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Speaker 1: Hoops Tonight, presented by Fan Duel Here at the Volume.

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Speaker 1: I have a very very special guest for you guys today,

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Speaker 1: Miss Rachel to meet a funny story. I met her

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Speaker 1: at the Volume party back in February. We were just

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Speaker 1: and and it was cool because obviously I grew up

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Speaker 1: playing two K and got I got to see you there,

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Speaker 1: and to get to meet you there was a really

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Speaker 1: cool experience. I'm very thankful for you joining us today.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about your new show, UM with

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Speaker 1: Courtside Club. So first of all, thanks for joining us,

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Speaker 1: it's funny. I feel like we've kind of come full

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Speaker 1: a little longer than me. Um. So cool to see us,

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Speaker 1: you know, actually on a podcast now and on yours.

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Speaker 1: So thanks for having me um. But yeah, Courtside Club

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Speaker 1: probably about two years now. So I had this idea

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Speaker 1: ESPN YouTube channel. Um, so you played college ball at

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Speaker 1: to go big or go home like Michael Jordan's, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he would even consider that ever, even

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Speaker 1: if it was like the biggest show in the world.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I just listened to a bunch of people.

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Speaker 1: But we have a long list, we have the whole

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Speaker 1: like Google doc of it. But you should come on also,

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Speaker 1: by the way, for basketball, I'd love to interview Kevin

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Speaker 1: Durant because like, I would just want to talk basketball,

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Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't want to like talk about all your

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Speaker 1: side ventures and stuff like. Don't get me wrong, there's

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Speaker 1: interest in that for certain people, but for me, it's

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Speaker 1: like I just want to and I know Kevin Durant

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Speaker 1: loves basketball, so I'd love to just pick his brain

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Speaker 1: about all those different things. The Tony Hawk thing is

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Speaker 1: interesting to me because I just can't imagine playing a

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Speaker 1: sport where practicing every day involves repeatedly falling down and

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Speaker 1: hurting yourself. Like that's that's the wild part to me.

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Speaker 1: It's because we might sprain our ankle or get a

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Speaker 1: little sore, but like, these dudes put their body on

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Speaker 1: the line every single day. He's still doing it, though.

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Speaker 1: Do you follow him on Twitter? Yeah? So, wasn't he

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Speaker 1: doing a thing recently where it was like, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to try to get all of my tricks one last time,

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Speaker 1: I think? And then he was like like, because he's

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Speaker 1: he's aging a little bit obviously, and he's like, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna just try to all of my signature tricks one

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Speaker 1: last time, and each time he gets it, he fails

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Speaker 1: a bunch of times before it, and then he gets

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Speaker 1: it and has like this emotional moment. It's really cool,

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Speaker 1: I think. I think his whole social media presence over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years has been super fascinating. He's

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Speaker 1: honestly like one I would be so excited to meet him,

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Speaker 1: and I know that that's so out of left field.

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Speaker 1: I can't even I've skateboard at once when I was

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Speaker 1: a kid. I fell cracked my ankle open, never did

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Speaker 1: it again. I've literally never been on a skateboard since,

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Speaker 1: so like, it's not even a sport that I do

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Speaker 1: or know much about. But I love the freaking video

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Speaker 1: game and I think he's so dope. So anyway he

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Speaker 1: would be, he would be so cool. That's courts all

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Speaker 1: cut for you, though, it's you never know who the

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Speaker 1: guests is going to be. So let's let's talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit of NBA hoops. So obviously, last week on Thursday,

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Speaker 1: the Warriors won their fourth title in the last eight years,

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Speaker 1: six trips to the finals in the last eight years.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Steph Clay and Draymond get one more together? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think they can. I think they can. Can. I

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Speaker 1: just say that I called the Warriors winning the finals,

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Speaker 1: and I called them winning in six like early, like

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Speaker 1: first round playoffs. Sorry, I know my predictions aren't always correct,

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Speaker 1: And I was like, you know what, I need to

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Speaker 1: brag about this one a little bit. No, you said,

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Speaker 1: you gotta take your victory laps when you can, because

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Speaker 1: the trolls will let you know every time you're wrong.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every time they'll find my old tweets and

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Speaker 1: and show me it was a bad take. But here's

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Speaker 1: what I think about them, Um, I really I was

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Speaker 1: rooting for them, and I was rooting for them because

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Speaker 1: I think they're a really good example of good basketball

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Speaker 1: and and what it means to keep a team together.

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Speaker 1: And these guys, their chemistry really paid off. And I

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Speaker 1: was actually doing a show with the NBA on Twitter

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Speaker 1: Spaces and I got to interview Andrea Gudala and Draymond

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Speaker 1: and you know, Andrea Gudala obviously didn't play much, and

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Speaker 1: when he did finally get back on the court, he's like,

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Speaker 1: I haven't played with these guys, you know, and however

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Speaker 1: many games, but the chemistry that we have off the

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Speaker 1: court easily translates and I and I feel like I'm

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Speaker 1: falling right back in. Maybe I'm a step behind, you know,

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Speaker 1: physically or whatever, but I still know where these guys are.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's something not to take advantage of

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Speaker 1: because in the past, however many years in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: we've seen guys go to this team, this team, this team,

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Speaker 1: getting their friends to come with him to this team,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it it's proven with Milwaukee and the Warriors,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't really work. These these super teams, these friends

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Speaker 1: and family teams that that some of the guys are

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Speaker 1: trying to create and say it's the g MS, but

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Speaker 1: we all know it's not. You know, I like good

511
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Speaker 1: basketball and that system of basketball to be rewarded, and

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Speaker 1: I think it's really cool what they've done well, and

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Speaker 1: you could see most importantly, you can see it in

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Speaker 1: the fan base. Like I was talking about this with

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Speaker 1: Colin after the Finals. But to me, it's not a

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Speaker 1: coincidence that the Warriors get such good TV ratings. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: obviously Steph is such a brilliant basketball player to watch,

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Speaker 1: but also their fan base is as loyal and ravenous

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Speaker 1: as you'll find around the league. Because you they rode

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Speaker 1: through the highs and lows with that group, they became

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Speaker 1: extremely attached to each of the players and they don't

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Speaker 1: have that mercenary type of feel like they're My favorite

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Speaker 1: calendar example to this is Lebron when he passed I

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Speaker 1: think it was when he passed Karl Malone or Kobe

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Speaker 1: or something like that, and on the scoring list the

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Speaker 1: year that they missed the playoffs in two thousand nineteen,

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Speaker 1: and there's just kind of this awkward feel in the

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Speaker 1: arena because it's like, yes, Lebron's a Laker, but like

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Speaker 1: the Laker fans are like, you're just passing through man,

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Speaker 1: like you're not you know, you're not, You're not really

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Speaker 1: one of us. Now he's earned that right over the

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Speaker 1: last few years. But I don't think it's a coincidence

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Speaker 1: that the Warriors are the way the way that they are.

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Speaker 1: And I agree with you that that it's good to

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Speaker 1: see that type of basketball rewarded. All right, So I've

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Speaker 1: got one last question for you. Okay, So we we

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Speaker 1: have seen NBA players such as Draymond host their own podcast.

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Speaker 1: We've seen like CJ. Mccollumn and Danny Green and some

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Speaker 1: other other examples. Would NBA player would you like to

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Speaker 1: see have a podcast? Mm hmm. That's a good one.

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Speaker 1: Well this is not what I thought about. So I

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Speaker 1: say someone along the same lines of like a Draymond

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Speaker 1: Green type of energy as a Patrick Beverley. If you

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Speaker 1: want pure entertainment, you know, sometimes I'm here for the

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Speaker 1: pure entertainment and just but I'm sure he would. If

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Speaker 1: we're going to see some viral clips, it would come

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Speaker 1: from his but from a standpoint of just I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But but then again for me, like what players do

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Speaker 1: you think of when you think of of of players

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Speaker 1: who are kind of well rounded and and doing some

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Speaker 1: other things beyond basketball, Because that's again you're interested in,

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00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: like the straight hoops and you would love to hear

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00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, like he said, you want to talk to

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00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: Katie because you guys could really get into the nitty

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00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,160
Speaker 1: gritty at basketball. I love all the stuff surrounding it

556
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 1: that leads into basketball. So even if it was like

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry, what if it was like a family podcast,

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00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, If it's like him his

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Speaker 1: wife and his kids. Yeah, yeah, I mean that's you've got.

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00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: You've got Dame Lillard with the rap stuff. You've got

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Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook with all the style stuff. There's a bunch

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Speaker 1: of players around the league that have interests off the court.

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Speaker 1: I think, I think to your point, like like different

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Speaker 1: types of content will appeal to different types of people,

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Speaker 1: but I think the number one thing that would matter

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Speaker 1: is authenticity. Like I have no interest in seeing a

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Speaker 1: Lebron James podcast because I would just be meeting his

568
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 1: representative the whole time, Like I like, I don't I know,

569
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: he's not going to come out and be Lebron, you

570
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: know what I mean? So like my thing would be

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Speaker 1: like someone has interest off the court for for for

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Speaker 1: the sake of what you're talking about, but they have

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Speaker 1: to be willing to be authentic and to drop down

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Speaker 1: the facade and just be you on camera and let

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Speaker 1: us know who you are, which I think Pat Beverley,

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Speaker 1: who is That's a great example, right, And that's that's

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Speaker 1: one of the guys that's like if I'm rooting for

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Speaker 1: the team that he's not playing on, I can't stand

579
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 1: that guy, you know, But when he's on your team,

580
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: just kind of like, man, you know he might he

581
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: might just knock someone out this game. Every every time

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Speaker 1: you see his name come up. Every time you see

583
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: his name come up, it's like the same people that

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00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: were talking about him while they're watching him player, like

585
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 1: we can get him, Like can we trade from what

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Speaker 1: is it? What kind of number is he gonna fetch

587
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Speaker 1: in the free agent market? Alright? So that thank you

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Speaker 1: so much Rachel for coming to hang out with us.

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Speaker 1: Did you take one last minute to just kind of

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Speaker 1: plug where we can find your show and when your

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Speaker 1: next episode comes out and things along those lines of course.

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Speaker 1: So Courtseye Club is live now. You can find it

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Speaker 1: anywhere that you listen to your podcast, so Spotify, Apple,

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Speaker 1: The full episodes are on ESPN's YouTube channel. You can

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Speaker 1: find also, I believe on ESPN app you can find

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Speaker 1: some stuff there. And then clips are on all my

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Speaker 1: social channels and my YouTube channel. All my social media

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Speaker 1: is at our a demeta, so Instagram, Twitter, TikTok, YouTube, Snapchat,

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00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 1: all the things. And yeah, a new episode of Courtsye

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Speaker 1: Club coming out Thursday. So for the first couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: we are throwing a bunch at you. So we have

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Speaker 1: two episodes a week for the first few weeks, and

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Speaker 1: I just want, I just want people to be able

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Speaker 1: to experience this show. Binge it if you want to.

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Speaker 1: Our catalog will build quickly and then we'll go till

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Speaker 1: once a week. But yeah, Monday Thursday. For the next

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Speaker 1: few weeks, the volume