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Speaker 1: Here we go, Final hour, Urban Myers around the Corner

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Speaker 1: Man Niners tonight, I'm rolling with the Niners, God Blazing five.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys are doing on Friday.

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Speaker 1: You may want to drop by the Old radio TV show. Seriously,

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Speaker 1: we need another fire extinguis sure in this room till hot? Wait?

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Speaker 3: So, coward, are you doing picks for this week on

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Speaker 3: Wednesday or Friday? Because there's three games on Christmas Day?

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Speaker 1: Will you include those in the past? Let me think

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Speaker 1: about it. Okay, let me think about it.

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Speaker 3: I hope I can play by those rules as well

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Speaker 3: for headlines because I'm looking, I'm like, I don't know

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Speaker 3: if I can get picks by Wednesday.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know, when you only have so many games,

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Speaker 1: you know, I didn't think yesterday was going to be

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Speaker 1: that interesting, but then Saturday night was so unbelievable, and

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Speaker 1: then you're watching New England last night was great, and

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Speaker 1: then the I mean that just you know, the league's

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Speaker 1: always entertaining. What can you say, I'm always entertained. Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and the Steelers hello held off the Lions, already

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Speaker 1: controlled the game and to expand their division lead in

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Speaker 1: the AFC North.

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Speaker 4: And I've said this from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Although Aaron Rodgers is merely duct tape for this offense,

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Speaker 1: he and Mike Tomlin they make it work.

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Speaker 4: So it's getting better.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers said, you know, get me my guys, MBS

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Speaker 1: adam feeling. And you know it's typical Steeler fashion, a

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, eye maintenance, drama.

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Speaker 4: You know, you gotta always deal with that.

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Speaker 1: And despite the fact that at two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: to fifteen rush advantage, they had to hold on for dear.

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Speaker 4: Life, it was Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 1: But I will say this about Aaron, He's just a

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Speaker 1: lot of quarterback play is just getting you out of trouble.

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Speaker 1: He's made the offense slicker and smarter. You know, he

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Speaker 1: just he takes what's available, not a lot of negative plays.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Aaron Rodgers leads the entire NFL in fastest release.

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Speaker 1: He's getting rid of the ball faster than any other quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's forty two. He doesn't want to get hit and

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Speaker 1: he doesn't want that Steeler O line to get into

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Speaker 1: trouble because they really don't have the kind of receiving

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Speaker 1: core or consistent run game that had yesterday. They can

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Speaker 1: get them out of trouble. So Aaron's like, give me

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Speaker 1: the ball, let's get it out, stay ahead of the chains.

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Speaker 1: I feel like Aaron has become like the oil, the

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Speaker 1: lubrication for an offensive machine, where the gears for the

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Speaker 1: last seven years have been getting stuck. And he just

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Speaker 1: comes in, get rid of the ball, audible to the

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Speaker 1: right play, take what's available, don't get greedy. It's really smart.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this is the most impressed I've

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Speaker 1: been with Aaron Rodgers in a long time.

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Speaker 4: Well, what about green Bay? Everybody wins in green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Help Malik Willis looked great last Saturday, Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love,

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Speaker 1: Brett Farff, everybody looks good in green Bay. A quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: backups come in. Malik Willis their dynamic. This offense Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: for seven years, they can't run the ball, the old

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Speaker 1: line doesn't work. They you know, turnstyle offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: Aaron gets the credit for this. He gets the credit.

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Speaker 1: The longer this goes on this season, last three weeks,

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Speaker 1: brings his friends in a wide receiver. It's just it works.

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Speaker 1: Jalen Warren two forty five yard runs dominate the Lions.

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Speaker 1: Lions have their own problems, but you know here's you got.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson can't stay healthy. You got Joe Burrow can't

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Speaker 1: he's just done all the little things. Well, it's amazing

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Speaker 1: what coaching can do, or really smart veteran quarterback play.

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Speaker 1: It's not always what they do, it's what they don't do.

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Speaker 1: They don't throw picks, they don't take bad sacks. You know,

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Speaker 1: So Mike Tomlin, you know, you say what you want.

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Speaker 1: And I've had my grievances with Mike Tomlin. Here they

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Speaker 5: Thankful of the fight and to win. And we'll keep

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Speaker 5: pushing because that's what you got to do this time

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Speaker 5: of year, win or lose. You got to keep pushing,

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Speaker 5: and we will. We're coming in to mart to watch

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Speaker 5: the tape. We ain't got time for victory Monday's and

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Speaker 5: that's what I told the team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now let's go to the team that lost.

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Speaker 4: Detroit One.

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Speaker 1: Coach one has really changed the direction of two franchises

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Speaker 1: Detroit and while were they dynamic, the craziest third and

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Speaker 1: He left and went to Chicago and the Bears are

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Speaker 1: the NFL for the record of the Cowboys weren't interested

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Speaker 1: in Ben Johnson. Congratulations, But the Bears who have poor ownership,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been a work in progress.

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Speaker 1: But I've heard this before from athletes, the great athletes,

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Speaker 1: and Caleb Williams is a generational talent.

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Speaker 4: He is special.

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Speaker 1: They want Caleb Williams wanted to be coach hard. He said,

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Speaker 1: there's nobody to watch film with me. He wanted to

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Speaker 1: be coach hard. He wanted somebody to get on him

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Speaker 1: and enter Ben Johnson. I mean, Patrick Mahomes didn't become

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Speaker 1: So and Caleb's got an ability to make the hard

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Speaker 1: But the entire Bears organization, you know again, once you

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Speaker 1: get the coach right Rabel in New England, Sean Payton

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Speaker 1: and Denver Jim Harbaugh. With the Chargers, Ben Johnson, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't take long. Literally, it takes like six to eight weeks.

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Speaker 1: You build a staff, you get the planning, and then

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Speaker 1: slowly but surely you get into week six, week nine,

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Speaker 1: week twelve, week fifteen, you look up, this is a

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Speaker 1: They've been lucky a little bit with health, mostly a

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Speaker 4: They don't have negative plays.

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Speaker 1: So you're seeing the same thing in New England with Rabel,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh. I mean, last year the Bears

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Speaker 1: just a simple thing. Last year, do you remember this,

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Speaker 1: The Bears were the worst fourth quarter team in the league,

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Speaker 1: they couldn't even script plays appropriately.

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Speaker 4: Now third best, So.

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Speaker 1: They start smartly, they finish strongly, and again they've just

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Speaker 1: gotten out of the stuff that loses games, no turnovers,

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Speaker 1: And then of course you have Caleb Williams, who really

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Speaker 1: is a unique talent. Here's the walkoff touchdown?

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Speaker 2: Are the fake Williams looking downfield?

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Speaker 6: Looks to downfield?

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Speaker 4: Good DJ more.

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Speaker 1: And great coaches are like great movie directors. You gotta

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Speaker 1: I mean the Bears got a little bit lucky. They

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Speaker 1: stop the Packers. So it's not just well, teams block

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Speaker 1: punts all the time, teams recover on sidekicks. What do

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Speaker 4: Last night, New England could have lost that puppy.

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Speaker 1: New England maybe gets a big interception or a fumble recovery, Well,

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Speaker 1: what do they do with it?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: Coached teams take advantage of those little breaks that every

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Speaker 1: be honest, that kind of surprised me. But it's what

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Speaker 7: After I got the best coach in the world, let's

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Speaker 7: put it. Let's put it that way. And we have

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Speaker 7: the best coaching staff in the world. And so you

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Speaker 7: put the talent with the coaches and the people that care.

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Speaker 7: You can strive for anything, you can reach anything, you can.

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Speaker 4: Go after any goal. And when you go out.

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Speaker 7: There in that football field, your belief is at all

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Speaker 7: have outcomes like this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Chicago's two best drives, one to get

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Speaker 1: it to overtime, one that wins it in overtime. You

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Speaker 1: can talk all you want about getting lucky. Every team

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Speaker 1: gets the same amount of luck. Urban Myers around the corner.

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Speaker 1: We've got four great games starting on New Year's Eve.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable college football playoff games coming up.

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Speaker 6: Let me put this into context.

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Speaker 1: Well boy, we got some good games. Ohio State Miami.

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Speaker 1: You're talking. Probably the two best defenses in college football

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Speaker 1: against Dan Amy. To me, that was a touchdown advantage,

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Speaker 1: huge break. Urban Meyer is now joining US Live. Three

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Speaker 1: time national championship coach. Okay, so Ryan Day, because Brian

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Speaker 9: Well, the last two national championships we are part of.

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Speaker 9: First one of Florida. Dan Mullen left to become the

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Speaker 4: And to fall behind like they did, I mean they

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Speaker 1: Well, Lincoln Riley left Oklahoma to go to USC. You coaches,

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Speaker 4: Think about what he just said.

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Speaker 9: A malfunctioning organization the last five years, that's all that need.

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Speaker 9: I'm heartbroken. I am a traditionalist. I coached in that

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Speaker 9: I say that the Ohio State scores two touchdowns, they win.

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Speaker 9: I don't think the Miami's offense against the number one

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Speaker 9: Who do you like Texas Tech? The only question is

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Speaker 1: Okay, Alabama, Indiana. I like Indiana here. I think they've

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Indiana, We've been covering them all year. We were

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Speaker 1: Finally, I'll take Georgia by about a touchdown over Ole

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Speaker 9: I'm saying Georgia is probably the team to beat right

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Speaker 4: Or more so.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I just think you saw a Notre Dame. You

438
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Speaker 9: saw Texas. You imagine what those games could have and

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Speaker 9: would have looked like if they would have played each other.

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Speaker 9: And I don't know what anybody expected when James Madison

441
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Speaker 9: had to go to Austin. They fought their ass off.

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Speaker 9: I mean they scored points on them, but you just

443
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Speaker 9: watch the NFL Draft, it's not even close. And then

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Speaker 9: the same with Tulane playing the way they played. You know,

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Speaker 9: then I just didn't know what people are, you know,

446
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Speaker 9: when I saw them coming up the matchups, I'm like,

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Speaker 9: what are we doing? You know, this doesn't make sense

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Speaker 9: to me. And I get what you're saying, but it's

449
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Speaker 9: not March madness. There's only twelve teams.

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, are you golfing today, tomorrow and the day

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Speaker 1: after that?

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Speaker 9: Big stepped down from last week though you were an

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Speaker 9: Augusta Augusta with Alex Smith, my old quarterback made a ball.

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Speaker 1: Oh he's one of the nicest guys. He is one

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Speaker 1: of the elements, dude.

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Speaker 4: He is great. All right, coach, Great seeing you great,

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Speaker 4: seeing you stay warmer.

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Speaker 10: I am.

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Speaker 1: I'll be golfing in Chicago when it gets warm. June

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Speaker 1: twenty third, my kid, because I care, you know. Jmack

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Speaker 1: with the news, No news.

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Speaker 2: This is the headline news.

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Speaker 3: Oh buyer's remorse on the Midwest There, okay, let's get

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Speaker 3: to the Green Bay Packers that came on Saturday night, Colin,

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Speaker 3: What are except for the fact that Jordan Love got

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Speaker 3: knocked out.

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Speaker 6: If you're watching on TV, holy yeah, look at his

468
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Speaker 6: hit that he takes boom. Now listen, some people are

469
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Speaker 6: saying that it.

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Speaker 2: Was a dirty hit.

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Speaker 3: Love lowered his head, you know, Like again, I'm not

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't know look at it, but he

473
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Speaker 3: ducked into it and it was bad.

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Speaker 6: He looked woozy.

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Speaker 3: Packers fans obviously could serve well, Malik Willis took over, Colin.

476
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Speaker 3: I'm sure you saw. He ended up getting a big

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Speaker 3: hit at the end of regulation.

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Speaker 1: Maleique played well. He was so good on third down.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the best backup in the league. He's up there,

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Speaker 3: mac Jones. But here's the bad news, Colin. We don't

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Speaker 3: know if Malink Willis is gonna be able to play

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Speaker 3: this week. That would be crushing news. So the Packers

483
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Speaker 3: could turn to someone named Clayton Tune aka Clayton Looney

484
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Speaker 3: Tune to be the quarterback for Week seventeen. Trying to

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Speaker 3: retain a playoff spot. Bad news is they go to

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Speaker 3: play against Baltimore Colin. This game is Saturday night. It

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Speaker 3: could be third stringer Clayton Tune against backup Snoop Huntley.

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Speaker 3: You're telling me thequarterback depth isn't an issue. That could

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Speaker 3: be a big matchup Saturday night here in week seventeen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen. I still think there's a ton

491
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Speaker 1: of star power. I know when the playoffs come around,

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Speaker 1: I'm getting great young talent and then some Stafford and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and redemption stories like Darnald and Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's going to be great.

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Speaker 3: So we need to recalibrate as we do the offseason. Right,

496
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Speaker 3: what did the Bears do? You mentioned this early? They

497
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Speaker 3: stole from the Chiefs fortifying where the offensive line Tooney, right,

498
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Speaker 3: they bolstered it. I think there will be a gold

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Speaker 3: rush for offensive linemen. Anybody who's available, I'm grabbing them

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Speaker 3: because that's the first easiest way to lose your quarterback.

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Speaker 3: Jared Goff has struggled a lot. What happened they didn't

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Speaker 3: have a center. I think the most pivotal players this

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Speaker 3: offseason will be offensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: Do you agree well, I mean.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it's a quarterback free agent class

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Speaker 1: of note. I think I always said this league is

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Speaker 1: a finder quarterback. Be protect him. That's the first two

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Speaker 1: things in this league. Andrew lock in Indy, they couldn't

509
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Speaker 1: protect him. He retired early. So I mean the first

510
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Speaker 1: thing McVeigh did in LA went and got a left

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Speaker 1: tackle for Jared Goff. Like, so to me, when I

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Speaker 1: see and there's injuries, but if there's one area I

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Speaker 1: would go into a season overpaying and have more players

514
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Speaker 1: than I need, it would be my ole line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, even when it comes to the draft, you know,

516
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Speaker 3: reaching for a tackle, that's fine. Remember the Patriots were

517
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Speaker 3: kind of people took shots at them for drafting Will

518
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Speaker 3: Campbell so early in the draft.

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Speaker 6: I think he went top five and they were.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, he's got short arms. Campbell's been terrific. And

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Speaker 3: guess what Campbell went down with the injies on ir

522
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Speaker 3: Now last week, tough struggle bus for Drake may Now

523
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Speaker 3: this week against the Ravens, he was fine. But offensive

524
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Speaker 3: line is everything. All right, Let's move to the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 3: Collin Wow break up the Panthers and Bryce Young another

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Speaker 3: game winning drive with the former number one pick Colin.

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Speaker 2: He was good.

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Speaker 3: Not only only threw for Buck ninety one, but he

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Speaker 3: made the big throws.

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Speaker 6: Look at that right over the shoulder to Cocher. They've

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Speaker 6: got a nice little receiving group.

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Speaker 4: Here's a team Max great, Oh.

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Speaker 3: Team Max outstanding. Here's Bryce Young on the grit the

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Speaker 3: Panthers show.

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Speaker 4: Coach talks about it all the time.

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Speaker 10: Finish, That's something that we take a lot of pride

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Speaker 10: in that we carry into every aspect of who we

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Speaker 10: are as a team. And you know, for us not

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Speaker 10: to just talk it, but to walk it, to be resilient,

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Speaker 10: to go and continue to battle. I wouldn't want to

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Speaker 10: go to war with any other team.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, half to half. They're a bit

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Speaker 1: inconsistent and it's not a terribly strong division. But I

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Speaker 1: would say from an offensive standpoint, I think they had

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Speaker 1: a good draft and I think they get the most

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Speaker 1: out of their talent. And that's all you can ask.

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Speaker 1: And I think you know, Bryce doesn't have the strongest arm,

548
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Speaker 1: but he's accurate, he moves well. I mean, he's a

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Speaker 1: They like him. I mean, listen, he's got thirty two touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: nine picks, passer rating low nineties. Again. I think he

551
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Speaker 1: got himself that fifth year extension. I think he's going

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Speaker 1: to if he can stay healthy, they can keep surrounding

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Speaker 1: him up front. The defense, they did a good job.

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Speaker 1: The defense got much better. It was awful last year.

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Speaker 1: It's okay now. So it feels like they finally have

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Speaker 1: you know, David Tepper bought it. He was a little impulsive.

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Speaker 1: Feels like they've taken a deep breath. They've reset with

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Speaker 1: Canalis Morgan. It's a real organization now. They outplayed Tampa,

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Speaker 1: no question. Oh yeah, Tampa's reeling. They've lost I think

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Speaker 1: six to seven. So Colin he's the what's the future

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Speaker 1: for Bryce Young? You mentioned the fifth year extension. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you. Could he be a version of

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Speaker 1: what we're seeing with Baker Mayfield in.

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Speaker 3: Tampa and Sam Darnold in Seattle?

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Speaker 6: Can he be a version of that?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I wouldn't want him if it

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Speaker 1: was cold weather. I mean, honestly, when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: cold weather, Tua was a pro bowler in warm weather

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Speaker 1: in Carolina. He's not a big strong, he's not a

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Speaker 1: six to five guy. He didn't have a huge arm,

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Speaker 1: but he plays that division's a warm weather division. I

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Speaker 1: have no problem with Bryce Young. Spend some money in

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Speaker 1: a warm weather division. I don't think he's all weather.

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Speaker 1: He's not all terrain. That's not at it. I mean

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Speaker 1: that's when you need a bigger like Drake may is

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Speaker 1: a His ball cuts through it. He's a big kid.

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Speaker 1: So I think Bryce Young. I mean, listen, you don't

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Speaker 1: want to start over at quarterback now because he's been

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Speaker 1: dinged up before fourth round. Fifth round. Probably draft a

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Speaker 1: quarterback and kind of groom him just in case.

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Speaker 3: But he's made himself some money. I mean, you joke

583
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Speaker 3: about me. I'm a warm weather tank top guy. The

584
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Speaker 3: cold weather I shrivel up.

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Speaker 6: I mean it's tough. I'll just say this.

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Speaker 3: I think at the right price, Carolina can build a

587
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Speaker 3: contender in the NFC column like that division is. We

588
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: know it's a joke. Falcons can't get their act together.

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Speaker 6: Bucks are reeling.

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Speaker 3: I'm not believing the Tyler shuck hype.

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Speaker 6: In New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: If they can build wisely, they've got good receivers too,

593
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Speaker 3: good backs. The offensive line is okay, the defense, as

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Speaker 3: you said, is there. I think they can build a

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Speaker 3: consistent ten win team in that division with Pryce Young

596
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Speaker 3: at the right price, like thirty five thous thirty five mil.

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Speaker 6: You know that kind of contract.

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Speaker 3: Final story, Colm, let's go to boxing where we had. Yeah,

599
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Speaker 3: we don't talk a lot of boxing here. So there

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Speaker 3: was a quote unquote heavyweight matchup Saturday between YouTuber named

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Speaker 3: Jake Paul against former heavyweight champ Anthony Joshua. It was

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Speaker 3: on Netflix. Joshua knocked him out in the sixth round,

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Speaker 3: actually broke Jake Paul's jaw in two places with that

604
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Speaker 3: vicious right hand. I don't have a ton to add here,

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Speaker 3: but I know you love, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, Joshua is one of the best. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: one of the best fighters we've had in a decade.

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Speaker 1: He could have knocked him out three punches in. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know what Netflix does, It's fine with me, But

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was pretty obvious Joshua wasn't throwing his

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Speaker 1: biggest stuff until later, and he could have come out

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Speaker 1: thrown blows first round. In the end of the fight.

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Speaker 1: It was a total mismatch, and everybody kind of knew

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Speaker 1: it was. But you know, I'm sure they you know,

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Speaker 1: it feels like there were certain instructions to let's not

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Speaker 1: make this a thirty second fight and interesting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Joshua is a world class fighter, he's six sixty. Why

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Speaker 1: is a guy six one two fifteen getting in the

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Speaker 1: ring with him? They're not even in the same weight class.

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Speaker 1: I didn't understand this.

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Speaker 3: I saw the highlights and the broken jaw x ray,

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Speaker 3: and I did hear from someone here on staff who

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Speaker 3: was deeply close to this. Uh, Jake Paul got paid,

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Speaker 3: you know, a YouTuber bringing an audience in Netflix got

625
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Speaker 3: north of I'm not even going to say the figure,

626
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Speaker 3: but it's astronomical.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but is this is this what we're is this boxing?

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Speaker 1: So what we're doing? More people watch that, then we'll

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Speaker 1: watch any other fight in the next twelve months. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, whether it's right or wrong, UFC has stolen

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Speaker 1: all of boxing's thunder feels.

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Speaker 6: A little short sighted.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we can get a lot of people to watch

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Speaker 3: this fight in December.

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Speaker 1: Cool?

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Speaker 3: What's on the game plan for twenty six crickets?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Jmack with the news, So it's interest to night's the Niners.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's normally you wouldn't be excited about this game,

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Speaker 1: but the Niners are shockingly good. And Philip Rivers at

641
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Speaker 1: forty four years old, is you know, going to go

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Speaker 1: at it again. He can't move, but he couldn't move

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Speaker 1: you know when he was good. So I like the

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Speaker 1: Niners that this one. But my take is on the

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Speaker 1: back end of the Colts defense you can kind of

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Speaker 1: make hay. So I think the Niners will move the

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Speaker 1: ball down the field. But I am interested to watch

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Speaker 1: and it is. We've seen Kirk Cousins, We've seen Philip Rivers,

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Speaker 1: We've seen Matt Stafford, We've seen Aaron Rodgers. These old

650
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Speaker 1: school guys are very good at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 1: They're very good pre snap. There's limitations on how much

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Speaker 1: they can move. But what Aaron's done in Pittsburgh is

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Speaker 1: very redeemable. They just don't make a lot of mistakes.

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Speaker 1: He keeps the chains moving forward. You know, he's not

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Speaker 1: running around getting in trouble. There's a lot of value

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Speaker 1: in just stay ahead of the sticks, complete the passes

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Speaker 1: that are open, get the ball off, don't take sacks,

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Speaker 1: don't turn it over. It's not the sexiest football, but

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Speaker 1: you know, I think the Colts will be viable for

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Speaker 1: about three quarters tonight.

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Speaker 4: It's the Hurt.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Easter not a Empacific.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I've noted this a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: I think with Josh Allen and Caleb Williams, you do

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Speaker 1: get these kind of unique quarterbacks that have so much

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Speaker 1: talent and so much horsepower. I don't worry too much

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Speaker 1: about stats. I talked about this last week. Caleb's improved

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Speaker 1: on everything this year, accept completion percentage. Here's Hasselback on

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Speaker 1: Matt Hasselback on Caleb and the winover Green Bay.

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Speaker 11: He put this team on his back in critical moments.

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Speaker 11: It was a struggle, bust of a game, a very

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Speaker 11: windy situation, rivalry game, and he had two incredible plays.

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Speaker 11: And Ben Johnson again, whether it's specialty teams, are offensive

675
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Speaker 11: explosive plays or defense on side kick, this is a

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Speaker 11: guy that has his team, has.

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Speaker 4: The whole city believe.

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Speaker 11: In and they believe they I think a lot of

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Speaker 11: people believe that they've got their quarterback. And for sure

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Speaker 11: he is quieting a lot of the doubters.

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Speaker 1: And you know, it's last year he had twenty touchdown

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Speaker 1: six picks, but they were you know, you got the

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Speaker 1: coach fired and the coordinator run out. So Ben Johnson's

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Speaker 1: just alleviated a lot of the dysfunction. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, Mike Vrabel said this when he got the

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Speaker 1: New England job. He said, you just don't realize here

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Speaker 1: in New England how lucky you are, basically saying Tennessee

688
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Speaker 1: is dysfunctional and political and poorly run. Well, Chicago's had

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Speaker 1: that reputation forever, so there's things you have to overcome.

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Speaker 4: But I think if you have.

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Speaker 1: A superstar coach and a superstar level talent at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you can overcome it. It was I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: all the big plays. This has become a fourth quarter team.

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Speaker 1: And here's Hasselback on Ben and Caleb in year one.

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Speaker 11: I think it's exciting for a guy like Ben Johnson

696
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Speaker 11: because he was coaching Jared Goff, who does everything right

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Speaker 11: but doesn't have the mobility and es capability to make.

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Speaker 4: A bad play call look great.

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Speaker 11: And I think that's one thing Calebs can do. And

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Speaker 11: yet at the same time accomplishing the goal of the team,

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Speaker 11: which was consistent play, never ever ever missing an open guy,

702
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Speaker 11: never being the reason that a play wasn't successful. Maybe

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Speaker 11: doing letting the offense work for you some of those things.

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Speaker 11: If you can put all that together, you can have

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Speaker 11: an MVP quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that you're noticing all the success

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Speaker 1: bo Nix is having and Drake May's having and Caleb

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Speaker 1: Williams are having, why well they've got good coaches, but

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Speaker 1: they're on their rookie contracts. So Denver's roster, Chicago's roster,

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Speaker 1: New England's rosters better than people think. Is that. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked Jmax brought this up. Joe Burrow can't make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs again. And you look at Baltimore, that roster

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Speaker 1: looks kind of thin. And you look at Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: I think Kansas City's in a rebuild. Everybody else thinks retool.

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Speaker 1: I think it rebuild. Folks, when you have a star quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Even if you have a star quarterback, you better make

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Speaker 1: hay in four or five years. Because once you pay Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: look at his own line, Once you pay Lamar, look

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Speaker 1: at his own line, once you pay Josh Allen, look

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Speaker 1: at his defense.

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Speaker 4: That's if you get a superstar quarterback.

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Speaker 1: If Kansas City, not Buffalo, not Baltimore, they got the

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Speaker 1: trophies and that's the reality of it. There are some

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Speaker 1: really elite quarterbacks on team friendly deals. Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: those are team friendly deals. Brockberdi's deal is not too bad.

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Speaker 1: Rock Perty's pretty good deal for the Niners, but it

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Speaker 1: changes everything. And so a great part of Bownick's success

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Speaker 1: isn't just Sean Payton.

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Speaker 4: It's a really good roster.

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Speaker 1: And you look at the ability for New England to

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Speaker 1: go out and get Stefan Diggs and then they hit on,

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Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Williams, who's getting better and better as

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Speaker 1: a deep threat, and you know, you start you look around,

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Speaker 1: it's you You've got. So j Max said this earlier.

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Speaker 1: Is it over as the door closed for Lamar Jackson? Well,

736
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Speaker 1: he's expensive and because the old line's not as good,

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Speaker 1: he gets dinged up more. Josh Allen yesterday gets stinged up.

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Speaker 1: We saw Patrick Mahomes gets hurt. So, man, you you

739
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Speaker 1: got to make Hay. There's just because once these star quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: what are you going to do? How many of them

741
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Speaker 1: are going to sign team friendly deals? They're not? You know,

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Speaker 1: if if you know, and this is not blaming him,

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Speaker 1: if if Justin Herbert and he shouldn't. If he'd ha

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Speaker 1: taken ten million less, they'd have another tackle on the roster.

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Speaker 1: But he shouldn't. He's been carrying that franchise with bad

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Speaker 1: coaches for years. Justin should take every penny he can.

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Speaker 1: So it's just it's it's if you look at the

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Speaker 1: highest quarterback cap hits, let's say they're putting it down here,

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Speaker 1: I have to read, Yeah, so Dak Prescott, well, no playoffs, okay,

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford they had now they have ace like three

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Speaker 1: drafts in a row, like they have just hit on

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Speaker 1: every draft pick. But should be noted secondary is not

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Speaker 1: very good. Special teams are a wreck. With the Rams,

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Speaker 1: they just fired the special team goal. So then you

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Speaker 1: go to Joe Burrow. Defense is awful, Lamar Jackson roster's okay,

756
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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray roster's okay. Geno Smith roster's horrible. So again

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Speaker 1: that's where you get into trouble when Geno Smith is

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Speaker 1: a huge Cappit all live with Stafford, but you just

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Speaker 1: can't make me. You can't pay Geno Smith big money.

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Speaker 1: Huge mistake by the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: So one of the top eight cap hits made the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: and that's Stafford. Seven was Kirk Cousins and eight was too.

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Speaker 3: So Colin, let's spin this forward twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 6: Do you want me?

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Speaker 1: I want to see it.

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Speaker 6: Okay, here we go.

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Speaker 3: Number One, Deshaun Watson is the biggest cap hit next year.

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Speaker 3: They making the playoffs. We already try that's right. Number

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Speaker 3: two is Patrick Mahomes, so all this, Hey, the Chiefs

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Speaker 3: are going to do all this stuff in the season.

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Speaker 3: You might have to start with talking to Mahomes about

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Speaker 3: his contract. Number three Lamar Jackson biggot third biggest cap

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Speaker 3: hit next year. Then it's Dak Prescott, followed by this one.

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Speaker 3: Surprised me. Jared Goss at five. I thought the lines

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Speaker 3: would have wiggle room, maybe not six Kirk Cousins, forget

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Speaker 3: about him. Seven is two, eight, Josh Allen, nine Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: So again, I know people think, oh, it's Mahomes and Reed,

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Speaker 3: Oh it's Lamar and probably John Hart.

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Speaker 6: It's way deeper than that. The NFL has changed, man.

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Speaker 4: Listen, go look at Sam Darnold's roster.

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Speaker 1: They moved off DK Metcalf to the less expensive JSN

782
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Speaker 1: Donald signed a friendly deal. So you look at Seattle

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Speaker 1: by moving off DK Metcalf, and by getting Donald at

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Speaker 1: a team friendly deal, that roster is stacked. Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Jalen Hurts does not have a huge

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Speaker 1: cap hit. Therefore, Philadelphia's roster like Seattle between good drafting

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Speaker 1: and the addition of a couple key pieces. I'm surprised

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Speaker 1: Stafford's number is that high, but I think you just

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Speaker 1: pointed it out. One of the top ten quarterbacks, top

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Speaker 1: top eight are making the playoffs, and that's with probably

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Speaker 1: the best coach in the league, Sean McVay, and they

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Speaker 1: they've been on a string for three years of hitting

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Speaker 1: on draft picks that is really special.

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Speaker 3: And then you you marriage that, marry that with the

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Speaker 3: NFL playoff seedings, and you're like, oh, that.

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Speaker 6: Tracks like literally almost everywhere, it's.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh, that guy doesn't have a big habit probably successful.

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Speaker 1: Here's who doesn't have a big cap hit. Bonis Drake May,

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, Aaron Rodgers, Justin Herbert top five seeds.

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Speaker 4: The other one.

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Speaker 1: It's Sam Darnold, Caleb Williams, Jalen Hurt, Bryce Young Stafford.

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Speaker 4: Of the top ten seeds.

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Speaker 1: One has the big quarterback cap hit, and again Sean

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Speaker 1: mcvay's probably the best coach in the league. And they've

805
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Speaker 1: gone seven for seven in their last seven defense picks.

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Speaker 1: They've gotten either it's luck, either it's just brilliance, but

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Speaker 1: they are I mean, you get Pooka in the fifth round.

808
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Speaker 1: That's not normal. You don't get players like that in

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Speaker 1: the fifth round.

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Speaker 3: So if you're looking for a team next year, I

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Speaker 3: was early on this, then I whiff this year. But

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Speaker 3: the Tennessee Titans have a ton of cap money. That

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Speaker 3: is an attractive job for somebody because nobody's.

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Speaker 6: Getting paid on the Titans yet.

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Speaker 3: So if you think there's five or six guys, you

816
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Speaker 3: can go out there like Vrabel did and add to

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Speaker 3: the Patriots and you think cam Ward has Drake may upside.

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Speaker 6: I don't know he might. I've seen some flashes from

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Speaker 6: Caim Mordon.

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Speaker 3: I like him, but there are that's an attractive job

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Speaker 3: for the right coach. Now if they go hire a

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Speaker 3: defensive guy, I think we probably forget about it right

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Speaker 3: as as you noted, Liam Cohen offensive guy playoffs, Ben

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Speaker 3: Johnson offensive guy playoffs. I think we've kind of hacked

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Speaker 3: the NFL now we know how to build.

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Speaker 1: And then Mike Vrabel is a defensive guy, but he's

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Speaker 1: close with Josh McDaniels, who is, argue believe, the best

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator in the sport. So if you're a defensive

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Speaker 1: guy and Josh McDaniels, New England's very lucky. McDaniels has

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Speaker 1: come out and said, I like living here. My wife

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Speaker 1: likes it, my kids like it. It's a great educational

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Speaker 1: area in that area, like New England's got Craft, they

833
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Speaker 1: got Vabel, and Josh just likes living there. Great schools,

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Speaker 1: great place to raise your family. So I figure they

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Speaker 1: got lucky there because Josh isn't gonna leave. But he's

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Speaker 1: also he's tried the head coaching thing. He's gonna stay there.

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm watching New England last night.

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Speaker 3: Frustrating as a Jets fan, very frustrating. Very Oh how

839
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Speaker 3: about this as a Jets fan. Dante Moore? I mean

840
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Speaker 3: I watched the JMU game. I'm a JMU grad. Dante

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Speaker 3: Moore look pretty damn good. Let's see what he does

842
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Speaker 3: against Texas Tech. I wonder do you think he's coming

843
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 3: out now? Because his profiles skyrocketing and there's no other

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks coming out.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he is I don't think he has

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Speaker 1: enough college starts. I think he's going to stay at Oregon,

847
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Speaker 1: and Oregon is a uniquely positioned to pay him, you

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Speaker 1: know whatever, they're going to pay him, so I mean,

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Speaker 1: he may come out. It's it's the I mean, I mean,

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Speaker 1: part of it is I wouldn't want to go to

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Speaker 1: a New York football team.

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Speaker 4: Honestly, I wouldn't want to.

853
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Speaker 1: Like if I saw a team up there and I'm like,

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00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 1: you know this team's got you know, you better look

855
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Speaker 1: at ownership, You better look at ownership. Excellent work today.

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Speaker 1: First things first is around the corner. I'm liking the

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Speaker 1: Niners tonight. Fun game with Philip Rivers and the Colt