WEBVTT - Ep. 69: 2024 Draft Class Superlatives | Jags A.M. Podcast 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.079 Welcome to jag Zamine Kay Nannie Stevens. The twenty twenty 0:00:20.120 --> 0:00:21.960 four draft is now behind us. Who get some new 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:24.720 players headed to Jacksonville and a whole lot to talk about. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:27.040 Do have some breaking news off the top here though, 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:30.600 as a list of unsigned free agents as well as 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:33.159 some cuts to the team wide receivers. A Jones is 0:00:33.200 --> 0:00:35.680 being cut as well as kicker Joey Slide. So, Brian, 0:00:35.680 --> 0:00:37.800 that news coming out Brian Thomas Junior was their first 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:39.360 draft picks. That means they mean to cut to the 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:41.160 wide receiver room as well. Well, that made sense because 0:00:41.200 --> 0:00:45.280 you're going to need to keep Devereux and de borrow 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.920 the Dune from Baltimore as a receiver because that's the 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:51.240 position that he plays as well. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:52.880 And it's just a numbers game. 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:55.960 The Jaguars will save about five million dollars against the 0:00:55.960 --> 0:00:59.200 cap in twenty twenty four, not that they needed to, John, 0:00:59.200 --> 0:00:59.959 they've got lots of room. 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.160 Well it's yeah, it's uh. I don't love it. I mean, 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.520 I like Zay and I like what he brought. I 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:09.640 think it would have been good to have that option, 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:14.240 but in the cap era, when you're trying to save money, 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.840 roll out the future. It is a you know, it's 0:01:17.880 --> 0:01:19.360 not a sign of our times. We've been in this 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:22.040 time forever. But it is a function of the salary cap. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:28.440 You know, I let's not forget before he leaves, big, big, 0:01:28.560 --> 0:01:31.319 big contributor to that twenty two teams a Jones. It 0:01:31.400 --> 0:01:33.119 sort of shows you how tough it is to stay 0:01:33.120 --> 0:01:37.039 in this league at the age that he's at flourishing 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:39.679 member of this team twenty two, flourishing member in twenty three. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:42.479 Couple injuries, it's a tough leak. 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:44.759 Well, he left his memories too, right the two point 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:46.960 conversion against Baltimore in twenty twenty two that gave them 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:49.400 that win, that started the winning streak, and he had 0:01:49.440 --> 0:01:51.200 a big one in Tennessee a couple of weeks later 0:01:51.240 --> 0:01:53.160 where he just tight roped that. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:54.480 Was caught by the pylon camp. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:57.960 He leaves a lot of great memories in the fans' 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:00.400 minds if they think about what's a Joe might put 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:00.760 that team? 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.960 Good win, healthy, tough year last year, so roster casualty 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:07.680 as of this point, we're going to bring our guests now, though. 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.639 Trevor Sikhma from Pro Football Focus, of course, their lead 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:12.240 draft analyst, Tart, Thanks for joining us. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:13.160 We got some news there. 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.079 We do want to talk about our first round draft pick, 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.720 Brian Thomas Junior, of course, and what that addition to 0:02:17.760 --> 0:02:19.200 the offense is going to mean for Trevor. 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:20.600 Yeah. 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:21.959 You know, it's funny. 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:23.560 When I saw this pick, I was like, Hey, this 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.119 is a really good pick, and then I looked. 0:02:24.960 --> 0:02:26.720 Up, Oh, I think they're going to be more vertical 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:27.280 on offense. 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:30.360 And actually the checks were pretty dang vertical last year 0:02:30.560 --> 0:02:32.680 in their offense. When you look at you know, big 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.639 time throws, total yards, total attempts, passing. 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:39.040 Grade on throws that were twenty or more. 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:41.280 Yards down the field, they were top ten in all 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:43.920 of those categories. And so Brian Thomas Junior and the 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:46.920 addition of Gabe Davison free agency, that just puts their 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:49.400 foot on the gas even more for that being an 0:02:49.440 --> 0:02:52.120 identity of their offense, Trevor Lawrence ha said a couple 0:02:52.160 --> 0:02:54.840 of four thousand yard seasons, but I genuinely think that 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.240 with their offense now, the skill set that they have 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:00.000 at wide receiver and that mentality that we saw from 0:02:59.880 --> 0:03:03.680 twenty twenty two, this could be a potential five thousand 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.000 yard passing season for Trevor Lawrence if he is fully healthy, 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:07.160 because we already know that's what they. 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:07.480 Want to do. 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.480 Now they just have the pieces to do that even better. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:12.840 So like the draft pick, especially now that I went 0:03:12.880 --> 0:03:15.040 and look back and said, this is exactly where they 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.440 were going, it's the type of player that allows them 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:19.239 to do that even more and more successfully. 0:03:19.600 --> 0:03:22.280 Trevor has offensive line taken a step. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:27.040 Back in terms of value for wide receivers because it 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.840 was a great offensive line draft and the Jaguars went receiver, 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.800 which it didn't seem like they needed to fill as 0:03:34.400 --> 0:03:38.560 significantly as I thought offensive line. Or is Brian Thomas 0:03:38.680 --> 0:03:40.480 just that special that he couldn't pass on it? 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:41.240 Now? 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.000 I think that it's a little bit of a combination 0:03:43.080 --> 0:03:43.400 of both. 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:45.800 Right, Trent balk there the general manager, I think throughout 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:47.760 his general manager career, whether it's been in Jackson Mill 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:49.480 or his time in San Francisco. 0:03:49.040 --> 0:03:51.080 Like he's going to gravitate towards athletes. 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.000 I mean the Mason Smith pick in the second round 0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:55.120 is just more evidence to that. But when you look 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:58.040 at Brian Thomas junior, the size man six or three 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:01.400 two ten pounds, four three three speed, I mean that's 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:04.920 just pretty rare for that size and speed combination, so 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:08.000 you gravitate towards that. But I do think that we 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.680 are in an age where picking wide receiver, even over 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:14.800 something is what we thought is pivotal as offensive tackle 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:17.520 or offensive line in general. It is more common because 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:20.440 we are seeing such superstars come out from the receiver position, 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:22.200 and I think that goes all the way down to 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.360 the grassroots level, right You're seeing more seven on seven camps. 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.880 You know, these guys are getting involved in skill position 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.520 work way earlier in junior high, in high school, and 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:34.000 you're just developing more wide receivers nowadays. So there's just 0:04:34.040 --> 0:04:36.840 a ton of these great skill position players that are 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:38.920 coming through year after year. So it's a little bit 0:04:38.960 --> 0:04:41.720 of Okay, Brian Thomas and his unique athletic ability at 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:43.640 his size couldn't really pass that up. 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.240 But also it is just the fact that. 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.960 Wide receiver more often, like you said, is getting valued 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:53.479 as a premium position like pass protectors, like pass rushers. 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:55.320 So we're seeing that more and more. And obviously this 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:56.920 traf was a good state before. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:05:00.760 And the Jaguars obviously focused on special teams a lot 0:05:00.880 --> 0:05:05.040 late because of the new kickoff rules. Did you see 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.919 that as a major trend around the NFL, and it 0:05:08.000 --> 0:05:10.719 seems to me like the league is really going to 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:12.279 be at a point this year of trying to figure 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:14.560 out what these new rules mean. They sort of think 0:05:14.600 --> 0:05:16.839 they know and they're going to experiment with it, but 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.479 it might be a year or so before they really 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:21.200 figure out how best to take advantage of them. 0:05:21.680 --> 0:05:23.600 Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch this year, And 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.720 by fun, I mean some teams are maybe gonna be 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.080 a little disastrous and other teams are absolutely. 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.440 Going to hit a home run. And every team is 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:31.120 trying to take that third phase. 0:05:30.839 --> 0:05:34.160 Of the game and make it into a plus for them, right, 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.320 something that's going to be very important. We've heard over 0:05:36.320 --> 0:05:39.159 the years pass that old field position matters so much, 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.080 and that's such an important part of the game. It's 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.760 why kickers and punters and kick returners have been drafted 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:46.120 decently highly over the last couple of years, at least 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:46.960 every now and then. 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:48.240 But this is totally different. 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.640 Now you have an opportunity to pick a totally different 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:53.960 type of kick returner that could really be advantageous to 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.280 the game. I mean, you guys, know, everybody out there 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.760 watches the games over the last couple of years, every 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.360 single kickoff, they're just through in the back of the 0:06:01.480 --> 0:06:03.400 end zone. I mean, that's how every drive is going 0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:05.039 to start, right at the twenty five yard line. 0:06:05.080 --> 0:06:06.440 Now it's a little different. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.720 You have an opportunity to really make a difference and 0:06:08.760 --> 0:06:10.960 flip the field a little bit more in your favor 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:13.040 with guys who can see the field. 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:13.320 A little bit more. 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:13.520 Right. 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.440 Kick returners used to just be all right, let's put 0:06:15.480 --> 0:06:18.200 our fastest guy back there, have them receive the ball 0:06:18.400 --> 0:06:20.560 and run as fast as he can, and hopefully our 0:06:20.600 --> 0:06:22.400 blocking team will be able to get guys blocked up. 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:24.440 Maybe we can get a rushing lane and hit something 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:28.159 up the sideline. But now, with the contact window being 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:32.240 much closer together, kick return is much more about. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:33.040 Seeing the field. 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.600 Like it's almost about running back vision at this point, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:37.680 you know, what are you in space? So you're gonna 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:39.799 look at a lot of these numbers, these one cut backs, 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:43.080 these shifty wide receivers, these guys that make players miss 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.200 in open space. That's actually going to be prioritized, in 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:47.200 my opinion. 0:06:47.160 --> 0:06:48.559 More than just straight line speed. 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:50.039 You want to be able to hit the home run, 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.280 but shoot if you can get an extra ten, five, 0:06:53.400 --> 0:06:55.800 even five yards on a kickoff return because you just 0:06:55.839 --> 0:06:58.640 see the field very well, you see the blocking very well. 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:02.240 That is incredible advantageous at a consistent level. So it's 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.880 going to be very interesting to see how these teams 0:07:04.960 --> 0:07:06.640 kind of navigate those new kickoff roles. 0:07:07.320 --> 0:07:09.240 Trevor, when we look at this class as a whole 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.760 for the Jaguars, Trent Balky definitely went for some size, 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.680 some physicality. That's something he talked about at the end 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:16.880 of last season. They weren't big enough, they weren't strong enough. 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:18.640 You see a lot of six to six guys. You 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.000 see a lot of three hundred plus pounders, maybe not 0:07:21.200 --> 0:07:23.600 developed yet. But he definitely went for that, Let's get 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.400 these big people in here and try to train them up. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.560 Is that advantageous by the numbers or is this kind 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:31.200 of a boomer bust with some of these guys. 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:33.800 Well, I think it's hell boom or bust. 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:35.680 Anytime you're talking about a draft pick, right, I think 0:07:35.720 --> 0:07:37.960 sometimes that's a little unfair when you talk about general 0:07:38.000 --> 0:07:40.960 managers or making selections, you just go, oh, this guy's 0:07:40.960 --> 0:07:43.160 a boomer bust. There's no such thing as a guarantee 0:07:43.280 --> 0:07:45.480 at the NFL level when you're talking about college kids 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:47.640 going to the pros. So everything's got a little bit 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.360 of a risk to it. But certainly when you look 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.080 at this draft for the Jaguars, at least for the 0:07:51.080 --> 0:07:54.040 first couple of picks. Gil Brian Thomas Junior, very good 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:56.680 vertical threat, and I mentioned that unique size and speed 0:07:56.720 --> 0:07:59.680 combination there from him. But you know, can he develop 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:03.160 and do a full, overall, well rounded wide receiver. 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.320 I think that is a question. 0:08:04.400 --> 0:08:06.080 Now he's a younger guy, so you expect that he's 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.600 gonna get better, but really good off of a vertical plane, 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:11.119 but can he developed more nuanced in his route running 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.480 canny diversify his routree more than just those vertical routes 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:15.840 and things off of a vertical stem. 0:08:15.840 --> 0:08:16.800 That's what you're looking to see. 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:18.640 So there's a little bit of risk there if he's 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:19.920 just a vertical wide receiver. 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:22.040 Yeah, okay, it was picked a little bit high, but 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:22.560 even for. 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.040 Just that, I like I said, the size, speed combinations incredible. 0:08:26.120 --> 0:08:29.040 Mason Smith total projection, right, I mean, five star, number 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:32.000 one overall recruit at one point is able to play 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.760 as a true directman at LSU gets injured, Tears' his 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.840 acl which is a couple of plays into twenty twenty two, 0:08:36.880 --> 0:08:38.680 and then this past year in twenty twenty three, you 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:40.600 could just tell there was a combination of he had 0:08:40.640 --> 0:08:43.320 not played a lot of football and he's still trust 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:45.400 in that knee. Now he was able to play and 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:47.880 be fully healthy, which is good, but he's definitely a 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.640 projection there Jerry and Jones. I like from him because 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:52.959 over the last couple of years he sort of struggled 0:08:53.000 --> 0:08:55.160 as an outside receiver, but then Florida State moved him 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.640 into the slot and he was excellent elite coverage grade 0:08:57.640 --> 0:09:01.920 in our metric system. He was a top tier Select 0:09:01.920 --> 0:09:03.640 grou slot receiver that we had in this class. And 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:06.240 I also like the addition to Jordan Jefferson and Javon 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.000 Foster as well. Those guys I think have a lot 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:10.480 of experience to them good depth players, and so that's 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.199 sort of how I saw those first couple of pictures 0:09:12.200 --> 0:09:12.720 for the Jags. 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:15.760 Every second'm a Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst. Thank 0:09:15.760 --> 0:09:17.240 you for joining us. You appreciate it. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:18.160 Appreciate it. 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:18.440 Guys. 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.559 All right, stay with us here on jagsam coming back. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.199 We're gonna go over some superlatives for the twenty twenty 0:09:24.200 --> 0:09:36.920 four NFL Draft class. After the break, Move the. 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:37.840 Freight, Move the Freight. 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.360 Magellan Transportation voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You 0:09:41.360 --> 0:09:46.880 can apply on line at Mageo Logistics dot com. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:48.360 Hey, Jerry, how you doing, man? 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:50.160 Good? 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:53.120 Hey, congratulations, We're just gonna bring you right down the road. 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:57.679 Let's play bowl there. 0:09:58.120 --> 0:09:58.600 Let's go. 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:06.840 Congratulations man, Here's here's here's our gimp Okay, congratulations. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:22.440 That a couple of party. 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:24.640 Hey, remember we talked about the mall. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:36.600 Congratulations man, Man, never get sick of hearing those calls. 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:39.440 That's third round pick Jarry and Jenkins out of Florida State. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:41.439 Kind of left Trent Bok on Red. 0:10:41.280 --> 0:10:41.960 Bear as well. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.080 We didn't get a little excited at the party. But 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:47.040 we love those calls. We love you know, dreams coming 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.880 true for all of these draft picks, and it's exciting 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:50.840 to get the new players in. 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.880 Here, you guys. Yeah, And he's an intriguing guy. I 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:59.040 talked to h the four state secondary coach yesterday. Played 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.240 at a very high level out side. They moved him 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.800 inside last year because they felt like his experience and 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:07.120 his awareness inside, which you have to have to play 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.280 the nickel. Really took him to a different level. It's 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.959 what they need. I mean, he has the skill to 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:17.320 eventually move outside. It certainly sounds to me like he 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.440 will be the guy to beat in terms of the nickel. 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:22.760 It's a tough thing to move inside as a rookie 0:11:22.800 --> 0:11:25.679 in the NFL and play the nickel. But you know 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:29.839 everything you hear about the kid. Great kid overcame a 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.839 lot of adversity early, which leads you to believe that 0:11:33.880 --> 0:11:35.959 he can overcome what he needs to overcome to get 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:39.240 into the lineup. Great second day draft store. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:40.560 Yeah, and they spent a lot of time with him 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.199 when he was at the local pro day because he 0:11:42.240 --> 0:11:44.000 didn't work out. He stood on his combine in his 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.480 Florida State Pro day. And I talked to Doug yesterday 0:11:46.480 --> 0:11:48.600 about him, and he sees his immediate contributor on special teams. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.320 I mean, steps right in and it's a guy who 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:52.520 can be one of your better special teams coverage guys 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:53.440 right out at the gate. 0:11:53.960 --> 0:11:55.520 Let's talk about some of our guys. We're going to 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.920 do some superlatives, like we're in high school once again. 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:00.000 We'll go over this twenty twenty four draft class with 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:01.760 start out with the first round pick, because why not, 0:12:02.080 --> 0:12:04.800 Ryan Thomas, you and you're most likely to succeed because 0:12:05.200 --> 0:12:06.920 the first round pick, so you better succeed. 0:12:07.440 --> 0:12:08.079 But as we. 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:10.400 Mentioned, I mean, this is a great threat for Trevor, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:12.680 and I think it's nice to mention as well. I mean, 0:12:12.920 --> 0:12:14.960 a young player that can grow with Trevor, right, Like 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.040 there's they brought in some veteran receivers when they for 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:19.120 you know, when Doug came in and kind of overhauled 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.680 everything for Trevor to work with. But now it's someone 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:23.439 that you have locked up for the next couple of 0:12:23.480 --> 0:12:24.559 years to grow with Trevor. 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:27.040 Really long arms and big hands. I mean you see 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.040 that when you see him reaching for it, which allows 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.640 him to go out and get that fifty to fifty ball. Clearly, 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:35.480 Johnny also has great body control because you see him 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:36.960 in the corner of the end zone or down the 0:12:37.000 --> 0:12:40.480 sideline with a guy in coverage and still making the catch, 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.120 which will be great on third downs. 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.440 Right to be able to keep this team on the field, be. 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.600 Able to have to throw to a guy and know 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:49.960 that he can elevate and go get it. 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.840 Yeah, he has every tool. The thing that you hear 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.320 about him needs to develop or out running. Trevor talked 0:12:55.360 --> 0:12:58.760 about it. That's big in the NFL. I mean it's 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.760 hard in the NFL to just be great based on 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.600 physical tools, which he has, so his task to reach. 0:13:06.760 --> 0:13:09.200 You know, the thing said about him was outside the 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.040 top three. He had the skill set to be a one. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:15.800 The development part will be the key for him bare 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:18.840 minimum this year. He comes in and strains the defense 0:13:18.920 --> 0:13:21.600 and gives them, you know that magic for the thing 0:13:21.640 --> 0:13:24.360 that I like, You've got Christian, You've got gave Davis, 0:13:24.360 --> 0:13:27.920 who here's a great kid, and Evan Ingram. He doesn't 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:30.559 have to be the guy. I think a lot of 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.360 Jaguars and first round receivers in the past have failed 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:38.160 because they had to be the guy. Day one gives. 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:39.800 Him a little leeway to learn as he comes in. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.200 We're gonna talk about Mason Smith Knacks. I actually got 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.360 to talk to Ethan Wad during this process when we 0:13:44.360 --> 0:13:46.720 were doing draft picks and told me a little bit 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:48.960 about I'm gonna project here and call him the best 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:51.000 comeback story because if they hit, which is what they're 0:13:51.000 --> 0:13:54.480 hoping for, he's dealt with an acl tair and then 0:13:54.559 --> 0:13:56.800 last year said he didn't really feel that comfortable, but 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.000 ethan waan on the front office is hoping that when 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:00.920 they get him in the building can work with them. 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:01.880 Yeah. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.240 I think as you watch the tape from this past season. 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.120 Early in the season, he was still kind of recovering 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.480 from that knee injury, but each week the tape got 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:11.040 better and better. And it also helps that we have 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:15.800 his defensive coordinator from college, Matthouse here in the staff 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:17.960 room as well, that I can really speak to his 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:19.000 ability and his character. 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:23.200 John that Matt House connection, the new inside linebackers coach, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.640 was the defensive coordinator at LSU last year, and he 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:27.400 got a couple of his guys in the building for sure. 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:32.480 Yeah, I'm sure that helps when you're investing in a 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.040 player to be able to turn into a guy. So 0:14:34.120 --> 0:14:36.800 what kind of kid is this? You know, beyond everything 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:39.360 they're telling me, you got somebody in the building they 0:14:39.360 --> 0:14:41.480 can tell you, Yeah, I'm not BS and you. This 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.480 kid's x y Z. You know, Brian said it all weekend. 0:14:45.480 --> 0:14:49.600 This kid has every trait. You're taking a guy later 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:54.360 in the second round who has a first round pick potential. 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.440 If everything goes right, is it boom or bust I guess, 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.480 but I completely agree with what Trevor said. I've never 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:03.240 seen a draft pick in the NFL. He's not boom 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:07.240 or bus so crystal bold business you take traits. He 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:13.400 certainly looks like he can be that tall, long, dominant 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:17.640 defensive tackle that when those guys hit, they have the 0:15:17.680 --> 0:15:21.760 potential to be core defensive players and impact in a 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:22.240 lot of ways. 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:24.840 So the first thought that I had when they drafted. 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:28.480 Him was that the Titans took Jeffrey Simmons out of 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:31.120 Mississippi State a few years back and he had torn 0:15:31.160 --> 0:15:33.040 his ACL and he knew he wasn't going to be 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:35.840 ready until his second year, and that has paid off 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.320 in spades for them. This guy has the same physical 0:15:39.360 --> 0:15:43.080 profile as Jeffrey Simmons as Chris Jones terms of height 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.400 and length and strength. If the Jaguars can get some 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:49.120 sort of super production from this kid, if he can 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.160 reach his potential, what a great pick. 0:15:53.320 --> 0:15:54.240 This could be. 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:56.760 Because when you watch the Titans play, Jeffrey Simmons is 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.360 the best player on their defense. 0:15:58.480 --> 0:16:00.360 Sometimes he's the best player on the field. 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.880 So you're going for that lightning in a bottle with 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:04.840 a guy like this and hoping it pays. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.840 Off big time six five and three hundred plus pounds. 0:16:07.920 --> 0:16:10.560 I mean, obviously he'll also get to like that exactly, 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:11.760 and you're gonna get to work with, you know, and 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.520 Eric Armstead who's long and tall as well. So I 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.520 hope they can pick up some pointers on that line 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:19.760 there and develop as things go along. Let's go a 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.920 little later in the rounds. Let's go to Cam a little. 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.080 I think this is our most confident player, John, you 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.520 were you were hearing some of that zoom he had. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:29.680 He thinks he's the number one guy in the class, 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.440 and when he spoke to me, he said he's excited 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.040 to get into camp and compete. 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:38.480 Yeah, look, why not. I mean, if if you have 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.320 a choice between a kid who comes in and really 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:46.000 thinks highly of himself and really doesn't at kicker, you 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.360 may as well think you're good and then not worry 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.280 about what happens if you show it. So you know, 0:16:54.280 --> 0:16:56.880 it's the old cliche kickers. You sort of put him 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:58.920 in the corner and whatever they want to do, it's 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.720 okay because they're a weird ad bunch. 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.280 Until you need him to kick a game winning field goal. 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:07.600 That takes you to the next round of the playoffs, 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:09.320 like Roley Patterson. I mean, you couldn't have been in 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.760 the stadium that day, sure against. 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.439 The Chargers a year ago and not have thought, I 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:15.560 wonder what's going through his head? 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:15.760 Right? 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.639 Sure, so you want this kid to come and be 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.000 willing to swing his leg and give it his all. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.239 He's got the leg strength to kick from sixty right. 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.320 Whether he's accurate from there or not in the National 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:27.480 Football League remains to be seen. But I think the 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.240 interesting part is they really like and both Doug and 0:17:30.280 --> 0:17:33.160 Trent told me this yesterday, they really like his ability 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:36.280 to control the ball and drop it into that zone 0:17:36.280 --> 0:17:38.640