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Speaker 3: Greetings, are welcome to a Thursday edition shotgun Start. It

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Speaker 3: is September seventh, Andy, How are we doing.

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Speaker 2: Brendan, We're doing We're doing good. It's early morning. Uh

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Speaker 2: just uh right? Right for another weekend? You know I

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Speaker 2: What about you? Right for football? Wait? You all died.

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Speaker 3: Waiting all day, waiting, waiting all summer for for tonight,

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Speaker 2: Listen, I think that's a that's a great aesthetic to

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Speaker 2: Well, spike Mark is it's not you know, it's a

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Speaker 3: Maybe the golf Stack guys mageum in them. Golf Stat

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Speaker 3: We don't need you at I'm not leaving so little drama.

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Speaker 3: is for them, you wish them luck, but yet clearly

433
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 3: kind of feeling a little, a little left off and

434
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 3: snubbed there, not expecting the call he got while he

435
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 3: was on a train, he said, with his girlfriend leaving

436
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:24,560
Speaker 3: the Switzerland.

437
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: Probably how much you know, celebrating being picked that day, Yeah, yeah,

438
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: May May. They were partying in the Swiss Alps and uh,

439
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 2: you know yeah, so that was that was a tough

440
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: I feel bad for Marunk. I I do in a way.

441
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: I you know, I I talked to somebody from his uh,

442
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: from his group. You know, it just happened to be

443
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 2: just you know, chatting up. No, I talked to him

444
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: at l a CC by the first t we just

445
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 2: just started talking with this guy and it turned out

446
00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 2: to be somebody involved with Adrian Morunk's golf game and

447
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: they and I said something about Ryder Cup and the

448
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,239
Speaker 2: guy was like, oh, yeah, we're we're so pumped, like

449
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: this is what we're working, Like everything we're doing is

450
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: for that, right, And Uh, it's just a bummer. It's

451
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: it's a bummer. Somebody had to be left off, right,

452
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 2: And Uh, I think like obviously with all the winds,

453
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 2: and I think, like I'm guessing that he got a

454
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 2: lot of like positive a you know, messages and stuff

455
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: towards his candidacy, right, Like, I think like he probably

456
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: at one point was was almost considered a lock, right,

457
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,479
Speaker 2: and it's got to be hard to go from that

458
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 2: to being the odd man out.

459
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, one at the venue one three times continued on

460
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: with news, Uh, there was a nuclear golf tweet, which

461
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 3: is an account citing todd Lewis. I don't know where

462
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: todd Lewis said this parent I would assume on television

463
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: because I don't see it, you know, in print any

464
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 3: where that.

465
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 2: Said saw that. I think it was on TV.

466
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, Justin Thomas had put his dad in the background.

467
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: This was a day after JT had posted you know,

468
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 3: his weekend I think Tennessee, you know, swinging between the

469
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 3: pool noodles and uh fishing and things like that. Todd

470
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: Lewis's report let or apparently I didn't see it live,

471
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 3: said that he had put his dad kind of in

472
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 3: the background as a coach, and also let go of

473
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 3: his putting coach. John Graham, speaking with Dave Sholoski of

474
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 3: Golf Digest, who I think you know knows Mike Thomas

475
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 3: a little bit, he said, you're kidding, this is Mike Thomas.

476
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 2: That's just stupid. That's what some people in the media do.

477
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 2: That's me.

478
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. I just left Justin. We worked all morning.

479
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: But listen, if he did fire me and it was

480
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 3: for the better, then what's the problem. I guess they

481
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 3: have to have something to talk about. So Mike Thomas

482
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 3: rebuking apparently rebuking that story quite a bit. He added

483
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 3: that his son sends him video every night he would

484
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 3: not comment on the status of which would seem to

485
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 3: add a little bit of credence to that part of

486
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 3: the report. He also said something like, uh, Justin began

487
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 3: going for less one on one instruction last year, so

488
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: that just that JT could do more of his own

489
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 3: work on his own swing. So I don't know, Mike

490
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 3: clearly still working with them in some capacity. Uh, whether

491
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 3: it's backburner or what is subjective characterization any reaction.

492
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, like when you work with an instructor

493
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 2: for a long time, you know, you it's it's it's

494
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: a you know, it becomes just like a a relationship,

495
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,239
Speaker 2: right yep, just like any relationship in your life. And

496
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: obviously it's got to make matters a lot more complex

497
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 2: when that person's your father, right yep. So I don't

498
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 2: I don't know what to what to think based off

499
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 2: of Mike Thomas's quotes and comments. But you think you've

500
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: brought this up several times, maybe look at it like Ricky, right,

501
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes you need just somebody that explains the

502
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 2: same thing, the exact same thing that somebody that somebody

503
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: else is explaining, just says it in a different way.

504
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 2: It's like, I mean, like, how many times has your

505
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: wife said to you, like, oh, if somebody else says

506
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 2: something to you, you listen. You don't listen to when

507
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 2: I say it, you know, like it's just something. This

508
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: is a matter of this is a fact of life. Right.

509
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: Sometimes a different voice saying the exact same thing resonates

510
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 2: with you and I don't know. It's a tricky, tricky situation.

511
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: It's it's one of the really difficult I think that

512
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: one of the difficult things that Justin Thomas has to

513
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: conf run if if if the if he doesn't you know,

514
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: improve if it, if this becomes a I'm not I

515
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: don't know how long the slump is going to be,

516
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: but if the slump keeps extending, that's where you get

517
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 2: into like a weird spot, right, yep, yep. It's like

518
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 2: he could come out and win NAPA right easy.

519
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: People were pretty freaking out about the pool noodles, which

520
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 3: is just like a jarring drill visual.

521
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 2: It's yeah, I know.

522
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 3: People are just amused by that, you know, between club

523
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: pro guy using pool. You know, it's just the thing

524
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: that people are gonna pounce on. But it's a fascinating,

525
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 3: complicated situation. Uh, further complicated by the coach being your

526
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: father and someone that's gonna be a really important part

527
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: of your life no matter what. And you know, we

528
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 3: saw that in Full Swing season one. It's an interesting,

529
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 3: really kind of cool dynamic. But yeah, maybe just on

530
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 3: his coaching, maybe just the voice or that you know

531
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 3: where they're at right now.

532
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 2: Also like you saw it in full swing, which you know,

533
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm I'm happy full swings, really growing the game. And

534
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: but anyways, the thing you saw in full swing was

535
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: you saw how different that coaching relationship is than everything else,

536
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 2: just by the way it's you know, even though just

537
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: the way that they communicate right it is a I

538
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: don't know, I'm not envious of it. It's not how

539
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: I would want my coaching situation to be set up.

540
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: Like I as a when I played junior golf, my

541
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: dad caddied for me in a couple events. It's not

542
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 2: a good situation, all right.

543
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 3: That's a good transition to over unders because we're gonna

544
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 3: do some NFL over unders when I have in here,

545
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: we got golf advice after it, So no golf advice

546
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 3: is coming. We're gonna rip through some NFL season is here.

547
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 3: Maybe we're fired up, But I have the golf mixed

548
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: in with a few of these. And one of them

549
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: is JT's finishing position at Fortinet next week versus total

550
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 3: points and Packers Bears, which right now the official line

551
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: is forty two point five. So big start for JT.

552
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: You know, if the MC's we'll just count that obviously

553
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 3: is over the seventies tied seventy second or something, so

554
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 3: total points and Bears Packers, which I gotta say, when

555
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 3: was the last time when the Bears were favored against

556
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,479
Speaker 3: the Packers? We are in the post Aaron Rodgers era.

557
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 3: The Bears are giving a point.

558
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: Let me tell you to the Packers, when was the

559
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: last time that I've been listening to some NFL pod?

560
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: Same you know, I'm usually running when I'm listening to

561
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 2: any pod, and I was just like running, and I

562
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 2: was just thinking to myself, Oh, you know how great

563
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: it is they were talking about Aaron Rodgers on the Jets,

564
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Like do you know how great it is is a

565
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 2: Bears fan to know that we aren't going to see

566
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers this year unless it's the Super Bowl? Like

567
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 2: I I mean, do you know this is again about

568
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: the Packers? Just kind of like I get I get that,

569
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: like it was time to go maybe or you know,

570
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: use a pain in the ass and everything, but this

571
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:39,479
Speaker 2: is just this is just anecdotal of your biggest rival.

572
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,959
Speaker 2: I just aem so so happy that we don't have

573
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: to play them, like so so happy.

574
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 3: It's great, and you're favored by one in the opener,

575
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 3: So I don't We've got Jordan new quarterback Justin Field's

576
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: Week one offense may be a little shaky.

577
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: No, No, the Bears defense is going to be bad. Okay,

578
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: the Bears had all this money, they didn't spend any

579
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: of it. They said they spent some of it, but

580
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: they still have like the most cap room. Maybe the

581
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 2: franchise might be being cheap to save up for a stadium.

582
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: And uh.

583
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,879
Speaker 3: So the head to head is JT finishing position.

584
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: Oh, JT finishing position is under. The total will be

585
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: lower than total points. I think this. I think this

586
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 2: could be like A. I think there's gonna be a

587
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: lot of points score. I guess the Packers defense might

588
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 2: be good. Bears offense might be good.

589
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 3: Though you get like A you get like a seventeen

590
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: to ten is J twenty.

591
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 2: I think the score is con be like tho.

592
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're gonna just need JT to make the

593
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 3: cut and kind of just get up there in the

594
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,359
Speaker 3: top forty or something.

595
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: Packers fans might be irrationally happy with Jordan Love and

596
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 2: not realize that the te it's just bad. Okay, there

597
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: you go, I like got that very very bad front

598
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: Steven like very bad front four. It's it's we've got

599
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 2: no We've got that in Dockway, Yannik and Dockway is

600
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: our only like real lineman. Okay, all right?

601
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: Next over under for the season teams, Andy roots for

602
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 3: one and a half. You know, you're this kind of

603
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 3: shiftless fan out there. You root for the Kings, the Bulls,

604
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 3: the Celtics, the Warriors. You've got five NBA teams, teams

605
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 3: you root for. I'm saying one and a half. When

606
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 3: the Niners start to.

607
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: Go, I'm I don't jump on the fair Weather team.

608
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,879
Speaker 2: I was, you know, for the record, I was way

609
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: out ahead of the Kings, all right, okay, I was

610
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: the Kings fan at the beginning of the season when

611
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: nobody believed in the Kings. I picked the Kings because

612
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 2: they stunk. It is something that represented my Chicago fandom.

613
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: I'm ready for the uh yeah, for the Josh Harris

614
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 3: era here in DC as well. Commander is my NFC team.

615
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 3: So I'm over one and a half.

616
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 2: You're over you're rooting for the Commander. I don't know.

617
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 3: My kids are big Command. We're going to a game

618
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 3: in a couple of weeks Bill's commanders.

619
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: I see no viable options for me on the West

620
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: coast for fair Art.

621
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 3: Well, there's NFC, right, I mean there's the AFC. I

622
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: like split in the leagues, right, you're a Bears.

623
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: Fan other yeah, and there's no no team, So I'm

624
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: not If the Raiders were around, maybe they would have

625
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: been my team.

626
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 3: Let's do a basic one total wins. Browns are at

627
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: nine and a half and Bears are at seven and

628
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 3: a half. How are you feeling about that? How are

629
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 3: you feeling? I'm I'm scared shitless with the sort of

630
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 3: this sort of trendy pick of people getting into the Browns.

631
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 3: I've got Hurricane Shane Bacon texted me about how much

632
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: he loves the Browns this year. I'm listening to various

633
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 3: football podcast like yourself. People are getting in on the Browns.

634
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: I'm very scared about the trendy, this late wave of

635
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 3: of support for the Browns. That said, I think we

636
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 3: go under nine nine, I'll be happy with nine.

637
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 2: And what about the Bears, Well, your.

638
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 3: Comments just now about the defense don't inspire a lot

639
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: of confidence. I think I'm gonna go under. Maybe I'm

640
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 3: just a pessimist.

641
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 2: I think we're too too damaged fans because I'm going

642
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 2: under on both. Also, I just I do not these

643
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: are tortured franchises.

644
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: Right, So that that's just that that just sort of

645
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: transitions me to the next one total combined games attended

646
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 3: by both you and me?

647
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: At point five? Do we go to a single game?

648
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: And by this, I mean, are we gonna be giving

649
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 3: a shit about Bears Browns December seventeenth week?

650
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: Whatever?

651
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 3: Like, are we gonna actually go to that when we're

652
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 3: six and ten or whatever we may be at that point?

653
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 3: Do we do we make it to a Bears or

654
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,720
Speaker 3: Browns game this year? Point five?

655
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: You know, I got offered by a nice gentleman. I

656
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: got offered tickets while I was in the fine city

657
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: of Cleveland for that December game.

658
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, to Cleveland December seventeenth for to see

659
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: two maybe bad NFL teams play on the lake when

660
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: it's frigid and just whipping snowing.

661
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: Uh. The one the danger for me is.

662
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: When the Browns come to Baltimore, it's like forty five

663
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: minutes away. You know, it's just it's a house of horrors.

664
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 2: Though, I mean the Bears game I should be traveling

665
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 2: for which sounds delightful is Bear's Commanders October fifth. I

666
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: should be just coming to coming to d C in

667
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 2: early October.

668
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a good one. You should come. That's

669
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 3: a Thursday night game. I think, right, I got nothing

670
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 3: going on week after the Ryder Cup, we had nothing else. Yeah.

671
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 2: If I add any more travel, I think my relationship

672
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 2: will be over.

673
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:12,240
Speaker 3: All right, that transitions, So next one then total games

674
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: attended by Jason Cocrack point five Browns games? Are you

675
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 3: going over or under for us attending? Yeah, I'm going over.

676
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: I got faith. I am going over too. I want

677
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 3: to make it happen. It's a good time. It's a

678
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: good time of the year for it. Yeah yeah, yeah,

679
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 3: we're doing year in review. Maybe we just do it

680
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: at the tailgate and just get it done.

681
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 2: With two year in review in your in your parents'

682
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 2: sitting room basement or whatever. Yeah, all right, so I'm

683
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:47,680
Speaker 2: going over.

684
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: I think we each get to a game total, or

685
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 3: we get one of us gets to one game. I

686
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 3: guess how about co crack Brown's games attended point five?

687
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 3: You know we'll hear about this. He gets honored at

688
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: Midfield every time he shows up social media. He's got

689
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 3: all the time right with his family. He's a live boy.

690
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's trying to make in rows to get

691
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: into a club. You know that's right.

692
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 3: So I'm going over Coke Crack Browns game attendant. How

693
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 3: about Matt Fitz Bears games attended point five?

694
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 2: Will hammer the under? All right, what's yours? What you

695
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 2: gotta get? I'm going co Crack over, FITSI over. I'm

696
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: going FITSI over. He's going back.

697
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 3: He's going to reclaim his turf territory, you know, Northwestern's

698
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,600
Speaker 3: and shambles. So you gotta just kind of jump on

699
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 3: the other bandwagon at the Bear's facility. All right, what

700
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: else do we have here? Starting qbs for the Bears

701
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 3: and Browns combined, And I'm setting the over under it

702
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 3: three and a half, so that means more than one

703
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 3: quarterback starts for each team, or maybe three starts for

704
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: the Bears or the Browns. And I noticed Justin Field's

705
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 3: backup is none other than the Peter Man.

706
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: I did not know that he he got cut. He cut,

707
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 2: he's cut. I checked the Dupp chart. It's Tyson Badger

708
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 2: is with this rookie or Peter Walker.

709
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,840
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, then I've got bad I've got a

710
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: bad dupth Chart says he's active.

711
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: All right, Actually no, they got the Peter Man. That's

712
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Well they cut him, they cut him

713
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: the other day. Okay, well you might be.

714
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: That's what basically I'm gaying at is, if we go

715
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: to this game in December, could it be Nathan Peterman

716
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: versus who knows Charlie Fry then second coming of Charlie Fry.

717
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 3: So I think you've got Justin Fields running a lot

718
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 3: could get popped. DeShawn Watson.

719
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the COVID deal now? Is it the

720
00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: same they just got They just got rid of the Yeah,

721
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: that's not the thing, okay, because like that was like

722
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 2: just like an instant. You're gonna miss a couple of games. Yeah,

723
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: everybody on the roster is going to miss one game.

724
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: You know.

725
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 3: I think we see Nathan Peterman for the Bears this year.

726
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 3: I think Deshaun Watson, I'm anxious, Like two hundred and

727
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,760
Speaker 3: fifty million guaranteed looked like shit last year.

728
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: I think I'm going over. I think this is an

729
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: easy over. Yep.

730
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 3: Four total starting quarterbacks play this year.

731
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 2: I can't believe Peterman's back is QB two.

732
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: All right, next one missed field goals and extra points combined.

733
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 2: I noticed. I'm going Can I talk about what the

734
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: game within the game is all season for the Bears? Yeah?

735
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 2: Last year I kind of I was all over this

736
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 2: first pick in the draft. I think this year we've

737
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: got an excellent, excellent chance at the first pick in

738
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 2: the draft.

739
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 3: Okay, you think they want that, Caleb Williams. Basically what

740
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: you're saying.

741
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: The Panthers, they have the Panthers pick, They're a disaster,

742
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: utter disaster. I mean, so like main main attraction every

743
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: week for the Bears fans is is the Bears second

744
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: attraction rooting against the Panthers just like yeah, I mean

745
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna have the Panthers start as a favorite team.

746
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 2: I mean, if the Bears season doesn't go well, we

747
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: could be in a top ten pick. Like if Justin

748
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: Fields gets hurt, it's gonna be a disaster. As we

749
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 2: just outlaid with the with the quarterback thing with Peterman,

750
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: and then the other guy that they got is a

751
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: D two quarterback. He's a rookie that played D two

752
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: football last year. So, but the bat the big thing

753
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 2: is the Panthers could be the worst, could be the

754
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: worst team of football. And I don't think like, I

755
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 2: don't think enough is talked about about. Like the genius

756
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: of the trade that the Bears bade was taking Dj

757
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: Moore away too, Like taking the best offensive player away

758
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 2: from the team that then drafts the number one quarterback. Like,

759
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,800
Speaker 2: so you have this team that has no offensive weapons.

760
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: It was like, you know, everybody's like they should have

761
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 2: gotten another draft pick. Well, like they actually enhanced the

762
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: chances of them being terrible by taking away like one

763
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: of their four best players.

764
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 3: It's a good it's a good little strategy, good little

765
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 3: you know, sub category or subplot to that trade.

766
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: I like that. So fans, Panthers fans, you're my Packers

767
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 2: this year. I'm going to be just glued to your scores.

768
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 2: I'm going to be rooting for everything bad that can happen,

769
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 2: you know, within reason, happening to your team, within reason. Okay,

770
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 2: all right?

771
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 3: Missed field goals and extra points combined over under eight

772
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: and a half for both the Browns and the Bear

773
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 3: over Cairo Santos.

774
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,399
Speaker 2: What is this guy's deal?

775
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: He went twenty one to twenty three for field goals,

776
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 3: but missed like eight extra points last year. Seven extra

777
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: points were harder than the field goals. Kade York completely

778
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,720
Speaker 3: just just cut. We spent a freaking fourth round draft

779
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 3: pick on him. He's no longer on the team a

780
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 3: year later. So eight and a half for the Bears. Also,

781
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 3: it's not combined for both teams. Eight and a half

782
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,839
Speaker 3: for the Bears, eight and half for the Browns? How

783
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 3: much heartbreak are we gonna cover with the missed field goals?

784
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 2: And way over right? Okay, what do you got? I

785
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: think over?

786
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: I think over. We're pessimists. Of course it's gonna be

787
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: like four tortured fan there are. I'm a Cups fan.

788
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 3: The Bears have have made one super Bowl since I've

789
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 3: been alive.

790
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

791
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: I've got a few others here that we'll just we'll

792
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 3: move on to golf advice. I just gotta throw out

793
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 3: what go one final?

794
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 2: You are? Truly?

795
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: I saw this scouring the lines which need to be

796
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: for all the gambling content out there, there's just like

797
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 3: it's a mess trying to find real stuff. You are

798
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 3: one sick puppy if you bet Deshaun Watson to win

799
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 3: Comeback Player of the Year at plus thirty five hundred,

800
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: you are an idiot.

801
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 2: Your money. You might as well light your money on fire.

802
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: There's no way he's gonna win. Now he has.

803
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 3: Odds for Comeback Player of the Year. Deshaun Watson over

804
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 3: like Damarrow Hamblin others like this is not it's not happening.

805
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: But I could not believe there was a line for

806
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: he could win MVP and not win that award. He

807
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: has a better chance of winning MVP than winning that award.

808
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: Nobody's voting for him.

809
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: He could not believe it when I saw Deshaun Watson

810
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 3: come He.

811
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: Could put together the greatest season a quarterback ever has

812
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,399
Speaker 2: had in the history of the NFL, and he won't

813
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 2: win come Back Player of the Year. I can assure

814
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 2: you that I'm not going to vote him for that.

815
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 2: One does a media vote on Cutback Player of the Year.

816
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 2: I believe so, I believe no way he wins.

817
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 3: That not happening.

818
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 2: Couldn't believe it. I couldn't bet. You couldn't bet over

819
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: just because that would be saying that who's your backup quarterback? Uh?

820
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 3: Dorian Thompson Robinson, this guy from UCLA.

821
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: He's awesome. He's just awesome. Oh, people are fired up. Yeah.

822
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 3: Apparently he played at US today for like twenty five years,

823
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 3: so he's older. Had a great like preseason, opposing teams

824
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 3: are like, that guy can that guy can ball. So

825
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: he but of course we got two hundred and fifty

826
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 3: million dollars tied up into Shaan Watson, So what are

827
00:47:58,360 --> 00:47:58,759
Speaker 3: you gonna do?

828
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 2: Nobody, nobody cares about this, but like, uh, you know,

829
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: I had my fantasy football draft last night and just

830
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 2: an amusing tale from it. One of my one of

831
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: my friends is works for for the University of u

832
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: c l A. And uh, he reached like rounds round

833
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: for that snap sharp and a it's like running back

834
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 2: and everybody's like what and he goes listen, I watched him.

835
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 2: I watched him at practice. This guy's god. And we

836
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: all just burst out like he is not he's not

837
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: working for the football program. Yeah, it's like, oh, your

838
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: scout scouts, they department. I'm surprised that he didn't pick this, uh,

839
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 2: this quarterback as well, you know, with his uh, with

840
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: his in depth field scouting, Like everybody was like, oh,

841
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: were you talking to Chim Kelly about it. That's good, good,

842
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 2: all right, I've got a few more.

843
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: But let's get the golf advice that does it for

844
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 3: NFL over unders our annual overruners. We'll have more PGA

845
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 3: Tour ones, much more appropriate PGA Tour ones next next

846
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: week as that season begins out in NAPA. So we

847
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 3: do one or two golf advices to end the week

848
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 3: here on a Thursday afternoon. Do you have anything you

849
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 3: want to throw my way?

850
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: Oh?

851
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got a couple of golf advices. All right, okay,

852
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: all right, let me pull this up, all right, wrap

853
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: it up to tip or not to tip? Tipping is

854
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 2: a hot topic in America, so let's let's bring it

855
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:41,760
Speaker 2: to golf here. Yep, all right. I'm forty eight, two kids,

856
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 2: and have no interest in fighting that is that.

857
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 3: Is sweeping the nation as the appropriate way to introduce yourself.

858
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: Okay. During a recent trip to Scotland, I was paired

859
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: up with two guys to play an unnamed course featuring

860
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: a large hill that hosted a Scottish up and one

861
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 2: by my boy Ricky. All right, I think we know

862
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 2: that was going on because of a previously underwhelming caddy

863
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 2: experience at that course, I decided to go without huh.

864
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: I was paired up with two guys in their sixties

865
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 2: that will call Ed and Larry. They took caddies who

866
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 2: will call Sam and Josh. Both of these guys were

867
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 2: maybe twenty. Hold on, I gotta just text my wife back.

868
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: She asked a pressing question.

869
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,720
Speaker 3: Uh oh, you got school. You gotta get the daughter

870
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: out ready for school?

871
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 2: The new yeah, she asked. She just woke up and

872
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 2: she asked, are you in the shed?

873
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:41,800
Speaker 3: So that's I am talking about Gallin caddies, all right,

874
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 3: go ahead.

875
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,879
Speaker 2: From the beginning, Ed and Larry seem to view these

876
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 2: caddies as staff rather than as as an enjoyable part

877
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 2: of their experience, not really conversing with them, which I

878
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: thought was strange. A lot of Scottish caddies are also

879
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: like members at the course. You know. It's like the

880
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,239
Speaker 2: backwards thing about golf in America versus Scotland, right, you know,

881
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,040
Speaker 2: like these people are proud of their course, the caddy

882
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: for the visitors. They want the visitors to come on

883
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 2: the first green. Sam asked if any of us had

884
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 2: a preference on taking the pin out. I said that

885
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 2: I prefer pins out but was fine with whatever Ed

886
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 2: pins in. Larry wanted pins in on putts over twenty feet.

887
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 3: God, these guys are in their twenties, right, I mean

888
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 3: the caddies are in the twenties, all right.

889
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 2: The other guys are in their sixties, you know.

890
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

891
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 2: It was probably on around the third hole that I

892
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: began conversing with Josh and Sam about their plans for

893
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:46,279
Speaker 2: university past visits to the US. I was encouraging a

894
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: future visit to the nicest city in the Midwest. I

895
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 2: can imagine that was Cleveland and what it's like to

896
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 2: grow up in Scotland. Ed and Larry weren't interested. They

897
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 2: weren't playing well and quickly transferred into those two angry

898
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 2: guys in the balcony on the Muppets. The congelial conversation

899
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 2: with Josh and Sam confused throughout the round. As we

900
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:16,040
Speaker 2: walked off eighteen, Larry walked over and curaged me to

901
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 2: kick in some pounds for the tip. Clearly I had

902
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: a puzzled look on my face because Ed said, look,

903
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: you had them remove pins for you, and you spent

904
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: way more time with them than we did. Feeling pressure

905
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:37,439
Speaker 2: and recalling my lack of interest in fighting. I gave

906
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: Larry a twenty I didn't have pounds currency, so he

907
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: gave him a twenty dollars American bill and asked him

908
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: if that would work, to which he said, it will

909
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: have to, Won't it needless to say? I chose not

910
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 2: to enjoy a pint with them after the round. Here's

911
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 2: my question? Should I have tipped? What's the etiquette for this?

912
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 2: I didn't want a caddy, However, the caddies were indeed

913
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 2: part of my experience, as they did indeed pullpins and

914
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: did indeed speak to me when spoken to? Is that

915
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 2: grounds for tipping? If so, how much I need a ruling?

916
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not grounds for tipping, but given these

917
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 3: two other yahoos that you were with, it's grounds for

918
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: human decency that these caddies needed to be shown right,

919
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 3: that they had to put up with these two jokers

920
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 3: who sound awful, terrible, who have apparently no shame in

921
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:37,360
Speaker 3: asking you to kick in money like I would. I

922
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't have zero comfort or justification for asking some third

923
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 3: non caddy taking member for kicking money. These guys suck,

924
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 3: they're terrible, So I think it is as it's compan

925
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 3: upon you as a member of humanity to throw in

926
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 3: some money to take care of these guys because they're

927
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:58,919
Speaker 3: not being well taken care of by these two other

928
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 3: guys who shouldn't be jamming you asking you that they

929
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 3: have zero shame to even ask you. I think you

930
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 3: got a tip just in this circumstance. I don't think

931
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 3: it's common. You don't have to tip. You know, if

932
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 3: guys find your ball, they're chasing your card or whatever,

933
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 3: it is, like, yeah, throw them some money. But I

934
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,719
Speaker 3: didn't think, you know, in normal circumstances like this one,

935
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,239
Speaker 3: it just for pulling a few pins and talking to

936
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 3: the person. I don't think you have to tip, and

937
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 3: you hope that the guys who took the caddies take

938
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 3: good and well care of the person. They clearly aren't,

939
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: so I think, as a member of humanity, you should

940
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 3: tip and throw in whatever you can here so that

941
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: those guys are taken care of.

942
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:39,120
Speaker 2: That's where I'm at, Listen. I always think if if

943
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: you're you need to have an openness to the tipping

944
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: of a caddy, if you're if you're not a caddy,

945
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 2: or if you're not using a caddy, right, if there's

946
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: a caddy inner group. They're probably helping you out, and

947
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 2: it's a nice thing to do. So I think I

948
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,719
Speaker 2: don't do I think I think that should be up

949
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: to you. I don't think Larry and Ed should be

950
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: coercing you, but I do believe that that the right

951
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 2: procedure here. As a former caddy, I always loved when

952
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 2: I get a tip from somebody that I wasn't caddying for.

953
00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: It was like a nice thing because listen, you're helping

954
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: them out. You might be given some reads, you're pulling

955
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 2: the pin. That's one less thing they don't have to do.

956
00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: It doesn't The tip does not need to be requisite

957
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: of a tip that you would give the person caddying

958
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: for you. It can be much smaller, like a twenty

959
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 2: bucks that ten goes to each guy. That's a good tip.

960
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 2: That just you know, the key with caddying, anything you

961
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 2: get on top of what you're expecting is always a

962
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:47,800
Speaker 2: nice surprise.

963
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think, like reading the room here, these

964
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 3: guys are gonna get jammed by the Ed Larry anyways,

965
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 3: So just like kind of you know.

966
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: As a former caddy, I would have read.

967
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 3: That room and been like, I need to get these

968
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 3: guys some money because these other two guys are jerks.

969
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 3: All right, all right, you do one more? One more

970
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 3: here I read the one you sent me. Yeah, sure

971
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,240
Speaker 3: you want to do that, Yeah, all right, blank member

972
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 3: guest was a few weeks ago. My buddy in on

973
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:19,840
Speaker 3: day two and the final nine hole match of the

974
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,840
Speaker 3: standard five. On the match's third hole, the guest of

975
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 3: my friend knocked it, knocked it in on two on

976
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 3: a par five. He rolls a putt up to what

977
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: the caddy said was eight feet. My buddy said it

978
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 3: was nine feet and what the opponent said was almost

979
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 3: a foot, so some discrepancy there. We had eight to

980
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: nine and then the opponent said almost a foot. So

981
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: this is the last of five matches. The guest opponent says,

982
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 3: from across the green, that's pretty good. And my friends

983
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 3: Evans scholar caddy, so presumably someone who been around the

984
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 3: block picked up the ball. Immediately they go, we didn't

985
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 3: say that's good. Loss a hole and move on to

986
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 3: the next tee. They ask if they can just put

987
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 3: it back and put it and they say no, they

988
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 3: didn't know the change in the rule. My buddy ends

989
00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 3: up losing the match and the flight by half a point.

990
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 3: And the guys that win the flight are the guys

991
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 3: that pulled the stunt. They refuse to admit that it

992
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 3: was a cheap shot. The caddy feels awful and what

993
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 3: levels so yeah, naturally, what level of shame should these

994
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 3: guys feel? And how much hate absolute avoidance should my

995
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: buddy have for the other member going forward?

996
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: This is this is a bad move. You you keep

997
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 2: this look.

998
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 3: Caddy made a mistake kind of this is you said,

999
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 3: that's pretty good.

1000
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,680
Speaker 2: This kid, it's a kid too. The kids make it.

1001
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 2: This is not the USAM where the caddy made the mistake,

1002
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 2: and like this high stakes match. Also, you know Strafaci's

1003
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 2: dad just helicoptering in. There was a bad oh.

1004
00:57:52,840 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, like Frank or whatever, Okay.

1005
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 2: Frank juire being the loudest you know in the room,

1006
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: and that was it was a really bad look. But

1007
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: this this is awful because like the kid who's presumably

1008
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 2: like under twenty two, this is not this is not

1009
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 2: a thirty five year old caddy. This is like a

1010
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 2: kid is the one that leaves this feeling the worst.

1011
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 2: Like the guys that finished a half point out, they're

1012
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 2: gonna get over this. Whatever the kid is the one

1013
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: that's the most impacted, probably felt terrible the rest of

1014
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 2: the afternoon, probably felt terrible that night, Like probably you know,

1015
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 2: if he's an evant scholar, takes caddying very seriously, is

1016
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 2: a big part of his life and is the one

1017
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: that's the greatest impact. Here is somebody that's developing as

1018
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 2: a human being. And I think that's the shitty thing

1019
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 2: with this whole thing, And those guys should not only

1020
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: be extracized by you, but the club as a greater hole,

1021
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 2: as this was a real bad look. This is this

1022
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: is a this is not something that we can done.

1023
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 2: And the club, the club almost should have stepped in

1024
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 2: and been like, no, that's not cool, Like they should

1025
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,680
Speaker 2: have been able to put it. That's pretty good. That's

1026
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: just something you don't say, yeah, that's it. It should

1027
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: be that's close enough, that's close enough to good, that's good,

1028
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 2: that it it is. I I think that this is

1029
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 2: actually a failure of club leadership to be completely honest.

1030
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 3: And the interesting thing is, like, you know you're going

1031
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 3: to encounter this person. This is part of the question.

1032
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: Should how much absolute avoidant should my buddy have for

1033
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,840
Speaker 3: the other member? I'd say absolute pretty complete now you're

1034
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 3: gonna be able to with a lot of these members,

1035
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 3: these member guests, like you end up in the same

1036
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,479
Speaker 3: flight year over year. You know you're gonna probably play

1037
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,120
Speaker 3: them again at some point, and so I don't know,

1038
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 3: I just keep that buried down, just avoid avoid this,

1039
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,200
Speaker 3: kind of avoid the ed and Larry from the prior.

1040
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 3: Like I just like I just don't be that guy

1041
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 3: in the golf course. Don't be don't be so competitive

1042
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 3: about a thing that quite honestly, this is not that

1043
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 3: big a deal. It's a member guest, it's not the USAM.

1044
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: As you said, you just can't lose your head. You

1045
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 3: can't be an asshole, be a human. And yeah, it's

1046
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 3: a bad, bad look. And I would avoid this guy

1047
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,200
Speaker 3: as much as possible going forward at your club.

1048
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: So all right, is that it? Yeah? I would also say, yeah,

1049
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 2: just in general, when when this guy Bob will just

1050
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 2: call him Bob, emails the or message to you about

1051
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 2: playing golf, or you see him on the range and

1052
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 2: he asks if you want to play some holes or

1053
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:41,600
Speaker 2: he could join up, I would just say, you know what,

1054
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 2: I'm good, dude, that's pretty good. But I would I

1055
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 2: would actually say that's pretty good. But no thanks. I

1056
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: would be using that's pretty good as often as possible.

1057
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 2: That's good. I like that.

1058
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: All right, that does it for this pretty good episode.

1059
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: A combo Thursday Friday episode a little longer, but we

1060
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 3: got a few different kinds of segments. Ready for the NFL,

1061
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 3: ready for the Irish Open coffee golf. Everyone enjoy your weekends. Hey,

1062
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 3: thank you for your support and the pro shop with

1063
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 3: some of the fifty year anniversary items a good celebration

1064
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 3: of this community over the last five years, So thank

1065
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: you for going and kind of Jason Page for the

1066
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 3: design for that. So everyone enjoy you want to get

1067
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 3: in there? Did you want to say something about all right?

1068
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1069
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 3: There's yeah, still some stuff left if you want to

1070
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 3: order it. I think hats shirts, We've got to restock

1071
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:48,440
Speaker 3: the weekock of.

1072
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 2: You know, the fountains shirts. I'm gonna have to patiently

1073
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 2: wait for my Justic Guy hat.

1074
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 3: The Justic Guy hats are just amazing. They're really really good,

1075
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 3: are right this time? The simplicity of them by Jason

1076
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Speaker 3: it just all works out.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: Everyone, enjoy your weekends, Enjoy your Fridays or Thursdays, whatever

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Speaker 3: it is you're listening enjoy the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with you on Monday. Victory Monday