WEBVTT - Bloomberg Daybreak Weekend: Apple, Sunak, Japan

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bloomberg day Break Weekend, our global look at

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<v Speaker 1>tech stocks and focus again because of Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tom Busby in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Caroline Hepkee here in London, where we're looking ahead

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<v Speaker 2>to Rishisu Nak's first White House visit as Prime Minister.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm Brian Curtis in Hong Kong. Capex is jumping in Japan.

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<v Speaker 3>The tourists are coming in, but all is not well.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm Kaylee Lyons in Washington, where we're gearing up for

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<v Speaker 4>two new entrants in the race for the Republican nomination

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Good day to you. I'm Tom Busby, and we begin

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<v Speaker 1>today's program with Apple's upcoming Worldwide Developers Conference at it's

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<v Speaker 1>Cooper Tino, California headquarters. And this one could be a

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<v Speaker 1>very important one for Apple executives and Apple investors. And

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<v Speaker 1>joining me to talk about why is Bloomberg's Mark German

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<v Speaker 1>our report around all things Apple. Mark, Thanks for joining us, Thanks.

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<v Speaker 6>For having me. Yeah, this is certainly probably going to

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<v Speaker 6>be Apple's biggest launch event in the last decade, certainly

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<v Speaker 6>since the Apple Watch was announced in twenty fourteen. This

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<v Speaker 6>is their annual developer conference, typically software focused, this time

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<v Speaker 6>first major new products in a decade, major software updates

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<v Speaker 6>across the board, as well as new max Well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a laundry list of new things, but let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with what I think will garner the biggest headlines. That

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<v Speaker 1>mixed reality headset, the first major new product category since

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<v Speaker 1>the Watch right almost a decade.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, that's certainly going to be the entree, so to speak,

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<v Speaker 6>of the launch and the focus of Apple for the

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<v Speaker 6>foreseeable future. This is Apple trying to create an XR

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<v Speaker 6>or a mixed reality market. The device is going to

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<v Speaker 6>be the most premium, high end and powerful headset on

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<v Speaker 6>the market. It's going to cost roughly three thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 6>Apple is not going to be profiting off this thing.

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<v Speaker 6>That's how expensive the technologies that go into it are.

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<v Speaker 6>It's going to use metal, carbon, fiber, and glass. You're

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<v Speaker 6>going to be able to do everything you would do

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<v Speaker 6>in a Mac but in a virtual three D space.

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<v Speaker 6>You're going to be able to move in between a

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<v Speaker 6>virtual reality world in an augmented reality world, which means

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<v Speaker 6>at one point you could be fully enclosed you see

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<v Speaker 6>nothing but the content in front of you. At other points,

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<v Speaker 6>you'll flick a dial on the top right of the headset,

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<v Speaker 6>similar to the dial on the side of the Apple Watch.

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<v Speaker 6>It'll turn on these powerful cameras. There's about a dozen

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<v Speaker 6>of them outside, and you'll essentially see what's in front

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<v Speaker 6>of you, just like you're wearing normal glasses or wearing

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<v Speaker 6>nothing on your face. You'll be able to do productivity, messaging, gaming,

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<v Speaker 6>a virtual reac version of FaceTime. So it's going to

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<v Speaker 6>be pretty wide ranging, and this is Apple's big entry

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<v Speaker 6>into the space.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, a sidebar before we continue on Apple is just

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<v Speaker 1>this past week Meta announcing a five hundred dollars mixed

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<v Speaker 1>reality headset. So trying to take some thunder away from.

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<v Speaker 7>Apple, do you think certainly?

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<v Speaker 6>I've used the Quest three, and at five hundred dollars,

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<v Speaker 6>it's going to be about a fifth at the price

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<v Speaker 6>of Apple's product, but I think it's more than a

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<v Speaker 6>fifth as good. I think it's quite impressive. The video

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<v Speaker 6>pass through mode they're going to be using on this device.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not going to be as good as Apples, but

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<v Speaker 6>it's much better than the existing Meta headset, the Quest

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<v Speaker 6>two in the market that launched a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 6>So I certainly think what you're seeing here is a

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<v Speaker 6>potential rematch between Apple and another player instead of Google.

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<v Speaker 6>This time it's Meta in terms of Apple wanting to

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<v Speaker 6>own the high end of the market and Meta owning

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<v Speaker 6>the loan in the market, just like Apple owns high

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<v Speaker 6>end of the phone market and Google owns the low end.

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<v Speaker 6>Apple and the high end of the XR market Metal

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<v Speaker 6>on the low end, and so Meta's really replaced Google

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<v Speaker 6>as the one at the frontier here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and when worlds collide, Well, let's go back to

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<v Speaker 1>some of the other exciting new products and updates that

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<v Speaker 1>Apple we think Apple is going to have, And let's

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<v Speaker 1>start with the new XROS operating system, so.

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<v Speaker 6>That XROS operating system is a version of iOS that

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<v Speaker 6>is going to run on this mixed reality headset. So

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<v Speaker 6>they've created a whole new operating system. They're pushing for

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<v Speaker 6>a whole new app store and an app ecosystem to

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<v Speaker 6>run on the setset.

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<v Speaker 1>And continuing on operating systems, there's a new iOS seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>an iPad OS seventeen, and a macOS fourteen.

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<v Speaker 6>So macOS fourteen that's going to be the new software

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<v Speaker 6>update that runs on the Mac. Right not expecting major

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<v Speaker 6>changes there. iPad OS seventeen you'll see some minor improvements

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<v Speaker 6>the multitasking. You'll also see the health app on the

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<v Speaker 6>iPad for the first time. iOS seventeen you'll see a

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<v Speaker 6>new journaling app so you can journal different locations you're

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<v Speaker 6>at or different activities are doing and share it with friends.

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<v Speaker 6>There'll be updates to the wallet app on the device

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<v Speaker 6>as well, in a new smart home feature that can

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<v Speaker 6>turn the iPhone if you rotate it and put it

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<v Speaker 6>in lock mode, into a smart home display so to speak.

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<v Speaker 6>So quite a few little enhancements across the board on

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<v Speaker 6>the iPhone and the iPad and the Mac as well,

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<v Speaker 6>and then you'll also see Watch OS ten that's going

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<v Speaker 6>to be a pretty big update to the Apple Watch software,

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<v Speaker 6>will bring widgets to the forefront of the operating system.

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<v Speaker 6>I think that will be pretty interesting to consumers as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And as for hardware, not just the mixed reality headset,

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<v Speaker 1>but also new MacBooks.

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<v Speaker 6>There's going to be multiple new Macs. I'm expecting a

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<v Speaker 6>new version of the MacBook Air, a fifteen inch MacBook

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<v Speaker 6>Air with an M two chip, so it'll operate similarly

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<v Speaker 6>and look the same as the thirteen inch Air introduced

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<v Speaker 6>last year at WWDC, but obviously it'll be bigger with

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<v Speaker 6>that bigger fifteen inch panel. That's something that people have

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<v Speaker 6>been clamoring for for over a decade, and so Apple

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<v Speaker 6>is going to be delivering there. They'll also see the

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<v Speaker 6>company's first M two Ultra chip. That's an extremely high

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<v Speaker 6>end chip with up to seventy six graphics scores, essentially

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<v Speaker 6>ten x what you're getting on a low end Mac

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<v Speaker 6>right a low in MacBook Air, and that machine will

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<v Speaker 6>be its highest performing chip for machines like the Mac

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<v Speaker 6>Studio and potentially the Mac Pro. So really something for

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<v Speaker 6>everyone across the board at this launch.

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<v Speaker 5>Wow. Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, and preceding this week's upcoming conference, last week, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>announced the plans for its retail stores and a big expansion.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you tell us more about that?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, so Apple actually didn't announce these stores. We're reporting

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<v Speaker 6>on these stores based on my insight sources. Apple is

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<v Speaker 6>proposing or working on or developing over fifty new stores

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<v Speaker 6>for opening across the next four years, including new stores

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<v Speaker 6>in China, India, stores in Detroit and Miami, new store

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<v Speaker 6>in southern California and Orange County, and upgrade to its

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<v Speaker 6>Opera store in Paris that's a very famous shopping district.

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<v Speaker 6>New stores in Canada, across Europe, a new store in

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<v Speaker 6>Abu Dhabi, a relocated store in Perth, Australia. So really

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<v Speaker 6>an across the board expansion on the retail segment.

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<v Speaker 5>Got it? Got it? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Now let's talk a little bit. Let's shift gears talk

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<v Speaker 1>about artificial intelligence chat GPT, the latest technological tool for

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<v Speaker 1>so many companies, so many consumers. AI getting Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>excited too, and Apple CEO Tim Cook says it has

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<v Speaker 1>its risks, but Apple is all in on artificial intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go a listen.

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<v Speaker 8>I do think it's very important to be delivered and

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<v Speaker 8>thoughtful in how you approach these things. And there's a

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<v Speaker 8>number of issues that need to be sorted, as is

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<v Speaker 8>being talked about in a number of different places. But

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<v Speaker 8>the potential is certainly very interesting. And we've obviously made

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<v Speaker 8>enormous progress integrating AI and machine learning throughout our ecosystem,

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<v Speaker 8>and we've weaved it into products and features for many years.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on what we heard Tim Cook say last week,

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<v Speaker 1>how does AI fit into Apple's future?

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<v Speaker 3>Mark?

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I think AI or applied AI as a

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<v Speaker 6>call it is very key to the company's future. I

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<v Speaker 6>think this is certainly something that they're trying to implement

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<v Speaker 6>across their product lines, from taking a picture to using

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<v Speaker 6>handwa washed detection on the watch, to using some of

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<v Speaker 6>the health features on the iPhone and the iPad. Right,

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<v Speaker 6>But I don't think that we're to expect a major

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<v Speaker 6>chat GPT like product from Apple or an overhaul of

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<v Speaker 6>Siri this year. I think that's something that's probably going

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<v Speaker 6>to come next year or the year after at the earliest.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, all the things we talked about today that looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to this coming week, let's talk about Apple's big

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<v Speaker 1>money maker, the iPhone, and what does all this mean

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<v Speaker 1>for the iPhone? Is it you know? Is it moving

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<v Speaker 1>it forward? Are we expecting more from the iPhone this

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<v Speaker 1>year or soon?

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<v Speaker 6>So there'll be a pretty big iPhone hardware update in

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<v Speaker 6>the fall. That's the iPhone fifteen line one. Big change there.

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<v Speaker 6>On the pro models, they're going to be moving from

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<v Speaker 6>a stainless steel and glass frame to more of a

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<v Speaker 6>titanium frame, which I think is going to be quite interesting,

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<v Speaker 6>make the phone a little bit more durable, potentially make

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<v Speaker 6>it lighter as well, and so I think that new

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<v Speaker 6>design is something people are going to be looking forward to.

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<v Speaker 6>On the highest end model with the biggest screen, you're

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<v Speaker 6>going to have what is known as a periscope camera.

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<v Speaker 6>What that is going to do is allow the camera

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<v Speaker 6>to have a wider range of zoom, but optical zoom,

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<v Speaker 6>which means that the camera itself, the scope is actually

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<v Speaker 6>longer and twisted in the frame, and that actually can

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<v Speaker 6>get a much more detailed picture than the digital zoom

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<v Speaker 6>that the iPhone on other phones today really rely on

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<v Speaker 6>for that wide range of zoom. So big change is there.

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<v Speaker 6>And then on the lower end iPhones, they're going to

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<v Speaker 6>add the dynamic island, which is that new pill shape

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<v Speaker 6>at the top where you can control some of your alerts, identifications,

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<v Speaker 6>and your music and maps. On the high end iPhones today,

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<v Speaker 6>that'll be coming down the line, as well as some

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<v Speaker 6>of the camera upgrades that you saw on the high

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<v Speaker 6>end iPhones last year coming down the range as well.

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<v Speaker 6>And also on the high end phones, you'll see a

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<v Speaker 6>faster processor that'll be like the A seventeen processor, whereas

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<v Speaker 6>the lower niphones will get last year's pro processor. So

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<v Speaker 6>that's going to be a year of a year upgrade

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<v Speaker 6>as well.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a lot to look forward to this week

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<v Speaker 1>and in the near future. And thank you Mark. That

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<v Speaker 1>was Bloomberg's Apple reporter Mark German. And coming up on

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg day Break weekend, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak's big visit.

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<v Speaker 7>To the US.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tom buzby you and this is Bloomberg. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Bloomberg day Break weekend, our globalk ahead of the top

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<v Speaker 1>stories for investors in the coming week. I'm Tom Busby

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. Up later in our program, a growing

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<v Speaker 1>number of Republicans challenging former President Trump's reelection efforts. But first,

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<v Speaker 1>the British Prime Minister gets his first White House meeting

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<v Speaker 1>with President Biden in the coming week, and for more,

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<v Speaker 1>let's head to London and bring in Bloomberg Daybreak europe

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<v Speaker 1>Banker Caroline Hepger Tom Rischie.

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<v Speaker 2>Sunak will travel to Washington for talks aimed at enhancing

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<v Speaker 2>cooperation and coordination between the UK and US on the

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<v Speaker 2>economic challenges that will define our future, so we're told,

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<v Speaker 2>and Bloomberg's UK Government editor Alex Morales will be on

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<v Speaker 2>the plane with the PM.

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<v Speaker 9>He joins me. Now, so Sunak's.

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<v Speaker 2>Visit to the States, I mean it's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>deliver this long touted, hope for but unlikely trade deal

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<v Speaker 2>between the UK and US.

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<v Speaker 10>Well in a short answer, No, I mean, first of all,

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<v Speaker 10>it's important to say it's his first visit to the

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<v Speaker 10>White House as Prime Minister. I mean he's met Joe

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<v Speaker 10>Biden a number of times already. I think the first

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<v Speaker 10>time was back in Bali at the G twenty, but

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<v Speaker 10>he also met in San Diego earlier in this year

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<v Speaker 10>for the Big Orchest deal, and then more recently in

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<v Speaker 10>Northern Ireland. And I guess they would have also spoken

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<v Speaker 10>at Hiroshima, but there was no official Bilab that's the

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<v Speaker 10>g Sevon meeting in May. But yes, he's visiting to

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<v Speaker 10>the White House. Number ten have been pretty clear they're

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<v Speaker 10>not going to bring up the topic of a trade deal,

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<v Speaker 10>and that's largely because the Biden administration has really made

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<v Speaker 10>it pretty clear that it's not a priority for them. No.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, I mean the UK has tried to secure these

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<v Speaker 2>deals with individual states which have you know, sort of

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<v Speaker 2>tried to ramp up ties between the UK and the

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<v Speaker 2>US on that basis. I mean, it's interesting, isn't it

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<v Speaker 2>that this will be the first White House visit And

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned north in Ireland. I mean, that was the

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<v Speaker 2>last time that we saw President Biden here. He was

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<v Speaker 2>in northern Ireland and in the Republic of Ireland. Is

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<v Speaker 2>there still friction do you think on that issue?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, the White House pushed back against the notion that

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<v Speaker 10>Biden doesn't really like Britain. But what was fairly clear

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<v Speaker 10>from his visit is that when it comes to there's

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<v Speaker 10>a lot of warmth towards Ireland and much less warmth

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<v Speaker 10>towards the United Kingdom from the President. And that even

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<v Speaker 10>became clearer when he returned and he gave a briefing

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<v Speaker 10>and it sort of surfaced in the transcript. He'd said

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<v Speaker 10>he'd had to come over here to make sure the

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<v Speaker 10>Brits didn't screw around in Northern Ireland. So really, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>he likes to pick up his Irish heritage, and he

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<v Speaker 10>tried to flick a bit at his British heritage when

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<v Speaker 10>he was in Northern Ireland, and he had some English

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<v Speaker 10>heritage as well that he sort of emphasized, and that

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<v Speaker 10>was sort of a bone to the Brits who think

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<v Speaker 10>that maybe he doesn't quite like us very much. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 10>there seems to be a little bit of friction.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So that kind of point perhaps still of some contention.

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<v Speaker 2>How does the UK then respond to the Inflation Reduction Act?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think that that is something that is going

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<v Speaker 2>to come up in these talks that are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be about kind of economics and about policy and about

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the relationship between the US and the UK.

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<v Speaker 2>The Inflation Reduction Act is simply huge in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>the subsidies that gives businesses to move, you know, towards

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<v Speaker 2>that energy and green transition. What do you think Sunac's

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<v Speaker 2>message is going to be on that?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, I'm sure so what wants to make sure that

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, as you said, it's a huge package, is

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<v Speaker 10>what three hundred and sixty nine billion dollars of subsidies

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<v Speaker 10>and tax breaks and just to sort of wind back.

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<v Speaker 10>The big concern amongst British companies is that it's just

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<v Speaker 10>it attracts investment to the United States that would otherwise

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<v Speaker 10>have gone to Britain. So you know there's been some

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<v Speaker 10>concern amongst ministers. When he was Business actually back in January,

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<v Speaker 10>Grant Shapps called it dangerous and Jeremy Hunt has said

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<v Speaker 10>that while he doesn't who's the chancellor obviously has said

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<v Speaker 10>that while he doesn't want to a subsidy race, he's

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<v Speaker 10>sort of hinted in recent weeks that the UK is

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<v Speaker 10>actually looking at some sort of subsidy response. I think

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<v Speaker 10>his exact words with subsidies have a role and that

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<v Speaker 10>Britain will make sure that we remain competitive. And he's

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<v Speaker 10>promised the UK response to both the US measures and

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<v Speaker 10>let's not forget that the EU launched a package of

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<v Speaker 10>messages sort of to counter the US effect. He's promised

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<v Speaker 10>a response by the full because obviously the danger is

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<v Speaker 10>that the UK ends up getting squeezed between these two

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<v Speaker 10>big powers and losing out on investment in both directions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, on the foreign policy points, then Ukraine, Russia, China,

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<v Speaker 2>and the UK has been close to the US in

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<v Speaker 2>the support for Ukraine in terms of, you know, giving

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<v Speaker 2>weapons to Vladimir Zelenski. How do you think that the

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<v Speaker 2>discussions will be handled in terms of moving forwards when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the war in Europe? But also the

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<v Speaker 2>US is rhetoric increasingly tough rhetoric and actions against China.

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<v Speaker 10>Well. On Ukraine, I mean, it's almost arguable that the

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<v Speaker 10>UK has been ahead of the US and we were

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<v Speaker 10>the first country to provide main battle tanks to Ukraine,

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<v Speaker 10>and I think when now the country that's provided the

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<v Speaker 10>longest range missiles.

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<v Speaker 5>To the US.

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<v Speaker 10>But I think largely the two countries are in lockstep

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<v Speaker 10>on that, and certainly Biden's been very supportive of Ukraine

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<v Speaker 10>in a way that perhaps this publican predecessor might not

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<v Speaker 10>have been. And on China again, I think I think

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<v Speaker 10>there's a sort of similarity in the language. Both both

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<v Speaker 10>countries are wary that China is a very important economic

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<v Speaker 10>character and that they need to maintain an economic relationship

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<v Speaker 10>with China, but they're also wary of China's growing sort

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<v Speaker 10>of nationalism and the danger it poses in the Indo Pacific,

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<v Speaker 10>and perhaps the visit that Sunak made to the US

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<v Speaker 10>earlier this year to San Diego, where the US, the

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<v Speaker 10>UK and Australia sort of fleshed out the details behind

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<v Speaker 10>their orchest packs. That's that's an indication of how seriously

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<v Speaker 10>they hit the China threat. It's sort of a big,

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<v Speaker 10>multi billion dollar plan for a new feat feet of

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<v Speaker 10>nuclear powered submarines to patrol that that region.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely, and the White House has pointed to this

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<v Speaker 2>as an area for discussion, you know, reviewing a range

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<v Speaker 2>of global issues, is how they put it.

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<v Speaker 9>I wonder whether.

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<v Speaker 2>There are areas for photo ops but also slip ups.

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<v Speaker 2>That's always something that we are kind of keenly aware of.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it is a big, big moment, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna arrive on the seventh of June, then he'll

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<v Speaker 2>be in the White House the following day, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he's meant to also be meeting congressional leaders.

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<v Speaker 9>You're going to be on the plane with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you think there'll be a chance to ask him

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<v Speaker 2>some questions, to pose some questions to Rishie Sunak. Are

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<v Speaker 2>there any kind of he's under pressure politically at home? Surely,

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<v Speaker 2>isn't he on quite a number of fronts?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I mean certainly. I mean what we don't know

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<v Speaker 10>is if there's going to be a press converty yet.

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<v Speaker 10>But on the plane the Prime Minister will normally come

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<v Speaker 10>back and speaking what's called a huddle. I think the

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<v Speaker 10>photos and our legendary, so you know, each reporter will

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<v Speaker 10>get probably one question to the Prime Minister and then

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<v Speaker 10>you know we'll ask him about a range of issues

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<v Speaker 10>and it won't just be about the US visit. So

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<v Speaker 10>I guess there's the chance that he says something on

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<v Speaker 10>the plane referring to its domestic issues that you know

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<v Speaker 10>that are that are preoccupying the British media at the moment.

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<v Speaker 10>In terms of in terms of potential for embarrassment, I mean,

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<v Speaker 10>Richie sec is a pretty assured operator. It's it would

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<v Speaker 10>be unusual for him to misspeak. But you know, on

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<v Speaker 10>on on any international trip, there's the potential for something.

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<v Speaker 2>To get wrong, yeah, or something to peque our interests.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you'll be there with your question for the PM.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh and Alex thank you so much for being with us.

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<v Speaker 2>Bloomberg's UK Government editor Alex Morales, of course, who will

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<v Speaker 2>be in Washington, DC and following the movements of the

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<v Speaker 2>British Prime Minister Richie Sunac on his visit at State Side.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom, we look at some of the cross currents in

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<v Speaker 3>the Japanese economy as we look forward to the next

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<v Speaker 3>reading on GDP. Good time to talk about the Japanese

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<v Speaker 3>economy now. Japan's businesses increased spending for the fourth straight quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a sign of the country's recovery from the pandemic. However,

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<v Speaker 3>a surprise drop in industrial production does suggest a week's

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<v Speaker 3>start to the second quarter, and it raises the risk

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<v Speaker 3>that the bounce in GDP that we saw in the

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<v Speaker 3>first quarter could lose some vigor in the second quarter.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul Jackson, Bloomberg's Japan, Korea Economy and Government editor for Asia,

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<v Speaker 3>joins us So.

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<v Speaker 9>Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>We note that the capex number was pretty strong, up

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<v Speaker 3>eleven percent year on year, but the factory output number disappointing.

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<v Speaker 3>What are we expecting for this next reading on GDP

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<v Speaker 3>in the coming week.

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<v Speaker 12>First of all, we've the reading all first quarter GDP

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<v Speaker 12>should still be a positive. I think we should see

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<v Speaker 12>signs that there is this moderate recovery coming through, helped

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<v Speaker 12>and driven by this influx of foreign tourists coming in

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<v Speaker 12>and continued consumer spending, lifting of more pandemic measures. And

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<v Speaker 12>this capex figure shows that companies are still optimistic and

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<v Speaker 12>buoyant that the recovery will continue for now. And of

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<v Speaker 12>course they need to invest in more equipment because they've

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<v Speaker 12>got this labor shortage within the country and now with

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<v Speaker 12>all these people you know, flooding back to visit Japan,

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<v Speaker 12>especially in the service sector, they need to ramp up

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<v Speaker 12>investment so that they can deal with more people. So

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<v Speaker 12>I think that when we get the revised GDP figures

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<v Speaker 12>through next week, they should still be positive and appointing

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<v Speaker 12>to the moderate recovery. Now where we go from here,

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<v Speaker 12>As you've noticed those production figures for the start of

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<v Speaker 12>the second quarter were disappointing. We do have some dark

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<v Speaker 12>clouds on the horizon. And another thing to look at

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<v Speaker 12>is those poor figures that came out of China yesterday

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<v Speaker 12>showing that the recovery there isn't panning out in the

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<v Speaker 12>way people had hoped. So there are dark clouds, but

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<v Speaker 12>it's still a pretty good environment for Prime Minister Forumyo

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<v Speaker 12>Kishida to even consider an early election.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was curious about to what degree Japan could

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<v Speaker 3>be benefiting from some of the weakness that we've seen

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<v Speaker 3>in China. I mean, on the one hand, obviously a

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<v Speaker 3>week China is not good for Japanese exports to the country. However,

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of attracting investment and travelers, and you already

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned that inbound tourism is doing pretty well. In a sense,

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<v Speaker 3>is Japan benefiting from some of China's troubles, I think.

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<v Speaker 12>On the whole, if you look at it, net, I

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<v Speaker 12>think it is a minus because, like most of the world,

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<v Speaker 12>were very dependent on China as a market and as

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<v Speaker 12>a producer in terms of the inbound actually the biggest

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<v Speaker 12>spenders in Japan are from China. So some economists are saying, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 12>you know the moment, we've got a great boost to

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<v Speaker 12>Japan's economy from the inbound spending, and we still don't

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<v Speaker 12>have the Chinese tourists coming back yet. They will eventually

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<v Speaker 12>start coming, and that will be another driver for Japan.

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<v Speaker 12>So in that sense, some of the positives from China's

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<v Speaker 12>situation have yet to feed in.

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<v Speaker 3>So China's a big challenge, and you mentioned that there

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<v Speaker 3>are plenty of challenges. What else.

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<v Speaker 12>Inflation is by international standards not that high, just above

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<v Speaker 12>three percent in Japan, but that's kind of historically high

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<v Speaker 12>for Japan, the post abode of deflation and falling prices,

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<v Speaker 12>so you know, at some point economists are expecting the

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<v Speaker 12>kind of post pandemic spending splurge. To then segue into

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<v Speaker 12>wait a minute, you know, real wages are falling, prices

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<v Speaker 12>are going up, We've actually got less spending power, and

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<v Speaker 12>that you know, spending, consumer spending in real terms might

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<v Speaker 12>start to fall and then weigh on the economy. That's

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<v Speaker 12>obviously a concern for both the Prime Minister and for

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<v Speaker 12>the Bank of Japan. Bank of Japan has been trying

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<v Speaker 12>to generate stable inflation for more than a decade. You

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<v Speaker 12>would think they've achieved the mission over three percent, right,

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<v Speaker 12>because their targets two percent, But they're still sticking to

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<v Speaker 12>this view that what we've got here is a cost

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<v Speaker 12>push kind of transitory inflation phenomenon. The rest of the

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<v Speaker 12>world thinks otherwise. But in Japan, they're looking for more

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<v Speaker 12>sign of stronger wage growth that could support some kind

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<v Speaker 12>of demand driven inflation over a longer period of time,

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<v Speaker 12>and that has been the long term goal of Japanese policymakers.

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<v Speaker 3>And the week end is a double edged sword. It's

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<v Speaker 3>good for Japanese businesses and I'm sure they are quite

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<v Speaker 3>comfortable with the yen at one thirty nine. However, it

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<v Speaker 3>does make imports and prices for the average Japanese consumer

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<v Speaker 3>very difficult. How does that weigh up when you talk

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<v Speaker 3>to people.

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<v Speaker 12>In Japan, Well, I think if you go back to

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<v Speaker 12>last year when we had the very quick slide in

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<v Speaker 12>the end down to as tho as one five to

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<v Speaker 12>two against the dollar, I think there was kind of

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<v Speaker 12>sense of panic, and combined with the sudden surge in

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<v Speaker 12>prices and import prices, there was a lot of concern.

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<v Speaker 12>And obviously for those you know, globally orientated companies or

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<v Speaker 12>the exporters, this is great. This is a kind of

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<v Speaker 12>instant profit margin boost if the currency is week so

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<v Speaker 12>at the moment where the currency is, those global companies

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<v Speaker 12>and outward facing companies are in a good position. The

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<v Speaker 12>domestic companies especially those that import materials and produce for

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<v Speaker 12>a domestic market. It's more of a squeeze for them.

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<v Speaker 12>But hey, look at the stock market. We are at

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<v Speaker 12>the highs highest level since since nineteen ninety, and that

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<v Speaker 12>suggests that company profits are benefiting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm curious about the third arrow of abinomics reform, and

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<v Speaker 3>I want to know, you know, across the economy, women

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<v Speaker 3>in more powerful positions and playing a bigger role in

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<v Speaker 3>the economy, and so many of the aspects of reform,

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<v Speaker 3>corporate reform, how much progress has been made.

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<v Speaker 5>Well.

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<v Speaker 12>I think this is kind of one of the unfin

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<v Speaker 12>unfinished targets of abinomics. The growth program that was launched

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<v Speaker 12>in twenty thirteen, so a decade ago. We had flexible

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<v Speaker 12>fiscal spending, aggressive monetary policy. All helped to give a

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<v Speaker 12>new burst of life into Japan's economy some time. But

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<v Speaker 12>this third arrow in the quiver of that growth strategy

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<v Speaker 12>didn't really get a great deal of traction. We have

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<v Speaker 12>seen some reforms on corporate governance, We have seen some

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<v Speaker 12>progress there. The thing is is obviously Sins. The former

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<v Speaker 12>Prime minister who stepped down and was then assassinated, is

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<v Speaker 12>no longer in power, and his faction has less sway

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<v Speaker 12>over what might be the primeister might be doing. Under

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<v Speaker 12>from Kishida, he's been emphasizing the idea of new capitalism.

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<v Speaker 12>It's kind of like a new deal for how we

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<v Speaker 12>run things and what is acceptable for companies. One of

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<v Speaker 12>the key things he's been focusing on is the idea

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<v Speaker 12>that needs to be kind of rethink of the distribution

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<v Speaker 12>of income. Maybe shareholders should get a little bit less

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<v Speaker 12>focus after under Abbe premise to Abbe getting a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of attention. Maybe your average worker should get a bit

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<v Speaker 12>more in their pay packet. That's the kind of message

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<v Speaker 12>that would feeding well to an electorate that is struggling

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<v Speaker 12>with inflation at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul, thank you very much for joining us. Paul Jackson,

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Japan Economy and Government Editor for Asia. I'm Brian Curtis,

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<v Speaker 3>along with Doug Krisner. You can catch us every weekday

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<v Speaker 3>here for Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, beginning at six am in

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<v Speaker 3>Hong Kong and six pm on Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom, thank you, Brian, and coming up here on Bloomberg

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<v Speaker 1>day Break weekend. More Republicans are challenging former President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>re election dreams. I'm Tom Busby And this is Bloomberg.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bloomberg day Break weekend, our global look ahead

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<v Speaker 1>at the top stories for investors in the coming week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Tom Busby in New York. Some big announcements expected

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<v Speaker 1>this week in the Republican race to be the party's

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<v Speaker 1>nominee in twenty twenty four. And for more, let's head

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<v Speaker 1>and Bloomberg Sound On co host Kaylee Lines.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Tom, the Republican primary field is about to get

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<v Speaker 4>even bigger week. At least two more candidates are set

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<v Speaker 4>to formally throw their hats in the ring for the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty twenty four GOP nomination. The first we'll come on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 4>when former New Jersey Governor Chris Christy is set to

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<v Speaker 4>announce at a town hall in New Hampshire. And then

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<v Speaker 4>just one day after, on Wednesday, the announcement will come

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<v Speaker 4>from former Vice President Mike Pence, who will do it

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<v Speaker 4>from Iowa. Joining me now to look ahead to both

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<v Speaker 4>of these events is Gregory Cordy, who covers US politics

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<v Speaker 4>for US here at Bloomberg. So, Gregory, if we could

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<v Speaker 4>just start with Chris Christy, because he goes first. He's

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<v Speaker 4>tried this before in twenty sixteen, and that was unsuccessful,

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<v Speaker 4>as we know, why does he think he could beat

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<v Speaker 4>Trump this time around?

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Chris Christy is the first of Donald Trump's twenty

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<v Speaker 7>sixteen rivals to re enter the fray, and he kind

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<v Speaker 7>of harkens back to a Republican party that's pre Trump,

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit more establishment. But as you point out,

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<v Speaker 7>the party has changed quite a bit. It's become Trump's

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<v Speaker 7>Republican Party. And so that's going to be the challenge

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<v Speaker 7>for Chris Christy to appeal to those voters as someone

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<v Speaker 7>who is anti Trump. He would be quick to point

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<v Speaker 7>out that he's not never Trump. He was on board

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<v Speaker 7>with Trump in twenty sixteen. He dropped out of the

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<v Speaker 7>race after New Hampshire endorsed Trump. Was chairman of Trump's

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<v Speaker 7>Transition Committee, helped Trump with debates, chaired his Opioid Commission,

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<v Speaker 7>and was pretty much on board through almost all of

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<v Speaker 7>the Trump administration until after Trump refused to concede. So

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<v Speaker 7>Chris Christie's theory of the case is that he's the

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<v Speaker 7>one guy who can debate Trump. He prepared Trump for

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<v Speaker 7>debates against Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden, he's debated Trump

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<v Speaker 7>in the twenty sixteen debates. He knows Trump as a

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<v Speaker 7>debater better than anybody else who will get on that

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<v Speaker 7>stage when the Republicans have their first debate in August

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<v Speaker 7>and Milwaukee, and so he's counting on being able to

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<v Speaker 7>deliver some kind of knockout punch, he says. The other

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<v Speaker 7>opponents in the race, the other challengers to Trump, have

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<v Speaker 7>been sort of a little bit too delicate in how

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<v Speaker 7>they deal with Trump. He he says, he can engage

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<v Speaker 7>Trump head on and maybe knock him off his perch.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, it's gonna be a big challenge because the

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<v Speaker 7>lead that Trump has right now is just so far

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<v Speaker 7>ahead of all the competition. It's going to take some

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<v Speaker 7>doing to get Trump down off that perch.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, and of course, another person who is going to

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<v Speaker 4>run against Trump is a man who served him as

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<v Speaker 4>Vice president, Mike Pence. Does that just make him a

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<v Speaker 4>villain to Trump's base that he has such a tight

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<v Speaker 4>hold on.

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<v Speaker 7>Still, Yeah, that's the problem that a lot of Republicans

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<v Speaker 7>have is how to go after Trump without alienating Trump's base,

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<v Speaker 7>And Mike Pence has a particular problem with that since

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<v Speaker 7>to the more extreme members of the Trump base. The

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<v Speaker 7>people who marched on the Capitol on January sixth, they

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<v Speaker 7>were chanting, hang Mike Pence, and former President Trump has

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<v Speaker 7>done very little to disabuse people of the notion that

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<v Speaker 7>Mike Pence is a traitor to their cause. So that's

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<v Speaker 7>a challenge that I think Mike Pen's acknowlogist that he's

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<v Speaker 7>going to have to appeal to that part of the

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<v Speaker 7>Republican Party on these constitutional principles. He was bound by

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<v Speaker 7>the Constitution to do what he did in helping to

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<v Speaker 7>certify Joe Biden's win in the electoral College. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>that's the challenge that not just Pence and Christy, but

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<v Speaker 7>every Republican has, is how to deal with that Trump problem.

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<v Speaker 4>It's going to be a long primary season, and I

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<v Speaker 4>trust you'll have it covered for us. Thank you so

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<v Speaker 4>much to Gregory Cordy, who covers US politics for us

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<v Speaker 4>here at Bloomberg and Tom I'll send it back to you.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Kaylee. That was Bloomberg Sound On co host Kaylee Lines

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