1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,160 Speaker 1: I caught my husband cheating, but he said it isn't 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: real cheating. 3 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 2: Should I leave him? And this is. 4 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Okop where we tell the craziest true stories on Earth. 5 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 2: I'm John and Sam. Should they leave him? 6 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 3: I want to know what this real cheating he thinks 7 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 3: exists is. I bet you it's some emotional cheating. And 8 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 3: I think let's drop this relationship either way. But there's 9 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 3: only one way to find out. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: Spell that day. 11 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: So this story comes from Luna Nova five seven to six. 12 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: They say my husband and I, both thirty five, have 13 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,280 Speaker 1: been together for seven years and married for five. He 14 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: has two older brothers that he isn't particularly close with. 15 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: The one person he is very close with is his 16 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: cousin Aaron. Oh, please tell me it's not one of 17 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: those stories, John, come on, come. 18 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: On, jo man it Riley not at me. He's the 19 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 2: one that picks them. I just read them. 20 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: They lived together after my husband graduated college. He was 21 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: even the best man at our wedding, and Aaron even 22 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: lived with us for a year while we were married 23 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: so he. 24 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 2: Could finish school. 25 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: Okay, so they're very close, almost like brothers, like best 26 00:00:58,520 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: friend brothers. 27 00:00:59,160 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: Cousins. 28 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:04,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, God, really, I like erin a lot. He has 29 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: felt like a brother in law to me, much more 30 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: than my actual in laws have ever felt. My husband 31 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,320 Speaker 1: and I have had a rough three years between COVID. 32 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: There was a point where both of our fathers were 33 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: in terrible health. We've dealt with infertility issues, and sadly, 34 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: in July, we had a still birth at thirty four 35 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: weeks pregnant. I am, that's almost about to pop two. 36 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: That's awful. And Aaron has been there for us through 37 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 1: all of that. He is probably the person my husband 38 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: can lean on the most for support. 39 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: That's awesome. 40 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: Last night I get a call from Aaron's longtime girlfriend, Jennifer. 41 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: She asked if it was okay if she come over 42 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 1: and have some girl talk with me. Jennifer and Aaron 43 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: have been together as long as my husband and I have, 44 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: so seven years. She has three kids from a previous 45 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: relationship and we love them. They spent the night at 46 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: our house and her oldest kid, dog sat for us. 47 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: She comes over and proceeds to tell me a serious 48 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: problem that she has had with Aaron cheatingh It's got 49 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:02,920 Speaker 1: to be cheating, and she is at a loss of 50 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: what to do. It's got to be cheating. The main 51 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: crux of the issues here are Aaron is in an 52 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: insane amount of debt and he basically used her as 53 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: a place to crash for seven years. He is constantly 54 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: criticizing her for parenting, saying she babies her teenage children. 55 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 2: Wait, why is he in debt? That's what I want 56 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 2: to know. That is the real question. 57 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 3: And also who is he to say, oh, you're parenting 58 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 3: your children wrong where he can't even. 59 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: Figure out his own spending. Man's life is in shambles. 60 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, listen, you should do a better job on 61 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: them than you're doing on the baby. 62 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: Op needs to parent this guy parent better, babe, be 63 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: my mommy. 64 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: And finally lying about where he's going and his locations 65 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: have him at a massage place that does happy end. 66 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: Oh, man is going broke, getting tugged, tugged out of 67 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: all his cash. They're tugging away those hundred dollar bills. 68 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: I hate to say that the financial issues in the 69 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:05,799 Speaker 1: parenting issues I vaguely already knew about. Even my husband 70 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,400 Speaker 1: and I have called Aaron out about how he talks 71 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: about the teenagers, but I had no idea how bad 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: it was. 73 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 3: Kind of feels like maybe he has a little bit 74 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 3: of resentment to the three kids from the previous marriage. 75 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 2: I mean, that would make a ton of sense. Well, 76 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: you think it's good to have resentment no kids from 77 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: a previous marriage? What the fuck? Josh a terrible step dad. 78 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: I can't believe the presses. Yeamn, bro John thinks it's 79 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: good to resent step children. 80 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, Suevie, it's super unhealthy. But I 81 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: see the logic behind why people would do that. You 82 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: see the logic of like why someone would hate their 83 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: step children. 84 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 2: Yes, I do. 85 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: We talked through it and I flat out asked her 86 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: if he is going to a massage parlor and getting 87 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: a happy ending behind your back, would you still stay 88 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: with him? 89 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: And she said, yes, knew it. Good call. 90 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 3: There is some people also in like Chinese culture, I believe. 91 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 3: I think we talked about this in another another episode, 92 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: that like it's not a big deal if like their 93 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: husbands go to prostitutes, but it is if they're. 94 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: Going like with a lay woman, right, like, if they're 95 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: like having like a whole nother full. 96 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: Relationships, and then that those are emotional ties and the 97 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: emotional cheating is what's the worst it's not actually the 98 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: physical cheating. 99 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 1: So you're saying it's totally okay for guys in relationships to. 100 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 2: Get to go to these parlors. If that's in your 101 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: relationship contract, then yeah, we're leaning into dayly my job. 102 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: I gave her some advice about boundaries and talking to him, 103 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: and I left it at that. After she left, I 104 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: went upstairs and told my husband what she said. He 105 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: proceeds to have a complete breakdown. He is in tears. 106 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: I finally get him to talk, and he starts saying 107 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: things like, can I just have one person in my 108 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: life that I can trust? I can't go to my 109 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: brothers to talk, and now I can't trust Aaron because 110 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: I know he's been doing this crap. 111 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: He's fa better than this. This just completely and utterly destroyed. 112 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: I feel terrible. I didn't think about it when I 113 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 2: told him what Jennifer said. I didn't even think that 114 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 2: it could ruin their relationship. Aaron is the only person 115 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: he goes to for advice and really looks up to 116 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: as a big brother. 117 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 3: Ope's husband is like, oh, I thought he was a 118 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 3: stand up guy, and now he knows that he's not exactly. 119 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: And I just completely destroyed that image. I'm going with 120 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: the classic pretend it didn't happen technique this morning. 121 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 2: That's not a good technique. 122 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: Classic we don't like that technique, old faithful problem. 123 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: I hope it goes away, but I just feel like 124 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: I completely took away a family member who felt completely 125 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: comfortable turning to for emotional support. 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: The f did I do? 127 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: And we have an update, but we got to take 128 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: a little pitstop right here talk about it. 129 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 3: The real question here is does Op's husband want this information? 130 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 3: Is he happy to I mean, he might not be 131 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: happy that he knows it, but would he be comfortable 132 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 3: and okay not knowing it? Like there's a reason that 133 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: he feels like he doesn't want to go to this 134 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 3: guy anymore because now he knows the truth of this 135 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 3: person's moral integrity. And so yes, it does suck, but 136 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 3: maybe this is the truth that he needed. Yeah, maybe, 137 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 3: maybe maybe, And I think maybe ask you know your 138 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: husband that, like, do you wish I didn't tell you? 139 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: I wonder what advice he's given to him over the year, 140 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 1: because it seems like he would constantly go to. 141 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: Him for Yeah, it's like, hey, I know you're really stressed, man, 142 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 3: I know this place you could go to relief stress. 143 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 3: You just really need to expel some stuff, you know, 144 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 3: Just get a sage. 145 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, just get the best massage place. Five stars. It's 146 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 2: the best. 147 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: YEA, thank you everyone for your kind words andrew jokes. 148 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: It certainly helped calm down my spiraling brain. 149 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 2: Now. 150 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: I don't have much of an update on Jennifer and 151 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: Aaron other than they are broken up. 152 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 3: Oh that is much of an outdo except like the 153 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 3: biggest that's impossible. 154 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: But my husband and I have heard that a time. 155 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 2: But my husband and I have heard that a time 156 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: or twenty and I don't really buy it. 157 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 3: Oh, like that they have been broken up. It's a 158 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 3: little bit of a red flag. They've been They've been 159 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: broken up twenty times, and it's news to you that 160 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: they're breaking up and having relationship problems. 161 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: Now, he gives such great advice, he's such a great guy. 162 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: And they've been on and off twenty times. It's okay, 163 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: you know, it's cool. 164 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: Oh feels like a red flag. Put in the comments 165 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: if you thought. 166 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 1: You saw a red flag just now, because I did 167 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: give it to us. I will go ahead and give 168 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: some clarification on some common questions, why do you think 169 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: you fed up? Honestly because of my husband's reaction. The 170 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: minute I realized he was breaking down and crying. In 171 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: my head, I was thinking, crap, crap, crap, I fed up. Yeah, 172 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: I just feel so horrible that it made him upset. 173 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: And I know it wasn't me, it was what Aaron 174 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,800 Speaker 1: did that upset him. Yeah, you're the messenger. No one's 175 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: trying to shoot you. But maybe it's the former Catholic 176 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: in me. I am programmed to look inWORD for blame. 177 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: Lol. 178 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: Is Aaron your husband's only friend? No, we actually have 179 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: a great group of friends who are very much our 180 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: chosen family. To Karen, then yeah, Aaron is his cousin 181 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: and the only family member that he's really close to. 182 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: We have a good relationship with his parents and siblings, 183 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: but they've never been close. He's also the youngest of 184 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 1: all the grandkids. His cousins are all at least five 185 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: years older than him, so there was never anyone in 186 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: his family he was close with growing up. He and 187 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: Aaron got closer in college and it felt like he 188 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: finally had that under person fit and it felt like 189 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: he finally had that person who understood their family that 190 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: he could confide in. 191 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 2: Why aren't you in therapy? Question mark? 192 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, probably a good idea. Yeah, Oh, don't 193 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 3: you worry. We are all in therapy. We're a deep therapy. 194 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 2: There we go. 195 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: When our baby died, we got into group therapy, couples therapy, 196 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: and individual therapy. Our couples therapist has been trying to 197 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: get us to focus on things to look forward to again, 198 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: simple things like going out to dinner, going on a trip, 199 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: et cetera. We are, unfortunately in a really negative headspace 200 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: these days, which I think is the other reason that 201 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: he had such a big reaction. Now another tiny update, which, 202 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:15,599 Speaker 1: given speaking updates, is a pretty big update. I have 203 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: almost nothing update. The relationship is over. My husband and 204 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: I both work from home. I tried my hardest to 205 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: avoid the subject about Aaron and Jennifer. Then while I 206 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,640 Speaker 1: was in the shower, he came in the bathroom and said, 207 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: by the way, yes, I am still pissed about Aaron. 208 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:33,839 Speaker 2: We went out to dinner last night. I did apologize 209 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: to him. 210 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 3: What what I been in the comments. If you think 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: that OP should have apologized, I don't think so. 212 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, hold on, This is a. 213 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: Red flag for Opie's husband. 214 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Not exactly, I'm sorry I told you, more like I'm 215 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: sorry that happened. 216 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: Okay, I feel like low key we're getting better at relationships. 217 00:09:55,160 --> 00:10:00,040 Speaker 1: We we relationships and predicting these stories so good. The 218 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: rains are a Reddit story predicting algorithm. 219 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,319 Speaker 2: At this point, I am a better therapist than most therapists. 220 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 2: He said, you have absolutely nothing to apologize for. I'm 221 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: just pissed off at erin paranoid me said, are you 222 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 2: sure you're not mad at me at all? 223 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,679 Speaker 1: My husband said, I am about one percent mad at 224 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: you because you probably shouldn't have told me after I 225 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 1: ate my gummies. 226 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: Oh she was doing weed gummies. Yeah. I took weed 227 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: gummies at night to sleep. Yeah. 228 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: I guess he had already taken a few by the 229 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: time I came upstairs, which man was probably gone, Yeah, 230 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: you gummies like you. I take eighth of one single gummy. 231 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: Bro I'm strong your gummies. 232 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: Oh ten milligram, yeah, said so much. I take a 233 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: cord ten ten is a lot. Still. Yeah, I did. 234 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: Tell him that there were more crappy things that Aaron 235 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 1: has done that I didn't get a chance to tell him. 236 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: Because he was so upset. There's more worms. Do we 237 00:10:58,800 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 2: spill it now? Bro? 238 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: I mean, and you spill one teapot, you might as 239 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 3: well like be the bull in the china shop, just 240 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 3: freaking break it all, everything. 241 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: Everything to pieces. I asked him if he wants to 242 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: know that stuff, which is smart. 243 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 3: I ask him if he wants to help him, Like 244 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: it's like it's like, oh, I shouldn't tell you. 245 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 2: It's like, bitch, tell me now. I know there's something 246 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,239 Speaker 2: to be told about a note. 247 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: To which he said, no, not now, maybe another night, okay, 248 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: so he don't want to strange. We enjoyed our steaks 249 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: and chilled forth the evening. I don't know what is 250 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: going to happen moving forward. He is very insistent that 251 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: he is not going to reach out to Aaron, and 252 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 1: Aaron still has no idea that Jennifer talked to us, 253 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: or that my husband knows all the crap that Aaron 254 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: has done. 255 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 3: I feel like the husband should talk to Aaron. Give 256 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: him a chance, give him a chance right now. We're 257 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 3: all in here, saland. 258 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: Like, and I also kind of just want to see 259 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 1: what he has to say, even even if you like, 260 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,839 Speaker 1: don't even going necessarily giving him a chance, Like. 261 00:11:54,040 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 3: But you right now, we are completely operating on a 262 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 3: one sided story. Yeah, it's all she's yeah, exactly, it's 263 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 3: that he said no, there's no he said zero. But 264 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 3: we don't even know what the other side is doing. 265 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 3: This is just one side. I feel like it would 266 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 3: be a good idea. I believe what is being said. However, 267 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 3: I do think it's a good idea to talk to 268 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 3: Aaron to hear his side. 269 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: So you're saying, don't believe that I was cooking. God, 270 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 1: this is the episode of Courtesies. 271 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: The episode of us both getting canceled. 272 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: All right, comment your favorite quote of the episode in 273 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: the comments below, and who said it and who said it? 274 00:12:35,960 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 2: People who aren't fans are just gonna be like these 275 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 2: these guys are terrible podcasters. 276 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: Aaron still has no idea Jennifer talked to us, or 277 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: that my husband knows all the crap Aeron is done. 278 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: Maybe he will wake up tomorrow in a different timeline 279 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: where no bad things ever happen. We can all dream. Right, 280 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: and now we're getting into some relevant comments. First one 281 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: from these are some thick relevant comments. I cheated, I 282 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: looked ahead, I looked ahead. These are some thick relevant comments. Well, 283 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: this one's from it JP W Rana. But first, do 284 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: we want to do any breakdowns? 285 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: I feel like we've broken down sufficiently through we have 286 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: broken down the whole thing. Yeah yeah, but I'm down 287 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 3: to keep going into it. You did not mess up. 288 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 3: In fact, you did a very good thing. 289 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: Be one being honest with your spouse and two not 290 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: delaying in telling your spouse. Is there a reason your 291 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: husband can't make new friends? 292 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: Dang ye? I mean we don't even know. Your husband's 293 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 2: such a loser. 294 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you think your your husband will ever not 295 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: be a friendless. 296 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: But I thought he had friends. 297 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: I thought, like that's what Opie says, like, Oh yeah, 298 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 3: he has friends, it's just his cousins is like one 299 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: of his closest. 300 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying is this comment. I feel like 301 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 2: this comment is extrapolated like a little timmy fuck. Let's 302 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: keep seeing what happens. 303 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: I used to be an introvert, but learns to be 304 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: an extrovert, so I know it's easier and less effort 305 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,960 Speaker 1: to get to know other people. 306 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 2: OPI. 307 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,360 Speaker 1: We have a great group of friends that we absolutely love. 308 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: My husband doesn't really have anyone in his family that 309 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: he is close to. I think Aaron made him feel 310 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: still connected to his family. While we have a cordial 311 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: relationship with his parents and siblings, he never had a 312 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: sibling bond. One of his brothers is an addict and 313 00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 1: the other is a born again Christian. So he doesn't 314 00:14:07,679 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: feel comfortable talking about the difficult stuff with them, but 315 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: he could with Aaron, and Aaron knows what their families are. 316 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 3: Like. 317 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, It's just someone that I feel like you could 318 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: be like real with. 319 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 3: And you have like a connection that goes all the 320 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 3: way back, Like I feel like that with like Christian. 321 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: Like I've known Christian since I was five. I can 322 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 3: pull on basically every memory, every memory that I've ever 323 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: had with him. 324 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 2: You know, have you confronted him about his happy endings? 325 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: I have it yet, do but I really should. We 326 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 2: gonna have Christian on the show, bro. He has some 327 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: crazy stories. Really. Yeah. 328 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: The next comment comes from arm the phototonic canon. Does 329 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 1: he not trust you, Opie? He was more referring to 330 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: his immediate family in that moment. Yeah, his brothers, his dad, 331 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: his cousins. Unfortunately, there is a lot of drama in 332 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: his family. Aaron is the only family member. He's really 333 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: close to Solo. Solo is dead, says. My issue is 334 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: that she did. My issue is did she think she 335 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: was telling you this in confidence? If so, maybe you 336 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: weren't supposed to share this information with your husband. A 337 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: lot of people have been asking me why I told 338 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: my husband, so I will just clarify. Basically, Jennifer called 339 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: me and asked if she could come over and chat 340 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: with us about Aaron. She specifically said she wanted to 341 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: talk with someone who knows Aaron well. She alluded to 342 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: the relationship issues and the fact that she wanted to 343 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: come over on a random work day unprompted is odd. 344 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: I had a bad feeling Aaron had done something crap. 345 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 1: I got off the phone and told my husband Jennifer 346 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: was coming over. He had the same thought I did. 347 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: They've had an on and off relationship for years, so 348 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: I was hoping and praying it was just something stupid. 349 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: My husband then asked me if My husband then asked 350 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 2: me if he should be a part of the conversation. 351 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: I said no, that maybe it would be better if 352 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: it was just the girls. Smart. 353 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: When Jennifer got there, she asked if my husband was 354 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: going to chat with us in a should we wait 355 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: for him kind of way. So at the end of 356 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: conversation was it wasn't weird for me to go up 357 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 1: and tell him what we had talked about. When he 358 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: came upstairs, he said, well, what is it, to which 359 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: I said, it's cheating. It really fell to me Jennifer 360 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: wanted both of us in the conversation, especially since my 361 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: husband and Aaron were so close. I may have been wrong, 362 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: but I was trying to give her the space to 363 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: be open. What do we think about that decision? 364 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 3: I mean, I think it would have been slightly better 365 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 3: if it was explicitly asked. But I do think the 366 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 3: implicit thought, like the implication a married couple unless you 367 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 3: explicitly say, do not tell your partner that is shared. 368 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Also, like with Opie's context, assuming that like she's accurately 369 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 1: describing it, it seems like Jennifer was totally open to 370 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: op Aaron being there in the first place. 371 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 3: Yah, Yeah, that's what it seems like. So I could 372 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 3: see maybe that not being true, but that's what it 373 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 3: seems like. 374 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, it does seem like that. Onto the update, after 375 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: Jennifer confide it in me, my husband had this meltdown 376 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: and I panic typed on Reddit. I sat on everything 377 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: Jennifer told me for a few days. At the end 378 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: of the day, she told me she didn't want to 379 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: break up, and I can't tell her to break up 380 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: with someone. And my husband, while all pissed, hasn't revealed 381 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: to Aaron. 382 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 2: We all know the crap that he has done. So 383 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: the only person out of the loop is Erin. Yikes, 384 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 2: he's too busy like getting happy and they got to 385 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: be involved, and he's still happy to living in his wonderland. 386 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, But I realized her self esteem must be low, 387 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: lower than Aaron's tank. 388 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 2: That was me. 389 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: He said that, no, no, no, I said that that 390 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: she is willing to stay with someone that treats her 391 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: like craft. So I had my mission build up Jennifer's 392 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: self esteem so that she will break up with Aaron 393 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: on her own. 394 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 3: That is a cute idea, like, I'm just gonna make 395 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 3: you feel so good about yourself that you couldn't possibly 396 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:43,920 Speaker 3: stay with him. 397 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:45,639 Speaker 2: But I do have some news. They broke out. They 398 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 2: got a breakout. That right, it works. 399 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,000 Speaker 1: I sent Jennifer these two books someone recommended about loving yourself. 400 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 1: I am not a very crunchy person. But Jennifer is. 401 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: The books were a little too Inner Godness and Mother 402 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Gaya for me. But both books are women talking about 403 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: experiencing abuse and rising above it to become career woman. 404 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: It reminded me of Jennifer crying to me and saying, 405 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: I feel like all I do is support his dreams? 406 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: When is it my turn? 407 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: Facts? Preach big facts? 408 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: Which broke my heart when she said that. So I 409 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: sent her the books and wrote her note saying that 410 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: I loved her and I wanted her to realize how 411 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 1: amazing she is. 412 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 2: That is a good friend. That is a great friend. Wow. 413 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 2: And you can't ever tell someone to break up with 414 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 2: their partner. 415 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: You can't. But you can support them. Yeah, you can 416 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 3: support them, I mean you can, you can. 417 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 2: I feel like very rarely is it a good idea? Yeah, 418 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: unless there may be like tell me what to do, 419 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 2: like tell me, but. 420 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 3: That I don't think that's healthy either, because then you're 421 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 3: deciding their life for them. I think what you can 422 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 3: do is you can like and also you never have 423 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 3: the full context of a relationship ever. But what about 424 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: playing god? And that's true, that's true. I want to 425 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 3: smite those ants, yeah, what about destruction? 426 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: After that, she kicked Aaron out of the bedroom and 427 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: made him sleep in a separate room in her house. 428 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: She told him that if he wanted to continue their relationship, 429 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: and since he refused to pute, and since he refused 430 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: to prove he wasn't at a massage parlor, she asked 431 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: to see his bill statements for that day and he 432 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: would not show her. 433 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: If he wanted back in her bed, then he needed. 434 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: To agree to couples counseling, which of course he didn't 435 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: want to do. He kept begging to sleep back in 436 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: the bed with her. When she told me, I commended 437 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: her for putting up a good boundary and encouraged her 438 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: to stick to it. 439 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 3: I can't believe the bar is so low that she's 440 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 3: just like, stop getting happy endings. 441 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: And he's like, nah, babes, you want you want me relaxed? 442 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 2: And do you not want me to be happy? Are you? 443 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: Are you trying to steal my happiness? Are you a 444 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 1: happiness thief? 445 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 3: I think I think that is what Aaron just sounds like, 446 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: more of like a cutbag since like throughout this. 447 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: Pod, yeah, he's he's not the one, He's the he's 448 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 1: not the one. A couple of weeks ago, Aaron and 449 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: Jennifer came into town and met us for lunch. My 450 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: husband and Aaron went out, and Jennifer and I went 451 00:19:58,880 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: out alone. 452 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: I feel like put ic you in the comments if 453 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 2: you know what's common. 454 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: Jennifer was commenting about them having issues, but she still 455 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: won't let him back in her bed. Basically, he started 456 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 1: doing petty crap like changing all the passwords to the 457 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,760 Speaker 1: streaming services. 458 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 2: Wow, that's that's the way to get your relationship back 459 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 2: on the right tracks, buddy. 460 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: It has no one heard of one, two, three movies 461 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: The Goats, The Goats, The Goats Popcorn Dime Crazy Meaning 462 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 3: is sponsored by that. 463 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: But then he made a romantic dinner for her the 464 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 2: next night. 465 00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 3: But it's not about the grand gestures. It's about the 466 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,159 Speaker 3: like the small moments, you know. 467 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: But it's he put the rose petals, he said, baby, 468 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 2: I love you. Dude. 469 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 3: He probably just took those rose petals from the massage parlor, exactly, dude. 470 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: It was cheaper, yeah, cheaper. I wanted to save money. 471 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: But the babe, I'm trying to save money for you 472 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: out here. 473 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 2: You never were you never guess where I got these 474 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: essential oils. Why do you think I'm smelling so good? 475 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: They were real essential for me. 476 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: I started putting the bug in her head that Aaron 477 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: needed to move out. I carefully worded it and just said, 478 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to break up, but he 479 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: needs to get out of your house. Then I sent 480 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: her a podcast episode, this one about a woman leaving 481 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: her cheating X. Not a subtle but I thought I 482 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: could push a little here. Last night we got the call. 483 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 2: Aaron called my husband and said, Jennifer and I broke up. Yes, 484 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 2: it's yes, it's permanent this time. Yes, we've been waiting 485 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: for this moment. 486 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: Then Jennifer texted me saying that she wanted to get 487 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: back down just killing. 488 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I was about to be You're rubbing 489 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,160 Speaker 3: and tugging to me in all the wrong. 490 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: Way, right, pulling you to and fro. 491 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: Then Jennifer texted saying that Aaron was officially kicked out 492 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: and he is living with a friend. 493 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: They had a big blowout because they share a music account, 494 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 2: and he deleted all of her playlists. 495 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: So petty, that's petty, is fun So petty. She even 496 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: left the house and had her brother and Mother's Day. 497 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: While he got all of his stuff, he of course 498 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: had to be petty on his way out and took 499 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: all her remotes. 500 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: This guy sucked. 501 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 3: The red flags have been endless since we started, just endless, 502 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 3: endless and endless. 503 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: How do we get They literally like Aaron is the 504 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: greatest guy ever, like my husband's bestine. 505 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 2: I know. 506 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: That's what's crazy is they thought he was so good 507 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 3: and like, just the lies are unfolding and like it's 508 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 3: like a. 509 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Shit flavored onion, just like. 510 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 3: The layers and layers you dig deeper, the shittier and 511 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: shittier he is. 512 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 2: Aaran is like an onion. What makes me cry? 513 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: I told my husband and he immediately overnighted her new 514 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: remotes and new streaming services for her to use. 515 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 2: That's nice. 516 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: They still have their finances tangled up a bit, but 517 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: hopefully she can get that undone quickly. She appreciated that 518 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: my husband and I support her, even though we are 519 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 1: Aaron's family. She's really hoping my husband can help Aaron 520 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,199 Speaker 1: get his crap together. Unfortunately, I think my husband is 521 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: really done with Aaron. We've been going through our own grief, 522 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: counseling and issues with my family and he just doesn't 523 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 1: have room for Aaron's byes. 524 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, Aaron seems like a little bit too much drama, right, 525 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 2: He told me. 526 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 1: What disappoints him the most is that he is rethinking 527 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: every conversation he and Aaron had. At my husband's bachelor party, 528 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: Aaron went missing for an hour. He told us and Jennifer. 529 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: It was because he just couldn't find his car. 530 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,680 Speaker 2: He just he just didn't know where it is. Man 531 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: was driving stick shift. 532 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,360 Speaker 1: He was He was reaching his pants, trying to trying 533 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: to click the button to you know, beat the car. 534 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 2: You know, just he couldn't. He was lost. Oh can 535 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: you shift for me? Sorry? Sorry? The stick shift is 536 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 2: skin flavored? 537 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: Skin flavored? Yeah, Oh, let me do it the proper way. 538 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: Sam's tongue operated stick shift car. I'm glad that you 539 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: totally rolled with that one. 540 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 2: Out here for it. Skin flavored. I love skin flavor shift. 541 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: Ford home of a skin flavor stick shift. Lack of real. 542 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 1: American Now, knowing everything we know, he was probably just 543 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: getting a prostitute. 544 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: He told us. 545 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: Jennifer asked him to buy a van when they first 546 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: started dating so that they had enough room for three kids. 547 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: But now we know, Jennifer never asked him to do that. 548 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: He just showed up with a van and a stuff 549 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: and moved his ass on in. Oh wow, he just 550 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: moved himself in again, like in the beginning of the relationship, 551 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: how did we. 552 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 2: Froucking like a hurricane? 553 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: But how did we not see that he had so 554 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 3: many red flags that begin with like how did we 555 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 3: think he was. 556 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 2: A good guy? 557 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 1: Well, Opie and her husband never knew. They just now 558 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: found out. 559 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 2: How did they not know? 560 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: Because it's not like someone like like, as we've said 561 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 3: million times, you have had to see these red flags, yes, previously, 562 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 3: And how did they not see all of these things? 563 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 2: He was doing something? Yeah? 564 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,879 Speaker 1: I told him. However, he wants to move forward with 565 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: Aaron is his decision. Aaron has been there for us 566 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: during some really awful times, and I would love a 567 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: scenario where Aaron would be honest and my husband could 568 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: help him in some way. Ad is up to my husband. 569 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: Even my therapist said to me, do you have room 570 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: for this right now? And the clear answer is no. 571 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 2: That's a great question. Do you have not that? Like, 572 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: do you care? Do you have for this right now? 573 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: That is a great question. That's a great question, look 574 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 2: us evolving as internet therapist. WHOA, that's a great question. 575 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 2: Do you have room for this right now? Because it's 576 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: not like you don't care about someone at all, it's 577 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: just like sometimes you're too much going on in your life. Damn, 578 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: that's a great question. 579 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: I do hope at the end of the day this 580 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: breakup is permanent, and I really hope Aaron and Jennifer 581 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: stay single for a while. 582 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 2: He too, Wow, what a saga? Right? What is saga? 583 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: I'm happy where it ended up though, ended in a 584 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: happy ending. Okay, uh yeah, you killed that one. Okay, 585 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: I'm so glad that have ad. That was so good. 586 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 2: We ended in a good spot. What do we think? 587 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: Aaron questions The real question, that real question is what 588 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: should Aaron do or what should Opie's husband do about 589 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: his relationship with Aaron. 590 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 3: I mean, it sounds like it's already kind of like 591 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: set up. I think he's not talking to him right 592 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: now because he can't deal with the shit. 593 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 2: What if he reaches out and tells him I'm done 594 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 2: with you. What you think taking you to the curve? 595 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 2: Opie's husband should tell Aaron. I'm asking because that's the 596 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 2: real question. 597 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: That's what I said, I feel like a couple updates ago. 598 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: I still think that Opie's husband needs to have to 599 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 3: sit down talk with Aaron. Yeah, because I think if 600 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 3: they've known each other that long, they deserve a man, 601 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 3: a man, a heart to heart, a lip to lip 602 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: in speaking terms, you know, happy ending to have any 603 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 3: time baby. I do think they need to talk to 604 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 3: each other. But after that point, I think Opie's husband 605 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 3: definitely is like, I like that, I don't need this 606 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 3: in my life right now. But I think like doing 607 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: like a friend breakup and saying like hey, this is 608 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: like like laying it all on the table. 609 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 2: I do think that is probably. 610 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: Something important to closure talk, closure talk, but I don't know. 611 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: I could be wrong. Let me know. 612 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: Put your answers in the comments. What would you do 613 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 3: if you were Opie's husband? Would you talk to Aaron? 614 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,199 Speaker 3: Or would you just kind of ghost? Put your answers 615 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 3: in the comments. But John, hmmm, I think we got 616 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:51,880 Speaker 3: another story. 617 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: We have one. Let's get into it.