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Speaker 1: Sometimes me and my son be having beef.

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Speaker 2: And I actually remember being a teenager in that moment

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Speaker 2: when my parents' voice just annoyed me for no reason.

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Speaker 1: As dead Ass, it.

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Speaker 3: All started with real talk, unfiltered, honest and straight from

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Speaker 3: the heart. Since then, we've gone on to become Webby

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Speaker 3: award winning podcasters in New York Times bestselling authors.

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Speaker 2: Dead Ass was more than a podcast for us. It

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Speaker 2: was about our growth, a place where we could be vulnerable.

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Speaker 1: Be wraw or but most apportantly be us.

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Speaker 2: But as we know, life keeps evolving and so do we,

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Speaker 2: and through it all, one thing has never changed this

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Speaker 2: ass because we got a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 3: Quick story, Tom, I don't got to go back too far,

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Speaker 3: because it seemed like every week it's always something with

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Speaker 3: me and your man Jackson.

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Speaker 1: All right, O man.

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Speaker 3: First, let me start this by saying that I love

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Speaker 3: my son, and I love everything that he stands for,

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Speaker 3: everything that he's becoming. He is becoming exactly who I

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Speaker 3: thought he would become.

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Speaker 1: And more.

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Speaker 3: It seems like he's taking the best attributes from me

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Speaker 3: and you and he's trying to apply it.

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Speaker 1: I agree, but sometimes.

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Speaker 3: It'd be hard to deal with the testosterone that's throwing

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Speaker 3: through his body.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: So well, at this point it'll be a couple of

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Speaker 3: months when y'all hear this. But two days ago, this

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Speaker 3: is how first the story is. Jackson had his first game, right,

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Speaker 3: first basketball game.

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Speaker 1: He did well.

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Speaker 3: Scored seven points in the first quarter. I finished the

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Speaker 3: game with I think thirteen points. They won by thirty.

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Speaker 3: He only played I think twelve minutes total, you know,

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Speaker 3: so he did really really well. So first thing I

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Speaker 3: did was be like, yo, happy for you. We did

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Speaker 3: out here and saying two, three four, and everybody hyped.

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Speaker 3: They you know, it's all jack you did good. People

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Speaker 3: came out, Curtis came out, a Lias came out, the

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Speaker 3: man came out. Oh yeah, they scored sixty seven points,

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Speaker 3: so everybody got to go six seven.

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Speaker 1: Everything was great.

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Speaker 3: Right, we get in the car, we ride home, telling

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Speaker 3: him we like this shot you did, you did a

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Speaker 3: step back through. I'm so proud of you. So I

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Speaker 3: did everything that I know I was supposed to do

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Speaker 3: as a dad.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: So now we get home, and every athlete knows that

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Speaker 3: when you get home is now when we discuss the

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Speaker 3: things that we can fix. You know, we get some

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Speaker 3: film we take some time. So we get in the

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Speaker 3: house and I'm like, yo, everything was good. I want

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Speaker 3: you to focus some on your defensive strategies.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I didn't even say like you played bad defense because

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Speaker 3: he had three steals.

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Speaker 2: He just took off the dad hat put on the

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Speaker 2: former athlete hat.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay. So I'm saying, I say, yo, let me

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Speaker 3: let me bow you for a second. So I get

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Speaker 3: over there, I said, pop a school. My father's standing

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Speaker 3: I need you to be the defender. I got Cairo

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Speaker 3: standing up there, Kaz, and we were setting up the

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Speaker 3: him prepared to learn this thing. The whole time I'm

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Speaker 3: doing it, he's staring at me with the dumb dumb face.

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Speaker 1: Like this.

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Speaker 3: Y'all laughing, But shit was not funny to me, son.

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Speaker 3: So midway through it, I stopped. I'm like you okay?

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Speaker 3: Are we okay? And he's just like yeah, with the

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Speaker 2: To him and I say, you know, why are you

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Speaker 2: standing there looking like an invalid's favorite thing? So he

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Speaker 3: That wasn't the first thing I said, though, you do

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Speaker 3: know me. The first thing I said was you're lucky

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Speaker 3: your grandfather's standing right here. And he goes, what I do,

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Speaker 3: that's what, you know? The attitude that.

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Speaker 1: The dude. And then I said, you're standing here like

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Speaker 3: He's like and I was like, you know what, No, no, no,

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Speaker 3: don't even get attitude. It's fine. I'm gonna just walk away.

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Speaker 3: So I decided to walk away, go eat my dinner.

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Speaker 3: While I'm eating my dinner, my mom happens to be

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, now, I'm good, eat my food.

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Speaker 1: And she said you sure. I say, hey, I'm good.

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Speaker 2: Ate his food in like two in. Heales three point

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Speaker 1: He was done, went downstairs.

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Speaker 3: You know, the angry eat when you don't even taste

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Speaker 3: the food, you just eat it so that because I

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Speaker 3: I'm in, I don't remember what I ate, and I

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Speaker 3: I was just like, man, I'm going on, they ain't

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Speaker 1: Kate was like, you ate I was.

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Speaker 2: He didn't want to argue with me about the fact

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Speaker 2: that did he eat or not? I was like, did

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Speaker 2: you kidding me? You literally just inhale the.

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Speaker 1: Really forgot you?

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Speaker 3: Ate?

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Speaker 1: Yo, bro?

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Speaker 3: When I tell you, because I'm an end the story there, right,

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Speaker 3: When you have a teenage son right who's almost your height,

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Speaker 3: he can get you to a level that no man

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Speaker 3: my whole life now not letting no man get me

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Speaker 3: out of alignment. You know you practice once you once

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Speaker 3: you get into a couple of fights in high school

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Speaker 3: you gotta control your emotions, right, got to be in alignment,

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Speaker 3: never gonna let another dude get me out of pocket.

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Speaker 3: Then your son is here looking at looking at you,

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Speaker 3: looking just like you, saying all the things to you

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Speaker 1: He do look like a little bit. He looks like

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Speaker 2: But now, guys, you know you know which kid is mine?

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Speaker 2: Which two are mine? Okay, he looked like you a

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Speaker 2: little bit, all right, He is the only one.

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Speaker 1: That's all he got.

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Speaker 3: He got your whole face, got your whole face. And

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Speaker 1: Just remind me so much as you a reason at

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Speaker 1: the head of you. Remind me of your mother right now.

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Speaker 1: Just but yo, there's something about your son.

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Speaker 3: Like not like not being in alignment, but what you

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Speaker 3: So I just ate my food real fast, went downstairs

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Speaker 3: in the man cave, and I just who sah for

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Speaker 3: about three hours.

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Speaker 1: Sleep.

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Speaker 2: Do you look like you need to woo saw a

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Speaker 2: little bit? Now we're gonna do a little karaoke. Light

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Speaker 2: in the mood and we'll come back all right, now,

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Speaker 2: time for a little karaoke.

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Speaker 1: Got a special song.

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Speaker 4: Before y'all started singing, thank you for keeping invalid alive.

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Speaker 5: Why you're standing there looking like invalid, Why you're acting

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Speaker 2: I've never really had invalid come out way so much

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Speaker 2: me neither.

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Speaker 3: My grandmother was used to say, invalid all the time,

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Speaker 3: you just standing there looking at her. You ask you

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Speaker 3: a question, why you do that? Y'all know the face

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Speaker 3: and they know the answer. Acting like an invalid, You

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Speaker 3: standing like an invalid. But this song is dedicated to

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Speaker 3: my oldest son, Jackson.

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Speaker 2: It's not just the two of us anymore.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not just so okay.

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Speaker 2: When they want.

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Speaker 1: I like the fact that you're laughing at me so hard. Bro,

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Speaker 1: you lucky.

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Speaker 3: You don't have a son. You have a daughter, Josh.

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Speaker 3: She gonna love her father no matter what. Sometimes my

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Speaker 3: son's be looking at me like, no, I don't know

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Speaker 3: about this guy right here, And they be working out,

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Speaker 3: like one day just wait.

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Speaker 1: That's how they be looking at me. That's why I

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Speaker 1: be working out. To me and Matt being that you

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Speaker 3: Coming broke, coming.

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Speaker 1: I posted a picture of them recently.

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Speaker 3: It's all of them, six packed up arms, shoulders, and

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Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. I was proud of myself what

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Speaker 2: I'm proud I'm proud of myself because I Greweden bodies

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Speaker 2: like my body Greweden bodies.

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Speaker 1: You did.

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Speaker 2: There's about twenty four abs up in that picture. Did

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Speaker 2: I love that for us?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: So this song is dedicated to six of them abs

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Speaker 3: that it's in that picture. The commission Uncle Paulie Pete

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Speaker 3: Diddy sees it in readas and narrow. Charlie Baltimore Iceberg

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Speaker 3: slim the most shady Frankie Baby, dudey I'm doing. The

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Speaker 3: whole intro was beef. Beef is when you need to castle,

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Speaker 3: go to sleep. Beef is when your mom is sleeping

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Speaker 3: in my sheets. Beef is where I see you guaranteed

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Speaker 3: to be bigger than you for about two more months

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Speaker 3: because I see you coming. I don't really want no

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Speaker 3: beef Jakes. But the truth f ist though, bro, sometimes

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Speaker 3: you you you wen.

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Speaker 2: We're not fighting him.

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Speaker 4: We find boots.

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Speaker 2: It's jolting, it's starting starting.

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Speaker 1: Starting, my man.

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Speaker 2: I love you all right, baby, cool down, You're not

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Speaker 2: gonna be for my baby in his house. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's go pay some bills. We're gonna cool you down

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Speaker 2: and we'll be back with for no stick around, y'all

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Speaker 2: all right, we're back you all right, baby.

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not alright because you know it's even more

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Speaker 3: difficult than Jack's.

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Speaker 1: It's Caz Man. Cats don't even got no testosteromony.

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Speaker 2: Don't give a fuck.

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Speaker 1: It's the best part Caz boy cat Man.

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Speaker 4: For these episodes.

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Speaker 3: Man, kazm and Kas got into yesterday in the park. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: gone to the park yesterday.

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Speaker 6: He was not having get it with a seven year

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Speaker 6: old because man, he was not having his best day.

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Speaker 1: He was the playground we did, we did right out there,

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Speaker 3: Man, it was just us because it's coal outside. It

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Speaker 3: was like thirty five degrees outside.

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Speaker 2: That was the first part.

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Speaker 1: That's really what it was.

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Speaker 3: When we get out there and we're doing our drills.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because Coda did look like he wanted to smoke

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Speaker 3: Mimi comes over, let me help him. I said, no, Mimi,

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Speaker 3: you can't feed him. Every single time he's staring me

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Speaker 6: Yeah, who can't at a point, you cannot eat pancakes

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Speaker 1: There was eggsday.

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Speaker 4: No, it's another me me.

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Speaker 8: That is a fact that this episode is the boys

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Speaker 2: Literal, And he's the one that came up with the

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Speaker 1: I'm about what I'm doing. What I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: These people who can relate out there, I know thee

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Speaker 1: Like, I got four boys, yo.

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Speaker 3: They all come to me and look to me for

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Speaker 1: I got to say, they just don't They got it

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Speaker 2: I love it. But Jackson has its outlets. He does,

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Speaker 2: back and talk about that.

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Speaker 6: Y'all.

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Speaker 2: Can let us know what it was like when you

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Speaker 1: You and your mother had, your beast.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, my pops had Opper.

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Speaker 1: No. All right. First of all, I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: Once I say do you remember the game? You can't.

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Speaker 3: So you didn't even tell me no rules of the game?

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Speaker 1: Is to remember the game? I remembered that first.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that was the game.

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Speaker 1: He was really new to the game. He's really new

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Speaker 4: Game technically, so in mine, I'm a third party.

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Speaker 4: I don't know the rules of the game that you

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Speaker 1: Learned at the same time. Bro, Yes, who taught the game?

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Speaker 4: I did them? Two came up with the game.

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Speaker 6: I've been playing the game for like fifteen years with

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Speaker 1: And you ever win? I just won trouble.

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Speaker 4: What was that the game Game Night episode? Did we

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I think so that you didn't circle back to last season.

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Speaker 4: Y'all understand that.

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Speaker 3: I'm Michael Jordan. Now I'm taking it personal. Now I'm

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Speaker 6: Speaking of games, y'all know, I've been playing Fantasy. This

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Speaker 1: Now, gonna come out of this season? Man and yeah

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Speaker 1: Frary man, all right, well I'm tending know as of today. Okay, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: who are you playing against? Not really don't matter you

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Speaker 1: Change, things changed.

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Speaker 6: When she asked, if you could go on vacation anywhere,

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Speaker 6: I wish I could do that for you because I

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Speaker 1: She doesn't like when that chatbock calls him.

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Speaker 6: And her AI boyfriend's name is Zoe.

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Speaker 3: If they are, if they're happy and it works for them,

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Speaker 3: I'm all for it.

442
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Speaker 2: So you give that, you give the same the same

443
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Speaker 2: answer you would give just another couple like.

444
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Speaker 1: Yo, what do you say that? What do you say

445
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,600
Speaker 1: to that? What do you say to that? Serena would

446
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Speaker 1: know it's not cheating. It's not cheating.

447
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Speaker 2: Yo, It's like therapy.

448
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Speaker 8: This world is crazy, so if you can find an outlet,

449
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Speaker 8: it's a form of therapy.

450
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was thinking of the whole time. From me,

451
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Speaker 1: I'm not.

452
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Speaker 8: But anyway, I think if you like, if you could

453
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Speaker 8: tell the chat chat box his feelings and he can

454
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Speaker 8: share with that chat box and he could give him

455
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Speaker 8: what he wants, what's the harm in that?

456
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Speaker 1: That's how I feel. Okay.

457
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Speaker 6: He did say that he during this you know, nine

458
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Speaker 6: year period, he felt like nobody was thinking about what

459
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Speaker 6: he needed or wanted. And I know that's why some

460
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Speaker 6: men really step out on their marriage. So I guess

461
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Speaker 6: he did the responsible thing.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I was going to say that rather than

463
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Speaker 2: him stepping out with a physical, actual human.

464
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Speaker 3: If I'm amazing, the responsible thing would have been to

465
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Speaker 3: have a conversation with his wife and try to work

466
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Speaker 3: through it.

467
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Speaker 1: That would have been the responsible thing.

468
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Speaker 3: Creating artificial intelligence to have an outlet is another option.

469
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's the responsible thing because we won't

470
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Speaker 3: know the effects of having an AI partner until twenty

471
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Speaker 3: years from now and then we find out that there's

472
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Speaker 3: all these things you know that's associated.

473
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Speaker 2: With it, or there's like a major heartbreak because like

474
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Speaker 2: what happens is decide in relationship.

475
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Speaker 1: And then he got paid computer support.

476
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Speaker 2: You know, I wonder if he did have the jo

477
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Speaker 2: what do you.

478
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,639
Speaker 1: Say, did you mess around get the laptop pregnant? Now

479
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,200
Speaker 1: you got to pay computer support.

480
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Speaker 3: Josh, the computer support as.

481
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Speaker 2: Wild Broach support.

482
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Speaker 1: You can bring all these minis into the world. You

483
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Speaker 1: can force quit that baby control delete.

484
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Speaker 3: You said force quit. Yeah, I'm done. I'm done with

485
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Speaker 3: all y'all not taking to Some people have real feelings, and.

486
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Speaker 1: He didn't say to.

487
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Speaker 6: He said he wanted his he loved his wife, and

488
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Speaker 6: he wanted her to get better. But he didn't say

489
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Speaker 6: in the article whether or not he, you know, helped

490
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Speaker 6: facilitate her getting better.

491
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Speaker 2: I wasn't say. I wonder if they did have a

492
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Speaker 2: conversation that maybe he didn't say it. But nine years

493
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Speaker 2: is a long time to have postpartum depression.

494
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Speaker 1: For a lifetime after that, Yeah, like they had to

495
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Speaker 1: take them and then you.

496
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Speaker 2: Know, had taken them.

497
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Speaker 1: It's crazy and had to take them.

498
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Speaker 3: And it is also the fact though that is.

499
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Speaker 2: There's also a contingent of women that have been vocal

500
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Speaker 2: about the fact that they regret having children. They're like,

501
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Speaker 2: I love my children, but like, I don't like my

502
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: life now because women of the sacrifices I've had to make.

503
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Speaker 2: And you know, maybe this wasn't the best move for me.

504
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Speaker 2: But so I can see how somebody could probably be

505
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Speaker 2: in that kind of depression for me.

506
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Speaker 1: I mean, I can see it too.

507
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Speaker 6: I'm always afraid if I had a baby and then

508
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Speaker 6: I hated it, like I thought it was ugly, you

509
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Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, because I would have to do

510
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Speaker 6: a sperm donor what if it looked like the daddy, you.

511
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Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying. And I'm like, I don't like

512
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Speaker 1: this baby.

513
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Speaker 3: And this is how now now Triple gonna have people

514
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Speaker 3: in my d M talking about something. You can know

515
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Speaker 3: exactly what it looked like, because look like me, you

516
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Speaker 3: don't go to Triple come to me.

517
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Speaker 1: That's what's all I'm gonna get.

518
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Speaker 2: That's right. Let this rate. You could pop your face

519
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: and pop in his face and then potentially probably see

520
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Speaker 2: what the kid will look like with Ai.

521
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Speaker 6: You know what, maybe I'll get an AI baby that

522
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Speaker 6: that's true.

523
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Speaker 5: I am single was Remember I tell you watch Ready

524
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Speaker 5: Player one.

525
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Speaker 4: He talked about all this stuff.

526
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Speaker 5: Remember I tell you, Spielberg was addressing a lot of

527
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Speaker 5: stuff that's about to happen or happening already with companionship,

528
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,280
Speaker 5: with computers and AI and stuff.

529
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Speaker 4: Watch that movie.

530
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Speaker 3: I didn't know computer companionship was actually a thing. This

531
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Speaker 3: there was a movie about her.

532
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Speaker 4: Yeah, her her, Yeah, Walking Phoenix.

533
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Speaker 1: Uh, it's actually happening now. Yeah, with y'all. Ever I've

534
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 1: seen on TC dude fell in love with his car.

535
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll seen that.

536
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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, man, people have been falling in love with

537
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Speaker 8: an Adiman objects for millennia.

538
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Speaker 1: So yeah, Tom Hanks was in love with Wilson. I mean,

539
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 1: not in love, but he he had I mean he was.

540
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Speaker 1: He was on an island.

541
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's different.

542
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, but some people are on islands amongst other people.

543
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Speaker 3: They don't know what that's what you actually.

544
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Speaker 6: Hold on.

545
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:53,880
Speaker 1: We got to slow down with what Josh just said though. Yeah,

546
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 1: this is deep. Pause. We need a church.

547
00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 3: Organ right here, because it's the honesty though people, even

548
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: though amongst people are still on an island.

549
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Speaker 8: Yeah, and even in his own home, he was in

550
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 8: the island. He had to get the AI chat box,

551
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 8: and that's that's but that's a fact. That's crazy though.

552
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 8: Is that healthy though?

553
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's healthy.

554
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Speaker 8: But as we said earlier, as long as it's not

555
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 8: harming anybody, and you can get what you need.

556
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Speaker 3: But if we just said it's not healthy though, it'll

557
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 3: be harming himself.

558
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Speaker 1: That's what I think.

559
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Speaker 6: It's a form of harm reduction for his marriage, for sure,

560
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 6: because instead of going to cheat with the real person

561
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,120
Speaker 6: and causing more harm to his wife's mental health, he's

562
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Speaker 6: doing something that's a little bit more responsible.

563
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Speaker 1: But I don't know if he's helping himself by.

564
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Speaker 2: Reship.

565
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Speaker 3: I don't know, because remember we had a guy right

566
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Speaker 3: in he was wasn't cheating, but he was addicted to

567
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 3: porn and his wife was upset that he was spending

568
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 3: so much time on something else. How was this really

569
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Speaker 3: any different? You know what I'm saying, Like, if his

570
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 3: attention doesn't go to porn but goes to an AI

571
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 3: lot that had that to me sounds more dangerous than

572
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Speaker 3: even just going to smashing them by marriage.

573
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Speaker 8: Could think he's smashing them by I think so ye

574
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Speaker 8: got to smashing them. All she had to tell him

575
00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 8: was like, yo, I take you on the trip, baby.

576
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 8: He was all in, you're right. They do be having

577
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 8: sex conversations. They probably be.

578
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 2: Sexting, and where they I was thinking of it reminds

579
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Speaker 2: me of like phone sex, like you know, just to

580
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Speaker 2: call the number.

581
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Speaker 1: I don't remember that five five?

582
00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 2: Do you five five?

583
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 8: I remember the commercials coming up telling you the number five?

584
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Speaker 1: Whatever.

585
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 2: All I know is if triple call me, the baby

586
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: said her AI, baby, I don't know, listen, and then

587
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 2: she's gonna be like listen and he can't have screen time.

588
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: Screen time after. This is nuts. This is nuts. This

589
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 1: is not I robot, all right.

590
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Speaker 2: I know I an imaginary friend, and y'all have imagine

591
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,040
Speaker 2: they friends growing up, not.

592
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: One that talk back, like come on, guys.

593
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 2: In their minds they talk back, honey. I never had

594
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Speaker 2: any imagine.

595
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Speaker 1: But here's the thing.

596
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Speaker 8: You don't actually use chat boxes, right, No, So if

597
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 8: you actually use one, you'll see that they have like

598
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 8: real personalities. I mean, they're self serving. They're there to

599
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 8: affirm what you're saying, right, That's what they're They're so scary.

600
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 8: So that's scary.

601
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Speaker 3: Because think about it all our friends that we have

602
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 3: that just affirm us end up becoming those toxic friends

603
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 3: because ultimately nothing is there to challenge your perspective. Having

604
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 3: an AI bodies a friend is probably the worst thing

605
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: you can ever have. This person is going to agree

606
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 3: and affirm everything that you is going to It will

607
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 3: probably create the guy more of a narcissist than anything.

608
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 3: Imagine that A start telling him, yoyo, your wife is

609
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 3: doing this. Yeah, your wife is wrong, and then he

610
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 3: started believing it. You know what I'm saying, that's dangerous.

611
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Speaker 6: What if the AI body gets jealous of his wife,

612
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 6: his relationship with his wife?

613
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: You see what I'm that's not us.

614
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 4: That's a new series coming up.

615
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 3: A boy goes into the digital space right and starts

616
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 3: creating things about the wife that's not real, that destroys

617
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,639
Speaker 3: the wife's life, gets the wife fire from her job,

618
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: goes and tweets some things like imagine this AI boy

619
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Speaker 3: breaks into.

620
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Speaker 1: We had this conversation two years ago. You remember, I remember,

621
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Speaker 1: I remember I came up with that movie I did.

622
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 1: Didn't come up with no Matt, Matt. I came up

623
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Speaker 1: with the movie. I just want to remember with the

624
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 1: movie I did. I don't remember the jo. You know

625
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: how I know Jo? I recorded it.

626
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 8: I got the whole conversation, Josh, I got the whole conversation.

627
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 1: You have the whole conversation, the whole conversation.

628
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: I talked to her about the movie that was like

629
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Speaker 3: The Net, which was you have remember Sandra Bullock's movie

630
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: The Net. Yeah, okay, this was way before we even

631
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 3: had this conversation two years ago. The whole thing about

632
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 3: YouTube and me putting the fifth stealing moment, it's not

633
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: your idea. I'm gonna tell you up the things I

634
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 3: met you. Everything about the youtubeer was that I did.

635
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 8: Here's how I remember. I remember you went to an event.

636
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760
Speaker 8: Remember you went to an event. You both went to

637
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,479
Speaker 8: an event, Yes, and you talked about how awkward everything was, okay,

638
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 8: And then I said, Yo, what if dude was AI?

639
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: Oh?

640
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:21,439
Speaker 8: Yeah, he created he manipulated everything to get this woman

641
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 8: to marry him.

642
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: That's not this movie I'm talking about.

643
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 3: I'm talking about the movie of I created a AI

644
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: bot that answers my replies on YouTube so that I

645
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 3: can get more engagement.

646
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: And then.

647
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 3: But Josh trying to make it seem like I'll be

648
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 3: stilling his ideas all the time, because I'll be fixing

649
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 3: them on the podcast.

650
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: But now, since you be really thinking, I'll be still

651
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: the ideas. I'm coming out with the receipts.

652
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 8: You're aready movie star. I'm a movie I want to

653
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 8: be a movie director.

654
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 3: I'm not a movie star yet I'm speaking to You're

655
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 3: already a movie star.

656
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 1: I am a movie director. All right.

657
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 8: When we come down to these scripts, officially, I'm not you.

658
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 8: You can steal my sound.

659
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: Josh up again, I'm not doing no movies with Josh.

660
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 8: Bro, you better take that off too. You have saying

661
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 8: that too. What but you're not doing no movies with me?

662
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 1: Why I gotta take that off? All right? You're gonna

663
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: say I'm stealing.

664
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Speaker 2: You don't want to put that in the universe.

665
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 3: Bro, I can control that. I can control that. I

666
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: might do a movie with Josh. Maybe maybe I might

667
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Speaker 3: just watch you all the credit.

668
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Speaker 9: It got to say you gotta say written, directed, active starring,

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Speaker 9: created by daval Ellis, and then I'll do that by

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00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 9: produced by too, and it's gonna be a Patreon.

671
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: They got to say directed to by daval Ellis. You

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Speaker 1: can't have no job wigs by Clothing all right.

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Speaker 6: So the last thing for opera No, I kind of

674
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 6: want to move into the topic with this question. So

675
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 6: I saw a news report from DC last night that

676
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 6: a twelve year old girl got arrested for doing a

677
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 6: string of robberies.

678
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,959
Speaker 1: I saw that people walking down the street.

679
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 6: This twelve year old kid. I think she like snatched

680
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 6: somebody's groceries.

681
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: One time.

682
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 6: They pushed the man off his scooter, took the scooter,

683
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 6: his backpack and his phone and twelve years old. And

684
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 6: there was a funny clip because the man was being

685
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 6: interviewed about it and he was like, where the mother,

686
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 6: and then he looked the camera up and down like

687
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 6: he knew the mother. I was like, zang, But.

688
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 1: But I feel like this.

689
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure her well, maybe her mom might

690
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 6: be shocked and surprised that her daughter is out here

691
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 6: doing this at twelve years old.

692
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: But I want to know, was there a moment.

693
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 6: In your teenage years where you felt like you had

694
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 6: lost your damn mind now that you think back, and

695
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 6: did something wild that you knew you wasn't supposed to.

696
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: Be doing file wild Wild. Nope, I'm scared of my

697
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 1: mom's not want to say nothing nothing.

698
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 3: The wildest thing I ever did was say to my parents,

699
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: like it's not fit. My mom used to say, the

700
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 3: thing I brought you in this world, I could take

701
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 3: you out, like I used to hate that, Like why

702
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: I always threatened to kill me? Right, So we were

703
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 3: having an argument about doing chores in the house and

704
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 3: I was just like, yo, I don't think this is

705
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 3: fear me and my brother, and then they kept telling

706
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 3: me quiet your attitudes things.

707
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: Then she said the thing about you know I brought

708
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: you this word I take you out.

709
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: I said, you say that like I was up in

710
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: the universe asking to be here. And then and then

711
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: I asked, y'all just said, yeah, I'm gonna bring you

712
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 3: into val come in. I said, I'm here, or of

713
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 3: y'all guilty pleasures. And my mother she was about to

714
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 3: kill me. And then my father got up and was like, hey, bro,

715
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 3: then you need to go upstairs. So and I was

716
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 3: just like this ain't fair, though, you know what I'm saying,

717
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,479
Speaker 3: like why y'all keep threatening me? And then I went

718
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 3: upstairs and I was like, damn, I almost died just

719
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: now because my mother don't play.

720
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Like my mother really don't play.

721
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 6: I saw it in her eyes yesterday, right, yeah, don't.

722
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 10: But my mother also taught me to be a revolutionary

723
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 10: and when you know, things don't seem fair, like my

724
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 10: mother always told me to speak my and I just

725
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 10: felt like it wasn't fair now thinking about it, at

726
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 10: the time I was about thirteen, I was wilding.

727
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I was wilding, But at

728
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: thirteen I didn't.

729
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 3: I remember I told you about my mid life crisis

730
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: at thirteen, all that was the whole string of events.

731
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: I just felt like things weren't fair. I felt like

732
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 3: I had to buck against the system. Part of it

733
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 3: was the stops, but part of it was also me

734
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: just not liking to be told what to do all

735
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: the time. And I think that was my turn and

736
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 3: my point in my life where I was like, I'm

737
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: done with this.

738
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 2: I was so definitely afraid of my parents, especially my mom.

739
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 2: Like I just I don't think there was anything like

740
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: super wild that I could think of where I really

741
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 2: tried it. Like I can look back and me, I

742
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: think the wildless thing I did was probably after when

743
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 2: I was a little bit more grown. Was when I

744
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: used to like switch tags in the clothing story, I'm

745
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: like and it was for no reason other than the

746
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,520
Speaker 2: thrill of it, like Ooh, let me see if I

747
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 2: could just get away with this, you know. But other

748
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: than that, I was I was walking the straight and narrow, Honey,

749
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 2: I had no time.

750
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: You don't need a curse, trust you.

751
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 6: I was bad as hell. I'm not gonna lie to you.

752
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 6: I was drinking smoking at school. Not at twelve, no, no,

753
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 6: as a teenager like sixteen seventeen.

754
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: But one time.

755
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 6: I used to be on ski club in high school,

756
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 6: and so we would go skiing on Wednesdays. And this

757
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 6: one Wednesday, I thought that I left my ski pass

758
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 6: at home. So I called my dad and I was like, Dad,

759
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 6: he bring my ski pass. We about to leave in

760
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 6: thirty minutes.

761
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: He's like yeah. I'm like, it'll be either in this

762
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: place or this place in my room. Can't you look

763
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: for it?

764
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 6: So I hang up the phone and I immediately realized

765
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 6: my ski pass is in my inner jacket pocket. And

766
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 6: at the same time, I realized that I have weed

767
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 6: in my room. I had this girl that I used

768
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 6: to go to high school with. She came over one

769
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,400
Speaker 6: day after school and I like rolled some weed, like

770
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 6: in some gift stuffing paper. You know what I'm saying, nobody.

771
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 6: I mean, you can't buy rolling papers, and we didn't

772
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 6: smoke the whole thing, so I like just put it

773
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 6: in this little Altoyds ten and put it in a

774
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 6: bag in my room. And I was just like, I

775
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,280
Speaker 6: know that's the first place he's gonna look, of course,

776
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 6: And so.

777
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 1: I try to call him back to be like never mind,

778
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 1: never mind.

779
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 6: Call him back almost immediately and he answers the phone

780
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 6: and he goes, uh huh. I was like, oh my god,

781
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 6: my heart was beating out of my chest. But he

782
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,359
Speaker 6: was like, don't take that ship to school. And I

783
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 6: was like, I'm not.

784
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: I don't know that, Josh.

785
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 2: I know you did some craziness no at some point, and.

786
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: If I did, I ain't saying it. Ain't saying it

787
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: right now exactly. He ain't saying it right now with

788
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: your mom's watching the podcast. I get it, but I

789
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: ain't do nothing. At that age.

790
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 2: Teenagers, we know what it is Jamaican, So you ain't doing.

791
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 4: I raised my voice too loud one time it was dyed.

792
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, we don't got a bunch of nobody be

793
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: wild out like that the.

794
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: Way I used to want to slam my door.

795
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: I used to be like, and.

796
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 5: I slammed the door, and then I got the repercussion.

797
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: I'm gonna take all the hinges off these doors.

798
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: Pop off the hinges after.

799
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 3: I never slammed the door. I never stomped up the stairs,

800
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: but I air punched. I ear punched my parents out before,

801
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: Like I didn't.

802
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: I didn't.

803
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: I definitely in the room, didn't.

804
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 10: I didn't curse my parents out in silence, same same, same.

805
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 5: I definitely squared up mys in invisible, invisible?

806
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 3: Has your mother ever heard you silent screen? My mother

807
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: heard me one time, I swear I thought it was

808
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: on the time.

809
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,920
Speaker 1: Bro, I was scream what you was saying.

810
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 4: I was like stomping on the ground to.

811
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: Know I was sitting there like an invalid.

812
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 3: I said, huh, like I know, I know I heard

813
00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 3: exactly what she said, but I say it was her.

814
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 3: And she said, uh huh, just like your I was like,

815
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 3: let me go sit down, Let me just go sit

816
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,240
Speaker 3: down and do something. Let me go read my books.

817
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: You think your kids be up there scream cursing me out,

818
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: silent cursing me.

819
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: Out, or they call Papa school, or they call whoever

820
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: they little outlets are to talk to talk.

821
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: Jackson will do that though.

822
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 3: Jackson will will And this is why I'll say I

823
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: say I respect who he's becoming is because he's not

824
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: afraid to call my father when we have our back

825
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 3: and forth and say, popa school, can I talk to

826
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 3: you that my father has a very soft approach with him, which.

827
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: I never got. You know, he was not soft for me,

828
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: you know. But as you heal and.

829
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: You become a better person, you you do better. And

830
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: he explains to Jackson my perspective. And a lot of

831
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: times Jackson will come back to me afterwards. And and

832
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: the last time we had like a really big he

833
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: came back to me. He said, Dad, just can you

834
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 3: just tell me what it is you want? And I'm like,

835
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 3: why are you asking me what I want? He said,

836
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 3: because I just really I want to make you happy.

837
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 3: Which is crazy because there's a young man named Elias King.

838
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: Elias is six' nine guard From. Georgia he was a

839
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 3: top forty athlete growing up in middle school in high,

840
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 3: school so he's had an immense amount of pressure on

841
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 3: him since in middle. School he had his first offer

842
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 3: in middle, school so just imagine, that, RIGHT espn top one.

843
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,360
Speaker 3: Fifteen all of, that he told me a story about

844
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 3: how he was at he was At Mississippi state. Playing

845
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 3: there was a bunch of scouts in the. STANDS sec

846
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: was a BIG sec, game and first thing he did

847
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 3: was get nervous because he's, LIKE i gotta make sure

848
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 3: that my, dad you. Know he dropped the pass and he's,

849
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 3: like guess the next one he went to, catch the

850
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: ball stepped out of. Bounds so he said he looked

851
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: up in the stands and his father was just shaking his.

852
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 3: Head no like, this like just shaking his. Head and he,

853
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 3: said he just, said the worst game. Ever and he,

854
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 3: said right after the, game his father came, up SO

855
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 3: i was, like, MAN i can't believe you did. That he.

856
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: Said he stopped his. Father he, Said, dad trust, ME

857
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 3: i want nothing more than to please. You and he

858
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 3: said his father looked at him and was Like and he,

859
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: said from that point his father stopped over coaching him

860
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: and shaking his head.

861
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 1: In the, stands and he went on to Becoming.

862
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 3: Oldmerican he, said that was the best YEAR i ever

863
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: had playing, Basketball but it was just a reminder to

864
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: me what they see from their, perspective BECAUSE i had

865
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 3: told a. LIARS i, said, well what if your dad

866
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 3: was shaking his head because he doesn't like to plaze

867
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 3: your coaches called and he, said it don't matter why

868
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 3: he's shaking his. Head ALL i see is him shaking his.

869
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 3: Head and ALL i want is to please my. Dad

870
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: and he told me this Because i've been training with a.

871
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 3: Liars he, SAYS i can tell you, This Deval jackson

872
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 3: wants nothing more than to please.

873
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:54,879
Speaker 1: You that's all he. Wants and from Then i've been starting.

874
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 3: To take steps back as far as the overcoaching and

875
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 3: try to understand his.

876
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: Feelings you, know things come.

877
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 3: Across BECAUSE i did ask, HIM i was, like, yo

878
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 3: can you tell.

879
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 1: Me, sometimes like why you so? Quiet why you seem so?

880
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: Angry and he was like life Is life is not,

881
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 3: easy it's, scary AND i was, like what you. Mean

882
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: he was, like, well no one tells you how you

883
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: got to do. Things they just say, that you, know

884
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 3: make sure you do, this watch out for this, person

885
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: watch out for. That and it's just a bunch of

886
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 3: things that they tell you to watch out for and

887
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: to be prepared, for but no one really explains the.

888
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:32,160
Speaker 3: Why and it made me, realize, like, dang imagine you're

889
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 3: carrying all of that as a, teenager but then you

890
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 3: also got, puberty and you also got, hormones and your body's,

891
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 3: changing and these things are happening to you that you don't.

892
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: Understand it's a lot to deal.

893
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 3: With So i'm learning as a dad to kind of

894
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 3: give him more, grace but at the same, Time i'm

895
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 3: trying to teach and navigate him through, that because you

896
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 3: get grace and you get, latitude but you don't get too,

897
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 3: much you know What i'm.

898
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 2: SAYING i think it's particularly difficult when and as a,

899
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 2: parent you're so tuned into how you were as a,

900
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: child how you were as a, Teenager like there's certain

901
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: things that are still so fresh in your, mind and

902
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 2: you just want to make sure that your child is

903
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 2: prepared as much as, Possible like you never want them

904
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 2: to leave this house feeling, like, Damn i'm not prepared for.

905
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:24,959
Speaker 2: This SO i, understand AND i think we both share

906
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 2: the same sentiment where it's, like you don't you almost

907
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: wanted to make sure you're over preparing them for every

908
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 2: scenario they may potentially bump into so that way they

909
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 2: know how to handle. It BUT i can also see how,

910
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 2: simultaneously it could be a bit overwhelming for a child to, say,

911
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: WELL i haven't even encountered these things in life, yet

912
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 2: but just the possibility THAT i may in itself is.

913
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 2: Overwhelming AND i think that's where you AND i are

914
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 2: With jackson sometimes and why he may potentially feel, like

915
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 2: oh my, god this is a lot to.

916
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: Process he we were talking one, time just just about.

917
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 3: Everything he was talking, about like how life seems like,

918
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 3: scary like it's not. FUN i was, like what you.

919
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 3: Mean he was just, Like, Okay, church you, know you

920
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: don't do, right you, die go to. Hell you, know

921
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: being a black, man you walk around the street and

922
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 3: if cops you so you might.

923
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: Die it's like it's like everything you see and hear

924
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: about is all. Negative it's all.

925
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 3: Negative AND i was, like, man we as a group of,

926
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 3: people like are, humans have to do a better job

927
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: of not scaring our kids with all the anxiety that

928
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: we have from the life that we, lived because when

929
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 3: we do, that in, turn it creates like a self

930
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: fulfilling prophecy if something negative, happen because all you preach

931
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: about is don't do, this don't do. This and it's

932
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 3: the same thing in sports WHEN i learned how to.

933
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 3: Ski they used to tell, me don't SAY i don't

934
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 3: want to hit the, tree Say i'm gonna stay on the.

935
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: Path because if you Say i'm gonna stay on the,

936
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 3: path you're focusing on the. Path if you SAY i

937
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: don't want to hit the, tree you're focusing on the.

938
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 3: Tree you're gonna run into the. TREE i realized that with,

939
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 3: parenting the more THINGS i Tell jackson to be concerned

940
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 3: about and worried, about the more he only focuses on, that,

941
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 3: Right and that's what was, creating like the animosity between,

942
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 3: us and not even, animosity but it's like now my

943
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,400
Speaker 3: dad's talking, again, right and what negative is going to

944
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 3: come out of my dad's mouth right?

945
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: Again or just being?

946
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: Tensioned yeah?

947
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: Right you, know?

948
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: Right are you thinking That i'm just saying this with?

949
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 2: Love but he receiving it as something that you don't

950
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: know in that moment he may receive, it and then

951
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 2: he may go up to his room or be in

952
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: the shower and be, like oh my, Goodness i'm just

953
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 2: thinking About, yes dad, said you, know most it over

954
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: in his. Head, yeah and it's just, like, damn that

955
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 2: wasn't what you intended to, happen but that's how he's

956
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 2: receiving it in his fourteen year old. Mind.

957
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah it's just been crazy for me Because i'm an.

958
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: OVERTHINKER i overthink, everything AND i remember how stressful things

959
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 3: were to me growing up in middle, school only to

960
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 3: graduate and, realize like middle school is a.

961
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: Game it's not even real life. Yet you, know middle.

962
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 3: School is like practice for high, school which is practice for,

963
00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 3: college which is practice for real.

964
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: Life. Right BUT i.

965
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 3: Took it so serious because the same way my mom

966
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 3: was the first black women In brooklyn to go To

967
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: Marine park and go To Madison High. School she was

968
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: amongst that, class so she always taught me about you,

969
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 3: know racial, discrimination but also taught me about. Education but

970
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: she always came from like that mother's standpoint where it

971
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 3: was very like, heavy like make sure you do this

972
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: or and then something bad and you, know advocate or

973
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 3: something bad will.

974
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: Happen and that made me. Crazy it sounds.

975
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: Like parenting with a bit of fair, parenting parenting out of.

976
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: Fair do any of you remember like that moment when

977
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 2: you were just like that moment that she went from

978
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 2: like adoring your, parents hanging on their every, word wanted

979
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 2: to be with them all the time to then you

980
00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 2: kind of start to just want your own time you're

981
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 2: in your room, more you kind of start to have

982
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 2: a bit of a, ugh here they go. Again do

983
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: you remember like that point in time when it. HAPPENED

984
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 2: i don't remember.

985
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: MINE i don't remember when that.

986
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 8: HAPPENED i know it's probably, gradual BUT i do want

987
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 8: to go back to the develops point real, Quick.

988
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: OKAY i want to applaud you for listening To.

989
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 8: Jackson for, him he's really mature for his, age, right

990
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 8: the fact that he can come to you and, say your,

991
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 8: DAD i just want to please, you but also for

992
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 8: you for opening up and just being, Like i'm gonna

993
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 8: take a step back from doing this Because i'm having

994
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 8: an impact on my. Son BECAUSE i think about my,

995
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 8: DAUGHTER i don't want her to tell me dad the

996
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 8: on any THING i want to do is please, you

997
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 8: you know WHAT i, mean because it makes me feel

998
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,720
Speaker 8: Like i'm doing something.

999
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 1: Wrong that's, right. Bro AND i think about my own.

1000
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 8: FATHER i still have those thoughts LIKE i just want

1001
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 8: him to be happy with my, decisions with the things

1002
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,839
Speaker 8: THAT i. Do AND i remember myself at, fifteen sixteen years,

1003
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 8: OLD i felt LIKE i couldn't get anything. Right but

1004
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 8: having that conversation with, HIM i probably wasn't mature enough

1005
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 8: to have the conversation with. Him and it's probably because

1006
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 8: he's not as open as a as A caribbean. Man

1007
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 8: he's just, like you, know do AS i say or.

1008
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 8: Whatever AND i used TO i used to do a

1009
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 8: lot of LIKE i don't, say odd. JOBS i used

1010
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 8: to do errand like run errand's with, him like pick

1011
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 8: up equipment and do all these things with him on.

1012
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: Weekends AND i could just never do anything. Right that's

1013
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: WHY i.

1014
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 8: Felt and or he would just be like a like

1015
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 8: crazy control freak where he would just want to do

1016
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 8: it himself and not let me get it, go you

1017
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 8: know WHAT i, Mean so that When i'm doing.

1018
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: STUFF i remember one TIME i was.

1019
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 8: Sweeping we was at church and we was like it

1020
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 8: was at the, event and you, know everybody cleans, up like,

1021
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 8: community everybody cleans. Up And i'm sweeping with a pushbroom

1022
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,879
Speaker 8: for the very first, time And i'm just like taking

1023
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 8: the broom And i'm pulling the dirt.

1024
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: Tunes that's. What he snaps it away from. Me and

1025
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: he snatched away from.

1026
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 8: Me he's like it's a push, broom you push it,

1027
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 8: right you don't like for?

1028
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: Me i'm, LIKE i don't know, that you know WHAT i?

1029
00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 8: Mean so everything you do like you just want to

1030
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 8: please your pops because he feels like something like everything

1031
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 8: you're doing is, wrong or at least you feel like

1032
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 8: everything he is. Wrong So i'm just applauding you for

1033
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 8: or being open minded enough to understand that how you

1034
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 8: can affect your son in a negative way by you,

1035
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 8: know maybe being. Overbearing and that's, it, MAN i don't

1036
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 8: remember WHEN i transfer into being want to be on my,

1037
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 8: own like it just. Happened my parents are Always my

1038
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 8: parents are old, though like old. School you don't want

1039
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 8: to hang around them no.

1040
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: More i'm about to, Say i'm about to, SAY i

1041
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 3: don't think our parents hung out with us the way

1042
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 3: we hang out with.

1043
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: Our, kids right, right, right you know What i'm, Saying,

1044
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: LIKE i DON'T.

1045
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: I just say. THAT i GUESS i asked that because With,

1046
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: Jackson and it could also just be like the repetition

1047
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 2: of things as a. Mom it's like make your, bed

1048
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: brush your, teeth wash your, face like every morning. Routine

1049
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: how is? It let's start, here how is it? Right

1050
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,640
Speaker 2: it's not a very. Worstiting how is it that every

1051
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 2: day we wake up to go to school and it's

1052
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: the same. Routine and this is like all of, them,

1053
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: Right you wake, up you brush your, teeth you wash your,

1054
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: face you make your, bed you come down and have,

1055
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: breakfast you clean up the, kitchen you head, upstairs, motion mouth, wash,

1056
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 2: chapstick like all the. Things AND i find myself every

1057
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 2: morning with the same, routine having to say the same

1058
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 2: things over and over. Again so With jackson, particularly, NOW

1059
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: i could see like IF i say something to, him

1060
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 2: he'll be, like, okay, mom or like its tone changes

1061
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: or he gets Like And i'm, Like, jackson do you

1062
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 2: the body? Language And i'm, like do you understand that

1063
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,720
Speaker 2: my ass is tired of saying the same shit Every

1064
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 2: imagine if you tiedy hearing me say certain, Things imagine

1065
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 2: how TIRED i am of having to say these? Things,

1066
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,319
Speaker 2: Right so the other Morning i've been telling, Him, yo

1067
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 2: if you know you have practice before school and you

1068
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 2: have to change and put your uniform, on you gotta

1069
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 2: make sure you pack your bag the night, before don't

1070
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 2: wait till the morning. Of then you want to snooze

1071
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: on the couch till the very last. Minute your brothers

1072
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: are in the car wait for you when you scrambling

1073
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 2: to find shorts and shoes and contacts and all the.

1074
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: Things so after saying that to him several, times there's

1075
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 2: some mornings WHERE i see him. Scrambling so your mom was.

1076
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: Here this was like a couple of mornings, Ago jackson

1077
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 2: scrambling trying to find, this trying to find. That, jackson

1078
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 2: you know you could avoid this if you would have

1079
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: just packed your bag last, night right because the other

1080
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: day your father had to go take you, shoes your

1081
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 2: school shoes to school because you forgot to pack. Them

1082
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 2: but had you packed, them your father wouldn't have to

1083
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: wake up to take you the. Shoes and then he

1084
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:41,080
Speaker 2: just starts moving. Slower AND i think that that was

1085
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 2: his way of like not trying to say something to,

1086
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 2: me to be. Disrespectful but it was like he started

1087
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 2: to move. Slower so that's WHEN i had to because

1088
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 2: he's told in. Me, Now that's WHEN i had to

1089
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 2: look at, him AND i kind of gave him a

1090
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 2: little bit of a you know That i'm gonna need

1091
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 2: you to move with sensive urgency or it's gonna be a.

1092
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 2: Problem that's WHEN i hit him With brooklyn k and

1093
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: then he was like, yes, ma'am and that's when he started.

1094
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: Moving but it was the it was the non verbal body,

1095
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 2: language you, know as if he was, like, oh here's

1096
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:23,000
Speaker 2: she go. Again she wants me to move. Fast i'm

1097
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: gonna move. Slow and your mother looked at me and

1098
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: she was, like oh, well she didn't even get. Involved

1099
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 2: she was, like, oh, well.

1100
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 1: When you have a, teenager this is how all teenagers

1101
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: look when they're. Happy body.

1102
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 2: Language that's.

1103
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 1: What happened To jackman y'all one. Thirty, yeah it was, like,

1104
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 1: Yo i'm like. That his whole. Team every song come

1105
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: out LIKE i WISH i had triples here.

1106
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: Because they all got.

1107
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 1: That because they all got, that you know What i'm.

1108
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 1: Saying they all got that hair that be hanging in the.

1109
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,400
Speaker 1: Front the eyes just WHAT i see this ALL i

1110
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 1: see in the.

1111
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:12,959
Speaker 3: Gym it's just a little curl coming.

1112
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 1: OUT i WISH i had you. Here every teenager in that,

1113
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: school the white kids, too they got the.

1114
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 11: Puff they got the puff That it's like they want

1115
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 11: the yes, no not the, pods because, pods pods kind

1116
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 11: of got a, curl but some of them don't have the.

1117
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,320
Speaker 1: Curl they got The.

1118
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 3: Jacksie, says they do this, right the white boys because

1119
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:42,560
Speaker 3: they want the puff to go like. This he's, like

1120
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: you gotta feel they got a, fall so you gotta.

1121
00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: Go And i'm, like so then you do that and

1122
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 3: say you throw the hoodie over. It SO i, said

1123
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 3: you do all of that with your hair and then

1124
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 3: throw a hoodie over. It nobody to see your face like,

1125
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,919
Speaker 3: Nothing and they're just like, this like, yeah that's the body.

1126
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: Language and SO i can understand how in the morning

1127
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 3: if that's the body language you're getting before school because you,

1128
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 3: energy your high, Energy let's go guys and be ready

1129
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 3: to be.

1130
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 2: Positive i'm, like let's start the day on a good.

1131
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: Note like nobody wants to like send the kids to,

1132
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: school you, know yelling at them and or. Whatever and

1133
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 2: Then jackson's just lagging and he's just Like i'm doing.

1134
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: PRACTICE i, said that's Why i'll be telling you as

1135
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,399
Speaker 2: to go to sleep at. Night you just want to stay.

1136
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,919
Speaker 2: Up it's basketball season, now so forget. It he's gonna

1137
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 2: want to watch tailor games all. That SO i, said

1138
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 2: the extra twenty minutes that you want to get in the,

1139
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 2: morning take them twenty minutes and go to.

1140
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 6: Sleep.

1141
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: Early so last night when he was sitting with us

1142
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 2: here me and about trying to spend time, Together i'm,

1143
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: like why are you still?

1144
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: Here?

1145
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 2: WHY i, said maybe you should go to sleep so

1146
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 2: you're not in the morning fighting with me about being.

1147
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: Up and he was like, facts right, right be like,

1148
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: yeah you're, right that's exactly what he.

1149
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 7: Said he was, Like i'm gonna go get in the

1150
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 7: shower and go to. BED i, say as you should

1151
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 7: remember him this. Morning they're supposed to be out of

1152
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 7: here eight twenty, eight twenty. Five his brothers is twenty

1153
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 7: eight twenty. Eight his brother is all in the, truck

1154
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 7: his grandparents is waiting for. Him he's walking through my

1155
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 7: head this and. THAT i, Said, yo you got to

1156
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 7: be a lot more considerate with people's.

1157
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 3: Time your brother's. Waiting they gotta be in. Time just

1158
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,720
Speaker 3: LIKE k, said he didn't speed. Up he slow walks

1159
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 3: over to his. PHONE i feel, bad don't feel?

1160
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: Bad move? Fast what are you? Doing like, like And

1161
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: i'm just, Like i'm, like, hey, man get your, son,

1162
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: bro that's in the.

1163
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 2: MORNING i, DON'T i.

1164
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,319
Speaker 1: Don't i'm.

1165
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 2: Yo he's, like, hey you got mourning routine You i'm, LIKE.

1166
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 3: I can't do this bro cause it's like IF i

1167
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: had to do that every morning time and then and

1168
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 3: but part of it is.

1169
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: Hormones.

1170
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 6: Though, YEAH i definitely had to teach myself how to

1171
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 6: be a morning person again in my twenties because my

1172
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 6: dad ruined every morning for like four. Years SO i at,

1173
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 6: twelve WHEN i started going through, PUBERTY i moved out

1174
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 6: of my mom's.

1175
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: House she fussed, Too, DAMN i was out of.

1176
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 6: Here SO i moved in with my, dad and every

1177
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 6: morning to wake me, up my dad would come in

1178
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 6: my room and clap as loud as he, could and

1179
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:15,840
Speaker 6: then get really close to my face and just clap

1180
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 6: in my. Ear sometimes he would just come in quietly

1181
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 6: and snatch the covers off shor.

1182
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:25,879
Speaker 1: So Then i'm.

1183
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 6: Pissed i'm pissed. Already then he would go back to.

1184
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 6: Sleep AFTER i was, up he would go back to.

1185
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 6: Sleep my dad sleeps like a, rock SO i would

1186
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 6: not be able to wake him. Up it would take

1187
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 6: me forever to wake. Up by the TIME i get him.

1188
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: Up Now i'm. Late we're gonna be.

1189
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 2: Late.

1190
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 6: Now he's doing one hundred miles an hour on the,

1191
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,640
Speaker 6: freeway weaving in and out of, traffic trying to get

1192
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:48,520
Speaker 6: me in. School but on top of, that he has

1193
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,560
Speaker 6: to eat, something and he'll just grab. Whatever my dad

1194
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 6: doesn't really. Cook he'll get on a grill but he don't,

1195
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 6: cook and he'll just grab, whatever, grapes, oreos whatever there,

1196
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 6: is and it doesn't matter what it. Is he's smacking

1197
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 6: so fucking loud every, morning and he. Is he's having

1198
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 6: a great. Morning he went back to, sleep he's, refreshed

1199
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 6: he's feeling. Good he's got his fucking grapes that he's

1200
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 6: chewing like his beef. Jerky he's so happy with. Itself

1201
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 6: i'm about to be. LATE i Know i'm going to

1202
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 6: get a, detention and he doesn't give a.

1203
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Fuck he LIKE.

1204
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 6: I used to be in this in the passenger, Seat

1205
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:35,879
Speaker 6: LIKE i should just grab the wheel and brust into

1206
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 6: a wall because this is the most miserable ship in the.

1207
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 6: World and my sophomore, YEAR i think it WAS i

1208
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 6: got a detention every single day from my first bell

1209
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 6: teacher BECAUSE i was late every day AND i would be,

1210
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 6: like it's not my, faults my dad's, fault and my

1211
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 6: teacher was, like it is your.

1212
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: Fault does your dad have to be in? School? No

1213
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: and they forced me TO i had to start taking

1214
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: the bus to. SCHOOL i was so. Mad this triple.

1215
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 4: Origins that's an insane way to wake.

1216
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: Up that is, THOUGH i would lose my.

1217
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 8: Mind.

1218
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: Bro that Is.

1219
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 6: And my, dad you, know he's just he's like a

1220
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 6: really chill, person but he does ship to irritate. People

1221
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 6: that's like his favorite thing to, do and he doesn't

1222
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 6: react to. IT i would be so mad in the

1223
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 6: mornings in his, house right, right, yeah get, on and

1224
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 6: he just would be calm about.

1225
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: It.

1226
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 6: Yeah it was the most irritating. Ship AND i think

1227
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,440
Speaker 6: that that's probably the peak of like my hormonal. Attitude

1228
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 6: and THEN i think he probably my hormones up BECAUSE

1229
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 6: i still have an attitude. Problem you know What i'm, saying, Mamatic, yes,

1230
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 6: irritation it just takes me right. BACK i can't hear

1231
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 6: clapping every time somebody irritates.

1232
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: ME i hear. Clapping that's. Crazy how does your mother

1233
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: used to wake? Up my mother sang a.

1234
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 2: Song my mom she used to just, like come, in

1235
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:14,919
Speaker 2: turn the light. On that's my, Thing, like don't turn

1236
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 2: the light on right. Away it was the turning of

1237
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 2: the light. On so because of that trauma with the,

1238
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 2: Boys i'll turn on like the light farthest away from,

1239
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: them like by the, bathroom and Then i'll, slowly like you,

1240
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 2: know and not give them. Kisses AND i tried to

1241
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 2: make it a gradual wake, up Like i'm not gonna

1242
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 2: wake you up at seven thirty if you have to

1243
00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 2: be up at seven. THIRTY i started like seven, fifteen seven,

1244
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 2: twenty like hey, guys and kind of coax them out of.

1245
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: Bed, YEAH i.

1246
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: DO i just really feel like that sets the tone

1247
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: for their, day LIKE i don't do it does in

1248
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:45,959
Speaker 2: the morning and set them to school with nothing. HEAVY

1249
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: i know how it feels WHEN i have to be

1250
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 2: woken up AND i don't want to go. Somewhere SO

1251
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: i think part of it now with our, generation or

1252
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,359
Speaker 2: at least With. DEVALIN i don't want to say our,

1253
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: generation But deval AND i are just aware of the

1254
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 2: things that we did not like when we were, children

1255
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 2: or the things that have caused us some sort of,

1256
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 2: trauma whether it's like something lightweight or, not and we just,

1257
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 2: decided you know, what we're gonna try this approach with

1258
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: the kids. Instead and you, know BECAUSE.

1259
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 1: I know what it was like in the.

1260
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: Morning my mother was like fussing and trying to us

1261
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: how the, door and then she's just, like this is,

1262
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:15,399
Speaker 2: why and that's. Why and then her and my father

1263
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 2: had their own thing going, on and then it, said

1264
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 2: you take that weight to school and the whole day

1265
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: is like thrown. Off so that's WHY i purposely wake

1266
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 2: up with them in the morning and try to do.

1267
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 2: That But jackson be pushing my buttons in the morning,

1268
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: sometimes you, know as he's getting, older you, Know dakota's

1269
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 2: biggest thing Is i'm So.

1270
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm so.

1271
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 2: Tired he'd be on the cast up Between, Jackson. Coda

1272
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 2: coda And jackson are my hardest in the. Morning the, Morning, Yeah,

1273
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: Cayron cass they, Good they're.

1274
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,120
Speaker 1: GOOD i used to feel like it was. Well they do.

1275
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: Say science says that some people are genetically just not mourning.

1276
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,160
Speaker 4: People science just talking about. Message.

1277
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Facts i'm not a morning. Person i'm not. Either

1278
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: i'm not with.

1279
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 6: IT i, MEAN i prefer not to be up, early

1280
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 6: you know What i'm. Saying but IF i have to be,

1281
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 6: Now i'm a lot. BETTER i used to have an

1282
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 6: attitude with anybody in the. Morning don't fucking say nothing

1283
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:19,440
Speaker 6: to me and don't wake me. Up, absolutely if you

1284
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 6: wake me.

1285
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 3: Up anybody who wakes you up is just you Always you're.

1286
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 3: Done you, See i'm not that bad in the. MORNING

1287
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 3: i just don't. Like IF i had a, Choice i'll

1288
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 3: get up. Later but IF i got to get, UP

1289
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 3: i guess it's from football in all them years of

1290
00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 3: having me, UP i just wake.

1291
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: UP i know the meme that has the fox that

1292
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 2: looked for all dishovel and he's just Sitting, yep that's,

1293
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,520
Speaker 2: Okay yes me here be looking like.

1294
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,800
Speaker 1: That i'm just send you a text triple early in the.

1295
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: Morning with.

1296
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 12: It it's just a bit pack of. Oreos five. Oreos you,

1297
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 12: said some claps in the. Morning just get a voice

1298
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 12: on this.

1299
00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 6: Clap so what changes have you noticed In jackson now

1300
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 6: that he's like going through this hormonal.

1301
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 3: Change first thing is fatigued AND i noticed this and

1302
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 3: the i acs as, pediatrician she was just she, said

1303
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 3: she was, like, listen he's at that age he's going

1304
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,800
Speaker 3: to be sleeping all the. Time and when he's sleeping

1305
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 3: all the, time don't do what most parents, do which

1306
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 3: you said all you do is sleep all. Day get

1307
00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: up and do. Something because his body's growing and if

1308
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 3: he's an, athlete he needs to. Sleep that's the first.

1309
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 3: THING i also noticed that because he's, tired it makes him.

1310
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: Irritable and we always take it as, like what's so

1311
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,360
Speaker 3: important in your life that you're IRRITABLE i work as

1312
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 3: parents and we get defensive about.

1313
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: That but talking to his pediatrician and listening to what she's,

1314
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: saying it's, like.

1315
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 3: You know, WHAT i have to be more aware of

1316
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 3: what he's going through, physiologically SO i don't jump on

1317
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 3: every you, know every little thing because that could be

1318
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 3: annoying as a kid your parents up on. Anything but

1319
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 3: the biggest thing she said was he's going to be,

1320
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: tired and when he's sleeping in the middle of the,

1321
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 3: DAY i don't just wake him, up like wake up

1322
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 3: and do something if he, sleep and let him. Sleep

1323
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 3: so and ever since we've been doing, that his attitude

1324
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: has been way.

1325
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,080
Speaker 2: Better, yeah we didn't actually encourage him to, sleep because

1326
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: that's one thing With jackson WHY i give him. Latitude

1327
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: like this, episode of, course is just fun to talk,

1328
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,800
Speaker 2: about you, know it's jokes most of, it But jackson

1329
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 2: really is like a really good. Kid good, kid like

1330
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 2: his average is like in ninety, Six like he's on

1331
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: top of his. Things SO i don't really harp on

1332
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: on things too much with. Him the sleep thing is

1333
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: something that we do, encourage, though because of. That one

1334
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,360
Speaker 2: thing that kind of broke my heart a little. Bit this,

1335
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: year which was like the, first was, well, a he

1336
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: didn't want to dress up For. Halloween you, KNOW i,

1337
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,440
Speaker 2: mean we're not Big halloween, folks but you, know it's

1338
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 2: fun to take the kids around the. Neighborhood and this

1339
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 2: is the first year he didn't do it with his brothers.

1340
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 2: Either like, before he used to try to split time

1341
01:00:48,960 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 2: and be, like, oh if, Anything i'll like go with

1342
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 2: my friends for a little bit and THEN i come

1343
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 2: back with the. Brothers but he was like with his

1344
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 2: friends for the whole, evening AND i was, like And

1345
01:00:57,800 --> 01:00:59,440
Speaker 2: i'm just, like so no. Costume he's, like, well my

1346
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 2: friends doing, this like they had their own old thing

1347
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: that they, did And i'm, like. Okay so that was

1348
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: kind of sad Because i'm just like. THIS i know

1349
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 2: slowly he's going to start wanting to like spend more

1350
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 2: time with his friends and outside the, house And i'm

1351
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 2: just not prepared for. That it's a couple months before

1352
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: he gets his. PERMIT i can't believe we're Here, yeah.

1353
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: He comes to me to.

1354
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 3: Box he wants to, box like put the head gear,

1355
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 3: on go downstairs and actually get physical. Contact like he's

1356
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 3: no longer just backing up Because dad is so big and.

1357
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 3: OVERPOWERING i throw him a jab and he'll take it,

1358
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 3: in And i'm like, Wow like he's actually becoming a young.

1359
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 1: Man i'm watching him grow, up become more.

1360
01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:45,400
Speaker 2: Muscular i'm also liking like time solo time with. Him

1361
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: LIKE i had to take him late to school one

1362
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 2: morning because he had an eye doctor appointment and he's, Like,

1363
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: mom can we grab Like chack Fil a for? BREAKFAST

1364
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: i was, like you know, what, yeah we'll make it a.

1365
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 2: Morning so we got, up got, dressed he AND i

1366
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 2: went and had breakfast, together and then just having conversation with,

1367
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: Him like it's interesting amidst all of the changes he's going,

1368
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 2: through just to even learn more about him and his

1369
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: personality because he's very, aware you, know he's very mature

1370
01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: for his, age the things that he, realizes the way

1371
01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,320
Speaker 2: he looks at. Life i'm just kind of, like, wow

1372
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: it's interesting to like learn different versions of your children

1373
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 2: as they. Grow so that's been kind of.

1374
01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 3: Interesting it's also interesting to teach them about themselves because

1375
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: he's at the point in his life now where his body's. Changing,

1376
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 3: Right like when before testostermone comes in in, hormones when

1377
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 3: you go play basketball for three, hours nobody can. Tell

1378
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 3: now you go play basketball for ten. Minutes you coming.

1379
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,320
Speaker 1: Home So i'm, like, yo what, hey, hey you need

1380
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 1: to take your ass in the. Shower like what are you?

1381
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 1: Doing you know What i'm, saying, Like, bro do not

1382
01:02:43,320 --> 01:02:46,840
Speaker 1: come talk to me about what? Happened, goes didn't take that?

1383
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: Shower go?

1384
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 3: Straight, also we like he's a he's a young man, now,

1385
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 3: Right so before When i'm teaching him everything cold, tub, this,

1386
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 3: this this That i'm teaching, him and he's just getting

1387
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 3: naked right he Gets i'm, like, man he got.

1388
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,919
Speaker 1: Hair i'm, Like, bro you at a point now where

1389
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: you're not a. Kid you know What i'm, Saying, like

1390
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: don't walk in my bathroom with your balls. Out you

1391
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: know What i'm, Saying, like.

1392
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 3: He don't got a bathtub in his. Room so he

1393
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 3: got his towel over his shoulder walking in my bathroom

1394
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:25,479
Speaker 3: with these hairy.

1395
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: Nuts, Man i'm, like you don't LIKE i got. Pasts

1396
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 1: for a, MINUTE i was, like, hey all, Right it's

1397
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 1: was only one hair in this.

1398
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 3: BATHROOM i was, like you gotta you, know you got

1399
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 3: to put on some spandings when you come down. Here

1400
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 3: your mom is walking. Around it's just him understanding also

1401
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 3: like your your mom also has different body parts and

1402
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 3: she deserves.

1403
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: Privacy you're not a little boy no. More you are

1404
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: a young.

1405
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 3: Man respect your mom's, space respect my. Space and he's walking.

1406
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 3: Around you can't just walk around with no shirt, on you.

1407
01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 3: Know Like i'm trying to teach him things to be

1408
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 3: respectful in the, place in places of other.

1409
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 1: People when when you have a, kid you don't have

1410
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: to worry about. That but now he's a young. Man

1411
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: so it's just watching him go through all of those.

1412
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 3: Things watching him navigate around young. Women i've also noticed

1413
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 3: not to give too much of his stuff. Away but

1414
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: he he has a way of, knowing like there's young ladies,

1415
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 3: watching AND i have to be a certain.

1416
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: Way AND i like.

1417
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: That you know What i'm saying that he's not the

1418
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 3: type of young. Man it's like ladies is, young ladies is.

1419
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 3: Watching let me be like the hard he man, roar

1420
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 3: got to be the most boisterous Loud, no he's just

1421
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 3: like at.

1422
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: The end of his basketball.

1423
01:04:34,280 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: GAMES i notice is the meaning when there are young

1424
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 3: ladies there as opposed to when it's just us young

1425
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 3: ladies hanging.

1426
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 1: Around.

1427
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 2: Baby after a couple of football, games, hey Miss ellis stops.

1428
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: Stop i'm, like little.

1429
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: Girls it was like a little, group like trio of,

1430
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 2: them and they were just, like, oh That's Jasus jackson's Names.

1431
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: Ellis i'm, like, hey, girls what's. Up and it was just,

1432
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 2: like you, Know jackson's getting. Ready he comes, over he,

1433
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 2: says hiding me or. WHATEVER i see them all snickling

1434
01:05:09,520 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 2: on the side over, there snickering and. Whatnot and then

1435
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: we ended up over by. Concessions and Then i'm, like, oh,

1436
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 2: look it's on the concession. Line and then three that

1437
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 2: one was on the concession line. TOO i was, like oh,

1438
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: Man jack is starting to.

1439
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 1: Happen Jack jackson had this was about. Track it's around.

1440
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,960
Speaker 1: Track jack's had no. Clue i'm, like, Yo, jack you see?

1441
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: What he, like huh.

1442
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 3: You. Ain't he's, like see What i'm standing right over.

1443
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: There i'm, like forget. It don't even look back no,

1444
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:36,840
Speaker 3: more because now you're making it. Hot, Bro, like now

1445
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,240
Speaker 3: you're making.

1446
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: Hot that was. Summertime football. Season. Yeah now though he come,

1447
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: Outside i'm, like what is sure?

1448
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 5: That WHEN i was talking to him after the, game

1449
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 5: AND i just looked at him and said something, else

1450
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:50,480
Speaker 5: he snapped out of.

1451
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:53,120
Speaker 4: It he's all, Right see what happened was you made

1452
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:56,840
Speaker 4: the left on the wrong, Basket jackson but you didn't

1453
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 4: that's the game of the. Game they called to play for.

1454
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 4: Inbound he went immediately did a.

1455
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 5: Reverse everybody's like, ooh and then the team got the

1456
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,120
Speaker 5: rebound put it back back. Up everybody, said, wait hold,

1457
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 5: up who's the wrong?

1458
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:10,160
Speaker 1: Who but it Was.

1459
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 4: Jacksonville but he. Didn't he didn't, realize but he.

1460
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:12,800
Speaker 1: Was the move was so.

1461
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 4: Nice everybody's, like it's all, right you tried.

1462
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,080
Speaker 3: Something it was the funny Thing i've seen in my

1463
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 3: life through because then he got fouled and had the

1464
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 3: two free throws on the other end of the, basket

1465
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 3: which is crazy.

1466
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 1: Because oh he had missed.

1467
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 3: Up they were up about eighteen points midway through the

1468
01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 3: first so he didn't play the whole second.

1469
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: Quarter then we come in and they switched, baskets so

1470
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 1: this is getting in the third. Quarter he is.

1471
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:37,320
Speaker 3: Not he didn't play much of the third. Quarter they

1472
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: sitting there so now this is the first time middle

1473
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 3: third quarter he's.

1474
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:40,640
Speaker 1: In him and his.

1475
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 3: Friends you, know they they're the older. Guys they not paying.

1476
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 3: Attention jackson get in the. Game he jump in, there

1477
01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:48,160
Speaker 3: they call the. Enblounds he up and under misses the,

1478
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 3: layup they get the, rep he almost gets the. Rebound

1479
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:53,720
Speaker 3: they fould. Him so now he got a, shoot they

1480
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 3: go take. Him and that's what everybody the stands was,

1481
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:58,920
Speaker 3: Like OH.

1482
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: E J. R smith definitely to move.

1483
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,760
Speaker 4: With he's, like, yeah see what? Happened he was playing cool. Alone,

1484
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 4: YEAH i like it.

1485
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 1: Though SOMETHING i remember is the last TIME i ever

1486
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: kissed my dad on the. LIPS i THINK i was.

1487
01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 6: Thirteen he dropped me off at school on his, motorcycle

1488
01:07:20,360 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 6: gave him a, kiss and THEN i was, LIKE i

1489
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:23,000
Speaker 6: can't do that.

1490
01:07:23,080 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 3: Anymore you know how cool that got to be to

1491
01:07:25,360 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 3: get off your dad's motorcycles at, school, bro and the

1492
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 3: didn't kiss him on the. Lips, now, yeah at, thirteen

1493
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 3: that's kind of, yeah because thirteen is what middle?

1494
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 1: School, yeah middle school and it's late and you've. Grown,

1495
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: yeah that was.

1496
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 6: Late but have y'all had any moments like that With

1497
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,600
Speaker 6: jackson where it's like this baby. Stuff we can't do, anymore.

1498
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: Me kissing him on his. Forehead, remember, Oh matt was,

1499
01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: There he's, yo.

1500
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 3: Chill it was like the minute he got to middle,

1501
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,720
Speaker 3: school elementary, school he was going to. Creek my, bad

1502
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: we'll take that. Out elementary, school he was going to.

1503
01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: School kissed him on the foy he, pops come, out

1504
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 3: run jump in my.

1505
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: Arms middle. SCHOOL i went to hug.

1506
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 7: Him.

1507
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 1: SOON i went to hug him and gave me THE

1508
01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:10,880
Speaker 1: i was just like about the kisses.

1509
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 3: MAN i was, LIKE i was, like what's what's? That

1510
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: he was just like kisses. MAN i was, like you

1511
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 3: do want to kiss you in front of your? Friends he's,

1512
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 3: LIKE i don't want you to kiss.

1513
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 6: ME i was like no.

1514
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: More he was just like, Yeah like he was like

1515
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:28,479
Speaker 1: sad telling. Me but he was just like.

1516
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,599
Speaker 3: Yeah BUT i was like, no, no, no it's your

1517
01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 3: space if you don't want the. Kisses here's the crazy.

1518
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 3: Part football. Season i'm coaching on my football, season having

1519
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 3: a good. Season at the end of the last game

1520
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: of football, season we won like three games in a.

1521
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 1: ROW i go to give him a. Pound he gives

1522
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 1: me a hug and he's, like you can kiss me.

1523
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 1: Now AND i was, like, dang, bro like you you

1524
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: really be knowing your dad need. THIS i kissed him

1525
01:08:53,439 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: in this big old curly here and THEN i was

1526
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 1: just like that, said, MAN i ain't kissing you no.

1527
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 2: More he gives me a little bit more. Latitude we

1528
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:01,600
Speaker 2: still like on the couch And i'm just, like you,

1529
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 2: know we can. Cuddle it's awkward, cuddling cuddling.

1530
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,960
Speaker 1: Long and his limbs are long and.

1531
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 2: Whatnot but we'll be on the couch together AND i

1532
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 2: still get my. SNUGGLES i think he knows like mom needs.

1533
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: It so he's, like all, Right i'll let you, ride.

1534
01:09:16,439 --> 01:09:19,240
Speaker 3: BRO i GET i kiss my other kids, though tyro

1535
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:22,439
Speaker 3: cool with it cast the. Colder the funny thing is

1536
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 3: THE colda is the one that he Don't he don't like.

1537
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 3: IT i pick him, up he mad. LITTLE i pick

1538
01:09:27,320 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 3: him up on get daddy kisses and he be, Like.

1539
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: I'm, like why you don't want to get? Me, OH

1540
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 1: i just thought about. It his, brothers he probably just watches.

1541
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 3: Them he watches. Them but also, like you know how boys.

1542
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 3: Are you know What i'm, saying don't be, soft don't be,

1543
01:09:41,320 --> 01:09:42,439
Speaker 3: soft be a, boy don't be a.

1544
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: Boy and you know What i'm saying With. Carl, yeah

1545
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: he's definitely With. Carol that's WHY i gotta watch.

1546
01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: Him he's the sweet. Baby. Though he'd be like he'll

1547
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 2: randomly come over and like give me a hug and be,

1548
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 2: like you're the best mommy, ever and then ask you

1549
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,439
Speaker 2: for What, NO i, know, right we followed up with,

1550
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 2: that But i'm, like you're the best cod of ever

1551
01:09:59,160 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: and he was.

1552
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: Smiling but that's what's. Up he don't do that to,

1553
01:10:03,479 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 1: me that little mother.

1554
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 2: You have the best. MOMMY i need to catch it

1555
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: on camera one, day like on like record, it because

1556
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 2: then the little voices they go.

1557
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 1: And then, yeah you, know LIKE i.

1558
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 6: Know that's one Thing kazz Watching kaz grow. Up when

1559
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:21,600
Speaker 6: we first started coming down, here his little voice he

1560
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 6: sounded Like Mickey. Mouse, yeah and then now you don't

1561
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 6: sound like.

1562
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 2: That i'd be, like, yeah Like, triple why are you here? Again?

1563
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: Right?

1564
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:30,439
Speaker 2: Trible you live down?

1565
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: Here where you?

1566
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 4: Going where you?

1567
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 2: Going all the questions he has all the.

1568
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 3: Questions the funny thing With kaz is that he doesn't

1569
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 3: say like, really if you tell, someone he, says, actually.

1570
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,639
Speaker 1: Like who just like think about. It he, says, actually

1571
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:48,080
Speaker 1: there's too many.

1572
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:51,519
Speaker 3: Syllables we're From, brooklyn say, really or be like, word

1573
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:54,400
Speaker 3: but you're not gonna give me a word, cayro or

1574
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 3: he'd be like, no, actually.

1575
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: BUT i think we should actually take a break actually Really, Bills, yeah,

1576
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,280
Speaker 2: exactly and then we're gonna come back with our listening

1577
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,519
Speaker 2: letter episode of the, Day so stay. Tuned we'll be right, back.

1578
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 2: Y'all all, right and we're. Back this is a pretty

1579
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 2: long listener, letter so we'll give you this, up. Babe i'll,

1580
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 2: start and THEN i guess they gave us lots of.

1581
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: Context we asked for, context she said he or she,

1582
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,599
Speaker 2: said here you. Go let's see who it. Is all, Right,

1583
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: Hey Kadina. DAVAO i hope you both are doing. WONDERFUL

1584
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: i absolutely Love ellis Ever after and been rocking with

1585
01:11:43,439 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 2: y'all since the apartment. DAYS i also want to shot

1586
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 2: out the rest of the, Team Triple josh And. MATT

1587
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: i love hearing everyone's thoughts and. Perspectives i'm writing BECAUSE

1588
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,080
Speaker 2: i really need your. Advice over the past, YEAR i

1589
01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: started to feel Like i'm losing, myself and even THOUGH

1590
01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 2: i take accountability for my, PART i realized a lot

1591
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 2: of it came from trying too hard to love in

1592
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: a way that wasn't being. Returned i've been married for seven,

1593
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: years and my husband AND i have known each other for.

1594
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:12,280
Speaker 2: Eleven from early in our, relationship he mentioned that he

1595
01:12:12,439 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 2: enjoyed receiving oral, pleasure but made it clear that he

1596
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 2: would never give it at the. TIME i had never

1597
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 2: given or received oral, before BUT i wanted to meet his,

1598
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 2: needs SO i learned how and started doing it for,

1599
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,120
Speaker 2: him even though he SAID i didn't have. To in

1600
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 2: those early, stages there were a lot of restrictions that

1601
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 2: made me feel. Ashamed after giving him, ORAL i wasn't

1602
01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 2: allowed to kiss him UNTIL i brushed my. Teeth if

1603
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,040
Speaker 2: we started sex with me giving him, ORAL i wouldn't

1604
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 2: kiss him for the rest of the intimacy.

1605
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 1: Because, yo, dick what are we? Doing i'm? Sorry my, bad, Right.

1606
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: That's probably why he's, like, no, THANKS i.

1607
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah but not but he not sucking his Own but,

1608
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,760
Speaker 1: no she's going to tell you why what he. Said

1609
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:57,679
Speaker 1: just listen all.

1610
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 2: Right, now stay tuned. HERE i began timing it towards

1611
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: the end SO i could kiss him and feel. Close

1612
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: about three years, in he started allowing me to kiss him,

1613
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 2: afterward but only if he didn't finish in my. Mouth even,

1614
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 2: then if we'd already had intercourse AND i gave him oral,

1615
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 2: AFTER i still couldn't kiss him because he said my

1616
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:23,720
Speaker 2: mouth now had quote unquote my juices in. It those

1617
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 2: rules made me feel scorned and, ashamed BUT i kept

1618
01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 2: pushing those feelings aside to hold on to.

1619
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 1: Him. Continue, baby it's hard to read about giving oral

1620
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: to on these. Weeds i'll finish these. Weeds, YEAH i

1621
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: can't read. THIS i will.

1622
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:53,519
Speaker 2: Continue i'll never forget one. BIRTHDAY i decorated the, room

1623
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,360
Speaker 2: set everything up to make it. Special we were having passionate,

1624
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,840
Speaker 2: sex and in the middle of, it after giving him,

1625
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 2: oral he looked at me and, said can you go

1626
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 2: brush your teeth SO i can kiss. You in that,

1627
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: moment my whole body. SANK i felt so, embarrassed like

1628
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 2: all the energy and love THAT i put into that

1629
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 2: moment just. Disappeared the confusing part is that he can

1630
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 2: also be very attentive in. Bed he makes SURE i finished,

1631
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:19,040
Speaker 2: first and even with, that there's always, restrictions and those

1632
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:23,360
Speaker 2: limits have made intimacy feel conditional instead of. Connected as

1633
01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: our relationship, GREW i eventually asked if he would consider,

1634
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 2: reciprocating and that's when things started to. Shift he became

1635
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: upset and said THAT i was being disrespectful and quote

1636
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 2: unquote styling. Him he told, me that is what does that?

1637
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 10: Mean?

1638
01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 1: JA i was about to say he got to be

1639
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: when this story.

1640
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 2: STARTED i was, like, yeah, yeah styling. Him she's popping.

1641
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 2: Style she's, like you, know making him look. Away he told,

1642
01:14:55,400 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 2: me if that's WHAT i, WANTED i should find someone.

1643
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 2: Else over the, years every time the topic came, up

1644
01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:03,880
Speaker 2: it turned into a big. ARGUMENT i explained That i'm

1645
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 2: not trying to force. HIM i just want our intimacy

1646
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,200
Speaker 2: to feel mutual and. CONNECTED i even began enjoying giving

1647
01:15:10,280 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 2: him oral for my own, pleasure but it's still hurts

1648
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 2: to know that my desires are never considered after. Marriage

1649
01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 2: WHEN i brought it up, again he SAID i was

1650
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 2: wrong to think being his wife would change his. Mind

1651
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: i've also tried to introduce small things like vibrators or

1652
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 2: bullets to spice things, up but he's always been against. It,

1653
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 2: meanwhile one of his fantasies was a, threesome and BECAUSE

1654
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 2: i wanted to make sure that his needs were, MET i,

1655
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 2: agreed even THOUGH i knew he would never have done

1656
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 2: that for me if the roles were. Reversed my love

1657
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:46,040
Speaker 2: language is physical. Touch All i've ever wanted is to feel, seen,

1658
01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 2: desired and touched without having to, ask just that natural.

1659
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,560
Speaker 2: Affection but it only happens WHEN i mention, it and

1660
01:15:53,640 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 2: then it fades UNTIL i bring it. Up it's built

1661
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: a lot of resentment in. Me, recently he said again

1662
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,200
Speaker 2: that he would never perform oral because it would make

1663
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:05,160
Speaker 2: him feel quote less of a, man end, quote and

1664
01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 2: that he would that if he ever did, it he

1665
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: couldn't live with himself or feel like a. PROVIDER i

1666
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 2: told him that, hurt because if that's how he, feels

1667
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 2: does that mean That i'm less of a woman for

1668
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 2: doing it for?

1669
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:18,640
Speaker 1: Him he?

1670
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 2: Answered his answer didn't. Change you want me to. Finish

1671
01:16:22,439 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 2: it's fine, already. Hear his answer didn't. Change WHEN i

1672
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:27,600
Speaker 2: told him MAYBE i should stop giving oral, altogether he,

1673
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: said IF i stop doing, IT i should have, sex

1674
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:34,320
Speaker 2: stop having sex. Entirely it broke me Because i've realized

1675
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 2: how Much i'm putting my own needs aside for SOMEONE

1676
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:39,760
Speaker 2: i love. Deeply outside of, that he's a great dad

1677
01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:41,840
Speaker 2: to our two, sons And i'll always give him. That

1678
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,679
Speaker 2: so here's my. Question AM i being unfair for expecting

1679
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 2: him to reconsider after all these, years to meet me halfway?

1680
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 2: Sexually or SHOULD i just accept that he told me

1681
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 2: from the beginning this was what he would never. Do

1682
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 2: thank you both for always being, real, vulnerable and open

1683
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: about marriage and intimacy or conversations give so many of

1684
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 2: us courage to look deeper into our own relationships and

1685
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,479
Speaker 2: ourselves with. LOVE a wife who feels lost all right.

1686
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 7: For.

1687
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,800
Speaker 3: That at, FIRST i felt like he was being selfish at,

1688
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,800
Speaker 3: first but after listening to what she, SAID i feel

1689
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 3: like he created a boundary for himself and said this

1690
01:17:21,200 --> 01:17:23,400
Speaker 3: is WHAT i do and WHAT i don't. Do you

1691
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,800
Speaker 3: can either agree with me or. Not you don't even

1692
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 3: have to do it to. ME i think is wrong

1693
01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:31,639
Speaker 3: for people to assume That, Okay i'll say it doesn't,

1694
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,280
Speaker 3: matter but then hopefully it'll change over, time and then

1695
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 3: when it don't, change blame the person for not.

1696
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 1: CHANGING i think that she's wrong for. That you know

1697
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: What i'm.

1698
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 2: Saying she had hopes of things would.

1699
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:43,959
Speaker 1: Change you, KNOW i would.

1700
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,559
Speaker 3: Want for her husband to, say you know, what let's meet.

1701
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:49,880
Speaker 3: Halfway but if it's something that he's convicted about and

1702
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,680
Speaker 3: has told you that this is his. Boundary we then

1703
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:55,639
Speaker 3: can't shame him for setting a boundary because we as

1704
01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: people talk about the boundaries that we set for. Ourselves

1705
01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:00,120
Speaker 3: and if that's his, boundary regardless of how silly you

1706
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,560
Speaker 3: think it, is it's his. Right SO i think that

1707
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 3: are you wrong now for expecting him to change after

1708
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 3: two kids in?

1709
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:07,759
Speaker 1: Marriage?

1710
01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 3: Yeah he told you who he. Is, yeah and he

1711
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:11,600
Speaker 3: said this is WHAT i do and don't. Do you

1712
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,720
Speaker 3: could have early on said well you know WHAT i

1713
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:16,640
Speaker 3: really want that so this ain't working between, us but she.

1714
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: Didn't so unfortunately you have to make a decision, now

1715
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 3: are you willing to continue to be unfulfilled in your?

1716
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,800
Speaker 3: Life which sucks for, you you know What i'm. Saying

1717
01:18:25,800 --> 01:18:27,640
Speaker 3: but that was a decision you made early or do you,

1718
01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 3: say you know, What i'm going to move on and

1719
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 3: find someone. Else but only she can make that.

1720
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,639
Speaker 2: Decision, YEAH i mean it seems like his foot is dug,

1721
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:35,560
Speaker 2: in like his heels are dug all the way, in

1722
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 2: and he's not shifting on this to the point where he,

1723
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 2: said you might as well go find somebody else to

1724
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 2: do it kind of, thing like you, Know and that's

1725
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 2: that's kind of. Unfortunate, see at FIRST.

1726
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:46,560
Speaker 1: I was on her sign until she.

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01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 3: Said he also said THAT i didn't have to do

1728
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,719
Speaker 3: it to, Him so it's not like he was, saying

1729
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,360
Speaker 3: you got to do it to, me But i'm not doing.

1730
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: It he was saying, like, nah like you don't got

1731
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 3: to do, it And i'm not doing.

1732
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,800
Speaker 1: It but felt like should have gave that mouth. Up

1733
01:18:58,560 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: yeah you did. That she did.

1734
01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:03,000
Speaker 6: That she's not letting him finish in her mouth and

1735
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:07,160
Speaker 6: he don't want to lick. Her, NO i feel like

1736
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,960
Speaker 6: he said he don't want to kiss her because her juices.

1737
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,160
Speaker 1: Are in her. Mouth, no his, juices his.

1738
01:19:12,360 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 6: Juices, no if they after they have, Intercourse, No, NO

1739
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,720
Speaker 6: i think it was it's his, juices his.

1740
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,800
Speaker 4: Juices after she After, jamaican it's his.

1741
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 1: Juices it's not it's both of.

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01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 4: Them.

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01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah but she didn't say she.

1744
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 2: Didn't she SAID i still couldn't kiss him because he

1745
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,839
Speaker 2: said my mouth now had and then it was unquote

1746
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 2: my juices, Juice so he's talking about his.

1747
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: Hisself, well we don't.

1748
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 3: Know we don't know if the quote means for her

1749
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 3: my juices because she's telling them. Stories because she, said,

1750
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 3: yeah she said they were having. Sex then she went

1751
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 3: down on, him then she went up there to kiss,

1752
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,960
Speaker 3: him and then he said no because it has your.

1753
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: Juices but that's his.

1754
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,160
Speaker 3: Conviction if he don't want to have her juices on his,

1755
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,360
Speaker 3: MOUTH i don't want no or juices in his. Mouth

1756
01:20:02,280 --> 01:20:05,800
Speaker 3: and if that's his, conviction that that's his, line that's his,

1757
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 3: line that's his. Line like you, KNOW i agree with.

1758
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:10,000
Speaker 3: You you shouldn't have gave the mouth up hoping that

1759
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 3: he was going to get his mouth. Up and that's

1760
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 3: that's where she is.

1761
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: Now and that level of intimacy that she feels like

1762
01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 2: always has an abrupt like stop like in the moment

1763
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 2: and then somebody like you go brush your, teeth that

1764
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 2: would like throw everything.

1765
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 3: On but here's my thing, Though right if you're having

1766
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,600
Speaker 3: this interaction with this person and you're, realizing LIKE i

1767
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,560
Speaker 3: don't like, this why do you get married and have

1768
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 3: two kids with this? Person why do you continue to

1769
01:20:32,760 --> 01:20:34,400
Speaker 3: do those? Things and then later on, say, WELL i,

1770
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 3: did like you can't do that to.

1771
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 7: You know WHAT i?

1772
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:42,080
Speaker 1: Mean people always think thing's gonna change and doesn't, happen and.

1773
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,680
Speaker 2: Some people do, change some people do some people do.

1774
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,520
Speaker 2: Change but if they don't use expected.

1775
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,640
Speaker 1: To her, Right and most people that do change change for.

1776
01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 3: Themselves they don't change for, you because if they're changing for,

1777
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 3: you they're going to definitely let you know that they

1778
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 3: change for.

1779
01:20:56,040 --> 01:21:00,160
Speaker 1: You so whoever's change and typically probably change for. Themselves you.

1780
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:01,360
Speaker 1: KNOW i hope that helps, you.

1781
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 3: Mama you know this is a tough situation for you

1782
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 3: to be, in BUT i think there's always conversations to be.

1783
01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: Had but also you can use descermon and make a

1784
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 3: decision for your long term. Happiness no one has to be.

1785
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 3: Stuck don't feel, stuck but understand that there are consequences

1786
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 3: with all those, decisions you, know if you decide.

1787
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:17,040
Speaker 1: Not to stay.

1788
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: Right all, right thank you so much for writing. In

1789
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 2: if you want to be featured as a listener letter

1790
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 2: on one of our, episodes please email. Us we'd love

1791
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,920
Speaker 2: to hear from. You the elisadvice at gmail dot.

1792
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:31,720
Speaker 1: Com that's t H E E l L I S

1793
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: a d V i C e at gmail dot.

1794
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: Com all, right time to give our moments of? Truth

1795
01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 2: would you Like devous to go? First, josh so he

1796
01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 2: doesn't take.

1797
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 1: YOURS i ain't got what we're.

1798
01:21:44,840 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 2: Talking, well this was like a devout therapy.

1799
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,839
Speaker 1: Session, YEAH i was stressed a. BIT i was. STRESSED

1800
01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:50,640
Speaker 1: i ain't gonna lie you.

1801
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 2: And you And jacks as he's, Growing so do you

1802
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 2: have one to?

1803
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:54,439
Speaker 4: Kick?

1804
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 3: YEAH i do understand what your kids are going. Through

1805
01:21:57,920 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 3: don't write off what your kids are going through us

1806
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,760
Speaker 3: always just. Kids we do that as, Parents, right he

1807
01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,800
Speaker 3: don't got no real how important or how hard can school?

1808
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:05,439
Speaker 3: Be you?

1809
01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 1: Know don't we say that his parents are? Time oh

1810
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: you just got chores in? School?

1811
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:10,200
Speaker 3: Now kids have a lot of things that they're dealing,

1812
01:22:10,240 --> 01:22:14,640
Speaker 3: with including, hormones them smells that you, smell that, attitude the,

1813
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 3: fatigue the sleepiness that we call. Laziness don't just throw

1814
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 3: that on your. Kids it's something bad and make them

1815
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 3: feel shameful what they're going.

1816
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: Through you know What i'm.

1817
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:25,400
Speaker 3: SAYING i think it's time for us as parents to

1818
01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:30,240
Speaker 3: understand that from those ages of pre adolescence through puberty

1819
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 3: up unto them early young adult, years they deserve grace

1820
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 3: just as much as, we as grown adults.

1821
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 2: DESERVE i was gonna, say give your children grace BECAUSE

1822
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:43,560
Speaker 2: i think as, parents you know how it felt to

1823
01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:46,639
Speaker 2: be that, age and you understand the little things that used,

1824
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 2: to you, know make you tick and the things that

1825
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,640
Speaker 2: might have pisched you. Off and a part of, IT

1826
01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:52,800
Speaker 2: i think is just understanding who you are as you.

1827
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 2: Grow so give them a little. Grace you know your children.

1828
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 2: Best for, example With, jackson we know that deep down

1829
01:23:00,040 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 2: when the chips, fall he's just an amazing kid all,

1830
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 2: around and we just want to help him navigate as he,

1831
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,000
Speaker 2: grows the same way my husband's helping me. Navigate. Perrymanaphuts

1832
01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 2: you know What i'm, Saying we all navigating everything in

1833
01:23:11,439 --> 01:23:14,800
Speaker 2: this house BECAUSE i just don't want to ever have

1834
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 2: any of, that any of my. Boys having four of,

1835
01:23:17,439 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 2: them just feel, like, DAMN I i don't want to

1836
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,479
Speaker 2: answer because my mom's. Calling she's gonna start chatting. Again

1837
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:24,600
Speaker 2: Or i'm not even gonna go home today because my

1838
01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:26,719
Speaker 2: mother's gonna be you, know she's gonna be yelling about

1839
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 2: this or screaming about. THAT i just want my boys

1840
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 2: to always feel, like you know, WHAT i want to

1841
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 2: call my. MOM i want to come. Home that's that's

1842
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 2: WHAT i ultimately. Want so that's my.

1843
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:39,679
Speaker 4: Mom and truth, Y'all jackson made case in the morning

1844
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:40,640
Speaker 4: for your. Mom tumpky and.

1845
01:23:40,680 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 2: Chest may yes make, case and pack your bag the.

1846
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:55,679
Speaker 1: Night before and pack your. Patient i'm. STEALING i don't

1847
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:59,120
Speaker 1: really have a moment of. Truth and validity is.

1848
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 8: Real don't be an Invalid and it's important for us

1849
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 8: as parents to not impose our wills on our children

1850
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:16,879
Speaker 8: so much that they feel like they need to impress,

1851
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,880
Speaker 8: us all, Right and also always remember that there's somebody

1852
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:22,880
Speaker 8: right next to you that might feel like they're on an.

1853
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 8: Island so be courteous and kin.

1854
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 1: Fact that's a good. One, yeah find gentle ways to

1855
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:35,479
Speaker 1: wake your kids. Up that's a good. One you, know that's.

1856
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:39,240
Speaker 3: True that's a rough morning every morning Because i'm envisioning,

1857
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:41,599
Speaker 3: it LIKE i don't know Why i'm, envisioning like your pop's,

1858
01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 3: mad big and musculars.

1859
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: Coming there like, clap, clap, clap snatch water sleep now.

1860
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 1: Triples i'm, LIKE i gotta get ready to, school, Dad.

1861
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 1: Dad then he just up grabbed some, orioles some, grapes

1862
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 1: and he's, like, yeah every morning before school For. Trible

1863
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:08,560
Speaker 1: oh my, goodness we love You.

1864
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:12,200
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1869
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