1: So like here I am two years later, like the
Speaker 1: YouTube is my job, and like I don't know anything
Speaker 1: about YouTube. And you don't have to master things, you
Speaker 1: just have to figure out. I figured out what works
Speaker 1: for me, So what works for you. I think I've
Speaker 1: always loved human beings. I love connecting to people just
Speaker 1: like you. And I think YouTube people are They're sitting
Speaker 1: in their living room with their laptop open. They're hungry
Speaker 1: for something, they're looking for something they don't have in
Speaker 1: their own life, or they can't figure out they need
Speaker 1: help or help or God something, or like somebody saying
Speaker 1: it wasn't always easy. Like they see you here in
Speaker 1: a sparkly jacket and like being like, oh, this stuff
Speaker 1: is awesome, and they send me packages and stuff, but
Speaker 1: it's not always easy. They need somebody that can, like
Speaker 1: you know, inspire them to live their best life. Do
Speaker 1: you share truth like the do you share the painful
Speaker 1: moments too? You have to so tell me some of
Speaker 1: the painful moments you've shared. I mean, like always when
Speaker 1: you grow up the oldest of all those kids, and
Speaker 1: like you're the perfect child, and you do all these
Speaker 1: things right. Whenever you start like losing, and whenever you
Speaker 1: start like having tough times, you're confused by that because
Speaker 1: like what it's not supposed to go like I'm supposed
Speaker 1: to like and that's not your image. It's not my image.
Speaker 1: Wasn't my image. But then, like you know, you have
Speaker 1: to embrace those things that teach you things. Also, I
Speaker 1: think too, like you can't be afraid to reinvent yourself,
Speaker 1: like when you fail at something, or like when something's
Speaker 1: just like not taking fire, when you feel right and something,
Speaker 1: you can't be afraid to reinvent yourself. I was started
Speaker 1: thinking like all these people might judge you or think failed,
Speaker 1: or like I was always saying, like I wanted to
Speaker 1: sing country music. I totally reinvented myself. And then after
Speaker 1: miss America. Totally reinvented myself doing travel stuff, totally reinvented myself.
Speaker 1: And just like you, you know, you can't be afraid
Speaker 1: to reinvent yourself completely. Do you feel like it gets
Speaker 1: easier once you start reinventing yourself? Like, do you think
Speaker 1: it gets easier to do it when you realize that
Speaker 1: really the failure is not what you thought of totally?
Speaker 1: How you say I love to lose. Yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love to lose. No one's new door. It does all
Speaker 1: new opportunities. And you know, I went through a really
Speaker 1: tough time in my life, like three and a half
Speaker 1: years ago, and I just was I thought I had
Speaker 1: so many expectations. I thought everybody expected me to do
Speaker 1: all these things that like I wasn't doing and all
Speaker 1: this old stuff. I was drinking too much, I was
Speaker 1: hooked on sleeping pills. I just you know, it was
Speaker 1: a tough, tough time. And you know, I was looking
Speaker 1: to like numb everything, all those tough things, and I
Speaker 1: stopped everything three and a half years ago. I have nothing.
Speaker 1: I'm like raw in the world. When something bad happens
Speaker 1: to me, I can't drink a glass of wine. Like
Speaker 1: you just feel it. You're just like all energy all
Speaker 1: the time. It was the best thing because I think
Speaker 1: when you have to go inside and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with me? Why am I feeling? Was that
Speaker 1: hard to give everything? Oh? Yes, it was hard, the
Speaker 1: hordest thing ever. But it's the best thing ever. Does
Speaker 1: it getting easier? Absolutely? Like now I don't even think
Speaker 1: about it, And I'm really grateful that, Like I got
Speaker 1: a deep dive every time something goes wrong, like I
Speaker 1: can't numb it out. I don't have the things that
Speaker 1: I used to to numb it out, so I have
Speaker 1: to got a deep dive. Like that's the tweet of
Speaker 1: the man. But like, thank goodness. So you just deal
Speaker 1: with your ship, Yeah, I got to. When you have
Speaker 1: something to come up, you have to like look at
Speaker 1: it in eyeballs and just like figure out how to
Speaker 1: move on. How great though, in the long run, it's
Speaker 1: so much better to deal with it up front than
Speaker 1: just let it snowbill and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you get like overwhelmed by your snowball. Yeah, And like
Speaker 1: in this world that we live in, like there it's
Speaker 1: like a grocery store of things that you can like
Speaker 1: numb yourself with anything, and not to say I still
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I over shop a little bit
Speaker 1: over what's your job? So it's okay, So but I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I don't hope for everyone to
Speaker 1: like go through something like I went through. But you
Speaker 1: hope that people learn a different way to do their lives.
Speaker 1: They learn to do that deep dab, they learned to
Speaker 1: you know, because when you brush and brush and brush
Speaker 1: stuff under a rug for so long, like then you
Speaker 1: gotta big a mountain in your living room. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: like what are you gonna do with that if you
Speaker 1: don't have the tools I had to learn. I don't now,
Speaker 1: not to say I don't. I have got some great therapists.
Speaker 1: I love therapy. I love it. I don't know why
Speaker 1: everyone thinks like therapy is bad things? Why would you
Speaker 1: not invest in yourself? To me, exactly, I'm living with
Speaker 1: this brain and this life. Why would I not invest
Speaker 1: in myself? Like, you want to live your best life,
Speaker 1: and you need help to live your best life. You
Speaker 1: need guidance. Sometimes you don't know the tools. I'm not
Speaker 1: a professional at certain things. Yeah, and like it's just
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I hope to be for people
Speaker 1: to you know, yes, I'm doing makeup and I'm talking
Speaker 1: about fashion and cooking videos, but there's something else I
Speaker 1: think that comes through, and that it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I can teach people. I can, I can I can
Speaker 1: show people, you know, how I got to the point
Speaker 1: that I'm at now, Like how I've gone through tough things,
Speaker 1: how like losing and help me win and how you know, positivity,
Speaker 1: enjoy and in ostivity is a key ingredient. I think.
Speaker 1: I think positivity and joy. I always say joy. I
Speaker 1: think that joy can change your life. And people always like, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you always been like that. Shoot, I was like
Speaker 1: laying on my floorballing crime for like a whole year.
Speaker 1: I was not always like that ball and Crown in
Speaker 1: the grocery storeball and Crown like in the line of
Speaker 1: the bands, trying to figure it out. And so like
Speaker 1: you can pull yourself up. You have to make the
Speaker 1: choice to do that to find joy every day, and like,
Speaker 1: look at life is totally like it's so cliche, but
Speaker 1: look at it, it's half full because every bad thing,
Speaker 1: like you can lead to something really good. And I
Speaker 1: just I always hope for people to find that in
Speaker 1: their lives and I was like, my god, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start a YouTube channel and I'm gonna cook a video
Speaker 1: on shown how to do makeup, and somehow that's going
Speaker 1: to come through and maybe I can help, you know,
Speaker 1: somebody with something like that. It's amazing. What you have
Speaker 1: done is amazing. You're gonna wrap up par a little bit,
Speaker 1: But tell me, because I think you're such an inspiring
Speaker 1: person and you've gone through so much, You've experienced so much.
Speaker 1: What do you think the point of life is? Oh? Man,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really it's a funny thing because everybody
Speaker 1: says it, and it's like, why does everybody not get it?
Speaker 1: I do think that the point of life is to
Speaker 1: bring joy to other people. Though I think the point
Speaker 1: of life I think birth you have to find it
Speaker 1: in yourself because you certainly can't bring it to other people.
Speaker 1: But I totally think like it's about figuring out how
Speaker 1: to be joyful and happy and live your life right.
Speaker 1: But it's more so about like how do you bring
Speaker 1: it to other people? I think you're totally bringing it
Speaker 1: to other people through podcasts. I think I'm totally you
Speaker 1: think you have to find what you love to do, though,
Speaker 1: like finding what the loving what you do is important.
Speaker 1: It is, yeah, but I've loved to do so many
Speaker 1: different things and I couldn't get caught up on like
Speaker 1: is this the thing? Yeah? I rode the waves like
Speaker 1: when they came along and like and they were the
Speaker 1: most random ways, but you were loving the ways. I
Speaker 1: loved it. I had the greatest time. But I think
Speaker 1: it's too because I've found joy and in a lot
Speaker 1: of different things, and I can always find it even
Speaker 1: in like the toughest times in my life, like I could,
Speaker 1: I could find how do you find keep it? Where
Speaker 1: do you go to to find enjoy in yourself? All
Speaker 1: different places? I can't go to that. I can't go
Speaker 1: to battle line anymore? Now, deep do you go to
Speaker 1: your faith? Or how do you my faith? A lot?
Speaker 1: I go to what I do a lot. I used
Speaker 1: to go to what I do like and that was
Speaker 1: like all but like you can't. Also, something else I
Speaker 1: learned in my life is like what you do doesn't
Speaker 1: define you. Amen to that and like people ask who
Speaker 1: are you? And I used to be like, oh this
Speaker 1: is and I did an amazing race and I did
Speaker 1: and I realized like once and I'm like, that's not
Speaker 1: who I am that's what you did. I'm like this
Speaker 1: human being. I like this, and I like that, and
Speaker 1: now I'm doing this and you know who you are
Speaker 1: is not like what you did. So I try to
Speaker 1: find a balance to find enjoying my work. It's hard
Speaker 1: to get off social media when everybody's being all positive
Speaker 1: and you're able to put positivity out there and do
Speaker 1: cool things, because I think you have to find a
Speaker 1: balance in your real life too, because I find joying
Speaker 1: cooking dinner for my brand new has adorable dude. And
Speaker 1: I find joy and I mean a lot of different things.
Speaker 1: I find joy in, like helping other people that are
Speaker 1: going through struggles because I've gone through struggles, and you know,
Speaker 1: I find joying a lot of different things. But I
Speaker 1: also find joy in trying to be satisfied with where
Speaker 1: I'm at because it's tough when the sky's limit it's
Speaker 1: a wild, wild west, like it is with influencers and
Speaker 1: doing what we do right now. You can do so
Speaker 1: many different things right now, But like, I have to
Speaker 1: celebrate where I am because you have come in a while,
Speaker 1: what you have accomplished when just a short time when
Speaker 1: the YouTube world is crazy, it's nice, but you just
Speaker 1: want more, I know, because once you reach one goal,
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden the world opens and there's
Speaker 1: a whole new set of opportunities and goals. But you know,
Speaker 1: what else would you do in this life if you
Speaker 1: don't have someone to keep striving exactly, you know. So
Speaker 1: I think that's good. Every new layer, you get a
Speaker 1: new set of opportunities, and anyone can achieve these things, anyone.
Speaker 1: I always say that there's room for everyone. I think
Speaker 1: when you find people in any industry that are strong
Speaker 1: arm and people that are trying to come in that
Speaker 1: won't give advice that won't help other people, those people,
Speaker 1: you know there's something within them that they're afraid they're
Speaker 1: not going to succeed or something. Because with me, I
Speaker 1: want to if someone's like, how do I do this?
Speaker 1: Because I want you to have as many as much
Speaker 1: as like hav how to do filters and editing and
Speaker 1: all this stuff they look and like because other people
Speaker 1: help me with that. And I've never understood why people
Speaker 1: don't help other people do the same things, because there
Speaker 1: is room for everyone. It's not all a competition, which
Speaker 1: is funny because I'm a really competitive person, I think,
Speaker 1: but like I'm competitive in competitions, but like I know
Speaker 1: when something's not a competition to right, like, because sometimes
Speaker 1: it's not. Sometimes it's just like you are meant to
Speaker 1: be the person that comes out to the top. You're
Speaker 1: meant to be. But if you're not, yeah, you get
Speaker 1: there and it shows you all these other opportunities. So um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm all about like helping other people. And you know,
Speaker 1: it sounds so cliche, but it's like I want to
Speaker 1: help people and I'm like, but are you do you?
Speaker 1: Because like you have, you have to find your outlet
Speaker 1: to like to do that, to spread what it is
Speaker 1: that you want to spread, to spread that message or
Speaker 1: that joy or that lipstick which brings people too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does, it does. Lips brings people joy. I love it. Okay,
Speaker 1: So the last question, I'm sure time you just had
Speaker 1: this beautiful hair. It just it looks so good. But
Speaker 1: I like to wrap up my interviews with leave your light.
Speaker 1: So this whole thing has been inspiring obviously, but leave
Speaker 1: some inspiration of how you have been inspired or how
Speaker 1: you would like to inspire people. How I have been inspired,
Speaker 1: Lord have mercy. You know, I've been really lucky. Caroline
Speaker 1: in my life. I think to have so many inspirational people,
Speaker 1: Like anytime I needed to be inspired, all those people
Speaker 1: were readily available. I think you have to look to
Speaker 1: other people for inspiration, to other things for inspiration a
Speaker 1: lot of times. Um so gosh, so many people have
Speaker 1: inspired me. My dad inspires me all the time because
Speaker 1: my dad is all that living life to the fullest
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty thou percent. He never and he
Speaker 1: never lacks. Yeah, so that's inspiring to me because my
Speaker 1: dad has built incredible multimillion dollar companies. Incredible, but it's
Speaker 1: zero percent is about like that kind of monetary success
Speaker 1: or like being acknowledged by as peers for doing certain
Speaker 1: things and being a pioneer in in an industry. Like
Speaker 1: he finds success in his own happiness. And that inspires
Speaker 1: me because yes, like what if I get ten million
Speaker 1: you YouTube subscribers, Like that's gonna be so awesome. But
Speaker 1: like if I look at all the people that have
Speaker 1: had major success like that, they always come back down
Speaker 1: and like come back and they're like I found it
Speaker 1: within myself and like that's not what made me happy.
Speaker 1: That's aspiring to me. Yeah, And I think to inspire
Speaker 1: the people you know like I say, like I've said
Speaker 1: through this whole interview, like when you don't make it
Speaker 1: to the top, like whatever you thought it was that
Speaker 1: you were supposed to win and achieve, like just no,
Speaker 1: look at my life and look at your life, and
Speaker 1: so many opportunities that are even better than what you
Speaker 1: thought was. The top can come out of like losing
Speaker 1: something or failing at something, and the open be open.
Speaker 1: And then like finally like just be have joy, have joy,
Speaker 1: strive for joy and energy and positivity. And even when
Speaker 1: you follow in your face and it's the worse in
Speaker 1: your life and you don't want to live another day,
Speaker 1: like know that you can literally, if you make it
Speaker 1: through that, be the most joyful person on the face
Speaker 1: of the earth. Like it's all in your hands. I
Speaker 1: think that's probably it dropped the Mike Mallory telling you.
Speaker 1: I am telling you you are going to be your own.
Speaker 1: You are going to be your own Martha Stewart, Oprah,
Speaker 1: the whole brand. Thank you. I'm so happy to know you.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to know you. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: And you're gonna sing apella song well shall well, yeah,
Speaker 1: we have a stage We're gonna do or should we
Speaker 1: just do it right here. Since we're sitting down, you
Speaker 1: gonna stand up on the stage. No, not stand let's
Speaker 1: up on the stage. We're gonna we're you know what,
Speaker 1: We're gonna take Mollar to the stage and she's gonna
Speaker 1: just one acaphola song. Okay, Like, what's should I say?
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Speaker 1: this song? Well? I didn't not singing the song until
Speaker 1: just now, so I hope it's gonna be Okay, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be great. So what are you gonna say this? So,
Speaker 1: since we talked about Miss America, should have do Miss
Speaker 1: America's song my own pageant rendition? What's goes? We're so
Speaker 1: long since I sang a song? But I'm missing in songs? Okay,
Speaker 1: take it away? Okay, so this is on my own
Speaker 1: from l miss but my Miss America version of it? Okay,
Speaker 1: on my own. Pretending he's beside me, hold on, I
Speaker 1: walk with him till morning. Without him, I feel his
Speaker 1: arms around me. Then when I lose my way, close
Speaker 1: my eyes and here has fine me. And I know
Speaker 1: it's only in my mind that I'm I'm talking to myself.
Speaker 1: I can't remember the key character. The thing I love
Speaker 1: about you is like you're like, yeah, I freaking love it.
Speaker 1: Oh you're the best. Thank you for having me. This
Speaker 1: was the motion's for joining me on my podcast. I
Speaker 1: know that you loved hearing from now Irvin. She's absolutely amazing,
Speaker 1: so full of light and energy and positivity. Oh I
Speaker 1: love her. So next week, I have Chuck Wicks in
Speaker 1: the house. What what? He came on hot to the
Speaker 1: country music scene with stealing Cinderella. That was my favorite song.
Speaker 1: He then went on to do Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1: He is an incredible singer, songwriter, musician, and now he's
Speaker 1: the host of America's morning show. So he is killing it.
Speaker 1: He has so many talents and he'll be joining us
Speaker 1: next week. So y'all get excited for Chuck Wicks.