1 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, the latest on DeAndre 2 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: Hopkins and why no One should panic No one should 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: be surprised by how Larry Fitzgerald feels about his lack 4 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: of targets against the Lions will get into his comments, 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Plus what is Vance Joseph's plan for a secondary that 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: is likely going to miss its top three safeties? This week, 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 1: it's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three twenty three, and it 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig Grigolu 9 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, 10 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: Visit Acy Cardinals dot com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to 12 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of Fritz Bob. He's into 13 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: the ends, off to the touchdown. Here's Craig Griolou and 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki. So if you don't mind, Mj'm just gonna 15 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: jump right into the show. There's a lot to cover, 16 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:08,199 Speaker 1: unless there's something you need to get off your chest 17 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: here on this Thursday. No, I'm ready to go. You 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: know the team's gonna leave on Friday, and unfortunately they're 19 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: not going to be able to go out sightseeing. It's 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: a business trip. So early start, and we're gonna have 21 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 1: a few of these in the next couple of weeks, 22 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: so we'll see how prepared the Cardinals have been practiced 23 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: in the morning. I get good vibes according to players, 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: they're going back to basics, trying to clean some things up, 25 00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: and so you know, I think last week could have 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: been a wake up call. Well ten am kickoffs not 27 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: only this week, but next week as well when they 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: play the Jets. The Cardinals, though, are coming back home. 29 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: They're not staying back East like the forty nine ers 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 1: did earlier this season. Although that was something that was 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: discussed earlier in the offseason, the pandemic has changed those plans. 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: Speaking of plans changing, MJ, When a player misses practice 33 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: on Wednesday, are you concerned about his availability on a Sunday? 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,919 Speaker 1: Depends who the player is, all Right, If that same 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: player now missus Wednesday and Thursday, are you worried about 36 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: his availability on Sunday? Okay, depends on the player, in 37 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: his background, in his history. If I was to tell 38 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,919 Speaker 1: you that this player has only missed two games in 39 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: his now eight year career, and he has not practiced 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday. Would you be concerned about his availability 41 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: on Sunday? I would want to know how much he 42 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: was able to do on Friday. All right, fair enough, 43 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: we're talking about working with you, Craig. We're talking about 44 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins. Certainly is surprised to see him 45 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: on the injury reports as an injured player. We've seen 46 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: him on the injury report all this season because Wednesday, 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: he and Larry Fitzgerald do not practice, not injury related, 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: it's a day off. Well, all of a sudden, he's 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: got an ankle issue. House of who knows. I'll say 50 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: this though, he did address the media this week on Tuesday, 51 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: something that typically injured players do not speak to the media. 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: In fact, I think it was Wednesday he spoke to 53 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: the media. So that would lead me to believe that, okay, 54 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: we're all right. Yet at the same time, he is 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: your number one offensive weapon. He's got the most yards, 56 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: he's got the most catches in the league. And now 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: the question is is there a question with Hopkins's availability 58 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: status or certainly not going to be less than one 59 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: hundred percent. Well, I mean, if you go back, you 60 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: remember when Christian Kirk got hurt in that game, he 61 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: didn't return, Yes, and then Hopkins, I assume it happened 62 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: on one of those tackles because we know how effective 63 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: he is, whether it's rack runs after catch or yak 64 00:03:55,440 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: yards after catch. He stayed in the game. So and 65 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: usually it takes you know, twenty four to forty hours 66 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 1: just anything. If the thing was going on, I just 67 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: think they're being cautious. But he's going back home and 68 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna have five thousand fans, and he was commenting 69 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: on the Clemson crowd really shows up. I gotta think, 70 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: you know, as long as he's able to do something, 71 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: and it is going to be a you know, a 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: good three and a half four or flight, you always 73 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,479 Speaker 1: got out swelling there. But the fact that they're going 74 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: to be in that city from Friday night until Sunday 75 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: morning until they play, I think we still have some time. 76 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: Here's what Larry Fitzgerald had to say. Again, he speaks 77 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: to the media on Thursday, and I did just look 78 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: it up. Hopkins addressed the media yesterday, so at that 79 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: time news hadn't broken about his ankle issue. But here's 80 00:04:48,200 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: what Fits had to say about number ten quote, we 81 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: need him, we need him for his playmaking ability, and 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: then he later added we need him bad. Quote. Now 83 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: I think some of that is just Larry Fitzgerald speaking 84 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: two other points on this, because if you remember back 85 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: in April when we had a first chance to hear, 86 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: it was April seventeenth, and his durability was asked about 87 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: because he's only missed two games, although only one in 88 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: his words because of injury. He mentioned then said quote, 89 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: I take a lot of pride in that being durable. 90 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: End quote. And then a tweet earlier today from someone 91 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: who might know Hopkins better than anyone else in our 92 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: market here in Arizona, you know him very well, John McClain. 93 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: He has covered the NFL for the Houston Chronicle for 94 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: forty five years. MJ. Heck, that's almost as long as 95 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,840 Speaker 1: I've been alive. But here's what McLean had to say 96 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: about Hopkins. Quote. For all those word about DeAndre Hopkins 97 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: missing practice with an ankle injury, he always answers the 98 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: bell as Aaron Rodgers might say, R E L A 99 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: X relax of tweets. And I say this because, well, 100 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: I'm guessing there's a lot of people wondering because probably 101 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: more for fanything else, that this is all of a 102 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: sudden become not just a topic but a headline. Yes, 103 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: and I was encouraged this morning based on Christian Kirk practicing. 104 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: So Christian Kirk's been out and we know that Andy 105 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: Isabella and Keishaw Johnson according to Kingsbury, you know, Larry's 106 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: going to be targeted a little bit more hopefully that's early. 107 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Hashtag feet fits. Oh we have a new hashtag. Well 108 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: you sit in the past, but usually I don't have 109 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: to break it out the soily in the season, so 110 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: hashtag feed fits. So you know, maybe hop doesn't play 111 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,600 Speaker 1: every single snap. I mean, I know they've been getting 112 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: Larry out a little bit, getting Keyshawn some more snaps. 113 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: You know, Andy Isabella I think has earned the right. 114 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: I think they want to get Chase Emmons and Kenyan 115 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: Drake some more opportunities. Whether I think it's more Rake 116 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: in the running game, and then Edmund's probably a little 117 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: bit of both, more of the passing game based on matchups. 118 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, he may not play every snap. But John McClane, 119 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of like Mike reefs in New 120 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: England covering Tom Brady. There's there's certain writers in certain 121 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: cities that when they speak, you listen, and so yeah, 122 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he doesn't have any insight, but 123 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: he just knows the person. And it's very clear that 124 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 1: Hopkins wants to play sixteen games and more. I think 125 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: he's putting up really good numbers and so he could 126 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: be the number one wide receiver at the end of 127 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: the season. So I think it's important that he plays. 128 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: I think we just got to come to a resolution, 129 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: Craig that this guy doesn't practice a lot. Now, Larry's 130 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: earned the rite. I think you know the guys that 131 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: are thirty plus, but we know he shows up on 132 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: Gay Day. It's not ideal. The more reps, the better 133 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: of this team will be. And they talk about being 134 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: in rhythm, and we'll talk about what Larry said that 135 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: he thinks are close, Kyle Little thinks are close, Cliff 136 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: thinks are close. So again, imitate him being out there 137 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: and just you know, I'm not saying he's going to 138 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: be a decoy, because I don't think he would put 139 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: him in jeopardy of doing that. How effective could he be, 140 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,120 Speaker 1: But just having him on the field, you're gonna have 141 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: to defend him a little bit different. I'm not worried 142 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: at all. I'll come right out and say it here 143 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: on a Thursday edition of Cardinals covered two. I fully 144 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: expect Hopkins not only to be on the field, but 145 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: to be on the field a lot. But as you mentioned, 146 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: I think this idea that you have to practice in 147 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: order to play applies to maybe what ninety percent of 148 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 1: the players and the National Football League. There are certain 149 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: players that can get away without practicing two days, three 150 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: days the entire week. And we've already seen that. I mean, 151 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: you go back to training camp. We were all concerned 152 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: when Hopkins wasn't out there every single day. Hey, he 153 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: needs his reps. It's a new system, it's a new offense, 154 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: new quarterback. Yet he's got thirty two catches three hundred 155 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: and fifty plus yards at this point. Heck, I don't 156 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 1: care if he practices at all, as long as McClain 157 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: pointed out, he shows up on Sundays, gets the Cardinals 158 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: eight plus catches for eighty plus yards for sixteen consecutive games. Hey, 159 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: you know what some guys can do it, most can't. 160 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: A small portion of the NFL are allowed to do that, 161 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: and I would put him DeAndre Hopkins in that category. Well, 162 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the old saying is, you know, 163 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: I think each coach treats players differently, and you know 164 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: who your five star players are? I think Jimmy Johnson. 165 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: There was a guy that was in a special teams meeting. 166 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: He fell asleep and he cut him and then somebody 167 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: asked him that was Troy Acon Michael Irvin. He said, 168 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: I would have woke him up. Well, how about this? 169 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: Remember All or Nothing with the Arizona Cardinals and there 170 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: was a player and I can't remember his name, but 171 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: it came out during that series he parked where he 172 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: was not supposed to part and he got released. Now, 173 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: if it was anyone else, hey, you know what, don't 174 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: park there you're not allowed to. Don't let it happen again. 175 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: Well he I was told, I was told he was 176 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: warm before that warm before. Okay. Yeah, But if that 177 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: was that was Larry Fitzgerald at the time, or Patrick 178 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: Peterson his car exactly, that was a kid from ox Car. Okay, 179 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: I'm you mentioned that story about Jimmy Johnson. It just 180 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: popped in my head, but I can't remember the player's name, 181 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, he was here and then gone and you're like, Okay, 182 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: was that Lauren. So I don't know, I'm gonna I'm 183 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to I'm gonna have to Jimmy need him exactly. 184 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'll figure it out before the end of 185 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: the show. But another thing is there there are heavy 186 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,599 Speaker 1: installed these now the players are not allowed to be 187 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: at the facility the day after game, um Cliff addresses 188 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: the media. So now they're they're taking there Tuesdays and 189 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: utilizing some practice time and you know, but that's a 190 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: heavy install you know. It was interesting and when Carson 191 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: got a little bit loader in his career and he 192 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: was obviously taking a beating with all the hits, you know, 193 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: I think he wanted to be out there, but sometimes 194 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 1: he would practice a little bit on Wednesday, a little 195 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: bit on Thursday, and nothing on Friday. So I think 196 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: for a quarterback, you have to be out there. I'm 197 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: stating the obvious. I don't think Kyler Murray is going 198 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: to get days off unless obviously they think he's maybe 199 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: not gonna be available on Sunday. So it happens, But 200 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: you just wonder what other guys. I think when you 201 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: look at KeAndre Hopkins career, I think you're willing to 202 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: overlook it. But for other guys, hey, until you earn 203 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 1: those skins on the wall, I don't think you have 204 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: the same Keyshawn Johnson and Andy Isabelle and Christian Kirk. 205 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: They can't be missing practice and there's still meetings, they're 206 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 1: still walkthroughs, so there's at least some work getting on. 207 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: And you brought it up, and I do want to 208 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: make a point about Christian Kirk on the practice field 209 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: for a second straight day after missing last week because 210 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: of a groin injury. Now we don't know how fur 211 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: how far along he is and the rehab process, but 212 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: I could certainly see him maybe missing another week just 213 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: as a precaution and going with Andy Isabella and Keishawn 214 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: Johnson like the Cardinals did a week ago. We'll have 215 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: to wait and see that the final injury report comes 216 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: out late on Friday, or I should say after Friday's practice. 217 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 1: I can't believe this. His name was Lawrence o'koya okoya. Okay, 218 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 1: we can do research here on Cardinals cover too well. 219 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: I knew I knew he was an Oxnard guy. He 220 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: grew up in London. He was he was a shot putterer. 221 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: I want to say he had a record holder for 222 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: disc event. I'm reading this now in rugby. And he 223 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 1: actually played for the forty nine ers, Cardinals, Jets, how Boys, Bears, Dolphins, 224 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: and then he was playing in the CFL and then 225 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: he ended his career with the Birmingham Irons. So he's 226 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: the one that was he was warned and then he 227 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 1: was cut. Well, he certainly bounced around the league often 228 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: enough by as many names or team. You know, my 229 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: first and last impression of that guy when they actually 230 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: reminded him they're not supposed to park there. He thought 231 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: that he was entitled. He has some entitlement keep walking exactly, 232 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: staying on the wide receiver topic. And I could have 233 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: told you this before it happened, but you knew the 234 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 1: question was going to be asked of Larry Fitzgerald. And 235 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: for people that no fits follow fits are fans of fits, 236 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: you know what he was going to say. He was 237 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: asked about being more involved in the offense. How Cliff 238 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: Kingsbury came out and publicly said, hey, we need to 239 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: get number eleven more involved. He needs to have the 240 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: ball thrown his direction. He only had the one catch 241 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: for zero yards and only targeted three times. Here was 242 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: Fitz's response when asked about his lack of targets quote, 243 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 1: I'm not concerned about my production at all. And then 244 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: he talked about he's never complained or politic for getting 245 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: balls his throne his way, talked about being a team game, 246 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 1: and then with respect to Kingsbury, quote, I do appreciate 247 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: him saying that, but I don't want my head coach 248 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: answering questions about any one player being targeted. Wherever the 249 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: ball goes, it goes. My only objective is to win 250 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: end quote. And that's been Larry Fitzgerald since I don't 251 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 1: know if since he first entered the league, but certainly 252 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: over the last ten fifteen years, if you will, that's 253 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: been his mindset. And I think you see that as 254 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: players get older, you get your numbers, and then all 255 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's okay, now I need to get 256 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 1: my championship. That's kind of always the maturation for players 257 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: in any professional sport. Yearly young and you want the money, 258 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 1: you want the recognition, and then as you get holder 259 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: and established, it's okay, what's my legacy. Do I have 260 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: championships that I can look back on and say, yes, 261 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: this is what I accomplished. Well, well, we all know, 262 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 1: and Larry's ten receptions from fourteen thousand and hopefully he 263 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: gets send the next couple of games. You know, I 264 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: had texted Larry, you know, after the game, got a 265 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: chance to hear from him the next day, and he said, 266 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: we're going to get this figured out. Mike. There's no worries, 267 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: and he actually just listening to him and connecting the dots. 268 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: He doesn't think that Cliffs should have to respond to 269 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: those questions because it's not an individual sport and ultimately 270 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: he's really playing to get back to the postseason. I mean, 271 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: he loves the camaraderie, he likes to grind, he likes 272 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 1: the process. He loves playing football. I mean he loves 273 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: playing on Sundays, Mondays and Thursday. He loves playing. So 274 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: you're never going to take that away from him. But 275 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: at this point in his life, it's really not about 276 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: targets in touch. This is about getting to nine, ten 277 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:06,600 Speaker 1: eleven wins and trying to get back into the postseason. 278 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: So all other stuff is secondary. So you could see 279 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,600 Speaker 1: that it kind of bothers that the coach has to 280 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: respond to that because he doesn't want to be singled out. 281 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: And he also brought up the fact that you mentioned 282 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 1: on how close this offense is. I believe it was 283 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: your question to number eleven about the offense still not 284 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: kind of living up the expectation. It's the negative plays, 285 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: it's the penalties, it's playing behind the sticks. Shooting themselves 286 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: in the foot has been a common phrase that we've 287 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: heard over the last week and a half or so. 288 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: But Fitz still believes that this can be a dominant 289 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: offense and an offense that is top three, top five, 290 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: if you will, if they just kind of fine tune 291 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: things a little bit. And even Durrell Daniels, the tight 292 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: end who spoke to the media on Thursday, mentioned just 293 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: the small little things that are keeping this team from 294 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: giants productions, if you will. Yeah, and I think you know, 295 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: listening to Patrick Peterson, I think that was even Larry 296 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: Fit a matter of fact, that that was the point 297 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: of emphasis this week when working on situational football. You're 298 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: not beating yourselves, not you're shooting yourselves in the foot. 299 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: And we know the Cardinals haven't forced a ton of 300 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: toneovers so far. You know, they come in bunches like sacks. 301 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: But today they're working on you know, not so much 302 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,479 Speaker 1: scooping a fumble, but you know picking up a fumble, 303 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: you're supposed to jump on it, but it's practice. You 304 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: don't want these guys jumping on it. But just a 305 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,399 Speaker 1: little technique where you got to go down and make 306 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: sure you get the ball, keep your eyes in the 307 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: right direction, and then you know, Kyler Murray and Cliff 308 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 1: and Larry said, this is close. Now, I still think 309 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: we have to wait twenty five percent of the season. 310 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: It'd be nice to see this team, you know, kind 311 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:51,199 Speaker 1: of jump start the offense where you know you're not 312 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: relying on the defense to make some stops in the 313 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: fourth quarter they can literally try to pound the football 314 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: and then getting that victory formation. But they feel like 315 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: they're close, and they would know based on how many 316 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 1: plays they've left on the field, negative plays, drop passes, 317 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: just not everyone being in sync. And I think rhythm 318 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: is the word that they're looking for. Yeah, that's kind 319 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,360 Speaker 1: of been the theme so far this season, at least 320 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 1: through three games. Is there's been no rhythm consistent for 321 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 1: an entire football game. And maybe that happens this week 322 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: before we get into Maybe this is the week for 323 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: this Cardinals passing and attack to really get into high gear. 324 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: Larry Fitzgerald also making news off the field today his 325 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 1: First Down Fund, he has partnered with Cardinals Charities along 326 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: with Albertson's and Safe Way, donating one hundred and twenty 327 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 1: thousand dollars towards nutrition programming for the Boys and Girls 328 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: Clubs of the Valley. And this First Down Fund, I know, 329 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: is something very very important to fits and it doesn't 330 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 1: make a big deal out of a lot of his 331 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: charity work, but this one is certainly for him. Yeah, 332 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: it's important, and I think he'll continue it throughout his career. 333 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: I do think Phoenix or Arizona will be his residence. 334 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: He does like to travel a little bit, obviously his 335 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: hometowns Minnesota. But you know, usually Larry has his supper 336 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: club where he obviously invites the media out and you 337 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: get a chance to interview there, and then they have 338 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: a red carpet. As we pointed out earlier in the week, 339 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: though all these charity events that happened in September and 340 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: October and November, they pretty much been canceled, so he's 341 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: still doing his part. And we know the Cardinals as 342 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: an organization do great work in the community, just like 343 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: the other major sports. You know, we always focus on 344 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: what's happening on the field, but they always get back 345 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 1: to the community. Cardinals do a great job, including Nicole 346 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 1: Bidwell and Michael Goodwell going to the Society of Saint 347 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: Vincent de Paul. They do Christmas shopping. You know, players 348 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: will take kids under protrige kids or from the inner cities, 349 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 1: so it's always nice to get back. And even though 350 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: we were still dealing with the pandemic, they're still willing 351 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: to put their name and their money where their mouth is. 352 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,880 Speaker 1: Bird Gang. Make sure you update to the latter's version 353 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: of the Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an 354 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: all new redesign homescreen experience. Visit asy cardinals dot com 355 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: slash app for more. As we continue here on this 356 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday, proud 357 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Kind of gearing more towards 358 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: the x's and oos of this week's contest against the 359 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,439 Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers, mentioned the fact that perhaps this is the 360 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: week that we see more of Kyler Murray being successful 361 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: in the passing game, and that's because this Panthers defense 362 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,360 Speaker 1: is not very good against the past. Now a week 363 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 1: ago as a Lion's defense that was not good against 364 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: the run, and the Cardinals didn't run enough according to many. Now, 365 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: can they get that passing game in gear? The Panthers 366 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: twenty fourth against the pass and fourteenth and passing yards 367 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 1: per play at almost seven. They only have two interceptions 368 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: this season that's both by quarterback Dante Jackson, and they 369 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: don't get a lot of pressure on quarterbacks. Just the 370 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: two sacks which came last week and their win at 371 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 1: the Chargers. Yeah, the thing is, though, you know, they 372 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: brought in a new head coach. We talked about and 373 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: getting a six year deal, you know, Dave Teppers. Probably 374 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: they want the richest owner in football with there were 375 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: thirteen billion. They hire Phil Snow, you know it sounds 376 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: like Corey Nicyler. They run exotic blitzes. We could see 377 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: some zone blitzes where they show a front and then 378 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: they drop back into coverage. Now, you know, I think 379 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: teams if they're not going to put a spy on Murray, 380 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: they're going to try to rush for and drop seven 381 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: into coverage and force him to throw in tight windows, 382 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: and that means you got to get separation. We know 383 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: their routes are predicated on the defense, and you have 384 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: to change your route running. So yeah, I think they're 385 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: out for the task. And again, they don't have to 386 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 1: go out there and score forty points. I don't think 387 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: this other team wants to get into a shootout with them. 388 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: But you know, they are plus three. I don't know 389 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 1: if they had a turnover in week one, but there 390 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: plus their plus three, they've had six turnovers total. Obviously 391 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: they turn the ball over themselves. So you know, I 392 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: think they're still trying to figure out their identity. And 393 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: we know Phil Snow is really familiar with the air 394 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: raid offense. Obviously. You know Matt Rules really his backgrounds 395 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: offensive line, and he's trying to get that offensive line 396 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: to play, you know, in unity and sync. And I 397 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: don't know if they've done that so far. And Bridgewater 398 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:30,959 Speaker 1: gets rid of the ball pretty quickly. And you talk 399 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: about Teddy Bridgewater, do you remember that story when the 400 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: ambulance showed up in Minnesota when he got hurt. When 401 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: he got hurt, the fact that he was five and 402 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: all last year when Drew Bridges went down with the 403 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: thumber injury and he resorted with a new contract. They 404 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: moved down from cam Newton. So it's nice to see 405 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,679 Speaker 1: him come back because that was so I mean, he 406 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: thought he was going to be at a walk again 407 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 1: his knee was that bad. And the fact that an 408 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: ambulance had to come to the facility during practice. It 409 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: happened in a non contact drill. So it's a good story. 410 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously he's moved on from that. But 411 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, that's one guy you just don't want to 412 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: sit in a pocket and kind of picky apart because 413 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: I do think he'll run, but I think he's more 414 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: similar to some other quarterbacks where they want to make 415 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 1: throw us from in the park and they got some weapons. 416 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,680 Speaker 1: You know, well, that's exactly what Bridgewater did last week 417 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: against the Chargers. I mean, he is completing seventy four 418 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: percent of his passes. That his third best in the league. 419 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: In each of the past two weeks, he's been over 420 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: seventy five percent. He was twenty two of twenty eight 421 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: for two thirty five at the Chargers, and we heard 422 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: from defensive coordinate, advanced Joseph earlier today. It's not so 423 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: much that he can make every throw, but like a 424 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,239 Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, that ball comes out fast. So can you 425 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: get pressure quickly or do you kind of have to 426 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: drop back and maybe hopefully Bridgewater makes a mistake or two, 427 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,679 Speaker 1: or you've got good coverage in the secondary in the 428 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,360 Speaker 1: back end to where he's got no one to throw 429 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 1: the ball too. Well, if they contained Mike Davis, um, 430 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: I think that you put Bridgewater in a basically one 431 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: of the situation where he's gonna have to throw the 432 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: football and what was he twenty two for twenty eight? Correct? Okay, 433 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: so the numbers got to get up. Now, they do 434 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: have some weapons. Robbie Anderson's a fast receiver, CJ. DJ Moore, 435 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 1: DJ Moore and then CJ Samuel, Curtis Samuel Samuel. Excuse me, Yeah, 436 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: so they do have some weapons. And we watched Kyle 437 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: Allen last year. They don't have the study and veteran 438 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,720 Speaker 1: tight end that they had in the pass. But yeah, 439 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: and you know, Patrick brought it up and then I 440 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: followed up with advance and we know that there's no 441 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey, but Patrick Peterson. You know, just for our listeners, 442 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: Joe Brady, who was the offensive coordinate at LSU, previously 443 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: worked for the Saints, so he learned from Sean Payton. 444 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: He's their oct in. According to Patrick Peterson, their offense 445 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,719 Speaker 1: is like the Saints, a lot of shifting, a lot 446 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: of ocean. So I think they're going to turn. The 447 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: word I was trying to look for is they want 448 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: to make Bridgewater one dimensional. One dimensional if you can 449 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: stop the run. Cardinals have gone against Mike Davis. He's 450 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 1: a thick back, about five nine, two hundred and twenty pounds. 451 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: He was with the forty nine ers. He's with the Seahawks, 452 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: so they're familiar with him. But I do think they 453 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: want to make Bridgewater one dimensional, and I would think 454 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: that's the passing game. Cardinals feel like they get some 455 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: more pressure this week. You know, we know that the 456 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: sacks have been there. We'll see about Canard's situation, but 457 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,120 Speaker 1: you know, it sounds like we'll get into Isaiah Simmons here. 458 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 1: But you know, if they can win the line of 459 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: scrimmage and they feel like they can get to the quarterback, 460 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: maybe this is a week they get some turnovers. Yeah, right, 461 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,200 Speaker 1: now Canard dealing with a calf issue. Davis two years 462 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 1: ago when he was with the Seahawks rush for one 463 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: hundred and one yards on the Cardinals, so they should 464 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: be very familiar. I know there's a lot of turnover 465 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: and it's the new staff, but certainly when you look 466 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: at that defense, the Chandler Jones and Patrick Peterson, they're 467 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: very well aware of what Mike Davis is able to do. 468 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you say the Cardinals catch 469 00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,240 Speaker 1: a break because there is no Christian McCaffrey. But sometimes 470 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,880 Speaker 1: when you lose that big star, everyone else has their 471 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: game elevated, and then it's human nature. On the other side, 472 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: you're looking as like, oh, well they don't have McCaffrey, 473 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 1: they don't have a chance. They're missing their number one threat. 474 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: Maybe they're one, two, three, and four threat, just because 475 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: Nellen can he run the ball, but he catches the 476 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: ball so well. And that is the danger the Cardinals 477 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: face this week, going into a situation on the road 478 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: to where the Panthers coming off a win, feeling good 479 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: about themselves because now they know they can win without McCaffrey. Yeah, 480 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: And the fact is, if you want to go back 481 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: to the game against the Panthers last year. All week, Oh, 482 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: they're playing possum, cam Newton's playing and then Kyle Ellen 483 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: goes out there and lights up the Cardinals. So I 484 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: do think they probably thought this is a very winnable game, 485 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: and it should have been. Unfortunately, the offense was still 486 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: getting figured that obviously when they played Cincinnati they won 487 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: on that three game winning street. But that's a prime example. 488 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: And again you want to go back a few years ago, 489 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: then no Tom Brady who was serving a suspension, No 490 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: Rob Gronkowski, no Nate Solder, and they to maybe talk 491 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. He really doesn't have a lot of starts, 492 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: and they end up losing that game, and a lot 493 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: of people think it derailed their entire season because there 494 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,200 Speaker 1: were so many expectations after the previous years. So, yeah, 495 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: it's the NFL, and I think Larry said, if you're 496 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: playing in the NFL, you have to check a lot 497 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: of boxes to get there. And so in other words, 498 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: these guys are in the NFL rosters. They may not 499 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: be household names, but they're worthy of being in the 500 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 1: National Football League. Fits with respect to that loss to 501 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: the Lions. Quote Sunday was a great wake up call 502 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:58,160 Speaker 1: for us. Shook us up, and there's no reason for 503 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: this team now going on the road to overlook the 504 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 1: Panthers and focus on the Jets, or overlook the two 505 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Jets and then start thinking about the Monday night game. 506 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: You get all messed up in the head and you're 507 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: not gonna be able to perform well when you hear 508 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 1: from Corey Peters like this is going to happen if 509 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 1: you don't play you know, your A game or if 510 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: you play your A minus game. And let's be honest, 511 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: I mean Larry didn't mention that or Patrick two. If 512 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 1: you turn the ball over three times, you're not forcing turnovers, 513 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: you're probably gonna be on the losing end. Regardless. We 514 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: all know this came down to a less second field goal. 515 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: They were in the game. Unfortunately the defense couldn't make 516 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: a stop for the last four minutes and forty nine seconds. 517 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: You brought up the pass rush and a question was 518 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: asked of coach Joseph on the pass rush because everyone 519 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: is focusing on the lack of sacks from Chandler Jones. 520 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: He has just one and that was in Week one. 521 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: But overall, this team has eleven sacks, which is the 522 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 1: fifth most in the NFL. Four different players have two sacks. 523 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 1: It's just not the name that everyone is focused on. 524 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: A Son Reddick's got to, Davon Kennard has to Corey 525 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 1: Peters has two sacks. The defensive line is getting that 526 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: push that we all talked about in the offseason and 527 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: training camp. They've got six sacks amongst themselves. Last year 528 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: they had seven total. So the pass rush is there. 529 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: And I think what coach Joseph brought up was important 530 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: to note. Because Jones is getting a lot of attention, 531 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: someone else has to step up, and that's where Canard 532 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 1: and Reddick have come into play. And I gotta think, 533 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: you know, again Rule his background as the offensive line 534 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: and he's trying to, you know, get those guys going. 535 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 1: And you know, they traded Trade Turner and they lost 536 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: to Andrew Norwell a couple of years ago, a really 537 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: good guard. So I gotta think they're gonna flip channel around. 538 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't think he's just gonna line up on one side. 539 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: You can flip and and based on how asan Redi explained, 540 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: and the fact that Cannard's dealing with a you know, 541 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: nursing an injury. I gotta think that you're gonna see 542 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: a lot of Reddick and if Canaric can go. But 543 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna they're gonna move channeling around. I 544 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: don't think they you know, because whether he's getting double team. 545 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 1: We always talk about if somebody's gonna put a spy 546 00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: on Murray, that means somebody's open. Now easier said than done, 547 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: because he keeps him in the pocket. But I think 548 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: between Advance and some of the coaches on defense, Billy 549 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: Davis and some of the secondary coaches, they want to 550 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: create pressure up front. And let's be honest, I mean, 551 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: going into this game, Kyler Murray I would take and 552 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: then next week Sam Darnel. Not that we're worrying about 553 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: the Jets right now, but I'm just saying, this is 554 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks where maybe you could force some 555 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: turnovers and that will go a long way when it 556 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: comes to the win loss record. Well, and this week 557 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: in particular, maybe even next week as well. If you 558 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 1: can get a pass for rush, if you can get 559 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: that quarterback scrambling off his spot forced him to get 560 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 1: rid of the football, that means your back end doesn't 561 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: have to cover. And the Cardinals secondary right now is 562 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: banged up, not at the cornerback position, but at the 563 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: safety position. And let's get into this, because the Cardinals 564 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: did make a roster move and that was adding veterans 565 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 1: safety T J. Ward to the practice squad. Here is 566 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: something that we've talked about a couple of different times 567 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: here on the show, that you can put veterans now 568 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. You've got a two time pro 569 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 1: bowler now on the practice squad, eight years in the league. 570 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: He hasn't played though in the NFL since twenty seventeen 571 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: with Tampa Bay. But someone that certainly has the experience 572 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: and the knowledge that if needed, could come in and play. 573 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: Because it certainly looks like Buddha Baker's not going to 574 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: be available, Maybe no Chris Banjo, and we know Jalen 575 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: Thompson is going to miss at least another week. Yeah, 576 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: according to Vans, looks like Deonte Thompson, who's been in 577 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: the system over a year. And then you throw in 578 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: Curtis Riley, who's on that final drive against the Lions. 579 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: He's really their fish string, you know, safety, and he's 580 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: being here a month. So again I think it's really 581 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: going to come down to these corners, Murphy, Kirkpatrick and 582 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: Peterson and then hopefully those guys. And you know, I 583 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: think considering Ward was on the practice field today and 584 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: they pretty much said he's not going to play, I 585 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: would think he'd be a guy that's, you know, depending 586 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: on Banjo and depending on Buddha Baker. But it's a 587 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: good luxury to have, you know, he's Patrick said, I 588 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: think he played with him at in the Pro Bowl 589 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: in Arizona. That's how long it's been. He's a couple 590 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: of Pro Bowls. But he's a guy that knows the position. 591 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: So unfortunately, you know, you gotta go what you have. 592 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: You got to guys that are familiar. Riley was a 593 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: late edition, so he's been in the system for a 594 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: few weeks now. So I would think if depending on 595 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: the availabily A Banjo and Buddha Baker next week, we 596 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: could see t J. Ward. Now. When this move was announced, 597 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: I fully expected that Ward because it was something we 598 00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: talked about yesterday that the Cardinals hadn't gone out and 599 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: grabbed a veteran safety with the injury or the surgery 600 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: on Buddha Baker and maybe that was a telling sign 601 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to be a long term injury. 602 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: And then this morning they add TJ. Ward to the 603 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: practice squad. All right, that's good. You can certainly because 604 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: of the new rules, you can elevate up to two 605 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: practice squad players the day before the game. Maybe he 606 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 1: is on the active roster comes Saturday. That was certainly 607 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: something that would be an option. And yet coach Joseph 608 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: Today quote the move was made more for the future. 609 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: Talking about TJ. Ward, he hasn't been here long enough 610 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: to know the game plan or the system. So that 611 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: was a little bit of a surprise. So maybe now 612 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: we're back to thinking that it's not going to be 613 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: a long term timetable for Buddha Baker, that he'll be 614 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: able to come back after missing just the one week. 615 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: If it is just the one week. Yeah, And we 616 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 1: wondered the entire offseason, you know, where the Cardinals is 617 00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: going to try to bring in another venture safety. And 618 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: you know, obviously Tony Jefferson was out there. According to 619 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: Tony Jefferson's or his agent, he's not ready to really uh, 620 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, put the bads on, but he is making visits. 621 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 1: So and then they you know obviously brought you know, 622 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 1: Riley in, but it's a good assurance policy. I mean, 623 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: the guys got experience, you know. Again, Banjoe was more 624 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: of a special teams player. Obviously he was throwing into 625 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: the position you know late last year when Deontay Thompson 626 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 1: wasn't out there. So to me, t j ward Is 627 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: is a great guy to come off the bench, and 628 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: Banjo's more of a special teams player, where this guy's 629 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: more of a you know, downhill safety guys. So I 630 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: think that's accurate and he would know more than I do. 631 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: Referring to vans Um, it's good to have that because again, 632 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: you can't rely on Curtis Riley over a period of time. 633 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: I think they're good in the pinch. We know that 634 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: Deontay Thompson lost his job to Jalen Thompson, and we 635 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: know Budha Baker is one of the better players. So 636 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,839 Speaker 1: it makes total sense. This isn't for this week, It's 637 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: for the next I guess twelve or thirteen games. Patrick 638 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: Peterson and coach Joseph very complimentary of the safeties that 639 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: they do have. Peterson quote, we have guys that we're 640 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: confident in end quote Coach Joseph quote, I think we're 641 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: in good shape at safety end quote, with respect to 642 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: Deante Thompson and Curtis Riley. And then he brought up 643 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: something that was an interesting point that I hadn't really 644 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: thought about. But you talk about injuries happening at the 645 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: same positions every year, it always seems to happen. A 646 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 1: year ago was the running back position, this year it's 647 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: the safety position. And Coach Joseph never wanting to see 648 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: injuries happen, but acknowledge that the safety position is one 649 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: of those positions to where you can get away with 650 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: guys being injured. So you're playing center field, you're kind 651 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: of the last resort, if you will. So much of 652 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 1: the attention needs to be focused on the defensive line 653 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 1: and linebackers into this certain extent, the cornerback position. So 654 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: let's hope for one week that they just get away, 655 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: if you will, with a Deonte Thompson and Curtis Riley, 656 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: because the last image of Curtis Riley was getting beat 657 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: up the sideline on Sunday for a long game to 658 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: put the Lions and game winning field goal position. Yeah, 659 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,879 Speaker 1: and you know it's you always want to have your 660 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:24,279 Speaker 1: front front three four guys. I mean, obviously, you know 661 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 1: you don't want to see Corey Peters or Jordan Phillis 662 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: miss a game. You don't want to see Chandler Jones 663 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: or Jordan Hicks or Devantre Campbell miss a game. And 664 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,960 Speaker 1: you don't want to see Patrick Peterson in this case, 665 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 1: draker Patrick Bayer Murphy missed the game. So I understand 666 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: that usually in sports you build up the middle. You 667 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: know different sports basketball, we don't see the center as much. 668 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 1: In baseball, you gotta have a good catcher, shortstop, second baseman, 669 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: so a little bit different. In football, we always talk 670 00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: about the four most important positions when you're building a 671 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: roster quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher, and corners. So again, 672 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: I think you and I enjoy listen in advanced Joseph 673 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 1: and he's pretty straight with us. He's gonna try to 674 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: take away their best player and then go from there. Now, 675 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,719 Speaker 1: the one name we have not mentioned Isaiah Simmons. And 676 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: this is interesting because Patrick Peterson addressed the media beforehand 677 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,960 Speaker 1: and he was asked about Simmons and then added this quote, 678 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 1: he hasn't been at safety all week end. Quote. Now, 679 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,279 Speaker 1: I don't know how you took that, MJ. But there's 680 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: two different ways that I heard that, meaning he hasn't 681 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: been at safety at all this week or he hasn't 682 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: been at safety a lot this week. So I couldn't 683 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: quite read what was going on there until Vance Joseph 684 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: addressed the media about an hour or two later, and 685 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: he basically said, oh, no, Simmons isn't ready. There'll be 686 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: a package or two for him. Maybe you see him 687 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: play safety for a snap or two. And I'm paraphrasing here, 688 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: but at no point did coach Joseph led On or 689 00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: even acknowledge that Simmons was going to see a lot 690 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: of time, let alone start at safety, something everyone spent 691 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: a considerable amount of time dissecting earlier in the week. 692 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:18,400 Speaker 1: When Kingsbury said, oh, yeah, that's something that's being discussed. Well, 693 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,160 Speaker 1: maybe it's been discussed, and hey, let's go to plan 694 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: B or C and not quite rush Simmons because he 695 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: is just three games into his NFL career. Well, I 696 00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's gamesmanship. But when you talk to 697 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: the coordinator and he tells you that right now that 698 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 1: he have certain packages for him, I still thinking, again, 699 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 1: you got to play the guys you have on your roster. 700 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: But I still think, you know, you slow playing a 701 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: week side and you let him rush the passer and 702 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: there's gonna be time he's gonna have to cut a 703 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: run back in the flat. I think he'll take good 704 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: angles on that. Yeah, I still think. You know, I 705 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,080 Speaker 1: know people don't want to hear it, but Campbell and 706 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,720 Speaker 1: Hicks and Reddick and Chandler, I'm not taking those guys 707 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: off the field. So it is what it is. I'm 708 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 1: just glad that they're not relying on him. But hopefully 709 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: as a season progresses, he gets more opportunity, gets more comfortable. 710 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: And again, just like all thirty two teams, I mean, 711 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 1: these guys really missed the offseason, just just even the 712 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: rookie mini camps, being at the facility until the end 713 00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: of June, no preseason games, no excuse. Everyone's dealing with it. 714 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: But I think right now, you know, before his head 715 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,080 Speaker 1: starts spinning, Now, I think it gets um. I think 716 00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 1: it gets misconstrued because you know, people are out there 717 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 1: watching practice and he is running with the secondary in drills. 718 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: Now we don't get a chance to see, you know, 719 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 1: seven on seven, eleven on eleven. So, but you know, 720 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,439 Speaker 1: he has been doing it all training camp and that's 721 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:59,319 Speaker 1: just more to work on his feet. So from that standpoint, 722 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they are telling us the truth. It's just 723 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,439 Speaker 1: you know, they can't go in there with a guy 724 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: that's still learning. I mean nothing against Curtis Riley, but 725 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,720 Speaker 1: at least he's been here, he's been in those meetings 726 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: and so but again, I still think Isaiah could be 727 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: effective in the front seven. I really do. And we're 728 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,600 Speaker 1: not sitting here saying that Simmons is not going to 729 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 1: cover receivers or maybe even see some time in the secondary. 730 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: It just earlier this week, it would not have surprised 731 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: me if Simmons was your starting safety, just because perhaps 732 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: the team thought he was a better option than a 733 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson or a Curtis Riley. Yet listening to coach Joseph, 734 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: that's couldn't be further from the truth. They're going to 735 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: certainly play Simmons at multiple positions. They've got different packages 736 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: that he has a role in. But he is not 737 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: going to be pigeonholed as a safety because of Buddha 738 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,240 Speaker 1: Baker's injury. He's going to be everywhere on the field, 739 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: but certainly concentrating on inside linebacker. So not that we 740 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 1: wasted everyone's time with that discussion earlier in the week 741 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: kem J. But as they say, plans change, and as 742 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: you get closer to game time, you kind of get 743 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: more and more information on how things might play out. 744 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: And right now, it does not sound like Isaiah Simmons 745 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: is an option at the safety position. Yeah, in the good, 746 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:23,840 Speaker 1: perfect scenario, you know, you get boot It back and 747 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: you get Jalen Thompson back, and then he can just 748 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: learn his natural position which they want to play him 749 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,319 Speaker 1: at the week side, and I do think he can 750 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: rush the passer, so that I mean, it's I feel 751 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: good about it if they can get through this game 752 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: and possibly get one of the two back, if not both, 753 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,040 Speaker 1: and then obviously we'll focus on the Cowboys game after 754 00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: the Jets game. But yeah, and I find it interesting 755 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: where you know, Cardinal fans, and you know, when you 756 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 1: tweet something out or you make comment about something, or 757 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,720 Speaker 1: you listen to the podcast, they say, just play the rookie. 758 00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,800 Speaker 1: Not so fast. This team is trying to win games. 759 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: You know, they took some lumps last year going through 760 00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,960 Speaker 1: some rookie you know, growing pains, and obviously you know 761 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: guys like Kyler Murray and Andy Isabella and Byron Murphy 762 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: and I can name another five, right, guys that have 763 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: made strides. So it's not as simple as you think. 764 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean, to just play the rookie. How many rookies 765 00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: are as you pointed out on postgame show, you look 766 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,360 Speaker 1: at all thirty two rookies, how many are actually playing? 767 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,760 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you see a couple that are starting, 768 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,320 Speaker 1: usually as lineman Andrew Thomas becked in with the Jets. 769 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 1: But for the most part, if you're you know, in 770 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: different positions are hard to learn. Again, they didn't draft 771 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 1: him for real one week. They didn't draft him for 772 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: this year. He's gonna be here for the next four 773 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: or five years and hopefully he's the player everyone thought 774 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 1: he would be. Bird Gang subscribed to Arizon a Cardinals 775 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 1: podcast on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcast, Stitcher, and SoundCloud. 776 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,960 Speaker 1: Listen to your favorite shows on the go, like Cardinals Underground, 777 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 1: The Big Red Rags, The Cardinals Red Sea Report, and 778 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:59,439 Speaker 1: of course this show Cardinals Cover two. Is that as 779 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: Cardinals dot Com slash podcast for more information, So homework again, MJ. 780 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 1: It is a Thursday night. You've got Thursday Night football, 781 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,640 Speaker 1: but you also have a homework assignment because we need 782 00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 1: your three keys and your X factor for the Cardinals 783 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: to get back in the win column here in week four. 784 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:21,799 Speaker 1: Sounds good. I you know, it comes down to, you know, 785 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,440 Speaker 1: different matchups, but it's gonna be a you know something 786 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 1: that from a Cardinal standpoint, They're gonna have to win 787 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:31,640 Speaker 1: these matchups. And I'll go through three and I'll come 788 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,680 Speaker 1: up with the X factor because you know, like I said, 789 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,839 Speaker 1: you want to avoid losing streaks and not saying they're 790 00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna lose four or five in a row. But it's 791 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: Larry pointing out it is kind of a wake up call. 792 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: And I think they're going back to basics. So this 793 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: should be an interesting game and hopefully they get off 794 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: to a good start. And that's what's ahead on our 795 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 1: show come Friday, a Football Friday, hashtag fits Friday hashtag 796 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: feed fits as we keep adding them here on this 797 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: at is of Cardinals Covered two. And on that note, 798 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 1: we'll put a lid on this Thursday edition of Cardinals 799 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 1: Covered two Special. Thanks as always to our executive producer 800 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: Jim Mo Monro for Mike Jarecki. I'm Praig Reel Loup. 801 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.