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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 1: Hello, everyone, welcome back to another NFL episode of the

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Speaker 1: Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Freeman, the editor in chief

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Speaker 1: of Fantasy Labs. Today we are highlighting fantasy football sleepers

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Speaker 1: for your twenty nineteen drafts, and we have a full

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Speaker 1: house here. With me is Sean Corner and Chris Raybond.

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Speaker 1: Sean is our director of predictive Analytics and one of

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Speaker 1: the top end season fantasy football rankers for the past

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Speaker 1: half decade. And Chris is a senior editor and analyst

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Speaker 1: at the Action Network and a co host of the

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Speaker 1: Action Network show on Sirius XM Fantasy Radio. Raybaon, you

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Speaker 1: and I have been cornerless on the last couple of pods. Sean,

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Speaker 1: did you have a good little vacation this past week?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was at a wedding, So yeah, it was nice.

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Speaker 4: Congrats to Matt and Lindsay for their wedding, and glad

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Speaker 4: to have the band back together. I feel like it's

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Speaker 4: been like a month since all three of us have

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Speaker 1: It's been a long time. Good to be back, and

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Speaker 1: good to be back with you guys, and good to

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Speaker 1: have with us. Christopher Harris here to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Sleepers and the players that he is planting his flag on.

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Speaker 1: Christopher Harris is the proprietor of Harris Football. He's a podcaster,

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Speaker 1: a YouTuber, and one of the ogs of the fantasy

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Speaker 1: football industry. Chris, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what happens when you're in ESPN. That was

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Speaker 5: a long time ago. It seems like a long time.

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Speaker 5: It's only four years. It seems like a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: It was a lifetime ago, and that so much has happened,

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Speaker 1: has really exploded since then. But yeah, you were you

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Speaker 1: were one of the early guys I was reading, so

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Speaker 1: it's cool to have me on the show. We are

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Speaker 1: entering Week three of the NFL preseason. We're in the

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Speaker 1: thick of drafting season and everyone is looking at projections

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Speaker 1: and rankings and trying to identify sleepers, and Chris, I

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Speaker 1: would like to get some insight into your ranking and

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Speaker 1: projections process. What are the stats, where are the numbers?

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Speaker 1: What are the things you prioritize when evaluating players?

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Speaker 5: So I think you probably already know the answer that question.

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Speaker 5: This is like a leading question. I'm in the hornet's nest.

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Speaker 5: You're just gonna knock me into cut my knees out

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Speaker 5: from under me. But you know my goal, and I

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Speaker 5: don't always live up to this goal. My goal is

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Speaker 5: to try to make the actual player ability be the

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Speaker 5: most important thing in the equation. Sometimes I fail utterly, miserably.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I have three RAMS receivers in my top twenty.

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Speaker 5: That is not that they are the three most talented

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Speaker 5: And similarly, you know Damian Williams on another team, I'd

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Speaker 5: lying if I said talent is always the leading factor.

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Speaker 5: So my stick is that basically I watch every game

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Speaker 5: during the season, and then in the off season, I

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Speaker 5: I recognize that I fail in that sometimes, and I

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Speaker 1: So, Chris, you mentioned trying to cut through the noise,

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Speaker 1: So what do you think is an acceptable modern day

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Speaker 5: I used to have a much easier job ten years ago.

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Speaker 5: Really talking about is guys who come at what we

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Speaker 1: And some of those guys that you have recently planted

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Speaker 5: I think we're a couple of rounds off on Digson.

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Speaker 5: I just think they both can be good, and Diggs

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Mixon is the guy who kind of stands

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Speaker 5: So again, I mean maybe his his average effisation might

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Speaker 5: be fIF I might be a ten. Right, So that's

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Speaker 5: not meant to capture some dramatic miscarriage of justice where

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Speaker 5: oh my god, I can't believe how late Joe Mixon going.

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Speaker 5: That's much more about me saying, you know what, no

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Speaker 5: And I don't think whatever the situation of Joe Mixon

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Speaker 5: I think he's so good that I don't worry about

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Speaker 5: team them playing from behind. I don't worry about the

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Speaker 5: offensive lineup. I don't worry about Andy Dalton. He is

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Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk about some of the other players

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Speaker 1: on your planting the flag list who I think people

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback position. Russell Wilson. Are you worried about

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Speaker 5: First of all, my supposition is that we over rely

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Speaker 5: But the reason I don't think he's due for touchdown

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Speaker 5: although he's had thirty plus three out the last four years.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think the one year that he wasn't

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Speaker 5: also I feel like we, you know, the market is

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Speaker 5: not adjusting for the dude's going to run four hundred yards.

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Speaker 5: The dude's probably gonna rush for a touchdown. He didn't

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Speaker 5: Kyler Murray. I really like Kyler Murray's potential in the future.

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Speaker 5: And I can see a world where he's awesome this year.

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Speaker 5: But I can see a world where he's mitched risky.

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Speaker 5: how long do you have to give Kyler Murray?

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Speaker 5: You know, we're all gonna tell all the listeners after

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Speaker 5: You got to hang in there with him, and maybe

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Speaker 1: Right, Sean I want to kick it to you first

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Speaker 1: of all, any thoughts on Wilson and his potential as

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Speaker 4: So first off, I define sleeper as sort of guys

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Speaker 4: really reaching for specific players. So Wilson, you know, my

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen in rounds thirteen fifteen. The reason I don't

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Speaker 1: Ravon, I think the three guys that you are most

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I'm sorry for letting corner go ahead of

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Speaker 1: you and just listing all of those guys, But what

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would actually include Dak Prescott in that.

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Speaker 2: And the league has gotten easy to.

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Speaker 6: But I think the thing with Murray is the Cardinals

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Speaker 2: They're they're trying to shorten games. I think you do

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's always he's always kind of been this

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Speaker 6: getting benched. I think he's a little I'm less excited

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Speaker 2: I kind of really dove into all the play calling tendencies.

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Speaker 5: Like predicting game flow even before the seasons even start started,

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Speaker 3: I mean it's a tough. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think it's at least interesting to say that your

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Speaker 6: So like I'm saying that they have shown this already,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and like but like a significant amount, to the

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Speaker 2: And then it just adds to it.

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Speaker 6: Like So, but I guess if you're saying, like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I think Brian Schottenheimer is a whole different type of

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Speaker 5: I mean, if chip Kelly's system wasn't like an automatic

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Speaker 5: and none of us are saying this. But I didn't

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Speaker 5: think Kyler Murray looked good in the second preseason game.

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Speaker 3: I'm not as into him anymore.

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Speaker 5: Like as soon as that happened, his ADP went down

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Speaker 5: think Lamar Jackson's running style maybe a little more built

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Speaker 3: I gotta run real fast.

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Speaker 1: Chris two running backs, you highlight and your planting the

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Speaker 1: talk about those two guys and specifically their role in

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Speaker 5: I do, at least as value at their ADP, which

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Speaker 5: In some cases, the calls on Lewis and Hines are

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Speaker 3: Maybe these guys.

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Speaker 5: they're going really late. I mean, Nahem Heines is essentially

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Speaker 5: going undrafted in a standard league, and Dean Lewis is

438
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Speaker 5: certainly a double digit round guy. And in each case

439
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Speaker 5: I find, I say flex appeal. I'll take them case

440
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Speaker 5: by case, very briefly. You know, Dean Lewis this time

441
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Speaker 5: last summer, it was a debate like who was more

442
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Speaker 5: valuable Derrick Henry Dean Lewis. As of week thirteen during

443
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Speaker 5: the season last year, Dean Lewis had more Standard League

444
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Speaker 5: Fantasy points than Derrick Henry.

445
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Speaker 3: And I get it.

446
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Speaker 5: The Titans found their soul and learned everything they need

447
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Speaker 5: to learn about them. So elves in December last year

448
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 5: and suddenly Henry's great. But the market actually doesn't think.

449
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Speaker 5: So I'm proud of the market for not biting on

450
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Speaker 5: Derek Henry is like pick number fifteen or whatever, which

451
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Speaker 5: is what I worried what would happen? And yet as

452
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Speaker 5: they show moderation on Henry, it feels like they're just

453
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Speaker 5: sort of forgetting that Lewis is there and he's a

454
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Speaker 5: pretty good player. I mean, he can catch a bunch

455
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Speaker 5: of passes, he can be that satellite back. He had

456
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Speaker 5: goal one touchdown last year. Henry's going to get most

457
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Speaker 5: of those, but there's some there's potentially a little bit

458
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Speaker 5: of you know, six seven touchdown work out there for him.

459
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Speaker 5: I feel like again as a as a potential flex

460
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Speaker 5: if the Titans offense is better than we think, which

461
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Speaker 5: we don't think it's possible.

462
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Speaker 3: Right now, but who knows.

463
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Speaker 5: I have some I have some interest and then nahem, heines.

464
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Speaker 5: I've said this on a bunch of shows, but this

465
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Speaker 5: is a like a sub four to four world class sprinter.

466
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Speaker 5: The fact that that dude in his rookie year didn't

467
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Speaker 5: make a single play, you know, a lot of touches,

468
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Speaker 5: didn't make a single play over twenty eight yards is

469
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Speaker 5: just weird. Like either he has the worst vision in

470
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Speaker 5: the NFL, like he's he's like me, he's like magoo level,

471
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Speaker 5: like I'm taking off my glasses and now I can't

472
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Speaker 5: see anything, or I just think it was bad luck

473
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Speaker 5: and he probably to me doesn't need a huge workload

474
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Speaker 5: increase to produce a bunch of big plays. To me,

475
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Speaker 5: he's Tarik Cohen light. So I kind of my line

476
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Speaker 5: on Naim Heines is, whatever you think of Tarik Cohen,

477
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Speaker 5: you should think about eighty percent of that of Name Heines,

478
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Speaker 5: And to leave him essentially undrafted feels like leaving something

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Speaker 5: on the table.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not hard to imagine a world in which

481
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Speaker 1: Lewis and Hines are both running back threes in fantasy.

482
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Speaker 1: That is easily in the realm of possibilities, especially in

483
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Speaker 1: point per reception leagues. Sean, I'd like to get thoughts

484
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Speaker 1: on your potential sleepers at running back.

485
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Speaker 4: So for my sleepers, I've said it time and time again.

486
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Speaker 4: I typically try to target wide receiver early on, and

487
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Speaker 4: then I attack the RB two tier, typically in round

488
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Speaker 4: three and four. And the guy that I consider a

489
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Speaker 4: sleeper that's going, you know, around three to five that

490
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Speaker 4: I've been ending up with a lot is Chris Carson.

491
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Speaker 4: His ADP is definitely gonna start catching up with him.

492
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, earlier in the offseason and people

493
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Speaker 4: are a little bit worried about his knee surgery. People

494
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Speaker 4: thought Penny would possibly take him over this year and

495
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,199
Speaker 4: it's becoming clear that this this is his backfield. And

496
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Speaker 4: you know we already mentioned it, but Sales very run

497
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Speaker 4: heavy team. Chris Carson is the goal line back, and

498
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Speaker 4: I've talked about it before, but Russell Wilson only had

499
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Speaker 4: three rush attempts inside the ten yard line last year,

500
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Speaker 4: so I think he's going to have some massive touch

501
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Speaker 4: on upside again this year. And uh, he's He's just

502
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Speaker 4: a guy that I don't really go out of my

503
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Speaker 4: way for him. He just fits perfectly my draft strategy.

504
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Speaker 4: So Chris Carson is my sort of early round sleeper pick,

505
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Speaker 4: and then in the middle rounds Latavious Murray. I've talked

506
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Speaker 4: about him many times already, but I just love his

507
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Speaker 4: just built in upside where you know you can get

508
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Speaker 4: him round six through eight. We're typically starting to dip

509
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Speaker 4: in backup running backs anyway, And whether or not he

510
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Speaker 4: actually takes over the full marking role, I think he

511
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Speaker 4: will be able to have some low, low end RB

512
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Speaker 4: two or flex you know, week weekly value. But if

513
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Speaker 4: Kamara were get injured, he'd be a low end RB

514
00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 4: two RB one in my model. So I just love

515
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Speaker 4: that built in upside. So I think he's a he's

516
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Speaker 4: a pretty good bye at his price right now as

517
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Speaker 4: the thirty fifth running back off the board, and then

518
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Speaker 4: just late late round running backs. I don't draft a

519
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 4: kicker and defense just so I can stash two more

520
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 4: flyer running backs these these next couple of weeks, we're

521
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Speaker 4: we're recording this before a week three preseason where we

522
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 4: typically see the starters play a bunch, so there could

523
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Speaker 4: be some big name injuries this week. So I think

524
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Speaker 4: if you're drafting right now, it's it's key to kind

525
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 4: of add as many of these guys as possible. But

526
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Speaker 4: guys like Matt Buried to Justice Hill, Alexander Madison, Damien Harris,

527
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,399
Speaker 4: Justin Jackson, Devin Singletary, guys like that, it's it's so

528
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Speaker 4: hard for us to actually predict which guys will you know,

529
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Speaker 4: become the league winners like last year. I think it's

530
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Speaker 4: often time, you know, a player gets hurt or there's

531
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Speaker 4: a holdout and they become a league winner, and that's

532
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Speaker 4: you know, a lot of it unfortunately comes down to luck.

533
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Speaker 4: So I think just kind of stashing as many of

534
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Speaker 4: these guys on your bench to start the season in

535
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Speaker 4: sort of how I approach running back.

536
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Speaker 5: Can I just I want to quickly throw in that

537
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Speaker 5: Brita is such a good call. I can't even believe

538
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 5: there's such a distance between him and Tevin Coleman. I

539
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 5: think Brita might be better at a standard league than

540
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Speaker 5: Tevin Coleman. I think that's such a good call.

541
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I mean, you know, this whole offseason, we've

542
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:18,040
Speaker 4: you know, thought about the forty nine ers backfield as

543
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 4: being crowded, but there's a chance that they put McKinnon

544
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,600
Speaker 4: on the ir so we're already seeing things open up

545
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 4: for Brita. So it just goes to show that running back.

546
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Speaker 4: You know, we love to talk about talent and stuff,

547
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 4: but it comes down to opportunity and a lot of

548
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 4: times it could be just luck, you know, a player

549
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Speaker 4: getting injured. So just kind of putting herself in position

550
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Speaker 4: that know, which those players have that upside I think

551
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Speaker 4: is key and Brita.

552
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Speaker 2: I looked at this.

553
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Speaker 6: In his last six games where he wasn't the lead

554
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 6: back or like he wasn't the starter, in five of

555
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 6: those six games, he had exactly twelve or thirteen touches.

556
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:52,080
Speaker 6: So that means that Shanahan just he wants to involve

557
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,400
Speaker 6: this guy, it doesn't matter who else is in the backfield,

558
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 6: Like Matt bred is going to get a certain number

559
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Speaker 6: of plays. And like even on that Jimmy garoppolo interception

560
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,120
Speaker 6: against the Broncos, I was like that Matt Brida wheel route,

561
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 6: if he sees Brita and it hasn't locked in on Goodwin,

562
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 6: that's probably a touchdown. So like Matt Brida, you know,

563
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 6: within that scheme, I think has has some major upside.

564
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Speaker 1: So Rayvon Brita is one of your guys who were

565
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: sniped again by corner unacceptable. It's uh, But who are

566
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: some of your other sleepers at running backs?

567
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Speaker 6: Well, you know, I've been talking about Darwin Thompson. I

568
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 6: mean since I think one of the first pods we

569
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Speaker 6: did in the offseason. I was like, hey, you know

570
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 6: it's this guy. They like him, they draft him in

571
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Speaker 6: the sixth round. They wanted to trade up Darwin Thompson.

572
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 6: I mean on the Chiefs, I think you have to

573
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 6: look at anybody in that offense.

574
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Speaker 2: And Thompson's a guy who listened Carlos Hyde.

575
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Speaker 6: He's a guy that can run some power with you

576
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 6: know when you're under center, maybe a kind of ice

577
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 6: in the clock but if Damian Williams goes down or

578
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,879
Speaker 6: something happens with him, uh tarmin, Darwin Thompson is the

579
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 6: better passing down back. He's a he has a lot

580
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Speaker 6: of explosion as I'm sure people have seen it in

581
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Speaker 6: the preseason, and I think he'd be heavily involved in

582
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Speaker 6: He has a chance to kind of jump hide just

583
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,440
Speaker 6: in the the you know, the the usage totem pull

584
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 6: right off the bat. So Darlin Thompson the guy going

585
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 6: really late that I like. And then I think, you know,

586
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 6: going back to just what is the definition of a sleeper,

587
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 6: A guy who you know probably is just going a

588
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 6: little bit too well. And I think there are some

589
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 6: un sexy sleepers out there that don't even need an

590
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 6: injury that just from day one, and one of those

591
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 6: guys is Peyton Barber. I think Peyton Barber is clearly

592
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 6: going to stay in the lead in that in.

593
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 2: That running back rotation. I think he's better than Ronald Jones.

594
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 6: I think the reason they talked Ronald Jones up all

595
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 6: off season was because the guy had no confidence. Last

596
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:32,560
Speaker 6: year he ran like what he had like one point

597
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 6: something yards per carry in a pre and regular season,

598
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 6: so arians didn't draft. This guy he gave Rishard Mendenhall

599
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 6: like fifteen carries a game in Arizona. I think Barber's

600
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Speaker 6: going to be that guy in Tampa. I think kylen

601
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,600
Speaker 6: Blage guy, he's going to be heavily involved, whether Drake's

602
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 6: you know, in the lineup or not. So those two guys,

603
00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 6: and I totally agree with like Tarik Cohen going too high.

604
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 6: I think Montgomery is going a little bit high as well.

605
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 6: He's talented, but it's gonna be tough for him to

606
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Speaker 6: pay off his eight in the top fifty. I think

607
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 6: Mike Davis is going to be involved, so I think

608
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 6: he's a guy that's going too low. And if something

609
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 6: happens to either one of those guys, you're gonna get

610
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Speaker 6: essentially a lot of the value you were looking for

611
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Speaker 6: out of these guys that are going in the top

612
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Speaker 6: you know, seventy eighty picks or before that out of

613
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Speaker 6: my Davis.

614
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Speaker 2: So those are some less sexy picks that I think

615
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 2: are sweepers.

616
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:20,879
Speaker 3: And C. J.

617
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: Anderson for the Lions as well.

618
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Speaker 3: And CJ.

619
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Speaker 1: Anderson, I'm definitely with you on Peyton Barber. He's a

620
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: guy I like quite a bit, especially in that Bruce

621
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Speaker 1: arians offense. I think one of them, whether it's Barber

622
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Speaker 1: or Ronald Jones, but I would bet a little more

623
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Speaker 1: on Barber. I think one of them ends up kind

624
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: of seizing the lion's share of the workload there and

625
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: having some decent production.

626
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Speaker 6: I would bet on I would bet you that their

627
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Speaker 6: third back a Goombo Wally jumps Ronald Jones before I

628
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 6: would have bet Ronald Jones jumps Barber like I could

629
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Speaker 6: see a situation where Jones is just right back to

630
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Speaker 6: like healthy scratch status.

631
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Speaker 1: There's an on zero chance that Andre Ellington drops Ronald

632
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 1: Jones down the depth chart that can legitimately happen. Yeah, Okay, Chris,

633
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about wide receivers. Dante Pettis is the late

634
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: round wide receiver that you highlighted in your piece. Reports

635
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,239
Speaker 1: haven't been great coming out of training camp. But at

636
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: the same time, this time of theory, you kind of

637
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: have to question what reports actually mean. But what are

638
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: your thoughts on his role versus the role of some

639
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 1: of the other wide receivers in San Francisco.

640
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean the answer is, I don't know. I

641
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 5: don't know what Kyle Shanahan meant. It's funny because I

642
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 5: always harangue my audience about how only pay attention to

643
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 5: things coaches say when it's negative.

644
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: Otherwise it's all fluff. You don't know what to believe.

645
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 5: And then he says a negative thing, and I go, oh,

646
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 5: it's about Dante Pettis, and don't I like him, so

647
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 5: don't pay attention. Like that's pretty hypocritical of me, obviously,

648
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 5: so it could mean something bad. I totally acknowledged that

649
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 5: it became riskier to be in the Dante Pettis business

650
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: last week than it had been, so I don't pretend

651
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 5: to know. But I also don't particularly love Marquis Goodwin.

652
00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 5: You know, Deebo Samuel is interesting, but seeming seems to

653
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 5: me fits the profile of somebody who won in college

654
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 5: by being just stronger and more physical than the people

655
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 5: who were covering him, not necessarily by running routes or

656
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 5: being super fast. And I think that can work in

657
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Speaker 5: the NFL, but it might take a little while. And

658
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Speaker 5: the bottom line is I just really like Dante pett

659
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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know if he's late round, but

660
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 5: he's you know, he's sort of middle round, and I

661
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 5: very much like him. I just put out a video

662
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Speaker 5: on the YouTube channel with the five best route runners

663
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Speaker 5: in the NFL. Dante Pettis didn't make the list because

664
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Speaker 5: he's got oh, I don't know, twenty seven current catches,

665
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 5: so maybe it's a little premature for me to be

666
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 5: put him in that category, but I did as a

667
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 5: little bonus, just added a couple of plays because that kid,

668
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 5: when he came back from injury last year, was sick.

669
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Speaker 5: I think the reason we all care about the guys

670
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 5: who are the route runners is that they become less

671
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Speaker 5: dependent on situation.

672
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 3: They become less dependent on who the quarterback is.

673
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 5: They become not fully independent, but less dependent on how

674
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Speaker 5: defenses are defending them, how good the offense is, all

675
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 5: that stuff, because they're just open a lot, and people

676
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 5: quarterback like to throw to open receivers. It's the reason

677
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 5: why Keenan Allen can get away with being I mean,

678
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 5: we realized that if Keenan Allen lined up in a

679
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Speaker 5: foot race with every single cornerback in the NFL, he'd lose.

680
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Speaker 3: That's not a joke.

681
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 5: Every single one would beat him in a foot race.

682
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 5: And yet he's unguardable because he's such an incredible rout runner.

683
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 5: And I think Pettis is sort of heading in that direction,

684
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Speaker 5: acknowledging that there is risk of what Shanny Junior said.

685
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 5: But by the same token, maybe that's a buying opportunity.

686
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: Maybe that was a motivational ploy. I don't pretend to understand,

687
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 5: but maybe it's some noise that drives down the ADP

688
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 5: a little bit.

689
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Speaker 3: And I'm a big fan.

690
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Speaker 2: Here that Freeman. Hear that Freeman Keenan.

691
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Speaker 1: Allen, Yeah, I heard it wonderful.

692
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Speaker 5: I can't tell whether that's that you just don't believe

693
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Speaker 5: in Dante Pettis or that you're like Keenan Allen man.

694
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Speaker 4: No.

695
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Speaker 6: So we had like the defining moment, one of the

696
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Speaker 6: defining moments of this podcast when it was newer, it

697
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Speaker 6: was it was, you know, Freedman corner and I and

698
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Speaker 6: I guess it was like a question of whether who

699
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Speaker 6: is a better pick, aj Green or Keenan Allen, Me

700
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 6: and Freeman just got into it for so long that corner.

701
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Speaker 2: It was just like a bystander at this point. It

702
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 2: was like a twenty minute it was.

703
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Speaker 1: He was a running thread. It went through multiple episodes.

704
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: I had Keenan Outen.

705
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Speaker 1: Early in the season. Things looked decent for me, and

706
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Speaker 1: then the AJ Green injury happened and it wasn't so good.

707
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Speaker 1: It's it's not so good for the AJ Green side

708
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Speaker 1: of this right now. That's okay. So you mentioned Dante

709
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Speaker 1: Pettis there, and one of the things that's intriguing about

710
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Speaker 1: him is he is going into his second season and

711
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Speaker 1: I think for the wide receivers, you know, it's hard

712
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Speaker 1: to play in the NFL as a rookie, especially as

713
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Speaker 1: a receiver, and so we generally see a bump in

714
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Speaker 1: production for receivers as they're going into their second year.

715
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Speaker 1: And I thought last year's rookie class was actually pretty talented.

716
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Speaker 1: So you go through this list of guys, Courtland Sutton,

717
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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, Anthony Miller, James Washington, DJ Shark not that

718
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: interested in him, but still I have to mention him,

719
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Speaker 1: Michael Gallup, Trey Quan Smith, Kiki qt, Antonio Callaway, DeShawn Hamilton,

720
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Speaker 1: Marquis Valdez, Gantling. That is a list of pretty like

721
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Speaker 1: significant talent. Chris, out of those guys, out of these

722
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Speaker 1: second year wide receivers, other than Dante Pettis, who catches

723
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Speaker 1: your eye as someone who could really outperform his ADP.

724
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Speaker 5: The full list includes, let's see, probably not Antonio Callaway.

725
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 5: Probably Antonio Callaway can go away. I guess the one

726
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 5: who I think is gonna wind up being the best

727
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Speaker 5: player over the course of his career might be Kirk,

728
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Speaker 5: But I also don't think he's coming at a great

729
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Speaker 5: draft value, so maybe I'll say Anthony Miller. I think

730
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Speaker 5: Miller's career ceiling is lower. It strikes me there's a

731
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 5: pretty good chance that he gets pigeonholed as that, you know,

732
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 5: dynamic slot player, but yet still kind of a slot

733
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 5: player and not likely to make a ton of plays

734
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Speaker 5: in the end zone. And so maybe I'm hedging a

735
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Speaker 5: little bit. But I like getting him this year. And

736
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Speaker 5: I think there are nerves around the Bears offense regarding

737
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 5: too many mouths to feed, which isn't always an argument

738
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Speaker 5: I find somewhat specious, because if you hit the right offense,

739
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 5: and the Bears offense could very well be the right offense,

740
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 5: there's never too many mouths to feed. It's you know,

741
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 5: if you get the rams of the Chiefs, we want

742
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 5: every mouth we can get, And you know, I think

743
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 5: Miller's a very nice dynamic player. Again, Kirk would probably

744
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 5: be my choice if I were starting an NFL team,

745
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Speaker 5: But it feels to me like you can get Miller

746
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 5: at a better price sleeper wise.

747
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Speaker 1: Out of the second year guys who catch my eye

748
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to kick it to you, Shawn.

749
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 1: The guys who catch my eye James Washington, because he

750
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: was productive in college. I think he has good athleticism.

751
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: He's looked pretty good in the preseason. It's hard to

752
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: know how to contextualize that preseason production, but I would

753
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 1: still rather have him look good in the preseason than

754
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: not another guy tray Quan Smith, just because of what

755
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: he was able to do in college, the production he had,

756
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: his athleticism, his landing spot in New Orleans. I think

757
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: he will be volatile, but it wouldn't be a surprise

758
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: to me if at the end of the year he

759
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: had nine hundred ish yards and seven touchdowns, and that

760
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: would make him fantasy viable. And then Kiki Qt as

761
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: a slot receiver for the Texans. I think he has

762
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Speaker 1: a lot of potential. There are just questions about whether

763
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Speaker 1: he will be able to stay healthy or not, because

764
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Speaker 1: up to this point in his NFL career, he hasn't

765
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Speaker 1: really been able to exhibit the ability to stay on

766
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Speaker 1: the field. But those are the guys who are really

767
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Speaker 1: catching my eye, Sean. Who are the wide receivers you

768
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Speaker 1: are thinking of as sleepers?

769
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 4: You know, I I typically target wide receivers early, and

770
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: so if you haven't listened to my advice and you

771
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Speaker 4: still don't have your third or final flex slot by

772
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Speaker 4: round rounds eight or nine, I think D D. Westbrook

773
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 4: is your last chance to get a number one receiver

774
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,200
Speaker 4: for their team. I just think he's a great value

775
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: right there. Marquise Lee is if you to start there,

776
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: there's a chance skins up on the pup. So I

777
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 4: think that's that's open things up for D D in

778
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 4: my model. So you're gonna have guys like DJ Chark

779
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: and Chris Connelly competing for the you know, the wide

780
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 4: receiver two status for that team. I think, you know

781
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 4: Westbrook will be Nick foles top target. And you know

782
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 4: new OC John D. Fluppo. He essentially got fired from

783
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 4: Minnesota for trying to throw too much, so that couldn't

784
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: hurt either. But yeah, I think just he's my mid

785
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 4: round sleeper guy. Typically, I'm already gonna have all my

786
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 4: starters bright now, so he'd probably first got I have

787
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Speaker 4: on the bench. In the later rounds, I kind of

788
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 4: have it broken down by buckets, so I have late

789
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 4: round upside guys. So this is if you're all set

790
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 4: at wide receiver, you're stacked. I try to target guys

791
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 4: like John Brown or to Shaun Jackson in rounds eleven

792
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 4: through fifteen. I'm just trying to get streaky guys who

793
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 4: we know sort of have a high ceiling, low floor,

794
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 4: and if they got get off to hot start, I'll

795
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 4: trade him to a wide receiver needy team. We saw

796
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 4: it last year with Shaun Jackson was the wide receiver

797
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 4: two after week four, you could have flipped him for

798
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 4: somebody like Robbie Anderson or something. So they're just kind

799
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 4: of trade investments for my bench. Now, if you kind

800
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 4: of slack off the wide receiver early on, or you

801
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 4: take guy like aj Green, I think taking you know,

802
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: a higher floor guy in the later rounds that you'll

803
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 4: probably start right away, like a Jamison Crowder in a

804
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: PPR format, I think it's perfect. You know, he's a

805
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 4: great guy to kind of just give you several points

806
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 4: to start, and then you know I have him kind

807
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 4: of getting a bit of a drop off once Chris

808
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 4: Hernon returns. So if you have AJ Green, that kind

809
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: of maps up perfectly with AJ Green, so you can

810
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 4: kind of take AJ Green and then Jamison Crowder later

811
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: on to kind of maximize AJ Green's value. So I

812
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 4: think that's a sneaky way to kind of handle them

813
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 4: later on of the draft that wide receiver.

814
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Speaker 1: Speaking of sneaky once again, I must say, you sniped

815
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: our friend Chris Raven And I mean he actually had

816
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Speaker 1: all of his players written on the show sheet, and

817
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: you come in, don't have anything written, and then you

818
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: write down list that overlaps a little bit with his.

819
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it's a little bit.

820
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Speaker 4: I'm a little less about the player. It's more of

821
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Speaker 4: the strategy. So Rayvun you can have the player. I'm

822
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 4: just taking a late round guy with the higher floor

823
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 4: in that spot, so you can have Crowder specifically, he's

824
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 4: all yours.

825
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm not excited about the

826
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Speaker 6: Jets in general, but I do think, no, the sleepers

827
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Speaker 6: at wide receiver, they do depend on scoring form, and

828
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 6: I think a little more than the other positions. So

829
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Speaker 6: I think in PPR leagues, I think Jamison Crowder you

830
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 6: have to look at guys who could lead their team

831
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Speaker 6: in reception, even if they don't necessarily lead many yardage,

832
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 6: because receptions are more predictable, more consistent, and you know,

833
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 6: just by getting receptions you open yourself up to chances too.

834
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 6: You know, a guy falls down, you get a big play,

835
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Speaker 6: you know, yeah, you get touchdown. So reception leaders for

836
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 6: their team. I think Crowder could lead the Jets and receptions.

837
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Speaker 6: I think Adam Humphries, it is not being talked about

838
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 6: at all. I think I would easily bet on him

839
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 6: to lead the Titans and receptions over Corey Davis. I

840
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 6: think a lower end version of this, who at the

841
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 6: beginning of the year wasn't as bullish on but after

842
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 6: kind of understanding the scheme and seeing Josh Allen in

843
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 6: the preseason, I think.

844
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Speaker 2: Cole Bees was going to lead the Bills and receptions.

845
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Speaker 6: Now I think, though I don't know how valuable that

846
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 6: will be, but in a PPR league, I think these

847
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 6: are kind of those high floor guys who you know,

848
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 6: the quote unquote ceilings a little higher for them because

849
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,720
Speaker 6: they could catch four or five balls every game, and

850
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 6: now you're talking about, you know, sixty to eighty catches

851
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 6: and that is going to get you pretty you know,

852
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 6: for a PPR lead, a pretty good ceiling, especially for

853
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 6: where they are going, which is pretty late. So those

854
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 6: guys and then in stands are just you know, kind

855
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 6: of half PPR.

856
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 2: Roshard Higgins for the Browns.

857
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Speaker 6: I think I was very high on Colaway, but with

858
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 6: the suspension and how well Higgins has played and how

859
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 6: efficient he was with Baker Mayfield last year, I think

860
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Speaker 6: this is another one of those offenses where like Chris said,

861
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 6: you just want all the mouths and Rochard Higgins gonna

862
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 6: get single coverage every play because he got Beckham, he

863
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 6: got Landry. You still gotta worry about Chubb. You're gonna

864
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 6: have to worry about Hunting. The joke like single coverage

865
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Speaker 6: every play. They spread the ball around. I really like

866
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Speaker 6: him and Mikole Hardman of the Chiefs. I mean they

867
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 6: they're gonna probably play him in the slot a lot,

868
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 6: and he might actually force DeMarcus Robinson to take on

869
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 6: a lesser role.

870
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 2: Like last year their offense.

871
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 6: Was more like you know, they had Conley out there,

872
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 6: Robinson was going to kind of take that role on.

873
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 6: But now as well as Hardman's playing, he might be

874
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,919
Speaker 6: that third receiver, and you want guys on the field

875
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 6: in this offense. And if anything happens to Tyreek Hill,

876
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 6: who you know, let's say he gets suspended again, Let's say,

877
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 6: you know whatever. He's a small guy, so he gets

878
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 6: hurt hardman, he's right back to kind of stepping into

879
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 6: that role as well.

880
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: So like the upside for him as well.

881
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 6: And as far as just the second year guys, I

882
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 6: think DJ Shark's a little sneakier than we think because

883
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 6: Ki Filippo, as Sean mentioned, throws a ton. The Jaguars

884
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,760
Speaker 6: really struggled running four nette like under three yards of carry,

885
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 6: you know, in second down in any pretty much any

886
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 6: second and short third and short third medium.

887
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:17,879
Speaker 2: I think they want to throw more.

888
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 6: I think Nick Foles is going to allow them to

889
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 6: because they were trying to hide Bortles. And I think Shark,

890
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,840
Speaker 6: and he worked with Conley before in casey Shark is

891
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 6: a guy who's been playing really well all camp, has

892
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 6: a lot of talent, is prime to make that second

893
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 6: year jump. I like all three of their receivers as

894
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 6: values because their tight ends have been hurt.

895
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 2: You know.

896
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 6: Furnette, Yeah, I think he'll catch a little more a

897
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 6: few more passes. But you know, they released Benny Cunningham,

898
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 6: was who is going to be the third down back

899
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 6: and probably play that Yelden role by the way, So

900
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 6: they don't have Yelden and they don't have Benny Cunningham.

901
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 6: There are a lot of pass targets to go around

902
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 6: for a coordinator that likes to throw the ball. So

903
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 6: I think all three of these guys are positioned well.

904
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 6: I don't think Marquis Lee will be that much of

905
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 6: a factor, at least early on in the season. So

906
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 6: I think that all three of those guys, especially Tark

907
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 6: and Collie and Standard and in Westbrook and Ppr I

908
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 6: are gonna are going undervalue right now.

909
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: All right, let's close it out by talking about tight

910
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: ends Chris, before we talk about any potential sleepers. I

911
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: just like it to get your feedback on general strategy.

912
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: How important do you think it is to get one

913
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: of the big three tight ends of either Kelsey, Kittle

914
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: or Ertz.

915
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 5: Not that important, I gotta be honest. I didn't the

916
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 5: opportunity cost of not getting the you know, other options

917
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 5: at the at the scarce positions, just as to price

918
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 5: to high a price to pay. We're probably thinking of

919
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 5: tight ends like we think of quarterbacks. You can probably

920
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 5: just wait and get a significant percentage of Travis Kelcey

921
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 5: very very cheap, with the potential for upside to get

922
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 5: a you know, a very significant percentage of Kelsey and

923
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 5: not have to pay that kind of price.

924
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: You know, I get it.

925
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 5: There are some people where it's a comfort thing and

926
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: they feel like if I can just sort of lock

927
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 5: that position down and have a pretty sizable advantage over

928
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 5: the rest of my competitors have Kelsey, and every week

929
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: I'm going into a matchup where I'm playing against Trey Burton,

930
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 5: and I have an advantage. I have enough confidence in

931
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 5: my league that I can fill in with running backs

932
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 5: and wide receivers later in a draft and make up

933
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 5: the difference because there's more of them.

934
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: I hear.

935
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,360
Speaker 5: I hear when people say that, I hear it. It

936
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 5: isn't the way I attack it, as you guys have

937
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 5: probably done too. I've probably done three dozen mock drafts

938
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 5: in the last month. There have been somewhere I've gotten

939
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 5: Ertz to be honest, but usually not so. I would

940
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 5: say waiting on tight end would be my generally preferred strategy, all.

941
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 1: Right, So outside of the big three, who are the

942
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: youngish tight ends that you are interested in, because I'm

943
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: kind of assuming that you're looking more for those guys

944
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: as opposed to the old than injured guys like Elaney Walker,

945
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: Jordan Reed, Tyler Eifer. But maybe those are some guys

946
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 1: are interesting.

947
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 5: Super uncol You're talking to an old and injured guy,

948
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: that's just super uncool.

949
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

950
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 5: No, I mean, listen, if I'm gonna wait till round

951
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 5: thirteen or something, then I get then I'll take Kyle

952
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 5: rud Off for the time being and lock in my

953
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 5: six hundred yards and six touchdowns and feel fine with

954
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 5: it until I find a better solution.

955
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 3: And in some leagues that works, right, But no, I'm

956
00:40:58,120 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 3: with you.

957
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 5: I think the one the tight end that I feel

958
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 5: like I've made the most hay with and all these

959
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 5: mocks that I've done, is David Dajoku. Again, the too

960
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 5: many mouths to feed argument can sometimes turn out to

961
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 5: be absolutely true, so I would never deny that, But

962
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 5: it can also turn out to be the Rams. You know,

963
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: if the Browns are as good as we think, they

964
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: turn out to be the chiefs of the Rams, or

965
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,280
Speaker 5: you know, maybe the Bears or whatever, you know, whatever

966
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 5: name your offense, then there's no such thing as too

967
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 5: many mouths to feed. So I don't panic too much

968
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 5: about that. I certainly do hear people who say, you know,

969
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 5: that's great, you're selling me a first round athlete, but

970
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 5: he's never really shown anything as a football player, And

971
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 5: I go, eh, that's true. I would be making somewhat

972
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 5: of a leap, but I feel like the investment is

973
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,879
Speaker 5: pretty low. Ingram oj Howard Evan Ingram and David Njoku classmates,

974
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 5: you know, first round rates, like profiles, similar like crazy

975
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 5: freak athletes who came into the league with questions about

976
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 5: you know, are they Eric Ebron, Are they guys who

977
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 5: are athletic but there's going to take seven years to

978
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 5: put it together, or can they kind of contribute right away?

979
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 5: And to me, Howard proved that he was a football

980
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 5: player in that last year when he was held they,

981
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 5: whereas Ingram and Najoku haven't. And I have Ingram higher,

982
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,759
Speaker 5: but it seems to me they should be in the

983
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: same conversation, and the fact that Ingram is going so

984
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 5: much higher strikes me as a vote for well, someone's

985
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 5: got to get some targets and that's the argument that

986
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 5: I get scared of. That's the argument that makes you

987
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 5: draft Alex Collins, Royce Freeman, Rashad Penny. I prefer to

988
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 5: make sure that I have someone who can do something

989
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 5: with that presumed workload, and I think Ingram can, but

990
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 5: I think Najoku probably for me, is in that same conversation,

991
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 5: but he's being drafted so much lower that I often

992
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 5: wind up with him.

993
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: Chris, I'm with you on Djoku. In long term, I

994
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: think he has fantastic prospects, especially because he was twenty

995
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: years old when he was drafted, played twenty one years

996
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: old as a rookie, and historically the guys who have

997
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: entered the league that young at that position, sometimes it's

998
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: taken them a little bit of time to catch on,

999
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: like Eric Ebron, but historically they almost all catch on

1000
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: and they have great careers. Sean at tight end, who

1001
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: is it that you were thinking of as a sleeper?

1002
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 4: So for me, if I mess out on any of

1003
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 4: the three, I tend to wait till rounds eight to

1004
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 4: ten because I just love Vance McDonald and Austin Hooper,

1005
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: especially Hooper in round ten, I just keep loving him

1006
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: more and more heading him into the year. You know,

1007
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 4: dirt cutter has typically gotten the most out of his

1008
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 4: tight ends. You know, Mercedes Lewis in Jacksonville, and then

1009
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: you had Tony Gonzalz at the end of his career

1010
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 4: in Atlanta, and then of course Camberraight and Oj Howard

1011
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: and Tampa Bay. I think with Hooper, I'm gonna want

1012
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 4: to see his you know, touchdown rate spike. He has

1013
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 4: a career rate of seven point two percent, which is

1014
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: kind of odd considering his skill set and just you

1015
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 4: know how high scoring the Falcons offenses. So I think

1016
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 4: he could be a surprise touchdown scorer this year. So

1017
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 4: I love him in round ten. And then you know,

1018
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 4: the ultimate late round flyer would be Dallas Goddard. We've

1019
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 4: talked about before, but he has league winning potential if

1020
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,960
Speaker 4: Ertz wherever go down, So I think, if you can

1021
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 4: I've never recommended stashing a tight end, and I'm not

1022
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 4: necessarily doing it, but if your bench can allow, if

1023
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: you say, have more than seven bench slots, He's a

1024
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 4: guy that I would stash just in the event that

1025
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 4: Earth goes down and you have a top five tight end.

1026
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 4: So I love Dallas Goddard. If you can get him

1027
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 4: in like round nineteen or twenty and a deeper league.

1028
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: The name of this episode is corner Dot Stash Dallas Goddard.

1029
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's what I heard you say there, Raymond,

1030
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 1: Who is it that you were liking?

1031
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: Well, I mean, obviously I already gotten sniped a ton,

1032
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 6: but I love, I do love the joke, but I

1033
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 6: totally agree.

1034
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 2: I think they're that Cleveland offense.

1035
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 6: You want every part you can get, and we've seen

1036
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 6: in the past, Uh, you know Todd Munkin with Cutter

1037
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 6: in Tampa getting the most out of their tight end.

1038
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 6: Freddie Kitchens, by the way, it was a tight ends

1039
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 6: coach for seven years and we saw a tight end

1040
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:42,839
Speaker 6: touchdown rate spike most of the time.

1041
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: He was a tight end coach.

1042
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 6: So I think the jok who's touchdown potential is like

1043
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 6: on Ebron levels in that you.

1044
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:49,840
Speaker 2: Have to cover all these other guys.

1045
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 6: Uh, and you know Nidjoku has the athleticism, the score

1046
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 6: and the size to do it. But but you know,

1047
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,840
Speaker 6: going a little deeper, I think some really high upside

1048
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 6: guys that it's kind of like high risk, high rewards situation.

1049
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 6: Mark Andrews for Baltimore, he averaged two yards per route run.

1050
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 6: Now he still managed to be in about three quarters

1051
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 6: of their pass plays. The word out of camp is

1052
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 6: that he's been featured in the offense. So this team

1053
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 6: is probably only gonna throw twenty five to thirty times

1054
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 6: a game. But if now he can kind of get

1055
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 6: into that space where he's getting like maybe ninety percent

1056
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 6: of their pass plays and he continues to kind of

1057
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 6: sit around that two yards per route. Now, you know

1058
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 6: he was even higher than that for a time with

1059
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson, but just kind of looking at his full

1060
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 6: season numbers, you know that's that's fifty yards a game,

1061
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 6: and that's you're in the top eight conversation already. So

1062
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,800
Speaker 6: I think Mark Andrews has a ton of upside Goddard obviously,

1063
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 6: and of the old injured guys or like if you're

1064
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 6: in a two tight end league, I think my favorite

1065
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 6: is Delanney Walker right now, because you know, he just

1066
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 6: happened to miss one game. I mean, he played one game,

1067
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 6: got an anchor injury out for the season. It's not

1068
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 6: like he had these recurring situations like a Greg Olsen

1069
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 6: or Jordan Reed or Tyler Eifer. You know, he just

1070
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 6: got hurt one year and missed the year and now

1071
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 6: and he's old to kind of looking at him like

1072
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 6: he's done, but in reality, he's Marcus mariota favorite target

1073
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 6: has been for a while now.

1074
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 2: And if you look at their.

1075
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 6: Opening schedule for the Tennessee Titans, yeah they're gonna we

1076
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 6: think of them as this run heavy team, but they're

1077
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 6: going to face Cleveland, Indianapolis, and Atuanta and three of

1078
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 6: their first four games, and then the other game is

1079
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 6: against Jacksonville, and that that's a team where they sometimes

1080
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Speaker 6: can be a tight end funnel because they play good

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Speaker 6: perimeter defense in good deep defense. So I think you

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Speaker 6: have a chance with Walker to have some really productive

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Speaker 6: weeks early on, which is what you want if you're

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Speaker 6: drafting a guy that low, because you're probably going to

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Speaker 6: be at least open to the idea of streaming anyway.

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Speaker 2: So that that's kind of my favorite old guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, Raybond, I'm with you when it comes to

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Speaker 1: Mark Andrews. In fact, in our Fantasy football tools at

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Speaker 1: Action Network, in our cheat sheet, I have him ranked

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Speaker 1: highest out of all of us. I have him as

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Speaker 1: a top tend tight end, which is aggressive. I'm not

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Speaker 1: actually saying you should draft him in the top ten.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think he provides the value at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season of someone who will be

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Speaker 1: finishing in the top ten. So I'm definitely with you there, Chris.

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Speaker 1: It has been fantastic to have you on the show.

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Speaker 1: What content should people check out at Harri's Football?

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Speaker 3: I mean, what shouldn't they check out?

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Speaker 5: Really, if you really just dive into it and think

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Speaker 5: about it, what shouldn't they I mean, if you listen

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Speaker 5: to the podcas if you're looking for a daily podcast,

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Speaker 5: you know it's every day, it's five days a week.

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Speaker 3: And then YouTube.

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Speaker 5: Because because a lot of my shtick, as I hinted

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Speaker 5: when as we were talking today and thank you for

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Speaker 5: having me, I had a really great time, is that

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Speaker 5: I watch all the film and so as the season

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Speaker 5: goes along, I can actually just show you plays that

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Speaker 5: explain why I like that guy's a waiver ad or

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Speaker 5: why I think that guy maybe he is a little overranked.

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Speaker 5: You know, maybe those stats that you're falling in love with,

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Speaker 5: that someone is falling in love with in a given

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Speaker 5: week maybe aren't reflective of what he is as a player.

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Speaker 3: So if you look at Paris Football, on YouTube. That's

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Speaker 3: there as well.

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Speaker 1: Everyone. Be sure to follow Chris on Twitter at Harry's Football.

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Speaker 1: You can follow Sean Raymond in me and the Action

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Speaker 1: Network app at the Underscore Odds Maker. Chris Raymond and

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Speaker 1: Matt F. The Oracle use the app to get real

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Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of the Action

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