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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeart Radio. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, Welcome to Question Love Supreme. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: Quest Love or had you realize the voice drop a

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Speaker 1: few really right?

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Speaker 2: That we got jokes?

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm just saying, when you know the weird

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Speaker 1: O Younger Big Show, I was like, hey, guys, were

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Speaker 1: younger be here? From when Teacher's here. I'm like, if

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Speaker 1: you've reached the ladies and gentlemen, this is Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Quest Love, Wait interest hit me? Should

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Speaker 1: I even say that we're you know, how is Webby

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Speaker 1: legit enough for us to be like for that to

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Speaker 1: be the preface to our title, like the Webby.

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Speaker 3: Winning, Webb winning Image nominated?

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 2: Who beat us?

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Speaker 1: Was that? Jamil?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, yeah, spread the love.

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Speaker 1: Spread the love anyway, miir?

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Speaker 4: If you try to say Webby winning enough times, it'll

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Speaker 4: be a hit on podcast.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know. I still feel some sort of

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Speaker 1: way that you know, we we've been Webby winning for

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Speaker 1: the longest, they haven't given us our first award, so

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Speaker 1: damn like, wait of it, yo, guys, this is this

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Speaker 1: is this is notable. Mm hmm normally like you if

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Speaker 1: it's like Lenny Kravitz on the show or someone of noting. No,

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Speaker 1: but I mean, like, okay, so thank you.

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Speaker 3: You can't show up.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: I've been around that seeing what should look like. I said,

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Speaker 3: I shoud command to wound.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, is matching her Lenny Kravit's energy right now?

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Speaker 1: Hager coming to play anyway? Yeah, so like you, Well,

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Speaker 1: obviously you're fine because you know you got new art,

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Speaker 1: working fans and everything behind you.

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Speaker 2: Oh I'm good.

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Speaker 3: I just can I just say something real QUI because

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Speaker 3: I usually don't. Sare no news about what I do

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Speaker 3: outside this show, but I'm just very excited number one

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Speaker 3: shout out some of other podcast loving Grid and Ja

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Speaker 3: dot L. But also because me and my godmother Diana

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Speaker 3: Williams are producing a book for my dad on all

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Speaker 3: his photography. We're gonna self published, and today we got

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Speaker 3: the word that a big publisher is like, I won't end,

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Speaker 3: So I just want to.

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Speaker 2: Let's go fucking go congrat.

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Speaker 1: What was this? What was this era of photography?

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Speaker 3: If you don't from the fifties to like the late eighties,

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Speaker 3: and I'm talking like from you know. He was the

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Speaker 3: photographer at the White House during the first met Black

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Speaker 3: Music Month event.

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Speaker 2: He's from the.

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Speaker 3: March on Washington to the twenty year anniversary, to make

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Speaker 3: it a holiday, just all the stuff.

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Speaker 1: We we got to interview ya one day, just so

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Speaker 1: we can find out about ourselves, all right. So, Bill,

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Speaker 1: even though I know that you're not Team in Canto, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm still acting like you are. I know, because all

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Speaker 1: your peeps are you know about to.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'd love to be team money Bags along

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Speaker 4: with being Team in Canto.

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Speaker 1: But you you created the thriller of Broadway albums. Yo? Yes,

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Speaker 1: so did you? My Hamlet a nice? So? I know

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Speaker 1: your Hamilton checks that are really nice?

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Speaker 2: They're okay?

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Speaker 4: So, uh, my girlfriend and I are getting a new condo.

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Speaker 5: Yes he said, yes, he said it.

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Speaker 4: So wait a minute, you're moving out of what we

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Speaker 4: can I'm staying in this place. But my girlfriend they're

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Speaker 4: selling we rented there, they're selling her place, so we're

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Speaker 4: buying a new place.

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Speaker 1: Well that's good man.

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Speaker 4: I'm not getting married. Everyone stopped with the knowing league

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Speaker 4: and everything. I've already been married.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe you, because Fante I was listening. I

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Speaker 1: happen to be listening to a classic episode when Fante

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Speaker 1: was happily divorced and thought that was how I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, good old days.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we should all have blistened happiness

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Speaker 1: that includes you to Steve happiness what Yeah, happiness is okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're happiness his thing?

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Speaker 6: Uh fanticolo? How man, everything's good, Man good. I'm happy

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Speaker 6: to have teacher here today. There's been a long time coming.

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Speaker 6: I feel like she's really one of the kind of

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Speaker 6: chronical unsung heroes of the genre, and I'm just really

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Speaker 6: happy to get her story today. So this has been

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Speaker 2: Man still too young for unsung.

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Speaker 3: Yeah song, but you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: We're singing her well. Yeah. As as uh Fante mentioned

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Speaker 1: about our aforementioned guests, I'm gonna actually make it, Afro

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Speaker 1: mentioned there you go. I knew that that bill would

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Speaker 1: Afro mentioned the two words that were you know, make

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Speaker 1: it official. O. Our guest today is an awesome, awesome

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Speaker 1: singer songwriter hailing from the city of Knowledge. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: heard that residence of does not like us, saying Knowledge

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Speaker 1: we don't care what you do.

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Speaker 5: It's just high.

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Speaker 1: I already know where this episode is going on, having

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Speaker 1: having written, having written for the for the likes of

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Speaker 1: Mary J. Blige, n Via Nivia, Navia, Nivia. I gotta,

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Speaker 1: I gotta, you know, I gotta get the Lucien and

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Speaker 1: the human right getting correct. I gotta get it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: She's named after the Lucien's first It's also Macy gray Rock,

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Speaker 1: feels Neo, many others that we could name her now

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Speaker 1: debut classic, the almost twenty years old Complex Simplicity, was

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Speaker 1: released to critical claim in two thousand and four, instantly

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Speaker 1: granting her praise from critics and a very loyal fan base.

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Speaker 1: We're very happy that she's doing us the honor of

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Speaker 1: chopping and mixing us for this long overdue conversation. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, please welcome to Quest of Supreme the one

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Speaker 1: and only Tidra Moses.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Hello, Hello, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna have to pull me some congyak

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Speaker 6: for this one, dude.

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Speaker 1: Now, really truly wish this was a visual show, because

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Speaker 1: this is the exact backdrop that Denise Williams was in

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Speaker 1: an empty there you go. Damned anyway, how were you?

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Speaker 1: Were you right now as we speak?

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Speaker 5: I'm in l A right now.

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Speaker 7: I live in Miami, though I'm oh.

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Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you live in Miami. I see, I see. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, thank you for coming to the show. I

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Speaker 1: have to say, I think did you ever come to

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Speaker 1: any of our grammy jams? I think we played together once, yes,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think we've ever spoken.

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Speaker 5: We've played together, we've spoken like I think it was

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Speaker 5: like a text or something once, yeah, but never really like, hey,

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Speaker 5: what's up?

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is all right talking there you go,

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Speaker 1: long overdue, long overdue? All right, Well, I'll start like

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Speaker 1: I start with everyone else where. Okay, so where were

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Speaker 1: you born? I know that you're hailing from New Orleans,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know if you were born there.

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Speaker 5: I was born in Jefferson Parish, which is right outside

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Speaker 5: of Orleans Parish, and that's pretty much New Orleans. So

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Speaker 5: I was born in Kenna, Louisiana, which is like the

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Speaker 5: suburbs of New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha?

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Speaker 1: So New Orleans and Jason, what uh your family situation

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Speaker 1: is it? Is it siblings or your parents?

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Speaker 5: I have two sisters, two brothers. Four of us are

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Speaker 5: from my mom and dad, and one is just from

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Speaker 5: my dad. Old gotcha.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell us what your first musical memory was?

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Speaker 5: Team Marie. My cousin was moving into a house behind

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Speaker 5: because everybody, you know, in the South, we all.

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Speaker 7: Live around each other and only lives around each other, so.

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Speaker 5: We would cut gates or or cut like little paths

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Speaker 5: back from my teach's house to my cousin who was

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Speaker 5: moving to the house behind. And the whole time she

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Speaker 5: was unpacking, she was just playing that square of it

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Speaker 5: is a I was really little, but that shit was hard.

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Speaker 5: I loved it. I just I was a little kid

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Speaker 5: loving Tein Marie. That's my first. I guess gospel was

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Speaker 5: my first, because church. But the first time I really

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Speaker 1: Teamory because it must be magic album.

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Speaker 5: That was your yeah, that one, Yes they lost you,

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Speaker 5: that yeah, It's so good. And she was just unpacking

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Speaker 5: her first place, you know, And I was just watching that.

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Speaker 7: I was loving the music.

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Speaker 5: And I was supposed to be helping, but I was

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Speaker 7: I couldn't really help. But that's my first memory of music.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you uh uh any experience like did you

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Speaker 5: I watched, and I think church made me feel like

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Speaker 5: I wasn't going to be I felt like I wasn't

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Speaker 5: church like. I come from Southern Mathist church and my

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Speaker 7: Circuit of gospel.

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Speaker 5: So they had such really powerful voices that I think

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Speaker 5: I just never thought I was good enough.

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Speaker 1: What was your mother's name, Shirley Moses? Okay, and so

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Speaker 1: she pretty much for the same thing, a mire.

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Speaker 7: That's so weird that you said she was looking like that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, exactly didn't have a gospel southern gospel

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Speaker 1: belter voice, so she felt like, you know, she had

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Speaker 1: blend in with the the the rest of the choir.

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Speaker 1: You didn't do or anything.

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Speaker 5: No, and I left New Orleans kind of before I

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Speaker 5: developed my voice. I would walk around the house singing

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Speaker 5: I had to develop my voice. Yet I didn't develop

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Speaker 5: didn't really go to church as much. And it wasn't

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Speaker 5: sudden back it's it was just more like non the national,

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Speaker 5: not the dominational type music, which is totally different.

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Speaker 1: Okay, your experience in New Orleans is it? Could you

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Speaker 1: describe what the environment was? You know, oftentimes I think

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Speaker 1: everyone in New Orleans either you know, has second line

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Speaker 1: experiences or you know, it's it's almost like if if

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Speaker 1: if the movie Fame were a city, I would imagine

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Speaker 1: it would be New Orleans where people just bust out,

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Speaker 1: like you know, everyone has to sing or do something

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Speaker 1: musical just to just to live or breathe or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Was that the experience were you down there, like it's.

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Speaker 5: Just music everywhere all day, even if it's not down

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Speaker 5: to like, but even it's not as as extensive as

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Speaker 5: the second line. You know, you in New Orleans. It's

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Speaker 5: music and partying all the time, music, partying and.

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Speaker 2: Drinking and drink and eating.

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Speaker 7: And eating and eating.

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Speaker 5: This is happening to New Orleans.

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Speaker 2: I just know, pounds. You just gotta just just give

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Speaker 2: yourself that grace because you.

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Speaker 5: It's like in New Orleans. Growing up in Orleans' music

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Speaker 5: I just know the music.

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Speaker 6: It was a club them man, they was getting it.

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Speaker 5: Because it's it's a little bit more cajun Ish than Creole,

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Speaker 5: we eat our gumbowl with rice, okay, with with like

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Speaker 5: I can cook, I can really cook. But here's the thing,

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Speaker 7: I mean, nobody's gonna leave my table, not keys or

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Speaker 5: But that's the whole story.

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Speaker 1: Believe this is what I'm seeing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Like, what's you're trained to do in the South?

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Speaker 5: You train in those areas you go you know, you

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Speaker 7: Your bedroom, your kitchen, you get that together.

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Speaker 5: You got everything that got mean your workout game must

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, because you gotta have energy and you gotta

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Speaker 1: Okay, And I'm at Wallstford's written now I forgot interview.

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Speaker 6: So I was thinking about you. You're talking about your

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Speaker 6: l A days. I didn't know talk about your days

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Speaker 6: with the Good Life Cafe that I understood you came

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Speaker 5: So, yeah, I moved to la at fourteen, and I

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Speaker 5: And so we would travel into the city to get

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Speaker 5: hip hop. And I also was with my sons, my

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Speaker 5: I would just it was amazing. It was in retrospect,

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Speaker 3: Who else was in the Good Life Because I think

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Speaker 5: I would witness it. I would witness it because they

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Speaker 7: The one that I probably would probably was more verse.

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Speaker 5: With was Unity.

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Speaker 7: Bigger b I think his name was.

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Speaker 5: He did this thing called Unity, Yeah, and he had

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Speaker 5: Life and I would be around that. But what I

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Speaker 5: that I was around a few times. Unity was to

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Speaker 5: I think the first person that kind of had this

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Speaker 5: Jam Army guys. Yeah, but Bigger B was like that

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Speaker 7: Lovers, you know, And I was just kind of like

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I was gonna say that. It just hit

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Speaker 1: me that my first year at Fallon, this new filmmaker

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Speaker 1: think it was called This Is It was called this

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Speaker 1: is the Life I think. Yeah, but has that has

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Speaker 1: that officially? Have you guys seen it? Has it officially

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Speaker 5: Or I thought it was. Yeah, it was a show

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Speaker 5: I think, I think I don't really like but maybe

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Speaker 5: that's not what I saw. But I saw a documentary

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, it was the first joint. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: It's such a you know, it's like damning someone to

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Speaker 2: But critically, you know, if you're a fan.

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Speaker 1: Of like Freestyle Fellowship, the Jurassic Five Cats, that's very

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Speaker 5: People can ask a question really quickly. Why do more

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Speaker 2: Bizarre Ride.

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Speaker 3: Bizarre Ride, I mean, that's it, That's that's Midnight Marauders.

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Speaker 7: Let's come up.

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Speaker 1: Like that, because the thing is is that unfortunately, I

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Speaker 1: here's the thing Eminem will say all day that literally

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Speaker 1: stuff like Bizarre Ride to the Far Side was Eminem's

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Speaker 1: Like if you listen to him rhyme and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: far Side. Yeah, you're right, definitely for a lot of

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Speaker 6: Nah for us, it was for us on this side,

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Speaker 2: Alcoholics man listen then was my nigga. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Actually they've reunited with the is it Booty Brown that's

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Speaker 1: Fat Lip is battle, so now it's bat Lip. Uh

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Speaker 1: everybody is for everything the money. Yeah, man, that that

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Speaker 5: Much too too. I just love what they did, and

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Speaker 1: All Right, My gift to hip hop is I got

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Speaker 1: to start a life coaching service for rappers. No, it's real,

440
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Speaker 1: Like I'm currently I don't even know if I just

441
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Speaker 1: say this. I'm trying to get my life coach to

442
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Speaker 1: talk to both Run and D about how much valuable

443
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Speaker 1: time they are wasting because I mean, run the MC

444
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Speaker 1: is like are rolling stones, yo, and for them to

445
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Speaker 1: just it's a communication is And I've talked to both

446
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Speaker 1: of them and they're down to like, yeah, okay, how

447
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Speaker 1: do life coach like leg like hip hop needs this

448
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Speaker 1: and if you can, you.

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Speaker 3: Got to get the guys together, you basically they got

450
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Speaker 3: to be together so that we can champion them so

451
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Speaker 3: then they can really win and we can champion them

452
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Speaker 3: like a lot of these other legends.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so right now, the Far Side is back as

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Speaker 1: the Far Side, although technically now they spell it with

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Speaker 1: an F and not a pH, So I'm assuming spun

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Speaker 1: on his head. You don't. You don't know what's happening

457
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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: With the like no idea, none of this is that

459
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Speaker 2: not with that? Yeah, so they they're there now.

460
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Speaker 1: If you go on their Instagram page as the Far

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Speaker 1: Side to words F A R, S I D E.

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Speaker 2: Like the cartoon. Yeah, right, Like how is that?

463
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, it's it's it's three fourths of them are

464
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Speaker 1: back now.

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Speaker 6: So were you and Brass were y'all pursuing music at

466
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Speaker 6: the same time at that time coming up or were

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Speaker 6: you just were you like actually prefinded singing as well,

468
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Speaker 6: and he was rhyming or how.

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Speaker 5: Was y'all doing? I was pushing him, he was did

470
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Speaker 5: he know? You can say, no, he.

471
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Speaker 7: Didn't really know, Like I didn't really.

472
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Speaker 5: I did wardrobe for years, Like I would be around

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Speaker 5: I mean, Hype did my first video. I would be

474
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Speaker 5: around Hype.

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Speaker 8: He didn't.

476
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Speaker 7: He didn't know, like everybody just didn't know, because.

477
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Speaker 1: I Williams that, yeah.

478
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Speaker 3: He did.

479
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Speaker 5: I would be around ye, I would be around all

480
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Speaker 5: kind of executives because I did wardrobe.

481
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Speaker 7: I would be with raz a different places. I mean,

482
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Speaker 7: I just didn't talk about that because it was his time.

483
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Speaker 5: It was his time, you know. And I'm from the South,

484
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Speaker 5: you know, so I'm one of those women. It's like, Okay,

485
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Speaker 5: you do those and I trust that when it's my time,

486
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Speaker 5: I'll do mine, you know what I mean.

487
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Speaker 7: But we're gonna focus.

488
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Speaker 5: On you right now. But this just focuses stuff. It

489
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Speaker 5: came back to me, so I have to go figure

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Speaker 5: it out by myself.

491
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Speaker 7: But he did introduce me to the guy that did my.

492
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Speaker 5: First album with me, but he we didn't. He didn't

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Speaker 5: even know I really sing like that. I mean I

494
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Speaker 5: may have. He may have heard me singing a little bit,

495
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Speaker 5: and you know, I think I may have done some singing.

496
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Speaker 5: The teacher come do this song because he knew I

497
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Speaker 5: could sing a little, but it wasn't something that I

498
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Speaker 5: made a big deal about.

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Speaker 1: Did it weird him out when you finally became transparent

500
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Speaker 1: with your voice and sort of came out the shadows

501
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Speaker 1: like Okay, I'm singing, I'm pursuing this. Did it?

502
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Speaker 5: No? I don't think it weirded him out. I just

503
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Speaker 5: remember we worked together at this point. He introduced me

504
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Speaker 5: to the guy called Pauli. I did the first time

505
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Speaker 5: when we started working. Pauli started working, and then he

506
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Speaker 5: was supposed to be involved. He was supposed to be involved,

507
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Speaker 5: but I think it was just like, oh, it's my baby, mama,

508
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Speaker 5: she's singing, you know what I mean. I remember one

509
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Speaker 5: day we were driving somewhere and he was like, this

510
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Speaker 5: is really good. We're going to make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: We asked that because yeah, I dated someone who never

512
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Speaker 1: revealed to me that she was a classically chained pianist.

513
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Speaker 1: Oh wow, So accidentally.

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Speaker 5: How long plus did you?

515
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Speaker 1: It was like it was like two years. Like I

516
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Speaker 1: think I shared this story before where I was late

517
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Speaker 1: for a sound check, had to circle back to the

518
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Speaker 1: hotel and I was in one of those weeks that

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Speaker 1: had a piano in it. She was this, I mean

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Speaker 1: it was like a couple of steps steps above, like

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Speaker 1: for at least I mean, was it like, like did

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Speaker 1: you like I walked in the room, like, what is this?

523
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Speaker 1: It's like two years like you didn't tell me, you know,

524
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Speaker 1: I played piano. So yeah, that that was that was

525
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Speaker 1: weird to me. That's what I meant, Like, did you

526
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Speaker 1: hold it back for so long?

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Speaker 5: No, he knew because I was. He knew I had

528
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Speaker 5: like a little bit. He knew I could sing a

529
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Speaker 5: little because he would hear me around the house singing,

530
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Speaker 5: you know, little.

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Speaker 1: Things like that. So you said that your first entry

532
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Speaker 1: into the business wasn't even with singing. It was with

533
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Speaker 1: fashion first.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. My best friend was a wardrobe She still is

535
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Speaker 5: to this day, designer Najra Kinzy. She was a wardrobe

536
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Speaker 5: stylist at the time, and I needed money. I got

537
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Speaker 5: laid off of my job from sitting there surfing the

538
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Speaker 5: internet too long. I was bored.

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Speaker 2: What was your job beforehand?

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Speaker 5: I was an administrator assistant administrator at a uh A

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Speaker 5: architectural firm that he'll built a high.

542
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Speaker 7: Oh I was bored, ship Girl, and.

543
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 5: The internet was new, so I would just be on

544
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Speaker 5: the internet looking at anything I could look at. And

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Speaker 5: this is back when it was dollar son.

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Speaker 1: Phone the phone. I'm shocked that she's.

547
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Speaker 5: Not a.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, right right, talk about you talk about being a

549
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Speaker 9: stylist in like that moment first of all, when you

550
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Speaker 9: felt comfortable enough to make the transition to.

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Speaker 3: Let people know, were you slowly letting people know, Like

552
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Speaker 3: would just sing a little bit while you're just you know,

553
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Speaker 3: fixing an outfit.

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Speaker 5: And somebody was like, no, and maybe that's what you're

555
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Speaker 5: supposed to do, but I think that's corny and ship

556
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Speaker 5: I think whatever you're there to do, that's what you do.

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Speaker 7: Yes, that's how I feel.

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Speaker 5: So I would be there putting on somebody's shoes or

559
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Speaker 5: rolling down you know, and even with like guys trying

560
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Speaker 5: to talk to you or whatever you need. I just

561
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Speaker 5: always kept it as a job. This I'll take care of

562
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Speaker 5: my sons, you know. So I just kept it the job.

563
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 5: And like I said, I would be around these different people, dancers, singers, artists,

564
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Speaker 5: all this stuff.

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Speaker 7: They're like, oh, hey, you teach your mobile and if

566
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Speaker 7: you smoke cannabis.

567
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Speaker 5: If you're in a on video sets, you're gonna be

568
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Speaker 5: in a circle with all kind of people, so they

569
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Speaker 5: know we're smoking together. Once you're in decided with somebody

570
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Speaker 5: that's your best friend, so we would all be around

571
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Speaker 5: smoking doing you know, in between, you know, stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: But I just never mentioned it because first of all,

573
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Speaker 5: I'm shy, which nobody knows that.

574
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Speaker 3: When it comes to her talent, I believe you're shot.

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Speaker 5: I don't like subjection, you know what I mean. So

576
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Speaker 5: if someone was to tell me I wasn't good, it

577
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 5: was gonna either get violent or sad. I was going to.

578
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Speaker 1: And you see him a little peky wired on us.

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Speaker 5: I'm better now.

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Speaker 7: But but the thing is, you go back, and I didn't.

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Speaker 1: You just out there.

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Speaker 7: I was young, you know, but no one knew.

583
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Speaker 5: No one knew because I was just doing my job

584
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Speaker 5: and I just was appreciative of what I was doing

585
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Speaker 5: at that time. And I remember Ras and I broke up,

586
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Speaker 5: and that's when I started pursuing it because it was like,

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Speaker 5: I can't just I saw my friend doing what she

588
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 5: loved and I stopped. I stopped doing, uh the wardrobe

589
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Speaker 5: style because I broke my leg. And while I was

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Speaker 5: sitting there on downtime and collecting my eighteen hundred dollars

591
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 5: a month in the what do you call it when

592
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Speaker 5: workers camp, I was like, are you gotta figure something out?

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Speaker 2: And did y'all have the twins at that point?

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Speaker 5: Y'all with full fledge in this thing? I was, they

595
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 5: were like three years old. I was, you know, res

596
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Speaker 5: and I went together. I was pretty much taking care

597
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Speaker 5: of itut myself. And it was like, you gotta figure

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Speaker 5: this out because I couldn't. I couldn't go work at

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Speaker 5: the post office, so I wouldn't be with those people

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Speaker 5: that killed anybody, you know what I mean? Like, I

601
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Speaker 5: couldn't do that.

602
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Speaker 1: But did you know you.

603
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Speaker 7: Could write a song?

604
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Speaker 3: And I'm like, did you know?

605
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Speaker 5: I say this? I'm saying that from the standpoint people,

606
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Speaker 5: you can't stifle things in you. You can't like suppress

607
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 5: these things. They come out wrong.

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Speaker 2: It's good.

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Speaker 5: So I did know I could write songs because I

610
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Speaker 5: would get all the rads, would get these packs from

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Speaker 5: Dave J Dilla, and that's who I would write over.

612
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 5: I would write over unreleased J Dilla beats and I

613
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Speaker 5: didn't even know who somebody. Wow. When he was getting

614
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: these tracks, I didn't know. I was just singing over

615
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 5: him and I loved Like Water for Chocolate. I love

616
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Speaker 5: that album so much. And eventually he told me, oh,

617
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Speaker 5: that's the same thing that, did you know?

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Speaker 7: And it came together. But I wrote so many songs.

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Speaker 5: Over I wrote like maybe to one beat, three and

620
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Speaker 5: four songs because that's what I had. Did you tell?

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Speaker 3: Did you?

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Speaker 5: And j Dela ever?

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Speaker 1: Did he ever know that?

624
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 5: Like?

625
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Speaker 8: Did you No?

626
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 5: I didn't.

627
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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 7: I never met this man.

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Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't know.

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Speaker 7: You know, I didn't know. I just loved music, and

631
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Speaker 7: so what RAS would have.

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Speaker 5: I would go through whatever he had, and I remember

633
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 5: he particularly had the CD from Jay Dilla, and I

634
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 5: would play those that CD over and over and write

635
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 5: songs to those. I would write over Prince Records. I

636
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 5: would write over already written songs that I would just

637
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Speaker 5: hear the music and start to formulate my own song

638
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 5: over the music.

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Speaker 2: That's harder.

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Speaker 6: That's that's harder than a lot of people realized, to

641
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Speaker 6: like write over oh god, yeah, to take yeah yeah,

642
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Speaker 6: Like to just take something that's already established and just

643
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Speaker 6: write a new song over that. To hear that in

644
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Speaker 6: a different way, like that's that's.

645
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Speaker 1: A skin book songs.

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Speaker 7: I did that often.

647
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Speaker 5: I just you know, I don't know if you guys

648
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Speaker 5: ever were in a place where you couldn't do it

649
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,239
Speaker 5: or didn't seem like a realistic thing for you. I

650
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Speaker 5: just wanted to do it. However, I could do it

651
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 5: because it was in me and it needed to come

652
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 5: out to the point that it was making me depressed

653
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Speaker 5: and sad.

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Speaker 7: I didn't even know why, you know, so I just

655
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Speaker 7: had to do it.

656
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 5: And I would just takes a computer and put it

657
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Speaker 5: in his CD and just start the CDs of beats

658
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Speaker 5: and yourself.

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Speaker 1: Can I ask one question, because the thing is is

660
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Speaker 1: this might be the only chance that we get to

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Speaker 1: ask a former stylist a question. Okay, And I'm also

662
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: you know, I'm I'm a I'm a I mean, I'm

663
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 1: a Kenya Barrass supporter and completed. So you know, Zoe's

664
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: character on Grownish is a stylist.

665
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: Now she is good for you and mayor.

666
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,839
Speaker 1: I'm supporting all my Kenya Bearrass projects. You know, thinking thing,

667
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: but my question is what is the process of being well?

668
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: First of all, who are your clients? Were these established music.

669
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, no, we were Will Smith's stylar team for

670
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 5: about two to three years. Police nas r Kelly.

671
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: These are good, these looks.

672
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, we would. My friend she had two of us

673
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 5: from high school. Were just high school friends like having fun,

674
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 5: you know, and so she was the key. Nanga was

675
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 5: the key, my other We were all three best friends.

676
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 5: Nanga was the key. I was more administrative, and my

677
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 5: friend Myisha Loong. She was also like a second in

678
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 5: line for like creative, and we would kind of like

679
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: the mod squad. I don't even heard of mod squad

680
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 5: with June Ambrose. Yeah, we were kind of like that.

681
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 5: And you know, we would be on different different sets.

682
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 5: She would have three jobs going the time. I'm on

683
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 5: this set just one of our set. We got assistants

684
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 5: under them. You know, we had a whole thing moving.

685
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 1: How do you secure Like, okay, so for me, my

686
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: crock obsessions getting a little crazy now, So how do

687
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: you secure accounts from? Do you go like from established

688
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: the companies and also from newer people, Like how do

689
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 1: you call them?

690
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 5: You just call them so you would back then That's

691
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 5: all we had to do was call them, send them

692
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 5: a letter, let them know that we're working facts, and

693
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 5: back then a letter let them know that we're working

694
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 5: on something and if they were interested in that, artists,

695
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 5: they would then it's product. And back then, you know,

696
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: back then, and it was like lots of money involved.

697
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 5: They gave you. People were giving a lot of things away,

698
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 5: so we could know. But even when we would come

699
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 5: in with a new maybe because we had top clients,

700
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 5: when we come in with a new artist, we could

701
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 5: get them all. So, I mean we would do projects

702
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 5: sometimes and pay for nothing because we could get so

703
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 5: much stuff for free from these different home companies. You

704
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 5: just kind of we just reached out.

705
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: But also know that it's problematic where an artist will

706
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: like an article or garment a little bit too much

707
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: and then you're not going to see it again. Yeah,

708
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: I've been I've been part of many video shoots where

709
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: it's like where are those Jordan's at? You know that

710
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: sort of so yeah.

711
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 5: But now in the product place and the situation they're

712
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 5: giving it to you. Now where you're when you're going

713
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 5: to a studio service, which is you know you probably

714
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 5: know this, really you go and you have to pull

715
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 5: clothes from you know, the different department stores or Gucci

716
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 5: whoever they let out the clothes on consignment.

717
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 7: This is where the problems came.

718
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: That's where the rappers. Boy, where the boys are like,

719
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: you know, you.

720
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 5: Might have to stand next to for all days, put

721
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 5: it in your bosom or something, because.

722
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 7: They will literally try to take it.

723
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: And then you know, you would be on sets with

724
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 5: rappers that had like fifty dudes from the hood, and

725
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 5: you're in the hood, you're not just you're in Queen's

726
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 5: Bridge with fifty people that's here, that's supposed to be here,

727
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 5: then hundreds of others that's not and five for two

728
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 5: one hundred and ten pounds, I have to protect this

729
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 5: whole trailer full of merchandise probably up.

730
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 7: To about a cool hundred thousand dollars.

731
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,959
Speaker 3: You know, you know you've been in a situation before

732
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: Tjer where you was like, I'm not.

733
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: People don't bridge, no.

734
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 3: But you heard what she said to me. She said,

735
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: people not even tested, not even tested, no, Because it's.

736
00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 5: Like, at the end of the day, I come from

737
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 5: a place where I know what's going on. Yeah, you know,

738
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 5: so when I see and I also talk to people

739
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 5: with respect and tell people what's really going on. Like

740
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 5: I got kids to feed don't mess me up. You

741
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 5: take this stuff and I'm mess you know, I got

742
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 5: to step from my pocket and you take it. You know,

743
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 5: So you talk to people like they're like, oh, baby girl,

744
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 5: it's all good. You know, I got whatever. And if

745
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 5: I could get you something, if I you know, cause

746
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 5: it'll be like some free sneak, cause here you go,

747
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 5: take this. This is what you get. You can't have

748
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: this just have to be paid for.

749
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: Just common sense, street sense, converce chucks. Thank you, teacher,

750
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: I appreciate that.

751
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 3: Exactly more stylus question, like, on that note, since you

752
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 3: talked about being in ciphers and being on sets and whatnot,

753
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 3: did your experiences as a stylist, uh, kind of make

754
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: you a little apprehensive about entering the music business.

755
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,359
Speaker 2: Or where was it?

756
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 3: Like, Okay, I feel like maybe I know a little

757
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 3: extra because I've been around.

758
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 2: On the other side. Yeah, yeah, you know, it.

759
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 5: Didn't make me apprehensive as much as it just may

760
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 5: like these people are crazy, you know as hell, Yeah

761
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 5: they're crazy, and it's different, you know what I mean.

762
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:52,280
Speaker 5: So like I learned then this is not real world.

763
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 5: Like you're from a place where when someone says, hey, teacher,

764
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 5: you know, they really mean that, they mean it. Where

765
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 5: I'm from a new role as your face is what

766
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 5: you see on somebody's face is what it is. And

767
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 5: now I'm in this situation where you cannot tell who's

768
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 5: real who you know.

769
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 7: So then I just got to this place so I

770
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 7: just assume everybody's faith.

771
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 5: And it helped me moving forward to and it helped

772
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 5: me moving forward in the music to realize that there

773
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 5: are way more of a people than I thought. You know,

774
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 5: when you start out thinking everybody's little phone in your faith,

775
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 5: then when you start to meet genuine people and you

776
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: connect with your tribe, it gets really cool. So it

777
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 5: helped me to think that I could endure it knowing

778
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 5: what I was getting into.

779
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: How did you make the transition from styling to songwriting.

780
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 5: I broke my leg. I broke my leg. We were

781
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 5: doing a job and like to pay the Canyon or

782
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: something like that, and I had taken time off, and

783
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 5: I was this was my first job back, because now

784
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 5: I'm hating style. You know, I got to the point

785
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 5: where I was hating styling just like I was hating

786
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 5: I broke my legs, and I just kind of like

787
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 5: I was heeling up to go back to something that not.

788
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,880
Speaker 5: I loved working with my friends and all this stuff.

789
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 5: But as much as I like clothes, I like put

790
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 5: them on myself. I'm not I'm not a person of

791
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 5: a service type of person. You know, I'm really an artist.

792
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 5: You know, I'm really an artist. So it was just

793
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 5: strange for me to kind of want to do this,

794
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 5: not open up my mouth and tell anybody I want

795
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 5: to do it, but I'm putting clothes on people that

796
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 5: are doing it and no envy of them. It just

797
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 5: became very frustrated, like I don't want to do this anymore.

798
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,480
Speaker 5: And God literally broke my leg and sat me down

799
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 5: and made me have to figure out what I really

800
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 5: wanted to do and come to terms with because I

801
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 5: already knew. Just come to terms with it, like go

802
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 5: for it. Rapped this something really followed me. He just

803
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 5: had to help me. He didn't have a choice. He

804
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 5: did something so fu he didn't have a choice to

805
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 5: deny me what I was asking. And that's kind of

806
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 5: how it started.

807
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: The summer.

808
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 6: Yeah, so okay, without getting into what he did. So

809
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 6: when you you say he you know he did you

810
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 6: was that did he put you on in some way?

811
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 5: Like with the job or right, and he just introduced

812
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 5: me to someone. The first person I went to sit

813
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: down with before I even went to go make my

814
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: album was Ritten Jerkins. He was working on my friend,

815
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 5: my friend, you guys have to parton me.

816
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 7: I smoke a lot of candidates in my brain together.

817
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 5: But my friend he worked with because at the time

818
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 5: we had worked with Will Smith for years, and my

819
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 5: friend he worked with Will Smith, and so he put

820
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 5: me he had he knew lots of different producers and

821
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 5: he was really good friends with Rodney Jerkins, and he

822
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 5: just would hear things. I don't know how he knew

823
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 5: I wrote, maybe I was, maybe I recorded something over

824
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: a beat, whatever, and I love him here because he

825
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 5: was my friend, so I didn't I don't let him

826
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 5: hear it whatever. And he was like your teacher. Come,

827
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 5: he's writing for Destiny's Child. Then he's working for working

828
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 5: on Justice Child's album, and now come to the studio

829
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: and meet Robby and blah blah blah blah. And that's

830
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,359
Speaker 5: like the first person I sat down with. And I

831
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 5: think that's when we got a rat started to take

832
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: it serious that I might really start doing this, you know.

833
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 5: And then when that thing happened, and then he's just like, Okay, cool,

834
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 5: I'll introduce you to Paul Paully and Paul Pauly and

835
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 5: I just started kind of getting a vibe going. And

836
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 5: Paul Pauley, I don't think, thought I was that good.

837
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 5: He was like, you gotta sing more, you gotta push more,

838
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 5: you goat blah blah blah. And I was thinking, I

839
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 5: don't really want to do that, but okay, I'll try

840
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: because I just wanted to. I just wanted to make music.

841
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 5: And we just kind of started going from there. But

842
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 5: I don't know was.

843
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 6: Paul was he Well, before we get into that, which

844
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 6: is your songwriting and stuff, dip it low?

845
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 2: How did that come up?

846
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 5: All of my songwriting came about while I was working

847
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 5: with Paul Paully working on my album. They were all

848
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 5: songs for me, every song I gave away until I

849
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 5: started to actively write songs for other which I learned

850
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 5: I wasn't really good at writing for other people. I

851
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 5: was better at writing songs for myself and then letting

852
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 5: them fit into my outfit, you know what I mean. So, yeah,

853
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 5: that's where all of my songs came from.

854
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: That is it hard writing for other people because you know,

855
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,560
Speaker 1: you would have to know their life experience in order

856
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: to speak for them.

857
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 5: I think quest is like goes back to being a stylist.

858
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 5: I ain't really want to do it, and I'm a Sagittarius,

859
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 5: and it's like we really want to do what we

860
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 5: want to do.

861
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 7: We so help and on doing we want to do.

862
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 5: So when I would sit down to write for people,

863
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 5: I don't think I cared enough about what their experience was,

864
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 5: you know, like I didn't get it. I didn't care

865
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 5: enough to get into them. I had to literally write

866
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 5: for people that were just singing my songs. It was

867
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 5: so hard for me to try to figure out what

868
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 5: this little young pop girl on. I just had to

869
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 5: just put myself in that place.

870
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 7: I couldn't consider them, you.

871
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: Know, even if it's a situation of a big client

872
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: that yeah, Mary J Blige.

873
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 5: I put myself in Mary J Blige's place. You know,

874
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 5: I couldn't be married. Plus I probably could be married

875
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 5: because you know she raised all of us, you know

876
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 5: what I mean. So, but the thing is like I

877
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 5: had to put my way of learning how to do

878
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 5: it was to say, okay, I'm to be commiss now

879
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 5: you becoming because trying to pull it out of them

880
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 5: or have these kinds. Some people it's just like a styling.

881
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 5: Some people don't know what they want to say. Fact,

882
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 5: you know, some people don't know what they want to do.

883
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 5: Very yeah, you know, it's very hard to pull personality

884
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 5: and all this stuff out of because you have understand also

885
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 5: at this time, we're doing better now. This time when

886
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 5: I was writing, it was trash out there. So I'm

887
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 5: coming in and I'm singing this song and it sounds

888
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 5: so great in the AARs like oh, and I was like,

889
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 5: I love it, I love it. I love that.

890
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 7: This is great, this is great, this is great.

891
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 5: But the bitch can't sing so that now she's trying

892
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 5: to sing this song and you hate this and now me,

893
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 5: you're looking at me, and.

894
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 2: I did my job.

895
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: Are you there? Nine times out of ten?

896
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 5: Uh?

897
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: For the vocal tracking like do they want you?

898
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 5: Sometimes sometimes and then sometimes not. But if I'm there,

899
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 5: you know what I'm doing. I'm putting voice on it.

900
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna lay myself all over this thing. We're

901
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 5: gonna straight up.

902
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: And that trick, that's trick.

903
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 5: You know, it just really hit me here are you

904
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 5: beating that?

905
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 2: Like I am here in journey and.

906
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: Everything I'm really I was thinking about this earlier. I

907
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 3: was like Teaser and Fonte are parade everything.

908
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,959
Speaker 5: Straight up and down.

909
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 2: We didn't talked on Twitter about doing something. Listen, No,

910
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 2: everything you're saying, it's coming.

911
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,399
Speaker 6: It's coming. We just over the right time, but it's coming.

912
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 6: But no, seriously, everything you're saying that was exactly like

913
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 6: what I saw, kind of like working as a songwriter,

914
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 6: and it was just one of those things where it's like, Okay,

915
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 6: I done wrote the song, I done sang it, and

916
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 6: then tracked it, produced it. I'm gonna keep this ship

917
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 6: for me, you know what I'm saying, Like, rather than

918
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 6: sending it to whoever else and.

919
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 7: Got a lot of money, I wasn't.

920
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 5: I've never been signed to a publishing company, so nobody

921
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 5: was putting me in the studios. It's been full home studios,

922
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 5: and I'm spending all this money to go on these

923
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 5: studio to write these songs. Now, you know what I mean.

924
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 5: I'm spending all my money going to Sometimes I would

925
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 5: go in and they will put me in or whatever.

926
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 5: But when you're gunning to just get a song to

927
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 5: an artist, you're you're gonna go and be proactive and

928
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 5: you know, figure it out yourself. And then you're loving it.

929
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 7: You're loving it, you love it, you love it.

930
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: And then we go in and she can't sing it,

931
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 5: and you're mad at me. And I just never understood that.

932
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 5: Like I said, we're doing better thanw We're getting artists

933
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 5: that can actually perform, you know, but back then it

934
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 5: was rough.

935
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was why I think we saw like pre autitude.

936
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,800
Speaker 5: These girls. You know, I was like, Lord Hellers.

937
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was Yeah, that was why I think we

938
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 6: saw like in like the early two thousands, like when

939
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 6: you saw like Neo Carrie Hillson who like Sean Garrett,

940
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 6: like you started seeing those songwriters kind of become artists.

941
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 6: Like I saw that shit coming. I'm like, all the

942
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 6: work that they're doing, yeah, they might as well put.

943
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: This out on it.

944
00:46:56,440 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 5: Let me add this, Fonte, the producers getting forty fives

945
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 5: on the.

946
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 2: Track and I'm getting let's talk about it. Let's talk

947
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 2: all the way about it, right, Let's hear y'all talk

948
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 2: about it.

949
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,200
Speaker 1: Talk about.

950
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 2: Man. Well, I let teach you.

951
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 7: You know, you're not getting paid.

952
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 5: You're not getting paid to the producer gets paid for

953
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 5: making a track, he gets a front in the back end.

954
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's changed out, because I don't

955
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:19,799
Speaker 5: really write for people like that no more.

956
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 7: My piece is with myself.

957
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 2: No, it's worse, it's even worse. I don't do it anymore.

958
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 2: But it's it's yeah, it's trash.

959
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: So you don't write on SPEC anymore. That's what songwriters

960
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: or songwriters are supposed to write on SPEC.

961
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:34,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm not. I'm not a work for hire person.

962
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 7: I'm just not there.

963
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: And I never really a publishing company. I found that

964
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 2: like whoa, Okay.

965
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 5: No, and I own my own stuff, so I'm gonna

966
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 5: eat either way because people like me and I can

967
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 5: just tell my own stuff and not be all right.

968
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: Take us on what's the beginning or the genesis of

969
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: what we now know is complex simplicity, Like the moment

970
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: where you're like, I'm on my.

971
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 5: Own list, this is my part I've been waiting for.

972
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: Let's go.

973
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:07,240
Speaker 7: Sour, that's the thing, right, Yeah.

974
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 5: Family is completely we're not coming back after this, right,

975
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 5: it's done.

976
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 7: We're not doing this after that. But I didn't take

977
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 7: them back because you know, that's how it was. But

978
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,000
Speaker 7: I moved to a new place left and we get back.

979
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 5: Together and then I'm like, Okay, I can't do this anymore.

980
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 5: He introduces me to this producer. But in this interim

981
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: of us not being together and the producer me, me and

982
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 5: the producer, my mom dies. That's my whole world. I'm

983
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 5: my family is everything to me. I was twenty four

984
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 5: five or something like that. I have these two sons.

985
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 5: The father is not he didn't want kids. He told

986
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 5: me that it was something he was where this and

987
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 5: I'm stuck. And it literally was like I don't know

988
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 5: how I was to explain it. What it was like.

989
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna breathe unless I got this stuff out

990
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 5: of me. You know, I wasn't gonna breathe unless I

991
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 5: got all this pain out of me. And that's really

992
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 5: where it came from. Me just writing, going every day

993
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 5: to Paula's houses in Glendelle and I lived in Pasadena,

994
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 5: which is very close to each other in LA and

995
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 5: going to his house every day and just you know,

996
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 5: first of all, the night before, sitting standing in front

997
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 5: of the Marita entire time, just writing so I don't

998
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 5: sing it to myself, you know, writing songs because trying

999
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 5: to make myself happy. I was very sad, and then

1000
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 5: going in the next day and laying these songs, and

1001
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 5: I remember we got down to this song that was

1002
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 5: called what's the last song on my album?

1003
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:35,560
Speaker 7: Do you remember the one to Mama?

1004
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 5: I think of you? Yeah, shout out to chanics. But anyway,

1005
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 5: so I was, I was trying to I was trying

1006
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 5: to perform it in the studio, and I just kept

1007
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 5: falling that they were they felt so bad for me.

1008
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 5: I literally would just keep trying to sing it, and

1009
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 5: if I would get one note out, I would fall

1010
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: down to the ground and just start crying because it's

1011
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 5: just a year after she had passed. And I really,

1012
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 5: when I look back and retrospect quas it was just

1013
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 5: me just trying to get all this pain. I didn't

1014
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 5: care about man of y'all hearing this record.

1015
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 7: I didn't care about if it was gonna be number one.

1016
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 5: That's why people want to seek for people say, oh

1017
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 5: my wish this would I had no you have to

1018
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 5: put intentions behind things.

1019
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 7: I had no intention.

1020
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 5: But to get it out, to get it happened, what

1021
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 5: happened to it. I didn't care. And then when one

1022
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 5: day Pauline was dropping me off at my house and

1023
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 5: he was leaving, and I was like, we should call

1024
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 5: it simplicit or something. I said it backwards. I said

1025
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 5: something like simple complexity or something like that, and people

1026
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 5: was like, yeah, complex simplicity.

1027
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:35,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1028
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 7: And then I started to think.

1029
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 5: About it, like maybe about a year after it came out,

1030
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 5: and it was like literally what my life was at

1031
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 5: that time. It was literally what my life was at

1032
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 5: that time, complex simplicity.

1033
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 10: I was just.

1034
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: Life happens. But I didn't understand that. I was too

1035
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 5: young to understand. People die, your man cheat and do

1036
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 5: horrible things to you.

1037
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 7: He might not even say you can see you got kids.

1038
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 5: You know. I wasn't it at Paul for the life

1039
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 5: I have fallen into, and complex simplicity was the beginning

1040
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 5: of me starting to understand my path and how I

1041
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 5: had to go. It was like, literally, like I guess

1042
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 5: it's just that was the diary of me growing up.

1043
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 6: Talk about Paul Paulie because I never knew, like I mean,

1044
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 6: I had never seen him produce. I don't know if

1045
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 6: he did anything after that, but Your Record was the

1046
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 6: first time I really saw him, you know, uh, really

1047
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 6: featured in that way.

1048
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 2: What was what was his story and what was his background.

1049
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 5: Uh, he is Armenian and comes from wealth. His family

1050
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: owned like Jewish studies and stuff like that. But he

1051
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 5: loved music. He loved me just so much. And I

1052
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,240
Speaker 5: think the thing I knew that he did before Complex

1053
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 5: Simplicity that did really well was that's the.

1054
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 7: Joint, that's the jam, turns it up.

1055
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,919
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, right, yeah, he did that. And he worked

1056
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 5: with Riz and you know, and I wasn't really eager

1057
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 5: to work with him. I wasn't at all. But the first,

1058
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 5: the very first song that he the first very first

1059
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 5: beat he gave me was cough on that caution to

1060
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 5: be no, let's put who song is that caught up y?

1061
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's the very verse beat he gave me.

1062
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 5: And that's the very first song I ever recorded, And

1063
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 5: that's on the like, that's the very first song I

1064
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 5: ever wrote in full. It's the very first song I

1065
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 5: ever recorded. And we just clicked right away.

1066
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 7: He's the Sagittary's too.

1067
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 3: Oh goodness, yeah, I know that was crazy, like oh

1068
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 3: that might be didn't want to stand until it was

1069
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:35,399
Speaker 3: this black lead.

1070
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 5: It was like he literally just starts screaming every like

1071
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 5: Plie Polly was a great guy, and like we I

1072
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 5: had a chance because we did an anniversary thing.

1073
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 7: You had a chance to see him.

1074
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 5: And he doesn't do music anymore, like you know, we

1075
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 5: went completely away from music, and you know, has a

1076
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: beautiful family and everything's actually he does the music. He

1077
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 5: does Christian music because it's say it turns to turn

1078
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 5: you out, make you go completely, it'll make you go

1079
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 5: may So you know what I'm saying.

1080
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 7: He chose that rot.

1081
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 5: But really great guy, very very still when I hear

1082
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,919
Speaker 5: stuff he does, you know its still got that same time.

1083
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, great guy.

1084
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 3: Can we just stay in complex and put simplicity for

1085
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 3: a second, because I wanted to ask you a question

1086
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: about songs, like I wanted to ask you know, you

1087
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: said you were on the studio crying and I was

1088
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 3: looking at the list and I was like, you'll never

1089
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,880
Speaker 3: find which could technically be like one of those songs,

1090
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 3: but it comes so hard, And I was curious about

1091
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,879
Speaker 3: the story behind that song too, like and I guess

1092
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: it's all rare.

1093
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:43,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, how much of this is all about.

1094
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm guessing all of it is.

1095
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 5: Which is the time I did.

1096
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 7: I didn't know that at the time they would be

1097
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 7: like this time about Rat.

1098
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, it's not because.

1099
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 7: It was pouring out so naturally.

1100
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 5: I didn't think it was about anything.

1101
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 7: I didn't know what I was doing, you know what

1102
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 7: I mean.

1103
00:53:56,040 --> 00:54:00,439
Speaker 5: I just was pouring out. And you'll never find what's

1104
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 5: the the lady I can't stand and right and people

1105
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: and people's see sample and she was singing, you know

1106
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 5: on that record, the samp that we sampled. You know,

1107
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 5: you'll never find a better woman or a bigger fool.

1108
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 5: So we knew. I knew that's what I was gonna

1109
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 5: build off of. When he told me the sample, man,

1110
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 5: you should hear me. And Paulie had this great thing,

1111
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 5: like I've never.

1112
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 7: Had this before in my life.

1113
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 5: The same thing like with me and Ras had this

1114
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 5: great thing and I've never had it again.

1115
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 7: It's like these two, those two.

1116
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 5: Guys, we had this connection that was something different. And

1117
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 5: with Paulie in the music side, we would sit there

1118
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 5: and like get so excited, you know what I mean,

1119
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,360
Speaker 5: so excited about the music. And so he would he

1120
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 5: let me hear the sample, and he was let me

1121
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 5: hear where it came from and let me hear what

1122
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 5: he did. It was really amazing, and I was like

1123
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 5: and he was just using a I think he used

1124
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 5: a bit of her singing in it, and I was like.

1125
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 7: Okay, that's what I'm gonna do.

1126
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 5: I'm gonna speak on that because I was going through

1127
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 5: a bunch of shit in my relationship at the time,

1128
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 5: and I was leaving. I hadn't left yet. I mean

1129
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 5: I was like one foot in, one foot out. You know,

1130
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 5: when you're a mother of somebody's children, they kind of

1131
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,840
Speaker 5: got access to you, probably up until five. So I

1132
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 5: always tell my homegirls like, if he got a baby,

1133
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 5: mama and he's still smashing kids, not five, because that's

1134
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:15,439
Speaker 5: just kind of how it goes. I don't know why,

1135
00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 5: but it does.

1136
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: So this is essentially wait, can I ask it? How

1137
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: familiar were you with Marvin Gayes here, my dear, and

1138
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: how much influence did that have? I mean, at what

1139
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 1: point did you realize that this wasn't just an album

1140
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:52,120
Speaker 1: of yours but this was your diary, your social media

1141
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,840
Speaker 1: you're Were there anything that was too t and I

1142
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: that you decided no, I can't put this verse on

1143
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: there or this this is everything not for sale?

1144
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 2: Not for sale?

1145
00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,400
Speaker 5: No I didn't. I didn't have that kind of stuff

1146
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 5: or for cool at the time, I just was doing

1147
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 5: whatever came out. I didn't know to filter myself. But

1148
00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 5: let's let's let me tell you this. I had heard

1149
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 5: Here my Dear, great.

1150
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 7: Album, blah blah blah, but not really paying attention.

1151
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 5: You know. I hadn't really paid attention like that until afterwards,

1152
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 5: I was. I got into it and I connected with

1153
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,760
Speaker 5: it so very much.

1154
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 7: I heard it before, but I think not until.

1155
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 5: I lived that and then experienced it after it. And

1156
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 5: I remember one time I pulled up the Blakesleep and

1157
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 5: I was playing.

1158
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,719
Speaker 7: I was playing Here my Dear, and hand was like,

1159
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 7: don't listen to that.

1160
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:48,759
Speaker 5: No, don't. He was like that to yourself, don't listen

1161
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 5: to that that you shouldn't you want to be happy,

1162
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 5: don't listen to that. I mean, it was just like

1163
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 5: I didn't know. I didn't to say when you asked,

1164
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 5: when did I know? It was my dad diary. Plus

1165
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 5: I didn't know the album was that good because I'm

1166
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 5: hard on myself, right, so I never thought it was

1167
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 5: that good.

1168
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 7: I didn't know that album was that good until about

1169
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 7: three years later, and.

1170
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, started coming back to me.

1171
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, it started coming back to me, you.

1172
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 3: Know, and it became the international that motherfucker album.

1173
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, people start coming up to you shaking and crying,

1174
00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 5: you know, freaking you out. You say, oh, well, maybe

1175
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 5: you did something because of cool you know, maybe maybe

1176
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 5: you did something. But I never I never took it

1177
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 5: that serious to this day, I don't, you know. I

1178
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 5: just feel like we do things it pours out of us.

1179
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 5: I feel like we're just vessels. Like you know, you

1180
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 5: got to open it and then you got the spout

1181
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 5: and God pours into you and you pour out and

1182
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 5: that's just how it goes.

1183
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,360
Speaker 2: So I don't want to and I don't.

1184
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 5: Hold lot of ownership to the accolades that come with

1185
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 5: it or the criticism. I don't hold that stuff. So

1186
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 5: I can't really hold you know, like, oh I did

1187
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 5: this stand. I'm just grateful I was.

1188
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: A vessel talk about being a girl.

1189
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 6: That one was so for us, like on the on

1190
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 6: the like the heavy hip hop side. The thing that

1191
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 6: caught me about that is it was a sample of

1192
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 6: or a replay of a recogn nods that did called

1193
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 6: one on One, which was it was on the street

1194
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:19,360
Speaker 6: Fighter soundtrack, which like that crazy so random, like it

1195
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 6: wasn't like a big NAS record, but it was you know,

1196
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 6: if you knew what you knew it And so I

1197
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 6: was like, oh damn, she singing over that. Then the

1198
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,919
Speaker 6: beat drop, I was like, oh shit, she's singing singing

1199
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 6: like this shit is hard? So how did that one

1200
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 6: get chosen to be the single? And kind of what

1201
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 6: was that trajectory like to see that record kind of

1202
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 6: go up the label.

1203
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 5: Chosen as the single? I thought it was slow. First

1204
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 5: of all, I didn't want to be.

1205
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 7: So mellow y'all.

1206
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 5: Still, I got this hyper I could have been a rapper.

1207
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 5: You know, y'all have such a hyper personality. So I

1208
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 5: didn't want to be so mellow. That's where Polly came

1209
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 5: in to like smooth me out, you know what I mean.

1210
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 7: He was like, well, his number one question was always

1211
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 7: ended annoying the shit.

1212
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 5: I mean he would always be like, what a lia sing?

1213
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: This?

1214
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 5: What a lising? This a li do? And I'm like,

1215
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,800
Speaker 5: why do you keep? Because I wasn't really I wasn't like,

1216
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 5: you know, simp like soft like that essential like that.

1217
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 5: I mean maybe I was, and I just didn't see it,

1218
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. Because my friend would always

1219
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 5: tell me that's always been you. I didn't see it.

1220
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 5: So when that when we first started on that beat,

1221
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 5: it had these dirty, dirt, way dirtier drums, like kind

1222
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 5: of Brandy signing, not not so like they didn't crack

1223
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 5: like the ones that are actually on the record, and

1224
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 5: Ras did that rasp. He was like, put the Mary

1225
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 5: Jane Girls drums on it instead, you know. And that's

1226
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 5: kind of how that came about. And the street side

1227
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 5: of thing. I'm gonna tell you the truth. I didn't

1228
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,480
Speaker 5: know that that was a sample from NAS. I don't know.

1229
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 5: I just would watch Belly every day, multiple times, multiple times,

1230
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 5: didn't on my couch, smoking and joint. Why it probably

1231
00:59:52,040 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 5: stipping some hype of tubac chuck from Trader Joe's. Yes,

1232
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 5: this is a day where you just have to find

1233
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 5: a little coin to get through, you know. And so

1234
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 5: I would sit there and I would watch it, and

1235
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 5: I just got so infatuated with not I like, I

1236
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 5: made this idea about who this man was that probably

1237
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 5: really wasn't him, and then I just got into like

1238
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 5: listen to his music and all this stuff. I was

1239
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 5: so so so so into him that I just started

1240
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 5: writing this song, you know, with him in mind.

1241
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 7: Like, you know, it wasn't particularly.

1242
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 3: Oh God, but where was he going where my money?

1243
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: I put my money where my mouth is. I have

1244
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: a closet full of twenty Africas. I knew that. I

1245
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, I'm gonna make me some Africa as

1246
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: far as T shirts, I'm my only client. I got

1247
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 1: like twenty Africa's T shirts in my closet right now.

1248
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 1: That is my gym shirt, my pajama.

1249
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,600
Speaker 2: Nah. Yeah.

1250
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 6: So with TVT, I wanted to ask you particularly what

1251
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 6: was their deal as a label. I knew them particularly

1252
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:11,200
Speaker 6: from just doing all Little John stuff, you know what

1253
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

1254
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: But where your dealings with them?

1255
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:15,040
Speaker 8: Yeah?

1256
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1257
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 6: TV tunes? Yeah yeah, tv Tunes? What was your relationship

1258
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 6: with them?

1259
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 2: And how was? How did they go with them?

1260
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 5: So I went through I don't think I everatory eybody

1261
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 5: it is. So I went through a production company that

1262
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:31,280
Speaker 5: was Paul Pauley and a guy named Dubs. I don't

1263
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 5: know Dove's last slam and sorry Doves, I'm gonna tell you.

1264
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,840
Speaker 5: So I went through them, and what happened was they

1265
01:01:38,880 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 5: signed me to TVT. I really didn't want to go

1266
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 5: to TVT because you know, I've been working with I've

1267
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 5: been working with all these major labels and I really

1268
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 5: didn't want to go to TVT, but I did pray

1269
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 5: and ask Goot to send me the best place. And

1270
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 5: I definitely think that was the best place because I'm

1271
01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 5: a natural born indie artist. So we went over there

1272
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,400
Speaker 5: to them and also a lot of other places. They

1273
01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 5: liked me, but they didn't want me to write my

1274
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 5: whole album. I know, I no one knew who I was,

1275
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 5: but I knew I had to sit it was. The

1276
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 5: whole point was for me to write the album, even

1277
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 5: more than singing it. I wanted to write it, you know,

1278
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 5: And so they agreed for me to do that. And

1279
01:02:12,280 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 5: Brian shout out to Brian Leech, who is the owner

1280
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 5: of Polo Grounds with Asaph, Rocky and all of them. Now,

1281
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 5: he was at an R at the time, and he

1282
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 5: really really you know, fought for me really really hard

1283
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,840
Speaker 5: and and took care of me while I was there.

1284
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 5: But I signed to him directly. I signed him direct

1285
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 5: I went through Bridgehood Entertainment, this production company, because that's

1286
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 5: back when that's what people we do.

1287
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 7: You would go through a pressure company.

1288
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 5: And Doves tried to flip my advance in the streets.

1289
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 6: To break it to be slight, transparent, transparent to the

1290
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 6: point of, yeah, well, yeah, he.

1291
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 7: Tried to cop he didn't go.

1292
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 10: He ended up going, Yeah, he wanted to cop bricks

1293
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,479
Speaker 10: with my money, honey, and so he yes, he tried

1294
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 10: to flip my advance and ended up going to jail.

1295
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:13,439
Speaker 5: And then I'm just here and Paulie was the music guy.

1296
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 5: He was the business guy. So I'm just here and

1297
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 5: it's just me and TVT and shout out to Brian

1298
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 5: Leech because he took me and my partner, my sister

1299
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:23,919
Speaker 5: to Mia and he just took us under his wing,

1300
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 5: kind of just looked out for us because we didn't

1301
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 5: know what was going on. We didn't even know, we

1302
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 5: had no clue what was going on, and he kind

1303
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 5: of just took us in and looked out for us.

1304
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 7: And Steve Gottley was like nuts. But I dealt with.

1305
01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 5: Him really well because I didn't have expectations. See, when

1306
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 5: you come in and you've gone through the one on

1307
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 5: one of the music people you know, and Hollywood people myself,

1308
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,040
Speaker 5: you know they currency already so I knew he was.

1309
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 7: Crazy, but he did give me what I needed, you know.

1310
01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 5: I think I was the first. I think Lil John

1311
01:03:52,960 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 5: was kind of pissed because I was like the first

1312
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 5: one to get like a certain amount of money for

1313
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:59,080
Speaker 5: a video, but but I wanted Hype Williams. They were

1314
01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:00,840
Speaker 5: so happy to be a smart all abel to get

1315
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,000
Speaker 5: Ky Williams that they just gave them, you know, and

1316
01:04:03,000 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 5: it was still a discount belief right exactly. So TVT

1317
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 5: I have no qualms. People have such bad things to

1318
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 5: say about the people that put them on because it

1319
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 5: didn't go right. You wouldn't be here without those people.

1320
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 5: So I have nothing bad to say about TVT. Shout

1321
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 5: out to Steve Gottlieb, and I love Bryan Leach. He's

1322
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 5: one of my really really good friends. TVT was very

1323
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 5: very good to me, and I think it was a

1324
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 5: great place for me as well to hone my skills because,

1325
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 5: like I told you, the first song I ever wrote

1326
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 5: was on my first album, so I hadn't been doing

1327
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 5: it long, so I got time to just like go

1328
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,919
Speaker 5: into studio, and a lot of times I was using

1329
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 5: their money to write so much for other people that

1330
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 5: I'm supposed to be working on my own, So they

1331
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 5: helped me a lot. Brian Leach would just put me

1332
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 5: in the studio any city I'm in I would get like,

1333
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 5: I'm in such and such, can you put yourself? He

1334
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 5: would put me in and I would just hone my skills.

1335
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 5: And you know, the more you do anything, the better

1336
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,800
Speaker 5: you get at it. So TVT was a great college.

1337
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 6: And while you're doing all this, where are your boys?

1338
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:57,280
Speaker 6: How are you handling being a mom?

1339
01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 5: I lived in California with at that time, I lived

1340
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 5: and we live in an area called Altadena, and we

1341
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 5: literally live like two streets over from each other. We

1342
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 5: all it's like a little above Pasadena, a little neighborhood

1343
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 5: nestled into the mountains, and they would look out for me.

1344
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 5: And my mom was sick. She was probably she passed

1345
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 5: by that time. My mom had passed by the time,

1346
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:21,040
Speaker 5: so she couldn't help out. But my sisters would help.

1347
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 5: And Raz's mom she would help so much like my

1348
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:24,479
Speaker 5: first tour.

1349
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:25,760
Speaker 7: She took them stuff like that.

1350
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 5: But for the most part, I was being able to

1351
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 5: be there, definitely able to be there. I prayed and

1352
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 5: ask God that my kids would be certain kind of people,

1353
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,120
Speaker 5: and I think that that God was like, Okay, well,

1354
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 5: you're gonna have to be there.

1355
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 7: You're not gonna be able to do a lot of things.

1356
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 5: These other people are doing because you have to be

1357
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 5: present for your kids and that's kind of how.

1358
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: It hands out. Does this explain why there was such

1359
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 1: a long gap between albums?

1360
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 5: Oh, I gotta have something to say it because I

1361
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 5: would really love to be somebody that could churn it

1362
01:05:55,720 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 5: out like that, Like I just really have to have

1363
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 5: some life experience. Like after I did Complact Simplicity, I

1364
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 5: didn't know what to say. I just knew how to

1365
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 5: make music really good, you know what I'm saying.

1366
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 1: How did you feel when the album was mastered in

1367
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: sequence and done with? Like? Was it? Was it a purge?

1368
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: Feeling like Okay, I got everything out that I wanted

1369
01:06:16,560 --> 01:06:19,439
Speaker 1: to get out and what now?

1370
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 5: Or I wasn't I wasn't present, so I don't know.

1371
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,280
Speaker 5: I can't tell you like I was just rolling YEA

1372
01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 5: does understand? Okay, family fall apart, mom dies, Now you

1373
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 5: have here an album, Now you on the road, blah

1374
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 5: blah blah.

1375
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,760
Speaker 7: I have time to think about it.

1376
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: You get time to process it.

1377
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 3: And then are you making sure you're making up for

1378
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:39,280
Speaker 3: what you're doing? Because I'm thinking about now you go

1379
01:06:39,360 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 3: on the road singing the same sad songs that you

1380
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 3: that you came up with, you know that you were

1381
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 3: trying to get out of your system.

1382
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 5: That's no more.

1383
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 7: I didn't get ship one thing about a Saturdy tavist.

1384
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 5: On't we get it.

1385
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 3: Outand no, I knowd friends, I'm sorry, But once we

1386
01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 3: get out what we have to say, we.

1387
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 5: Don't care anymore. We don't care anymore, you know, like

1388
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 5: once we say what we have to say, and we

1389
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,200
Speaker 5: can say some file ship and we don't mean to

1390
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,840
Speaker 5: be so, but but once we get it out, it's done.

1391
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 5: And I was like, come on, look it maybe something

1392
01:07:13,600 --> 01:07:15,720
Speaker 5: to eat, let's have a drink's good.

1393
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, And then we just left with the

1394
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,320
Speaker 3: ship and be like, okay, well wait a minute, and

1395
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 3: then get my mind right now.

1396
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,040
Speaker 2: You just dropped the bomb and what a to do?

1397
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:23,720
Speaker 1: That information?

1398
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 5: But it's not like I'm not offering a drink with

1399
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 5: that information after information. So I'm on stage just having

1400
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 5: a good time. Now I'm out here just having a

1401
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 5: good time. You know. That's when it just turned into

1402
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 5: so much fun, traveling all around, realizing I'm not the

1403
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 5: only crazy one, because if you all here singing this

1404
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 5: stuff with me, and you can relate, y'all just as

1405
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 5: nutty as me. So I'm not the only one.

1406
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm okay. I'm trying to remember. This is a legendary location.

1407
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 1: The album cover. Did you shoot that cover? The infamous?

1408
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: Do you know these style houses? Is that okay?

1409
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 5: So I think it's a missentry modern. Is that you're

1410
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 5: talking about the style of it, the architectal style? No?

1411
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: No, no, okay, So it's it's kind of the house

1412
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 1: that you see in every holly to do with it?

1413
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's what what was the Ricky Lyon? Is that

1414
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 5: the first place that was? Yeah, that's the one I

1415
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 5: saw it.

1416
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:32,720
Speaker 1: It's literally it's called no Style s T a h L.

1417
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:33,960
Speaker 1: And it's, uh, that's.

1418
01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 5: What it's called.

1419
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, well not the it's it's it's just that's the location.

1420
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 1: They titled it the Style House, and it's been used

1421
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: in over you know, at least three hundred I mean

1422
01:08:47,360 --> 01:08:51,880
Speaker 1: probably more than five hundred Hollywood movies. But it's it's

1423
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: very recognizable. So when I saw that window thing in

1424
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 1: the back's.

1425
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:57,679
Speaker 5: The only part of the house this nice looking?

1426
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,920
Speaker 1: I was I was going to ask you, okay because

1427
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: similar to similar to the diner that Quentin Tarantino used

1428
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 1: in pulp Fiction, which is another kind of Hollywood staple

1429
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 1: like this. This diner is never used to serve food.

1430
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 1: It's only used for movie houses to look like it's

1431
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:21,120
Speaker 1: a diner. But I went in there once and it

1432
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:24,920
Speaker 1: looked horrible. I always wanted to know, like if that

1433
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 1: house was vintage or was it classic, or when.

1434
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 5: I was there, there was still a lady living there.

1435
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if it was this old couple,

1436
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 5: but the old lady was still in there, and I

1437
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 5: ended up seeing I saw her in her bed and

1438
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 5: like she was kind of sick or whatever. But they

1439
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:41,640
Speaker 5: had like carpeted and it was kind of mill like.

1440
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:44,360
Speaker 5: Only one that part, that part of the house, for

1441
01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 5: the window winds in that area.

1442
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 7: That's the only part of the house that was nice.

1443
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,120
Speaker 5: I'm sure now they probably invested more money in it

1444
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 5: to make it better with maybe not really or maybe

1445
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 5: not because it was it was doing what it was doing.

1446
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: Either way, you know, it's supposed to look like it's

1447
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,639
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty or sixty five.

1448
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,639
Speaker 5: So that's not the part I'm talking about. I'm talking

1449
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 5: about the other part of the house where it's okay

1450
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 5: for it to look nineteen sixties. But there were technical

1451
01:10:06,840 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 5: issues like mildew carpet, you know what I mean, Like

1452
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 5: these things can be changed out. You could put more

1453
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:12,719
Speaker 5: carpet and still be nineteen sixties.

1454
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: So how did your what was the most apparent change

1455
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: in your life now that you made the transition from

1456
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, not being a singer to being well known

1457
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: in singing, Like what was the where were the pros

1458
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:38,639
Speaker 1: and cons of your newfound transition?

1459
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:42,280
Speaker 5: The pros as a writer, I started making a lot

1460
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 5: of money. That was really cool. I was literally without

1461
01:10:46,920 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 5: a place to live. I'll stay homeless, but I was

1462
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 5: without a place to live because I could live in family, right,

1463
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,000
Speaker 5: but I didn't have anywhere to live. I had to

1464
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,800
Speaker 5: I got invicted. Well I don't get evicted, but I

1465
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,560
Speaker 5: had to leave before I got evicted, And being a

1466
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,799
Speaker 5: kids would just kind of like.

1467
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 7: Stand where we could.

1468
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 5: And then like a three hundred thousand dollars check came,

1469
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 5: and it just then it just started coming every few

1470
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:10,680
Speaker 5: months more and more and more.

1471
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:13,479
Speaker 2: That it was that that was all songwriting royalties from

1472
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 2: song because.

1473
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 7: You have understandabody.

1474
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 5: It was like checking for complex supposed to be like

1475
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 5: that that was just you know, artist, I mean, that

1476
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,000
Speaker 5: was probably like a little sprinkling there somewhere, but it

1477
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:26,400
Speaker 5: wasn't like the bulk of it. And that was really

1478
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,799
Speaker 5: really cool. That was cool to like go from having

1479
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 5: nothing and to see that like your intellect, your intellectual

1480
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 5: property could garnishes. And people started to come at me,

1481
01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 5: you know, to kind of sign publishing, and it felt

1482
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 5: very cool, cool to say no, I'm okay, so.

1483
01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 1: Right now, song placement money is good money if you

1484
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:48,840
Speaker 1: can place it on the right artist.

1485
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,160
Speaker 5: Yes, And I also think you got to own your

1486
01:11:52,200 --> 01:11:55,120
Speaker 5: publishing because if somebody, if somebody gave you a check

1487
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,400
Speaker 5: and now they taken you know, see thou used to

1488
01:11:57,400 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 5: tell me you used always try to get on pulish

1489
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:00,759
Speaker 5: and he was saying, didn't you. You must not believe

1490
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 5: in yourself.

1491
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 7: You don't believe in it.

1492
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 5: Steve got be the owner of the owner of TV.

1493
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 5: He would say, he would say, you don't believe in yourself,

1494
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,360
Speaker 5: You don't believe yourself. Why wouldn't you sell your publish

1495
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 5: and you must not believe in yourself? And I would

1496
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,559
Speaker 5: live laugh like that. I would I.

1497
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 2: Believe in myself. That's why I'm not selling the shit right.

1498
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,960
Speaker 5: But that was my that was my biggest change and then,

1499
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 5: because you have to understand, I didn't meet people. I

1500
01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 5: wouldn't walk down the street and people noticed. It wasn't

1501
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 5: like anything like that. And not until I got to

1502
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 5: me like Europe or something, that's where people would notice me.

1503
01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 5: But I got to make money, which really kind of

1504
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 5: Raphael Sadik is one of the artists that I watched

1505
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 5: and looked at and what he did, and it was

1506
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 5: kind of like, I love how his theme goes, Okay,

1507
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 5: he doesn't Raphael can walk or he can walk around

1508
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 5: be himself himself, you know every now and it's maybe Rafael,

1509
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 5: but he doesn't get not an essene of course, but

1510
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 5: I mean like he he he gets people that comes

1511
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 5: up to but it's not like in a bothersome way.

1512
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,360
Speaker 5: He gets to do what he loves, live his life,

1513
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,280
Speaker 5: make his money, be a normal person, you know what

1514
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 5: I mean. And I saw that from the gate and

1515
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:03,680
Speaker 5: I thought that was super super cool. So I was

1516
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 5: kind of like, not never. I hate to say it,

1517
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 5: but I've never really wanted any type of fame. I

1518
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 5: just wanted to be heard because I'm not the type

1519
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 5: of person that you can just run up on my

1520
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,000
Speaker 5: face with cameras and say something crazy to me or

1521
01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 5: and then I have to now conduct myself like a celebrity.

1522
01:13:19,479 --> 01:13:21,880
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna conduct myself like a celebrity. I'm gonna

1523
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:24,880
Speaker 5: conduct myself like a real person with real feelings, and

1524
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 5: I'm gonna treat you according to how you treat me,

1525
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 5: no matter who you are, you know what I mean.

1526
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 5: So that was something I was really grateful for. I

1527
01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 5: didn't really I didn't want that. Nothing I even see

1528
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:34,519
Speaker 5: that happen people.

1529
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, that's why it's important to share,

1530
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 3: like your story, That's why I mean, it's remarkable in

1531
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 3: that way because you are that person and the same thing.

1532
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:42,680
Speaker 3: I know Fante talks about that all the time, but

1533
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 3: a lot of people don't know that, Like, you can

1534
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 3: be a whole, working, successful musician and you don't have

1535
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 3: to be on every commercial, every TV thing and be happy.

1536
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:52,000
Speaker 7: Unless that's what you.

1537
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 3: Want.

1538
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:54,760
Speaker 1: That's what you.

1539
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 7: Want, And I think it's beautiful when people want that

1540
01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 7: and they get that. But so when people ask me,

1541
01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 7: you know what anybody should to get to know what.

1542
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 6: You want anything more so than that, know who you are, like,

1543
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:08,400
Speaker 6: because I think there's some people that are like they

1544
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 6: just have that thing of like like a Will Smith right,

1545
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,639
Speaker 6: just as it was not a singer, but just Will

1546
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 6: is Will. Like he one minute he jumping out a plane,

1547
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 6: and then he doing a movie, and then he's discovering Earth,

1548
01:14:19,160 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 6: and then this nigga losing weight like you know what

1549
01:14:21,120 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 6: I mean, Like he just always is doing something, and

1550
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:25,720
Speaker 6: and there are just sill some people that are just

1551
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:28,240
Speaker 6: those big personalities, and then there's just some people that's

1552
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:29,920
Speaker 6: just like, look, I just want to make what I make,

1553
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 6: put it out, and then y'all leave me the fuck alone.

1554
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:36,559
Speaker 5: Now you have a second job, and they don't ever

1555
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 5: say I'm not so successful. I get up every day

1556
01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 5: and do what I want to do.

1557
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying that when I'm talking, I.

1558
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 5: Might not be in a cover or magazine. I might

1559
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 5: not be the song you hear every time you came

1560
01:14:45,800 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 5: on the radio. But if I wanted.

1561
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,800
Speaker 7: That, please believe me, I would have it. I never

1562
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 7: had intention of that.

1563
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 5: All I wanted to do was not work some type

1564
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 5: of job I hate it, and be able to take

1565
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:56,640
Speaker 5: care of my kids. That was it.

1566
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why this is a surprise.

1567
01:14:58,320 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

1568
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's why I was not surpris to

1569
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:01,639
Speaker 3: hear her response in that way, because if you're a real

1570
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 3: fan of Teaser Moses and you kind.

1571
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 2: Of kind of had a feeling, that makes sense. Yes, yes, yeah,

1572
01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 2: how did so?

1573
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 6: Speaking of that, how did your situation with MMG, how

1574
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 6: did that come about?

1575
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 2: And what was kind of the like, how did that go?

1576
01:15:16,240 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 1: Well?

1577
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:17,439
Speaker 7: I lived in Miami.

1578
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 5: I moved to Miami, I think two thousand and nine,

1579
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 5: all the two thousand and nine I moved to so

1580
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 5: by twenty ten, I think Ross had caught lind to me.

1581
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 5: I think he found out about me in Atlanta because

1582
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:29,400
Speaker 5: Atlanta is a really huge market for me, and so

1583
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 5: he found out for me in Atlanta. He said some.

1584
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:34,080
Speaker 7: Rashet girls telling him about me.

1585
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 5: Or something like that, and then he reached out to

1586
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 5: me on DM because we only lived about ten minutes

1587
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 5: twenty minutes away from each other like that, Yes, come

1588
01:15:41,680 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 5: over and then we all hung out and it was cool,

1589
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 5: you know, and that's he had it had just gotten meat.

1590
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,559
Speaker 5: Well he hadn't signed any about it yet. It got meat,

1591
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 5: and he got wild and he kind of was like

1592
01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:56,080
Speaker 5: kind of building his thing and I would just go

1593
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:58,680
Speaker 5: in and sing on stuff and it was cool. But

1594
01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 5: it just never panded to anything.

1595
01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 2: Okay, gotcha.

1596
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,519
Speaker 6: So the record when you put out Kanyak and Conversation,

1597
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 6: was that stuff you recorded wow, like during the energy

1598
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 6: time or was that just a completely different thing.

1599
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 7: It was during the MMG time.

1600
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,080
Speaker 5: But I was never signed to them and anything that

1601
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:16,599
Speaker 5: I was doing for like.

1602
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 7: I pray for all that, like, you know, I was

1603
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 7: taking care of that.

1604
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 5: Like it was just something I was doing while I

1605
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 5: was discussing with them, you know, if we were going

1606
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 5: to do something or not. You know. But I'm like

1607
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 5: a one, I'm a I'm a woman, you know, like

1608
01:16:32,439 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 5: I'm a grown woman. So it's like kind of different

1609
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:35,360
Speaker 5: to have this, you know.

1610
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 7: I don't really just slip.

1611
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 5: In line with everything. I'm teacher though, not girl woman

1612
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 5: with two kids.

1613
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 4: You know.

1614
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

1615
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 5: But it panned out, and I was really grateful because

1616
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 5: I would give him. I think probably up until like

1617
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:56,800
Speaker 5: maybe two hours ago, I was seeing all over his stuff.

1618
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 5: I'm very loyal to anybody that extends a hand to me.

1619
01:17:00,720 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 5: I'm very very loyal. If you need anything from me,

1620
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 5: you know, I'm just I'm if you have ever done

1621
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 5: anything to be helpful to me, I'm always seen and

1622
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 5: so I would sing on this stuff or whatever. So

1623
01:17:10,200 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 5: people thought I was still connected because I was seeing

1624
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:13,800
Speaker 5: it was.

1625
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 1: The process different than this record, and that you worked

1626
01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: with one producer yeah for the last and multiple producers

1627
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:26,280
Speaker 1: for this record.

1628
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 5: Yes, very much so, because I did tons of mixtapes

1629
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 5: before that album came out, right, and so I was

1630
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 5: kind of like it was just really liked.

1631
01:17:37,200 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 2: That was the one for me, Like that was it?

1632
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:39,880
Speaker 5: Oh, thank you?

1633
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1634
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 5: But I would do these mixtape and I think because

1635
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 5: like I said, the first album, I did you have

1636
01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,479
Speaker 5: things saying I had not only did I have Paul Pauli,

1637
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 5: I had Neo, and I had Paul Pauli and Neo

1638
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 5: and they were helping me through this process of creating

1639
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 5: an album. Then I didn't have that anymore. And then

1640
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 5: so now I'm just making these mixtapes and I'm kind

1641
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 5: of learning how to make an album brough exercising, making mixtapes,

1642
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,599
Speaker 5: making all these mistakes. So by the time I get

1643
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:06,240
Speaker 5: to konnak and conversation, that's just the mood I'm in.

1644
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 5: But I kind of just gathered. I make music constantly,

1645
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,799
Speaker 5: always making music. I'll started just be like a first

1646
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 5: and a hook vattle later for two years, you know,

1647
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 5: and then I'll come back to it and the first

1648
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 5: and the hook that comes to that, and then I

1649
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 5: listened to the music and now now I'm doing more

1650
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,200
Speaker 5: to the music and things like that. And that's kind

1651
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:25,920
Speaker 5: of how the process was for Konnak and conversation. I

1652
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 5: didn't have this pain to pour out.

1653
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:32,879
Speaker 7: It was more so just like music coming.

1654
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:36,240
Speaker 5: Out than these feelings. Do you see what I'm saying?

1655
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 6: So it was that hard for you because that was

1656
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 6: that was Yeah, that was something that was tough, like

1657
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:43,799
Speaker 6: learning how to when you're used to, I guess creating

1658
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:45,960
Speaker 6: from a place of pain or trauma or like a

1659
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:46,599
Speaker 6: bad relationship.

1660
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 7: I got the whole Mary Blake, J Blos.

1661
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,920
Speaker 5: The more saying I'm in the better than music. It

1662
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 5: really is really whack, you know, to the point where

1663
01:18:54,600 --> 01:19:02,000
Speaker 5: I'll thrust myself into some bullshit just to learn.

1664
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: You're not the first person I know that keeps their

1665
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:08,760
Speaker 1: ex on standby. Well no, no, no, I'm not saying you

1666
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:12,599
Speaker 1: said that, But I know people that actually, I gotta

1667
01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: get with my ex real quick. No, I know people

1668
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: that actually right get their ex on standby so they

1669
01:19:20,439 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: can finish this last verse or something I need.

1670
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:23,799
Speaker 2: I need some toxic tails.

1671
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 5: You know. Really what it is is like you need

1672
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:28,759
Speaker 5: to feel because I'm a genuine person, so I can't.

1673
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 5: I can't just you know, act like I feel something.

1674
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,080
Speaker 5: I always everything I said, everything I say and do

1675
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,479
Speaker 5: is coming from my heart, you know what I mean?

1676
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 5: So like I just at that time, Kanyak and conversation

1677
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:39,839
Speaker 5: was more about.

1678
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,200
Speaker 7: Okay, you're at a place where you you know, you're.

1679
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:44,840
Speaker 5: You're not in pain anymore, you're killing whatever, and you're

1680
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:46,400
Speaker 5: ready to go out here and do your thing. You're

1681
01:19:46,400 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 5: a grown woman, sexy, you five, you know, go out

1682
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,800
Speaker 5: here and do your thing. But it was different in

1683
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 5: rightly because that ain't really.

1684
01:19:58,680 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: On that record.

1685
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,680
Speaker 6: You work with two very good two good friends of

1686
01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 6: mine from the Bay, my man Tracademics. You did so

1687
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:09,000
Speaker 6: special record with my man Brandon, one one of a Kind,

1688
01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 6: One Oak. How did y'all, Lincoln, I was very surprised

1689
01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 6: to see you and happily surprised to see you work

1690
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:13,880
Speaker 6: with them.

1691
01:20:13,880 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 2: How did you come across the work?

1692
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I never knew that's what one of

1693
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: these stood for.

1694
01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:22,400
Speaker 2: One of a kind.

1695
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:28,800
Speaker 3: I didn't the New York Club, But.

1696
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I definitely had to ask him that question

1697
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:35,720
Speaker 5: and he told me what was going on.

1698
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:38,519
Speaker 7: I definitely had to ask him what because I like

1699
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 7: Brandon could have just been right.

1700
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:42,559
Speaker 2: That's what I always called him, Brandon. That's a shout

1701
01:20:42,680 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 2: shout to them.

1702
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 5: The Bay is another place that you know, a lot

1703
01:20:47,160 --> 01:20:49,320
Speaker 5: of support in the they and you know, I have

1704
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 5: cities in America and outside of America that are cities

1705
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 5: that I can always get my money from, and so

1706
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,920
Speaker 5: the Baby was one of those cities. And Tracademics hit

1707
01:20:57,920 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 5: me long time ago. Was usually such a fan of

1708
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 5: this is all social social media. How I met them,

1709
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 5: you know, because he hit me and he was a

1710
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:06,840
Speaker 5: fan of complex simplicity. And I'm the type of person

1711
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 5: that I don't just like eh, I don't do that.

1712
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 5: I really always go look and see who this is.

1713
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 5: I don't care if it's somebody that's huge or you

1714
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 5: know whatever, I'll go check it out and see. And

1715
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,519
Speaker 5: I just loved his sound to this day, like we

1716
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 5: work constant Man, always work together because he has such

1717
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,200
Speaker 5: a great song. And to me, I'm okay with evolving

1718
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:25,400
Speaker 5: into anything that I'm supposed to evolve into. But there's

1719
01:21:25,439 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 5: a base to what my sound is, and I don't.

1720
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:31,960
Speaker 5: I don't like to really kind of like dismiss that base,

1721
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:33,880
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying, Like it could be something

1722
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 5: different and fresh and new, but it has to have

1723
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:38,760
Speaker 5: that face, and he completely has that face. We call

1724
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:43,640
Speaker 5: it Champagne soul. It's like it's really really sophisticated.

1725
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: You know, twirl.

1726
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 7: The girls don't twork, they twirl, you know. And so

1727
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:48,000
Speaker 7: it was just very easy.

1728
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,360
Speaker 5: It was very easy for us to connect, and Brandon

1729
01:21:51,439 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 5: kind of came along with that.

1730
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I like that.

1731
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 6: The record that on the Luxurious Underground Joint That's so

1732
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,080
Speaker 6: specially and Missing You, those are my two ones from that.

1733
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 7: I love songs for real, thank you very much.

1734
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 5: Missing You was like a village from the album that

1735
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 5: was supposed to be The Young Lions. It was just

1736
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 5: fillage from this album that I was dismantled.

1737
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:15,760
Speaker 2: So, okay, yeah, the Young what happened? What happened with

1738
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 2: that record?

1739
01:22:16,840 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 5: Well, Paulie wasn't there anymore. I think Brian was this

1740
01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 5: that I'll be working with one producer like we did before.

1741
01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,080
Speaker 5: But like I said, you know, I hate to be vulgar.

1742
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,679
Speaker 5: People think it's vulgar. But I always say making music

1743
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,320
Speaker 5: is for me. I can't speak for other people. It's

1744
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 5: like having sex. And I'm not a very for mystery

1745
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,439
Speaker 5: as a woman because I can't connect with everybody like that.

1746
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 5: And I don't do things just to do them, you

1747
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 5: know what I mean. So me and.

1748
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:39,160
Speaker 7: Paulie we had this zeps, you know what I'm saying.

1749
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:41,240
Speaker 5: We had the chemistry, you know, and I just didn't

1750
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,719
Speaker 5: find somebody else to do that with. So I would

1751
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 5: go out and work with all these different people, but

1752
01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 5: I don't think that they were trying to recreate that

1753
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:53,320
Speaker 5: that thing. And so before we could figure that out,

1754
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 5: I was ready to go, you know, and then TDT

1755
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:59,200
Speaker 5: kind of just went and fell apart. It went bang up.

1756
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: Interview. You're in your material.

1757
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:04,880
Speaker 6: I think the person that I hear that you have

1758
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:07,600
Speaker 6: a really good chemistry with. And I don't know personally,

1759
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:09,800
Speaker 6: you know, if it compares to a probably or not.

1760
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 6: But you and Bank, like yo, we y'all do not

1761
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,320
Speaker 6: fucking miss like I love the records y'all do together?

1762
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 2: What was it like?

1763
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 5: Really we really friends, you know, like Bink and I

1764
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:26,600
Speaker 5: really friends like Bank will call me invent and I

1765
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 5: don't listen.

1766
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 2: Yes much.

1767
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 7: Yeah. So I think that's the thing. I think that.

1768
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 5: I've been in the studio with the most the most

1769
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 5: world now and amazing producers, and like I said, it's

1770
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 5: like sex. It don't mean it's gonna work, you know

1771
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 5: what I'm saying. And I think me and Benk just

1772
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 5: have a good chemistry. I think because I really genuinely

1773
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 5: like him and he genuinely liked me, and we care

1774
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,080
Speaker 5: about each other. So it comes out that like that.

1775
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 5: And I wish I could just have sex with anybody

1776
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 5: but I. And that's kind of how it is with music.

1777
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:04,200
Speaker 5: I can't. I can't. I can come in here and

1778
01:24:04,240 --> 01:24:06,320
Speaker 5: I can have every good intentions to make this great,

1779
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 5: you know, but if it doesn't click, I don't know

1780
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 5: how to go in the mold of like this isn't clicking,

1781
01:24:11,080 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 5: make it click. I don't know how to do that

1782
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 5: because I feel like I'm in my sweet spot when

1783
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 5: it when it's like rolling, When I force it, it

1784
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:22,000
Speaker 5: gets really whack and I don't.

1785
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 7: Like that part of what I do. It makes me

1786
01:24:23,479 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 7: start to feel like I'm like, so, I.

1787
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 2: Just like I don't make you questions. So were you

1788
01:24:27,680 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 2: and Anthony together?

1789
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:32,120
Speaker 6: You and Anthony when y'all did that one record, we

1790
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 6: all together in the studio when y'all did that record,

1791
01:24:35,160 --> 01:24:35,759
Speaker 6: we were.

1792
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:38,840
Speaker 7: No, no, we weren't. I did that by myself and then.

1793
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 2: I sent it to Oh okay, okay, yeah, that was

1794
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:42,559
Speaker 2: another one of my face.

1795
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 5: And that was a track I don't want to say

1796
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 5: because you probably know who because if you probably know them,

1797
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:52,920
Speaker 5: you're from Philly, no Carolina, you know. Okay, well some

1798
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 5: friends of mine from Philly, I know, so I'm not

1799
01:24:56,320 --> 01:24:59,679
Speaker 5: gonna say some friends of vibes from Philly. I only

1800
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:01,720
Speaker 5: had to much money to make the album, and they

1801
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,160
Speaker 5: wanted more money for the album.

1802
01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,000
Speaker 7: So I just took my vocals and gave them to

1803
01:25:05,040 --> 01:25:06,839
Speaker 7: be being murdered.

1804
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 5: It it turned out way, but I thought it was

1805
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 5: going to be with the first check, you know. And

1806
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,400
Speaker 5: that's kind of how that happened with the Anthony Hamilton record.

1807
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 5: And then we sent it to Anthony and he got

1808
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 5: on them.

1809
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:19,400
Speaker 2: Okay, now that one that's you was Thope. I love

1810
01:25:19,479 --> 01:25:21,599
Speaker 2: that record, Thank you so much? For real?

1811
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:26,799
Speaker 6: Was your label situation with Shanicky when you in twenty fifteen?

1812
01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: How would they work with them compared to TVT? How

1813
01:25:30,080 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 2: is that for you.

1814
01:25:31,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 5: I learned to appreciate tv T a lot more, okay,

1815
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 5: And I learned.

1816
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,160
Speaker 7: That you don't want to.

1817
01:25:42,720 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: I learned.

1818
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 7: I learned that you don't need a middleman.

1819
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 5: That's what I learned. I learned you don't need a

1820
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:47,599
Speaker 5: middle man.

1821
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 1: Fact your current situation, are you your own manager right now?

1822
01:25:53,680 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 5: Or we have it's just we have a team. Me

1823
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 5: and my sister are partners and that's kind of how

1824
01:25:58,720 --> 01:26:01,360
Speaker 5: we roll. I guess I would be partly my own

1825
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 5: manager because we just kind of work together on it.

1826
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:07,840
Speaker 5: But I've never had like big management or anything like that.

1827
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: But is that like being the wedding planner and the

1828
01:26:10,479 --> 01:26:11,439
Speaker 1: bride at the same time.

1829
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:12,640
Speaker 7: I don't know.

1830
01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:16,120
Speaker 5: No, I don't be the bride and the wedding planet.

1831
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,400
Speaker 5: I really just be the bride and my sister. Yeah,

1832
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 5: she she should be sitting here to tell you how

1833
01:26:22,800 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 5: crazy I am. And you know, she takes on a

1834
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:27,559
Speaker 5: lot of hats and you know, stuff like that. It's

1835
01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,720
Speaker 5: definitely I would love it for it to be, you

1836
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:33,800
Speaker 5: know where I'm completely detached from it, but it's just

1837
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 5: not possible.

1838
01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:38,919
Speaker 3: What do your boys think about now that their they're artists? Contrast,

1839
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,720
Speaker 3: they think about the way that you have lived your

1840
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:46,160
Speaker 3: career and the things that they're gonna they're taking away

1841
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 3: from it as far as you know, to being as

1842
01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 3: great indie artists.

1843
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: That you are.

1844
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 7: Well, they saw the up right now, right right.

1845
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 5: So it makes me feel happy that I didn't do

1846
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,360
Speaker 5: so bad in the down times to make them be

1847
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:58,840
Speaker 5: like I don't want to do this, you know, So

1848
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,400
Speaker 5: that makes me happy. And they just always have always

1849
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 5: championed me, like I get nervous to let them hear anything.

1850
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 5: Always have since they were you know, like I just

1851
01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:11,479
Speaker 5: really respect their opinions so much, and I think more

1852
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:13,559
Speaker 5: than anything is kind of they were kind of like me.

1853
01:27:13,760 --> 01:27:15,760
Speaker 5: They had it in them, burning in them. They didn't

1854
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 5: even tell me forever. I didn't learn one of their

1855
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:19,800
Speaker 5: friends told me that they rap or whatever. You know,

1856
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,639
Speaker 5: I didn't even know. I think that they just.

1857
01:27:21,880 --> 01:27:25,840
Speaker 1: All of this family doesn't share their intimates.

1858
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,719
Speaker 5: They told me because they told me, well, we thought

1859
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,479
Speaker 5: we thought that you wouldn't want us to rap, because

1860
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 5: you know Dad raps, and.

1861
01:27:33,920 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 2: You know, you know how you feel that right.

1862
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,680
Speaker 3: You and him are like friendly now, like it's like

1863
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:42,639
Speaker 3: thirty years twenty years later, twenty years.

1864
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 5: Later, I had listen. I love him with all my heart.

1865
01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 5: He's my first love ever, you know, first everything. You

1866
01:27:49,160 --> 01:27:50,640
Speaker 5: know what I mean, And so I love him all

1867
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:52,760
Speaker 5: my heart. And but we don't have any beef nothing.

1868
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 5: We super cool. We always like we could be We

1869
01:27:55,960 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 5: could always be friends, because that's always we were. My

1870
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 5: only Quama who ever has been not being a father

1871
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:01,600
Speaker 5: to his children. That was all it.

1872
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 7: That was it, you know.

1873
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:04,280
Speaker 5: So now he don't like when I say stuff like this,

1874
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:06,599
Speaker 5: but like I can't rewrite what happened, you know, So

1875
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 5: it's cool, Like we can sit down and talk. We

1876
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 5: can be cool each other. He basically laugh.

1877
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 7: I'm making cool.

1878
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 5: But that's my only problem. So now that that's done,

1879
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 5: let's have a shot. You know what I'm saying. It's

1880
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 5: all good.

1881
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 7: But it's the one time that you did say something

1882
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:27,360
Speaker 7: to me.

1883
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:39,760
Speaker 5: You were like, it's.

1884
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 7: Okay, it's okay, it's okay, no friends, it's no bad.

1885
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:39,040
Speaker 7: And you said nothing bad.

1886
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:39,800
Speaker 5: You said nothing bad.

1887
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 7: You just asked me a question, and I was like,

1888
01:28:41,880 --> 01:28:42,160
Speaker 7: that was it.

1889
01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 5: I never heard from you again.

1890
01:28:53,600 --> 01:29:04,559
Speaker 6: Pretty well, so with them, So with your son's coach contra,

1891
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:08,360
Speaker 6: do you, I guess, do you play any role in

1892
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 6: their career, Like, how how do you manage that? You know,

1893
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:15,320
Speaker 6: with them, you know, doing their thing and you're doing

1894
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 6: your thing? How does that work?

1895
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 7: Those are my children. I am their mother.

1896
01:29:19,720 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 5: All I can do is off as artists to artists

1897
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,439
Speaker 5: off of them, because first of all, let's start here.

1898
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna sit up here pretend like I know

1899
01:29:26,320 --> 01:29:27,880
Speaker 5: a lot about this business because I've been in the

1900
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 5: industry at Teacher Moses. I haven't really been in the

1901
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:32,240
Speaker 5: music as the record business, right, Yeah, I'm in an

1902
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 5: industry at Teacher Moses. I make how many off of

1903
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 5: I very rarely opened for people. I was always doing

1904
01:29:37,120 --> 01:29:38,880
Speaker 5: my own shows, my own you know what I mean.

1905
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 5: So I don't really know much about that. So I'm

1906
01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 5: not going to sit down and ask like I know

1907
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,920
Speaker 5: of this stuff, you know. But what I do tell

1908
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 5: them is about navigation of human beings in this space,

1909
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:51,200
Speaker 5: you know. And I tell them about being good. I

1910
01:29:51,240 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 5: think one of the reasons they didn't want to tell

1911
01:29:52,600 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 5: me for a long time because they knew if they

1912
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 5: were whack, I was going to tell them.

1913
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,080
Speaker 1: I was going to say, this is not good.

1914
01:29:58,760 --> 01:29:59,600
Speaker 2: It's not like I.

1915
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:04,640
Speaker 6: Yeah you listen, yeah, like listen, bro, you want to

1916
01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 6: hear it from me, because if you hear it.

1917
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: From me, you know it's coming from a place of love.

1918
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: You hear from the internet.

1919
01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:11,120
Speaker 2: Them niggas don't give a fuck about nothing.

1920
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,479
Speaker 5: They used to say all the time that they want

1921
01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 5: to be basketball players. Have you ever seen their dad?

1922
01:30:15,880 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: Have you seen.

1923
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:20,479
Speaker 5: I told them all the time when they were a

1924
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 5: little girl child told us to.

1925
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:29,120
Speaker 6: Do five to you standing outside the trail in Queensbridge, son.

1926
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:29,839
Speaker 1: Listen.

1927
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 7: Everyone says that I think the.

1928
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:35,800
Speaker 5: Complex that you talk.

1929
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 7: I talked leg, I talk.

1930
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,400
Speaker 5: Like a giant. But I think the complex simplicity because

1931
01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:42,200
Speaker 5: I get this all the time.

1932
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 7: I think the complet.

1933
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 5: Simplicity album where my leg is kind of out of something.

1934
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 5: I think people think that that's a long leg. Now

1935
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:48,400
Speaker 5: I haven't.

1936
01:30:48,680 --> 01:31:02,880
Speaker 3: I have a long leg, but that's.

1937
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 5: Definitely not say this Fante is so much more pleasurable

1938
01:31:05,280 --> 01:31:08,000
Speaker 5: to see them doing what they're doing than it was

1939
01:31:08,040 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 5: for me because I did it out of desperateness to

1940
01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:13,200
Speaker 5: take care of my hids and to like get to

1941
01:31:13,240 --> 01:31:15,000
Speaker 5: not be you know what I mean. Like they're doing

1942
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,080
Speaker 5: it because they just love it and they enjoy it

1943
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 5: and they're happy about every single thing. I went to

1944
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,599
Speaker 5: see them. Was that last week the week before last

1945
01:31:21,800 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 5: they opened it for Corday and they were on age

1946
01:31:24,080 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 5: and these people don't know who they are and they

1947
01:31:26,439 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 5: chant everything has staying it. It's like my heart just

1948
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 5: wanting to bust wide open because it's just very good

1949
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 5: to see your children pursuing their purpose and getting reaction

1950
01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 5: from it. You know, it makes you feel really really good.

1951
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 5: And I also know how long they've humbled themselves and

1952
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 5: just worked hard and kept their head down and they

1953
01:31:43,240 --> 01:31:45,240
Speaker 5: you know, and now they's getting reaction to it.

1954
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:46,800
Speaker 2: So it makes me feel really Nah, they've been on

1955
01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 2: it for a minute.

1956
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 6: I mean I see them like they going up now,

1957
01:31:49,280 --> 01:31:50,720
Speaker 6: like I've seen like a lot of stuff like the

1958
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:53,599
Speaker 6: LA Leakers and all that. But I'll be telling them like, yo, nah,

1959
01:31:53,600 --> 01:31:55,960
Speaker 6: them boys been on it for a minute, like they've

1960
01:31:55,960 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 6: been at it.

1961
01:31:56,439 --> 01:31:58,559
Speaker 2: So I'm super super happy for them, brothers.

1962
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:03,040
Speaker 1: That's dope. Epigenetics is a beautiful thing, man.

1963
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,439
Speaker 5: And hip hop.

1964
01:32:11,160 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: The jeans down to that's that's awesome.

1965
01:32:13,880 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 6: I wanted to ask Teajer one thing I wanted you

1966
01:32:15,800 --> 01:32:18,639
Speaker 6: to break down I think would be really helpful for

1967
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:21,679
Speaker 6: all our listeners and some who are you know, aspiring

1968
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:26,000
Speaker 6: artists and independent artists. For you as an independent uh

1969
01:32:26,080 --> 01:32:28,960
Speaker 6: as R and B because that's R and B is

1970
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:32,400
Speaker 6: super I tell everybody it is so much harder doing

1971
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 6: indie R and B than doing indie hip hop. Like

1972
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 6: it's being too completely the words costs a whole lot

1973
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:41,000
Speaker 6: more way more specially so for you, what moves the

1974
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:41,680
Speaker 6: needle for you?

1975
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,680
Speaker 2: Do you find? Is it shows? Is it videos? Is

1976
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:46,640
Speaker 2: it you know?

1977
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,400
Speaker 6: Is it content? You know, just releasing ship on ija whatever?

1978
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:52,800
Speaker 6: What are the things that work for you as an

1979
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:58,800
Speaker 6: indie artist that you actually see dividends from.

1980
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 5: Well, I definitely, you know, well, I see differicends from

1981
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:03,680
Speaker 5: the shows, A definitely. That was That's what kept me

1982
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 5: for the most part. But I think it's just the

1983
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:11,800
Speaker 5: only the publishing has always you know, those checks come through,

1984
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,360
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, And so yeah it comes

1985
01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:16,800
Speaker 5: through and and.

1986
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 7: You know, merged us decent.

1987
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,559
Speaker 5: But it's not because I'm not trying to push that

1988
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 5: as much as you know, because I love music, so.

1989
01:33:24,040 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to start a clothing line.

1990
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,360
Speaker 5: I have to think and then like and have people

1991
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 5: help me with that. But I think, more than anything,

1992
01:33:31,200 --> 01:33:35,920
Speaker 5: what is the most productive, not just money wise right.

1993
01:33:36,000 --> 01:33:39,200
Speaker 5: The shows and touching people have made me have like

1994
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:41,760
Speaker 5: this kind of more cult kind of following, you know

1995
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:44,120
Speaker 5: what I mean. I've been seeing the same people and

1996
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,920
Speaker 5: these these I have like a lockdown like ten to

1997
01:33:46,960 --> 01:33:49,200
Speaker 5: eleven cities that I'm gonna always get my money in.

1998
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:51,800
Speaker 5: And I see these people all the time. I know

1999
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 5: their children, you know what I mean. I know all

2000
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,639
Speaker 5: these people, and I think that I think the Internet

2001
01:33:57,760 --> 01:33:59,360
Speaker 5: is great, and I think it can get you to

2002
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,839
Speaker 5: a lot of people. I think ultimately, a real connection

2003
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:04,439
Speaker 5: is when you're on stage, you know, and when you

2004
01:34:04,479 --> 01:34:06,880
Speaker 5: get off stage and you talk to people and you

2005
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,000
Speaker 5: do like I'm a I was always big on before

2006
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 5: people would doing this.

2007
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:10,800
Speaker 7: Like these pop up shows.

2008
01:34:10,840 --> 01:34:12,920
Speaker 5: Okay, because I travel a lot, just because I like

2009
01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:14,439
Speaker 5: to travel, you know, and so.

2010
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 7: I would just pop up in cities and just in

2011
01:34:18,320 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 7: a small bar and.

2012
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 5: You get a guitar player. I love that kind of stuff.

2013
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:24,160
Speaker 7: Like I love that kind of stuff.

2014
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:27,120
Speaker 5: I love real connection with people. I think that's what

2015
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 5: it is with me. I like your experience with me

2016
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,800
Speaker 5: to be very intimate, so it feels like I'm your friend.

2017
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 5: I don't want you to fan out over me, because

2018
01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:35,479
Speaker 5: that's weird to be. I just want you to be

2019
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 5: my friend, you know.

2020
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's about how do you use in terms of

2021
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 6: using social media? Because I talk with a lot of

2022
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:48,360
Speaker 6: artists now, which we're different because we kind of came

2023
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:50,679
Speaker 6: up in an age before it, so we know kind

2024
01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:54,160
Speaker 6: of what it was before. But artists now, like social

2025
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,439
Speaker 6: media is just something that you have to have some

2026
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,400
Speaker 6: kind of presence there, and that's not something that we

2027
01:34:59,720 --> 01:35:00,920
Speaker 6: really had to have.

2028
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:04,479
Speaker 2: So how do you navigate that in terms of using

2029
01:35:04,520 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 2: your social media? What works for you, what doesn't? How

2030
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 2: does that work for you?

2031
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I.

2032
01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,800
Speaker 5: Started with my Space, and I'm always engaged, and I've

2033
01:35:14,840 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 5: always engaged people, and I've always been transparent. I've always

2034
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:22,719
Speaker 5: been very transparent on social media to like I said,

2035
01:35:22,880 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 5: to make people feel like I'm not someone up here.

2036
01:35:25,880 --> 01:35:28,720
Speaker 5: I'm your homegirl next door. So when I say, you

2037
01:35:28,720 --> 01:35:30,960
Speaker 5: know whatever, I'm seeing what I've been through and blah

2038
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 5: blah blah. Or if I'm on a video telling you

2039
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 5: this at a third You're not listening to me like

2040
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,040
Speaker 5: somebody talking down to you. Listen to me like someone

2041
01:35:37,160 --> 01:35:39,320
Speaker 5: talking across you, like a friend. But that's kind of

2042
01:35:39,360 --> 01:35:42,400
Speaker 5: how I approach social media. It's new now because it's

2043
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 5: like called content, but I just always been doing this.

2044
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 5: I've just always been being myself on social media. I

2045
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 5: have to step it up now because it's like.

2046
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 1: I hate the job.

2047
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 7: I used to love it. But the thing is, I

2048
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:56,240
Speaker 7: used to love it.

2049
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:59,759
Speaker 5: I used to really freaking you had to do engaging

2050
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 5: as people.

2051
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 7: Until it became a thing.

2052
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:03,840
Speaker 5: Right now it's like you know this and the third

2053
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,400
Speaker 5: but I actually do like it, So I'm triggering.

2054
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,840
Speaker 7: My head back into like liking it.

2055
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:09,559
Speaker 5: A lot of the things that are going on now,

2056
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:12,120
Speaker 5: I used to do them before, not because I thought

2057
01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:12,920
Speaker 5: it was a thing.

2058
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:14,120
Speaker 7: Because I just wanted to do it.

2059
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 5: Do you understand what I'm saying? So I just couldn't

2060
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 5: I continue like I always say, you know, continue what

2061
01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:22,120
Speaker 5: you're doing and go harder to anybody, just continue what

2062
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 5: you're doing, go harder. And that's how I post social

2063
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 5: social media. Just now, I'm fixing my mind being that

2064
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:30,160
Speaker 5: I'm moving to new music to continue what I'm doing,

2065
01:36:30,160 --> 01:36:34,160
Speaker 5: but be more concise and like strategized about how you know,

2066
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:35,720
Speaker 5: strategizing how I want to do it.

2067
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 3: I love to watch you stand in your power on Instagram.

2068
01:36:38,200 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about that. I was telling the

2069
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,400
Speaker 3: guys that. I was like, I love that you stand

2070
01:36:42,439 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 3: in the power who you are not just inside but

2071
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:46,400
Speaker 3: also outside, you know what I mean.

2072
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 5: And I'm a pretty girl.

2073
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you're gorgeous.

2074
01:36:49,240 --> 01:36:49,720
Speaker 1: That's what I mean.

2075
01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:53,000
Speaker 5: You're gorgeous and you're surprisingly sick. So I was like,

2076
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:54,879
Speaker 5: I love, Yeah.

2077
01:36:54,760 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 2: We shouted you out on that. I must shout out

2078
01:36:56,439 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 2: the little brother shouting you out on our guest.

2079
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:02,320
Speaker 5: Really, yes, change myself situation, baby, that are you serious.

2080
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: People?

2081
01:37:05,640 --> 01:37:06,880
Speaker 2: I never knew that, like.

2082
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 7: Little brother did say.

2083
01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:08,320
Speaker 1: You know.

2084
01:37:08,360 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 7: And here's the thing.

2085
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 5: I joked a lot, like I think I'm cute, I

2086
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 5: think I'm pretty, but it's far more beautiful woman whatever block.

2087
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 5: But that's just a satittary thing. We big ourselves so

2088
01:37:15,640 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 5: we don't wait for people to cheerlead for us.

2089
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,360
Speaker 7: We just cheerlead by ourself.

2090
01:37:19,760 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 5: Like I keep my pom poms ready in case I

2091
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:23,280
Speaker 5: need to pick me up. And that's just kind of

2092
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:28,000
Speaker 5: how I am. So people experience and me being myself,

2093
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:30,000
Speaker 5: you know, and I think it's across from me.

2094
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,120
Speaker 7: It doesn't come all.

2095
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah in a different place.

2096
01:37:37,960 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 8: But you.

2097
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,519
Speaker 5: I got pom poms. They's just locked down right now, girl,

2098
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 5: I've seen them on the outage.

2099
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've seen them on that. Yes, your your new

2100
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 2: record so special? Round? I mean that make me with

2101
01:37:56,880 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 2: uh Brodie Brown, uncle chum? Not that is that?

2102
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:00,640
Speaker 5: No?

2103
01:38:00,800 --> 01:38:03,840
Speaker 2: That record is fucking great. I love it. How is

2104
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,120
Speaker 2: that setting up a new record?

2105
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:05,320
Speaker 5: Like?

2106
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 2: Where are you? What you're working on? Now? Where you at?

2107
01:38:07,600 --> 01:38:09,759
Speaker 7: Yes, I'm working on i'n call the bullshit.

2108
01:38:10,240 --> 01:38:13,679
Speaker 5: It's based on what I went through after my kids

2109
01:38:13,680 --> 01:38:16,080
Speaker 5: had grown up, right, and I didn't. I didn't date.

2110
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 7: I tried a.

2111
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 5: Little bit, but then I realized, you got out on

2112
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,639
Speaker 5: your plate, right, And I'm a person that when I love,

2113
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:25,320
Speaker 5: I get all involved, right, So I didn't have I

2114
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 5: couldn't just have a man in my life that might

2115
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:30,800
Speaker 5: deter me from my responsibilities, which were taking care of

2116
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 5: my kids and making music and you know all that stuff.

2117
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:35,120
Speaker 5: So I didn't really date. So by the time the

2118
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:37,519
Speaker 5: twins left and moved to LA to start pursuing what

2119
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 5: they wanted to do with music, I just went out

2120
01:38:39,880 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 5: in the world.

2121
01:38:40,240 --> 01:38:41,759
Speaker 7: I was like, Okay, I have a man.

2122
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:43,479
Speaker 5: And you know, giving my life and all this stuff.

2123
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:45,679
Speaker 5: And I was trashed. It was trash out.

2124
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 3: There in California.

2125
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I was.

2126
01:38:50,640 --> 01:38:52,479
Speaker 5: I was going out, but I traveled, so it's not

2127
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,000
Speaker 5: just in California. I'm in New Orleans, I'm in LA,

2128
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,320
Speaker 5: I'm in Miami. You know, I'm in New York. I'm

2129
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 5: in all these places, right. And it wasn't that I'm

2130
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 5: not saying that everybody was trashed. It just was trash

2131
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,639
Speaker 5: for me because I need genuine connection, you know. So

2132
01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 5: I've decided.

2133
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:06,000
Speaker 7: I met this guy who's really good, cute, and I was.

2134
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:07,280
Speaker 5: Just like, oh, hey, can be the one. I pulled

2135
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,559
Speaker 5: him in whatever, you know, because I'm a business woman.

2136
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,479
Speaker 5: That's how we handle everything else. Single mom and a

2137
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:13,320
Speaker 5: business woman is the worst because we think we could

2138
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,880
Speaker 5: make anything happen, right, And so I pulled this guy

2139
01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,920
Speaker 5: into my life, and I pulled the biggest bullshit into

2140
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 5: my life that I have ever experienced. I almost went

2141
01:39:24,080 --> 01:39:26,680
Speaker 5: gayly you understand me?

2142
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, started.

2143
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 5: He worered me out, you know what I'm saying.

2144
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:38,559
Speaker 6: So it was just like, dude, that was on your

2145
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:40,880
Speaker 6: I g because I would see something that you would post,

2146
01:39:41,320 --> 01:39:42,040
Speaker 6: would you post him?

2147
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:42,880
Speaker 2: Sometimes? Okay?

2148
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 1: It wasn't no, no, no, no.

2149
01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:46,719
Speaker 5: No, I'm not I would never he could be my husband.

2150
01:39:46,880 --> 01:39:50,000
Speaker 5: We could, I would you would never see some man, Okay, okay,

2151
01:39:50,560 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 5: smart thing for women and music are no. But yeah,

2152
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 5: it's just he just I liked him so much and

2153
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:57,960
Speaker 5: I just felt I just felt.

2154
01:39:57,680 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 7: Like it, because I'm into you, you should just really

2155
01:39:59,640 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 7: be good.

2156
01:40:00,320 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 5: It just didn't pan out. It was just I put

2157
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:05,519
Speaker 5: myself in that situation and I wanted to blame him,

2158
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:06,200
Speaker 5: but I couldn't.

2159
01:40:06,200 --> 01:40:07,519
Speaker 7: So there's a period of.

2160
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 5: Time during that It's like four years that I wrote

2161
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:11,760
Speaker 5: all these songs, and it was like what was coming

2162
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,200
Speaker 5: out of me at that time, genuinely coming out of me,

2163
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:16,400
Speaker 5: not me trying to conjure it up. Like you know.

2164
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 5: I have a record on the Eli Ka Trinada and

2165
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:23,840
Speaker 5: Duran Barnard, Yeah, simply called Fighting Farewell because I'm.

2166
01:40:23,640 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 7: Just I know I need to go. I knew this

2167
01:40:26,439 --> 01:40:27,760
Speaker 7: is done girl, what are you doing?

2168
01:40:28,040 --> 01:40:29,120
Speaker 5: And I'm fighting. I'm fighting.

2169
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 7: So this is what this album is about.

2170
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:33,280
Speaker 5: It's about, you know, trying to go out here and

2171
01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:37,439
Speaker 5: date and the bullshit I encounter and the emotions I encountered.

2172
01:40:37,479 --> 01:40:39,759
Speaker 5: But also the make Me album. We have a remix

2173
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Speaker 5: with Currency and Eric.

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Speaker 6: And Eric Belinger, Yeah, and we have to talk about

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Speaker 6: the Kate Trinada to be Your Girl, like like we

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Speaker 6: have to like and the record you did for him,

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Speaker 6: the Culture Joint on his album actually, and that.

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Speaker 5: Was co written with my sons.

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Speaker 2: He was.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was yeah, the the remix bringing that song

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Speaker 1: back some twelve years after, not even twelve, it was.

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Speaker 5: It was wild though. It was like twelve twenty twelve,

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Speaker 5: and I had record with Sleaks in two thousand and four.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it was yeah, it was a long time.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but I felt really good and I love him,

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Speaker 5: and I just thought it was super cool because we

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Speaker 5: got to we did that and now we all need him.

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Speaker 2: You know, I can't talk that now. I was so proud.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 2: I was so happy, I'll say.

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Speaker 6: However it happened without I was so happy to see

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Speaker 6: that be available on officially in streaming service.

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Speaker 2: However it get done, I don't care.

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Speaker 5: But we got together and we did it. Yeah, so

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Speaker 5: so yeah, but I was really appreciative, and I just feel, like,

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Speaker 5: to be honest with you, quest that made me feel

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Speaker 5: good as a songwriter, you know, I feel be Your

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Speaker 5: Girl makes me feel really good as a songwriter right up.

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Speaker 5: Because even if it's the original or the remix or

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Speaker 5: one of the other trillion remixes that people have done.

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Speaker 5: The fact that I did something that long ago, genuinely

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Speaker 5: from my heart and people still like it today, it

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Speaker 5: makes me feel really good.

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Speaker 7: I love Maids for that reason.

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Speaker 5: So the fact that I have a song that can

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Speaker 5: come on way later and people still get into it,

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Speaker 5: it just makes me feel really good. That's marks more

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Speaker 5: than the financial game of it. I feel really really

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Speaker 5: good as an artist that it's the same.

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Speaker 2: I love it well.

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Speaker 1: You know, I almost feel compelled to do our traditional ending,

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Speaker 1: in which we all say what we learned today. I

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Speaker 1: will say that it's don't come correct with teacher muses.

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Speaker 6: You've done become part of a narrative.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she gonna write it. She's gonna write a jam

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Speaker 2: about your ad.

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Speaker 3: All right, What else did we learn today?

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Speaker 2: I learned I did not know.

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Speaker 6: I swear I did not know that us shouting out

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Speaker 6: on the gangster girls that that you know that I

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Speaker 6: have no idea. Yeah, we was just I mean, we

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Speaker 6: were just showing you love, like I was. You know,

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Speaker 6: n we was just showing you love. I mean, I've

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01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 6: been bumping complex simplicity, and so you know, we're me

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Speaker 6: and Pools just talking ship that night in the studio,

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01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:17,760
Speaker 6: were starting to keep it so, Nah, I've been a

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Speaker 6: fan forever, and you know, just I see.

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Speaker 2: The people you work with.

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Speaker 6: You work with like a lot of you know, homies

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Speaker 6: I know and people I really respect, and I just

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01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:27,679
Speaker 6: really appreciate the way you've moved in this game. And

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Speaker 6: it's just You're always someone that I've always looked at,

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01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,560
Speaker 6: you know, you, my brother Eric Roberson, you know what

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01:43:33,600 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 6: I'm saying, just on the R and B level war

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01:43:35,240 --> 01:43:37,599
Speaker 6: It's just like yo, it is people out here that's

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01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:41,559
Speaker 6: eating like that are eating good and making good and

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01:43:41,640 --> 01:43:42,280
Speaker 6: raising family.

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Speaker 1: Kendred absolutely, Kendred the family.

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Speaker 6: So and so I just you know, thank you and

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Speaker 6: commend you for just you know, being just that person

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Speaker 6: and that artist and just having that integrity and you know,

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01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:53,920
Speaker 6: always putting your best foot forward in the music you

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01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:54,200
Speaker 6: put out.

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Speaker 2: It really means a lot, you know what.

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01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 5: Everybody else go Yeah, you can so much.

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01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:04,759
Speaker 1: You can go ahead.

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01:44:05,080 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 4: It is your show.

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01:44:06,360 --> 01:44:07,639
Speaker 1: No Oh.

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Speaker 4: I learned two things. One, uh Fonte and Teacher should

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Speaker 4: have their own podcast and conversation conversations, and two I've

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01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:23,120
Speaker 4: never been so proud to be Sagittarius whole life.

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01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is like a Sagittary Sarious appreciation album. I

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01:44:28,479 --> 01:44:30,559
Speaker 2: didn't know about big as Sagittarius, but.

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Speaker 1: I know a whole lot now.

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Speaker 3: I don't learned, all right, what you learn I don't, Oh, well,

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Speaker 3: I just do go quick. I have just learned that

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Speaker 3: what I already knew that teacher is my whole tribesman.

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01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,759
Speaker 3: Every everything that she does I kind of do outside

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Speaker 3: of singing and songwriting. And also I've been learned that

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Speaker 3: Teacher Moses is an amazing softball player. I just want

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Speaker 3: to throw that out.

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Speaker 5: On top of everything else that you.

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Speaker 3: Do, this bitch can kill on the field.

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Speaker 7: Well I had to that day. I'm kind of how

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01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,320
Speaker 7: you can't do what I gotta do.

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01:45:03,400 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 3: No, you you stow, you stow bases and everything.

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01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, we played.

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01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:08,679
Speaker 7: We played a small can run fast.

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Speaker 1: You'll own the softball team together?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, you know not know this.

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01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,599
Speaker 3: I used to play on the Boys and Girls cup

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Speaker 3: on the softballs. Yes, I'm here.

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Speaker 2: My name is Steve.

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Speaker 1: She knows what the sports are, the sports.

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Speaker 5: I know what the sports are, all right, Steve?

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Speaker 2: What you learn?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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01:45:27,640 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 11: I learned that she's cool and I like her and

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01:45:29,920 --> 01:45:32,800
Speaker 11: she's a great interview. Thank you for doing this for

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01:45:32,880 --> 01:45:38,599
Speaker 11: us today. Also in defensive asshole boyfriends, Sorry, but we

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Speaker 11: do we do help you come up with good materials.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready.

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Speaker 2: When is it coming? We have a date for it

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Speaker 2: yet not yet? Okay, this is okay, twenty twenty two,

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Speaker 2: it's coming this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, or you know our listeners won't be able

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Speaker 1: to see this, but okay. So she's alright, mentioned it

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01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, all right. Instead of me looking

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01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 1: at my my psychedelic kaleidoscope imagery, I started putting uh

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Speaker 1: on my television screen.

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Speaker 5: Belly, I tell you, I tell.

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Speaker 1: You, Belly with the volume down is.

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01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:23,480
Speaker 2: Actually it's great. It looks amazing.

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01:46:23,960 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: It is a beautiful. I never really noticed the cinematize.

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01:46:27,120 --> 01:46:28,559
Speaker 1: It's a video video.

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01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:32,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, script it is.

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Speaker 7: I'm beautiful.

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01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:35,559
Speaker 5: It is beautiful, the.

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Speaker 1: Lighted with the volume down? Who is she.

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Speaker 5: Probably be very beautiful?

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Speaker 7: Still she is?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I just remember that her sister was on

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01:46:48,560 --> 01:46:50,559
Speaker 3: a reality showing a gospel play. There's a whole nother

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01:46:50,600 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 3: thing with Jenny Wye. You know, none matter, but I

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01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:53,799
Speaker 3: know she's.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, for real, teacher, This is long overdue. We thank

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Speaker 1: you very much for doing the show.

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Speaker 7: Thank you guys much.

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Speaker 5: I had a great time. I also want to say

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Speaker 5: to you before I go, congratulations on your great documentary.

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Speaker 5: Is really really amazing. I really appreciate that. And look,

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Speaker 5: I appreciate all that it's getting to because it was

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Speaker 5: so cool.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully by the time this makes it to air, I

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Speaker 1: will winning. Yes, manifested, Yes, absolutely all right, so on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the Great Teacher Moses and I'm paid, Bill

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Speaker 1: and Chuck, Steve, Fon, Tikolo and Ev. This is another

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Speaker 1: classic much love Sacre Nate stravaganza. We will see you

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Speaker 1: on the next stor down. Thank you very much. Much

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Speaker 1: Love Supreme is a production on iHeart Radio. For more

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Speaker 1: podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

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