1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Right hour two Sean Hannity Show, eight hundred and nine 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: for one Shawn our number. You want to be a 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: part of the program, So Jim Jordan, James Comer, all 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: come out guns blazing. You know, for all this time, 5 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: the FBI has had access to Hunter Biden's laptop. We 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 1: know that he's being paid all of this money using 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:26,080 Speaker 1: his father's influence. For look at the case of Ukraine. 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: He makes millions of dollars, and he goes on GMA, 9 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: do you have any experience in oil? No? Any experiencing gas? No, 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: any experience and energy? No, any experience with Ukraine? No? 11 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,479 Speaker 1: Why did they pay you all this money? I don't know. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: I don't That was his exact answer, you know, And 13 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 1: of course Joe bragging, well, I said, you're not getting 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: a billion dollars unless you fire the prosecutor that we 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: now know was investigating his son. Then of course he 16 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: got the money. Let's see from the Russian oligarch, the 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: former first lady of Moscow, three and a half million 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: dollars for nothing, then one hundred million dollars investment for 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: real estate purposes, and you got China. You got the 20 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: five million dollars no interest forgivable loan. I'd like a 21 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: forgivable loan, meaning Okay, you'll forgive it. I don't have 22 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: to pay it back. That's called I grew up. That 23 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: would be called the bride. But I don't know if 24 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: you if you don't pay it back, that's free money. 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: You'd have to report that, by the way, to the IRS. 26 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: And then of course the one point five billion dollars 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,479 Speaker 1: deal with the Bank of China. Anyway, all of this 28 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: and so much more. Then you got the FBI. Then 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: you got the abuse of power. Then you got the 30 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: whistle blowers that are saying, in no uncertain terms, the 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: FBI has been politicized and the dj has been weaponized. 32 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Here's Jim Jordan, Congressman Ohio, from earlier today. I mean, 33 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: never forget what happened on October nineteenth, twenty twenty, fifteen 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: days before the most important election we have in our country, 35 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: who's going to be the next president Nited States. Fifteen 36 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 1: days before that, mister Brannan, mister Clapper, and forty nine 37 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: other people signed a letter that said the following. It 38 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: is for these reasons that we write to say that 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,519 Speaker 1: the arrival on the US political scene of emails purportedly 40 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: belonging to Vice President Biden's son Hunter has all the 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: classic earmarks of a Russian information operation. The further one 42 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: on to say, we want to emphasize that we did 43 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: not know if the emails provided to the New York 44 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Posts are genuine or not, just that our experience makes 45 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant 46 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: role in this case. Of course, that letter became the 47 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: pretext for suppressing this story again just days before the 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: most important election we have in our country. So I 49 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: would ask, this was JP Morgan's suspicious activity report to 50 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,679 Speaker 1: the Treasury Department? Was that just a classic earmark of 51 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: a Russian information operation? How about one Hunter Biden sent 52 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: the email that mister Cumber pointed to sent the email 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: asking for keys to his new office space, one for himself, 54 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:56,639 Speaker 1: one for President Biden, one for his uncle Jim Biden, 55 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: and one for the emissary for the chairman of the 56 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 1: China These Energy Company CFCC. Was that just Russian disinformation 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: operation in place? What part of mister Kuhmer's presentation prompted 58 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: the FBI to go to Facebook and say, hey, hey, hey, 59 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: you want to be on the lookout for Russian this 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: information here this election season. What part of his presentation 61 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: would prompt that? And I think it's also important it 62 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: never forget how this story has changed. I mean, think 63 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: about this. When it started off, it was no, it's 64 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: not his laptop, it's not his laptop. Then it was, well, 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: it's his laptop, but remember it's Russian disinformation and no 66 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: one did anything wrong. Then it was, well, maybe maybe 67 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: he did something wrong, but President By didn't know about it. 68 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: And now it's well, maybe President By knew about it 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: and was involved, but it didn't influence his decisions. And 70 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: then we learned as it relates to the Russia collusion hoax, 71 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: which is what it was, we learned a lot of 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: things that. Oh, in early October of twenty six, the 73 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: FBI met with Christopher Steele, the guy that put together 74 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: the dirty dossier that we now know is debunked, and said, 75 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: we'll give you a million dollars if you can corroborate it. 76 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: And he never got the million dollars, but it's still 77 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: By the end of the month, became the bulk of 78 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 1: information used in the FISA application a spy on Carter Page, 79 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: which was a backdoor to the Trump campaign, and they 80 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: used it four times thereafter, even after the subsource. Danchenko 81 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: himself told him in January twenty seventeen, prior to the 82 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: two other FISA applications being submitted, that none of it 83 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: was true. So it says at the top of a 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: FISA application verified, all of it not verified. This investigation 85 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: is warranted if you believe America needs equal justice and 86 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: application of our laws. Anyway, Jim Jordan is with us. 87 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: He will be the next chair of the Oversight Committee. 88 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: How are you, sir? I'm fine, Sean, And what Well said? 89 00:04:57,600 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: It is about equal treatment under the law. That is 90 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: a haul mark of our country, the greatest country ever. 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: And if you don't have that, you don't have American 92 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: So that's that is exactly why it's fundamental. That is 93 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: exactly why this investigation, stid aren't important. Could you imagine 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: with what we know on the laptop that the FBI 95 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: had before anybody else, and if it was the last 96 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: name Trump, where in this laptop we know that Hunter 97 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: Biden implicates his father repeatedly, and I think that's where 98 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: that's going. What do you think? Yeah, No, you're you're 99 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: right about the comparison to I mean, can you can 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: you imagine what the left would have done if if 101 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: if any of the Trump family had the same kind 102 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: of stuff on any type of document, any type of 103 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: it can be any type of device. Um, it would 104 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: have been. I mean, we know what that what that's like, 105 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: because we've seen it for the last seven years. They've 106 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: been non stop. After I had a report. Actually well 107 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: but you know, the Dymocrats never really went after Trump's 108 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: family and I just looked and are you kidding me? 109 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: They've done it for seven years. So yeah, that is 110 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: that is again unequal treatment under the law. That is 111 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: what we've seen. And so the only you stop that, 112 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: as you point out, you have to show the truth 113 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: and the facts to the country so they clearly see it. 114 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: And hopefully then you and frankly if we need to 115 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: pass legislation to change the whole structure of that place, 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,840 Speaker 1: particularly the Washington Field Office. Sean never forget one of 117 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 1: these fourteen whistleblowers have come talk to US FBI agents 118 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: who come to us as whistleblowers. His statement was, the 119 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: FBI at the highest levels, at the Washington Field Office level, 120 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: is rotted at its core. Think about that. That's what 121 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: one of these agents are saying. So that is what 122 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: this is truly all about. All right, So let's talk 123 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: about and you're the head of the House Judiciary Committee, 124 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about exactly what it is that your committee 125 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: is going to be investigating. How long do you think 126 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: it'll take. Who are the people that you're looking to 127 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: talk to? Well, there's a whole list, but I'll just 128 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: give you one. And we talked about him on your 129 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: show last night, this guy Timothy t Ball, because he's 130 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: come up in different contexts. Now, we had a whistleblower 131 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: tell us that mister t Ball, who was a special 132 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: assistant Special Agent in charge of the Washington Field Office, 133 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: this place that another whistle blower had told us is 134 00:06:59,040 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: rotted at its core. Mister t Boats the guy who 135 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: was pressuring agents to categorize and catalog cases as domestic 136 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: bid extremism cases when in fact that they weren't. So 137 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: he's pressuring agents to do that. At the same time, 138 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: a different whistle blower had went to Senator Grassley and 139 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: spends mister t Boat again assistant Special Agent in charge 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: of the Washington Field Office, who was involved in suppressing 141 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: the information regarding the Hunter Biden's story. And I think 142 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the terms that mister Grassley used in his report were 143 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: closing off an avenue of information so that people wouldn't 144 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 1: figure out what was going on with the Hunter Biden's story. 145 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: So I want to talk to this mister t Boat 146 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 1: because he's now left the FBI, and we've asked him 147 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: to come in and talk. And even though he said publically, oh, 148 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 1: I welcome a chance to come talking, we've asked him too. 149 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: We've said letters to him in his lawyer's cell No, no no, no, 150 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: he's not going to come in. So I want to 151 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: talk to that guy because I want to know was 152 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: mister t Bolt had he talked to Facebook or did 153 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: he send someone to talk to Facebook and tell him 154 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 1: to suppress this story back in October of twenty twenty, 155 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 1: fifteen days before the election. Did he do that? If not, 156 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: who did? Did they go talk to Twitter as well 157 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: as Facebook? Did they tell what are the same thing? 158 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: Because we know Twitter was throttling back information regarding the 159 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden story in October of twenty twenty, So I 160 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,239 Speaker 1: think those are important questions. And then, frankly, here's another 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: big question. Why did bid the administration change the protesting 162 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: suspicions activity reports. Used to be any committee could get 163 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: access to suspicious activity reports from our Treasury Department. Until 164 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's administration. They said no, we're not going to 165 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: do that. You can't have access to that. Go well, 166 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: go figure. I wonder why they did that. So there 167 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: are these are the kind of questions we have to do. 168 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: And there's a whole list of witnesses we have in 169 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: different of the school board issue, the political nature of 170 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: the Justice Department issue on pressuring agents to catalog cases, 171 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: a whole host of things. We're going to have to 172 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: go through this. So it sounds to me like everything 173 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,880 Speaker 1: that we suspect it is now going to be proven. 174 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: You know, when you look at just this particular case 175 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: involving Hunter Biden and all the money that the Biden 176 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 1: family has made and the laptop, and here you have 177 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: the FBI has had a hold of all of this 178 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: information and they've done nothing with it. It makes absolutely 179 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: zero sense to me, except that we don't have equal 180 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 1: justice under the law. Do you think that? Do you 181 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: believe based on what we now know publicly about Hunter 182 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: implicating his home father, about pictures with Hunter, his foreign 183 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 1: business associates and his father, dates of meetings with Hunter, 184 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: his father and foreign business associates, and then of course 185 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: the amount of money from places like China and Kazakhstan, 186 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: in Ukraine and Russia. Do you think there's enough evidence 187 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: that would prove that, in fact, this is one of 188 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,479 Speaker 1: the biggest, if not the biggest influence peddling scandal potentially 189 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: in our country's history. Well, I mean, it's sure looks 190 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: that way, because you know, we're supposed to believe Hunter 191 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: Biden is an expert on energy, he's an expert on healthcare, 192 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: he's an expert on gaming, he's an all these different 193 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: enterprises he was involved in. So he's an expert in 194 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: all this and making all kinds of money, and he's 195 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: making it from places around the world into any countries 196 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: that are our adversaries. We're supposed to believe all that, 197 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: like he's that much of an expert on everything. And again, 198 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: now it sure looks like his father, the President Biden, 199 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: knew about all this. And again, remember how the story's changed. 200 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: When it first came out, it was like, nah, this 201 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: is not on his laptop, this is crazy, this is 202 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: Russian disinformation. And now yesterday in Political. Here's what political 203 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: said yesterday. They said, no evidence has publicly emerged that 204 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: Joe Biden's decisions were affected by his son's business dealings. 205 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: So now we've went from no, it was this day, 206 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: he did nothing wrong, it's Russian disinformation to that, well 207 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: I knew about it. It was you know, he made 208 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: done something wrong. But it hasn't impacted the president's decision. Well, 209 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: that's a big change in your position, for goodness sake. 210 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: So it does seem like he understood what was going 211 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: on and he had full knowledge, even though he's the 212 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: president said he did it. All right, quick break, we'll 213 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: come back. He's going to be the new head of 214 00:10:53,600 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: the House Judiciary Committee. Jim Jordan uncovering evil and defending 215 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: the truth. All right, we continue. Congressman Jim Jordan, Great 216 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: State of Ohio, the Buckeye State. He will be the 217 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: head of the House Judiciary Committee. He will be looking 218 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 1: into whether the FBI has been politicized and the dj 219 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: is weaponized, and probably get to the bottom of all 220 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: of this, which we need. Jim Jordan remains with us 221 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: when the President meets with all these people and we 222 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: play it against him. His tape saying he'd never had 223 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: a conversation with his son about it. And then all 224 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: the implication by Hunter that his father got the money. 225 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: Isn't this money, aren't these benefits? Isn't that all traceable 226 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: whether his name is mentioned, that he has an office 227 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: inside the family business, and oh, I have to pay 228 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: half my salary to dad and put away money for 229 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: the big guy, and I gotta pay for all Dad's repair. 230 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 1: It certainly seems why Why would a sitting vice president 231 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: ever leverage a billion taxpayer dollars and say you're not 232 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: getting it unless you fire the prosecutor. That sounds like 233 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: a quit and a pro and a quo by Joe 234 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: to me, Yeah it, sir does. I thought Representative A. 235 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: Comber made a really good point when he said, look, 236 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: there are we know of one hundred and fifty suspicious 237 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: act These are banking records that banks have to file 238 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: with Treasure when they see as the name would suggest 239 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: suspicious activity. So we've only seen mister Comer has only 240 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: seen in the staff from the oversective. He's only seen 241 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: two of them. So let's look at the other one 242 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: hundred forty eight. And once I think that mister Comber 243 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: and his staff get to look at the other one 244 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: hundred forty eight will be able to answer some of 245 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: the questions you're raising. Shongs, But let me think about 246 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: that one hundred and fifty on Hunter Biden, Jim Biden. 247 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: Who knows what else is in there about their transaction 248 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: because typically those seen kind of things, as mister Khmer 249 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: pointed out, pointing some kind of under money laundering or whatever. 250 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: We don't know if that's the case, but historically you've 251 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: been able to see those things. Until the Biden administration 252 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: they say no, no, no, no no, we're not gonna allow 253 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: We're not gonna allow you committees to in Congress to 254 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: see that information. So I think that's the key, and 255 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: that's that's what mister Khmer stress during the press conference 256 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: earlier today. Well, if people you know the last Congress 257 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: with Nancy Pelosi, and I'm sure you're very saddened to 258 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: see her go from a leadership position. Is your heartbroken? Ye? 259 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: Well yeah, he sort of sees becomes I think the 260 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 1: face of the left and all the crazy policies that 261 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: that Dave, Well, this is actually now an interesting question 262 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: and you're squirming, so I like it. Um, did have 263 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: you ever had conversations with it. Do you have any 264 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: relationship at all with her? I really don't much. I 265 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: mean that's I've talked. I've actually talked with Danny Hoyer. 266 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: He's he's a nice gentleman, and you know, I disagree 267 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: with his positions and in politics, but I don't really 268 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: talk with the let's speaker plus much. Yeah, all right, 269 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: So this is the difference. This is what the gavel means. 270 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: And when that gavel is transferred by Nancy assume it's 271 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: going to be by Nancy Pelosi over to what looks 272 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: like Kevin McCarthy. Republicans, by the way, and this is 273 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: an important question for me, and in this audience you 274 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: have a small majority. It is imperative to me that 275 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: Republicans number one, keep their commitments to America, follow through 276 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: on these investigations, keep money in check because you have 277 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: the power of the purse. And I just want to know, 278 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: do you have a good feeling Republicans will stand together 279 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: because any four or five congressmen now can come up 280 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: the works in five seconds. Yeah, we gotta stick together 281 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: and we prove what we can in the minority, which 282 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: is a little leaser I get, but we prove we can. 283 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: In the minority, we got we gotta do that. In 284 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 1: the majority, I could not agree more. And one thing 285 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:55,520 Speaker 1: we all need to recognize is whatever differences may exist 286 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: between more modern Republicans and conservative Republicans like you and 287 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: I Shan, those differences pale pale in comparison to the 288 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: differences between Republicans and the crazy left which now control 289 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. Remember the survey done two months ago, 290 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: fifty five percent of Democrats do not believe that America 291 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: is the greatest nation ever. Think about that. Every one 292 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: of your listeners, the million of people who listen to yours, 293 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: to you and your TV show, your radio, they all know, 294 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: they all know, without a shadow of a doubt, this 295 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: is the greatest country in history. But a majority of 296 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: one of the major political parties, the Democrat Party, they 297 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: do not believe that. So we had better stick together. 298 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: If if we're gonna make sure we get a justice 299 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 1: Partment that does treat Americans equally under the law, and 300 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: if we're going to protect the principles that make our 301 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: country the special place that it is. All right, Jim Jordan, 302 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: We're looking forward to January. Can't wait, and happy Thanksgiving up. 303 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,479 Speaker 1: I don't talk to you before then, And we appreciate 304 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: all that you've done and all that you're gonna do, 305 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: and we really look forward to these these investigations. They 306 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: are long overdue, Jim Jordan. Anyway, we appreciate it. Hey, 307 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: there's still a lot more ahead on the best of 308 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show. Stay tuned for more right afternoons 309 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: on this station. All right, twenty five now ntil the 310 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: top of the hour, Thanks for being with us, eight 311 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: hundred nine for one, Shawn our number. We'll get to 312 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: your calls on a minute. I want to go back 313 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: to the story that a NATO allied country got hit 314 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: with two missiles, and I don't know why. There's been 315 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: confusion from the administration, eventually evolving into no, we don't 316 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: think they came from Russia anyway. So when first asked 317 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: about this, Joe Biden refused to answer the question about 318 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: and by the way, two people were killed in Poland. 319 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: Article five NATO says an attack against one is an 320 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: attack against all, which would mean that Poland, if they 321 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: were attacked by Russia and they were Russian missiles, would 322 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 1: warrant then a military response in my opinion. Otherwise, how 323 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: many attacks. Are you going to let a country make 324 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: against the fellow NATO country And on top of all 325 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: the chaos, I mean, Europe is going to suffer badly 326 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: this winter because of the vindictiveness, the evil actions of 327 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: one guy, Vladimir Putin. He has shown a propensity to 328 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: go scorched earth as he is targeting civilians all over Ukraine, 329 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: targeting apartment buildings, targeting human infrastructure, necessary targeting, even hitting 330 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:29,120 Speaker 1: very close to nuclear facilities which could be a nuclear 331 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: fallout disaster. So he's not shown any heart, soul or conscience. 332 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: All he knows is he's got his territorial ambitions and 333 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: albeit he's going for it anyway. Joe was first asked 334 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: about this and he refuses to answer the question. Listen now, Okay. 335 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: So then on Tuesday, Biden comments on this and says 336 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: it's unlikely that the missiles fired into Poland came Fromrussia. 337 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,440 Speaker 1: That's what he said, really to say whether the missile 338 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: was fired from Russia, there is plument information that contests that. 339 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to say that till we completely investigate, 340 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: but it is it's unlikely in the minds of the 341 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: trajectory that it was fired from Russian But well we'll see. Well, 342 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: well it's not we don't need the trajectory. We need 343 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: to know was that a Russian missile or not? I mean, 344 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: it's really that simple now, it could it have been 345 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: an accident. I don't know. Then that we have the 346 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: head the NATO Secretary General out there saying that the 347 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: Polish incident was caused by a Ukrainian missile fired against 348 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: a Russian cruise missile. Here's what he said. Do you 349 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: have no indication that the Russia is preparing offense sive 350 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: military actions against natal Our Preliminary analysis suggests that the 351 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: incident was likely caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile 352 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 1: fired to defend Ukrainian territory against Russian CRUs missile attacks. 353 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: But let me be clear, this is not Ukraine's fault. 354 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: Russia bears ultimate responsibility as it continues its illegal war 355 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: against Ukraine. Now, we did have Colonel North on Hannity 356 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 1: last night. He thinks that it is a viable possibility. 357 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: But there's a part of me that is suspicious only 358 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: in one sense. Within hours, both US intelligence people were 359 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: right at the site of where the strike occurred. We 360 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: had other intelligence agencies from other NATO countries at the 361 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 1: site where this occurred. Now, it would be very easy 362 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: to determine whether or not this was an intentional strike 363 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: or not by Russia, or whether or not as they're 364 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 1: now telling us that they believe that the missile that 365 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: hit Poland was the Ukrainian air defense missile in response 366 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,439 Speaker 1: to a cruise missile that was fired by Russia. Is 367 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: that a possibility, Absolutely, it's a possibility. But based on 368 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 1: Putin's actions all throughout this conflict, this war, this invasion 369 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: of a sovereign country, and his indiscriminate bombing of innocent men, women, 370 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 1: and children, you have to be suspicious and you have 371 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: to ask the right questions. I would really like to 372 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: see the ballistics. The ballistics, to me, will give us 373 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 1: all of the answers that we're looking for. Anyway, Rebecca 374 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: Koffler is with US strategic intelligence expert, author of the 375 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 1: book Putin's Playbook and Anyway. Welcome to the program. Rebecca, 376 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: How are you great? How are you Sean? I'm good. Now, 377 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: what they're saying publicly is plausible, but you've seen the brutality, 378 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,160 Speaker 1: the indiscriminate bombing of innocent men, women, and children, the 379 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 1: targeting of apartment buildings, the targeting of vital infrastructure for 380 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: life inside of Ukraine. It would not surprise me if 381 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin wanted to escalate this conflict. What do you 382 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: think happened or do you know you have any sources 383 00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: telling you what happened. So my unclassified intelligence annalysis that 384 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to reveal to you is that it is 385 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: not Russia that fired that missile. The missile may be 386 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Russian made, but it's more likely it was fired by Ukraine. 387 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Putin is not crazy, She's not suicidal. The one thing 388 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 1: that Putin fears is the full mighty force of US 389 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: and NATAL military, and she doesn't want to escalate at 390 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: that level. Yes, she would escalate targeting Ukraine, but never NATO. 391 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: So it is more likely that it is a mistake. 392 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: It's basically a defense missile by Ukrainians who are trying 393 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: to simply defend their territory. But yet on the other hand, 394 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: he is punishing our NATO allies that foolishly decided to 395 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 1: give up their own energy independence. Interestingly, an argument going 396 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: on in the US right now one that people like 397 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: me that believe in the energy independence are losing and 398 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: they became dependent on Russia's energy. And we're now reading 399 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: reports that people may freeze to death in Western Europe, 400 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: this winner, and reading reports that they may end up 401 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: spending over a third of their annual income just to 402 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: heat their homes, this winner. So Vladimir Putin has no qualms, 403 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 1: compunctions whatsoever in terms of harming Western Europe. Well, absolutely not. 404 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: He has no qualms about anything. He has morals is 405 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: just not factoring in into his decision calculus. What he's 406 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: doing right now, Sean, if he's trying to make Ukraine unlivable, 407 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: he's unleashing hell. Forty percent of the country's energy infrastructure 408 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: has been crippled. Multiple industries have been current devastating cyber attacks. 409 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:32,440 Speaker 1: The Ukrainians don't have water, they don't have heat, they 410 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: don't have electricity. He is plunging into darkness. You know, 411 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: half a million home homes have lost power. And if 412 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: there's no water, there's no sewage. If you can't flush 413 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,680 Speaker 1: the toilet, there's gonna be diseased. So that is exactly 414 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,240 Speaker 1: what Putin is trying to do. Is part of the 415 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:58,640 Speaker 1: new strategy called strategy of indirect action. I have an 416 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 1: unclassified analytic peace published from the Fox News website called 417 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: what is Putin's thinking? Where Russia Ukraine war stands nine 418 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: months after invasion and I go through the battlefield, the 419 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: new strategies, his health, regime stability, and what the future holds. 420 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,919 Speaker 1: So this is not gonna end anytime soon, because, like 421 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 1: you said, Putin is unwishing punishing, you know, attacks not 422 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: only on keV in Ukraine, but also non kinetic asymmetric 423 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,679 Speaker 1: attacks on Europe by strangling the ability to shoot themselves 424 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: and to you know, to survive. All right, quick break 425 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Moore with Rebecca Koffler on the other side, and then 426 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: we'll get to your calls from Greg Jarrett. Final Hour 427 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: roundup is next. You do not want to miss it, 428 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: and stay tuned for the final hour freeverall on the 429 00:24:54,000 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: Sean Hannity Show. Right, Rebecca Koffler is with us now 430 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: that these missiles landed in Poland and the NATO response, 431 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: are they going to be ready for such a response 432 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: if in fact, Vladimir Putin goes crazier than even as 433 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,879 Speaker 1: today You really to say whether this missile is fired 434 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: from Russia. There is plumber information that contests that I 435 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: don't want to say that till we completely investigate, you 436 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: have no indication that Russia is preparing offensive military actions 437 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: against NATO. Our preliminary analysis suggests that the incident was 438 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: likely caused by a Ukrainian air defense missile fired to 439 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 1: defend Ukrainian territory against Russian cruise missile attacks. But let 440 00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: me be clear, this is not Ukraine's fault. Russia bears 441 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:10,360 Speaker 1: ultimate responsibility as it continues. It's illegal war against Ukraine. 442 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: So you're convinced that he's willing to go so far, 443 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 1: but not that far. He doesn't want to take on NATO. 444 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: I think one of the bigger surprises to come out 445 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: of this conflict is I think had Western Europe given 446 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: Zolensky and the US given Zolensky the weaponry to win 447 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 1: the war from the very get go, I think this 448 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: would have been over a long time ago. And I think, 449 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: you know, the hesitancy of many countries to go all 450 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: in and defeat Putin kind of surprised me. The other 451 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: thing that surprised me is I thought the Russian military 452 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: would roll right, you know, right all the way through 453 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: Ukraine right to Kiev, and they'd be in charge by now. 454 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: They have shown. The Ukrainian people have shown a remarkable resilience, 455 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 1: tremendous courage, but I don't think they've been given the 456 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: weaponry actually win the war. Am I wrong? You're correct 457 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: and done, But unfortunately there's no amount of weaponry that 458 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: we can provide basically depleting our own arsenal and emptying 459 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: out our treasury to Ukraine that would make a military 460 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: path to victory viable Sean. And that is simply because 461 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: the Russians are not just looking at the battlefield and 462 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: at the weapons. That's not what wins the war. Right, 463 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: the Putin is not a Muhammad Ali. He's not a boxer. 464 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 1: He's not going to deliver a knockout. But what he 465 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: is is he is a mixed martial art artist. I'll 466 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 1: just give you that comparison, right, and he's gonna do. 467 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: What he's trying to do is a real naked choke. 468 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: He's a judo player and so and if he finds 469 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: the right moment, he will unbalance the adversary buying. And 470 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,199 Speaker 1: we discussed it on your show many other times. The 471 00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 1: low yield tactical nuclear warhead. For Zolensky to think about 472 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,679 Speaker 1: capitulation and so yes, we can keep providing billions and 473 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: billions of dollars, but it's not going to make Putin 474 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:16,239 Speaker 1: stop waging like a low intensity, low grade conflict and 475 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: then eventually turn Ukraine into a frozen conflict. And by 476 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: that he will have achieved his victory because his definition 477 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: of victory is different from Zelenski. But Jolenski is trying 478 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: to do is expelled the Russians completely out of Ukraine, 479 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: included Crimea. Well, that is mathematically impossible. What Putin is 480 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: trying to do is limited goals. Is denying Ukraine the 481 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 1: ability to be part of NATO and ability to be 482 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: part of the Western sphere, and that is the ultimate goal. 483 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: But he's already been given the assurance that Ukraine is 484 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: not going to join NATO. He's got that assurance. Well, 485 00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: he wants that assurance in writing. And he also wants 486 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: to keep the territories. Remember, he wants to keep Crimea, 487 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: and he wants to keep the four territories that he 488 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: has a next uh Zaparisia, he Um, Lugansk, uh Donuts, 489 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: all of those areas. Even though technically Ukrainians have reclaimed 490 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 1: your son right, which a strategic city, but it is 491 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: my assessment that Putin has set up a trap. Yes 492 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: they have retreated, but you mentioned don a minute ago 493 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 1: the possibility of you know, radiological um as good how 494 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 1: you phrased it. But my assessment that Putin has possibly 495 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: will use a dirty bomb. This is the official name 496 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:50,040 Speaker 1: is RDD radiological dispersal device. This is what Ukrainian intelligence 497 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 1: has warned us about. A dirty bomb or right to 498 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: do that. A dirty bomb or a dirty bomb and 499 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: a tactical nuke. These are two different things. Yes you 500 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: could he can do both, but dirty bomb is even 501 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: lower on the escortory scale. But even I know what 502 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: the difference is. But he's been threatening nuclear nuclear strike. 503 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: He hasn't been threatening to use a dirty bomb. So no, 504 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: he hasn't used this information we got from Ukraine as 505 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: he's not warning about UM that but because he likes 506 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: to do a yah diversion. But this is a very 507 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 1: very bad you know, type of weapon. It has no 508 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 1: military the dirty bomb, the r DDS. What I'm talking about, 509 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: it is basically like what we had uh in Afghanistan 510 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: and Iraq to the I e Eds. This is this 511 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: is like an improvised nuclear device, if you will. It 512 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 1: is um. It has dynamite, but it also laced with 513 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: radiological powder, and it causes modern to ceva, burns, irradiation, uh, 514 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 1: sickness and all kinds of horrible things, with the idea 515 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: of being to make people suffer so much that they 516 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: abandoned the will to fight and they flee Ukraine as 517 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: unfortunately they are right now because he's making key of unlivable. 518 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 1: All right, we really appreciate the update. Thank you, Rebecca Coffler. 519 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: We'll continue to follow the story over time. It's getting 520 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 1: a little scary out there. By the way, Greg Jarrett 521 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: in the next hour, we'll check in with him. 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