1 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag Zamine Kay Nannie Stevens. The twenty twenty 2 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: four draft is now behind us. Who get some new 3 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: players headed to Jacksonville and a whole lot to talk about. 4 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: Do have some breaking news off the top here though, 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: as a list of unsigned free agents as well as 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 1: some cuts to the team wide receivers. A Jones is 7 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: being cut as well as kicker Joey Slide. So, Brian, 8 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: that news coming out Brian Thomas Junior was their first 9 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: draft picks. That means they mean to cut to the 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver room as well. Well, that made sense because 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: you're going to need to keep Devereux and de borrow 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: the Dune from Baltimore as a receiver because that's the 13 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: position that he plays as well. 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: And it's just a numbers game. 15 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 3: The Jaguars will save about five million dollars against the 16 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: cap in twenty twenty four, not that they needed to, John, 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 3: they've got lots of room. 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 4: Well it's yeah, it's uh. I don't love it. I mean, 19 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 4: I like Zay and I like what he brought. I 20 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 4: think it would have been good to have that option, 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: but in the cap era, when you're trying to save money, 22 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: roll out the future. It is a you know, it's 23 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 4: not a sign of our times. We've been in this 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 4: time forever. But it is a function of the salary cap. 25 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 4: You know, I let's not forget before he leaves, big, big, 26 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 4: big contributor to that twenty two teams a Jones. It 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 4: sort of shows you how tough it is to stay 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 4: in this league at the age that he's at flourishing 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 4: member of this team twenty two, flourishing member in twenty three. 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,479 Speaker 4: Couple injuries, it's a tough leak. 31 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 3: Well, he left his memories too, right the two point 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: conversion against Baltimore in twenty twenty two that gave them 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 3: that win, that started the winning streak, and he had 34 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: a big one in Tennessee a couple of weeks later 35 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 3: where he just tight roped that. 36 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: Was caught by the pylon camp. 37 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 3: He leaves a lot of great memories in the fans' 38 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: minds if they think about what's a Joe might put 39 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: that team? 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: Good win, healthy, tough year last year, so roster casualty 41 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: as of this point, we're going to bring our guests now, though. 42 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: Trevor Sikhma from Pro Football Focus, of course, their lead 43 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: draft analyst, Tart, Thanks for joining us. 44 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: We got some news there. 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: We do want to talk about our first round draft pick, 46 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Brian Thomas Junior, of course, and what that addition to 47 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: the offense is going to mean for Trevor. 48 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 49 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 5: You know, it's funny. 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 6: When I saw this pick, I was like, Hey, this 51 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 6: is a really good pick, and then I looked. 52 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 5: Up, Oh, I think they're going to be more vertical 53 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 5: on offense. 54 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 6: And actually the checks were pretty dang vertical last year 55 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 6: in their offense. When you look at you know, big 56 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,639 Speaker 6: time throws, total yards, total attempts, passing. 57 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 5: Grade on throws that were twenty or more. 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 6: Yards down the field, they were top ten in all 59 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 6: of those categories. And so Brian Thomas Junior and the 60 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,920 Speaker 6: addition of Gabe Davison free agency, that just puts their 61 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 6: foot on the gas even more for that being an 62 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 6: identity of their offense, Trevor Lawrence ha said a couple 63 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 6: of four thousand yard seasons, but I genuinely think that 64 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 6: with their offense now, the skill set that they have 65 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 6: at wide receiver and that mentality that we saw from 66 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 6: twenty twenty two, this could be a potential five thousand 67 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 6: yard passing season for Trevor Lawrence if he is fully healthy, 68 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 6: because we already know that's what they. 69 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 7: Want to do. 70 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 6: Now they just have the pieces to do that even better. 71 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 6: So like the draft pick, especially now that I went 72 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 6: and look back and said, this is exactly where they 73 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 6: were going, it's the type of player that allows them 74 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 6: to do that even more and more successfully. 75 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: Trevor has offensive line taken a step. 76 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Back in terms of value for wide receivers because it 77 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 3: was a great offensive line draft and the Jaguars went receiver, 78 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: which it didn't seem like they needed to fill as 79 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 3: significantly as I thought offensive line. Or is Brian Thomas 80 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: just that special that he couldn't pass on it? 81 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: Now? 82 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 5: I think that it's a little bit of a combination 83 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: of both. 84 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 6: Right, Trent balk there the general manager, I think throughout 85 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 6: his general manager career, whether it's been in Jackson Mill 86 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 6: or his time in San Francisco. 87 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: Like he's going to gravitate towards athletes. 88 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 6: I mean the Mason Smith pick in the second round 89 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 6: is just more evidence to that. But when you look 90 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 6: at Brian Thomas junior, the size man six or three 91 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 6: two ten pounds, four three three speed, I mean that's 92 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 6: just pretty rare for that size and speed combination, so 93 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 6: you gravitate towards that. But I do think that we 94 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 6: are in an age where picking wide receiver, even over 95 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 6: something is what we thought is pivotal as offensive tackle 96 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 6: or offensive line in general. It is more common because 97 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 6: we are seeing such superstars come out from the receiver position, 98 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 6: and I think that goes all the way down to 99 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 6: the grassroots level, right You're seeing more seven on seven camps. 100 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 6: You know, these guys are getting involved in skill position 101 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:30,520 Speaker 6: work way earlier in junior high, in high school, and 102 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 6: you're just developing more wide receivers nowadays. So there's just 103 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 6: a ton of these great skill position players that are 104 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 6: coming through year after year. So it's a little bit 105 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 6: of Okay, Brian Thomas and his unique athletic ability at 106 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 6: his size couldn't really pass that up. 107 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 5: But also it is just the fact that. 108 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 6: Wide receiver more often, like you said, is getting valued 109 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,479 Speaker 6: as a premium position like pass protectors, like pass rushers. 110 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 6: So we're seeing that more and more. And obviously this 111 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 6: traf was a good state before. 112 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 4: And the Jaguars obviously focused on special teams a lot 113 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 4: late because of the new kickoff rules. Did you see 114 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 4: that as a major trend around the NFL, and it 115 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 4: seems to me like the league is really going to 116 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: be at a point this year of trying to figure 117 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 4: out what these new rules mean. They sort of think 118 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 4: they know and they're going to experiment with it, but 119 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 4: it might be a year or so before they really 120 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 4: figure out how best to take advantage of them. 121 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, it's gonna be fun to watch this year, And 122 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 6: by fun, I mean some teams are maybe gonna be 123 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: a little disastrous and other teams are absolutely. 124 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 5: Going to hit a home run. And every team is 125 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 5: trying to take that third phase. 126 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 6: Of the game and make it into a plus for them, right, 127 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 6: something that's going to be very important. We've heard over 128 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 6: the years pass that old field position matters so much, 129 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 6: and that's such an important part of the game. It's 130 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 6: why kickers and punters and kick returners have been drafted 131 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 6: decently highly over the last couple of years, at least 132 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 6: every now and then. 133 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 5: But this is totally different. 134 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 6: Now you have an opportunity to pick a totally different 135 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 6: type of kick returner that could really be advantageous to 136 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 6: the game. I mean, you guys, know, everybody out there 137 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 6: watches the games over the last couple of years, every 138 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 6: single kickoff, they're just through in the back of the 139 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 6: end zone. I mean, that's how every drive is going 140 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 6: to start, right at the twenty five yard line. 141 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 5: Now it's a little different. 142 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,720 Speaker 6: You have an opportunity to really make a difference and 143 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 6: flip the field a little bit more in your favor 144 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 6: with guys who can see the field. 145 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 7: A little bit more. 146 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 8: Right. 147 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 6: Kick returners used to just be all right, let's put 148 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 6: our fastest guy back there, have them receive the ball 149 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 6: and run as fast as he can, and hopefully our 150 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 6: blocking team will be able to get guys blocked up. 151 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 6: Maybe we can get a rushing lane and hit something 152 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 6: up the sideline. But now, with the contact window being 153 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 6: much closer together, kick return is much more about. 154 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 5: Seeing the field. 155 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 6: Like it's almost about running back vision at this point, 156 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 6: you know, what are you in space? So you're gonna 157 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,799 Speaker 6: look at a lot of these numbers, these one cut backs, 158 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 6: these shifty wide receivers, these guys that make players miss 159 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 6: in open space. That's actually going to be prioritized, in 160 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 6: my opinion. 161 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,559 Speaker 5: More than just straight line speed. 162 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 6: You want to be able to hit the home run, 163 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 6: but shoot if you can get an extra ten, five, 164 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 6: even five yards on a kickoff return because you just 165 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 6: see the field very well, you see the blocking very well. 166 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 6: That is incredible advantageous at a consistent level. So it's 167 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 6: going to be very interesting to see how these teams 168 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 6: kind of navigate those new kickoff roles. 169 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: Trevor, when we look at this class as a whole 170 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars, Trent Balky definitely went for some size, 171 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: some physicality. That's something he talked about at the end 172 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: of last season. They weren't big enough, they weren't strong enough. 173 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: You see a lot of six to six guys. You 174 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: see a lot of three hundred plus pounders, maybe not 175 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: developed yet. But he definitely went for that, Let's get 176 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: these big people in here and try to train them up. 177 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Is that advantageous by the numbers or is this kind 178 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: of a boomer bust with some of these guys. 179 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 5: Well, I think it's hell boom or bust. 180 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 6: Anytime you're talking about a draft pick, right, I think 181 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 6: sometimes that's a little unfair when you talk about general 182 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 6: managers or making selections, you just go, oh, this guy's 183 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 6: a boomer bust. There's no such thing as a guarantee 184 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 6: at the NFL level when you're talking about college kids 185 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 6: going to the pros. So everything's got a little bit 186 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 6: of a risk to it. But certainly when you look 187 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 6: at this draft for the Jaguars, at least for the 188 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 6: first couple of picks. Gil Brian Thomas Junior, very good 189 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 6: vertical threat, and I mentioned that unique size and speed 190 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 6: combination there from him. But you know, can he develop 191 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 6: and do a full, overall, well rounded wide receiver. 192 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 5: I think that is a question. 193 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: Now he's a younger guy, so you expect that he's 194 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 6: gonna get better, but really good off of a vertical plane, 195 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,119 Speaker 6: but can he developed more nuanced in his route running 196 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 6: canny diversify his routree more than just those vertical routes 197 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 6: and things off of a vertical stem. 198 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 5: That's what you're looking to see. 199 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 6: So there's a little bit of risk there if he's 200 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 6: just a vertical wide receiver. 201 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, it was picked a little bit high, but 202 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 5: even for. 203 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 6: Just that, I like I said, the size, speed combinations incredible. 204 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 6: Mason Smith total projection, right, I mean, five star, number 205 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 6: one overall recruit at one point is able to play 206 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 6: as a true directman at LSU gets injured, Tears' his 207 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 6: acl which is a couple of plays into twenty twenty two, 208 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 6: and then this past year in twenty twenty three, you 209 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 6: could just tell there was a combination of he had 210 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 6: not played a lot of football and he's still trust 211 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 6: in that knee. Now he was able to play and 212 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 6: be fully healthy, which is good, but he's definitely a 213 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 6: projection there Jerry and Jones. I like from him because 214 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 6: over the last couple of years he sort of struggled 215 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 6: as an outside receiver, but then Florida State moved him 216 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 6: into the slot and he was excellent elite coverage grade 217 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 6: in our metric system. He was a top tier Select 218 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 6: grou slot receiver that we had in this class. And 219 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 6: I also like the addition to Jordan Jefferson and Javon 220 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 6: Foster as well. Those guys I think have a lot 221 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 6: of experience to them good depth players, and so that's 222 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 6: sort of how I saw those first couple of pictures 223 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 6: for the Jags. 224 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: Every second'm a Pro Football Focus lead draft analyst. Thank 225 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 1: you for joining us. You appreciate it. 226 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. 227 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 2: Guys. 228 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: All right, stay with us here on jagsam coming back. 229 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,199 Speaker 1: We're gonna go over some superlatives for the twenty twenty 230 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: four NFL Draft class. After the break, Move the. 231 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 5: Freight, Move the Freight. 232 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: Magellan Transportation voted the coolest office space in Jacksonville. You 233 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: can apply on line at Mageo Logistics dot com. 234 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: Hey, Jerry, how you doing, man? 235 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 6: Good? 236 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 4: Hey, congratulations, We're just gonna bring you right down the road. 237 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 9: Let's play bowl there. 238 00:09:58,120 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 7: Let's go. 239 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 10: Congratulations man, Here's here's here's our gimp Okay, congratulations. 240 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 6: That a couple of party. 241 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 10: Hey, remember we talked about the mall. 242 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: Congratulations man, Man, never get sick of hearing those calls. 243 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: That's third round pick Jarry and Jenkins out of Florida State. 244 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: Kind of left Trent Bok on Red. 245 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 7: Bear as well. 246 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: We didn't get a little excited at the party. But 247 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: we love those calls. We love you know, dreams coming 248 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: true for all of these draft picks, and it's exciting 249 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: to get the new players in. 250 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: Here, you guys. Yeah, And he's an intriguing guy. I 251 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 4: talked to h the four state secondary coach yesterday. Played 252 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 4: at a very high level out side. They moved him 253 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 4: inside last year because they felt like his experience and 254 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 4: his awareness inside, which you have to have to play 255 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 4: the nickel. Really took him to a different level. It's 256 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 4: what they need. I mean, he has the skill to 257 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 4: eventually move outside. It certainly sounds to me like he 258 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 4: will be the guy to beat in terms of the nickel. 259 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 4: It's a tough thing to move inside as a rookie 260 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 4: in the NFL and play the nickel. But you know 261 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 4: everything you hear about the kid. Great kid overcame a 262 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 4: lot of adversity early, which leads you to believe that 263 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: he can overcome what he needs to overcome to get 264 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 4: into the lineup. Great second day draft store. 265 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they spent a lot of time with him 266 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: when he was at the local pro day because he 267 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: didn't work out. He stood on his combine in his 268 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: Florida State Pro day. And I talked to Doug yesterday 269 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: about him, and he sees his immediate contributor on special teams. 270 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: I mean, steps right in and it's a guy who 271 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: can be one of your better special teams coverage guys 272 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 3: right out at the gate. 273 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk about some of our guys. We're going to 274 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: do some superlatives, like we're in high school once again. 275 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: We'll go over this twenty twenty four draft class with 276 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: start out with the first round pick, because why not, 277 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: Ryan Thomas, you and you're most likely to succeed because 278 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: the first round pick, so you better succeed. 279 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 4: But as we. 280 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: Mentioned, I mean, this is a great threat for Trevor, 281 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: and I think it's nice to mention as well. I mean, 282 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: a young player that can grow with Trevor, right, Like 283 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: there's they brought in some veteran receivers when they for 284 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: you know, when Doug came in and kind of overhauled 285 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: everything for Trevor to work with. But now it's someone 286 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,439 Speaker 1: that you have locked up for the next couple of 287 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: years to grow with Trevor. 288 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: Really long arms and big hands. I mean you see 289 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 3: that when you see him reaching for it, which allows 290 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: him to go out and get that fifty to fifty ball. Clearly, 291 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 3: Johnny also has great body control because you see him 292 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 3: in the corner of the end zone or down the 293 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: sideline with a guy in coverage and still making the catch, 294 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 3: which will be great on third downs. 295 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 2: Right to be able to keep this team on the field, be. 296 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 3: Able to have to throw to a guy and know 297 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 3: that he can elevate and go get it. 298 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, he has every tool. The thing that you hear 299 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 4: about him needs to develop or out running. Trevor talked 300 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 4: about it. That's big in the NFL. I mean it's 301 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 4: hard in the NFL to just be great based on 302 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 4: physical tools, which he has, so his task to reach. 303 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 4: You know, the thing said about him was outside the 304 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 4: top three. He had the skill set to be a one. 305 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: The development part will be the key for him bare 306 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 4: minimum this year. He comes in and strains the defense 307 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 4: and gives them, you know that magic for the thing 308 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: that I like, You've got Christian, You've got gave Davis, 309 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: who here's a great kid, and Evan Ingram. He doesn't 310 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,559 Speaker 4: have to be the guy. I think a lot of 311 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 4: Jaguars and first round receivers in the past have failed 312 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 4: because they had to be the guy. Day one gives. 313 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Him a little leeway to learn as he comes in. 314 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Mason Smith Knacks. I actually got 315 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: to talk to Ethan Wad during this process when we 316 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: were doing draft picks and told me a little bit 317 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: about I'm gonna project here and call him the best 318 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: comeback story because if they hit, which is what they're 319 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 1: hoping for, he's dealt with an acl tair and then 320 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: last year said he didn't really feel that comfortable, but 321 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: ethan waan on the front office is hoping that when 322 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: they get him in the building can work with them. 323 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 324 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 11: I think as you watch the tape from this past season. 325 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 11: Early in the season, he was still kind of recovering 326 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 11: from that knee injury, but each week the tape got 327 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 11: better and better. And it also helps that we have 328 00:14:11,400 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 11: his defensive coordinator from college, Matthouse here in the staff 329 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 11: room as well, that I can really speak to his 330 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 11: ability and his character. 331 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: John that Matt House connection, the new inside linebackers coach, 332 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator at LSU last year, and he 333 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 1: got a couple of his guys in the building for sure. 334 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure that helps when you're investing in a 335 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 4: player to be able to turn into a guy. So 336 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 4: what kind of kid is this? You know, beyond everything 337 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 4: they're telling me, you got somebody in the building they 338 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 4: can tell you, Yeah, I'm not BS and you. This 339 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 4: kid's x y Z. You know, Brian said it all weekend. 340 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 4: This kid has every trait. You're taking a guy later 341 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: in the second round who has a first round pick potential. 342 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: If everything goes right, is it boom or bust I guess, 343 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 4: but I completely agree with what Trevor said. I've never 344 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 4: seen a draft pick in the NFL. He's not boom 345 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 4: or bus so crystal bold business you take traits. He 346 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: certainly looks like he can be that tall, long, dominant 347 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: defensive tackle that when those guys hit, they have the 348 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 4: potential to be core defensive players and impact in a 349 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 4: lot of ways. 350 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 2: So the first thought that I had when they drafted. 351 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 3: Him was that the Titans took Jeffrey Simmons out of 352 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 3: Mississippi State a few years back and he had torn 353 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: his ACL and he knew he wasn't going to be 354 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: ready until his second year, and that has paid off 355 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: in spades for them. This guy has the same physical 356 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 3: profile as Jeffrey Simmons as Chris Jones terms of height 357 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: and length and strength. If the Jaguars can get some 358 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 3: sort of super production from this kid, if he can 359 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 3: reach his potential, what a great pick. 360 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 2: This could be. 361 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: Because when you watch the Titans play, Jeffrey Simmons is 362 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: the best player on their defense. 363 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: Sometimes he's the best player on the field. 364 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: So you're going for that lightning in a bottle with 365 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 3: a guy like this and hoping it pays. 366 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Off big time six five and three hundred plus pounds. 367 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he'll also get to like that exactly, 368 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: and you're gonna get to work with, you know, and 369 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: Eric Armstead who's long and tall as well. So I 370 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: hope they can pick up some pointers on that line 371 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: there and develop as things go along. Let's go a 372 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 1: little later in the rounds. Let's go to Cam a little. 373 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: I think this is our most confident player, John, you 374 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: were you were hearing some of that zoom he had. 375 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: He thinks he's the number one guy in the class, 376 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 1: and when he spoke to me, he said he's excited 377 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 1: to get into camp and compete. 378 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, why not. I mean, if if you have 379 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 4: a choice between a kid who comes in and really 380 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 4: thinks highly of himself and really doesn't at kicker, you 381 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 4: may as well think you're good and then not worry 382 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 4: about what happens if you show it. So you know, 383 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 4: it's the old cliche kickers. You sort of put him 384 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 4: in the corner and whatever they want to do, it's 385 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 4: okay because they're a weird ad bunch. 386 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: Until you need him to kick a game winning field goal. 387 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 3: That takes you to the next round of the playoffs, 388 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 3: like Roley Patterson. I mean, you couldn't have been in 389 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: the stadium that day, sure against. 390 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: The Chargers a year ago and not have thought, I 391 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: wonder what's going through his head? 392 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: Right? 393 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: Sure, so you want this kid to come and be 394 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: willing to swing his leg and give it his all. 395 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,239 Speaker 3: He's got the leg strength to kick from sixty right. 396 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: Whether he's accurate from there or not in the National 397 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: Football League remains to be seen. But I think the 398 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 3: interesting part is they really like and both Doug and 399 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 3: Trent told me this yesterday, they really like his ability 400 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 3: to control the ball and drop it into that zone 401 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 3: because if it goes into the end zone, that's a penalty, 402 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 3: not a foul, but it costs you yards. So you 403 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 3: want to put the ball in a position where your 404 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 3: team can get underneath it in this new kickoff, and 405 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 3: they think he's got that kind of control. 406 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 4: And look, since Doug got here, they've sort of been 407 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 4: looking to solidify that kicker to get their six seven 408 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 4: year guy, whatever that is. So they took a draft 409 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 4: pick in what otherwise was not considered a great six 410 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 4: seventh round drafts. So you take that year and do 411 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 4: you have to kicker. 412 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 3: And you see, if you saw it, well, they said 413 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 3: he'th farwell out to work out all three of the kickers, 414 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: and this is the guy he came back raving about, 415 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: and he was the second kicker taking in that round. 416 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 2: So they got the guy that they wanted without having 417 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: to move up to get him. 418 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: You're that confident at twenty years old, the youngest kicker 419 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: to be drafted. So that's a good sign. 420 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 4: I can't even remember twenty much less if I was 421 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 4: confident that so long. 422 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: Ago, so long ago. Let's go back to some of 423 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: the big linemen. Jordan Jefferson. I'm gonna give him most 424 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: competitive because he got a little bit of an attitude. 425 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: I think we've all seen this video of him at 426 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: the Shrine Bowl tossing a helmet around football. 427 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 2: Is not a nice kid, but sometimes. 428 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: And that's what we need sometimes, right because how many 429 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: times would we say maybe a little attitude wouldn't help once, 430 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: it wouldn't hurt once in a while for this team. 431 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 1: And if you can have that on the line, maybe 432 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 1: you know him and Cam can. I think Brent from 433 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,879 Speaker 1: Action News was saying that they should have a helmet 434 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: talks in competition. 435 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 7: Think they're they're so. 436 00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 4: Adept at that. 437 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen through the years around here with some 438 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 3: guys it's gotten him cut. 439 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 2: You hope he doesn't do that here, but you do 440 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: like the attitude. 441 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: And look, if you're in the trenches all day, you 442 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 3: got to keep that attitude alive. 443 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, and he's a straight nose tackle. Now, I mean, like, 444 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 4: so you've brought in a guy who is sort of 445 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 4: your athletic guy. Next to him his nose tackle, You're 446 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 4: starting to see a little bit about what Ryan Nielsen 447 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 4: wants from his defense. Fourth round, right, so you can 448 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 4: get big. That's where you're supposed to get your big 449 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 4: run stuffer. If he's that, he was the strongest guy 450 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,200 Speaker 4: at the Yeah. So combined again, it all goes back 451 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,280 Speaker 4: to we talked all weekend about traits, and I'm more 452 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 4: and more considering the draft is such speculation. If you 453 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,280 Speaker 4: draft guys with traits and they work out, they have 454 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 4: a chance to be high end. A lot of your 455 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: guys don't work out anyway, so you may as well 456 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 4: have the traits. 457 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: All right, We're gonna close things out with mister congeniality, 458 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: Jarion Jones, my personal favorite personality. He's gonna be a 459 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,600 Speaker 1: team favorite for sure, I can just tell. And he's 460 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: also a huge Jag fan growing up. He talked about 461 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,200 Speaker 1: that when we got him on the media call. 462 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 10: So when I was growing up, you know, I was 463 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,639 Speaker 10: a big Maye Jones Drew guy like I was a 464 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 10: big Maurice Jones Drew guy like. I was a super 465 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 10: fan of him, you know, I was. I watched just 466 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 10: about I think every game that he played, you know, 467 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 10: And when Jalen went there from Florida State, like I 468 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 10: was tuning into every game, him playing inside outside, just 469 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 10: the way he brought. 470 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: Like what he brought to the game. 471 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 7: You know, I kind of fell in love with. 472 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 10: Jack watch Jalen was there, and especially while Mary's Jones 473 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 10: drewers they you know. 474 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 2: So just now me being. 475 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 10: Able to continue that Florida State pipeline and come in 476 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 10: and make plays and do what I do best, you know, 477 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 10: it's it's a blessing. 478 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:42,360 Speaker 6: Man. 479 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 4: You have the number one thing he has in common 480 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 4: with Moys Shins. He's a big fan of Moys. I 481 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:56,400 Speaker 4: love yeah, he h Yeah, that's the kind of kid 482 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,919 Speaker 4: that gravitates to Morys. 483 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,920 Speaker 2: In the third round, You're hoping to get a guy 484 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 2: that can come in. 485 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 3: And play, but you're also hoping to get a guy 486 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 3: that loves football because it's going to take a lot 487 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 3: of work to get him ready to go. 488 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: And it looks like he's willing to put that in. 489 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: And you heard him on that call earlier, emotional, obviously 490 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 1: excited to be picked, but he also said I'm ready 491 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: to go. 492 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,640 Speaker 4: I'm a dog, let's go. Well, it was neat about 493 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 4: that quote. Is you really heard what's in it? For 494 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 4: a lot of guys draft weekend, all of said he 495 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: gets drafted and he realized he's going to get to 496 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: continue living his dream for X number of years, and 497 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 4: so many guys on draft weekend, you know, you know 498 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,199 Speaker 4: it's ending at that point, so clearly he savors it. 499 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: You know, he's sitting there telling Doug, I love football. 500 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 4: Well that holy heck, I get to go play it 501 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: some more. Pretty cool. 502 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 1: Absolutely stay with us here, We're going to do some 503 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: ozone mail bag questions for you after the break here 504 00:21:50,200 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 1: on Jack's I am Jags Fans. 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So our first question today 515 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:34,360 Speaker 1: comes from Bradford from Orange Park. 516 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 4: And Uh, it was does Lawrence's fifth year option, uh, 517 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 4: which he and Travis etn got on Monday? Does that 518 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 4: preclude them from signing long term contracts? And I kind 519 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 4: of get the question. If you don't go into real 520 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 4: detail in a story, you said say, well, okay, well 521 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 4: they got the fifth year option. Well that means there's no. 522 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 4: The answer is no. You give the fifth year option 523 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 4: to basically secure the player. The team has the right 524 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 4: they can sign Trevor, Lawrence or a traves Et in 525 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 4: the long term deals whenever they so choose. I expect, 526 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 4: I've been saying for a few weeks. I expect the 527 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: Trevor deal at some point this off season to be done. 528 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 4: Travis is in a different situation because he's a running back. 529 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 4: It's a little more of a at this point in 530 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 4: the contract, fourth year year to year and then sort 531 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: of see what kind of a shorter term deal at 532 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 4: the end of that contract, what the numbers look like. Unfortunately, 533 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 4: it's a different terrain for running back and quarterback. 534 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 3: Just thought, Trevor's fifth year number is twenty five million 535 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: dollars and that's a big number, and a lot of 536 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 3: times in the first year of a new deal they 537 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 3: want to get that number lower so they have more 538 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,680 Speaker 3: cap flexibility. So you'd probably like to see him get 539 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 3: a new deal done so that you can manage the 540 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:47,680 Speaker 3: first year of that number. 541 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: It is something we see with quarterbacks a little closer 542 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: to training camp, ray a little later in the summer. 543 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: Things usually seem to come through before training camp. 544 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, the mahomes Borough, like a lot of them have 545 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 4: been July, say, closer, much much closer the week before. Yep. 546 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: Our second question is a little bit about draft dogs. Right, 547 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 1: These guys all are great off the bus, but I 548 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: don't see any dogs I help them wrong. Do you 549 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: see any dogs? 550 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 4: Dog? 551 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 11: Yeah? 552 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 4: I was. 553 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: There's a lot of self proclaimed dogs, for sure. 554 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 4: I was a little intrigued by the question because I 555 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 4: got you know, I listened to three minutes of zoom 556 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 4: calls with these guys and watched the b roll, you know, 557 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 4: for five seconds of highlights. I I'm not good enough 558 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 4: to know that that means their dogs or not, because 559 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: dogs means you're yelling at people a lot or beating you. 560 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 4: I don't know. It's it sure seems like there's some confidence. 561 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 4: H But we'll find out if they're dogs once the 562 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 4: pads goals, you know. So, uh, it's great to yell 563 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 4: in the locker room with your teammate if you can't play, 564 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,720 Speaker 4: your teammate's going all right. 565 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 3: Dog, You can't possibly know until you get them into 566 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 3: the fourth part of a game and you need to 567 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 3: make a play and they do where they don't. 568 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: Right, So you got to be a dog. You can't 569 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 4: just look and act like one. 570 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: Fair enough, we'll see when they get into game action. 571 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Let's round things out with a little bit of an 572 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: hour later. Do you think most fans think of the 573 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: draft in terms of what can help the team win 574 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: this year, while most gms are thinking about what can 575 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: help the team win more so the following year. 576 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 4: Well, I think most fans are thinking absolutely about what 577 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 4: can help them win this year. The GM has to 578 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,119 Speaker 4: have an eye on that. But as I wrote in 579 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 4: the text answer to this question, if the GM's not 580 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 4: looking past the year that he's drafting in, he's doing 581 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 4: a disservice to the team. You can't just draft for 582 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 4: that year. So yes, I think there's a huge disconnect 583 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,879 Speaker 4: between that. I've said more and more in recent years 584 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 4: there's a been disconnected what fans because we build these 585 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 4: guys up so much in April and then talk about 586 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 4: them so much. There's this, oh, if they don't play 587 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 4: well Week one, they're terrible. The draft is really about 588 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 4: the second and fifth year of those guys career. I 589 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 4: don't say anything you get from rookies as gravy, but 590 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 4: in some cases it's as hard to come in and contribute. 591 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,440 Speaker 3: This is why you have a coach who coaches the 592 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,400 Speaker 3: team and a general manager who manages the roster, because 593 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,919 Speaker 3: somebody has to have that macro view and to be 594 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 3: able to see three and five years down the road. 595 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 3: We have seen it where coaches make short term decisions 596 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 3: to win now because their jobs are so year to year, 597 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 3: and those aren't often the best long term decisions. The 598 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: best in recent memory here is the decision of twenty 599 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 3: seventeen to take Leonard Fournette instead of Patrick Mahomes. 600 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 2: How might that have been different. 601 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 4: Right, because Leonard Fournette was a very good player to 602 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 4: one playoff front. Yep, you sort of even knew then 603 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,919 Speaker 4: that it was short term gain, long term pay. 604 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 3: One hundred percent, And it's so easy to look back 605 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,199 Speaker 3: and have hindsight twenty twenty. But that is such a 606 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 3: glaring short term solution for the Jaguars. They knew that 607 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 3: they needed the running game to make Blake Bortles more 608 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 3: effective to play to the defense which they had built 609 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 3: and bolstered through free agency. And it was a good 610 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 3: decision because it got in the AFC title game, but 611 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: that only lasted a year if they'd taken Mahomes. 612 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,439 Speaker 2: Who knows what might have been. 613 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: There's a lot of might there because you don't know 614 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 3: how things work out. But you have to have a 615 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 3: big picture of you with draft choices, because few and 616 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,480 Speaker 3: far between are those guys that come in and just 617 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: light the place up as. 618 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 4: A rookie time. 619 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: We'll tell on this hard to judge a draft right away, 620 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: of course, that's what we've been doing all day, but 621 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: it'll take a while to see where these draft picks 622 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: end up. Stay with us for a little bit longer. 623 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: We talk about what's coming up, including rookie minicap. 624 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 7: Yoh, it was good, Bro, it was good. 625 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 9: Welcome to Jacksoville. 626 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 7: Man, appreciate it. Appreciate it. Excited to be there. 627 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 9: You can't wait beating it down here. Bro, it's gonna 628 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 9: be It's gonna be awesome. You love the guys. Can't 629 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 9: wait to have you brothers. 630 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 7: Yep, appreciate you. 631 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 2: How's the how's the knife and everything? 632 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 7: Good? Yeah, it's been going good so far. Excited families 633 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 7: in sight of everybody's here. 634 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 9: Man, I'm happy for I don't want to take too 635 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 9: what's your time? But yeah, I'm sure you got some 636 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 9: media stuff all that. 637 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 7: Yep, appreciate it though, bro. 638 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, bro, all right, man, I'll see you soon. Enjoy 639 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 9: I know your probably can come down here tomorrow. Enjoy it, man, 640 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 9: soak it up. Congratulations, Tell your family, I said, what's up? 641 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 7: Yeah, wait to meet you, bro, got you appreciate your 642 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 7: fair them all right? 643 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: Roy Ever, long's talkings, new Target. 644 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 4: How's it going well? I just slayed twenty nine? Pretty good, 645 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 4: pretty good day, good day. That was cool though. 646 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: If anyone can relate, it's it's Trevor, I'm sure. 647 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 648 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: So we've got rookie Minniember. We're just discussing this the 649 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: end of next week, one of John's favorite times of 650 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: the year. We get these rookies in here and running 651 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: around twenty fifteen. 652 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: Dante Fower popped his ACL in the first ten minutes 653 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 3: we came in the camp, and so mini camp went 654 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 3: from being actually a physical endeavor to more of a. 655 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 2: Mental right, which is what it should be. It's guys 656 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 2: have been. 657 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 4: It's intro, it's here's where the bathroom is, so you 658 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 4: know when you come back next week you can get 659 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 4: to it. And no, and but here's how so that 660 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 4: you're not running around and having no idea what's going on, 661 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 4: you try to give rookies as many reps. They'll give 662 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 4: them some reps this weekend. You do OTAs, and you 663 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 4: bring them in early during training camp, training camp so 664 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 4: that by the time they get like a fourth read 665 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 4: on something, you're not walking around and going, wow, look 666 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 4: at the MEC. 667 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 3: But it is an important point because these guys have 668 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 3: been training for running forty our dashes and three cone 669 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 3: drills and bench pressing. They haven't been doing football stuff, 670 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: and so you put them on the field right away, 671 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 3: and they're not acclimated to it. So it's it is 672 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: much more about here's how we work, Here's how we meet, 673 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 3: Here's where everything is in the building, so that you 674 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: are more productive when training camp roles. 675 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 4: And strength guys and trainers have begged coaches for years 676 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: to realize, don't work these guys when they first get here, 677 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 4: for years that they didn't listen. Finally, over the last 678 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 4: couple of years, with some injuries like that, most teams 679 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 4: are doing it this way, which is basically, this is 680 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 4: an introductory orientation, if you will. 681 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: More than we won't say anything crazy from them in 682 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: mini camp. But is there any player in particularly you're 683 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing in person? 684 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 4: You look for athleticism, right, So, I mean, it'll be 685 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 4: cool to see Mason Smith because I'm sure you look 686 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 4: at him and say, well, that's that's what I thought 687 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 4: it was. 688 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 3: Well, Miles Cole, the came from Texas Tech, who's a 689 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 3: project in the seventh round. But talking to some of 690 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 3: these guys, these coaches yesterday, apparently Ryan Nielsen was banging 691 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 3: the table to get Miles Cole thought so much of 692 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: his traits. 693 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 4: Well, and the big thing you don't want is there's 694 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 4: what eight nine draftees, as a GM or a scout, 695 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 4: you don't want to be walking off the field that 696 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 4: many camp going, you know, which occasionally happened. 697 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 2: I've been here in the past. 698 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: So that's the big thing to get through that weekend. 699 00:30:58,600 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 4: They all want to get back to their office and 700 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 4: go alright, alright, okay, we're all right there. These guys 701 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 4: can at least line up so because it doesn't happen 702 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: as often as you used to, but occasionally happens. 703 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: All right, that's what we got mini camp headed. Next week, 704 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: we'll get all these rookies in the building. We appreciate 705 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: you joining us. We'll see you next week on JAG's Am.