1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,200 Speaker 1: All right, news round up and information overload hour. Here's 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: our toll free telephone number. If you want to be 3 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: a part of the program, it's eight hundred and ninety 4 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: four one sean if you want to join us. In 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: a minute, we will be joined by Venezuela's leader of 6 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: the Democratic Opposition, Maria Corrino Machado. Just as a reminder 7 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: of her background, her history, it was only twenty twenty 8 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: three she as the opposition party leader, won that primary 9 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: with more than ninety two percent of the vote, an 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 1: overwhelming popular mandate became a symbol of Venezuela's Democratic opposition. 11 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: Maduro then banned her from the ballot, despite striking a 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: deal with the Biden administration for reduced sanctions in exchange 13 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: for free and fair elections. They were anything but free, 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,559 Speaker 1: they were anything but fair, And despite this fact, she 15 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: remained the opposition leader, and she stayed on the ground 16 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: and stayed in Venezuela great risk to her own personal life. 17 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: In the meantime, her key ally at Mundo Gonzales, ran 18 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: in her place. But those elections, nobody recognizes them as legitimate, 19 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: or free or fair by any measure. The more widely 20 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: accepted results show that the opposition won by nearly forty points. 21 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 1: And anyway, then she was given, if you recall, the 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize in twenty twenty five, and that was 23 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: announced in October of twenty twenty five. The ceremony took 24 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: place December tenth, twenty twenty five, and she was on 25 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: this program December seventeenth of last year before I went 26 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: on my long vacation of the year, and following the 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: announcement that she had won the Nobel Peace Prize, she said, today, 28 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: more than ever, we count on President Trump and the 29 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: people of the United States, the peoples of Latin America, 30 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the democratic nations of the world as our principal all 31 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: eyes to achieve freedom and democracy. I dedicate this prize 32 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: to the suffering people of Venezuela and to President Trump 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: for his decisive support of our cause. And anyway, she 34 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: joins us now and her plan is to return as 35 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: soon as possible to Venezuela. She you know, has she 36 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: basically knew if she went back there that her life 37 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: would be in jeopardy. Anyway, Maria uh Coarina Machado, it's 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 1: great to have you back. Thank you for joining us. 39 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,920 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, Sean, thank you on behalf of all 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:39,119 Speaker 2: the Venezuelan people. You have been a great supported supporter 41 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 2: of our cause for democracy, for freedom, for dignities, for families, 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: and for turning Venezuela from you know, a criminal hub 43 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: on a real threat to the whole hemisphere into a 44 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: true ally of the people, of the good people of 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 2: our of our nation and our nations throughout the America. 46 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 2: So thank you very much. 47 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: You said on x the hour of freedom has arrived. 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: Now with that there is a temporary period of time 49 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:16,839 Speaker 1: here where obviously the United States is going to keep 50 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: the country stable until such time as they're able to 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: have free and fair elections. I would imagine you will 52 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: be back and hopefully running. Is that correct? 53 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I convey to to all the people that 54 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 2: are least in us right now what this moment represents. 55 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 2: This is a milestone in Venezuelan history, and I would 56 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: go further, I would say, into the history of the Americas. 57 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: For over twenty seven years, Venezuela has been under a 58 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 2: brutal dictatorship that has turned a country that used to 59 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 2: be one of the most wealthy and more free and 60 00:03:54,320 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: secure into a country that is poor, than Haitia. Our people, 61 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 2: a third of our population have been forced to flee 62 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: shan to survive, to survive, to send food back to 63 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: your children. I mean today eighty six percent of Anazon 64 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 2: people living poverty. And we have the largest oil reserves 65 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: in the world. And why because there's a socialist, criminal, 66 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 2: narco terrorist regime that has turned the country into the 67 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 2: safe heaven for all the enemies of the Americas, saying 68 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 2: the Russian, Uranian, the Cubans, the Hezbola and Hamas terrorists, 69 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 2: Islamic groups, the drug cartels that operating partnership with Madudo, 70 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: with Delsi Rodriguez, and with these, you know, the creeds 71 00:04:53,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 2: of the regimes that have intentionally destroyed Venezuela and destabilized region, 72 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 2: use our huge resources to destabilize the region, including the 73 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: United States. So what happened last Saturday and July third, 74 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: I believe that that day will go down in history 75 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: as the day justice truned over tyranny, and President Trump 76 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: will be recognized in history, in history through generations to come, 77 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 2: as the leader who was able to do what many 78 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: said was impossible to achieve, which is dismantled this criminal 79 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: structure that has brought so much pain, not only to 80 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: Venezuela but to the whole hemisphere. 81 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 1: Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the entire world. 82 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: You surpassed Saudi Arabia, which is number two, by a 83 00:05:55,480 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: significant amount. I know the oil needs a lot of refinery. 84 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: American companies have helped since the nineteen twenties build out 85 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that oil infrastructure. The energy secretaries meeting 86 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: now with all of the energy producers in this country 87 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: in the hopes of getting online the vast resources which 88 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: will help the Venezuelan people. It will take some time 89 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 1: to get there, but that that is obviously the goal, 90 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: and I think the President rightly is focusing in on Okay, 91 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: we've got to start producing this oil so the people 92 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: of Venezuela will be the beneficiaries of it, as will 93 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: do the companies that were robbed blind when they nationalized 94 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,040 Speaker 1: all the oil companies. 95 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely, this is going to be a wind seituention solution, 96 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: and not only in oil and gas. As you say, 97 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 2: Venezuela has vast gas reserves and the largest oil reserves 98 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 2: in the world, but also minerals, rare minerals, infrastructure, technology, electricity. 99 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: In a world that needs for AI and technology, energy supply. 100 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: Venezuela has the cheapest and cleanest supply in the region 101 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: and we are only three hours away from Florida. I mean, 102 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: Venezuela has, you know, an enormous potential. But in order 103 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: to transform these resources into wealth, certainly you need investment, 104 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: huge investments. But you need to have security, you need 105 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: to have rule of law, you need to have infrastructure, 106 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 2: and you need to have people, people that are trained, 107 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 2: people that are responsible, that are freedom lovers. And that's 108 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 2: precisely what Venezuela has. But Venezuela needs not rule of 109 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: law today. Imagine Sean Venezuela is in the last place worldwide, 110 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: of one hundred forty two countries that have been evaluated 111 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: by the Justice in this project. Globally, Venezuela is in 112 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: the last place. Who is going to invest in a 113 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 2: country where property rights are not respected, where you don't 114 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 2: have an independent judiciary. But that's precisely what we're going 115 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: to bring. We're going to privatize what Travis and Ladudo 116 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 2: took over. We're going to open market. We're going to 117 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 2: have reduce taxes and make it super attractive and super 118 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: competitive regarding the physical conditions, and we're going to introduce 119 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 2: protection for an external international investment. But most of all, 120 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 2: we're going to have our people, that nine million people 121 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: that were forced to flee and that have been trained, 122 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: that have been learning, studying, investing abroad coming back home. 123 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: And it's going, you know, we're going to turn Venezuela 124 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 2: from this criminal hub, from the sanctuary of all these 125 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 2: criminal networks that have you know, installed in the heart 126 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: of the Americas. Were going to turn it into the 127 00:09:08,760 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: energy hub of the Americas and the strongest ally the 128 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 2: US has ever had in our region. Now. 129 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: Trans I don't want to be pollyannosh about all of this, 130 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: but transitions such as you're describing, I believe it is 131 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: beyond possible. I think it will become a reality. I'm 132 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: very optimistic for the people of Venezuela, for you and 133 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: for your country. Uh, the amount of wealth available for 134 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: the people is beyond comprehension. People don't don't really fully 135 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: understand how much how much how much wealth can be 136 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: produced in your country. Transitions though like this, are very 137 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: very difficult. You have Maduro loyalists, you have Trende or Ragua, 138 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: you have Narco terrorists, You know their entire you know, 139 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: uh livelihood is now going to be disrupted and there 140 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:09,359 Speaker 1: will be I assume hiccups and difficulties during this transition. 141 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: What do you foresee? 142 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 2: That's absolutely true. We do not underestimate the challenges and 143 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 2: complexities because during twenty seven years, Venezuela has been destroyed, 144 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: not only our economy, not only all the private sectors, 145 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 2: not only forcing people to flee our institutions, there's no justice, 146 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 2: no education. Also the way our territory has been given 147 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,079 Speaker 2: a way to international and foreign criminal groups. So we 148 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: do not underestimate the challenges ahead. But and I do 149 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: understand that for American people, you know, regime change and 150 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 2: transitions to democracy create concerns because of the experiences of 151 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 2: the past. But bet I ask you to think of 152 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 2: the profound difference that Venezuela has compared to Middle East countries. 153 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 2: On one hand, we have a democratic culture. We had 154 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 2: fifty years of democracy in which Venezuela was an example 155 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 2: to the whole region. Secondly, we have a cohesive, united population. 156 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 2: We have no religious tensions of social or polinical and 157 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 2: is ninety percent of the population want the same I 158 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 2: mean we won by a landslide with seventy percent of 159 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: the vote a year ago. With you know, extreme fraudulent, 160 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 2: unfair conditions. Today, with three unfair conditions and elections, we 161 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: would win with over ninety percent of the vote shown. 162 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: And this is you know, a united country. We want 163 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 2: our children back home. We want to live in a 164 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 2: free country. We want justice and opportunities and to speak 165 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 2: out and live with dignities. And third, we have a 166 00:11:55,520 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 2: legitimized leadership that has you know, very strong support in 167 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 2: the population, including the armed forces. You know, recently, a 168 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: couple of months ago, a poll was carried out by 169 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: the top brand of the military within the Armed forces, 170 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 2: and over seventy percent said they supported me. They wouldn't 171 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: make that public, of course, but they didn't get the information, 172 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 2: leaked the information to us. So you know, there are 173 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 2: certain groups, yes, that are violent. We're seeing them operating 174 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: in the last hours surrounding Tratas. These gangs that are 175 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 2: armed and are threatening the people. They detained fourteen the 176 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: journalists yesterday. They have been threatening everyone who speaks out. 177 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 2: They stop people in the streets and they searched their phones. 178 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 2: Did they see a picture or the name of President 179 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:53,559 Speaker 2: Trump or my name, they would be detained. Yesterday they 180 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 2: issue an executive degree or it was published. Supposedly it 181 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: was signed by Madudo on sat. That day he was attained, 182 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 2: in which the executive decreases that anybody, anybody that supports 183 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: President Trump's actions will be immediately detained and that we disappeared. 184 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: So we are living very tough days. We do not 185 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: underestimate the capacity of these groups to promote instability, but 186 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 2: I want to be absolutely firmed in this. We have 187 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: the teams ready, we know what we need to do, 188 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 2: and with the you know, support of the US government 189 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: and President Trump, we will move into an orderly and 190 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:42,439 Speaker 2: sustainable transition to democracy in Venezuela. 191 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: With eighty six percent of Venezuelans living in poverty in 192 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,960 Speaker 1: what should be one of the richest countries on Earth. 193 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: I can only imagine that there is a sigh of 194 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: relief that Maduro is gone. But there are his you know, 195 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: loyal and holdovers and narco terres and trende ragua that 196 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: probably want to intimidate them, and their goal will be 197 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: very different. I'm going to take a break here, but 198 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: on the other side, if you can stay a few 199 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: more minutes, I want to talk about your return. I 200 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: want to talk about your safety upon your return, because 201 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I would imagine that there are enemies of yours that 202 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: do not want you to return. But anyway, we'll continue. 203 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,680 Speaker 1: We'll have more with the leader of Venezuela's Democratic Opposition, 204 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: Maria Carino Maschado on the other side. We'll get to 205 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: your calls coming up also eight hundred nine to four one, Shawn, 206 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: if you want to be a part of the program, 207 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: all right, we continue with Venezuelan's Democratic Opposition leader Maria 208 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: Carino Mushado is with us this, you know obviously now. 209 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 1: One are the things I admire the most about you, 210 00:14:54,280 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: and we've known you now for a long time, and 211 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: we're we're cheering for you, we're cheering for your country, 212 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: but I'm also worried about your safety and your security. Now, 213 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: what most people don't know is, even after Maduro did 214 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 1: all these horrible things to you, and you won the 215 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: primary with ninety two percent of the vote, and then 216 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: he took you off the ballot because he didn't want 217 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: to run against you, and that was in twenty twenty three, 218 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: you stayed in Venezuela and you stayed until you went 219 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: to receive the Nobel Peace Prize. You've not been back since, 220 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: and you're planning on going back. Do you have a plan, 221 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Do you have security forces that you know you can trust. 222 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to wake up one day or be 223 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: doing this radio show or my TV show and have 224 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: breaking news that God forbid something happens to you, because 225 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: I would imagine Maduro loyalist trende Aragua people and Narco 226 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: terrorists probably don't want you to return. 227 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 2: Well, certainly, certainly, and they have threatened me for many years, 228 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 2: and my family and my friends. I have my closest 229 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 2: colleagues in prison right now. It had people do not 230 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: understand the degree of terror Madudo and Delsi Rodriguez and 231 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: Josalo Caregio has put on our population. I mean, there 232 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 2: are over ninety detention centers. Many of them are you know, 233 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 2: hidden places, torture centers in which even young women have 234 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 2: been sexually assaulted and and and they have used them 235 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 2: in exchange for the possibility to take a bath or 236 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 2: to see their moms. Children have been detained, young teenagers 237 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 2: have tried to commit suicide in the last months because 238 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 2: they are human conditions. And so this is this is horrible. 239 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: We we know the risk we face, and that's why 240 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: we have insisted that the first step in any transition 241 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 2: has to be the liberation of the political prisoners. And 242 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 2: that's why I'm so grateful to President Trump. He mentioned 243 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: that today he insisted that the main torture center in Venezuela, 244 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: which is the biggest in Latin America, should be dismantled. 245 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 2: And that's that's a great message that believes me, Micheon. 246 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 2: It reaches our people in prison, It reaches their mothers, 247 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: their wives, their children. So we need to stop repression. 248 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: Any transition starts to dismantle the repression apparatus, which is 249 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 2: directed by Delsi Rodriguez, who is the person in power 250 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: right now. She's the architect of the older torture system. 251 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 2: She's the one who gives orders to you know, damage, kill, 252 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 2: disappeared innocent journalists, workers, housewives, students, teachers, nurses, nurses, just 253 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: because they have denounced the horrible situation of our hospitals. 254 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: So I want to thank President Trump. This is the 255 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: main step. Certainly, I realize there is huge risk in 256 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 2: going back to Venezuela, but I will go back as 257 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: soon as possible, as I As I told you before, 258 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 2: I believe my responsibility is to be where I'm more 259 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: useful to this cost. That's why I stayed in Plandesmity 260 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 2: hidden over sixteen months. That's why I decided to go 261 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 2: out of Venezuela with high risk as well, and that's 262 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: why to speak to the world, to be able to 263 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 2: speak with you as I'm speaking right now, to meet 264 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 2: people that are truly decisive or great alias champions of 265 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: this cost around the world, to see the Venezuana I 266 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: asked for, and also to meet to good people of 267 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: other nationalities that share our cost and understand what Venezuela 268 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: means not only for our nation, our people, but also 269 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 2: for other people in the America. Today, the United States 270 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 2: is a safer place, a safer country after what President 271 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 2: Trump did on Saturday, and this is something that history 272 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 2: will recognize. So we need to move forward. This means 273 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: we need to take risks. Yes, we're willing to do 274 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 2: what it takes. And I just want to tell you 275 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: how much I trust the Venezuelan people shown we have 276 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: proven courage, resilient discipline, and love profound love for family, 277 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: for children, for a country, and for freedom. And what 278 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: we are doing will have huge impact not only in 279 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 2: our country but in the whole Americas. And these are 280 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: decisive moments that require courage, ambition, and that's precisely what 281 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: President Trump has demonstrated. We've heard so many times that 282 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: it was impossible to get where we are. People told 283 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 2: me it's impossible to carry out a primary organized ideal society. 284 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:04,159 Speaker 2: It's impossible to defeat Maduro and in a presidential election, 285 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 2: you know, totally fraudulent. It's impossible to get him out 286 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 2: of the country and to make him face the justice. 287 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: And President Trump made it possible. So now when people 288 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: say it's impossible to carry out a peaceful transition, I 289 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 2: just say, wait and see. You will see Venezuelans and 290 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: President Trump doing what people said impossible, making it a reality. 291 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: Are you confident that you will have a large enough 292 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: loyal security entourage that can protect you upon your return 293 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:44,119 Speaker 1: to Venezuela, Because as I said, there's evil everywhere. I mean, 294 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: they tried to kill President Trump, not once but twice 295 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: here I know, I know. 296 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: And certainly in order to do that we need a 297 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:58,440 Speaker 2: support of the United States government. Certainly because it's a minority. 298 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 2: As I said. 299 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 3: Before this ore, you know gangs that have been highly 300 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 3: armed and financed by the regime repression apparatus by DeLisi Rodriguez. 301 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: And jos Alo Cavejo and others. Who are the ones 302 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 2: who direct these criminal groups, but is an absolute minority ones. 303 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 2: We liberate the armed forces. And I know this is 304 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 2: hard to understand, but the armed forces are also under repression, 305 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 2: are also persecuted. There are hundreds of military that have 306 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: been disappeared, tortured, and even killed because there are loyal 307 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 2: citizens to democracy and the constitution. But once we are 308 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 2: able to liberate the armed forces, we will be able 309 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: to dismantle these groups and take control progressively of allbans 310 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: own territory. We know what it has to be done. 311 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 2: We have the teams, we have the plans. We know 312 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 2: we will get great advice and support from our main allies, 313 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,439 Speaker 2: especially mainly the United States of America that understands the 314 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: great opportunity this means for the security of the hemisphere. 315 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 1: You said to me on television last night that you 316 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,840 Speaker 1: want to meet with President Trump and give him your 317 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize. I've never heard of that before. Do 318 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,359 Speaker 1: you have any plans to meet with the President, And 319 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,479 Speaker 1: hopefully I would assume that's going to happen. Are there 320 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: any plan scheduled now? And do you still plan on 321 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: giving him that Nobel Peace Prize? 322 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely. Look, we've gone so far because we have 323 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 2: stuck always to the truth, even when it's uncomfortable and 324 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 2: when it's not politically correct, but it is the truth 325 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 2: and it's just. And if there's someone who deserves to 326 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 2: get credit for what's going on in Venezuela right now 327 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,679 Speaker 2: is precisely President Trump. We wouldn't be here at the 328 00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: thirst hold of freedom if he hadn't made this courageous 329 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: and decisive action, a flowless operation, I have to say, impressive, historic, 330 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 2: and the Venisulan people that are the ones honored are 331 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 2: the ones who deserved to be recognized. Also share my 332 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 2: view that present from deserves to be honored because we 333 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 2: wouldn't be here if it wasn't for his decisive action. 334 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 2: And I not only look forward to being able to 335 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 2: tell him this personally, but I also look forward to 336 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 2: the moment in which I will host him in a 337 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 2: free Venezuela and he will hear from Venaissuans all around 338 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 2: the country how they, you know, recognize and how we 339 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 2: think what this has meant not only to change our history, 340 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 2: and we will see millions coming back to Venezuela. Imagine that, Sean. 341 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: They want to come back. They want to come back, 342 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 2: and we need them back. And these are people that 343 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 2: have you know, invested, studied, learn work or hard all 344 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 2: around the world. And hundreds of thousands are in the 345 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: United States. But they want to come back. So you know, 346 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: I always tell them. I used to stand at the 347 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 2: Semone Believer Bridge that is in the border with Columbia, 348 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: and I saw thousands living in tears. Now I'll be 349 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 2: standing there with my arms open bringing, you know, receiving 350 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: them back, welcoming them back to a luminous future. And 351 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 2: that will be thanks to what President Trump decided to 352 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 2: act and do. And history history will you know make 353 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: make justice as well. And and and those who didn't 354 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 2: act before for witness will face and we'll understand what 355 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:51,880 Speaker 2: you know, courage means. And also I went to insist 356 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: that once we live right, Venezuela, Cuba and Nika Agua 357 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: will follow the same path and for the first time 358 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 2: in history, we will have the hemispheared, the Americas, free 359 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: of communism, free of dictatorship, free of narco terrorism for 360 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 2: the first time in history. 361 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 1: I would be negligent if I didn't bring up that 362 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: you and a fellow opposition leader, Edmundo Gonzalez, you put 363 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:27,200 Speaker 1: out a statement to Lake and Riley's family and other 364 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 1: American families that have been impacted by vicious crimes by 365 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: the street gang Trenda Arragua, and that you promised to 366 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: offer reparations. And in a letter to Riley's family, you 367 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: said Lacan's life, full of potential and promise, was tragically 368 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: cut short by an individual who never should have been 369 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 1: allowed to cross your border. And you know, you said 370 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 1: this was a direct consequence of Nicholas Maduro's regime, which 371 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: fostered an environment where criminal organizations like Trenda Ragua can 372 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: flourish with impunity. I thought that was an extraordinarily powerful 373 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: letter and moment and recognition on your part. And you know, again, 374 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: the president rightly is very focused on getting the economy 375 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: of Venezuela up and running, because in lesson, until that happens, 376 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: people remain in poverty and starving and desperate and and 377 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: and desperate people sometimes do desperate things. And the quicker 378 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: that's accomplished, the better. 379 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,119 Speaker 2: It's going to be absolutely and the only way you 380 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 2: can dismantle these criminal groups is to have an approach 381 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,119 Speaker 2: from within the country and with the support of the 382 00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: information intelligence technology we get from our allies abroad. But 383 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 2: remember it wasn't Collahmaduro, it was Delta Rodriguez, it was 384 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 2: Josearo Cavejo. The ones who turned trend are from a 385 00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 2: local group into transnational network. That their intention was to 386 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 2: under you know, score the the institutions in the whole inmistry, 387 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 2: from the United States to Chile. I mean, the President 388 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 2: of Chile actually denounced Joco as being, you know, the 389 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,040 Speaker 2: intellectual author of the crime committed in Santiago, CHILESI the 390 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,879 Speaker 2: trend that out. So the proof is there. So you know, 391 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 2: we we we are felt so profoundly hurt with these 392 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 2: crimes that these individuals committed, and they will be brought 393 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 2: to justice. And we will be sure that anyone who 394 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: committed a crime against somebody abroad Venezuela, other nationality, but 395 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 2: also within Venezuela will face justice and we will bring 396 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 2: no order that that's the only way you can have 397 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 2: prosperity and peace. 398 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: Maria Corina Machado, leader of Venezuela's democratic opposition. I know 399 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: I speak for everyone in this audience. It is the 400 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: natural state of mankind to desire liberty and freedom, and 401 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: you are courageously fighting hard for that for the people 402 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: of Venezuela. This is a window of opportunity. It is perilous, 403 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,199 Speaker 1: it is dangerous, and your courage is inspiring. I know 404 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 1: I speak for so many. Our prayers, our love, our 405 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: support are with you, your country, your fellow country men, 406 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 1: and we pray for your safe return. And we look 407 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:31,399 Speaker 1: forward to hopefully interviewing you in Venezuela in the years 408 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: to come, as you now begin hopefully a new chapter 409 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 1: of prosperity for you and your people. That is our 410 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: prayer for you, that is our prayer for the people 411 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: of Venezuela. 412 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 2: Amen. Thank you, Sean. God bless you, God bless us all, 413 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: God bless America, God bless Venezuela, Godless President Trump. And 414 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll be able to host you in a Venezuela. 415 00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: Thank you very much, well, appreciate your time. Thank you 416 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: so much for being with us. All Right, that's gonna 417 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 1: wrap things up for today. We've got a great Hannity tonight. 418 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Nine Eastern on the Fox News Channel, Tim Scott, Lindsey Graham, 419 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: Mike Walls, also the son of the Shaw of Iran, 420 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: will join us as well. We also have Kevin Cork, 421 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: Comrade Deblasio defending well very strange policies of Commi Mamdani, 422 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: Tom Holman, Tommy Larren nine Eastern Tonight on Fox. See 423 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: you then back here tomorrow. Thank you for making this 424 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: show possible.