1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: The most valuable commandity I know of his information. 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you agree? 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 3: Great? 4 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: Five dollars. This is a regular level howboy tackled kite. 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:18,239 Speaker 3: You're saying that humans need fantasy to make life. 6 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: Bearable, humans need fantasy to be human. 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 3: My goodness helps good. 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: I suppose the best, relentless, refusing to give up. All right, 9 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: hit that horn, Bayless. 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Fantasy Flex Podcast. 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: I am your host, Chris. 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: Raybond, joined as always by my guy Sean Kerner, and 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 2: today is our annual props episode. We're gonna talk all 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: about player props. Sean excited for this one, right, Yes, 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: Like I said, every year, this is my favorite offseason pod. 16 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: Can't wait to talk about some player props. Oah, So 17 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: we're gonna We're gonna each We're gonna go through. We're 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 2: gonna start with quarterback props, then go through running back 19 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: props that we like, then wide receiver tight end props 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: to close it out. 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 3: So we'll have a bunch of these. 22 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: And this podcast sponsored by Prize Picks, so we will 23 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: use the Prize Picks lines. All right, Sean, start us off. 24 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 2: Give me a prop you like for QB. 25 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: So I'm going with Jamis Winston under forty two hundred 26 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 1: passing yards, and I'll throw on the under twenty three 27 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: and a half passing touchdowns as well. I think that, 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,479 Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to Jamis Winston, he has 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: a wide, wide range of outcomes this year. I mean, 30 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: he could end up playing all seventeen games, have a 31 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: career year and just fly over these totals, right, But 32 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: he also has a really low floor, so I think 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: his medium should be much much lower. You know, he's 34 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,080 Speaker 1: been announced as the Week one starter, we know that, 35 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: but even though he's starting, I mean, Taysom Hill's still 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: going to be involved in the offense, especially around the 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: goal line. Like I think that's one of the reasons 38 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: why I like he's under on his passing touchdowns as well. 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: But you know, any given week, I think Taysom Hill 40 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: could take over this offense. And even if Winston were 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: to start, you know, ten plus games, he doesn't have 42 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: the greatest wide receiver depth chart or even tight end 43 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: depth chart. Now that am Trotman's hurt, so I think 44 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: Winston has an uphill battle to clear these numbers. So 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: you know, I would set this line maybe closer to 46 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 1: thirty eight hundred passing yards and maybe twenty one and 47 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: a half passing touchdowns just a factor in, you know, 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: the extreme floor that Winston has, So I love the 49 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: under for both of these. 50 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 2: How many starts are you projecting Jameis Winston to make 51 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 2: as opposed to Taysom Hill this year? 52 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: So I have I mean, Taysom Hill is gonna technically 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: play in seventeen games. That's that's why he's kind of 54 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: tricky to project, but I have Winston projected to start 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: thirteen games. But it's it's one of those projections where 56 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: how can you feel good about it one way or 57 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: the other. So it's kind of where I've just settled 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: and at that projection, I haven't at thirty five hundred 59 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: passing yards. But again, would it surprise me that he, 60 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, ends up throwing for forty five hundred passing yards? 61 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: Of course not, it's it's Jameis Winston. But this is 62 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: a case where I think the median is much much 63 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: lower than you know, the mean, or like this is 64 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: almost like his ceiling. So I think that there's just 65 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: so much value on these unders that the game projection 66 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: itself is kind of why I like this under. It 67 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: it's so he's such a fickle player to project that 68 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: it does favor the under here absolutely. 69 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: And you know, we tend to project median projections. When 70 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: you guys see our projections on Action network dot Com 71 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: in the Fantasy tool, those are median projections. But every 72 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: player has a range of outcomes that you want to 73 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: take into account. And with this situation, regardless of where 74 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: you have the median at and Private Picks has it 75 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 2: at forty two hundred yards. But I think there's a 76 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: low floor, right, Like there's the amount of the range 77 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 2: of outcomes on the bottom side for Jamis Winston is 78 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: wider and larger than it is on the top. 79 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 3: So I agree. 80 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: I think the forty two hundred number is a lot 81 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 2: closer to his ceiling because I think the Saints still 82 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 2: going to be a pretty good defense, still going to 83 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 2: be a team that's going to run the ball with 84 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara and you know, with Tavius or maybe DeVante 85 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 2: Freeman if you believe some of the camp hype. But 86 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: I would be surprised if Jamis got over these over 87 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 2: that number. So I like that one a lot. My 88 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: first one is going to be Sam Darnald under twenty 89 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: three and a half passing touchdowns. And this is another 90 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: one where we're just kind of assuming Sam Donald's going 91 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: to start every single game for Carolina. That probable, but 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 2: it's never what really happened for Donald in his career. 93 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: He's always either missed, timed and then last year, remember Carolina, 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 2: they went away from Bridgewater in some games a little 95 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: bit toward the end of the season. So but more importantly, 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: remember Bridgewater is like, hey, this team, we didn't practice 97 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 2: situational football. They had sixteen passing touchdowns last year. 98 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 3: That's it. And for all of the receivers. 99 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: That kind of went off, you know, Dj Moore were 100 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: really just Dj Moore and Robbie Andersaid, but they played 101 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: really well for that team to still only have sixteen 102 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: passing touchdowns. And now you're asking Sam Donald to go 103 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 2: like essentially one point five x stat That means he 104 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: has to start every game and play better than the 105 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: Stam Donald that has played for the Jets. Seventeen touchdowns 106 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: in thirteen games in his rookie year, nineteen touchdowns in 107 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 2: thirteen games his second year, just nine touchdowns in twelve 108 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: games last year. So the most recent season is the 109 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: ugliest one of all, I just don't see a huge 110 00:06:04,800 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 2: jump for Sam Donald, especially on a team where outside 111 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 2: of Christian McCaffrey, who's a running back, so the touchdown 112 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 2: expectation is never going to be super high. 113 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 3: DJ Moore is not really a red zone guy. 114 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 2: He's four touchdowns, even though he's gotten nearly twelve hundred 115 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: yards in back to back years, has a top four touchdowns. 116 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 2: Robbie Anderson's never been a big touchdown guy. Terrace Marshall, 117 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 2: he's a rookie going to play in the slot. That 118 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 2: doesn't project for a ton of touchdowns either. And then 119 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 2: Dan Arnold's not even really a traditional tight end. I 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: just don't see where you're getting all these touchdowns from, 121 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 2: even if Donald starts every game. 122 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 3: So this one is a few touchdowns too high for me. 123 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm going under twenty three and a half passing touchdowns 124 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: for Sam Donald. 125 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: No comments, okay, oh yeah. 126 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, Like anytime you can go against Sam Donald, 127 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,280 Speaker 1: I'm not going to stop you. I do think you're 128 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: underselling Terrence Marshall a little bit there. I think he 129 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: will sort of be the red zone threat. But again, yeah, 130 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: under twenty three and a half passing touchdowns sign me 131 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: up for that. 132 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 3: Yeah. 133 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 2: I mean I like Terrace Marshall as much as the 134 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: next guy. But you're talking about a guy who had 135 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 2: nine touchdowns and twelve starts last year and a team 136 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 2: that he's going to that had sixteen touchdowns in sixteen games. 137 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: It's just a big regression to the mean upwards projection 138 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: to get Sam Darnold there. So yeah, I am going 139 00:07:28,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: under for him. Give me another one for quarterback Shaw. 140 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: So I'm going with Jalen Hurts over six hundred and 141 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: fifty five and a half rushing yards. I'm projecting him 142 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: closer to seven hundred and fifty. You know, there is 143 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: some uncertainty if he's going to grow as a passer 144 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: this year, and I share that concern, but he won't 145 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 1: have to to clear this prop because we already know 146 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: he's a really good runner, an elite rushing quarterback at that. So, 147 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: you know, rushing sets are much more predictive. This feels like, 148 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: you know, will he play over under fourteen games kind 149 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: of prop in my opinion, So I'm taking the over here, 150 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: and I would, you know, take probably up to seven 151 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 1: hundred maybe seven twenty. Like I said, this is a 152 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: pretty predictive stat So that's why I'm really comfortable taking 153 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: me over six fifty five here. 154 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him over seven hundred rushing yards as well. 155 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 2: And the reason it's so predictive is because scramble rate 156 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 2: is very very sticky, like a quarterback's rate of scrambling 157 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 2: is going to be. You can have like a couple 158 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 2: of games worse, maybe even just one or two games 159 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: worth of dropbacks, and you can get a very good 160 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: idea of a quarterback scramble rate because most quarterbacks they 161 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: either do it or they don't. So Jalen Hurts scrambled 162 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: on thirteen zero point five percent of his dropbacks a 163 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 2: year ago. I haven't regressing to the mean a little bit. 164 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 2: The leak average is closer to five percent. But I 165 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: have him still scrambling about eleven percent of the time 166 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:02,959 Speaker 2: this year, so that is good. And the average scramble 167 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 2: is like a pass attempt in terms of yard are 168 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 2: just going to get you like seven yards a pop, 169 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: regardless of the quarterback. So yeah, it's I think it's 170 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 2: a very very high floor projection. The only thing that 171 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 2: could really vombit is if he doesn't play enough games, 172 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: Like you. 173 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: Said, that's the concern for sure. That's why it feels 174 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 1: like games played prop which there's you know, there's fair 175 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: concern there, but it's you know, I would take the 176 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: over fourteen, and that's kind of what this feels like. 177 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 2: He does face the Falcons in Week one, so you 178 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: could get you know, a buck fifty right up to that, you. 179 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 3: Know, just run around start. 180 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I can't even I could see that 181 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: game just being the Eagle's best offensive performance. 182 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 3: Of the year. 183 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 2: I'm very curious to see how the Falcons feel the 184 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 2: a competitive defense this year. So, uh, like the over 185 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: for Jalen Hurts Russian, I'm going to go with Aaron 186 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: Rodgers under four thousand and five hundred and fifty passing yards. 187 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers had an amazing season last year. He took 188 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: what he was struggling at, you know, the year before, 189 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 2: which was they still win thirteen to three. But he 190 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 2: you know, he said, he you know, used COVID to 191 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 2: really kind of see what was going wrong the previous 192 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 2: few years. His numbers had dipped, and he came back 193 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,599 Speaker 2: with a vengeance. I think he did make some improvements 194 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 2: to his mental game with in terms of handling pressure 195 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: and things like that. But to hit this number, he'd 196 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: essentially have to average the same amount of passing yards 197 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: per game as last year, about two hundred and seventy 198 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 2: yards per game a little more, actually play all seventeen games, 199 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,439 Speaker 2: and he would have on top of that, he would 200 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 2: have to, you know, come close to that eight point 201 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 2: two yards per attempt average. He hadn't gone above eight 202 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: since twenty fourteen. So does he play every game? Maybe 203 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: green Bay could be really good. Maybe they you know, 204 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,760 Speaker 2: he sits the last week the season out, Maybe the 205 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 2: yards per attempt comes down. Maybe DeVante Adams misses a 206 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: few games, which would bring the prop down. But on 207 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: top of that, one of the things that Rodgers changed 208 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. He made sure to take as much 209 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 2: time as he needed to manipulate the defense. The green 210 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 2: Bay Packers had the slowest situation neutral pace in the league, 211 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 2: and they were basically last in every single pace category, 212 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 2: you know, whether it was leading, trailing, first, second half, whatever. 213 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: They were near the bottom of the league or at 214 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: the bottom. 215 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 3: Of the league. 216 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 2: So so many things would have to go right for 217 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,959 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers to hit this. And these are the kind 218 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 2: of props I love unders where a guy could have 219 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 2: a very good season and still fall short of the 220 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 2: prop because again Green Bay thirteen and three two years 221 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: in a row, the game script might just not be 222 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 2: necessary for Aaron Rodgers to throw over four five hundred 223 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 2: and fifty yards. So this one is one where you 224 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 2: might see the name and be scared to bet the under. 225 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 3: But I love the under here. 226 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love it too. And obviously there's an extra 227 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: game this year, but he hasn't gone over this total 228 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: since twenty eleven, I believe, And if you were to 229 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: add you know, say two hundred and fifty yards every 230 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: total the past ten years, he'd still be under most 231 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: of the times. Aaron Rodgers just pure status. This year, 232 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: I think the Packers will be really good, so yeah, 233 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: I think that they could run a little bit more. 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: So I agree with this under here. Really haven't projected 235 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 1: right now for passing. 236 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: Yards I have him at because. 237 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: I'm one hundred yards less. I'm almost two hundred west. 238 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 2: I'm at forty three sixty two okay, cool? 239 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, one hundred yards less is a big 240 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: deal because there's there's so many more outs for the 241 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: under to hit. Like you said, they could have a 242 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 1: round one by in the playoffs already locked up, and 243 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: he sits, we get eighteen. There's so many other things 244 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: that can happen for the under to hit. Whereas you know, 245 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: last year was kind of a ceiling year, so he 246 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: should you know, arrest somewhat this year. So yeah, I 247 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: love this prop a lot. 248 00:12:57,040 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 2: And you know what, we should talk about this now 249 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 2: before we because it's kind of an underlying theme that 250 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 2: I doubt a lot of other people are going to 251 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: talk about or podcasts are going. 252 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: To talk about. 253 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: But we should talk about this because it affects the 254 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: player of projections, and that is the league averages from 255 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: last year. Last year, the NFL said an all time 256 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 2: scoring record at twenty four point eight points per game. 257 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 2: That was one point four points higher than the previous high, 258 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 2: which was twenty three to four in twenty thirteen. Also 259 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: sixty four point three plays per game. You know, that 260 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 2: was up from the prior uh, you know, six years, 261 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:40,600 Speaker 2: five years, so that was a five year high passing. 262 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: You know, interceptions were down, you know, obviously holding penalties 263 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 2: were down, so kind of there was like a one 264 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 2: point one less penalties per game. I mean a lot 265 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 2: of that I think was due you know, partly to 266 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 2: the holding, but also the COVID situation and defense is 267 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: not really being prepared. I think the lack of the 268 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: crowd noise impact benefited the offense and impacted the defense. 269 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: So do you think there could be a little bit 270 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: of regression league wide in these offensive numbers because essentially 271 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 2: almost across the board we saw outliers in offensive production 272 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 2: last year. 273 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, you laid out some of the things 274 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: I was going to mention, like the holding, the crowd noise, 275 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: the lack of offseason for the defense. I think that 276 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: you know, in general, the league is going to be 277 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: higher scoring going forward. The league is getting more pass happy, 278 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: more analytical, the you know, the quarterbacks are just getting better. 279 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: There's so many good quarterbacks. So I think just the 280 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: league in general, you know, start to score more. But 281 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: like you said, I think last year was sort of 282 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: the extreme. So I think that, yeah, we'll see a 283 00:14:46,120 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: little bit less this year. Is especially with the crowd 284 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: noise and everything, that's going to really help you know, 285 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: the home team. So I think that, yeah, that's a 286 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: smart call where all these players might take a step 287 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: back just based on kind of the league having these 288 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: you know, extra factor is going into this year. 289 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not a huge thing. 290 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: But when you're talking about these season one crops and 291 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, every ten twenty yards is you know, a 292 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 2: little bit of an edge. Every five receptions is a 293 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 2: little bit of an edge, Every like half a touchdown 294 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: is an edge. I think that's important because I do 295 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 2: have league wide the numbers regressing just a tiny bit, 296 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: Like I have completion percentage you know, in my projections 297 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: down maybe about a half a percent, so my reception totals, 298 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: you know, would be a tiny bit lower than last year. 299 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 2: Same thing for touchdowns, you know, have them down just 300 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: a tiny bit from their all time highs. Because one 301 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 2: point four points over your previous high, like that's an outlier. 302 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: That's huge. 303 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 2: So maybe it could continue, but we can't bank on that, 304 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 2: especially with stands back in the stands. So definitely something 305 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: to keep in mind, and I think something that it's 306 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 2: something that gives you a little extra incentive to go 307 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: under with some of these big numbers. 308 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it going. 309 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: I had Darnold under, Rogers under, you had Winston under, 310 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: and Hurts over. 311 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 3: Give me another QB prop. 312 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: I'm going with Josh Allen under four hundred and eighty 313 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: rushing yards. You know, there's two hundred and fifty eight 314 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: million reasons why the Bills probably want him to run 315 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: it a little bit less going forward. You know, they 316 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: want to protect him. You know, he took a really 317 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: big step last year as a passer, so he didn't 318 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: really have to run as much. You mentioned scrambling rate 319 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,560 Speaker 1: when it comes to quarterbacks and sort of rushing stats, 320 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: and we've seen his scrambling rate drop pretty significantly every year. 321 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: Now as a rookie, I think is around twelve percent, 322 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: His second year is around eight and a half, and 323 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: then last year dropped down to like five and a 324 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: half percent. So we've seen, you know, the more comfortable 325 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: he is in the pocket and with his throwing ability, 326 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: he's running a bit less now. I think that he 327 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: will still run around the red zone. So I'm still 328 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: projecting him for a ton of touchdowns. I have him 329 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: at seven and a half rushing touchdowns, but his rushing 330 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: yards you have closer to four hundred and four hundred 331 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: and seven rushing yards right now. So I think that 332 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, this prop I don't really see how it's 333 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 1: going to go over. You know, I think there's a 334 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: little bit lower floor on this one. Last year he 335 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: ran for four hundred and twenty rushing yards in sixteen games, 336 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,600 Speaker 1: so I think that that might be kind of the 337 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: baseline going forward. So an extra game there would still 338 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: put him under this number. So again we were talking 339 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: about different outs for the under hitting again, missing a 340 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: game due to injury, you know, not having to play 341 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: week eighteen because they have a first round by There's 342 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 1: there's so many more outs for the under hitting that 343 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: if my projection is a little bit closer and I 344 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: don't really see any reason for him to increase his 345 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: issues there this year, I'd like that ender even more 346 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: so That's why I love this pick. Under four hundred 347 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: and eighty yards is another great pick I like here. 348 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've met four forty six in sixteen and a 349 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 2: half games, So sixteen and a half games usually my 350 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: default for quarterbacks in less someone's going on there, So yeah, 351 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: I have them thirty five yards under. And that's what 352 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 2: is That's like a game's worth rushing yards. 353 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: That's almost a game for him. So yeah, I'm right 354 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: there with you. 355 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, And it doesn't sound like a lot, I know 356 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: to people listening maybe who aren't used to doing some 357 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 2: of these kind of things or you're just listening for fantasy. 358 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 2: I still have Allen as my QB too, but Ima 359 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: Murray is right there for me, like they're almost tied, 360 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 2: because I think Murray's going to have a schedule that 361 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 2: favors a little bit more shootout kind of style, whereas 362 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: the Bills are going to be so good that we 363 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: could see Josh Allen regrets, not because he takes a 364 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 2: step back, but just because the Bills are pretty good 365 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: and they were good last year obviously. But something to 366 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: keep in mind that I don't really have a ton 367 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: of separation there between Allen and Murray and Jackson's sitting 368 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,199 Speaker 2: there and forth with that kind of catching up to 369 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: him because there's just so many injuries in Baltimore on 370 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 2: that offense that I don't know what exactly they're going 371 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:02,160 Speaker 2: to do, but right, yeah, but I mean the more 372 00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 2: you run it, you know, the more that opens a 373 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: guy like Lamar Jackson up to injury. So it's kind 374 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 2: of like, yeah, I think that you have some outs 375 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: for Jackson under as well, and that's why I'm actually 376 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 2: going with the under seven and a half rushing touchdowns 377 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 2: for him and a lot of people may say, Okay, JK. 378 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: Dobbins got hurt, they'll probably run Lamar more. But again, 379 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 2: I just think, first of all, Dobbins was such a 380 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: high efficiency runner that I think it knocks this offense 381 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: down a tiny bit. 382 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 3: Gus Edwards is good, but JK. Dobbins was otherworldly. 383 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: You already expected some regression from what a Dobbins average 384 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 2: six point zero yards per carry last year on one 385 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,439 Speaker 2: hundred and thirty four carries, so you expected some regression already, 386 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 2: but I think you expect a little. 387 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 3: Bit more now with him out for the year. 388 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 2: So I don't know if they'll beat close, you know, 389 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 2: to the red zone quite as much as they would 390 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 2: especially because you also have Marquis Brown missing time and 391 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 2: Watkins missing time, and Bateman is going to be out 392 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 2: to start the season. Nick Boyle just came back, so 393 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: I could just see a sloppy stretch for Baltimore. But 394 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 2: also you look at Lamar and he had seven rushing 395 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: touchdowns last year in fifteen games, but he had touchdowns 396 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: of fifty, thirty seven and thirty seven as three of 397 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: those seven. So I think that yeah, you still expect 398 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,639 Speaker 2: Lamar to get some some scores. But It was also 399 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: a pretty big record setting year for quarterback rushing touchdowns, 400 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: so I have a lot of regressions there too. So 401 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 2: I like a lot of the unders for quarterback rushing touchdowns, 402 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: but I have Lamar closer to six six and a half, 403 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 2: not seven to seven and a half. I just think 404 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 2: you're going to that's the stat you see. You're going 405 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: to see some regression in you For Lamar, I just 406 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 2: think getting it real good with seven and back to 407 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:56,359 Speaker 2: back years, but I don't think he sets a career 408 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 2: high with eight this year. 409 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 3: So going under Lamar rushing touchdowns, yeah, Like. 410 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: I haven't projected seven point one rushing touchdowns, but here 411 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned it where every half, Yeah, touchdown counts for 412 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: you know, a quarterback like this, Like you said his 413 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,359 Speaker 1: career high as seven touchdowns. He's done it in back 414 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: to back years, of course, and there's an extra game 415 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: this year. But he's the kind of quarterback where I 416 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: don't know where you haven't projected for games played by 417 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: him a little bit lower than your traditional quarterback because 418 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: you know, he is a running quarterback, so he's more 419 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: prone injury. So I'm projecting him for sixteen point one 420 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 1: games played, So that's why I'm still projecting him around 421 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:34,879 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns. But where do you have him for games played? 422 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have him at sixteen to five. 423 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: I had him a little lower earlier when he wasn't practicing, 424 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: he was on a COVID list. 425 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 3: But I tend. 426 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 2: To leave most guys that are like healthy and you know, 427 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: not there's not something crazy at sixteen to five. 428 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 3: But I think that's actually a good call. 429 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: You know, if I might make some little tweaks here 430 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 2: and there, like I have Dak at sixteen, he's one 431 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: of the guys that because there's some uncertainty there, I'll 432 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 2: have a. 433 00:21:59,000 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 3: Little further down. 434 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 2: But either way, I think, you know, if I lowered Lamar, 435 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: let's se I can do it right now. If I 436 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: lowered Lamar to sixteen games, then his rushing touchdowns total. 437 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: The fives for you, Yeah, it's like five to five. 438 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 2: So yeah, and again that's not just a knock on Lamar. 439 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:21,880 Speaker 2: It's because quarterback rushing touchdowns last year were around zero 440 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 2: point two per game, whereas historically they've been more around 441 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 2: you know, well one point one two five, which is 442 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 2: like two in a sixteen two per sixteen games. Last 443 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 2: year they were like three per sixteen games. And yeah, 444 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 2: there's some there's better scramblers in the league. Now there's 445 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,160 Speaker 2: guys that are more athletic, but still it's not easy 446 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 2: to score a rushing. 447 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: Touchdown, even if you're a quarterback. 448 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: You know, the defense tightens up in that red zones 449 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 2: and it's it's tough to break off three thirty five 450 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 2: plus touchdown runs. 451 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 3: In a season. 452 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: And to his credit, he really doesn't take that many 453 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 1: big hits. He's so fast that he can usually escape 454 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: really a big hits. But for a quarterback like him, 455 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: any kind of hamstring pull or an ankle tweak, like 456 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: anything can really set him back. So it's it's not 457 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: so much you know, he's just running around gonna get 458 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,159 Speaker 1: hit hard. It's also just these soft tissue injuries things 459 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: like that. He just he just puts himself at such 460 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: a risk and he depends on his legs so much 461 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: that any kind of injury will set him back a lot. 462 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,440 Speaker 1: So that's why I think a guy like him, there's 463 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 1: so many outs for the unders that yeah, like if 464 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: you're going to attack him, you'd want to attack the unders. 465 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 2: And just schematically speaking as well, with the way Baltimore's 466 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: receiving corpse has been trending. With everyone missing time and 467 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: guys out of the lineup, defenses are gonna be able 468 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: to force Lamar to throw, you know, especially now with JK. 469 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 2: Dobbins out, like Lamar is the main focus of the 470 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: defense and containing him. I mean it has been before, 471 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,240 Speaker 2: but it just gets a little easier with what's going 472 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: on in Baltimore. 473 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 3: So yeah, a lot of outs there. Who you got for? 474 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 3: We're gonna do four each for each type of props? 475 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 3: So who is he? Which is your fourth one? For 476 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: qbast My fourth one is a fun one. 477 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: I want to bank on two a tongue of villaw 478 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: having a bounce back year two, So I'm going over 479 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: thirty nine hundred passing yards. You know, his rookie season 480 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: was really rough. He didn't make his first start until 481 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 1: week eight because they had Ryan Fitzmagic, and then he 482 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: was benched in game in week eleven, and you know 483 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,479 Speaker 1: we kind of know the rest from there. But you know, 484 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: he was coming off a hip injury. It was a 485 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: COVID deleted offseason. It's it was really tough for him 486 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: as a rookie. I think the offense under chan Gaily 487 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,479 Speaker 1: was tailored for Ryan Fitzpatrick. So I think that you know, 488 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: heading it. This year, he's looked a lot better. I mean, 489 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: I've watched every preseason snap he's played, and he looks 490 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: like a brand new quarterback. It's it's almost like he 491 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: should have sat out last season, that's how much better 492 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: he looks. So that's why I'm very bullish on him 493 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: this year now. And he has Jalen Waddell who's looked great, 494 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: and Will Fuller. We haven't really seen will Fuller much, 495 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: but he will be healthy for about ten games at least, 496 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 1: so I think he's going to bring that extra element 497 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: to to his game. Fuller has always made the quarterback 498 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: look good, so I think that's going to help. And 499 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: then Mike Jesicki and DeVante Parker are still there, so 500 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:14,199 Speaker 1: I love to. 501 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 2: Uh. 502 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: I know, you think that Jacoby Brissett might you know, 503 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: be a threat of an end game mentioning, but I 504 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: think To has looked good enough where I'm betting gets 505 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: at this year, and I love the over thirty nine 506 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: hundred yards. 507 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. 508 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's your recency bias from 509 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 2: watching To and destroy the Falcons backup. I know you 510 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 2: had some action on that, and yet you cashed your 511 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: cash though, you know, other. 512 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: Than nothing, I obviously don't want to say I'm taking 513 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 1: too much away from preseason, but it's better than nothing, right, 514 00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: I mean he did look a lot better. Oh absolutely, 515 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: That's all we can ask for with to is. We 516 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: know he's talented and last year he had a lot 517 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: of excuses, but this is a make or breakthrough. You 518 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: hate to say that for a second year player, but 519 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: it really is. And I think he's looked a lot 520 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: better than I expected. 521 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 2: The interesting thing to me, I mean, you know, I'm 522 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 2: I usually stay away from the overs, but one thing 523 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 2: that scares me is the Deshaun Watson trade rumors. I 524 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: don't think there's a much of a chance that Watson 525 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 2: gets traded to Miami in plays, but Miami has been 526 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: right there at the top of the list with the 527 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 2: Philadelphia Eagles as the teams that he's been rumored to. 528 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: So does that factor in it all? Like I know, 529 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: earlier in. 530 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 2: The offseason, we talked about kind of factoring Aaron Rodgers 531 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 2: potential land in spots like, is Watson a factor in 532 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 2: your predictions at all? 533 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 3: At this point? 534 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: Or is it just move it gets moved because he's 535 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 1: he's uncappable. I can't even think of words that scribe. 536 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: But in those situations, wouldn't like either hurts or to 537 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: a now become the Texans quarterback? Like I can't imagine 538 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: there be a trade where there all of a sudden 539 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 1: backing up Watson, right, Like, I don't know, Like it 540 00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:55,360 Speaker 1: seems like they would still start for somebody in those situations, 541 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: right you. 542 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 2: Would think, I mean two a tecond I los second 543 00:26:59,520 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: year player. 544 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: Uh you know, is the Texans a guy give Watson 545 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: away for free? Like they didn't even ask for quarterback, 546 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: Like imagine, no. 547 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: Like it's Brissette, They'll get Brissette put Tyrod. 548 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, so here, how can you factor that? And obviously 549 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 1: there that is some risks anytime you're taking it over 550 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 1: for a season long prop you know, it's it's not fun, 551 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: but that's you know, that's part of the fun is 552 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: she would have to bounce back here. And I'm just 553 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: kind of ignoring the noise with the Deshaun Watson situation, 554 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: which I think you can. I think it's it's a 555 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: low probability he's gonna play for anybody this year so 556 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,120 Speaker 1: I think that some like that I'm basically ignoring on 557 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: this prop. 558 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: Okay, it's not a prize picks prop, but I got 559 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 2: a prop for you real quick. Over under games played 560 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: this season combined, uh seventeen and a half Will Fuller 561 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 2: plus DeShawn Jackson. 562 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: Oh, DeShawn Jackson, Will Fuller. I want to root for 563 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: the over, So I'm taking the over. But I think, yeah, 564 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 1: both will be around nine or ten games. 565 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 3: I'll be an improvement for DeShawn. That's a good look. 566 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like what two games in the past three 567 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: seasons or something. 568 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, three games. 569 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to see them play more than that. 570 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna I'm gonna take the over here. I'm 571 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna be a donkey and take the over. 572 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 2: I still can't believe that Will Fuller got suspended last year. 573 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 3: I mean I was I remember screaming. 574 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 2: It out, like, don't don't like label a guy injury prone. 575 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna have a great year. And then 576 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,640 Speaker 3: he was doing exactly what I thought he would do. 577 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: And then he did exactly what everyone else thought he 578 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: would do in miss games, and not because of injury, 579 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 2: but because he you know, he was enhancing his performance 580 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 2: so he didn't get injured. 581 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, see it cancel itself out, like that's the only reason. 582 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: Maybe he stayed healthy. Who knows, but yeah, of course 583 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: he gets suspended. 584 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: So yeah, I just I just hope we don't see 585 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: too much Albert Wilson in Miami. I feel like I 586 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 2: keep hearing about him in camp, and it's you know, 587 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh man, it's like, if we see too 588 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: much of him, we know it's probably things are probably 589 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 2: going well. 590 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: It's gonna be way better than last year. Remember it 591 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: last year? And then they have like six or seven 592 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: running back slash wide receiver High Bowden, Lynn Bowden, Malcolm Perry. 593 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 1: I think who looked again looked pretty good in preseason. 594 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: If you're gonna make the team, I don't know, Like 595 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: I don't think I haven't projected to make the team. 596 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,720 Speaker 1: Who but jackim grant all those low a kind of 597 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: guys like Tua was dealing with that last year. Just 598 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,720 Speaker 1: if we can get Will Fuller to stay healthy for 599 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: ten plus games, you know two is going to crush 600 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,520 Speaker 1: this problem. 601 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Jamn Wadow don't underestimate him. That's a that's 602 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: a talent right there. That could change your whole uh, 603 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 2: you know, your whole stat line if you're a quarterback. 604 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 2: So exactly, I'm going to round out our quarterback props 605 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: with Matt Ryan. I'm going under twenty nine and a 606 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 2: half passing touchdow. So Matt Ryan would essentially need to 607 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 2: play every game and average one point seven touchdowns per game. 608 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 2: He's averaged one point six per game or fewer in 609 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 2: three of the last four years. He's you know, going 610 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 2: to a new offensive coordinator obviously, you know, there's just 611 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: a lot of change. Julio Jones has gone. Remember even 612 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: when Matt Ryan had some really good years under had 613 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: that really good year under Kyle Shanahan, that first year 614 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: he struggled. You never know if Matt Ryan is going 615 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 2: to pick up the new offense, you know, as quick 616 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: as you you know, as and just kind of revert 617 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:42,040 Speaker 2: to his you know, crazy ceiling performances, especially now a 618 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: year older, especially without Julio Jones. So I think, yeah, 619 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: Matt Ryan still has some decent weapons with Ridley and 620 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: Kyle Piss, but I think there's a low floor here. 621 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 2: And again, he would have to play every game and 622 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: average more touchdowns and he's averaged with a better supporting 623 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 2: cast in three of the last four years. So I 624 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: think Ryan is being a little bit inflated here at 625 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 2: twenty nine and a half, I having a couple of 626 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: touchdowns well or so going under the twenty nine and 627 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 2: a half for Matt Ryan pass touchdowns. 628 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that call. And you know, even though 629 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: Julio left and he wasn't really a touchdown scorer at all. 630 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: You know, he didn't score ten plus touchdowns for about 631 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 1: a decade now, he's still allowed others to score touchdowns. 632 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: So I think without him there, you know, like calvi 633 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 1: Lely is going to see more double teams. It's gonna 634 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 1: hurt Matt Ryan. So yeah, I love the pick. Although 635 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: did you see, speaking of overacting the preseason, did you 636 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: see the one catch by Kyle Pitts. He looked pretty good. 637 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's gonna be good. My only issue is him. 638 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: People were just taken him at He's like ceiling like 639 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 2: that's right, Like I'm trying to draft him and I 640 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: get him sometimes, but so much lessing guys like Hockinson 641 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: because just at. 642 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 3: The end of a tear, so yeah, at the end 643 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 3: in the beginning. 644 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,479 Speaker 1: And our fifteen second timer draft last night, I got 645 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,239 Speaker 1: him as the tight end sex. I didn't really get 646 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: to think about it much, but it's nice when he 647 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: falls to you at the end of that tier. Usually 648 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: it's TJ. Hawkinson, but I think that he's he's good 649 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 1: enough to at least rank inside that top six. But yeah, 650 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: I think people you know, taking him tenan four, you know, 651 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: definitely take him closer a ceiling. 652 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'll be It would be a fun pick. So yeah, 653 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 3: I don't hate it. 654 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: But in terms of the media outcome, yeah, I think 655 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 2: I think he's more likely than not to be to 656 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 2: be fine, it's tough to beat his ADP by a lot, 657 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: even if he kind of hits value. 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You know 689 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: he is over his growing injury, it looks like, but 690 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: you know, head coach Dan Campbell has been saying he 691 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: doesn't think is conditionings up to snuff, so he might 692 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,279 Speaker 1: start the season in a fairly limited role. You know, 693 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: they brought in Jamal Williams, so I think they're comfortable 694 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: splitting the work, and honestly, this could end up being 695 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,879 Speaker 1: more of a fifty to fifty backfield regardless of when 696 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:12,640 Speaker 1: Swift is healthy. So you know, offensive corner Anthony Lynn 697 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,359 Speaker 1: has made some cryptic comments when it comes to things 698 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: like that. So I love the under here. And you know, 699 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 1: this Lions team should be mostly in trailing game scripts. 700 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: So I don't like Swift's rushing upside as much. You know, 701 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: for fancy, I still think he's a pretty good pick. 702 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: Is you know, a low end RB two if you 703 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: can get him and that range because of his receiving upside. 704 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: So when we get a prop like this where it's 705 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 1: just his rushing yards, I love that because I think 706 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: his floors a little bit lower when it comes to 707 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,839 Speaker 1: rushing yards because of Jamal Williams, Whereas you know, these 708 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,040 Speaker 1: trailing game scripts are going to favor his receiving usage. 709 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: So that's why I love attacking under nine hundred rushing yards. 710 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: I would set this lower and put it maybe around 711 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: eight to fifty. I just think when you have a 712 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,400 Speaker 1: player that's not even entering the season one hundred percent, 713 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,520 Speaker 1: you tend to downgrade them a little bit more than 714 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: you would other players. So that's why I love this under. 715 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have it at let's see, I know I 716 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 2: have it even lower than eight fifty. Yeah, I have 717 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 2: it about around seven to fifty. And the reason is 718 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 2: there's just so many red flags with Swift beyond just 719 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: the availability concerns. In Week one, Projecting him for an 720 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: increase in carries is exactly that. It's a projection. He 721 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 2: averaged eight point eight carries per game last year. And 722 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,359 Speaker 2: remember this is now not the regime that drafted him. 723 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: So even though a lot of people were high in 724 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: DeAndre Swift and he's a young guy entering year two, 725 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 2: second round pick thirty fifth overall last season, that was 726 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: a Matt Patricia pick. 727 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 3: That wasn't a Dan Campbell pick. 728 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: And there's just been a lot of, like you said, 729 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: cryptic comments and nothing really too positive coming out of 730 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 2: Lions camp about DeAndre Swift. 731 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 3: So the writing's on the wall. 732 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 2: And he would almost have to He had five hundred 733 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 2: and twenty one yards in thirteen games last year year, 734 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,120 Speaker 2: so you would have to have a pretty big uptick 735 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 2: and stay pretty healthy to get to that number. So 736 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to come close to a 737 00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 2: thousand yards this year. You know, I could be wrong. 738 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,600 Speaker 2: He's a talented guy. Detroit's line is not half bad 739 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: at all, but just a lot of things would have 740 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: to go right, a lot more out for the under 741 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: lower floor. 742 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 3: So I like that one. 743 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 2: I'm going with my first one for running backs, Miles 744 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 2: Sanders going under seven and a half rushing touchdowns. And 745 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 2: this is a kind of a similar situation to Lamar Jackson, 746 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 2: where you look at Sanders and he had six scores 747 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: last year, but one was from eighty two yards out 748 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,880 Speaker 2: and another was from seventy four yards out. 749 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: You cannot bank on runs. 750 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,839 Speaker 2: You can't even bank on a guy getting that long 751 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 2: of a run period, much less that long of a 752 00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 2: touchdown run any given season, So I think that there's 753 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,800 Speaker 2: gonna be some regression there. We don't know exactly what Sanders' 754 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 2: role is going to be because this is another team 755 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,279 Speaker 2: with a new regime. I keep hearing that they're going 756 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: to keep Jordan Howard around for short yardage, which would 757 00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 2: directly impact Miles Sanders touchdown upside. But for his career, 758 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: if you just want to go back and kind of 759 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 2: spl split the difference and just look, say, okay, what 760 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: has he done in his career. He has nine rushing 761 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,480 Speaker 2: scores on three hundred and forty three carries. That is 762 00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 2: a rate of two point six percent. So he would 763 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: need three hundred and seven carries to get to eight 764 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 2: touchdowns given his career rate. So you do have some 765 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 2: wiggle room because I doubt Miles Sanders gets anywhere close 766 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 2: to three hundred carries. I think somewhere in the low 767 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 2: two hundreds is where he's gonna end up, you know, 768 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: even in the even if. 769 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,080 Speaker 3: He plays close to the full season. 770 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 2: So I think you have some nice wiggle room here 771 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,640 Speaker 2: with Miles Sanders and his touchdowns in. 772 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 3: This Eagle offense. 773 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: We still don't know how they're gonna utilize Jalen Hurts 774 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: down in the red zone. So last year Hurts I 775 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,080 Speaker 2: think he only had one carry inside the inside the 776 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,240 Speaker 2: ten yard line, So you know, we don't know exactly 777 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: what his role is going to be. 778 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 3: There's just a lot of. 779 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 2: MS certainty and a guy that really hasn't been a 780 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: touchdown score in his career on an offense that may 781 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 2: not be a very high scoring offense. 782 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 3: So I like the under seven and a half. 783 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, Colin. Like you said, like he's 784 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna have a lot of competition for the short yardage 785 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns. Jalen Hurts number one. You know, Jordan Howard, 786 00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: if he stays on the team, I think he will 787 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 1: be the goal line back, and even Boston Scott for 788 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: being a tiny back, he's actually been pretty effective in 789 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 1: goal line situations. He's scored a touchdown on four carries 790 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,359 Speaker 1: four times on five carries inside the five, which is 791 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,880 Speaker 1: bizarre because's such a tiny back. But they have a 792 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,200 Speaker 1: bunch of different options that could use. So it's the 793 00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:55,879 Speaker 1: competition that makes my projection for Sanders pretty low. I've 794 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: at six point eight right now, but like you said, 795 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: there's a lot more reasons to you know, favor the under. 796 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot more outs, so yeah, I love the 797 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: under seven and a half. 798 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 2: Yep, Miles Sanders just kind of he's in a weird 799 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 2: purgatory for me in drafts too, right, Like, have you 800 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: been getting a lot of Sanders in fantasy? 801 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: No? But I mean he is going late enough where 802 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, if you get him at the end of 803 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: the RB two tier, he's not horrible, but you know 804 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: he is going to have to compete with We already said, 805 00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, Hurts and Howard for goal line scores. Gainwell 806 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: looks really good as a pass catching back, so we 807 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,799 Speaker 1: already know that Sanders is going to be limited in 808 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,960 Speaker 1: that role. But you know, if Gainwell and Scott like, uh, 809 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,400 Speaker 1: it's it's always been tough for me to trust Eagles 810 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,520 Speaker 1: running backs and it hasn't gotten better. But at least 811 00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: his ADP is low enough where I think this time 812 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: last year, wasn't he like a low end RB one 813 00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: with you know, similar concerns, I guess, but he's if 814 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: he goes cheap enough, I would I would grab him. 815 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: But you're just not expecting him to, you know, go 816 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 1: off this year. Yeah, exactly. It's he he's kind of yeah, purgatory. 817 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,520 Speaker 1: Like I said, I have him with RB twenty four. 818 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: I like the under on his rushing yards profit Prize 819 00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: pick as well. They have it at one thousand, So 820 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: I have him at nine to twenty five. And that's 821 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: with averaging thirteen carries per game and four point six 822 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: yards per carry, which is still pretty good. And I 823 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: still have him coming up about seventy five yards short 824 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:24,400 Speaker 1: of that. 825 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 3: So about again about a game game a little over 826 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,880 Speaker 3: a game short. 827 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 2: So like the under on his seven and a half touchdowns, 828 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 2: like the under on his one thousand rushing yards. Miles Sanders, 829 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 2: where are you going next, Sean? For running backs? 830 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: I'm going under one thousand rushing yards for James Robinson. 831 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 3: Boo. We love James Robinson here. I know too, I 832 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 3: do too. 833 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: You know, this line has settled one thousand after the 834 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: post Travis ATM season ending injury adjustment, and I think 835 00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: it's a little bit too high, but I'm pretty close, 836 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,960 Speaker 1: to be honest. You know, he came out of nowhere 837 00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: last year as an undrafted rookie. Only Dominic Rhodes rushed 838 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: for more rushing yards than him as an undrafted rookie, 839 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and one. So that's that's a 840 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: little bit of history for you. But you know, this 841 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: is a new coaching staff. You already mentioned that when 842 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,520 Speaker 1: it came to Deandrew Swifth. This coaching staff, well, nobody 843 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 1: drafted James Robinson, but they drafted They did draft Trevs 844 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,399 Speaker 1: Travis ATN in the first round, so that must tell 845 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: you something. But you know, when you look at last 846 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:37,400 Speaker 1: year's game logs, the Jaggers literally had nobody to compete 847 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,960 Speaker 1: with Robinson. They had rych Cole Armstead wasn't able to 848 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: suit up at all last year unfortunately due to COVID, 849 00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,880 Speaker 1: So they had Chris Thompson steal a couple of carries 850 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: every other game from James Robinson. That was about it. 851 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,560 Speaker 1: And he's still you know, he he had a great season. 852 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: He rushed for one thousand and seventy yards. But now 853 00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: he does have Carlos Hide there who's absolutely going to 854 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,040 Speaker 1: take away, you know, a handful of carries a game. 855 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: So I just think there's a lower floor for Robinson 856 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,200 Speaker 1: and if anything, you know, heide's going to eat into 857 00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: his rushing work. James Robinson should still be very active 858 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:14,839 Speaker 1: as a pass catcher, so I think they'll use them 859 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: exclusively there and you know, be a workhorse back. But 860 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,840 Speaker 1: I still think Carlos Hyde is sort of enough of 861 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,000 Speaker 1: a threat where you know, I would put this closer 862 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: like nine to fifty yards. This is another prop where 863 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 1: I think there's more outs for the under to hit, 864 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: just because there's uncertainty, even though I know we love 865 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: James Robinson, but still, you know, he's an undrafted rookie 866 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: with a new coaching regime. You know, I think he's 867 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: going to have to have a really good season to 868 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:42,080 Speaker 1: pass this. 869 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have it. 870 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 2: I have it pretty much on the lineup prize pick. 871 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,320 Speaker 2: I am at nine eighty six, there at a thousand, 872 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 2: so I don't see as much value in it. 873 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 3: I kind of worry about Carlos Hot. 874 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 2: I mean, Carlos Hod's thirty one, so I don't know 875 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 2: just how much how effect that he's going to be 876 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: at taking carries away from Robinson over a full season. 877 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: I mean, Robinson was one of the best players on 878 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 2: an offense in the NFL last year, So I wouldn't 879 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 2: like I think there's some there's like a wide range 880 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,359 Speaker 2: of outcomes, and I would always bet unders on running backs, 881 00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 2: so I would have Again, I have a fifteen yards short, 882 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: so if I had to choose, I would go under. 883 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 2: But Robinson is a guy that I would be interested 884 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: in some you know, long shots, seeing what's out there, 885 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: you know, for some upside like his ceiling right, you know, yeah, 886 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,439 Speaker 2: can you eat the league and rushing yard something like that. 887 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: You know that That's that's how I would kind of 888 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: attack it because I do think we might be underestimating him. 889 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: Again, right, No, I don't underestimate him. But if you look, 890 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 1: I think he had ten or eleven games where he 891 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 1: had one hundred percent of the game he did like, 892 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 1: how did you ever see that? It's so rare. But 893 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: that that's more of how the Jagger's running back situation 894 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: was last year. It was such a mess that I 895 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: just think. I'm not saying Carlos height is good or 896 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: anything like that. Just he's going to have some competition, 897 00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,040 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Again, I do like him for 898 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,160 Speaker 1: fancy because he still will dominate the receiving usage. I 899 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,879 Speaker 1: don't think Carlos Head's gonna factor into that as much. 900 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: So I still love him for fancy. I just think 901 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 1: is rushing yards is what I'm trying to attack here. Yeah, 902 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: where do you have him for a half PPR? Now, Robinson, 903 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 1: I think RB thirteen, you know, high high end RB two. Yeah, 904 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: I have n't at sixteen. So like right after that 905 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: Edwards d waer, I have him ranked higher than you 906 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: see who's doubting James? Yeah, I mean, but yeah, it's 907 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,760 Speaker 1: not the same area. You know, there's Harris and James. 908 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,319 Speaker 1: Robinson is a coin flip for me, like right in 909 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:42,280 Speaker 1: that range. 910 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I still go nausey, but it's yeah, I 911 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 2: can't really argue with it. I just think, like you said, 912 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: the Robinson last year just had that huge workload, and 913 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,560 Speaker 2: I think Nag actually might have a better chance at 914 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,399 Speaker 2: getting that close to one hundred percent usage this year 915 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: because Benny Snell, I mean, he might not make the team. 916 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 2: McFarland's probably going to be the number two bolage is there. 917 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:11,000 Speaker 2: But I mean it's they drafted Harris to be at workhorse, 918 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: so you can't, in my opinion, you can't really go 919 00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 2: wrong with either of them. You do have to pay 920 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 2: a higher premium for Harris, so I do see the 921 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 2: point of waiting and getting Robinson a little bit later, 922 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 2: all right, let's go to my second running back prop, 923 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:30,959 Speaker 2: and I'm going Saquon under one thousand and seventy five 924 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 2: rushing yards at prize picks. 925 00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 3: And for me, when. 926 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:39,239 Speaker 2: We've talked about this ad nauseum, there's issues for me 927 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 2: with Saquon not just in the availability, but even if 928 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 2: he's out there also the efficiency because this offensive line 929 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,160 Speaker 2: ranked deadwast by Pro Football Focus entering the season. They 930 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,440 Speaker 2: dealt with some guys retiring. No one you know, if 931 00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 2: you pay attention to the camp reports, no one's really improved. 932 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,600 Speaker 2: They're taking a big step forward, none of the young guys. 933 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 2: So I worry about this offensive line and that we 934 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,480 Speaker 2: might get, you know, some of those games that like 935 00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 2: only Sakon Barkley can has really giving you over the 936 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,879 Speaker 2: past couple years, like thirteen for one or eight for ten. 937 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 2: I mean that's not a knock on him, it's just 938 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,239 Speaker 2: the old line sometimes for the Giants just you know, 939 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 2: it can come and go. You know, they did well 940 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 2: at some points last year. Wayne Goldman was a decent 941 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,600 Speaker 2: had some decent value. But you know, you combine the 942 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 2: health risks with the low floor efficiency wise, and I 943 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 2: think Barkley is gonna he probably can't miss more than 944 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 2: than one or two games to hit this number, and 945 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,960 Speaker 2: he has to be pretty efficient, like you know, for 946 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,520 Speaker 2: six four seven yards per carry, I have him at 947 00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:51,160 Speaker 2: four to three. You know, yards per carries is one 948 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 2: of those stats that regresses a lot. It's hard, you know, 949 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,000 Speaker 2: even if you have a guy with a high yards 950 00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 2: per carry, that doesn't mean it's gonna be that going forward. 951 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 2: So I think think there are a lot of outs 952 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 2: for Saquon to go under one thousan seventy five yards. 953 00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 3: Haveing about one hundred short this year. 954 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,360 Speaker 1: Love it. I was able to get this on Prize 955 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 1: Picks when it was twelve hundred, just like a week ago. 956 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,160 Speaker 1: So I think the market's catching up. Like we've been 957 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,880 Speaker 1: banging the drum that you know, he's not going to 958 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,279 Speaker 1: enter the season hundred percent. He's been pretty inefficient even 959 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,000 Speaker 1: when he has been healthy. Again, all the blame can 960 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,960 Speaker 1: be put on the offensive lying Jason Garrett, whatever wherever 961 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 1: you want to put the blame, but he has a 962 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,359 Speaker 1: lot of things going against him. That's why I agree 963 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,400 Speaker 1: with you completely. And I'm going to piggyback this and 964 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 1: say I also love the under nine and a half 965 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns for a lot of the same reasons. But 966 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,879 Speaker 1: you know he's going to have to rely on these 967 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,919 Speaker 1: long touchdown runs, which aren't really sticky. If there's any 968 00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: running back that can, you know, score a bunch of 969 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,560 Speaker 1: long touchdowns, it's Saquon Barkley. But again, I do like 970 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:58,520 Speaker 1: banking against that. And you know this, this Giants offense 971 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,080 Speaker 1: isn't really capable of fighting him with a ton of 972 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 1: goal line work. And actually, if you look at his career, 973 00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,880 Speaker 1: he hasn't been a good goal line back, which kind 974 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,480 Speaker 1: of makes sense because he's sort of a home run hitter. 975 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,960 Speaker 1: He's kind of a high ceiling, low floor kind of runner, 976 00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: so around the goal line he struggled. He's He's scored 977 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,480 Speaker 1: seven touchdowns on twenty seven rush attempts inside the five. 978 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,560 Speaker 1: That's a twenty six percent rate. Now, granted, you expect 979 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:23,760 Speaker 1: running backs to address closer to the forty two percent average, 980 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:27,319 Speaker 1: and Saquon Barkley is an above run average running back, 981 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: but still, his running style isn't really conducive to, you know, 982 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: goal line situations. So that's why I think taking the 983 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,560 Speaker 1: under for his rushing touchdowns is also a good bet, 984 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,040 Speaker 1: because again, you're banking on him, you know, scoring a 985 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:42,160 Speaker 1: ton of long touchdowns to hit the over. So that's 986 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:43,160 Speaker 1: why all I go in against this. 987 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 2: Giants averaged seventeen and a half points per game last year, 988 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,000 Speaker 2: second to last in the league, so there just might 989 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,160 Speaker 2: not be that many touchdowns to go around. I think 990 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 2: they'll be improved with Barkley back in the lineup and 991 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:59,240 Speaker 2: some of the you know, assuming Gallady can get healthy, 992 00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 2: should be improved. But the old line is still going 993 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,280 Speaker 2: to be an issue. Daniel Jones hasn't really proven himself 994 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 2: as a consistent guy that's going to be able to 995 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 2: score you you know, twenty four twenty seven points weekend 996 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 2: week out, So you know, even if Barkley is healthy, 997 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,919 Speaker 2: you could have a situation where he falls short. 998 00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 3: Of this number. So I like it. 999 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,680 Speaker 2: I have it. I have it closer to seven so 1000 00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:25,120 Speaker 2: on two hundred and thirty one carries, So it's not 1001 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,840 Speaker 2: like I don't I'm not giving them carries. 1002 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 3: But yeah, I. 1003 00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: Think I think these the touchdown numbers. It's easy to 1004 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,759 Speaker 2: kind of get caught up in the name, but at 1005 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 2: the end of the day, and again, there was a 1006 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 2: record high in terms of rushing touchdowns last year, so 1007 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,200 Speaker 2: if that regresses closer to the mean. 1008 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,399 Speaker 3: You also could see a drop. 1009 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,200 Speaker 2: I mean, there was one point oh rushing touchdowns per 1010 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 2: game last year. That's the first time that happened since 1011 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:55,359 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty. 1012 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 3: Five, you know what I mean. 1013 00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 2: Like, that's that we'll keep up, maybe but maybe not. 1014 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,680 Speaker 2: And then I feel like that's kind of factored into 1015 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,640 Speaker 2: this projection at nine and a half, that's that's high 1016 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,920 Speaker 2: for me, Like, that's that's very high. 1017 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,360 Speaker 3: So I like that under as well. So Faden Saquon. 1018 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 2: We're still fading Saquon on this pod, as we've been 1019 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:25,400 Speaker 2: doing all offseason long on the Fantasy Flex. All right, 1020 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,520 Speaker 2: So my next one is going to be another very 1021 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,120 Speaker 2: good running back that I think the number is just 1022 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 2: so high that it gives you some outs, and that's 1023 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb. Under one three hundred and fifty rushing yards. 1024 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,680 Speaker 2: That is just a huge number to hit. And if 1025 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 2: anything happens, like for example, last year Chubb missed four games, 1026 00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:50,800 Speaker 2: you're not going to hit that total. Because again, yards 1027 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,560 Speaker 2: per carry, it takes almost two thousand carries for career 1028 00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,839 Speaker 2: yards per carry to stableiz. Nick Chubb is at six 1029 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,560 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty for his career and he's averaging five 1030 00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,920 Speaker 2: point two yards per attempt, So that is very very good, 1031 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,759 Speaker 2: but we can't expect him to necessarily even and I 1032 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 2: know they have a great offensive line, probably the best 1033 00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 2: in the league, but still that's how unpredictable yards per 1034 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,640 Speaker 2: carry is. There's a lot of variants there, so I 1035 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,040 Speaker 2: point two is not what I haven't projected for. I 1036 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:24,319 Speaker 2: have him closer to four point seven four point eight, 1037 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 2: which is still I think the highest for any running 1038 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,760 Speaker 2: back in my model. 1039 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 3: So it still loves Nick Chubb. 1040 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,800 Speaker 2: But for him to do that, he's gonna he's gonna 1041 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 2: have to pretty much not miss a game and continue 1042 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,840 Speaker 2: his crazy efficiency numbers. I just think there's a lot 1043 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,759 Speaker 2: of outs, and you still have Kareem Hunt here, so 1044 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 2: you never know what could happen in any give me 1045 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,640 Speaker 2: a game. Maybe the Browns are, you know, winning a 1046 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 2: little bit, and they end up using Hunt a little 1047 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 2: more to spell Chubb because they want to keep him 1048 00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,280 Speaker 2: healthy for the playoffs. 1049 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:56,640 Speaker 3: He's out. 1050 00:52:56,719 --> 00:52:59,640 Speaker 2: He averaged fifteen point eight carries per game last year, 1051 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,320 Speaker 2: so that I mean for one thousand, three hundred and 1052 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 2: fifty yards, you're gonna need that five you know, mid 1053 00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,439 Speaker 2: five efficiency, and I just don't think you can bank 1054 00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 2: on that and at the same time bank on him 1055 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 2: to do that and stay healthy for a full season. 1056 00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,040 Speaker 2: So going under the one thousand and three fifty four 1057 00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:16,880 Speaker 2: Nick Chubb. 1058 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously your analysis is sharp there, but I 1059 00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:22,759 Speaker 1: can't go against my boy. I just can't do it, 1060 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,919 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to rushing yards. So I'm gonna 1061 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 1: stay away from this one. But again, really sound analysis, 1062 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,920 Speaker 1: but I do have him still projected to rush for 1063 00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:37,040 Speaker 1: over like five point three yards per carric yeah, five 1064 00:53:37,080 --> 00:53:39,000 Speaker 1: point two yards per carry. I mean, if you just 1065 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,640 Speaker 1: look at next Gen stats, you know they track expected 1066 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: yards per carry, factory and all the different you know, 1067 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: like things where the linemen are, where the defenders are, 1068 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,480 Speaker 1: and he's number one almost every season, so I think 1069 00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: you will keep it up and the offensive line might 1070 00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: be even better this year. There's just a lot of 1071 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,720 Speaker 1: reasons to like Nick Chubb. You brought up a good point, 1072 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:02,440 Speaker 1: like he's he's missed time and Cream Hunt obviously is 1073 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,000 Speaker 1: a threat. So there's some outs for the under. I 1074 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: just can't bring myself to do it personally, I get it. 1075 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,040 Speaker 2: I feel like this is not going to be a 1076 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 2: popular one even among the listeners because again, you see 1077 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,439 Speaker 2: some of these big names and you know, good back, 1078 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 2: good old line. You're like, all right, I'm not betting 1079 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,360 Speaker 2: the under, but a lot of times these are the 1080 00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,239 Speaker 2: ones with the most value because so much has to 1081 00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,920 Speaker 2: go right for a guy to get over one three 1082 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,239 Speaker 2: hundred and fifty rushing yards, to the point where if 1083 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,799 Speaker 2: you like him to do that again, I think there 1084 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,080 Speaker 2: are other ways to kind of attack you know, Nick 1085 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 2: Chubb this season than just going over. 1086 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm going under, all right. Next up, I'm 1087 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 1: taking running back. I love, but AJ Dillon under six 1088 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety rushing yards. This is one of those 1089 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,399 Speaker 1: things where I haven't projected pretty close to this, but 1090 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,719 Speaker 1: he has a wide range of outcomes. I mean, are 1091 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:55,839 Speaker 1: there scenarios where Aaron Jones misses ten plus games and 1092 00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 1: or AJ Dillon breaks out for a thousand yard rushing season. 1093 00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,799 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm kind of banking on that in some 1094 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 1: of my leagues that you know, Dylan will hit his 1095 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,920 Speaker 1: ceiling this year. I think he's crazy talented. But you know, 1096 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,320 Speaker 1: the most likely situation is Aaron Jones plays in fifteen 1097 00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:18,160 Speaker 1: or sixteen games and AJ Dillon finishes under rushing for 1098 00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: around six hundred yards I think so in order to 1099 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,840 Speaker 1: go over this, I think he's gonna have to average 1100 00:55:23,320 --> 00:55:25,960 Speaker 1: over ten carries a game, and I just don't know 1101 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: if we could project that quite yet. And I know 1102 00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: that they want to get him involved in the passing game. 1103 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: You know, they did lose Jamal Williams and they want 1104 00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: Dylan to get more involved in the passing game. So 1105 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to be just you know, 1106 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 1: the change of pace back on the ground. I think 1107 00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:41,399 Speaker 1: they will get him involved in that. But I think 1108 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: this is Aaron Jones backfield still. I think he's going 1109 00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: to dominate the touches. He could, you know, have a 1110 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,759 Speaker 1: career year. So I think that that that's going to 1111 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,880 Speaker 1: limit AJ Dillon. Six hundred nineties pretty high for a backup. Again, 1112 00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:55,040 Speaker 1: he does have a high ceiling because if Aaron Jones 1113 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: misses time, he's going over this number. But I think 1114 00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:00,879 Speaker 1: we can bet against Aaron Jones missing you know, more 1115 00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 1: than three games. That's why I think the median is 1116 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,800 Speaker 1: lower than this. I think it'd be around six hundred. 1117 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,360 Speaker 2: So that's why I do like this under yeah, I 1118 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,239 Speaker 2: have him at six twelve and on one hundred and 1119 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 2: thirty nine carries. 1120 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:13,960 Speaker 3: So I'm right with you. 1121 00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm about what sixty yards under, you're about seventy. Oh no, 1122 00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:21,160 Speaker 2: you're about I'm about seventy five yards under, you're about 1123 00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 2: eighty five. So yeah, it's uh, you know, the median 1124 00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,680 Speaker 2: outcome is short of this number, and that's what you're 1125 00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 2: looking for when you make your prize pick entries or 1126 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 2: you know, enter your props. So yeah, I like the dealing. 1127 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:40,360 Speaker 2: Under think he has huge upside, but you can attack 1128 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:43,360 Speaker 2: that in different ways because you can draft him in fantasy. 1129 00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:47,520 Speaker 2: You can especially in like you know, Bestball Format zero 1130 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:51,200 Speaker 2: RB or Hero RB like strategies like there's a lot 1131 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 2: of ways to attack ad Dellon's upside. But median outcome 1132 00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:59,640 Speaker 2: still think six hundred ninety yards is too high. So 1133 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 2: I agree my last one, I'm going for running backs. 1134 00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:05,080 Speaker 2: For my last one for running backs, I am going 1135 00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 2: Daryl Henderson under eight hundred and fifty rushing yards. He 1136 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,640 Speaker 2: would need to average over fifty yards a game if 1137 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:16,720 Speaker 2: he played all seventeen games to hit that number. He's 1138 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,000 Speaker 2: never averaged more than forty two in a season. And 1139 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:22,800 Speaker 2: with the Sony Michelle acquisition, there's a lot of uncertainty here. 1140 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,760 Speaker 2: And also again that you know, he would need to 1141 00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,760 Speaker 2: average over fifty in a you know, playing every game. 1142 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:31,560 Speaker 2: If he misses the one to two games that running 1143 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,320 Speaker 2: backs normally miss, that's going to go up. And we 1144 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,120 Speaker 2: just don't know exactly how many carries Henderson's going to 1145 00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 2: get on a weekly basis. And uh, you know, I 1146 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:45,400 Speaker 2: always like betting against guys setting career highs. That's one 1147 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,000 Speaker 2: of the ways that I kind of attack these markets, 1148 00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,320 Speaker 2: especially went in doubt or you know, I just like, okay, 1149 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 2: is this Am I going to bet on a guy 1150 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 2: to go over something to hit his career higher? Am 1151 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,840 Speaker 2: I just going to bet on the under? And have 1152 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 2: all these different outs? And I think the Rams could 1153 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,720 Speaker 2: be a little more pass happy because you have Matthew 1154 00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,720 Speaker 2: Stafford in a loaded receiving corps this year, So just 1155 00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:08,720 Speaker 2: a lot of different ways, and Henderson made you know, 1156 00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,600 Speaker 2: he's probably going to be more of the receiving back 1157 00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,919 Speaker 2: now because Michelle hasn't really played that role. 1158 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:14,880 Speaker 3: So there's a non. 1159 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,360 Speaker 2: Zero chance that both of those guys could stay healthy 1160 00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:20,240 Speaker 2: and Michelle could even end up with more carries. Maybe 1161 00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 2: not a ton more, but he could a you know, 1162 00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,400 Speaker 2: it could be kind of split with Henderson getting the 1163 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 2: bulkal the receiving usage. So just a lot of ways 1164 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,400 Speaker 2: I think to go under this number, not even accounting for, 1165 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:35,320 Speaker 2: you know, the workload, because Henderson he's never really been 1166 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 2: a high workload guy in college or in the in 1167 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: the pro. So under eight hundred and fifty rushing yards 1168 00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 2: for Darryl Henderson of the Rams. 1169 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love this one as well. And you know, 1170 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:51,440 Speaker 1: I agree with you when it comes to against guys 1171 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,560 Speaker 1: setting career highs, but it does make it tougher knowing 1172 00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:55,800 Speaker 1: there's an extra game this year. 1173 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,160 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, after that end. 1174 00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: But I think that the Sony Michelle edition definitely adds uncertainty. 1175 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,920 Speaker 1: It lowers Henderson's floor end ceiling quite a bit, especially 1176 00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,600 Speaker 1: in the running game. Like you said, like Michelle's gonna 1177 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: eat into his you know, his carries, not his reception. 1178 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: So that's why I love the under eight fifty as well. 1179 00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,000 Speaker 2: All right, so that those are our running back props, 1180 00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:22,400 Speaker 2: Let's move on to the receiver wide receivers and tight ends. 1181 00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 2: Who got first for wide out tight ends jump? 1182 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 1: So this is the only one that isn't fun in 1183 00:59:28,680 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 1: my opinion, because I do want him to have a 1184 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:35,000 Speaker 1: good rookie season. But that's under on Jamar Chase one 1185 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:37,160 Speaker 1: twenty five or Sydney Yards. 1186 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 3: I had to do it. 1187 00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,280 Speaker 1: But you know, there have been forty wide receivers drafted 1188 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,919 Speaker 1: in the first round over the past decade, and only 1189 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: five of them have gone over this number. Granted we 1190 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: play an extra game this year. I know that, but 1191 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, and Chase is obviously considered a top prospect, 1192 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: there's no denying that. But you know, he did sit 1193 00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,959 Speaker 1: out last season, and he has been rusty in camp. 1194 01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: So it is Joe Burrow. Joe Brow has been rusty. 1195 01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:04,160 Speaker 1: They haven't been able to get on the same page. 1196 01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase has dropped four straight passes in the preseason. Again, 1197 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not overacting the preseason, but I would love to 1198 01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:14,800 Speaker 1: see him, you know, giving more confidence going in a 1199 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,320 Speaker 1: week one. So I think he could get off to 1200 01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: slow start, but you know, he he does have competition too, 1201 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,600 Speaker 1: T Higgins, I know you love T Higgins. Yep, he's 1202 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,440 Speaker 1: going to have a year two breakout. They have Tyler Boyd, 1203 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,120 Speaker 1: c j Uzoma. Apparently the coach wants to get him over. 1204 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,080 Speaker 3: Fifty or so. You just stopped after Boyd. 1205 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I don't think any of those tight ends 1206 01:00:35,080 --> 01:00:38,120 Speaker 1: are in a factor until That's what I thought the 1207 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: coach is saying that. But I think he has so 1208 01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:43,720 Speaker 1: much competition. He's not your typical first round pick that 1209 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,160 Speaker 1: goes a situation where there's nobody there. That's what I'm 1210 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,000 Speaker 1: getting a he does have competition, so he's going to 1211 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,320 Speaker 1: need a lot to go right to go over this. 1212 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,240 Speaker 1: And again we talked about outs. I mean, if Joe 1213 01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:57,000 Speaker 1: Burrow were to miss any time, he's going to go 1214 01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,440 Speaker 1: under this as well, because Brandon Allen can't support Higgins, 1215 01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,040 Speaker 1: Tyler Boyd and Jabar Chase at the same time. So 1216 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot of different angles here. Again, I think 1217 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:07,760 Speaker 1: Chase by the end of the season, I think he's 1218 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,400 Speaker 1: going to be that wide receiver to talent that we 1219 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,720 Speaker 1: know like he's going to finish strung. But I think 1220 01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: the slow start that I'm expecting, I think is going 1221 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,680 Speaker 1: to help us stay under this pace. So I do 1222 01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,280 Speaker 1: like the under ony twenty five receiving yards. 1223 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and again I like what you said about just 1224 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 2: looking back at first round picks and the median outcome 1225 01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:32,200 Speaker 2: because it's very instructive because you're comparing them directly to guys, 1226 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:35,240 Speaker 2: you know, with a similar draft pedigree, with similar talent, 1227 01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 2: and you know, not all these guys smash in year one. 1228 01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,800 Speaker 2: We remember the guys that do. We remember the Justin Jeffersons, 1229 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:44,360 Speaker 2: We remember the Odell Beckhams. 1230 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:45,840 Speaker 3: We remember those guys. 1231 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 2: But there are a lot of guys that have decent 1232 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:52,840 Speaker 2: to good seasons and they'll fall short of these big 1233 01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 2: numbers that are out there for some of these rookies. 1234 01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 2: You know, I think in general, rookie numbers have been 1235 01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:01,600 Speaker 2: a little inflated across the board here, So I like 1236 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,840 Speaker 2: that under as well. I'm going with Denzel Mims under 1237 01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 2: five hundred and fifty receiving yards. Look, he's behind Corey Davis, 1238 01:02:12,040 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Elijah Moore, Jamison Crowder is going to play in the slot. 1239 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:19,760 Speaker 2: Kew and Cole can play any receiver position. Mims is 1240 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,400 Speaker 2: behind four guys at least on the depth chart. This 1241 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 2: is a guy who was not drafted by this regime. 1242 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:30,520 Speaker 2: He was drafted by Adam Gase. So will he average 1243 01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:33,960 Speaker 2: forty receiving yards a game this year like he did 1244 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 2: last year in nine games? I doubt it because he 1245 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,560 Speaker 2: started eight games last year, So this year, I don't 1246 01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,960 Speaker 2: know if he starts at all, just given the New 1247 01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:47,800 Speaker 2: York Jets depth chart, because even he has to separate 1248 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:50,600 Speaker 2: from Keywan Cole just to become the fourth receiver, and 1249 01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 2: he was running with the third team, third string team 1250 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 2: at one point in camp. Now, I think that had 1251 01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:58,000 Speaker 2: to do with he was going through some weight loss issues. 1252 01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:58,760 Speaker 3: I believe it was. 1253 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:01,560 Speaker 2: So I don't think that was like, I think he's 1254 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,360 Speaker 2: more talented than that. But this Jets receiving corps is 1255 01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 2: crowded and there are just a lot of guys ahead 1256 01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 2: of him for targets and five hundred and fifty yards. 1257 01:03:11,640 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 2: You know, that's that's not anything to sneeze that. You're 1258 01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,480 Speaker 2: still gonna have to play as more than the you know, 1259 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:20,760 Speaker 2: the fourth fifth receiver usually to get that many to 1260 01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,640 Speaker 2: get that many receiving yards. So I think Mems comes 1261 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,920 Speaker 2: up short of this, and you know he's he had 1262 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,560 Speaker 2: you know, he played in nine games last year. He 1263 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:32,480 Speaker 2: had some injury, some issues earlier in camp, so he 1264 01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:33,960 Speaker 2: also may not stay healthy. 1265 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,200 Speaker 3: We don't know he'll do that either. So like the 1266 01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,120 Speaker 3: under Mims five hundred. 1267 01:03:37,840 --> 01:03:40,440 Speaker 1: And fifty, Yeah, I hate that this is such a 1268 01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,880 Speaker 1: sharp play because I think, you know, Mems he's so talented, 1269 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,560 Speaker 1: but this is a regime that took him. So I 1270 01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 1: mean not to root against your prop here, but imagine 1271 01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:51,760 Speaker 1: if he were to get traded to like the Chiefs 1272 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 1: or the Saints or something, some other team that will 1273 01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 1: start him. You know, I'd love to see that because 1274 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 1: he I think he is really talented. I think he 1275 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:01,600 Speaker 1: could be a good starting receiver, but I don't think 1276 01:04:01,600 --> 01:04:03,840 Speaker 1: it's happening this year. Like you said, he's sort of 1277 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,480 Speaker 1: a second third teamer unfortunately. So yeah, under five hundred 1278 01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:09,200 Speaker 1: and fifty yards, a lot of things are gonna have 1279 01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,200 Speaker 1: to go his way to go over this. 1280 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:15,320 Speaker 3: Who got up next? So I'm taking. 1281 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:18,880 Speaker 1: Darnell Mooney over seven hundred and five receiving yards. I 1282 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: think we're going to see a year two breakout for him. 1283 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: You know, he managed to put up six hundred and 1284 01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 1: thirty one yards last year despite poor quarterback play, and 1285 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,960 Speaker 1: he's very capable of being a deep threat, and that 1286 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 1: that really wasn't unlocked last year at all. He had 1287 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:40,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven targets of over twenty air yards last year, 1288 01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:44,080 Speaker 1: which ranked tenth in the league, and only six of 1289 01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: those targets were catchable. So if you look at all 1290 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the receivers that had ten or more targets of over 1291 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty yards, he had the second worst catchable ball rate, 1292 01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:56,120 Speaker 1: so I think it's needless to say. If he has 1293 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,280 Speaker 1: improved quarterback play, which I think they will have with 1294 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,840 Speaker 1: justin fields this year, I think they're going to unlock 1295 01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,800 Speaker 1: that deep potential that he does have. So it doesn't 1296 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,600 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to do much to exceed last year's numbers, 1297 01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,000 Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna crush those. I haven't projected 1298 01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,480 Speaker 1: over eight hundred yards. So I love this over here, 1299 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,520 Speaker 1: especially after you know the trade away Anthony Miller. The 1300 01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: number three receiver is sort of up in the air 1301 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:22,800 Speaker 1: between Marquise Goodwin or Demir Bird Like, there's not much 1302 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:27,760 Speaker 1: competition aside from Alan Robinson, and honestly, Alan Robinson's going 1303 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 1: to draw double teams. I think it's just going to 1304 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,360 Speaker 1: unlock Mooney even more so. I love betting on Mooney 1305 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,400 Speaker 1: having year two breakout this year. That's why I love 1306 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,920 Speaker 1: the over seven hundred and five receiving yards. 1307 01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have him at sixty six for seven sixty two, 1308 01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 2: so I'm about sixty yards over as well. 1309 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:45,720 Speaker 3: I do like Mooney. 1310 01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:49,600 Speaker 2: He was constantly breaking open last year deep and they 1311 01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 2: couldn't really find him. He'll do something close to the 1312 01:05:52,520 --> 01:05:55,760 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage as well. They'll need him to. But yeah, 1313 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 2: he definitely has upside with that deep ball. And you 1314 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,840 Speaker 2: talked about the number three receiver. You know it's a 1315 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 2: dark horse for that role, Rodney Adams. Rodney Adams has 1316 01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 2: been killing in the preseason. Uh. I mean you talk 1317 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:13,520 Speaker 2: like Marky's Goodwin, demere Bird. Those guys aren't exactly you know, entrenched. 1318 01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,440 Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be surprised to see Adams be got 1319 01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:16,960 Speaker 2: number three. 1320 01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 1: They're probably just going to row a lot more too. 1321 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Tight end sets right with Comet and. 1322 01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 2: Graham, I mean we think, but who knows, man, I mean, 1323 01:06:26,560 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 2: is that really what like, I don't know if that's 1324 01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:33,760 Speaker 2: better than just having like any like somebody. Yeah, somebody 1325 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,680 Speaker 2: going deeper downfield because you got to open things up 1326 01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:39,000 Speaker 2: a little bit. You know, you got Robinson, you got 1327 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:41,200 Speaker 2: I got I think that clogs. 1328 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:41,360 Speaker 1: Up the field. 1329 01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,800 Speaker 2: I mean, Jimmy Graham did have eight touchdowns last year, 1330 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,320 Speaker 2: so who knows? Who knows what the Bears are thinking? 1331 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:48,360 Speaker 2: But remember last year when they got all those tight ends. 1332 01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,320 Speaker 2: I got one point and then they ended up cutting 1333 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 2: like all of them, so they do love their tight ends, 1334 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,120 Speaker 2: so I would yeah, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean 1335 01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,560 Speaker 2: they got Jesse James there now. 1336 01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,800 Speaker 1: So I think either way, I think Mooney is a 1337 01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,440 Speaker 1: lot for ninety routes run per dropback, I would say, yeah, 1338 01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: no matter how this sorts out, he's going to be 1339 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:07,160 Speaker 1: on the field. 1340 01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what he was doing down a stretch. Yeah, 1341 01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:10,400 Speaker 3: you know. 1342 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,560 Speaker 2: And Anthony Miller, a guy who's established, is gone. So yeah, 1343 01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,880 Speaker 2: whoever's that third receiver is gonna I think lag behind 1344 01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,400 Speaker 2: and be situational. But the moon he should be on 1345 01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:24,520 Speaker 2: the field pretty much every snap. For my second receiving prop, 1346 01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:28,240 Speaker 2: I'm going with Blake Jarwin. So five hundred and twenty 1347 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:32,040 Speaker 2: five receiving yards is the line at prize pick, so 1348 01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 2: I love putting the under Jarwin in an entry. He 1349 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,919 Speaker 2: would need to average about thirty one yards per game 1350 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,880 Speaker 2: to you know, play off seventeen to go over that. 1351 01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 2: He's never averaged more than twenty three in his career. 1352 01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:48,240 Speaker 2: And in the Cowboys preseason tuneup Dalton Schultz, who remember 1353 01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 2: had a pretty good year. Once Jarvin went down, Schultz 1354 01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,240 Speaker 2: actually out snapped Jarwin twelve to ten in that tune up, 1355 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 2: I have them running pretty much the same amount of 1356 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,720 Speaker 2: routes this season, and it's hard to know right now 1357 01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:05,000 Speaker 2: who will run more. I you know, there's just been 1358 01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,200 Speaker 2: no indication that Jarwin's going to step back in and 1359 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 2: get that starting role all to himself, especially after Schultz 1360 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:13,960 Speaker 2: played well last year and he you know, he is 1361 01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,479 Speaker 2: coming off the well is an acl right, Yeah, yeah, 1362 01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,200 Speaker 2: he is coming off of a cl bigger guy, so uh, 1363 01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:23,439 Speaker 2: you know there could be a slow start here, and 1364 01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:25,759 Speaker 2: you know, also don't know about the hell so another 1365 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:29,240 Speaker 2: guy who would be setting a career high if he 1366 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 2: went over that five twenty five high, like going under, 1367 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:34,599 Speaker 2: I don't and I just don't think the Cowboys tight 1368 01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 2: ends are you know, they're going to be the fifth 1369 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,160 Speaker 2: target of the five on the field at any given 1370 01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:40,000 Speaker 2: point for Dallas. 1371 01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 3: So like the under Jarwin five twenty five. 1372 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I love that call because you know, Jarwin 1373 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,200 Speaker 1: probably has the most upside of the two tight ends. 1374 01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 1: But I think people are under estimating how much of 1375 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,360 Speaker 1: a you know, tight end time share this is going 1376 01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: to be. I think Schultz really proved last year that 1377 01:08:56,280 --> 01:08:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, he's he's a pretty good pass catching tight end, 1378 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:00,640 Speaker 1: so they'll see what they have and him this year. 1379 01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 1: I think they splitting, especially out of the gate. You know, 1380 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: like you said, Jarwin's coming off an ACL injury, so 1381 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:06,880 Speaker 1: at least out of the gate, it's going to be 1382 01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 1: more of a fifty to fifty split and that could 1383 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: get you know, him on a rate where he's going 1384 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 1: to really have to go off later in the season 1385 01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,800 Speaker 1: to go over this number. So I love this call 1386 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,160 Speaker 1: as well. 1387 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,719 Speaker 2: And wasn't Schultz always the better blockers, So the fact 1388 01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 2: that he showed well what. 1389 01:09:19,800 --> 01:09:22,080 Speaker 3: Schultz used to just be that third tight end and 1390 01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:23,400 Speaker 3: like the blocking guy. 1391 01:09:23,479 --> 01:09:26,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, but the fact that he showed well in receiving, 1392 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,639 Speaker 2: you could keep Jarwin in that same kind of role. 1393 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,880 Speaker 2: He was almost with Jason Whitten, you know, maybe a 1394 01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,080 Speaker 2: little more than that, but you know, Jaron was kind 1395 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,439 Speaker 2: of that receiving tight end that you would throw out 1396 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,560 Speaker 2: there on certain certain types of situations. 1397 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 3: But yeah, I think I think he's going to be 1398 01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:40,960 Speaker 3: situational and. 1399 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:43,799 Speaker 1: Like like you said, they're competing with you know, Amari Cooper, 1400 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,479 Speaker 1: Ceedee Lamb, and Michael Gallup, so the targets between the 1401 01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,000 Speaker 1: two are going to be few and far between. 1402 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:50,880 Speaker 3: Yep, all right, who you got next? 1403 01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm going with Kadarius Tony under five hundred and five 1404 01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:58,639 Speaker 1: receiving yards. You know, he hasn't really gotten in much 1405 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,280 Speaker 1: work at all in camp, which which is a bad 1406 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,160 Speaker 1: start because he's the type player that will need to 1407 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,360 Speaker 1: be schemed up in order to go over this number. 1408 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,040 Speaker 1: He's he should be a pretty low ad kind of 1409 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 1: player right around the line of scrimmage. He's gonna be 1410 01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,479 Speaker 1: dangerous with the ball in his hands. So he's the 1411 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,120 Speaker 1: type of player that you kind of want to get 1412 01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:18,759 Speaker 1: integrated in the offense. It's unclear if offensive corner Jason 1413 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,920 Speaker 1: Garrett's talented enough to kind of figure out how to 1414 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: unlock a player like Tony, and he could be competing 1415 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,479 Speaker 1: with Saquon Barkley for targets, you know, in that kind 1416 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: of around the line of scrimmage area. So I don't 1417 01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 1: like Tony at all. In year one, I think he's 1418 01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,960 Speaker 1: gonna have has a steep learning curve. Maybe a year 1419 01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: two he might be integrating the offense a bit more. 1420 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,400 Speaker 1: But five hundred yards for a player like him, he's 1421 01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to see way more volume than I'm projecting. 1422 01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,519 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, I just don't see how 1423 01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 1: he's going to go over this total just give him 1424 01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:50,759 Speaker 1: the lack of practice time, the lack of just really 1425 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,760 Speaker 1: anything we've seen from him. So that's why I love 1426 01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:55,360 Speaker 1: this under five hundred and five receiving yards. 1427 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, when we were planning out the pod and the 1428 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,880 Speaker 2: which prize pick lines we were going to take, you know, 1429 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,720 Speaker 2: and enter into these entries and talk about Tony was 1430 01:11:06,720 --> 01:11:08,080 Speaker 2: the guy that I wrote down and I saw that 1431 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 2: you already had him, I was like, well, I've already 1432 01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 2: bet Tony. 1433 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:12,200 Speaker 3: I part. 1434 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 2: I put Tony in an entry with Breshad Perriman under, 1435 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:20,040 Speaker 2: so I'm hoping that Yeah, so I'm hoping that that's 1436 01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,120 Speaker 2: still the Peraman entry is still alive because I have 1437 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 2: him with with Tony both unders for receiving yards, and 1438 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:31,400 Speaker 2: it's a little similar to Mims in that he's definitely 1439 01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:34,080 Speaker 2: going to be on the second string. The plan was 1440 01:11:34,120 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 2: to bring him along slow all along, and then that 1441 01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 2: was exacerbated by the fact that he hasn't really been 1442 01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 2: healthy in the in the preseason either, so he hasn't 1443 01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 2: gotten much time to practice, hasn't got many reps, you know, 1444 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,800 Speaker 2: first round picks, you know, high, pretty high draft pick. 1445 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:55,880 Speaker 2: There is some some upside here, but median wise, it's 1446 01:11:55,880 --> 01:11:58,400 Speaker 2: going to take a lot for him to get over 1447 01:11:58,439 --> 01:12:03,360 Speaker 2: five hundred and especially we Kyle rudolph Is is just 1448 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,559 Speaker 2: you know, started getting back into the swing of things. 1449 01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 2: I know the Giants do want to go to more 1450 01:12:08,439 --> 01:12:09,719 Speaker 2: two tight looks this year. 1451 01:12:10,040 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 3: Evan Ingram is a. 1452 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 2: Little bit banged up and it got banged up in 1453 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: that preseason game, so we'll see how that goes. But 1454 01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:20,200 Speaker 2: this could be a more of a heavy personnel offense 1455 01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 2: than it was in years past, so that also kind 1456 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,479 Speaker 2: of limits the amount of on field you know, just 1457 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:28,880 Speaker 2: snaps that that Tony could get so and he could 1458 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,040 Speaker 2: get a lot of his you know, he could get 1459 01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:32,400 Speaker 2: a good amount of his yardage in a run game too, 1460 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:35,599 Speaker 2: Like he could get decent yardage this year and it 1461 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:36,320 Speaker 2: doesn't all have. 1462 01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 3: To come through the air. 1463 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,879 Speaker 2: So yeah, Tony was a guy that I had circled 1464 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:45,519 Speaker 2: as well. For me, I am going with Dallas Goddard 1465 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 2: for my third one under six hundred and seventy five. 1466 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,880 Speaker 2: So you look at him with Jalen Hurts and he 1467 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 2: was right around you know that thirty nine to forty 1468 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,400 Speaker 2: three yard per game yards per game and in the 1469 01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:00,880 Speaker 2: three starts with Hurts, but Hurts roof for you know, 1470 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 2: three fifty plus and two of those starts. And if 1471 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 2: you look at the percentage of yardage that Goddard got 1472 01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:10,840 Speaker 2: of Hurts his passing yards in Hurts his three starts, 1473 01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:13,400 Speaker 2: because Godder didn't play in that season finale when Hurts 1474 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:17,479 Speaker 2: also got bench got he got just fourteen percent of 1475 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,120 Speaker 2: Jalen hurts yardage share. Now Prize Picks has a Jayalen 1476 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,280 Speaker 2: Hurts passing yardage prop up that's three thousand, six hundred 1477 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,360 Speaker 2: and fifty. So take fourteen percent of that and you're 1478 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 2: at just five hundred and seventeen yards. 1479 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 3: So again, this Gotter thing is like it's number one. 1480 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how like if Hurts is going to 1481 01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:40,479 Speaker 2: be extremely beneficial to you know, to tight ends. That's 1482 01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:42,799 Speaker 2: why I usually buy low on Ertz, who I think 1483 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:45,320 Speaker 2: will run the same amount of routes or get traded 1484 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,720 Speaker 2: to a team, will he'll be uh, you. 1485 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:48,799 Speaker 3: Know, a starter. 1486 01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:53,080 Speaker 2: So I'm kind of fading got her in a lot 1487 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,519 Speaker 2: of different ways. In six seventy five receiving yards, I 1488 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 2: just think that's too high for a guy that is 1489 01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:02,720 Speaker 2: either going to be sharing the e one snaps or 1490 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 2: is just going to be on an offense where you know, 1491 01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,960 Speaker 2: three hundred three thou six hundred and fifty passing yards 1492 01:14:07,040 --> 01:14:09,439 Speaker 2: is not a high ceiling offense in terms of yardage. 1493 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:10,560 Speaker 2: You know, Hurts is going to get a lot of 1494 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,439 Speaker 2: yardage on the ground. He likes to throw off skip 1495 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,559 Speaker 2: script plays. I think you've talked about that. He likes 1496 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,799 Speaker 2: to go off script and that usually benefits the outside 1497 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:21,080 Speaker 2: receivers on the scrambled drill, guys like Smith Rager. 1498 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:24,040 Speaker 3: Maybe you'll see Qus Watkins. 1499 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,719 Speaker 2: I think you know it was making a real play 1500 01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:30,879 Speaker 2: for more targets in this offense, which you know, receivers 1501 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:32,600 Speaker 2: were kind of hard to come by at times. 1502 01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:33,280 Speaker 3: For the Eagles last year. 1503 01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:36,200 Speaker 2: So you know, there could just be there's just a 1504 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:39,559 Speaker 2: lot too way too much uncertainty to bet Dallas god 1505 01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:43,040 Speaker 2: Her to to get to uh you know, believe that 1506 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,639 Speaker 2: this would be a career high for him too, right 1507 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,080 Speaker 2: over six seventy five. 1508 01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, so not the year. I think last year was 1509 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 3: the year that got her. 1510 01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,639 Speaker 2: And he actually had more yardage two years ago because 1511 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 2: he played fifteen games last year. 1512 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:57,320 Speaker 3: He only played eleven. 1513 01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,440 Speaker 2: So maybe maybe he's even an injury risk who knows, 1514 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:03,559 Speaker 2: but yeah, not the year for a Goddard career high 1515 01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:04,479 Speaker 2: in my opinion. 1516 01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 3: So going under six seventy five. 1517 01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean we're less than two weeks away 1518 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,160 Speaker 1: from the season start and zach Ertz is still an Eagle, 1519 01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 1: So I think this prop has dropped significantly. I think 1520 01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:19,599 Speaker 1: it was like around eight hundred. Oh wow, well ago, 1521 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,599 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember. But yeah, I mean we already 1522 01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 1: talked about this every day that zach Ertz is still 1523 01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 1: in Philly. I've been lowering Dallas Goddard's projection to where, yeah, 1524 01:15:29,160 --> 01:15:32,240 Speaker 1: it's down around six hundred. Now it seems like Ertz 1525 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,000 Speaker 1: is there to say, like you mentioned, you know, they 1526 01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:37,920 Speaker 1: have other weapons. DeVonta Smith should be the number one 1527 01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,240 Speaker 1: target this year. Like I already mentioned Kenth gainwell, they 1528 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,080 Speaker 1: should use him in the passing game. There's just too 1529 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,479 Speaker 1: many targets go around, and this isn't an offense that's 1530 01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 1: going to have a ton of passing gooining me to 1531 01:15:47,400 --> 01:15:49,559 Speaker 1: begin with. So love the Goddard under as well. 1532 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm around five fifty fifty one catches, five hundred 1533 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,280 Speaker 2: and fifty two yards, four point one touch. 1534 01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:57,720 Speaker 1: Atown right, and you know, I love Dallas Goddard like 1535 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,920 Speaker 1: I wanted nothing more than Ertz to go somewhere else 1536 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:03,880 Speaker 1: and have got her unleashed, but unfortunately it doesn't look 1537 01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 1: like it's happening. 1538 01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's my title eleven. Usually he goes higher than that, 1539 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,200 Speaker 2: so I usually don't get him. 1540 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 3: But if he falls, I don't. I don't hate it. 1541 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:14,360 Speaker 2: It's just you know, he's still a top twelve tight 1542 01:16:14,479 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 2: end by the ranking, but he's just usually going higher 1543 01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,960 Speaker 2: than that. So that's why I'm baiting him for the 1544 01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,760 Speaker 2: most part this fantasy draft season. All right, last last 1545 01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:24,479 Speaker 2: receiverment prop? 1546 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:26,759 Speaker 1: We got, all right, I'm gonna end it with a bang, 1547 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,240 Speaker 1: with an Eric Ebron prop. 1548 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:31,360 Speaker 3: You mean a drop? A drop? 1549 01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:35,280 Speaker 1: I am taking exactly, I am. That's why I'm taking 1550 01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,640 Speaker 1: the under five hundred and a half receiving yards for 1551 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,080 Speaker 1: Eric Ebron. So not only does Ebron have to compete 1552 01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:45,479 Speaker 1: with Deantay Johnson, Chase Claypool, Juju Smith, Schuster, you can 1553 01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,839 Speaker 1: throw James Washington in there now, he has to compete 1554 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:53,759 Speaker 1: with second round rookie Pat Firemouth, also known as Baby Gronk, 1555 01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 1: who has looked talk about overapping the preseason. 1556 01:16:57,479 --> 01:17:00,000 Speaker 3: Just one more guy has looked a maze. 1557 01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:02,920 Speaker 1: I thought he might, you know, break out next year 1558 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:06,719 Speaker 1: potentially when Ebron's gone, but I think that he's going 1559 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,960 Speaker 1: to factor in this year. So Ebron's you know, probably 1560 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:12,639 Speaker 1: going to be splitting playing time with the rookie by 1561 01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:14,280 Speaker 1: the end of the season. So that's why I think 1562 01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,920 Speaker 1: there's just multiple outs for this under. You already mentioned 1563 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Eric Ebron has his drop issues, So give me the 1564 01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,960 Speaker 1: under five one hundred and a half receiving yards for 1565 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:24,559 Speaker 1: Ericke Brown. 1566 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:28,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, because when did Vance McDonald retire. 1567 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:30,920 Speaker 2: Was it at the it was at the end of 1568 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,639 Speaker 2: the twenty nineteen season or was it like early into 1569 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 2: twenty twenty. 1570 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,200 Speaker 1: Ooh, I think he. I think he may have started 1571 01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:37,640 Speaker 1: last year. 1572 01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,920 Speaker 2: Let me look, I don't think he played it all 1573 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 2: last year. Maybe did he? Oh yeah no Pittsburgh, Oh 1574 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:45,960 Speaker 2: yeah he played. 1575 01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:46,559 Speaker 3: Wow. 1576 01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 2: I totally forgot that he played fourteen games. But yeah, 1577 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,599 Speaker 2: so that that's too much. Yeah, that's more to my point. 1578 01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:55,880 Speaker 2: It's like Vance McDonald, like Ebron got lucky last year 1579 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,320 Speaker 2: because Vance McDonald, I think, was supposed to be kind 1580 01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,880 Speaker 2: of that platoon guy and he just really wasn't. He 1581 01:18:02,920 --> 01:18:06,120 Speaker 2: didn't live up to that expectation, So I think fear 1582 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:09,760 Speaker 2: Moof could actually be more of a true platoon with 1583 01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,800 Speaker 2: Ebron this year, especially if Ebron again he just has 1584 01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,000 Speaker 2: these like maddening, maddening drops and it's frustrating for I mean, 1585 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,519 Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go downfield a little bit more. 1586 01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:22,120 Speaker 2: You pointed out Roethlisberger's arm looks a lot better, but 1587 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,080 Speaker 2: the more they're going downfield, that doesn't really benefit the 1588 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:29,559 Speaker 2: tight end necessarily either. So uh, yeah, Ebron, I have him. 1589 01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:32,919 Speaker 2: I have him not too far under actually, because I'm 1590 01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:36,080 Speaker 2: expecting Pittsburgh to bounce back in terms of the passing yardage, 1591 01:18:36,120 --> 01:18:38,720 Speaker 2: like you said. But yeah, I think there's a very 1592 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,880 Speaker 2: low floor with Ebron this year because he could get 1593 01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 2: straight up overtaken. 1594 01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, like all the hypes with Kyle Pitts, 1595 01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:48,519 Speaker 1: you know, for good reason for these rookie tight ends, 1596 01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,839 Speaker 1: but baby Gronk has looked really good. Any other draft class, 1597 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,200 Speaker 1: like he'd probably have more hype right now. But just 1598 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,719 Speaker 1: I think Kyle Pitts is just absorbing all the hype 1599 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,120 Speaker 1: that we're not hearing as much about him. But you know, 1600 01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:01,960 Speaker 1: firm the two touchdown games, So I think we cats 1601 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 1: out of the bag, but he just looked so impressive. 1602 01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,120 Speaker 1: I'm in camp in preseason that I don't see how 1603 01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:09,479 Speaker 1: they keep him off the field as a rookie. So 1604 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,679 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna come at the expense of Eric Ebron. 1605 01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Abron, I mean it's it's never pretty was him. 1606 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:19,679 Speaker 2: He had that one big year with Indy with Andrew Luck, 1607 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:23,040 Speaker 2: but it's usually frustrating with Ebron. So yeah, I like 1608 01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 2: getting ahead of that and getting on the right side 1609 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:30,839 Speaker 2: of that frustration. I'll close it out with Adam Sewin 1610 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,200 Speaker 2: under nine hundred and ninety receiving yards at prize pick. 1611 01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:39,320 Speaker 2: The Eland's averaging just fifty five receiving yards per game 1612 01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:43,000 Speaker 2: over the last two seasons. He's missed six of thirty 1613 01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:49,080 Speaker 2: two games, so nineteen percent. Minnesota. Remember their pass volume 1614 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 2: could decrease this year because they almost every year under 1615 01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,880 Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer have a top ten defense, and last year 1616 01:19:56,080 --> 01:19:57,920 Speaker 2: they were more middle of the pack. They found them 1617 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:01,160 Speaker 2: they found themselves in more kind of shootout game scripts, 1618 01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,160 Speaker 2: and so I think across the board, you're going to 1619 01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,040 Speaker 2: see some regression for this offense. 1620 01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:07,720 Speaker 3: Even for a guy like Justin Jefferson. 1621 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 2: I don't think he gets to fourteen hundred receiving yards 1622 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,519 Speaker 2: even in seventeen games this year. But Fiewen was a 1623 01:20:13,520 --> 01:20:17,000 Speaker 2: guy in fifteen games, he was at nine hundred and 1624 01:20:17,000 --> 01:20:18,280 Speaker 2: twenty five receiving yards. 1625 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,599 Speaker 3: He'll be thirty one this year. 1626 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:23,400 Speaker 2: I just think that there's a lot of ways for 1627 01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,960 Speaker 2: him to be short of this total. You know, justin 1628 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,920 Speaker 2: Jefferson in year one out targeted d Win, you know, 1629 01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 2: one twenty five to one away. He played one more game, 1630 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:36,160 Speaker 2: but he got four hundred and seventy five more yards 1631 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,719 Speaker 2: than then, and that was just in year one for Jefferson. 1632 01:20:38,720 --> 01:20:41,960 Speaker 3: So the split could even grow wider. Minnesota could could 1633 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:42,880 Speaker 3: row less. 1634 01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,720 Speaker 2: And also Kirk Cousins I mean, and partly due to 1635 01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:50,200 Speaker 2: Jefferson last year, but kirk Cousins eight point one yards 1636 01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 2: perk pass attempt two years ago, eight point three last year. 1637 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,519 Speaker 2: So it's also you know, will Kirk Cousins continue to 1638 01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,959 Speaker 2: average you know, eight plus yards per attempt? 1639 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:02,800 Speaker 3: Who knows? You know that that could also regress. So 1640 01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:04,360 Speaker 3: there's just a lot of different. 1641 01:21:04,040 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 2: Ways that Minnesota could still have a better season than 1642 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:11,000 Speaker 2: they did last year, and the offensive numbers could go 1643 01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:12,240 Speaker 2: down because they don't need to. 1644 01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:12,960 Speaker 3: They don't need it. 1645 01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 2: They don't need cousins to throw for you know, forty 1646 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,280 Speaker 2: three hundred yards and thirty five touchdowns this year, Well 1647 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:20,639 Speaker 2: they don't. They probably don't want to need that. If 1648 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:23,360 Speaker 2: that defense rebounds and it looks it looks better, you know, 1649 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,680 Speaker 2: there's still I think the secondary will be better than 1650 01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:31,200 Speaker 2: it was last year. Still some question marks, but overall 1651 01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,720 Speaker 2: I expect Mike Zimmer to get it back to where 1652 01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:34,400 Speaker 2: it's been in the past. 1653 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,320 Speaker 3: So going theman under nine to ninety, Yeah, I. 1654 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,120 Speaker 1: Agree the defense should be much better. And we know 1655 01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:41,599 Speaker 1: the Vikings love to run the shell of the ball 1656 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,960 Speaker 1: when they're they're up, so I agree with that. But 1657 01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,200 Speaker 1: are you concern it all with this IRV Smith injury? 1658 01:21:47,240 --> 01:21:50,599 Speaker 1: He's I mean he was potentially out for who could 1659 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:52,800 Speaker 1: be the whole season, hopefully not, but I mean it 1660 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 1: could be like the first month, and you know where 1661 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,280 Speaker 1: where do you think those targets are going to go? 1662 01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,800 Speaker 1: You think feeling might absorb some of. 1663 01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:01,920 Speaker 2: That, don't because I think the WANs kind of because 1664 01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:05,280 Speaker 2: like I already have Thewen still running ninety percent of 1665 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:08,840 Speaker 2: the routes per game. I have him missing only one 1666 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,880 Speaker 2: game like a normal receiver, and I still have him 1667 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,160 Speaker 2: fifty yards short of this, you know, or forty yards Shu. 1668 01:22:14,160 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 2: I have him at seventy one for nine to fifty, 1669 01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:21,840 Speaker 2: so you know that that tells me, like, and that's 1670 01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:24,240 Speaker 2: a pretty optimistic for Jaman. That means that nothing really 1671 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,439 Speaker 2: is going to go wrong. He's going to miss the 1672 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 2: Median one game. He's still going to at age thirty 1673 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:30,720 Speaker 2: one run you know, ninety percent of the you know, 1674 01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:34,439 Speaker 2: be on the field pretty much every snap, so you know, 1675 01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,320 Speaker 2: Smith's The thing about Smith was, yes, he was a 1676 01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,960 Speaker 2: guy that was in line for a breakout, but his 1677 01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 2: targets per route run is fifteen percent, and you know, 1678 01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:47,200 Speaker 2: so we were kind of expecting him to take a jump, 1679 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:50,719 Speaker 2: but it's not as if, like in my model, Smith 1680 01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:53,160 Speaker 2: still kind of has that you know, that fifteen percent, 1681 01:22:53,360 --> 01:22:57,639 Speaker 2: like that's his default baseline rate. So he's like him 1682 01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:02,639 Speaker 2: being out doesn't necessarily change change much because Tyler Conklin 1683 01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 2: I have him projected at fourteen percent, so there's really 1684 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:10,600 Speaker 2: only like a one percent additional target increase that I 1685 01:23:10,720 --> 01:23:14,120 Speaker 2: have anyway, and remember Smith is you know, the starting 1686 01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:15,559 Speaker 2: tight end is also not going to run as many 1687 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,120 Speaker 2: routes because they're gonna block. So I had Smith around 1688 01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,000 Speaker 2: seventy two seventy three percent of the routes, whereas the 1689 01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,680 Speaker 2: Wan's at ninety. So it's it's not really going to 1690 01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 2: affect it too much, I think, just a little. 1691 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,360 Speaker 1: For me. Yeah, I had IRV Smith's breakout kind of 1692 01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:33,800 Speaker 1: impacting Adam feeling a bit. So that's why i'm kind of, ah, 1693 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,720 Speaker 1: gotcha considering it. But yeah, Conklin's going to step right in. 1694 01:23:36,920 --> 01:23:39,200 Speaker 1: Who knows who's going to be the second tight end, 1695 01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:42,719 Speaker 1: But if anything, it's just going to hurt Kirk Cousins, 1696 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:44,920 Speaker 1: Like it won't impact I'm feeling. It's just gonna, you know, 1697 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,960 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins numbers might dip a bit. So I haven't 1698 01:23:47,960 --> 01:23:50,920 Speaker 1: made an adjustment yet with feeling necessarily, but I was 1699 01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,920 Speaker 1: just curious thought that that might impact feeling at all. 1700 01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean tight ends really they are so like 1701 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,400 Speaker 2: there's a lot of regression to the mean there, and 1702 01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:03,680 Speaker 2: they're all like unless you have like a Kelsey or 1703 01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:07,200 Speaker 2: a Kiddle or somebody like that, like they're not going 1704 01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:09,240 Speaker 2: to make too much of a difference. Like if you 1705 01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:11,720 Speaker 2: take them out and put in like a replacement level 1706 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,960 Speaker 2: tight end on most teams, and like IRV Smith is 1707 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,240 Speaker 2: kind of even though we like him, he's still like 1708 01:24:17,320 --> 01:24:19,360 Speaker 2: he was in that like glut of you know, low 1709 01:24:19,479 --> 01:24:20,679 Speaker 2: end tight end once for a reason. 1710 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:23,360 Speaker 1: Like yeah, like I get it. But for the Vikings 1711 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,439 Speaker 1: specifically the tight ends sort of the wide receiver three, 1712 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:29,439 Speaker 1: especially IRV Smith. So like, what are they going to 1713 01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:32,679 Speaker 1: run more eleven personnel now with kJ Osborne or Chad BB. 1714 01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:36,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know. It just seems like the target 1715 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,240 Speaker 1: tree might get like even more narrow with IRV Smith out. 1716 01:24:40,400 --> 01:24:43,880 Speaker 2: So's oh no, absolutely, like I have them, you know, 1717 01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 2: I have Deeman getting a pretty significant amount. 1718 01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:47,160 Speaker 3: Of the targets. 1719 01:24:47,200 --> 01:24:50,160 Speaker 2: Still, It's just this is a low volume team, I mean, 1720 01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,400 Speaker 2: and then they could be lower volume than last year. 1721 01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,120 Speaker 2: So I mean I feel I feel good about it, 1722 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:56,240 Speaker 2: but I get I see your point, you know, Smith. 1723 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,839 Speaker 1: I'm with you on the under I was just curious 1724 01:24:58,840 --> 01:25:01,880 Speaker 1: if we should be not overlooking that, but I think 1725 01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,800 Speaker 1: we're on the same page that and sort of the 1726 01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:07,120 Speaker 1: Vikings passing attack. Taking a big step back is probably 1727 01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:07,920 Speaker 1: the way to go here. 1728 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:10,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's nuts like Kirk Cousins having like 1729 01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 2: one of the best yard per attempt projections in my 1730 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,559 Speaker 2: whole Like he's right there with Mahomes and you know, 1731 01:25:16,600 --> 01:25:20,160 Speaker 2: in terms of yards per attempts for me, right, yeah, yeah, 1732 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:23,720 Speaker 2: which and yeah, it's like it's like Mahomes, Cousins, Tannehill, 1733 01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:27,439 Speaker 2: like those guys right there at the top, and yeah, 1734 01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 2: it's kind of nuts. 1735 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,759 Speaker 3: So if is Kirk's cousin's going to be top. 1736 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:35,640 Speaker 2: Three yards per attempt maybe, but yeah, a lot of 1737 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,639 Speaker 2: a lot of floor there, and the Wan fifteen games 1738 01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 2: last year, but only ten the year before. 1739 01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,679 Speaker 3: We'll see if he can last for an entire seventeen 1740 01:25:44,680 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 3: game season. 1741 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:50,240 Speaker 2: So that is a wrap, all right, So twenty four 1742 01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:54,200 Speaker 2: props man, that was we went in. I always loved 1743 01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:57,680 Speaker 2: this episode every every year because it really kind of 1744 01:25:57,720 --> 01:26:02,439 Speaker 2: crystallizes some of the last second projections that we're doing. 1745 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:07,360 Speaker 2: And we'll have our final rankings episode coming out in 1746 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:09,719 Speaker 2: a couple of days as well, so that should be exciting. 1747 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. I love this episode because we've got to talk 1748 01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:16,040 Speaker 1: about player props and also we're that much closer to 1749 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,879 Speaker 1: getting to watch these players, which is awesome. 1750 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 2: We got that like extra week off between the regular season, 1751 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:25,040 Speaker 2: but we'll have the rosters probably by the time you 1752 01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:27,360 Speaker 2: guys hear this. 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