WEBVTT - Chelsea Handler

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<v Speaker 1>Quest Love Show is a production of iHeartRadio. Hey What's up, Everybody?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to The Questlove Show, a new era and a

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<v Speaker 2>format for QLs. After close to a decade of award

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<v Speaker 2>winning podcast You Know and Love, I'm back with a

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<v Speaker 2>new idea after a lengthy hiatus having conversations with people

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<v Speaker 2>who always wanted to get to know on a deeper level.

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<v Speaker 2>This week I spoke with Chelsea Handler virtually. She was

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<v Speaker 2>at home in Los Angeles and I was in my

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<v Speaker 2>office at thirty Rock in New York City, the Red Room.

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<v Speaker 2>We know Chelsea as a comedian, television host, and a

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<v Speaker 2>seven time New York Times bestselling author, with her latest book,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll Have What She's Having out this year. Chelsea is

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<v Speaker 2>also part of the iHeart Podcast family.

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<v Speaker 1>With her Dear Chelsea Show.

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<v Speaker 2>This year, you can catch Chelsea Handler on her High

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<v Speaker 2>and Mighty tour along with her Las Vegas residency at

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<v Speaker 2>the Cosmopolity.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really happy to have her.

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<v Speaker 2>On the sho as the launch of this QLs two

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<v Speaker 2>pointoero period.

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<v Speaker 1>For me.

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<v Speaker 2>This conversation you're gonna hear why Chelsea is present. She

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<v Speaker 2>lives in the moment, She loves vacations, She also prides

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<v Speaker 2>herself as a listener, which she was with some of

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<v Speaker 2>my questions. Chelsea is raw and unfiltered, and in this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation we discussed perhaps traveling together. Listening to Chelsea talk

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<v Speaker 2>about her favorite places. You know, sounds fun, liberating, and

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<v Speaker 2>grateful her work ethic. Like me, she wears many hats,

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<v Speaker 2>and this one was for me and Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a few QLs guests in the past, she was

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<v Speaker 1>opening to random questions and jumping around a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So I hope you liked this new approach for QLs

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<v Speaker 2>and let's get to it all right, enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Chelse, welcome to the quest Left Show. How are

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<v Speaker 1>you today? How's it going?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good. I like the looks of where you are.

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<v Speaker 4>It looks like it is a marijuana infuse dark room.

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<v Speaker 1>I am so not that person.

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<v Speaker 3>I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, So this is what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 2>What time did you wake up this morning?

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<v Speaker 3>Six twelve am?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that typically where your body clock sets off? Or yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Unfortunately I kind of would prefer to sleep a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit later, but like, I kind of need a good

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<v Speaker 4>two to three hours before things get going.

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<v Speaker 3>Just to decuntify.

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<v Speaker 4>Do you know what I mean like I'm a bitch

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<v Speaker 4>and I have to wake up.

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<v Speaker 3>I write in my gratitude journal that's now on my phone.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's a lot easier than writing because I've lost

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<v Speaker 4>the I've lost the aptitude.

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<v Speaker 3>For writing or the design. It hurts. So I do

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<v Speaker 3>my little gratitude.

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<v Speaker 4>I say everything I'm grateful for, even if you know

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not feeling great.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I meditate for twenty minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>I play with my dog, I let him out, and

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<v Speaker 4>I just slowly.

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<v Speaker 3>Come to you know what I mean. I need a

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<v Speaker 3>good two to three hour lead time to start. I

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<v Speaker 3>had everyone else to start my day.

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, wherever I am in the world, typically I

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<v Speaker 4>wake up pretty early.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so that's what your first fifteen minutes. But what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to know.

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<v Speaker 1>Is, what was the last half hour of your last night,

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<v Speaker 1>of your day? Last night? What is the last half hour?

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<v Speaker 3>Huh? Last half hour?

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<v Speaker 4>I went to this tech conference or like this kind

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<v Speaker 4>of tech gathering. So I came home from that pretty early.

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<v Speaker 4>I was home by like nine p thirty. I came

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<v Speaker 4>home from that, I got into bed, I put on

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie Sheen's documentary and then that's like background noise. So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not really watching it, but I just kind of

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<v Speaker 4>liked the TV to lull me into sleep. And then

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<v Speaker 4>while that's happening, I'm checking my phone, returning my emails.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm doing a big stand up tour next year, so

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at my ticket accounts because it just went

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<v Speaker 4>on sale, so I peruse that.

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<v Speaker 3>Then I looked.

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<v Speaker 4>At my emails, look at my day tomorrow, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I just put my eye shades on. I put my

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<v Speaker 4>rain machine on so that I have the thunderstorm going,

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<v Speaker 4>and then Charlie Sheen, and then usually about like ten

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<v Speaker 4>minutes of whatever background TV I have on. After I

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<v Speaker 4>put my eye shades on, I turn off, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I'm usually down.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I was going to ask, do you sleep with

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<v Speaker 1>the TV on or off?

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<v Speaker 3>So off off, but I fall asleep with it on.

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<v Speaker 4>I find it helpful to fall asleep, And I know

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<v Speaker 4>that's not Everyone will say that's a bad but I

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<v Speaker 4>don't really give a shit. I'm fifty years old. I

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<v Speaker 4>know what's best for me.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>During the uh what I'll say in air quotes the

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<v Speaker 2>first cycle, I used to always sleep to the news,

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<v Speaker 2>just to make sure that we are all in one piece.

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<v Speaker 1>The next morning, right right.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the more I started studying about how the

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<v Speaker 2>brain works and how the subconscious works, I realized that

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping the doom and gloom as I was sleeping was

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<v Speaker 2>making my day worse. So I actually started maybe turning

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<v Speaker 2>off the television maybe in yeah, three years ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, in general, it's probably a good privent,

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<v Speaker 4>like not to watch the news at all. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>there's really nothing that we're gaining from watching that. Listening

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<v Speaker 4>to a podcast, a political podcast, I find is much

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<v Speaker 4>less damaging, especially while you're out and driving.

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<v Speaker 3>There's something about.

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<v Speaker 4>Driving and listening to the news that is less damaging

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<v Speaker 4>to your system than actually just sitting on your couch

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<v Speaker 4>and watching the news.

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<v Speaker 2>So the way that I take an information, for instance,

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<v Speaker 2>like if the Roots have a difficult song to master,

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<v Speaker 2>or if I have to do something that requires like memory,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll actually sleep to that loop, you know, like, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're in your sleepy, tired, THETA state, that's where

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<v Speaker 2>you retain. But I also believe that when you're driving,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the equivalent of sleeping, because you're still in your

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<v Speaker 2>subconscious state even though you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Aware in driving.

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<v Speaker 2>But I tend to read a lot of audiobooks and

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<v Speaker 2>listen to podcasts while driving because I'll retain the information better.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why, but you know I love driving.

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<v Speaker 3>I love driving.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like my live in California.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I live in LA. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>traffic here and that's the lamee.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's so nice to know when I can leave

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<v Speaker 4>somewhere and it's like a forty five minute drive, not

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<v Speaker 4>sitting in traffic, but an actual forty five minute drive

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<v Speaker 4>Like that, I can go up to maulhalland and look

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<v Speaker 4>at the views and have a long ride with myself,

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's my kind of that's my vibe.

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<v Speaker 2>People are often shocked that when I get to LA,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to drive myself. For me, especially you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm testing music, Like I whenever an album was complete,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go up the Pacific Coast Highway and test

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<v Speaker 2>the material because for me, if it works on that drive,

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<v Speaker 2>then it works elsewhere. So it's it's a therapeutic thing

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<v Speaker 2>for me. But I never heard a person that lives

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<v Speaker 2>in California.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I thought I was the only one.

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<v Speaker 2>People look at me like, wait, you like to drive,

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<v Speaker 2>And I thought I was the only one so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>glad to know that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I prefer I don'tfer I like, if I'm in

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<v Speaker 4>New York City, I prefer to be driven.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm in LA, I prefer to drive.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So how old were you when you realize you

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<v Speaker 2>had a gift? Be it charisma or organizational skills or.

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<v Speaker 4>It's definitely not organizational skills. I've never realized anything about that.

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<v Speaker 4>In fact, I mean, yeah, don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have that.

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<v Speaker 4>I have no logistical expertise, no domesticity. I think I

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<v Speaker 4>realized I was precocious and that I got attention for that.

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<v Speaker 4>And I was the youngest of six children, so like,

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<v Speaker 4>to me, that was an avenue to get what I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted was to be kind of bold and brazen and

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<v Speaker 4>say the things that nobody would accept a little five

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<v Speaker 4>or six year old girl to say. And I got

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<v Speaker 4>rewarded a lot from my three brothers because they thought

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<v Speaker 4>it was so funny because I was obnoxious, and they'd

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<v Speaker 4>be like, go up and tell that guy that he's

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<v Speaker 4>an idiot, and I'd be like, no problem, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I'd go and tell them and they'd be laughing, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like they made me do stuff like that all the time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I loved their reaction to that. So then that

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<v Speaker 4>became my commodity. Like I became that kind of personality

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<v Speaker 4>and I leaned into it pretty hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Six siblings, five siblings. I'm the youngest of six.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you rank them in order?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes? I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Rank your siblings in order.

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<v Speaker 3>Chat Roy, Glad Simone and Shashana Chelsea.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean by age, I mean by closeness.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh oh oh, sorry, I thought my brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, fuck it, I hope so.

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<v Speaker 1>Or what skill set does each sibling have that you

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<v Speaker 1>admire the most? I won't make you okay.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Well, my brother, my oldest brother, not to be

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<v Speaker 4>a bummer, but he died when I was nine years old,

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<v Speaker 4>so he's out of the picture. But I still account

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<v Speaker 4>to him as my brother because obviously my brother, my

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<v Speaker 4>second oldest brother. Roy is a chef and he is

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest teddy bear in the world. He was the

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<v Speaker 4>chef on Chelsea Lately. He was the chef on my

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<v Speaker 4>Netflix show. He's the one you just always want around.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like a party favor. Roy is the sweetest, most

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<v Speaker 4>gentle man you know, Like we just all love him.

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<v Speaker 3>My sisters and I are like, that's our teddy bear.

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<v Speaker 4>Then there's Glenn, my other brother, who's very intelligent but

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<v Speaker 4>also slightly misogynist and like he's married to a Russian

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<v Speaker 4>woman who's a real Putin sympathizer. So I have a

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<v Speaker 4>little of a bit of a challenging relationship with that

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<v Speaker 4>part of the family.

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<v Speaker 3>I spent my last twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Five years going on vacation with my whole family, Like

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<v Speaker 4>I take a lot of pleasure and like taking my

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<v Speaker 4>whole family away. And after, like, you know, like four

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<v Speaker 4>years ago, I was like I'm wrapped. I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't marry this woman, Olga, you did you go

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<v Speaker 4>on vacation with her. I no longer want to finance

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<v Speaker 4>a vacation where I'm listening to Russian state propaganda, So

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<v Speaker 4>that relationships a little bit, you know, it's got some friction.

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<v Speaker 4>My sisters are Simone and Shashana, and my sister's a

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<v Speaker 4>healthcare attorney, and my other sister has her own ear

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<v Speaker 4>piercing company in New Jersey, and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Girls are always reyal tight.

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<v Speaker 4>Our whole family's pretty close and communicative.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, you know, are you the family alpha? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the organizer.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so Thanksgiving time.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's Thanksgiving time?

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<v Speaker 1>Thanksgiving start for you.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Thanksgiving time starts for me by telling my family

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<v Speaker 4>we're not celebrating together this year.

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<v Speaker 3>Leave me out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't care about holidays. I don't care about Christmas.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't like being told when to celebrate general.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I just I.

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<v Speaker 4>Find that all very annoying. Like I want to celebrate.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to have a life when I want to

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<v Speaker 4>have a life. I don't like when people are like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>today's Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just not into it. Butgiving whatever the hell.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I hopefully ski somewhere, but yeah, or

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<v Speaker 4>I'll go to a friend's house, Like, I just don't

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<v Speaker 4>like it to be I don't like the formality of that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. I want it to be casual and I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to do my own thing. But we do vacation

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<v Speaker 4>several times. I mean, we usually vacation over Christmas, like

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<v Speaker 4>for a long week, and then in the summer we'll

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<v Speaker 4>go to Martha's vineyard or something. Typically speaking, although in

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<v Speaker 4>the last couple of years, like I just said, I've

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<v Speaker 4>kind of taken ownership over.

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<v Speaker 3>My holidays again.

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm vacationing less with my family and more with myself.

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<v Speaker 1>You said, now you're even preparing for your set, Like

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<v Speaker 1>for you, like what is the process of honing your

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<v Speaker 1>skill set as far as having fresh material for a comedian,

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<v Speaker 1>which I know, like especially when all of you are

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<v Speaker 1>choosing from the same subjects, like your take on where

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<v Speaker 1>we are now, Like how do you what's that whole

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<v Speaker 1>creative process?

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<v Speaker 4>Like well, I think you know, for me personally, like

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<v Speaker 4>I've made a living by being myself. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 4>made a living off of my personality, which is not

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<v Speaker 4>something as a little kid even and knew I could do.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't even know that was possible. You know, when

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<v Speaker 4>you do stand up, you're writing your own script. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean some people in may of writers, but still there,

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's so important. Whether it's me writing books, whether

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<v Speaker 4>it's me doing my podcast Dear Chelsea, or whether it's

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<v Speaker 4>me doing stand up. These are all self generative, right,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all like they're all coming from me, And I

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<v Speaker 4>think that, you know, like I work really hard when

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<v Speaker 4>I work, and then I you know, don't work really hard.

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<v Speaker 3>When I don't work, I go and vacation.

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<v Speaker 4>Really hard, and I experience really hard because I want

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<v Speaker 4>to have experiences to talk about. Like you have to

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<v Speaker 4>live a life to gain the material to write books.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to live a life to gain the material

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<v Speaker 4>to write a set.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>I like, last year, I put out my my most

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<v Speaker 4>recent special on Netflix, and that means you start over

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<v Speaker 4>that you have to have a whole new hour of material.

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<v Speaker 4>So then you go into your life and you're like,

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<v Speaker 4>what haven't I talked about yet? What's happened in the

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<v Speaker 4>last year, you know, Just like I was telling you

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<v Speaker 4>about my family and my family vacations, like that's a

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<v Speaker 4>topic in my stand up, Like I started editing people

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<v Speaker 4>in my family. I'm like, listen, I didn't marry your wife.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not required to go.

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<v Speaker 4>I've extended my generosity for twenty five years. I want

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<v Speaker 4>to go on vacation with your kids, bring me your kids,

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<v Speaker 4>but you.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys stay back.

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<v Speaker 4>Or I want to go on vacation with my siblings

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<v Speaker 4>and none of their spouses, you know. Like I'm actually

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<v Speaker 4>setting different a set of rules now because I just

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<v Speaker 4>don't feel like doing that anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I'm a woman.

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<v Speaker 4>I pay for almost everything that my family does together,

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<v Speaker 4>and now I'm making the rules to fit what I desire,

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<v Speaker 4>and there's nothing wrong with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So maybe a decade and a half ago, I

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<v Speaker 2>was in the beginning process of maybe maybe will they

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<v Speaker 2>or won't they dating a comedian and someone put something

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<v Speaker 2>in my ear and I couldn't get rid of it,

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<v Speaker 2>which is basically they were like, you know, you've better

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<v Speaker 2>not never mess up, or you'll be part of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Set, right, And I almost think.

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<v Speaker 2>That I subconsciously sabotage the relationship so I could get

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<v Speaker 2>out of it. Do you find it hard to sort

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<v Speaker 2>of draw in people? And I don't mean like your

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<v Speaker 2>comedy circle or whoever your creative circle is, but do

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<v Speaker 2>they often have is that apprehension or are they slow

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<v Speaker 2>to come into your sphere for fear that they might

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<v Speaker 2>be the subject of your life, which is the stage.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure that that is something that lots of men

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<v Speaker 4>think about, if there's ever a chance of connecting with them.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure many men are like, oh god, I've talked.

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<v Speaker 4>I've spoken publicly about almost every relationship I've had, not everyone,

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<v Speaker 4>because some people who are private, like, if you're not

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<v Speaker 4>a public figure, I try to leave you out of

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<v Speaker 4>it because it's not fair.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you know, like I dated Joe Coy.

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<v Speaker 4>Who's also a median, so I've spoken about that publicly,

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<v Speaker 4>very limited. Nobody really knows why we broke up, but

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we were a very public relationship, so we

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<v Speaker 4>publicly broke up.

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<v Speaker 3>But I didn't drag him.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I would have done that probably ten years ago,

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<v Speaker 4>but now I'm a little bit more mature, So I

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<v Speaker 4>try not to humiliate men because I know, a my

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<v Speaker 4>feeling is a lot of men are already turned off

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<v Speaker 4>by me and my bold personality and the fact that

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<v Speaker 4>I'm confident. That turns a lot of men off sadly,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, instead of men going, oh my god, that's

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<v Speaker 4>a woman who knows what she wants and is confident.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I often say that, like, you know, we'll say like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to strong, will d d D D D

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<v Speaker 2>D da da da. But then in almost every situation,

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<v Speaker 2>the person that tells me that we'll have some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of buyers remorse later and I'm like, well, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with what you really want in relationship.

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<v Speaker 3>Because yeah, it looks good like what.

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<v Speaker 4>Paper, yeah, right, what you think you may not want

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<v Speaker 4>when it's put to the test. And it's real, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I'm an independent I don't really need a

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<v Speaker 4>lot from a guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You actually have to be a great guy and we

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<v Speaker 3>have to have great chemistry for you to be in

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<v Speaker 3>my life.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not like my standards are so high because I

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<v Speaker 4>really don't want to settle or have to for anything less.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know that's not a threat, that's just my truth.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I've been through gross guys and idiots, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 4>not doing that again. I'm too secure and I'm totally

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<v Speaker 4>fine also being single. Like I'm not one of those

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<v Speaker 4>women who's on dating apps every night going, oh, I

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<v Speaker 4>got to hook up, I got to find somebody, I

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<v Speaker 4>got to go on dates.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't operate like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So who's in your trusted circle then that you really trust,

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<v Speaker 2>like that knows where the bodies are buried?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what's the number?

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<v Speaker 3>A number of people? Probably like five people. Okay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but you know I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Not like a private person. Obviously, I'm not precious about

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<v Speaker 4>my privacy. I'm a very public I've always been very public.

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<v Speaker 4>That's kind of part.

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<v Speaker 3>Of my deal.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, there's not a lot of mystique here because

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<v Speaker 4>I'm always willing to talk about everything. So it's not

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<v Speaker 4>like I have a ton of secrets. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 4>out there. It's not like I have a ton of

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<v Speaker 4>like hidden stuff that only certain people know about.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's stuff that is in public.

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<v Speaker 4>But as far as like bodies being buried, like I

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<v Speaker 4>would have already outed myself on.

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<v Speaker 1>That, who's your first like life role model, like a

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<v Speaker 1>real life person that you know in your childhood, And

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<v Speaker 1>then I was going to say, who's your north star?

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<v Speaker 1>As far as creativity?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Like, I think my sister was my hero, my

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<v Speaker 4>oldest sister, Timoe, when I was growing up, because she

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<v Speaker 4>kind of played the role of my second mother.

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<v Speaker 3>She was my de facto mother. My parents were you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when you have six children, they're out to lunch.

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<v Speaker 4>They were exhausted. My mom slept like a cat throughout

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<v Speaker 4>my whole childhood. I mean they would forget to pick

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<v Speaker 4>me up from school. I'd walk home, like in the

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<v Speaker 4>middle of a blizzard, and I'd walk home and my

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<v Speaker 4>dad would be sitting at the kitchen table reading the

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<v Speaker 4>New York Times.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, hello, hello.

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<v Speaker 4>Devin, and I just walked home and a in a snowstorm.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, my sister was my hero.

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<v Speaker 4>Because she was kind of the one that mediated between

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<v Speaker 4>me and my father and my parents when our relationship

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<v Speaker 4>was more volatile as far as artists or creatives.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I grew up on The Cosby Show like

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<v Speaker 3>that was my show. I wanted to be part of

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<v Speaker 3>the family.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I considered myself to be a Huxtable. I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>Rudy and Vanessa to be my sister. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 4>fuck my brother, you know, not my real brother, but

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<v Speaker 4>my brother.

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<v Speaker 3>On the show.

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<v Speaker 4>And I love the idea that my father was a

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<v Speaker 4>guynecologist or an obgyn basically with those swinging kitchen doors

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<v Speaker 4>and those sitcoms in the way, it just felt like

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<v Speaker 4>the most idyllic childhood, right the Huxtables.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, that was it.

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<v Speaker 4>And then you know, we all know what happened with that,

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<v Speaker 4>So there you go for heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to say that watching Malcolm Jamal Warner vicariously,

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<v Speaker 2>I was him on that hill, right, And when he

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<v Speaker 2>passed away, I had to return to like dust off

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<v Speaker 2>my my my DVD player and break out the box

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<v Speaker 2>set and rewatch all eight seasons as a mournful process.

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<v Speaker 2>And I realized how much that show kind of pushed

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<v Speaker 2>me forward in life, you know, like I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>that we could live like that, and so, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 2>is a hurtful process if you get betrayed on that level,

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<v Speaker 2>like how do you how do you even deal or

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<v Speaker 2>return to it?

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<v Speaker 4>And so I was also also this is I've told

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<v Speaker 4>the story before, but maybe you haven't heard it. I

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<v Speaker 4>went to I was performing in Atlantic City doing stand

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<v Speaker 4>up and Bill Cosby was also performing in Atlantic City.

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<v Speaker 1>The end of the story.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, so this casino manager approaches me. I was doing

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<v Speaker 4>two nights. He was doing two nights. We were in

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<v Speaker 4>two different rooms.

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<v Speaker 3>And he calls me.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, we're performing in two different rooms. Obviously we

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<v Speaker 4>were staying in two different rooms. But the casino manager

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<v Speaker 4>approaches me. She's like, oh, Bill Cosby would like to

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<v Speaker 4>meet you. And I'm like twenty seven, twenty eight or no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>I was in my thirties because I was on Chelsea

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<v Speaker 4>Lately at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, They're like, Bill Cosby wants to

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<v Speaker 3>meet you.

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<v Speaker 4>He's you know, he wants you to come to his

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<v Speaker 4>hotel room at three pm. And I was like, oh

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<v Speaker 4>my god, are you kidding me? Bill Cosby knows who

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<v Speaker 4>I am? What And so I go up and I

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<v Speaker 4>brought the guy that was opening for me, who was

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<v Speaker 4>also on Chelsea Lately with me in one of the comics,

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<v Speaker 4>Chris Frangola. I had a security guard with me, and

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, guys, do you want to meet Bill Cosby?

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<v Speaker 3>Knowing nothing, knowing just like the more the merrier. We

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<v Speaker 3>go up. We knock on the door and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god, Oh my god, mister Huxtable's coming like this.

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<v Speaker 3>He opens the door.

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<v Speaker 4>Bill Cosby opens the door and you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he's got that great face, at least it used to

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<v Speaker 4>be great, and it was like, you know, that jello pudding.

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<v Speaker 3>Smile he had on his face. And he opens the

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<v Speaker 3>door and he's got this big smile and he doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>see the two guys that are standing next to me

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<v Speaker 3>because they were like to my right.

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<v Speaker 4>And I jump into Bill Cosby's arms. I'm like, dad,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm home. Like That's how I greeted him. And he

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<v Speaker 4>was holding on to me, and I was holding on

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<v Speaker 4>to him. He held on a little bit longer than

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<v Speaker 4>I and then and then I said, and these are

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<v Speaker 4>my friends, Chris, and then my security guard and.

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<v Speaker 3>His face dropped.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and we go in, and we go in and

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<v Speaker 4>we sit and it's like, you know, he's got this

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<v Speaker 4>huge suite and we're sitting. We sit down and he's like,

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<v Speaker 4>who are these guys, blah blah. I'm like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 4>this is Chris my opener. And he proceeds to go

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<v Speaker 4>in on Chris Frangola for opening for a woman and

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<v Speaker 4>telling him how he'll never be successful in comedy because

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<v Speaker 4>he's opening for a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, wait, what is this? Like I

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<v Speaker 3>thought we were being punked.

0:21:55.280 --> 0:21:58.040
<v Speaker 4>I was like, is this a And then you know,

0:21:58.080 --> 0:21:59.760
<v Speaker 4>at a certain point, I had to stand up for

0:21:59.840 --> 0:22:03.359
<v Speaker 4>my friend because he was just dragging him. And I

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:05.399
<v Speaker 4>finally went up and I'm like, you know what, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 4>We're out of here, Like we don't need to listen

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<v Speaker 4>to this.

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<v Speaker 3>This isn't pleasant or fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we got that serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, it was like it was really obnoxious.

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<v Speaker 4>So we walk out and that feeling of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you meet someone that you should you know, we couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>even speak to each other, the three of us.

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<v Speaker 3>We walked down the hall out out of his room

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<v Speaker 3>and we're all just like, you know, speechless.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm very grateful that I had the enough intuition

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<v Speaker 4>to bring people with me.

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<v Speaker 2>I think what people don't know when they look at

0:22:49.359 --> 0:22:52.040
<v Speaker 2>your life as a goldfish or as a person that's

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.440
<v Speaker 2>separate from their lives, is that you.

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<v Speaker 1>Haven't met that. It's easy.

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<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you what was your version of air

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<v Speaker 2>quote making it when you were ten years old? What

0:23:05.000 --> 0:23:08.840
<v Speaker 2>was your version of what you thought success was going

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<v Speaker 2>to be?

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<v Speaker 4>First class? And like being flying first class at ten

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<v Speaker 4>years old? I went on my first flight and I

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<v Speaker 4>walked past the first class section and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?

0:23:19.800 --> 0:23:22.080
<v Speaker 4>Who are these people right here? Like this looks like

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<v Speaker 4>my group? And my mother was like, keep walking, sweetheart,

0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:27.959
<v Speaker 4>that is not our group. That will never be our group.

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.960
<v Speaker 4>We have six children. We will never be able to

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<v Speaker 4>afford to fly first class. And I was like, fuck

0:23:33.680 --> 0:23:37.160
<v Speaker 4>that shit. I'm like, the next time I fly, that's

0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:39.920
<v Speaker 4>where I'm sitting. And it took me about three years

0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 4>of saving up babysitting money and lemonade stand money. But

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<v Speaker 4>when I took my next flight, I was thirteen years old,

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:50.080
<v Speaker 4>and guess who sat in tuc while my family sat

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<v Speaker 4>all the way and coach, wait.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you do this independent of them as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I went down the street.

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<v Speaker 4>We had a neighbor who was a travel agent. I

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<v Speaker 4>bought my own first class ticket. It was something like

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<v Speaker 4>eighteen hundred dollars. It was like nineteen. It would have

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<v Speaker 4>been nineteen eighty eight because I was thirteen flying from

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:13.480
<v Speaker 4>We're flying from Newark to LA. I had grandparents that

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<v Speaker 4>lived in LA and I bought my own first class ticket.

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<v Speaker 4>And I didn't tell anyone because I was flying with

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<v Speaker 4>my two brothers, Glenn and Roy, and I want I

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<v Speaker 4>could not wait to see the looks on their faces

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<v Speaker 4>when I sat down in my seat.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't wait.

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<v Speaker 4>And when I did, I stopped and I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, thirteen years old, but acting like I was,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, forty.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like a businesswoman. I had a briefcase. I

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.640
<v Speaker 3>was like in California, I had kidneys.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to dress up back then, correct, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well you didn't have to, but I wanted to.

0:24:46.000 --> 0:24:47.800
<v Speaker 2>I was told you had to dress up. If you

0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:50.880
<v Speaker 2>said I had to wear suits until yeah, that.

0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Was like the SEVENTI yeah, I guess that was the

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.680
<v Speaker 4>eighties two when people dressed up. But I sat down

0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:58.000
<v Speaker 4>in tuc My brothers thought I was joking. I put

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<v Speaker 4>my little briefcase in the over had been with my

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:05.520
<v Speaker 4>little Barbie, you know, backpack and for my week in California,

0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.359
<v Speaker 4>we were going to Disneyland, and my brothers are like

0:25:08.480 --> 0:25:10.560
<v Speaker 4>looking at me, and I just showed them my ticket

0:25:10.600 --> 0:25:12.040
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, I'll see you counts at the

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 4>end of the flight, and then I went back to

0:25:14.840 --> 0:25:18.040
<v Speaker 4>coach where they belonged. And at one point my brother

0:25:18.160 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 4>came up to the first class like we were up

0:25:20.600 --> 0:25:22.120
<v Speaker 4>in the air for like an hour. You know, I'm

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:24.360
<v Speaker 4>enjoying a glass of champagne because they don't know how

0:25:24.359 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 4>old I am. And my brother comes up to my

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 4>seat and he's like, you can't do that.

0:25:29.160 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 3>You can't do that. I go, I can't do what

0:25:31.280 --> 0:25:31.600
<v Speaker 3>he goes.

0:25:31.640 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 4>You can't fly first class without giving it to You

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:36.000
<v Speaker 4>can't buy a first class ticket and not give it

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:38.640
<v Speaker 4>to one of us or mom. And I'm like, are

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:42.600
<v Speaker 4>you I go, what are you serious? Get the fuck

0:25:42.640 --> 0:25:45.399
<v Speaker 4>out of my face. I'm like, you're ten years older

0:25:45.400 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 4>than me. I'm thirteen, you're twenty three years old, and

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:52.119
<v Speaker 4>I figured out how to do this before you did. No,

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.040
<v Speaker 4>thank you, sir. And I'm like, I don't even know

0:25:54.040 --> 0:25:55.159
<v Speaker 4>how you got up in this section.

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<v Speaker 3>Go back to your robe.

0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Please behind the curtain.

0:25:58.200 --> 0:25:59.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, get back on the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>What unfair rule was implemented in your childhood? Don't go

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<v Speaker 2>out past eleven?

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know.

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:12.800
<v Speaker 4>If this wasn't I don't know if this was unfair,

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:16.879
<v Speaker 4>but I got caught. I got when my girlfriends and

0:26:16.920 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 4>I were like eight years old, we did what was

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 4>called the feeling, where you would basically masturbate but over

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.399
<v Speaker 4>your clothes so everyone would call. You would just like

0:26:26.480 --> 0:26:30.240
<v Speaker 4>rub your vagina but over your genes. Actually, the thicker

0:26:30.280 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 4>the material, the better the traction, so you wanted more attraction,

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.679
<v Speaker 4>so you would never actually touch your vagina directly, but

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 4>we would do it in school. We would use rulers.

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:40.960
<v Speaker 4>We would just all be like, are you going to

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.280
<v Speaker 4>get the feeling? During math class? Like whenever we could

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 4>try and hide it. So I got pretty confident about

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 4>getting the feeling. I'd go home and I'd lie down

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:51.320
<v Speaker 4>in front of like an ottoman and kind of shade

0:26:51.320 --> 0:26:53.760
<v Speaker 4>my body so that I could, like, you know, just

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 4>watch General Hospital and masturbate the whole time. And then

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.400
<v Speaker 4>my parents caught me, and I guess they had known

0:27:00.480 --> 0:27:01.560
<v Speaker 4>for some time that I was.

0:27:01.520 --> 0:27:04.640
<v Speaker 3>Doing it, but I thought it was unfair, and they.

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 4>Were like, you cannot masturbate in the living room anymore.

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 1>They shamed you.

0:27:08.760 --> 0:27:11.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, totally shamed me because I was starting to

0:27:11.600 --> 0:27:15.560
<v Speaker 4>use appliances like spoons, like a wooden spoon or you know,

0:27:15.640 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 4>I would see a corner of a wall and I'd

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 4>go up to that. I was getting a little carried

0:27:19.600 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 4>away in truth. So they told me I couldn't masturbate

0:27:23.320 --> 0:27:24.400
<v Speaker 4>at home anymore, or.

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:25.920
<v Speaker 3>No in the living room.

0:27:25.960 --> 0:27:27.560
<v Speaker 4>They're like, if you want to do that, save it

0:27:27.640 --> 0:27:29.640
<v Speaker 4>for the privacy of your own room. And I thought

0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.119
<v Speaker 4>that was unfair because I was just experimenting with my

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 4>body and finding out what my desires were.

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>Wow, this is not the answer I was expecting. Wow.

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>So no master being with our utensils or I know.

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:45.960
<v Speaker 4>And also I felt like keeping my clothes on was

0:27:46.000 --> 0:27:49.639
<v Speaker 4>the first step, you know, like, that's pretty respectful being.

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're being respectful. Absolutely. Are there any mementos or

0:27:54.840 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 1>toys from your childhood that you've kept this entire time?

0:27:58.720 --> 0:28:02.760
<v Speaker 4>Not toys, I would to say, but mementos, yes, like

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 4>you know, school pictures or family lots of family stuff,

0:28:07.200 --> 0:28:08.960
<v Speaker 4>like when you have such a big family, We had

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 4>like a lot of fun ridiculousness, you know, it was

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:15.720
<v Speaker 4>always chaos. And we had this summer house in Martha's

0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.400
<v Speaker 4>Vineyard and so we have a lot of.

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:18.240
<v Speaker 3>Fun up there.

0:28:18.720 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, Like and we always had dogs, like, we

0:28:21.560 --> 0:28:23.720
<v Speaker 4>always had a family dog. So I have a lot

0:28:23.760 --> 0:28:27.239
<v Speaker 4>of like memories from that and mementos like pictures of

0:28:27.280 --> 0:28:30.159
<v Speaker 4>my childhood dogs and stuff. But as far as like

0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:34.399
<v Speaker 4>actual mementos or toys, no, I don't think I'm not

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 4>like sentimental like that, Like I'm not somebody who saves

0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:39.800
<v Speaker 4>a lot of stuff. All I care about is anything

0:28:39.800 --> 0:28:42.960
<v Speaker 4>that's in writing, like a card or a photo. Those

0:28:42.960 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 4>are the things that mean the most to me.

0:28:44.920 --> 0:28:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, wait, you can't say that you're not sentimental, because

0:28:48.600 --> 0:28:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I would assume that for you. I mean you've written

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>seven books, correct, yes, seven books, and what you do

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:00.880
<v Speaker 2>for a living is recalling the past. So I mean

0:29:00.920 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>there's a part of you that has to be somewhat sentimental.

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean sentimental it lends that that word kind

0:29:08.160 --> 0:29:11.440
<v Speaker 3>of means that you're holding onto the past in this

0:29:11.520 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of Yeah.

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 4>Well, it's just like you know, it's like I miss it.

0:29:16.640 --> 0:29:19.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's more of a reflective than it is sentimental,

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.000
<v Speaker 4>Like it's more of a I mind it for material.

0:29:23.320 --> 0:29:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there are parts of it that I am

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 4>sentimental about, you know, like my brother who passed away.

0:29:27.840 --> 0:29:30.920
<v Speaker 4>Of course I'm sentimental about his stuff, and I do

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.000
<v Speaker 4>have a couple of his things actually, But like I

0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:37.080
<v Speaker 4>find the word sentimental to mean, like, oh, I get

0:29:37.120 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 4>emotional when I think about things, Like a lot of

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:43.440
<v Speaker 4>things are just references and reflections that I take with me,

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:45.840
<v Speaker 4>and my past is so much a part of who

0:29:45.880 --> 0:29:48.800
<v Speaker 4>I am, Like I had to be salty to survive.

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 4>I had to have a big personality to be heard,

0:29:52.560 --> 0:29:55.640
<v Speaker 4>and so it's part of the fabric of who I am.

0:29:56.040 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Can you tell me a story of the worst time

0:29:57.960 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>you ever got in trouble in your childhood?

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:03.720
<v Speaker 3>Oh? Well, I mean there were a couple. I once

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 3>had a party at my house.

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.640
<v Speaker 4>My dad was actually in the hospital, and I was

0:30:07.680 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 4>like perfect, and we have the house free. And I

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:13.080
<v Speaker 4>was like in seventh grade and I had a huge

0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 4>party at my house and everyone just started taking stuff

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 4>from my house, and the cops came.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Like people were.

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 4>Stealing stuff like pieces of furniture and then the cops came.

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 4>And when the cops came out, I was like, I'm

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 4>out of here too, and I left my own party

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 4>and went and hit at our elementary school in the

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 4>woods until they left, because I didn't want to get

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 4>in trouble.

0:30:33.680 --> 0:30:36.240
<v Speaker 2>So you thought you could get her away with so

0:30:36.320 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 2>obviously you raised on like eighties, nineties teen movies, like

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>you thought you could get away with us.

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally. I was like, Oh, if they don't see me,

0:30:44.320 --> 0:30:45.520
<v Speaker 3>then they can't prove I was there.

0:30:45.600 --> 0:30:47.280
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, where are your parents? Did you? What

0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>did your parents do for a living?

0:30:49.120 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 4>My dad was a used car dealer and my mom

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 4>was like a home health care nurse, but she didn't work.

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 4>She only worked when my dad's business was doing pretty badly,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 4>which was quite often because he was he was a

0:31:00.920 --> 0:31:03.680
<v Speaker 4>used car dealer, but he didn't have like a place

0:31:03.720 --> 0:31:06.360
<v Speaker 4>of business. He just sold cars out of our driveway.

0:31:06.600 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 4>So our driveway was like this big circular driveway covered

0:31:10.000 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 4>in these terrible geloppies, like there would be tire irons

0:31:14.000 --> 0:31:17.040
<v Speaker 4>and tires and everything was just strewn. It looked like

0:31:17.040 --> 0:31:18.920
<v Speaker 4>like the front yard of Sanford and Son.

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:20.480
<v Speaker 1>So they were sentiment.

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Well, my dad was I mean or he just couldn't

0:31:23.080 --> 0:31:25.560
<v Speaker 4>sell a car, depending on how you look.

0:31:25.360 --> 0:31:26.240
<v Speaker 1>At it, got it.

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:30.280
<v Speaker 2>So wait, what happened when when you got found out?

0:31:30.600 --> 0:31:31.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I mean I got in trouble.

0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:34.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean the police found me in the woods, like

0:31:34.200 --> 0:31:36.800
<v Speaker 4>we were all gathered there together. We had no experience

0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:40.000
<v Speaker 4>in like dodging the police or anything. Another embarrassing thing.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:44.400
<v Speaker 4>I got caught shoplifting at Sears. Remember Sears. I don't

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 4>know Sears still exists, maybe.

0:31:46.440 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>But I got caught shoplifting.

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 4>But bras and underwear. First of all, it's like a

0:31:50.640 --> 0:31:54.280
<v Speaker 4>home appliance store, so buying bras and underwear from Sears.

0:31:54.040 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 3>Is already off.

0:31:55.280 --> 0:31:59.360
<v Speaker 4>And my girlfriend and I, Jill, got caught shoplifting and

0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 4>then I had to go and that was really shameful,

0:32:01.680 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 4>Like my mom wouldn't even talk to me for a week.

0:32:03.520 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 3>She was like, that is so gross that you went

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:06.320
<v Speaker 3>and stole.

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 4>And my dad had to take me to these shoplifting

0:32:09.200 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 4>classes where you had to get up and the father

0:32:11.720 --> 0:32:13.840
<v Speaker 4>was like, I am the father of a shoplifter.

0:32:15.360 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 3>And then I had to go out.

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>You had to take the photo in like the were

0:32:19.200 --> 0:32:20.120
<v Speaker 1>they hanging in the back?

0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And then I had to get up and be like,

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 4>I'm a shoplifter, and then you have to talk about

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:28.320
<v Speaker 4>what you shoplifted. And mine was like a red bra

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.560
<v Speaker 4>and underwear panty set. And I was in seventh grade.

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:32.040
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

0:32:32.080 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 4>I mean, who's buying launcherie from Seers? Like none of

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:36.280
<v Speaker 4>it made any sense at all.

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Ah, Okay, what's the last thing that you cooked for yourself?

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:46.320
<v Speaker 3>Oh? This is I did this the other night.

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 4>I was staying with a girlfriend because my house is

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.720
<v Speaker 4>under construction, So I was staying with a girlfriend and

0:32:52.120 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 4>she cooks, she can cook. I was staying with her

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:57.320
<v Speaker 4>for about a month, and I wanted to not leave

0:32:57.400 --> 0:32:59.840
<v Speaker 4>until she taught me how to cook at least one thing.

0:33:00.160 --> 0:33:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I am terrible in the kitchen. I'm very bad with instructions.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 4>If you'd give me the instructions, it's very hard for.

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Me to follow through.

0:33:07.720 --> 0:33:12.040
<v Speaker 4>So I wanted to cook chicken pacata, and we cooked

0:33:12.040 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 4>it together with her help.

0:33:14.240 --> 0:33:16.520
<v Speaker 3>She did probably about seventy percent of the work.

0:33:16.600 --> 0:33:19.880
<v Speaker 4>I did about thirty percent, and it's still tasted like garbage.

0:33:20.680 --> 0:33:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Got it? What restaurant would you fly across.

0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 3>The world for Kespatra March.

0:33:28.760 --> 0:33:30.320
<v Speaker 1>Is that that's.

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:36.520
<v Speaker 4>That's a restaurant in Mayorca in Day of Mayorca. I

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 4>have a house in Myorca and we go there. We

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 4>ride our bikes to this restaurant. It's up this huge

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 4>hill and then you ride down and it's right on

0:33:44.560 --> 0:33:48.040
<v Speaker 4>the water, so you're sitting on the Mediterranean while you

0:33:48.120 --> 0:33:52.000
<v Speaker 4>eat the most fresh fish and fried onion. They put

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:55.000
<v Speaker 4>these little fried onion rings on everything that they serve,

0:33:55.320 --> 0:33:58.400
<v Speaker 4>so you get this beautiful like dorado fish or sea

0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 4>bream or whatever you're into. And then they have these

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:03.600
<v Speaker 4>crispy onion rings that they put everywhere, and then you

0:34:03.640 --> 0:34:06.959
<v Speaker 4>can jump off from your table into the sea and

0:34:07.000 --> 0:34:08.360
<v Speaker 4>it's this beautiful cave.

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just heaven on earth.

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 1>I want to go to this.

0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, come anytime. I'm going for the month of October

0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:15.560
<v Speaker 3>quest You're welcome to join me.

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 2>So you're big on vacations and break and self care, yeah,

0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 2>I take it.

0:34:23.960 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Okay.

0:34:24.719 --> 0:34:31.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm a person who is notoriously known for, you know,

0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>filling up every second of the day with I don't

0:34:37.080 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>see it as work.

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a passion to me, but I was.

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:44.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, when you start dating, you you're forced to

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>go on vacations, and it was hard for me to

0:34:49.840 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 2>not work. Convince me why taking vacations are important.

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:57.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh my god, I mean, listen, there's always a little work,

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 4>like I'm always always a little bit working, Like I need.

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.960
<v Speaker 3>To just decompress. I need My life is crazy, as

0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure yours is. All of our lives are crazy.

0:35:07.880 --> 0:35:11.120
<v Speaker 4>It's just so important to get to a point where

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.319
<v Speaker 4>you feel recharged, where you feel like where you can

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:17.680
<v Speaker 4>just take your stress. Because first of all, you go

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:20.359
<v Speaker 4>on vacation for a week, you don't start relaxing until

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:21.640
<v Speaker 4>like the fifth or sixth.

0:35:21.440 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 3>Day, and then you're leaving the next day.

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 4>That's why I go on vacation for a month, because

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:28.560
<v Speaker 4>I take a first week to adjust, and then I

0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 4>can actually chill out. I can read a book and concentrate.

0:35:32.440 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 4>I can go on a bike ride for two hours

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:36.160
<v Speaker 4>without thinking about a million things.

0:35:36.440 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>Like.

0:35:36.640 --> 0:35:39.719
<v Speaker 3>To me, vacation is letting your mind not run you.

0:35:40.239 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 4>To me, vacation is like getting so relaxed that it

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.480
<v Speaker 4>doesn't matter which way the wind blows. You might go

0:35:45.560 --> 0:35:47.719
<v Speaker 4>to dinner that night, you might just sit at home.

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:49.760
<v Speaker 4>You might stay in bed all day and watch TV.

0:35:50.239 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 4>You might be out in the ocean all day. Like

0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.160
<v Speaker 4>to not have a plan and let see where the

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 4>day takes you. That's my idea of a vacation, to

0:35:58.239 --> 0:35:59.799
<v Speaker 4>not have anything regimented.

0:36:00.239 --> 0:36:02.720
<v Speaker 1>What is your preferred month of not working?

0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 3>It could be any month.

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I like working during the summer because it's

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 4>gotten so hot, so it's like I don't enjoy that.

0:36:09.560 --> 0:36:12.080
<v Speaker 3>Being in the heat and vacation. But I love the

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:13.280
<v Speaker 3>winter to ski.

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.120
<v Speaker 4>I go to Canada in the winter to do my skiing,

0:36:16.239 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 4>So I base myself out of Whistler, Canada for like

0:36:18.800 --> 0:36:20.160
<v Speaker 4>four months in the wintertime.

0:36:20.560 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>That's also part vacation.

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I do my podcast from there, and I'll

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:27.720
<v Speaker 4>be on tour from there. But it's just a different

0:36:27.840 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 4>kind of I like to change the channel a lot,

0:36:30.320 --> 0:36:32.759
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I get bored being in

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.720
<v Speaker 4>the same place. I find La to be a little

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 4>bit sleepy. I find New York to be much more stimulative.

0:36:39.920 --> 0:36:44.800
<v Speaker 4>And then I split my time between Spain and Canada.

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:49.000
<v Speaker 1>All right, So have you ever gotten lost in another country? Yeah?

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:49.520
<v Speaker 3>All the time.

0:36:49.560 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 4>I got lost on a vespa in France for an

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 4>hour and a half in a bathing suit on a

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 4>freeway with eighteen wheelers driving by me because I couldn't

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.200
<v Speaker 4>even follow direction. With my friends, We're all on vespos,

0:37:01.360 --> 0:37:03.560
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, just had my head in the clouds.

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:04.959
<v Speaker 4>I was like, oh, I guess I'll make a left

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 4>here when no one else made a left and I

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 4>got on a major freeway. I was in beer Ritz, France,

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:13.080
<v Speaker 4>and I got on a major freeway and could not

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:16.360
<v Speaker 4>get off of it for miles and miles, and a

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 4>vespa only goes like forty five miles an hour at tops,

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:23.680
<v Speaker 4>and these cars are blowing past me, beeping like, get

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 4>out of the lane, get out of the lane. So

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 4>I was a very dumb American on that trip. But

0:37:27.880 --> 0:37:29.840
<v Speaker 4>I get lost all the time. Quest I have no

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:32.359
<v Speaker 4>sense of direction all right?

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:35.720
<v Speaker 1>When traveling? Are you a window or an out seat person?

0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't really matter.

0:37:37.440 --> 0:37:39.279
<v Speaker 4>I'll probably because I have to pee a lot, so

0:37:39.280 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 4>it's easier for me not to walk over anybody.

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, when all is said and done, what city would

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:47.360
<v Speaker 2>you like to retire in?

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:51.600
<v Speaker 4>Probably I mean somewhere. I'd probably like to live out

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:55.160
<v Speaker 4>my last days in my Orca. Yeah, that's pretty much

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:56.600
<v Speaker 4>in my happy magic place.

0:37:57.440 --> 0:37:58.319
<v Speaker 1>What is it about it?

0:38:00.040 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just.

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 4>So I love to be on the water. I love

0:38:04.160 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 4>to hear water when I'm sleeping. I love to be

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:10.120
<v Speaker 4>in the water. I love to sail. I just love

0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 4>that whole vibe like outdoorsy. And the great thing about

0:38:14.120 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 4>my house in my Orca is it's got this huge

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.279
<v Speaker 4>outdoor terrace, so it's like you kind of don't even

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 4>have to leave the house to feel like you're part

0:38:21.200 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 4>of Like there's this little port and all these shops

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:27.240
<v Speaker 4>and restaurants and people are always walking back and forth.

0:38:27.600 --> 0:38:30.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm bringing my dog this time so he can experience

0:38:31.120 --> 0:38:32.680
<v Speaker 3>like the magic of it.

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:34.680
<v Speaker 4>We got him a life jacket so we can go

0:38:34.760 --> 0:38:37.760
<v Speaker 4>into the Mediterranean and throw him off of a paddle

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:41.279
<v Speaker 4>board or a catamaran, whatever we decide. But also New

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.120
<v Speaker 4>York I think like in terms of you know, New

0:38:44.200 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 4>York is so stimulating that I think as you get older,

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.040
<v Speaker 4>that really is the place to live, because you can't

0:38:49.560 --> 0:38:52.239
<v Speaker 4>really La is too sleepy to get older, you know

0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:54.360
<v Speaker 4>what I mean. I could die early here just from

0:38:54.760 --> 0:38:57.239
<v Speaker 4>being so lazy. When I come here, it's almost like

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.720
<v Speaker 4>a rehab. Like I sleep a lot, I get healthy,

0:39:00.920 --> 0:39:03.520
<v Speaker 4>I work out all the time. New York I'm out

0:39:03.560 --> 0:39:06.000
<v Speaker 4>and about, you know, there's a lot more fomo there.

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>What time do you normally go to bed?

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 4>I go to bed pretty early in LA, Like I

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 4>go to bed around ten ten thirty in LA. I mean, listen,

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:14.759
<v Speaker 4>this weekend, let's be honest. I went out to a

0:39:14.760 --> 0:39:17.120
<v Speaker 4>party and I got home at six am on Saturday morning.

0:39:17.360 --> 0:39:18.920
<v Speaker 3>But that was an anomaly for me.

0:39:19.400 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 4>I usually don't do that, so that was really fun

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:24.759
<v Speaker 4>because I hadn't done that in a long time.

0:39:24.960 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>So you don't go as heavy as he used to

0:39:27.080 --> 0:39:27.799
<v Speaker 1>go in.

0:39:27.719 --> 0:39:29.040
<v Speaker 3>Your oh oh no no.

0:39:29.200 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 4>I like day partying, Like I like to go out

0:39:31.200 --> 0:39:33.600
<v Speaker 4>to a fun lunch. I'd like to go do something.

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Early at night.

0:39:34.400 --> 0:39:36.839
<v Speaker 4>It's kind of why I love ski culture, because you

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 4>get up early, you go skiing, you have a little

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:42.720
<v Speaker 4>margarita juice boost at around eleven thirty in the morning,

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:45.920
<v Speaker 4>then you have app ray around three thirty, and that

0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 4>kind of counts as my dinner, and then I'm home

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:50.520
<v Speaker 4>and bed by like eight o'clock, and I get up

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:52.719
<v Speaker 4>in the morning and do it all again. So I

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 4>kind of like that lifestyle. But I mean there's a

0:39:56.360 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 4>lot of lifestyles I like.

0:40:10.160 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So practical Advice twenty twenty is what I consider

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:20.600
<v Speaker 2>to be. You know, we might be living through another

0:40:20.640 --> 0:40:24.360
<v Speaker 2>type of pandemic, a spiritual pandemic. But twenty twenty for

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.759
<v Speaker 2>me was a crucial year of what I consider like

0:40:27.840 --> 0:40:31.680
<v Speaker 2>my BC eighty years in terms of I wasn't the

0:40:31.719 --> 0:40:35.319
<v Speaker 2>same person now than I was before then.

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.279
<v Speaker 1>So twenty twenty was a pivotal change for me.

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>What was different for you in your life now post

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty that you're still implementing.

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I don't think anyone is really recovered from that.

0:40:49.239 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 4>I mean I don't think you know, the work ethic

0:40:51.680 --> 0:40:53.920
<v Speaker 4>is not the same for a lot of people. People

0:40:53.960 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 4>don't want to go back to work. They didn't want

0:40:55.680 --> 0:40:58.040
<v Speaker 4>to go back to work for a while, so there's.

0:40:57.840 --> 0:40:58.800
<v Speaker 3>That in the air.

0:40:59.120 --> 0:41:03.120
<v Speaker 4>In general, there's a kind of malaise about working hard.

0:41:03.600 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>So you're not as hustle based now as you were

0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:07.120
<v Speaker 1>before twenty twenty.

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 4>No, I didn't impact me as much. Like I mean,

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I grew up as a hustler. So I'm from New Jersey, Like,

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.760
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to get that out of me. What city,

0:41:16.960 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Livingstone and they it's by like Montclair, Like we's Caldwell. Okay, No,

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 4>but I mean I think just the reflection of so

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:30.480
<v Speaker 4>many like whether it's gen Z or what you know,

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:35.040
<v Speaker 4>millennials or their attitude from COVID. You kind of absorb it,

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:38.600
<v Speaker 4>or you're constantly exposed to the fact that people liked

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.760
<v Speaker 4>not going into work, people liked the virtual life, people

0:41:41.920 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 4>liked talking like this rather than being in person. I

0:41:44.960 --> 0:41:47.600
<v Speaker 4>would always choose to be in person with people. That's

0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 4>just my preference. I feel like there's much more of

0:41:50.680 --> 0:41:55.760
<v Speaker 4>a connection. So but my life, my life has a change.

0:41:55.840 --> 0:41:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I would say I'm busier now than I

0:41:58.040 --> 0:41:59.360
<v Speaker 4>was before twenty twenty.

0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.080
<v Speaker 3>That was, like, you know, I'm.

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:04.640
<v Speaker 4>Busier now without a talk show than I was when

0:42:04.640 --> 0:42:07.000
<v Speaker 4>I had a talk show, which doesn't really make a

0:42:07.040 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 4>lot of sense to me, but.

0:42:08.600 --> 0:42:11.839
<v Speaker 3>Somehow it's true. So I don't know.

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:15.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, that whole pandemic, it just changed our country

0:42:15.840 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 4>and our like you know, it changed the whole world.

0:42:18.760 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>But on a personal level, I don't feel so changed

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:25.359
<v Speaker 3>by it. I felt more of an observer of it

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:28.160
<v Speaker 3>rather than in the thick of it. I wasn't upset

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:28.640
<v Speaker 3>by it.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.760
<v Speaker 4>It didn't freak me out, I wasn't scared. I welcomed

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 4>the break quite frankly.

0:42:33.080 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 3>I liked it. I read a lot of books, and

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I took a lot of mushrooms. Same.

0:42:38.480 --> 0:42:41.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, we're going to be friends, Chelsea. What book

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 1>would you say probably changed your life?

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>What was a paradigm shift for you? Hmmm, or at

0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.200
<v Speaker 2>least the author that pushed you.

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, letting Go.

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.480
<v Speaker 4>There's a book called Letting Go by David Hawkings that

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 4>I always talk about.

0:42:57.880 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 3>That book. Have you read that.

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 2>Somebody was explaining to me, you know, like his enlightened,

0:43:04.520 --> 0:43:08.000
<v Speaker 2>like his number system that he has as far as

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>our vibration. Yes, okay, So someone was explaining that to

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.200
<v Speaker 2>me and they sent me a clip and then the

0:43:16.239 --> 0:43:21.840
<v Speaker 2>next thing I know, I fell down a vicious rabbit

0:43:21.920 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>hole and damn near his So I'm reading his entire anthology,

0:43:28.200 --> 0:43:33.120
<v Speaker 2>if you will, and anything he's ever written I've read over.

0:43:33.440 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Like him and Neville Goddard are my two go tos?

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh Okay, I don't know him. Nevill Goddard. I'll have

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:40.719
<v Speaker 3>to look him up.

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>Number one, I'm working on a movie right now in

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<v Speaker 2>which the lead subject it's a documentary, but he believes

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<v Speaker 2>in metaphysics and you know, the idea of positive thinking, affirmations, breathing, meditation,

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>all those things, and so in order to understand that subject,

0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I had to at least I took about a year

0:44:06.560 --> 0:44:10.160
<v Speaker 2>off just to read all the metaphysical so between like

0:44:10.239 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 2>Joe Despenza and but David Hawkins to me is God

0:44:16.400 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>of them all.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, yeah, it's fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>It's fascinating to stuff to be like because it's scientific,

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 4>but you know, it doesn't get as much airtime because

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 4>it's not as easily measurable. You know what the ideas

0:44:28.520 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 4>that he's talking about, even though they are scientific and

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:31.759
<v Speaker 4>they are measurable.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you find it hard to talk about this with

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<v Speaker 1>other people?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean I just frame it in the way

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 4>that energy is. You know, like you're going there's a

0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:45.000
<v Speaker 4>magnetic attraction. If you're going to put out positive energy,

0:44:45.239 --> 0:44:47.279
<v Speaker 4>that's usually what you're going to get back. If you

0:44:47.400 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 4>practice being positive, if you practice being upbeat, that becomes

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 4>infectious and contagious.

0:44:52.760 --> 0:44:55.000
<v Speaker 3>If you're negative, that's what you attract.

0:44:55.120 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 4>Like, I mean, how many times have we sat around

0:44:57.040 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 4>feeling sorry for ourselves or being negative and and then

0:45:00.200 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 4>you just draw more negativity towards you. So it is like,

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:08.320
<v Speaker 4>it's it's pretty powerful to understand like the laws of attraction,

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 4>and to understand that you can like higher your frequency,

0:45:12.040 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 4>like you can get on a higher frequency, and the

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 4>higher your frequency is, the more good that comes your

0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:21.280
<v Speaker 4>way and the more people that you're able to positively impact.

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<v Speaker 3>I find that to be just like the kind of

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:24.919
<v Speaker 3>point of that.

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<v Speaker 4>Whole book is to really let go of the negative,

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<v Speaker 4>like let things go, do not resist reality. Something doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>work out your way, that's okay, make a left you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I mean, that didn't work out. Don't sit

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<v Speaker 4>there and bemoan that it didn't work out over and

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<v Speaker 4>over and over again.

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<v Speaker 3>Move forward.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're big on pivots.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm big on pivots, all right.

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:50.400
<v Speaker 1>So how do you handle what I call the F word?

0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:55.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm a reform perfectionist, and so for me, I would

0:45:55.200 --> 0:46:01.360
<v Speaker 2>take failure very hard, like obsessively reading every record review,

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:06.640
<v Speaker 2>every show review, writing angry letters to you know you

0:46:06.840 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 2>want you know. And it took me maybe half a

0:46:12.560 --> 0:46:18.400
<v Speaker 2>decade like to finally not to let that go. But

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:22.320
<v Speaker 2>for you, how do you so now when something doesn't work?

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:26.360
<v Speaker 2>I almost I think I've convinced myself that when I

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<v Speaker 2>see the F work, failure is a gift because technically

0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:31.680
<v Speaker 2>it's it's a teachable lesson.

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<v Speaker 1>But for you, how do you handle failure? Well in

0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 1>the lightest way.

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:41.800
<v Speaker 2>You're a comedian, so sometimes every joke doesn't work, and

0:46:41.880 --> 0:46:45.400
<v Speaker 2>so how do you handle it in that sense? And

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<v Speaker 2>then I want to know, how do you handle a

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<v Speaker 2>major perceived failure?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean a joke not working is not a

0:46:52.320 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 4>huge failure. That's a part of the work. Like, that's

0:46:54.680 --> 0:46:56.440
<v Speaker 4>a part of trial and error, you know, that's my

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 4>job is to test things out, see if they work,

0:46:59.320 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 4>and then you know, let go of something if it

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:01.800
<v Speaker 4>doesn't work.

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:03.880
<v Speaker 3>As far as a failure.

0:47:03.680 --> 0:47:06.880
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, trying to do something it not working, Yeah,

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.839
<v Speaker 4>those hit they can hint a little harder. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>also like, you know, I just have this kind of philosophy.

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a bummer. You can be okay, you know,

0:47:14.920 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 4>bummed out for a day or two, but I'm not

0:47:16.640 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 4>going to get angry.

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:20.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to get motivated. I'm going to like, you know,

0:47:20.920 --> 0:47:23.520
<v Speaker 3>re pivot. I'm going to figure out what the next

0:47:23.560 --> 0:47:24.000
<v Speaker 3>thing is.

0:47:24.040 --> 0:47:26.840
<v Speaker 4>Like you can't, you know, I just don't have the

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:28.480
<v Speaker 4>patience or the time.

0:47:28.200 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 3>To be in victim mode for too long. So if

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:32.960
<v Speaker 3>something doesn't work out.

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<v Speaker 4>First of all, most things, you know, I understand a

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:40.319
<v Speaker 4>review is personal or feels personal, I should say, but

0:47:40.480 --> 0:47:43.080
<v Speaker 4>most of that shit isn't personal. Most of that shit

0:47:43.200 --> 0:47:46.480
<v Speaker 4>is about somebody else's bullshit. And like if someone doesn't

0:47:46.600 --> 0:47:48.600
<v Speaker 4>like me, or if I don't sell a project that

0:47:48.640 --> 0:47:51.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm going out to sell, it's like, Okay, well it

0:47:51.040 --> 0:47:53.880
<v Speaker 4>didn't work at the right time, that person doesn't like me,

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.239
<v Speaker 4>or then look over where the light is, Like go

0:47:57.280 --> 0:48:00.160
<v Speaker 4>where the light is instead of focusing on the negative.

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 3>So I just always try to practice that, you know.

0:48:03.600 --> 0:48:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I've had lots of failures, but that's part

0:48:05.960 --> 0:48:07.960
<v Speaker 3>of the process. You're not just going to be good

0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 3>all the time.

0:48:09.040 --> 0:48:11.560
<v Speaker 4>You know. Things can really irk me, Like if I

0:48:11.600 --> 0:48:14.799
<v Speaker 4>find out someone doesn't like me, I'm like, wait what,

0:48:15.000 --> 0:48:19.160
<v Speaker 4>I've never even met that person or I've never done

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 4>anything to that person. And you know, when I was younger,

0:48:22.440 --> 0:48:24.359
<v Speaker 4>I used to get a little bit upset about that.

0:48:24.520 --> 0:48:25.960
<v Speaker 4>You know, if someone would be like, oh, we don't

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:28.239
<v Speaker 4>want her on the show, she's not for us, or

0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.160
<v Speaker 4>I would hear something like that, I'd be like.

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.560
<v Speaker 3>What, Like what do they think of me? You know?

0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.200
<v Speaker 3>But then you just kind of outgrow all of that.

0:48:35.400 --> 0:48:37.920
<v Speaker 4>It's like that really has That's really not on me,

0:48:38.160 --> 0:48:40.400
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean. I haven't done anything wrong

0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:44.040
<v Speaker 4>to hurt people, you know, like, I'm just doing my thing.

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.959
<v Speaker 4>Either it's for you or it's not for you, that's fine.

0:48:46.960 --> 0:48:48.560
<v Speaker 4>If you don't like it, don't listen to it.

0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:52.200
<v Speaker 1>Kind of a dark question. Who would you want to

0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:54.200
<v Speaker 1>deliver your eulogy?

0:48:55.360 --> 0:49:00.080
<v Speaker 3>Probably? Well, God, who would I want to delive for

0:49:00.200 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 3>my eulogy?

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<v Speaker 4>I guess it would have to be someone who do

0:49:05.400 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 4>You would probably be my sister Simone. She wouldn't be

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 4>able to do it though, because she can't even give

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 4>me a birthday toast she gets too emotional. So I

0:49:14.160 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 4>would say either my sister Simone or my friend Michael

0:49:18.719 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 4>Tiberi and Dean Ward. They've been my writers for since

0:49:23.160 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 4>Chelsea Lately days, and they know me inside and out

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.640
<v Speaker 4>and they know everything about me and my gardener. I

0:49:29.680 --> 0:49:31.880
<v Speaker 4>wouldn't mind him chiming in because he knows a lot

0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 4>about me too.

0:49:33.400 --> 0:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Do you believe in bucket list?

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:40.640
<v Speaker 2>And are there is there anything that you've not checked

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:42.840
<v Speaker 2>off your bucket list for your life?

0:49:44.440 --> 0:49:46.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't really believe in bucket lists. I'm not like that.

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:48.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a planner. I don't have goals. I just

0:49:48.680 --> 0:49:52.319
<v Speaker 3>am like I kind of fly, just kind of fly

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:53.480
<v Speaker 3>by the seat of my pants.

0:49:53.520 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 4>Like you know, my plans change all the time, and

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 4>I always just kind of go with that. I don't

0:49:59.160 --> 0:50:01.879
<v Speaker 4>make huge plan I don't have like a five year

0:50:01.960 --> 0:50:03.560
<v Speaker 4>prospectus or anything like that.

0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:05.399
<v Speaker 3>But is there anything that? I mean?

0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 4>All I care about really is traveling and seeing as

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.080
<v Speaker 4>much of the world as I possibly can and meeting

0:50:11.120 --> 0:50:14.359
<v Speaker 4>as many interesting people as I possibly can. Those are

0:50:14.360 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 4>the things I care about the most. I'm very into

0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:19.560
<v Speaker 4>people and I'm very into experience.

0:50:20.920 --> 0:50:24.880
<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the best compliment you've ever received.

0:50:25.400 --> 0:50:26.560
<v Speaker 3>That I'm a good listener?

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Really? Are you?

0:50:28.880 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I am when I'm interesting.

0:50:32.160 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it comes with the all right, okay, cool.

0:50:36.760 --> 0:50:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Comes with the caveat. You have to write to be

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:43.080
<v Speaker 3>one of two things interesting, compelling or funny.

0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 2>My last question for you, what's more important to you?

0:50:47.600 --> 0:50:49.360
<v Speaker 2>Respect or love?

0:50:51.360 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Love? But I care about being respected, absolutely, it's close.

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:58.640
<v Speaker 3>But love is obviously more important than respect.

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:02.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but love requires a certain amount of guard dropping.

0:51:03.080 --> 0:51:04.959
<v Speaker 2>I think as we get older, it's harder to drop

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 2>our guard.

0:51:05.880 --> 0:51:11.000
<v Speaker 4>You know, yeah, maybe yeah, or it becomes easier depending

0:51:11.040 --> 0:51:14.360
<v Speaker 4>on you know, how self actualized you become as a

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:17.239
<v Speaker 4>as a grown person. I think I was probably much

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:18.759
<v Speaker 4>more guarded in my twenties than.

0:51:18.640 --> 0:51:19.280
<v Speaker 3>I am now.

0:51:20.480 --> 0:51:23.920
<v Speaker 2>Okay, you know, at the end of every conversation I have,

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 2>I have to figure out what it is that I've

0:51:27.239 --> 0:51:30.759
<v Speaker 2>learned from you, and I will say that probably people

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:33.640
<v Speaker 2>are always saying live in the present, and to me

0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:36.640
<v Speaker 2>that sounds like a good sound bite, and I'll be like, yeah, yeah, sure,

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 2>live in the present. But you know, I'm such a

0:51:39.600 --> 0:51:44.360
<v Speaker 2>meticulous planner. And of course I'm a meticulous planner because

0:51:44.400 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 2>of whatever trauma is in my rear view mirror in

0:51:47.960 --> 0:51:50.480
<v Speaker 2>the past makes me think, oh, I got to plan

0:51:50.600 --> 0:51:52.640
<v Speaker 2>my future out. And so for me, one of the

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:57.080
<v Speaker 2>hardest things ever is living in the present. But more

0:51:57.120 --> 0:52:00.759
<v Speaker 2>than that, you're the first person that I've heard that

0:52:01.000 --> 0:52:08.120
<v Speaker 2>really makes not working sound appealing to me. Yeah, so

0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.719
<v Speaker 2>I might have to seriously take you on your offer.

0:52:11.800 --> 0:52:14.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm getting your information when we're done this taping, but

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:17.719
<v Speaker 2>I will absolutely take you on your offer because I

0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 2>just I need advice on I don't know where to

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.480
<v Speaker 2>go or who to I mean, for a person that

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:28.000
<v Speaker 2>did at least two hundred and fifty days, like I've

0:52:28.080 --> 0:52:33.080
<v Speaker 2>traveled the world at least fifteen times over as a musician.

0:52:33.360 --> 0:52:36.040
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I don't feel comfortable unless I am

0:52:37.360 --> 0:52:39.920
<v Speaker 2>doing a three hour show or DJing at night, So

0:52:40.400 --> 0:52:45.200
<v Speaker 2>like to go, nothing is like terrifying for me.

0:52:45.320 --> 0:52:48.920
<v Speaker 1>So I think this kismet that we're.

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.960
<v Speaker 2>Talking right now because I need someone to convince.

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Me of that. I thank you for that.

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Text, Quest, I appreciate it for you.

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