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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. Welcome to a Wednesday, April twenty fourth edition

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Speaker 1: of Between the Horns. Miles Simmons across the table from

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Speaker 1: DeMarco far It is just before eleven am Pacific time

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Speaker 1: here in Agorri Hills, California, and the NFL Draft is tomorrow. Defar,

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Speaker 1: are you excited? What are we talking about? Miles? I

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Speaker 1: wasn't listening. Oh, you're so hilarious. References are hot now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: referencing things that happened before the mics are high. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk NFL Draft, which will be this weekend.

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Speaker 1: This will serve as our NFL Draft preview episode of

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Speaker 1: Between the Horns. But I want to start peaked with yeah,

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Speaker 1: for the draft. You hate mock drafts, don't you? I

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Speaker 1: hate that. Why do you hate mock draft I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think I've become more self actualized with them over

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Speaker 1: the last year or two, because I think before it

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Speaker 1: was kind of like, oh, I don't like that everybody

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Speaker 1: just gets paid to be wrong. But now I think

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Speaker 1: of it more as people are just going through different scenarios. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and people have nothing to write about, so they make

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Speaker 1: mock drafts and they flip coins and just throw names anywhere. Yes,

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Speaker 1: they made five of them. Are bs exactly it is.

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Speaker 1: But I think, like I said, if you think of

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Speaker 1: it more as okay, we're going through this certain scenario,

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Speaker 1: right instead of oh boy, well this is what's going

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Speaker 1: to happen. Like you, you don't know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think maybe Arizona knows what they're gonna do. And

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Speaker 1: of course, and I say and I say maybe maybe.

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Speaker 1: And the prime example is number ninety nine. The room

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Speaker 1: was split on him, sure, yeah, I mean some people

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Speaker 1: thought he was too short, the other said he's the

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Speaker 1: best player in the draft. And it came down to

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Speaker 1: the wire. So I wouldn't be shocked if Arizona is

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Speaker 1: still running mock drafts or seeking information from their scouts

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Speaker 1: trying to make trying to make this choice. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that on the number one overall picked, well, well,

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Speaker 1: I think I think Kyler Murray or maybe one of

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Speaker 1: those tackles is it. Quinn Williams is the best player

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Speaker 1: in the draft. But whether or not you want to

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Speaker 1: take him at one is the issue. So I bet

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Speaker 1: they're still going trying to figure out what they're going

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Speaker 1: to do. I don't know, I think I think about

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Speaker 1: you know, when the Rams traded up to number one

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Speaker 1: overall two years ago, three years ago, now it would

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Speaker 1: be in twenty sixteen, right, you didn't do that not

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Speaker 1: knowing you were going to pick Jared Goffe. A little

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Speaker 1: bit different because who were your quarterbacks on the roster

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Speaker 1: at the time. It was a no brainer. You needed golf.

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Speaker 1: You still got Rosen there in Arizona. So I mean

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of moving parts, at least to the top.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just all I'm saying is some teams, some

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Speaker 1: organizations are still trying to figure out exactly what they're

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Speaker 1: going to do. The Raiders, I thought was the funniest

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Speaker 1: reveal ever that John Gruden kicked everybody out of the building. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, to a certain respect. I bet most teams

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Speaker 1: do that with the guys still in the room, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, I mean this will

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Speaker 1: come down to the wire, man. I mean we're at

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Speaker 1: crunch time now, but still you have twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: to figure out what you want to do, exactly what

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Speaker 1: you want to I just I feel like if you

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Speaker 1: have the number one overall pick and you've had it

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Speaker 1: have a guy that is like Kyler Murray, who is

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Speaker 1: somebody that Cliff Kingsbury knows pretty well. You know, it

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Speaker 1: has all these different opinions on they know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: You just say you don't, Oh, we haven't completely decided

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Speaker 1: yet to increase the drama and heighten all the whatever,

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Speaker 1: or because increase the value right that too, and because

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Speaker 1: you know when the Rams, like I said, when the

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Speaker 1: Rams traded up to number one overall, they knew what

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Speaker 1: they were doing. But less Need goes out in the

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Speaker 1: press conference and says, oh, we're still ninety seven percent

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Speaker 1: because you had Carson Wentz there, right. So I mean

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Speaker 1: so it was increasing your drama is what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: right right, but you still didn't know which direction you

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Speaker 1: wanted to go. Was yes, they did. You had a

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Speaker 1: there's so many guys out there. There's so many good players,

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Speaker 1: you know. For for every person that thinks Kyler Murray

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Speaker 1: this guy. This guy is the pick here. Quentin Williams

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Speaker 1: Everybody he has a different opinion. So how would you

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, in order to just be like,

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Speaker 1: all right, this is what we want to do in

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Speaker 1: order to set a direction for the franchise. And I

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Speaker 1: sense in the sense that, Okay, you don't want to

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Speaker 1: So you have probably three ways you're gonna go, and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna make that decision when your time comes. But

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Speaker 1: right now, I mean to say, you've made your choice.

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Speaker 1: Now I would say that's fantasy. Well, I don't think it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it behooves you in any way. Right

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Speaker 1: revealed that you've made that choice. But I think that

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Speaker 1: when you're picking a quarterback Needy right right, when you're

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Speaker 1: any other. Well, this is screwball. You got a team

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Speaker 1: ten that's still on the roster, trade it up to

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Speaker 1: get Rosen. That's a little screwball. This kind of screws

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Speaker 1: up the draft. Excuse me about that? Yeah, go ahead, No, No,

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Speaker 1: This guy could babysit my daughter. This guy here is

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Speaker 1: gonna take us to four Super Bowls, but there might

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Speaker 1: be a character flaw. I'm not I'm worried about taking

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Speaker 1: Well that especially because after you get past that first

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Speaker 1: you don't know who's gonna call the trade up. You

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Speaker 1: don't know who's gonna call it trade down, right, You

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Speaker 1: don't know who is going to make a surprise pick

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Speaker 1: at You know, each different position and everybody's draft board

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Speaker 1: whatever number, Now what happens if that guy's gone, right,

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Speaker 1: If you've already made your choice and set your board,

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Speaker 1: for if this guy gets picked, if somebody trades up

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Speaker 1: Then who's your third? Who's your next guy that's on

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Speaker 1: be fluid until it's not. Well, That's why I've sort

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Speaker 1: a certain amount of scenarios in mock drafts, especially if

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Speaker 1: you're picking at number thirty one overall, right, because you

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Speaker 1: don't know who is and who is not going to

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Speaker 1: to try? What do you do now? Exactly right. So

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that Lessoned sets up with

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Speaker 1: his entire group, and then you utilize the coaches as well,

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Speaker 1: learn more about that. It's more evolved, and once you

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Speaker 1: it's just go with your gut because you're never gonna

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Speaker 1: You're always going to have doubts or positive or whatever.

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Speaker 1: You're going to probably go with your gut. This is

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Speaker 1: the guy I like from the beginning, and who this

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Speaker 1: end of the first round, man, there's some good players.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of people think because less sneed

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Speaker 1: pick in the second round, it would make sense. But

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Speaker 1: at the end of that first round, there's some players

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Speaker 1: that you could draft right now and plug and play

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Speaker 1: and not look back. Some guys that can help you

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Speaker 1: right away. I'd say outside of the top one hundred,

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Speaker 1: you know, most of those guys are ready to play

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Speaker 1: right now. When you look at college football and the

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Speaker 1: guys that enter the draft that top one hundred, those

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Speaker 1: it will just change. So I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: probably not this summer, but next summer. I would have

425
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: to think that that's when those those wheels are really

426
00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,080
Speaker 1: really going to start turning. I'm not sure if it's

427
00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,080
Speaker 1: a legal but I would bet it starts now at

428
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 1: least making phone calls inquiries. Oh no, it is, yeah,

429
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,479
Speaker 1: it is after your third year you're eligible for an extension.

430
00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,240
Speaker 1: So Jared Goff technically is l for an extension at

431
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 1: this moment right now. But I don't think that. I

432
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't say I'm calling if I'm his agent, I wouldn't

433
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: call the negotiate. I would just call to make sure

434
00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:09,639
Speaker 1: that I have your number, you have mine, Yeah, And

435
00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 1: I may do that three or four times a week. Hey,

436
00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,920
Speaker 1: just making sure you have my number. Hey, just checking

437
00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 1: out again, you know, But what's I mean, what's interesting then?

438
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: And we have sort of talked about this in the

439
00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,200
Speaker 1: last few podcasts with a guy like Russell Wilson, Right,

440
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: so now you're paying him thirty five million per and

441
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 1: what did the Seahawks just do this week? Traded Frank

442
00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,680
Speaker 1: Clark exactly. Yeah, traded one of their best defensive players,

443
00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: one of the best in the league, right, because they

444
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 1: didn't want to pay him an extension. That's two times

445
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,679
Speaker 1: in two years. First kil Mac now Frank Clark. Yeah.

446
00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,600
Speaker 1: I mean, if you've got to pay the guy, pay

447
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 1: your quarterback, you're going to start to hemorrhage some talent.

448
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,120
Speaker 1: I think it's obvious, right, And you know, I had

449
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,280
Speaker 1: this discussion with Mike Sando. It's funny, like, can you

450
00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:57,320
Speaker 1: pay a quarterback and field a competitive football team? Sure,

451
00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 1: but you got to hit in the draft, right, You

452
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,639
Speaker 1: can't miss, right period? Right? Yeah. Well, and that's and

453
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 1: that's what I think we get. We get into this

454
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,800
Speaker 1: right where you're saying, okay, can you get a premium

455
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,080
Speaker 1: guy at one thirty one where you have him four

456
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 1: five years? Yeah, just based off yeah yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah,

457
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean I mean one round one. Sorry that that

458
00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 1: was on me. Yeah, but can you get that guy

459
00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: there that will help your franchise for the next five

460
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: years at a reasonable contract rate. That's very important because

461
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: eventually you got to pay the QB. You've already paid

462
00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,160
Speaker 1: your star defensive tackle, You've already paid your running back,

463
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 1: You've already paid a wide receiver in Brandon Cooks. You've

464
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: already paid your right tackle too. So that's something you know.

465
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: The rams are set up well. But again, like you said,

466
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: you have to hit. You have to make sure you're

467
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,160
Speaker 1: building your program well. Sony Michelle was thirty one last year,

468
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:54,719
Speaker 1: good player until you got hurt, right, Reuben Foster was there, Um,

469
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 1: I think that was more of a luck pick, and

470
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 1: it turned out to be a disaster for the forty

471
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Speaker 1: nine ers. Who tim Let's see who's else is in there?

472
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Speaker 1: That's oh, Bradley Roby is a guy that that's at

473
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Speaker 1: thirty one. I mean, so you know, if these guys

474
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Speaker 1: are basically top fifteen guys that the draft or how

475
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: the top ten of the draft kind of screwed their

476
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 1: board up. If they're top fifteen, top twenty guys staring

477
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: at you at number thirty one. I think you have

478
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Speaker 1: to make that pick, especially if it's along the offense

479
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,159
Speaker 1: and defensive lines, which it probably will be. You know,

480
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: I mean rather than having three or four project guys.

481
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 1: You know, if you trade the pick, I'd rather have

482
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: that one guy that I either can groom for the

483
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 1: future or plug in and play right now. Do you

484
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: have any names of guys that you think really fit there?

485
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: You know it? Like I said, it depends on what

486
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: Arizona does at one. You know, if the Raiders jump

487
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 1: up there and take Kyler Murray, that just changes everybody's board.

488
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: Then you've got to worry about the kid from Ohio

489
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,320
Speaker 1: State Haskins. I think he's going to be a star.

490
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 1: Have you seen that guy down film? He's tremendously Yeah,

491
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,119
Speaker 1: he's a guy I wouldn't be afraid to try it

492
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: out in front of the press. Okay, there are some

493
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,479
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you take that are great, but you might have

494
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: to plant a pr guy next to him when he's

495
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 1: talking to the media. This is different. This is a

496
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 1: true drop back leader, been born to do it type. Guy.

497
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: Whoever passes on him is making a mistake, especially if

498
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,719
Speaker 1: your quarterback needie. But we'll see It just depends on

499
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 1: where these quarterbacks go and when they come off the board.

500
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: So I think I bet an no tackle is going

501
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Speaker 1: to be there at thirty one. I guess that's a

502
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: long way of saying it. Yes, yeah, yeah, I think

503
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: you know a couple of names that I have seen,

504
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: at least on the mock draft circuit. Yeah, Garrett Bradberry,

505
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: who's a center from North Carolina State, and you know,

506
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: you look at Pro Football Focus and they say he's

507
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,920
Speaker 1: the best zone blocking center in the draft. And I

508
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: read a film breakdown from the Espionation Stephen White that

509
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: was actually really good about how you know, Garrett Bradberry

510
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: can really get out there on the edges and secure

511
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: to cut people off, and also he pass walks pretty well. Um,

512
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: but I think available last year. Probably take that guy

513
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: you've got Brian Allen, Right, Yeah, I think I don't

514
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: say I I don't want to say you're set at center, Um,

515
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: but you're set at center. You should be. You think

516
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 1: you all you have two you have a you have

517
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: two guys that can play center and they're both young. Yeah,

518
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: one started at right guard and one was on the

519
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: bench watching Sali play. And it's probably going to play

520
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,680
Speaker 1: right now, I think you need tackle help. Okay, yeah,

521
00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: outside of Wit and Havenstein, who's next nopeoom, but he's

522
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: playing left. He's gonna play guard, right, I think you

523
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: need another tack right. So from that standpoint, then you

524
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,440
Speaker 1: have another guy that I whose name that keeps coming

525
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: up and Draymont Jones out of Ohio State, and he

526
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: is a Cleveland native. Went to Sating Natius, which is

527
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: not a called high school that I went to, but

528
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: it is a really big um it's a big time

529
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: high school football program in Cleveland. And so he's done

530
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: really good things at Ohio State. He's somebody that could

531
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: line up on the defensive line help you replace. It's

532
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 1: not the one that's paying kids, right or is that

533
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,560
Speaker 1: the other school Sating Natius. Yeah, there was one school

534
00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,479
Speaker 1: that that teams refused to play in Baltimore because it

535
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: was loaded with D one guys. Yeah some school. Yeah,

536
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: I guess it's not them. Yeah, but when we're on

537
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: BOLI last year. It was going on last year. I

538
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,120
Speaker 1: think one of the coaches was at training camp when

539
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: we were there. Really, yeah, this team is like they

540
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: would recruit kids from all over and they were just

541
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 1: full of d one kids. That's hilarious. Yeah, in a

542
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,479
Speaker 1: private school league, and it's like this is unfair, so

543
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: some schools refuse to play him. It's funny, say yeah,

544
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 1: well so lindsay theory of ESPN's NFL Nation covers the Rams.

545
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: Sheep picked Boston College interior lineman Chris Lindstrom in the

546
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: NFL es excuse me, the ESPN NFL Nation mock draft

547
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: that they did yesterday. It's another guy you continue to

548
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: see in mocks. I think what's interesting to Marco is

549
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't necessarily see the Rams

550
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,239
Speaker 1: offensive line as we do because we're here, you know.

551
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: So you see Sully's gone, you see that Joe note

552
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 1: Boom is in. You see that Roger Saffold is gone,

553
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,920
Speaker 1: you see that Brian Allen. This kind of like, yeah,

554
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 1: those is where I don't listen to anybody, right, So

555
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: that's why I think you see probably what you see

556
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: on the mock drafts right when it looks like that, well,

557
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: just some of the guys at the bottom um bottom

558
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: of the first round. I hate to say the bottom

559
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 1: of the first round. I mean it's really the top

560
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 1: of everything else. No offense. The other Iowa tight end,

561
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: the one that ran the four or five could actually

562
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: be there at thirty one. I'm just saying no, I

563
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: think that tight end is a position that the Rams

564
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 1: probably will address just say this draft, especially if it's

565
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: a premium playmaker. The second best tight end in the

566
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 1: draft maybe staring at you at thirty one. They could

567
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: go in the top fifteen. Which is why when you

568
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,360
Speaker 1: ask me who's at the bottom of thirty one, who knows?

569
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: It just depends on where everybody else goes. Greg Little

570
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: is the guy that I had seen that I liked.

571
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: He's an old tackle from old miss There's a guy

572
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: that you can plug in and just say learned from

573
00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: when you know what I'm saying. But that's all speculation.

574
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: We don't know. But these are the bottom of the

575
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: first round type guys that could be there depending on

576
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: how the top ten goes. So here's another name that

577
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: I continue to see at the bottom of the first round.

578
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:13,120
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons, the defensive tackle out of Mississippi State who

579
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: tours ACL in February while preparing for the draft. No more,

580
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: No more, No more guys, No no more torn al So,

581
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 1: because that's what the question is to me. Right, Like,

582
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: do you pick somebody at the end of the first

583
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: round so you get that fifth year with him, knowing

584
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: that this is a guy that's top ten talent, perhaps

585
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: that you can you know what, you just say, all right,

586
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 1: you got a red shirt year, but the next year

587
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: comes back and you're pairing with Aaron Donald on the

588
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: defensive line. This is That's what a lot, excuse me,

589
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: a lot of analysts have put out there kind of

590
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: for the reason of, all right, you know you got

591
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: a team that's not afraid of drafting a guy that's

592
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: coming off in a cl Did it with Todd Gurley? Well,

593
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: here's the question, if you had it all over to

594
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: do again with Todd, would you do it? Top ten guy?

595
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: Of course? Heartbeat right, yes, heartbeat yes. And as uncertain

596
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: as everything is right now, you're looking at his first

597
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: four years, four to five years of production. We're kind

598
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 1: of uncertain now, depending seeing how how this last season ended. Yes,

599
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: I think that's a fair statement to me. Right, So

600
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: would you do it again if you're guaranteed to get

601
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: a superstar for four years and then move into uncertainty?

602
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 1: Uncertainty island, uncertain island. I it's a rough one. Right. Well,

603
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: I think that's an interesting question because I think at

604
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: this point the Rams are still counting on him to

605
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 1: be a very highly productive play right here, as you

606
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: and I are, but we're just uncertain they're paying him

607
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: right to be that, right, So you know, that's an

608
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: interesting question. Yeah, it's It's kind of rough, isn't it.

609
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what I mean. I think. Well,

610
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: and the other thing is, I think coming if you're

611
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: coming out of college and you've already got the torn

612
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: acl I might be a little hesitant, you know, especially

613
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: at a position where I need you to play right away.

614
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: That's that's number one. Yeah, exactly. So I think the

615
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: difference right now is a this franchise is in a

616
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: very different spot than it was in twenty fifteen, right

617
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 1: when it picked Todd Gurley at number ten. Overall, right, No,

618
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: this is a super Bowl contending team. This team has

619
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: championship aspirations that are realistic. Everybody as championship aspirations. But

620
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: if you had asked me and the beginning of twenty fifteen,

621
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: at that draft, do I think that this is a

622
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: team that can make the Super Bowl, the answer would

623
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: have been no. Yes, So you know, Now, I think

624
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,560
Speaker 1: as a franchise you want to get if you're gonna

625
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: get somebody at one in the first round, at thirty

626
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: one overall, then you kind of need that person to

627
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: contribute right away at least or at least be in

628
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: position step in if yes, if needed. I think I

629
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160
Speaker 1: think note Boom was that guy. I think Alan was

630
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: that guy. Yes, you know, so if you can do it,

631
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, beyond the first round, you can darn sure

632
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 1: do it with a first rounder. You know, stay at

633
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: the ready, you know, just in case. But it's wits job. Now,

634
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 1: that's like baseball. You're blocked at shortstop. It's his job.

635
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: But stay ready, you know what I mean. Yes, yeah,

636
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: there's just no minor league system. But you know, like

637
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: I said, I mean, if you've got if what you're

638
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: looking at is outside of the tight end, let's just

639
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: forget that for a second. But you know, one of

640
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: the interior guys, interior defensive tackles that fell, you might

641
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: want to take a look. You might not want to,

642
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 1: you know, a trade back. If you've got an offensive

643
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: lineman and offensive tackle, the third or fourth guy on

644
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 1: the board sitting there, I think that's a no brainer

645
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 1: for this football team, especially when you're considering you're about

646
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 1: to pay your quarterback a lot of money, you might

647
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 1: want to think about protection into the future at the

648
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: same time. No, that's what I mean, and that's I

649
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: think that would be the more prudent or the practical

650
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: way to go right. Well, And the thing about that is,

651
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: I mean, ay, if you want to look at the

652
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: tackle spot, right, I think you have a little bit

653
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: of flexibility in terms of where you could go on

654
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line, whether it be interior lineman or then

655
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: tackle because of Joe Nope, Boom's versatility, right, that's the

656
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: guy that you I mean, you picked him last year

657
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 1: in order to become the air apparent at left tackle already,

658
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 1: so in some ways you have That's interesting. You have

659
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: that flexibility, right, if there's a tackle that you really like,

660
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 1: all right, Boom, that's the guy that we want. Or

661
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: if there's a guard you really like exactly, you can

662
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: slide him back out to left tackle exactly and not

663
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: miss a beat. Yeah. But if if your best guy

664
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: is a guard, if you don't like the tackle at

665
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: thirty one and you target this guard later, that's when

666
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: you trade back. I can get this guy later. If

667
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: he's going to be for the future. So I mean,

668
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: like I said, just like I said, no one's decided

669
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do just yet. Yeah, I think no

670
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: one's decided pass number one over right. That that would

671
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: be the learned from Vermil. If if if if you

672
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 1: go into the draft with a gotta have guy, you

673
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: fail unless you have the number one overall pick. Yeah,

674
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,560
Speaker 1: even with that, if it's a gotta have I gotta

675
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: have this guy, hold on usually comes out bad. No,

676
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,239
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, no, Are you gonna tell me that

677
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: Dick Vermil didn't classify Orlando Pace as a gotta have guy.

678
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: I think that was more of a no brainer. Yeah,

679
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: maybe he was, maybe he was looking past Orlando, but

680
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, because you trade, because I mean, there

681
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: was no doubt it was. Well, that's what I'm saying, Emil,

682
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 1: trade it up to number one overall, Yeah, to get

683
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Orlando Pace and boom. He was the franchise left tackle

684
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: that becomes a Hall of Famer. But I think the

685
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: way he couched it, I think at the time we

686
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: actually had a first round guy playing left tackle. Okay,

687
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't, I don't, I'll be yea quite honest. I

688
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: don't know the history. I mean I was like, like,

689
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 1: like Pace, no matter who you had at left tackle,

690
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: you're still taking Pace number one. Sure, so there's no

691
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: gotta have that's just obvious. But if you trade no, No,

692
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 1: but if you trade up to get him, that's a

693
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: gotta have guy, true to me, Right, I think you

694
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: could say this. You can make the same argument for

695
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: the Rams trading up to get Jared Goff. You classified

696
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: him as a gotta have guy and you made sure

697
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: that you had that you could have him, well one

698
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks. It was a no brainer. And your

699
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: quarterback needy you know. Yeah, okay, fair enough, it makes sense.

700
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: It's weird, okay, yeah, well, but it's like remember, I mean,

701
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: remember when we were having the argument last year about

702
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: the Browns and Saquon Barkley. Yeah, and that's all right.

703
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: You can continue to think I'm wrong, but I know

704
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a rookie of the Year man. You don't

705
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: think that would help Cleveland. You don't think they needed

706
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback. True, but Barkley was rookie of the Year

707
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: on a bad football team. I think he's better than

708
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: you think. Baker Mayfield led the Browns to a five

709
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: and two record to end the season, and they were

710
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: seven eight and one, like miss the playoffs? Yes, and

711
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. But what did the Giants do? I

712
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: just said, the Giants were a bad football team, really bad.

713
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: But this guy was Rookie of the year. Even shouldn't

714
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 1: have been Rookie of the Year, Baker Mayfield should have been.

715
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,760
Speaker 1: Now you're changing listen. I know I'm kind of changing

716
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: the goalposts here, but he said a rookie, he said,

717
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: a rookie record for throwing touch ends. It didn't even

718
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: play in the leagues of the year, right, Okay, So

719
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: now it's Canadian football. You just widen the field. I'm

720
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,799
Speaker 1: just saying. I mean, look, wow, if you don't have

721
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: your quarterback, you're nothing. Where are they? What are the

722
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 1: Giants trying to do right now? Trying to find a quarterback?

723
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: I said it was a bad football team. So what

724
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: is this guy gonna do on a good football team

725
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: or a pretty good football team? Well? Here the year

726
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: you might never know because you know they don't have

727
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Wow, because Eli Manning is fifteen years in

728
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: and Dave Gentelman is still talking about him like he's

729
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: in year seven or eight. I'm with you, bad football team,

730
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 1: great player, okay, but he's a running back, so okay,

731
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: and we can have this same discussion about a running

732
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: back led you to the super Bowl, right, or at

733
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: least got it started here. But who else do you have?

734
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: You've you've got weapons, guaranteed, you've got weapons. Now I'm

735
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: not talking about weapons. I'm talking about the quarterback you've got.

736
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: You had the QB, So you drafted Todd Gurley at

737
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 1: ten overall the year before when you thought you might

738
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: have something in nick fools, you didn't. Then you go

739
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: out and you draft a QB number one overall. Then

740
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: you get a guy who can actually coach offense, and oh,

741
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: by the way, then that's when you get to the

742
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: play where you can get to the playoffs and then

743
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Case Kingdom was knocking on the

744
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 1: doorstep a couple of years ago with Minnesota with a

745
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: really good team and an average quarterback, a pretty good

746
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: running game, it can't happen. I'm all I'm saying is

747
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: they should never have won. You don't pass up they

748
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: should never have won that game where you don't pass

749
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 1: up stud like Barkley because he's oh, he's just a

750
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 1: running back. Okay, now, the guys watching, now what exactly? Yeah?

751
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: Now what Now? The Giants as drafting at six and seventeen,

752
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: and at one of those places, they probably have to

753
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback, even if they're still not a good

754
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 1: football If you took a quarterback in New York or

755
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: they would still stink they were a bad football team.

756
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,760
Speaker 1: If you take a quarterback, you're at least setting yourself

757
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: up to be better. Down is not going to be

758
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: good after year one. I'm not saying that he's a

759
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: bad football player. I'm saying that you need a good

760
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: QB in order to take your offense over the top.

761
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: You need at least a serviceable quarterback in order to

762
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: take your offense to where it needs to go. Now,

763
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: the other thing about New York Giants right now is

764
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: that they just got rid of arguably the best wide

765
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: receiver in the league. Right Okay, So how does that

766
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: Julio Jones played for the Giants. I said arguably career.

767
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 1: That's literally why I said arguably, because to me, you know,

768
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 1: you've got Beckham Junior, you've got a social media champion

769
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: of the world, O goodness, and Julio Jones. You had Okay,

770
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: so those are the three of the junior in New York.

771
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: Did you hear about him last year? No? Why? Bad

772
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: football team? And the guy still run Rookie of the Year.

773
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: You're like, there're still I feel like your brain is

774
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: just like revolving around the fact that QB is the

775
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: missing link. He No, QB's are great, you need one

776
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: if you If you don't have one, you need one

777
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: boom right, all right. So you're at the top of

778
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: the draft and you're the Cleveland Browns and you haven't

779
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: had a decent quarterback since Vinny Testaverdy in the mid

780
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: nineties when I was two way to be years old.

781
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: Are you about to sit here and tell me you

782
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: were sold on Baker Mayfield? No, oh, thank you. So

783
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: you think they reached and he played better than you thought,

784
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: but I don't. So don't say like, oh, the quarterback

785
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: is the thing because Baker Mayfield panned out. Give me

786
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: a break. No, no, no, no no, no, whoa whoa. The

787
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: point that I'm trying to reach here is if you

788
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: don't have a QB, you need one, and you need

789
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: a QB more than you need a running back because

790
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: then they got Nick Chubb and look at what Nick

791
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: Chubb was able to do. All right, So I just

792
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: love it that people can't eat crow with Skuon Barkley.

793
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm not eating any crow with Sakuwon Barkley because I

794
00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: was right. Why would I eat crow? I'm some thing

795
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 1: that I was right about. Well, you don't take a

796
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: running back that high. He just won. No, no, no,

797
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: But I guess it doesn't matter. I guess it doesn't

798
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: matter if he's any good. You just don't take a

799
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: running back. You don't take a running back that high.

800
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,240
Speaker 1: If you don't if you need a quarterback as well.

801
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: You know, if you're the Browns, what good would it

802
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: have done you to take Sequon Barkley and not take

803
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: a quarterback? Who are you going to play a QB?

804
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 1: Deshan Kaiser? Okay, but even when you took the quarterback

805
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: the playoffs, not the first year, but quarterbacks. So you're

806
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: right back in the draft this year for one of

807
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. You could get Kyler Murray. Who knows, That's

808
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. They can't get Kyler Murray because they're

809
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: not sick genius is like most people. I'm not gonna

810
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: point it, you would pass up that guy. Because you

811
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: need a quarterback. Yes, you pass up a generational type

812
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: running back because you need a quarterback, yes, and try

813
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: to force it not. Did they don't just go because

814
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: he's shaking his head? Yes? No, this is my opinion. Okay,

815
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: this is my opinion. And I believe that I was

816
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: right because the Browns are now on track to become

817
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: a playoff team in year two with Baker Mayfield, who

818
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: was able to get on the field to win games,

819
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: and now they've given him more weapons. But you have

820
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: to have a QB in order to sec October. I

821
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: can't wait until week three. This is gonna be fun.

822
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: Don't back off this intention. Why would I ever? Don't

823
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: back off the intention? Really? Don't the kids say, keep

824
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: that same energy now, I don't care what they say.

825
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Don't lose the intensity. Okay, I did not expect to

826
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: have a keated argument about Baker Mayfield. That's just interestingly,

827
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you guys would pass up great players

828
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: because of need, because of the church. The church says,

829
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: go get a quarterback, but you got you got somebody

830
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: who's on track to be a great quarterback. So I

831
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 1: don't understand, like look, don't say it like it was

832
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: like it was a no brainer. It may no no, no

833
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: no no. But it's not about me be It's not

834
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 1: about me having it be a no brainer. And when

835
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: I told you this last year, I said, if you

836
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: really want both Baker Mayfield and Sequon Barkley, you have

837
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: the number one overall pickout the number four overall pick,

838
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: trade up to number two, take them both, right. But

839
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: instead the Browns got Baker Mayfield and they got Denzel

840
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: Ward and they've set themselves up both on offense and

841
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 1: defense to be good for a number of years here.

842
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,399
Speaker 1: So you don't think New York is set up, No,

843
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: I do not. How are they set up that an

844
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: have a QB? Well, when you do finally get a quarterback,

845
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: just like Cleveland, when you do finally get a quarterback,

846
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: and then you and you'll be set up with those

847
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: two guys in the backfield. So it's six and one

848
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: half dozen in the other I don't think it is.

849
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: You're still searching New York quarterback. So if New York

850
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: gets if New York gets a quarterback this year, yeah,

851
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: and they go from year one the year two with

852
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: that quarterback and he grows. You think Barkley's just gonna

853
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,359
Speaker 1: fall off the cliff. Oh, I think that shouldn't make

854
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: Barkley even better, So you'd be set up. Both teams

855
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs. Yes, so you're saying Cleveland's just a

856
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: bit ahead of New York because they have a quarterback. Yes,

857
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I'm saying. Okay, let's let's find out

858
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: who New York gets before we go any further. Okay,

859
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: go ahead, go ahead, all right, interesting fantasy football. Okay, yeah,

860
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: huge accident is the reason that they didn't make the playoffs,

861
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: as our producer Glenn just said. And who was in

862
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: New York, Pat Shermer. It's another form before him, Ben McAdoo. Okay,

863
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: remember that team they fielded in London thirty three and

864
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: it scored Hey, genius, that was that was not the

865
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: London game? That was after What game? Was that third

866
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 1: and thirty three bet Bat football team? Anyway? Yeah, it

867
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 1: was all a blur. But go ahead. The one that

868
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,360
Speaker 1: we saw in New York beat the Rams in London

869
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: was that No, was that Arizona. That was Arizona. It

870
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: was Arizona in Arizona, yes, oh okay. And then there

871
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 1: was a bye week and then the fifty two. You

872
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,800
Speaker 1: know that was the first class butt kicking. Adrian Peterson

873
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: was starting that day and been nothing. Yes, yeah, yeah, right,

874
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: But you're not I mean, you're not entirely wrong. The

875
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 1: Rams did play the Giants in London in twenty sixteen,

876
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 1: but they won that game thirteen to ten. Anyway, where

877
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: are we going now? We're going to positions that I

878
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 1: think the Rams probably need to build depth at in

879
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,840
Speaker 1: this draft class. Okay, so if I and I wrote

880
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 1: this down, so if I'm saying like the Rams have

881
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 1: seven picks right now, right and if I picks places

882
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: that I think they've got to make picks offensive line,

883
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: defensive line, just to build depth there because you don't

884
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: have it as much as you did last year based

885
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: on the way things have happened. Linebacker, especially because right

886
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: now you've basically got three guys on the interior for

887
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: your linebacker and Corey Littleton, Micah Keiser and Travan Howard UM.

888
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: So that's something that you have got to really think about. UM.

889
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 1: And then also I would say safety corner, just thinking

890
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: about the age and the contract situation, they're probably need

891
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 1: to build depth there. Running back, you should probably always

892
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: take a flyer on one in quarterback, especially because you

893
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: got Blake Bortles in a one year deal. Well, what's

894
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: your my philosophy look is, And it's kind of like

895
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: what Belichick does. I'm about the line of scrimmage before

896
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: I move backwards. So until I solidify that, until I

897
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: have enough guys there, I'm not looking beyond, you know

898
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: what I mean. So if I see an offensive tackle,

899
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: offensive guard that I could say for now and for

900
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: the future, I'm taking him. If there's defensive line help

901
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: out there, especially in terior, I'm taking him. And I'm

902
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: trying to remember when did the Rams sign Sue last year?

903
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: What month was that it was? A was April? Was

904
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,280
Speaker 1: early April? Early April. So the chances of finding another

905
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: free agent that's worth anything, because if he was, he'd

906
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: probably be signed already or slim. So you're looking at

907
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: draft now and what you have on the roster. But

908
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: if you're going to play young guys up front, you

909
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: might as well add another another couple along the defensive line.

910
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: If you're gonna depend on Sebastian Joseph Day and Franklin Myers,

911
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:05,959
Speaker 1: you might as well add more young guys to that mix.

912
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: I agree, with that, and you know what, I can't

913
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: find a stud, I'll just hit you in waves, right, Yeah, exactly.

914
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: And that's kind of why I think the Rams might

915
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: trade back, right, so that you have the ability in

916
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: what is considered a very deep defensive line draft class

917
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: to then go into maybe the second round pick up

918
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 1: a guy. Maybe you get another third round pick in

919
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 1: that as well, and that allows you to get you know,

920
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: this is kind of a crass comparison, but like you're

921
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: kind of throwing darts, you know, and you want the

922
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: dart to stick on the wall, right and see where

923
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: you can hit, right? And I mean, like where where

924
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: am I going to stack that depth? Am I going

925
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: to stack that depth behind Michael Brockers? So? Am I

926
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: drafting a five technique? Am I drafting size not necessarily skill?

927
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: Or am I drafting another Aaron Donald type? You know

928
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,080
Speaker 1: what I mean? Another pass Russian interior defensive lineman. Do

929
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,799
Speaker 1: I covet that may not be as big? But dan

930
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: does he get to the quarterback? You know? Do you? Right? Now?

931
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: How do you sit at outside linebacker guys that actually

932
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: rushed the past that that was the next place that

933
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: I was going to go. I mean, I don't necessarily

934
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: know that that's as much of a need this year. Yeah,

935
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: but you know, think about what the rams are with

936
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: the offensive line last year, there wasn't necessarily a need immediately.

937
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 1: But Clay Matthews is getting up there. Dante Valler, you

938
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: only have him on a one year deal, so you know,

939
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: you have guys like Obo Okaron Quo behind him. You

940
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: have guys like Samson Abacomb, But can those guys really

941
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: step up and make plays? Also a guy that we

942
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: really haven't talked much about, Morgan Fox. Yeah, he come

943
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: back from injury and be effective because he was in

944
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: line to be a starter last year. Him. I like

945
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: him a lot. Good dude, good dude, good player and

946
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 1: does everything you tell him to do. Yeah, and all

947
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,439
Speaker 1: he does is make plays, right. Yeah, he always shows

948
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: up where the ball is and that's that's the stuff

949
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: you can't coach. But if there's an edge guy, an

950
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: outside backer, that's there, one of those dare I say,

951
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: giraffe types, tall, thin, lean, not very big, but god

952
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: can he fly around the edge. Okay. You know, even

953
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: though I feel pretty comfortable with my two guys or

954
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: three guys, I'm going to trot out for you know, September,

955
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: I might want to add one more, you know, that

956
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 1: can push for depth towards the end of the year

957
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: or maybe early who knows right exactly. So those those

958
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 1: are a couple of places. I think at quarterback, because

959
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: you have somebody like Jared Goff who's going to be

960
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: the guy for the future, you're pretty set there. I mean,

961
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,960
Speaker 1: Kevin Dumoff made the joke yesterday like, yeah, we're probably

962
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 1: not taking a QB at thirty one overall, that's kind

963
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: of obvious. But I think it later in those later rounds,

964
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: right where you're maybe round five, round four, even you

965
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: want to take a flyer on somebody, especially if you

966
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: can pick up one of those extra picks. That's a

967
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 1: place where it can maybe happen because you then develop

968
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: that guy and then who knows what happens. You know,

969
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: if he has to play at some point, then you

970
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: know you've developed him. People see that he can do it,

971
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: and then you get to flip that guy again in

972
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 1: for a decent pick, you know, I mean, just looking around,

973
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, there's gonna

974
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: be some surprises and it would not shock me, like

975
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: you said earlier, if they wind up bolstering, like we're

976
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: thinking defense. Everybody is thinking defense, right, you need defensive help.

977
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they added to the offense. Yeah,

978
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: that's why you. I think that's why you brought up

979
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: no offense. And especially at thirty one, there is there

980
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: is a I guess what do you call that? Um uh,

981
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: there's great indication you could trade back to split that

982
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: pick up. But if one of these guys falls, one

983
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: of these offensive players, and it could be and it

984
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: could be a running back. Since we're talking about running

985
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: backs and arguing about running backs, if there is a

986
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 1: running back, one of the second best guy on the

987
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: board is still there at thirty one, you know, maybe

988
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: maybe pull there you could Who knows, That's what I'm saying.

989
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:58,439
Speaker 1: Who knows absolutely? Who knows? Right right? Right? Um? One

990
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: trade scenario though there I did see this week that

991
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: I think is probably a bit realistic. Is was from

992
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: Peter King NBC Sports Now is Football Morning in America column.

993
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 1: He had his sort of annual mock draft and he

994
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: always says, you know, this is based on what I'm

995
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: hearing in Dada, da da, But he said, you know,

996
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: I think the Rams probably don't necessarily want to pick here.

997
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: They probably want to trade back at a couple of picks,

998
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: And he said, Denver, wouldn't that maybe be the team

999
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: that comes back up into the first round to pick

1000
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback like a Drew Lock. So that was the

1001
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 1: pick that he put in his mind. And Elway put

1002
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: it out that he loves Locke right a long time ago. Yeah,

1003
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,720
Speaker 1: he's he's been in love with Locke for a long time.

1004
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: There might be business there, right, Yeah, it could be business, yes,

1005
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 1: as long as you get the guys that you want

1006
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: later in the draft, right right, right? Wow? But I

1007
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: mean then that those are the things you have to weigh, right,

1008
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, does this group of guys have a chance

1009
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 1: to fall back to where we would then be picking

1010
00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 1: so that we can still get one of these players

1011
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: that we really really like, right And that's the difference,

1012
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 1: honestly in picking in the first round. The Rams, since

1013
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: they've been at this facility that they now have at

1014
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: Cal Lutheran, they've not picked in the first round. And

1015
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate enough to sit in the draft room

1016
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: and over the last couple of years, and we'll do

1017
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 1: so again this year. And it's been really interesting just

1018
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: kind of being there on the first night and you

1019
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: kind of see everybody just kind of like watching and

1020
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: waiting and watching and waiting. You go out, you get

1021
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: some food, you come back in. Nothing's really happening, right,

1022
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: And this year it's going to be different because you

1023
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 1: have that pick there. So by the end, you know,

1024
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: coming into like seven thirty eight o'clock on Thursday night

1025
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: tomorrow night, that it's going to be interesting. There's a

1026
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: better than average chance that less Need will deal five

1027
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: of eight drafts. He's dealt out of the first round

1028
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: of delt move picks around so and he's been I

1029
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: think he's hit on. I think he's hit on at

1030
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: least half of those moves. Right. Tavon worked for a

1031
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: wild did not work, you know what I mean, now gone.

1032
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean there's a good chance that you

1033
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: won't have a first rounder this year as well. The

1034
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: one thing I think people sometimes forget is that the

1035
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 1: Rams have picked at the end of the first round

1036
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 1: and the less Need era, and that was with alec Ogletree.

1037
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,360
Speaker 1: You know, he was thirty overall back in twenty thirteen.

1038
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: Forget about that, Yeah, exactly, And so that that's a

1039
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: clear pick that worked out very well. True. You know,

1040
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 1: that's the funny thing. I mean, even if the first

1041
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,479
Speaker 1: rounders aren't here, most of those guys are still playing.

1042
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: They're just not here, right Yeah. So I mean they're

1043
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: good players there. I mean, even Greg Robinson wound up

1044
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: playing and finding his niche somewhere, you know what I mean.

1045
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: He is still playing. He's still in the league. So

1046
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean there's there's good players. Um, and sometimes the

1047
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: business of football dictates that they're not here anymore. But

1048
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: for the most part, I think he's done a great

1049
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: job picking at the top of the drag, right, Yeah.

1050
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: I mean you look at it. Brockers. Back in twenty twelve,

1051
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 1: Oh you remember that. Do you remember how many people

1052
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: were just steamed when that pick was made? No, I

1053
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: was still in college. Oh you weren't. Oh god, everybody

1054
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: wanted Sammy Watkins. Sammy Watkins was no, no, no, who

1055
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: was There was a receiver on the draft? Was it

1056
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: Justin Blackman? Back then? It must have been Blackman? Was

1057
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: it Blackman? Everybody wanted Justin Blackman? That's right, everybody wanted

1058
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 1: the receiver. You gotta have a receiver. Yeah, you gotta

1059
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: have a receiver to be great well, and that we

1060
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: both agree, So we're not going to get into another

1061
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Squon Barkley argument. No, um, but yeah, I mean you

1062
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: can look at it from that point, right. You know

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00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: you got in twelve, you had Brockers, thirteen Ogletree and

1064
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: then also tab On Austin, And yes, you know you

1065
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: can say that Taban Austin didn't quite work out, and

1066
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 1: he definitely didn't, and I think that that's a fair

1067
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: thing to say. I think you got everything out of

1068
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:41,680
Speaker 1: him that you could, yes, yeah, yes, and then traded

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00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: him to Dallas during the draft last year. But then fourteen,

1070
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: you know you had Greg Robinson, who again didn't work

1071
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:51,160
Speaker 1: out for this particular team. I would say that you

1072
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: got everything out of him that you could. I think

1073
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: you could have gotten more, really, yeah, I think you could.

1074
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 1: If well, okay, if he's still playing now, you could

1075
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 1: have gotten more maybe. But the one thing that I

1076
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: think probably did not help Greg Robinson in his career

1077
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: was that Jake Thomas was that his name left tackle?

1078
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: Joe No, no, no, no no, no, Jake Jake Long Long,

1079
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: Jake Long, Yeah, Chris's brother. And I'm just kidding, Yes, yeah,

1080
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: Chris's brother. That wasn't his brother if he hadn't gotten

1081
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: hurt in fourteen, and then that forced Greg Robinson to

1082
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: move over there, probably before he was ready because he

1083
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: was playing at guard. Maybe if he plays there for

1084
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: a little bit longer, he gets acclimated to the league

1085
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,240
Speaker 1: a little bit better, things would have worked out. Definitely. Yeah.

1086
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 1: I think you tried everything you could with him, Yes,

1087
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,799
Speaker 1: but you could have gotten more out perhaps. But then,

1088
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,319
Speaker 1: of course Aaron Donald also, you know, one of the

1089
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 1: greatest defensive players to probably ever play the game. You

1090
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: got him at thirteen overall in the first round. The

1091
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: only thing, the only knock on his career or just

1092
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: makes you scratch your head, is the guy's been like

1093
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,800
Speaker 1: this from day one. What took him so long to start,

1094
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 1: Greg Williams, or what took you so long to start?

1095
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,880
Speaker 1: Ask Greg Williams that right? What wasn't he doing right?

1096
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: Greg Williams basically said, you're a rookie, you're not starting

1097
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: like That's all it was. And I think he's hot

1098
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 1: for quinnin Williams, the guy in the draft they say

1099
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: the next Aeron Donnel, he's hot for him. A New

1100
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: York right now, I read something today on Twitter that

1101
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,439
Speaker 1: was like, oh at Oliver was when on his visit

1102
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: with the Jets he was watching Aaron Donald film with

1103
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 1: Greg Williams. Yes, yeah, I mean, everybody's on the lookout

1104
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 1: for the next him. Yeah yeah, good luck, good luck

1105
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 1: with that. But then you had Todd Gurley number ten

1106
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,800
Speaker 1: overall in the first round in fifteen, Jared Goff obviously

1107
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,880
Speaker 1: number one overall in twenty sixteen. So those are the

1108
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: first round picks in the sneat era. We have not

1109
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: seen one clearly since then. You could maybe count Brandon

1110
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: Cooks as one since they traded that pick. True, that

1111
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: was funny last year in the draft room watching Brandon

1112
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: Cooks highlights when the pick came on at number twenty three.

1113
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: That was funny watching highlights. Yeah, Brandon Cooks, Yeah, because

1114
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,280
Speaker 1: it was their number one. Oh yeah yeah, good player.

1115
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:56,520
Speaker 1: Well yeah yeah, So that would be the draft history.

1116
00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: So we will finally kind of get to see this

1117
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,560
Speaker 1: all unfolds over the course of the next three days. Oh,

1118
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: let's just get it over with. That's the way I

1119
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,759
Speaker 1: feel about. Yeah, let's get it over with. Let's know

1120
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: who you have and let's get them lined up and

1121
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 1: let's start playing any parting shots. No. After after a

1122
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:19,359
Speaker 1: staycon Barkley Baker discussion that we could probably continue off

1123
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: the air. I wonder if that was like good radio

1124
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: or not. No. I just love when people I knew

1125
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield was going to be great. I really don't

1126
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: need to know if the quarterback is going to be great.

1127
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 1: It's on my job to know. It's the town evaluator

1128
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: job to know John Dorsey was right and that it's

1129
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 1: his job to be right. So let's just say just

1130
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: just just a question. You had four quarterbacks in the draft,

1131
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,000
Speaker 1: and they're all average guys, and you're a quarterback needy team.

1132
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 1: You just jump up and take one because you need

1133
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: a quarterback anyway. See, this is a difference. No, I'm

1134
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 1: just asking you. Would you go ahead and jump up

1135
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:52,799
Speaker 1: and take one of those guys just because you need

1136
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 1: a quarterback? I don't know. I don't even though your

1137
00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: evaluator said, this guy's too short, this guy can't do this.

1138
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: If you're the value, this is a completely different discussion.

1139
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: Because John Dorsey had the belief in Baker Mayfield, he

1140
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: thought he was I'm asking you, I'm asking you this question.

1141
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: I think the guy is the best player in the

1142
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: quarterback needy football. If I'm a quarterback needy football team

1143
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: and I think four choices, yeah, and they're all average,

1144
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: you'd still take one. I don't know what else is there.

1145
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: You're not giving me enough clues in the scenario. The

1146
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: best running back in college football is staring you in

1147
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: the face. I probably wouldn't pick the best running back.

1148
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Probably you'd pick one of the average quarterbacks. I might, Okay, yeah,

1149
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:33,879
Speaker 1: I think I think it's I think it's four years.

1150
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: You'd TV. Maybe I would be, but I'd probably be

1151
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 1: on TV years anyway. I'd probably be on TV in

1152
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,759
Speaker 1: four years. Anyway. If I picked the running back and

1153
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: I didn't have a quarterback or any kind of offensive

1154
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: system that would allow that team to go to the playoffs,

1155
00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: we'll see in a very tight East. Well yeah, yeah,

1156
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: we'll see in a very tight NFC East. Shout out

1157
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: to the Avengers that that was going to be my

1158
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 1: parting shot. Oh my god, don't you're right. I just

1159
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 1: had it. Take Oh I hate you bringing that up again.

1160
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,279
Speaker 1: I'm so excited. I'm ignoring everything on the internet. Please

1161
00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: don't spoil it. Don't say anything. No, no no, no, No,

1162
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: I think people have been pretty respectful. So farther people

1163
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: who've seen the premiere, and all they said was basically like,

1164
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, this thing is amazing. Did you see

1165
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: Chadwick Boseman's interview. No, when they kept asking him about it,

1166
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 1: all he kept saying was I'm dead, So don't ask me.

1167
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm dead, don't don't ask me. I love that. It's

1168
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: pretty funny because he is. He's dead, right, So maybe

1169
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 1: we'll talk about that on the next episode. But nicee um, yes,

1170
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones. Also, this battle is going to be epic.

1171
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: Nice watch Game of Thrones. I just started really yes,

1172
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: so like, what the season are you on? Uh? Four? Okay? Yeah?

1173
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 1: Benj watching? Yeah. Yeah, it's good to be came at

1174
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,480
Speaker 1: a different time in my life. Man, you know when

1175
00:56:50,520 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: I couldn't watch the stuff right, all right, I think

1176
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 1: that we'll do it for this edition of Between the Horns. Everybody,

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00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 1: thanks so much for listening for DeMarco far I'm Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to check out the rams dot com or

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