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Speaker 1: Quest Love Show is a production of iHeartRadio. Hey What's up, Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to The Questlove Show, a new era and a

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Speaker 2: format for QLs. After close to a decade of award

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Speaker 2: winning podcast You Know and Love, I'm back with a

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Speaker 2: new idea after a lengthy hiatus having conversations with people

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Speaker 2: who always wanted to get to know on a deeper level.

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Speaker 2: This week I spoke with Chelsea Handler virtually. She was

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Speaker 2: at home in Los Angeles and I was in my

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Speaker 2: office at thirty Rock in New York City, the Red Room.

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Speaker 2: We know Chelsea as a comedian, television host, and a

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Speaker 2: seven time New York Times bestselling author, with her latest book,

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Speaker 2: I'll Have What She's Having out this year. Chelsea is

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Speaker 2: also part of the iHeart Podcast family.

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Speaker 1: With her Dear Chelsea Show.

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Speaker 2: This year, you can catch Chelsea Handler on her High

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Speaker 2: and Mighty tour along with her Las Vegas residency at

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Speaker 2: the Cosmopolity.

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Speaker 1: I was really happy to have her.

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Speaker 2: On the sho as the launch of this QLs two

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Speaker 2: pointoero period.

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Speaker 1: For me.

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Speaker 2: This conversation you're gonna hear why Chelsea is present. She

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Speaker 2: lives in the moment, She loves vacations, She also prides

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Speaker 2: herself as a listener, which she was with some of

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Speaker 2: my questions. Chelsea is raw and unfiltered, and in this

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Speaker 2: conversation we discussed perhaps traveling together. Listening to Chelsea talk

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Speaker 2: about her favorite places. You know, sounds fun, liberating, and

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Speaker 2: grateful her work ethic. Like me, she wears many hats,

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Speaker 2: and this one was for me and Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: Like a few QLs guests in the past, she was

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Speaker 1: opening to random questions and jumping around a little bit.

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Speaker 2: So I hope you liked this new approach for QLs

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Speaker 2: and let's get to it all right, enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Chelse, welcome to the quest Left Show. How are

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Speaker 1: you today? How's it going?

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Speaker 3: I'm good. I like the looks of where you are.

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Speaker 4: It looks like it is a marijuana infuse dark room.

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Speaker 1: I am so not that person.

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So this is what I want to know.

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Speaker 2: What time did you wake up this morning?

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Speaker 3: Six twelve am?

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Speaker 1: Is that typically where your body clock sets off? Or yeah?

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Speaker 4: Unfortunately I kind of would prefer to sleep a little

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Speaker 4: bit later, but like, I kind of need a good

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Speaker 4: two to three hours before things get going.

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Speaker 3: Just to decuntify.

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Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean like I'm a bitch

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Speaker 4: and I have to wake up.

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Speaker 3: I write in my gratitude journal that's now on my phone.

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Speaker 4: So that's a lot easier than writing because I've lost

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Speaker 4: the I've lost the aptitude.

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Speaker 3: For writing or the design. It hurts. So I do

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Speaker 3: my little gratitude.

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Speaker 4: I say everything I'm grateful for, even if you know

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Speaker 4: I'm not feeling great.

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Speaker 3: Then I meditate for twenty minutes.

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Speaker 4: I play with my dog, I let him out, and

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Speaker 4: I just slowly.

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Speaker 3: Come to you know what I mean. I need a

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Speaker 3: good two to three hour lead time to start. I

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Speaker 4: So yes, wherever I am in the world, typically I

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Speaker 2: Okay, so that's what your first fifteen minutes. But what

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Speaker 2: I want to know.

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Speaker 1: Is, what was the last half hour of your last night,

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Speaker 1: of your day? Last night? What is the last half hour?

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Speaker 3: Huh? Last half hour?

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Speaker 4: I went to this tech conference or like this kind

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Speaker 4: I'm not really watching it, but I just kind of

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Speaker 4: I'm doing a big stand up tour next year, so

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Speaker 4: At my emails, look at my day tomorrow, and then

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Speaker 4: I just put my eye shades on. I put my

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Speaker 3: So off off, but I fall asleep with it on.

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Speaker 4: I find it helpful to fall asleep, And I know

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Speaker 4: that's not Everyone will say that's a bad but I

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Speaker 4: don't really give a shit. I'm fifty years old. I

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Speaker 2: During the uh what I'll say in air quotes the

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Speaker 2: first cycle, I used to always sleep to the news,

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Speaker 2: just to make sure that we are all in one piece.

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Speaker 1: The next morning, right right.

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Speaker 2: But then the more I started studying about how the

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Speaker 2: brain works and how the subconscious works, I realized that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, in general, it's probably a good privent,

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Speaker 4: there's really nothing that we're gaining from watching that. Listening

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Speaker 4: to a podcast, a political podcast, I find is much

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Speaker 4: less damaging, especially while you're out and driving.

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Speaker 3: There's something about.

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Speaker 4: Driving and listening to the news that is less damaging

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Speaker 2: So the way that I take an information, for instance,

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Speaker 2: I'll actually sleep to that loop, you know, like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: when you're in your sleepy, tired, THETA state, that's where

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Speaker 2: you retain. But I also believe that when you're driving,

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Speaker 2: that's the equivalent of sleeping, because you're still in your

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Speaker 1: Aware in driving.

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Speaker 2: But I tend to read a lot of audiobooks and

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Speaker 2: listen to podcasts while driving because I'll retain the information better.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, but you know I love driving.

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Speaker 4: But it's so nice to know when I can leave

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Speaker 4: Like that, I can go up to maulhalland and look

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Speaker 4: Like that's my kind of that's my vibe.

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Speaker 2: People are often shocked that when I get to LA,

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Speaker 2: I want to drive myself. For me, especially you know,

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Speaker 2: when I'm testing music, Like I whenever an album was complete,

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Speaker 2: the material because for me, if it works on that drive,

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Speaker 2: then it works elsewhere. So it's it's a therapeutic thing

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Speaker 1: Like I thought I was the only one.

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Speaker 2: People look at me like, wait, you like to drive,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I prefer I don'tfer I like, if I'm in

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Speaker 3: If I'm in LA, I prefer to drive.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So how old were you when you realize you

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Speaker 2: had a gift? Be it charisma or organizational skills or.

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Speaker 4: It's definitely not organizational skills. I've never realized anything about that.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I mean, yeah, don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't have that.

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Speaker 4: I have no logistical expertise, no domesticity. I think I

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Speaker 4: realized I was precocious and that I got attention for that.

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Speaker 4: And I was the youngest of six children, so like,

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Speaker 4: to me, that was an avenue to get what I

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Speaker 4: and I loved their reaction to that. So then that

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Speaker 4: and I leaned into it pretty hard.

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Speaker 3: Six siblings, five siblings. I'm the youngest of six.

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Speaker 1: Can you rank them in order?

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Speaker 3: Yes? I can.

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Speaker 1: Rank your siblings in order.

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Speaker 3: Chat Roy, Glad Simone and Shashana Chelsea.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean by age, I mean by closeness.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh oh, sorry, I thought my brothers and sisters.

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Speaker 1: Or what skill set does each sibling have that you

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Speaker 4: Okay, Well, my brother, my oldest brother, not to be

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Speaker 4: a bummer, but he died when I was nine years old,

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Speaker 4: He's like a party favor. Roy is the sweetest, most

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Speaker 3: My sisters and I are like, that's our teddy bear.

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Speaker 4: Then there's Glenn, my other brother, who's very intelligent but

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Speaker 4: also slightly misogynist and like he's married to a Russian

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Speaker 4: woman who's a real Putin sympathizer. So I have a

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Speaker 3: I spent my last twenty.

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Speaker 4: Five years going on vacation with my whole family, Like

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Speaker 4: I take a lot of pleasure and like taking my

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Speaker 4: years ago, I was like I'm wrapped. I was like,

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Speaker 4: I didn't marry this woman, Olga, you did you go

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Speaker 4: on vacation with her. I no longer want to finance

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Speaker 4: a vacation where I'm listening to Russian state propaganda, So

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Speaker 4: that relationships a little bit, you know, it's got some friction.

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Speaker 4: My sisters are Simone and Shashana, and my sister's a

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Speaker 4: healthcare attorney, and my other sister has her own ear

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Speaker 4: piercing company in New Jersey, and the.

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Speaker 3: Girls are always reyal tight.

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Speaker 4: Our whole family's pretty close and communicative.

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Speaker 1: But like, you know, are you the family alpha? Yes,

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Speaker 1: you're the organizer.

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Speaker 3: Definitely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so Thanksgiving time.

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Speaker 3: Who's Thanksgiving time?

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving start for you.

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Speaker 4: Well, Thanksgiving time starts for me by telling my family

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Speaker 4: we're not celebrating together this year.

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Speaker 3: Leave me out of it.

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Speaker 4: I've extended my generosity for twenty five years. I want

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Speaker 2: which is basically they were like, you know, you've better

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Speaker 4: I'm sure that that is something that lots of men

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Speaker 2: I often say that, like, you know, we'll say like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Because yeah, it looks good like what.

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Speaker 3: You actually have to be a great guy and we

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Speaker 4: I'm not like my standards are so high because I

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Speaker 3: And you know that's not a threat, that's just my truth.

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Speaker 4: Like I've been through gross guys and idiots, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: So who's in your trusted circle then that you really trust,

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Speaker 4: Not like a private person. Obviously, I'm not precious about

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Speaker 4: You know, there's not a lot of mystique here because

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Speaker 4: They were exhausted. My mom slept like a cat throughout

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Speaker 3: You know, I grew up on The Cosby Show like

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Speaker 4: Like I considered myself to be a Huxtable. I wanted

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Speaker 2: I was going to say that watching Malcolm Jamal Warner vicariously,

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Speaker 4: Okay, so this casino manager approaches me. I was doing

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're performing in two different rooms. Obviously we

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Speaker 3: Knowing nothing, knowing just like the more the merrier. We

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Speaker 3: oh my god, Oh my god, mister Huxtable's coming like this.

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00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:48,240
Speaker 3: He opens the door.

445
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 4: Bill Cosby opens the door and you know, you know,

446
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 4: he's got that great face, at least it used to

447
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 4: be great, and it was like, you know, that jello pudding.

448
00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,800
Speaker 3: Smile he had on his face. And he opens the

449
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,159
Speaker 3: door and he's got this big smile and he doesn't

450
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 3: see the two guys that are standing next to me

451
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 3: because they were like to my right.

452
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 4: And I jump into Bill Cosby's arms. I'm like, dad,

453
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,919
Speaker 4: I'm home. Like That's how I greeted him. And he

454
00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: was holding on to me, and I was holding on

455
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 4: to him. He held on a little bit longer than

456
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 4: I and then and then I said, and these are

457
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 4: my friends, Chris, and then my security guard and.

458
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 3: His face dropped.

459
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 4: Yes, and we go in, and we go in and

460
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,639
Speaker 4: we sit and it's like, you know, he's got this

461
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 4: huge suite and we're sitting. We sit down and he's like,

462
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 4: who are these guys, blah blah. I'm like, oh, well,

463
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 4: this is Chris my opener. And he proceeds to go

464
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 4: in on Chris Frangola for opening for a woman and

465
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 4: telling him how he'll never be successful in comedy because

466
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 4: he's opening for a woman.

467
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, wait, what is this? Like I

468
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 3: thought we were being punked.

469
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 4: I was like, is this a And then you know,

470
00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 4: at a certain point, I had to stand up for

471
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 4: my friend because he was just dragging him. And I

472
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 4: finally went up and I'm like, you know what, I'm sorry,

473
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,400
Speaker 4: We're out of here, Like we don't need to listen

474
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 4: to this.

475
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 3: This isn't pleasant or fun.

476
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh we got that serious?

477
00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,520
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah, it was like it was really obnoxious.

478
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 4: So we walk out and that feeling of you know,

479
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 4: you meet someone that you should you know, we couldn't

480
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 4: even speak to each other, the three of us.

481
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 3: We walked down the hall out out of his room

482
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 3: and we're all just like, you know, speechless.

483
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 4: So I'm very grateful that I had the enough intuition

484
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 4: to bring people with me.

485
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: I think what people don't know when they look at

486
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: your life as a goldfish or as a person that's

487
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,440
Speaker 2: separate from their lives, is that you.

488
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 1: Haven't met that. It's easy.

489
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 2: Can I ask you what was your version of air

490
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 2: quote making it when you were ten years old? What

491
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: was your version of what you thought success was going

492
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: to be?

493
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: First class? And like being flying first class at ten

494
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 4: years old? I went on my first flight and I

495
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,760
Speaker 4: walked past the first class section and I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa?

496
00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 4: Who are these people right here? Like this looks like

497
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 4: my group? And my mother was like, keep walking, sweetheart,

498
00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,959
Speaker 4: that is not our group. That will never be our group.

499
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,960
Speaker 4: We have six children. We will never be able to

500
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 4: afford to fly first class. And I was like, fuck

501
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 4: that shit. I'm like, the next time I fly, that's

502
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 4: where I'm sitting. And it took me about three years

503
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 4: of saving up babysitting money and lemonade stand money. But

504
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 4: when I took my next flight, I was thirteen years old,

505
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: and guess who sat in tuc while my family sat

506
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 4: all the way and coach, wait.

507
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,440
Speaker 1: Did you do this independent of them as well.

508
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 3: Yes, I went down the street.

509
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 4: We had a neighbor who was a travel agent. I

510
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: bought my own first class ticket. It was something like

511
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 4: eighteen hundred dollars. It was like nineteen. It would have

512
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 4: been nineteen eighty eight because I was thirteen flying from

513
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 4: We're flying from Newark to LA. I had grandparents that

514
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 4: lived in LA and I bought my own first class ticket.

515
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 4: And I didn't tell anyone because I was flying with

516
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 4: my two brothers, Glenn and Roy, and I want I

517
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 4: could not wait to see the looks on their faces

518
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 4: when I sat down in my seat.

519
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 3: I couldn't wait.

520
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 4: And when I did, I stopped and I was like,

521
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 4: you know, thirteen years old, but acting like I was,

522
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 4: you know, forty.

523
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,119
Speaker 3: I was like a businesswoman. I had a briefcase. I

524
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,640
Speaker 3: was like in California, I had kidneys.

525
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: I had to dress up back then, correct, Yeah.

526
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you didn't have to, but I wanted to.

527
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 2: I was told you had to dress up. If you

528
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,880
Speaker 2: said I had to wear suits until yeah, that.

529
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: Was like the SEVENTI yeah, I guess that was the

530
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 4: eighties two when people dressed up. But I sat down

531
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 4: in tuc My brothers thought I was joking. I put

532
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,119
Speaker 4: my little briefcase in the over had been with my

533
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: little Barbie, you know, backpack and for my week in California,

534
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: we were going to Disneyland, and my brothers are like

535
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: looking at me, and I just showed them my ticket

536
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 4: and I was like, I'll see you counts at the

537
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 4: end of the flight, and then I went back to

538
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 4: coach where they belonged. And at one point my brother

539
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: came up to the first class like we were up

540
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 4: in the air for like an hour. You know, I'm

541
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 4: enjoying a glass of champagne because they don't know how

542
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 4: old I am. And my brother comes up to my

543
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: seat and he's like, you can't do that.

544
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: You can't do that. I go, I can't do what

545
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 3: he goes.

546
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 4: You can't fly first class without giving it to You

547
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: can't buy a first class ticket and not give it

548
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 4: to one of us or mom. And I'm like, are

549
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 4: you I go, what are you serious? Get the fuck

550
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,399
Speaker 4: out of my face. I'm like, you're ten years older

551
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: than me. I'm thirteen, you're twenty three years old, and

552
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 4: I figured out how to do this before you did. No,

553
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 4: thank you, sir. And I'm like, I don't even know

554
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 4: how you got up in this section.

555
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: Go back to your robe.

556
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: Please behind the curtain.

557
00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, get back on the garden.

558
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 2: What unfair rule was implemented in your childhood? Don't go

559
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 2: out past eleven?

560
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: You know?

561
00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

562
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 4: If this wasn't I don't know if this was unfair,

563
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 4: but I got caught. I got when my girlfriends and

564
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 4: I were like eight years old, we did what was

565
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 4: called the feeling, where you would basically masturbate but over

566
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 4: your clothes so everyone would call. You would just like

567
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 4: rub your vagina but over your genes. Actually, the thicker

568
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 4: the material, the better the traction, so you wanted more attraction,

569
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,679
Speaker 4: so you would never actually touch your vagina directly, but

570
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 4: we would do it in school. We would use rulers.

571
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: We would just all be like, are you going to

572
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 4: get the feeling? During math class? Like whenever we could

573
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 4: try and hide it. So I got pretty confident about

574
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 4: getting the feeling. I'd go home and I'd lie down

575
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 4: in front of like an ottoman and kind of shade

576
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 4: my body so that I could, like, you know, just

577
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 4: watch General Hospital and masturbate the whole time. And then

578
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 4: my parents caught me, and I guess they had known

579
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 4: for some time that I was.

580
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,640
Speaker 3: Doing it, but I thought it was unfair, and they.

581
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: Were like, you cannot masturbate in the living room anymore.

582
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: They shamed you.

583
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, totally shamed me because I was starting to

584
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 4: use appliances like spoons, like a wooden spoon or you know,

585
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 4: I would see a corner of a wall and I'd

586
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: go up to that. I was getting a little carried

587
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 4: away in truth. So they told me I couldn't masturbate

588
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 4: at home anymore, or.

589
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: No in the living room.

590
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,560
Speaker 4: They're like, if you want to do that, save it

591
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 4: for the privacy of your own room. And I thought

592
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: that was unfair because I was just experimenting with my

593
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 4: body and finding out what my desires were.

594
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: Wow, this is not the answer I was expecting. Wow.

595
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:43,679
Speaker 1: So no master being with our utensils or I know.

596
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 4: And also I felt like keeping my clothes on was

597
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 4: the first step, you know, like, that's pretty respectful being.

598
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 1: Yes, you're being respectful. Absolutely. Are there any mementos or

599
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: toys from your childhood that you've kept this entire time?

600
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 4: Not toys, I would to say, but mementos, yes, like

601
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 4: you know, school pictures or family lots of family stuff,

602
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 4: like when you have such a big family, We had

603
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 4: like a lot of fun ridiculousness, you know, it was

604
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 4: always chaos. And we had this summer house in Martha's

605
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 4: Vineyard and so we have a lot of.

606
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 3: Fun up there.

607
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 4: So yeah, Like and we always had dogs, like, we

608
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: always had a family dog. So I have a lot

609
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 4: of like memories from that and mementos like pictures of

610
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 4: my childhood dogs and stuff. But as far as like

611
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 4: actual mementos or toys, no, I don't think I'm not

612
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 4: like sentimental like that, Like I'm not somebody who saves

613
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. All I care about is anything

614
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 4: that's in writing, like a card or a photo. Those

615
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 4: are the things that mean the most to me.

616
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: Well, wait, you can't say that you're not sentimental, because

617
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: I would assume that for you. I mean you've written

618
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 2: seven books, correct, yes, seven books, and what you do

619
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: for a living is recalling the past. So I mean

620
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: there's a part of you that has to be somewhat sentimental.

621
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: Well, I mean sentimental it lends that that word kind

622
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 3: of means that you're holding onto the past in this

623
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 3: kind of Yeah.

624
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 4: Well, it's just like you know, it's like I miss it.

625
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: You know, it's more of a reflective than it is sentimental,

626
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 4: Like it's more of a I mind it for material.

627
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 4: I mean, there are parts of it that I am

628
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 4: sentimental about, you know, like my brother who passed away.

629
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 4: Of course I'm sentimental about his stuff, and I do

630
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: have a couple of his things actually, But like I

631
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 4: find the word sentimental to mean, like, oh, I get

632
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: emotional when I think about things, Like a lot of

633
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 4: things are just references and reflections that I take with me,

634
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 4: and my past is so much a part of who

635
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: I am, Like I had to be salty to survive.

636
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: I had to have a big personality to be heard,

637
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: and so it's part of the fabric of who I am.

638
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: Can you tell me a story of the worst time

639
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: you ever got in trouble in your childhood?

640
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 3: Oh? Well, I mean there were a couple. I once

641
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: had a party at my house.

642
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 4: My dad was actually in the hospital, and I was

643
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 4: like perfect, and we have the house free. And I

644
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 4: was like in seventh grade and I had a huge

645
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: party at my house and everyone just started taking stuff

646
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: from my house, and the cops came.

647
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 3: Like people were.

648
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 4: Stealing stuff like pieces of furniture and then the cops came.

649
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 4: And when the cops came out, I was like, I'm

650
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 4: out of here too, and I left my own party

651
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 4: and went and hit at our elementary school in the

652
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 4: woods until they left, because I didn't want to get

653
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: in trouble.

654
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: So you thought you could get her away with so

655
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: obviously you raised on like eighties, nineties teen movies, like

656
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 2: you thought you could get away with us.

657
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. I was like, Oh, if they don't see me,

658
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 3: then they can't prove I was there.

659
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: And it's like, where are your parents? Did you? What

660
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: did your parents do for a living?

661
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 4: My dad was a used car dealer and my mom

662
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 4: was like a home health care nurse, but she didn't work.

663
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: She only worked when my dad's business was doing pretty badly,

664
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 4: which was quite often because he was he was a

665
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 4: used car dealer, but he didn't have like a place

666
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: of business. He just sold cars out of our driveway.

667
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 4: So our driveway was like this big circular driveway covered

668
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 4: in these terrible geloppies, like there would be tire irons

669
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 4: and tires and everything was just strewn. It looked like

670
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: like the front yard of Sanford and Son.

671
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 1: So they were sentiment.

672
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 4: Well, my dad was I mean or he just couldn't

673
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 4: sell a car, depending on how you look.

674
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: At it, got it.

675
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: So wait, what happened when when you got found out?

676
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean I got in trouble.

677
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 4: I mean the police found me in the woods, like

678
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 4: we were all gathered there together. We had no experience

679
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: in like dodging the police or anything. Another embarrassing thing.

680
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: I got caught shoplifting at Sears. Remember Sears. I don't

681
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: know Sears still exists, maybe.

682
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: But I got caught shoplifting.

683
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: But bras and underwear. First of all, it's like a

684
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 4: home appliance store, so buying bras and underwear from Sears.

685
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 3: Is already off.

686
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: And my girlfriend and I, Jill, got caught shoplifting and

687
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: then I had to go and that was really shameful,

688
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: Like my mom wouldn't even talk to me for a week.

689
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: She was like, that is so gross that you went

690
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: and stole.

691
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 4: And my dad had to take me to these shoplifting

692
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 4: classes where you had to get up and the father

693
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 4: was like, I am the father of a shoplifter.

694
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: And then I had to go out.

695
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: You had to take the photo in like the were

696
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: they hanging in the back?

697
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then I had to get up and be like,

698
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 4: I'm a shoplifter, and then you have to talk about

699
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: what you shoplifted. And mine was like a red bra

700
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 4: and underwear panty set. And I was in seventh grade.

701
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 3: I didn't.

702
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: I mean, who's buying launcherie from Seers? Like none of

703
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 4: it made any sense at all.

704
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: Ah, Okay, what's the last thing that you cooked for yourself?

705
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: Oh? This is I did this the other night.

706
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 4: I was staying with a girlfriend because my house is

707
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: under construction, So I was staying with a girlfriend and

708
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 4: she cooks, she can cook. I was staying with her

709
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: for about a month, and I wanted to not leave

710
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 4: until she taught me how to cook at least one thing.

711
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 4: I am terrible in the kitchen. I'm very bad with instructions.

712
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: If you'd give me the instructions, it's very hard for.

713
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 3: Me to follow through.

714
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: So I wanted to cook chicken pacata, and we cooked

715
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: it together with her help.

716
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: She did probably about seventy percent of the work.

717
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 4: I did about thirty percent, and it's still tasted like garbage.

718
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: Got it? What restaurant would you fly across.

719
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: The world for Kespatra March.

720
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: Is that that's.

721
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: That's a restaurant in Mayorca in Day of Mayorca. I

722
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: have a house in Myorca and we go there. We

723
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: ride our bikes to this restaurant. It's up this huge

724
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 4: hill and then you ride down and it's right on

725
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 4: the water, so you're sitting on the Mediterranean while you

726
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 4: eat the most fresh fish and fried onion. They put

727
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 4: these little fried onion rings on everything that they serve,

728
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: so you get this beautiful like dorado fish or sea

729
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 4: bream or whatever you're into. And then they have these

730
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 4: crispy onion rings that they put everywhere, and then you

731
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 4: can jump off from your table into the sea and

732
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 4: it's this beautiful cave.

733
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just heaven on earth.

734
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: I want to go to this.

735
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, come anytime. I'm going for the month of October

736
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 3: quest You're welcome to join me.

737
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 2: So you're big on vacations and break and self care, yeah,

738
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: I take it.

739
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: Yes, Okay.

740
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 2: So I'm a person who is notoriously known for, you know,

741
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 2: filling up every second of the day with I don't

742
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 2: see it as work.

743
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: It's a passion to me, but I was.

744
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: You know, when you start dating, you you're forced to

745
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: go on vacations, and it was hard for me to

746
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 2: not work. Convince me why taking vacations are important.

747
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,800
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I mean, listen, there's always a little work,

748
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 4: like I'm always always a little bit working, Like I need.

749
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 3: To just decompress. I need My life is crazy, as

750
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: I'm sure yours is. All of our lives are crazy.

751
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: It's just so important to get to a point where

752
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: you feel recharged, where you feel like where you can

753
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 4: just take your stress. Because first of all, you go

754
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 4: on vacation for a week, you don't start relaxing until

755
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 4: like the fifth or sixth.

756
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 3: Day, and then you're leaving the next day.

757
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 4: That's why I go on vacation for a month, because

758
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 4: I take a first week to adjust, and then I

759
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 4: can actually chill out. I can read a book and concentrate.

760
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: I can go on a bike ride for two hours

761
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 4: without thinking about a million things.

762
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: Like.

763
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: To me, vacation is letting your mind not run you.

764
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,880
Speaker 4: To me, vacation is like getting so relaxed that it

765
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: doesn't matter which way the wind blows. You might go

766
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: to dinner that night, you might just sit at home.

767
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 4: You might stay in bed all day and watch TV.

768
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: You might be out in the ocean all day. Like

769
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 4: to not have a plan and let see where the

770
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 4: day takes you. That's my idea of a vacation, to

771
00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: not have anything regimented.

772
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,720
Speaker 1: What is your preferred month of not working?

773
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 3: It could be any month.

774
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 4: I mean, I like working during the summer because it's

775
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 4: gotten so hot, so it's like I don't enjoy that.

776
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 3: Being in the heat and vacation. But I love the

777
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:13,280
Speaker 3: winter to ski.

778
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: I go to Canada in the winter to do my skiing,

779
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 4: So I base myself out of Whistler, Canada for like

780
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 4: four months in the wintertime.

781
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 3: That's also part vacation.

782
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: I mean, I do my podcast from there, and I'll

783
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 4: be on tour from there. But it's just a different

784
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: kind of I like to change the channel a lot,

785
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I get bored being in

786
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 4: the same place. I find La to be a little

787
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: bit sleepy. I find New York to be much more stimulative.

788
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 4: And then I split my time between Spain and Canada.

789
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: All right, So have you ever gotten lost in another country? Yeah?

790
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 3: All the time.

791
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 4: I got lost on a vespa in France for an

792
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 4: hour and a half in a bathing suit on a

793
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 4: freeway with eighteen wheelers driving by me because I couldn't

794
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: even follow direction. With my friends, We're all on vespos,

795
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 4: and I was like, just had my head in the clouds.

796
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,959
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, I guess I'll make a left

797
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 4: here when no one else made a left and I

798
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 4: got on a major freeway. I was in beer Ritz, France,

799
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 4: and I got on a major freeway and could not

800
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 4: get off of it for miles and miles, and a

801
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 4: vespa only goes like forty five miles an hour at tops,

802
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: and these cars are blowing past me, beeping like, get

803
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 4: out of the lane, get out of the lane. So

804
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 4: I was a very dumb American on that trip. But

805
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,840
Speaker 4: I get lost all the time. Quest I have no

806
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 4: sense of direction all right?

807
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: When traveling? Are you a window or an out seat person?

808
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: Doesn't really matter.

809
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 4: I'll probably because I have to pee a lot, so

810
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 4: it's easier for me not to walk over anybody.

811
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: Okay, when all is said and done, what city would

812
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 2: you like to retire in?

813
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 4: Probably I mean somewhere. I'd probably like to live out

814
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 4: my last days in my Orca. Yeah, that's pretty much

815
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 4: in my happy magic place.

816
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: What is it about it?

817
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just.

818
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: So I love to be on the water. I love

819
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 4: to hear water when I'm sleeping. I love to be

820
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 4: in the water. I love to sail. I just love

821
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 4: that whole vibe like outdoorsy. And the great thing about

822
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 4: my house in my Orca is it's got this huge

823
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 4: outdoor terrace, so it's like you kind of don't even

824
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 4: have to leave the house to feel like you're part

825
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 4: of Like there's this little port and all these shops

826
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 4: and restaurants and people are always walking back and forth.

827
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 3: I'm bringing my dog this time so he can experience

828
00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 3: like the magic of it.

829
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 4: We got him a life jacket so we can go

830
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 4: into the Mediterranean and throw him off of a paddle

831
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: board or a catamaran, whatever we decide. But also New

832
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: York I think like in terms of you know, New

833
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 4: York is so stimulating that I think as you get older,

834
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 4: that really is the place to live, because you can't

835
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 4: really La is too sleepy to get older, you know

836
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 4: what I mean. I could die early here just from

837
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 4: being so lazy. When I come here, it's almost like

838
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,720
Speaker 4: a rehab. Like I sleep a lot, I get healthy,

839
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: I work out all the time. New York I'm out

840
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 4: and about, you know, there's a lot more fomo there.

841
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: What time do you normally go to bed?

842
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 4: I go to bed pretty early in LA, Like I

843
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 4: go to bed around ten ten thirty in LA. I mean, listen,

844
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 4: this weekend, let's be honest. I went out to a

845
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 4: party and I got home at six am on Saturday morning.

846
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: But that was an anomaly for me.

847
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 4: I usually don't do that, so that was really fun

848
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 4: because I hadn't done that in a long time.

849
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: So you don't go as heavy as he used to

850
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: go in.

851
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: Your oh oh no no.

852
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: I like day partying, Like I like to go out

853
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 4: to a fun lunch. I'd like to go do something.

854
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: Early at night.

855
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 4: It's kind of why I love ski culture, because you

856
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 4: get up early, you go skiing, you have a little

857
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 4: margarita juice boost at around eleven thirty in the morning,

858
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 4: then you have app ray around three thirty, and that

859
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: kind of counts as my dinner, and then I'm home

860
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 4: and bed by like eight o'clock, and I get up

861
00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 4: in the morning and do it all again. So I

862
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 4: kind of like that lifestyle. But I mean there's a

863
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 4: lot of lifestyles I like.

864
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 2: Okay, So practical Advice twenty twenty is what I consider

865
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: to be. You know, we might be living through another

866
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: type of pandemic, a spiritual pandemic. But twenty twenty for

867
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 2: me was a crucial year of what I consider like

868
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 2: my BC eighty years in terms of I wasn't the

869
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 2: same person now than I was before then.

870
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: So twenty twenty was a pivotal change for me.

871
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: What was different for you in your life now post

872
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: twenty twenty that you're still implementing.

873
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think anyone is really recovered from that.

874
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: I mean I don't think you know, the work ethic

875
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 4: is not the same for a lot of people. People

876
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 4: don't want to go back to work. They didn't want

877
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 4: to go back to work for a while, so there's.

878
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 3: That in the air.

879
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: In general, there's a kind of malaise about working hard.

880
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: So you're not as hustle based now as you were

881
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: before twenty twenty.

882
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 4: No, I didn't impact me as much. Like I mean,

883
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 4: I grew up as a hustler. So I'm from New Jersey, Like,

884
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 4: you're not going to get that out of me. What city,

885
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: Livingstone and they it's by like Montclair, Like we's Caldwell. Okay, No,

886
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 4: but I mean I think just the reflection of so

887
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 4: many like whether it's gen Z or what you know,

888
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: millennials or their attitude from COVID. You kind of absorb it,

889
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 4: or you're constantly exposed to the fact that people liked

890
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 4: not going into work, people liked the virtual life, people

891
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 4: liked talking like this rather than being in person. I

892
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: would always choose to be in person with people. That's

893
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 4: just my preference. I feel like there's much more of

894
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 4: a connection. So but my life, my life has a change.

895
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 4: I mean, I would say I'm busier now than I

896
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: was before twenty twenty.

897
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 3: That was, like, you know, I'm.

898
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: Busier now without a talk show than I was when

899
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: I had a talk show, which doesn't really make a

900
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: lot of sense to me, but.

901
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 3: Somehow it's true. So I don't know.

902
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,800
Speaker 4: I mean, that whole pandemic, it just changed our country

903
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: and our like you know, it changed the whole world.

904
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: But on a personal level, I don't feel so changed

905
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 3: by it. I felt more of an observer of it

906
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 3: rather than in the thick of it. I wasn't upset

907
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 3: by it.

908
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,760
Speaker 4: It didn't freak me out, I wasn't scared. I welcomed

909
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 4: the break quite frankly.

910
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 3: I liked it. I read a lot of books, and

911
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 3: I took a lot of mushrooms. Same.

912
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: All right, we're going to be friends, Chelsea. What book

913
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: would you say probably changed your life?

914
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: What was a paradigm shift for you? Hmmm, or at

915
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: least the author that pushed you.

916
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, letting Go.

917
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 4: There's a book called Letting Go by David Hawkings that

918
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 4: I always talk about.

919
00:42:57,880 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 3: That book. Have you read that.

920
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: Somebody was explaining to me, you know, like his enlightened,

921
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: like his number system that he has as far as

922
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 2: our vibration. Yes, okay, So someone was explaining that to

923
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: me and they sent me a clip and then the

924
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 2: next thing I know, I fell down a vicious rabbit

925
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: hole and damn near his So I'm reading his entire anthology,

926
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: if you will, and anything he's ever written I've read over.

927
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: Like him and Neville Goddard are my two go tos?

928
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: Oh Okay, I don't know him. Nevill Goddard. I'll have

929
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 3: to look him up.

930
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 1: Well.

931
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: Number one, I'm working on a movie right now in

932
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 2: which the lead subject it's a documentary, but he believes

933
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: in metaphysics and you know, the idea of positive thinking, affirmations, breathing, meditation,

934
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 2: all those things, and so in order to understand that subject,

935
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: I had to at least I took about a year

936
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 2: off just to read all the metaphysical so between like

937
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Joe Despenza and but David Hawkins to me is God

938
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: of them all.

939
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it's fascinating stuff.

940
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 4: It's fascinating to stuff to be like because it's scientific,

941
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: but you know, it doesn't get as much airtime because

942
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: it's not as easily measurable. You know what the ideas

943
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 4: that he's talking about, even though they are scientific and

944
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 4: they are measurable.

945
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: Do you find it hard to talk about this with

946
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 1: other people?

947
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,240
Speaker 4: Well, I mean I just frame it in the way

948
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 4: that energy is. You know, like you're going there's a

949
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 4: magnetic attraction. If you're going to put out positive energy,

950
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 4: that's usually what you're going to get back. If you

951
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: practice being positive, if you practice being upbeat, that becomes

952
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 4: infectious and contagious.

953
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 3: If you're negative, that's what you attract.

954
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 4: Like, I mean, how many times have we sat around

955
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 4: feeling sorry for ourselves or being negative and and then

956
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 4: you just draw more negativity towards you. So it is like,

957
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 4: it's it's pretty powerful to understand like the laws of attraction,

958
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: and to understand that you can like higher your frequency,

959
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 4: like you can get on a higher frequency, and the

960
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 4: higher your frequency is, the more good that comes your

961
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 4: way and the more people that you're able to positively impact.

962
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 3: I find that to be just like the kind of

963
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,919
Speaker 3: point of that.

964
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 4: Whole book is to really let go of the negative,

965
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 4: like let things go, do not resist reality. Something doesn't

966
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 4: work out your way, that's okay, make a left you

967
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 4: know what I mean, that didn't work out. Don't sit

968
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: there and bemoan that it didn't work out over and

969
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 4: over and over again.

970
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 3: Move forward.

971
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: So you're big on pivots.

972
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm big on pivots, all right.

973
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: So how do you handle what I call the F word?

974
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: I'm a reform perfectionist, and so for me, I would

975
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 2: take failure very hard, like obsessively reading every record review,

976
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 2: every show review, writing angry letters to you know you

977
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: want you know. And it took me maybe half a

978
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 2: decade like to finally not to let that go. But

979
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:22,320
Speaker 2: for you, how do you so now when something doesn't work?

980
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 2: I almost I think I've convinced myself that when I

981
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: see the F work, failure is a gift because technically

982
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: it's it's a teachable lesson.

983
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:37,320
Speaker 1: But for you, how do you handle failure? Well in

984
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: the lightest way.

985
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,800
Speaker 2: You're a comedian, so sometimes every joke doesn't work, and

986
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: so how do you handle it in that sense? And

987
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: then I want to know, how do you handle a

988
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: major perceived failure?

989
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean a joke not working is not a

990
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: huge failure. That's a part of the work. Like, that's

991
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 4: a part of trial and error, you know, that's my

992
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 4: job is to test things out, see if they work,

993
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 4: and then you know, let go of something if it

994
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 4: doesn't work.

995
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 3: As far as a failure.

996
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 4: Like you know, trying to do something it not working, Yeah,

997
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 4: those hit they can hint a little harder. But it's

998
00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 4: also like, you know, I just have this kind of philosophy.

999
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 4: You know, it's a bummer. You can be okay, you know,

1000
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 4: bummed out for a day or two, but I'm not

1001
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 4: going to get angry.

1002
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to get motivated. I'm going to like, you know,

1003
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: re pivot. I'm going to figure out what the next

1004
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 3: thing is.

1005
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: Like you can't, you know, I just don't have the

1006
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 4: patience or the time.

1007
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: To be in victim mode for too long. So if

1008
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: something doesn't work out.

1009
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 4: First of all, most things, you know, I understand a

1010
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 4: review is personal or feels personal, I should say, but

1011
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: most of that shit isn't personal. Most of that shit

1012
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 4: is about somebody else's bullshit. And like if someone doesn't

1013
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 4: like me, or if I don't sell a project that

1014
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 4: I'm going out to sell, it's like, Okay, well it

1015
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 4: didn't work at the right time, that person doesn't like me,

1016
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: or then look over where the light is, Like go

1017
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 4: where the light is instead of focusing on the negative.

1018
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 3: So I just always try to practice that, you know.

1019
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 3: I mean, I've had lots of failures, but that's part

1020
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,960
Speaker 3: of the process. You're not just going to be good

1021
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 3: all the time.

1022
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: You know. Things can really irk me, Like if I

1023
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 4: find out someone doesn't like me, I'm like, wait what,

1024
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 4: I've never even met that person or I've never done

1025
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 4: anything to that person. And you know, when I was younger,

1026
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 4: I used to get a little bit upset about that.

1027
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 4: You know, if someone would be like, oh, we don't

1028
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 4: want her on the show, she's not for us, or

1029
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 4: I would hear something like that, I'd be like.

1030
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 3: What, Like what do they think of me? You know?

1031
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 3: But then you just kind of outgrow all of that.

1032
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 4: It's like that really has That's really not on me,

1033
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I haven't done anything wrong

1034
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 4: to hurt people, you know, like, I'm just doing my thing.

1035
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,959
Speaker 4: Either it's for you or it's not for you, that's fine.

1036
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 4: If you don't like it, don't listen to it.

1037
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,200
Speaker 1: Kind of a dark question. Who would you want to

1038
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: deliver your eulogy?

1039
00:48:55,360 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 3: Probably? Well, God, who would I want to delive for

1040
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 3: my eulogy?

1041
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 4: I guess it would have to be someone who do

1042
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 4: You would probably be my sister Simone. She wouldn't be

1043
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 4: able to do it though, because she can't even give

1044
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 4: me a birthday toast she gets too emotional. So I

1045
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 4: would say either my sister Simone or my friend Michael

1046
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 4: Tiberi and Dean Ward. They've been my writers for since

1047
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: Chelsea Lately days, and they know me inside and out

1048
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: and they know everything about me and my gardener. I

1049
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 4: wouldn't mind him chiming in because he knows a lot

1050
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: about me too.

1051
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: Do you believe in bucket list?

1052
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: And are there is there anything that you've not checked

1053
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: off your bucket list for your life?

1054
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 3: I don't really believe in bucket lists. I'm not like that.

1055
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: I'm not a planner. I don't have goals. I just

1056
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 3: am like I kind of fly, just kind of fly

1057
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: by the seat of my pants.

1058
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 4: Like you know, my plans change all the time, and

1059
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: I always just kind of go with that. I don't

1060
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,879
Speaker 4: make huge plan I don't have like a five year

1061
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 4: prospectus or anything like that.

1062
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 3: But is there anything that? I mean?

1063
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 4: All I care about really is traveling and seeing as

1064
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 4: much of the world as I possibly can and meeting

1065
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 4: as many interesting people as I possibly can. Those are

1066
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 4: the things I care about the most. I'm very into

1067
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 4: people and I'm very into experience.

1068
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,880
Speaker 2: Okay, what's the best compliment you've ever received.

1069
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 3: That I'm a good listener?

1070
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 1: Really? Are you?

1071
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? I am when I'm interesting.

1072
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: Okay, it comes with the all right, okay, cool.

1073
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 3: Comes with the caveat. You have to write to be

1074
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 3: one of two things interesting, compelling or funny.

1075
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,480
Speaker 2: My last question for you, what's more important to you?

1076
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 2: Respect or love?

1077
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,920
Speaker 3: Love? But I care about being respected, absolutely, it's close.

1078
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,640
Speaker 3: But love is obviously more important than respect.

1079
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, but love requires a certain amount of guard dropping.

1080
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:04,959
Speaker 2: I think as we get older, it's harder to drop

1081
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: our guard.

1082
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, maybe yeah, or it becomes easier depending

1083
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 4: on you know, how self actualized you become as a

1084
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 4: as a grown person. I think I was probably much

1085
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 4: more guarded in my twenties than.

1086
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:19,280
Speaker 3: I am now.

1087
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, at the end of every conversation I have,

1088
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: I have to figure out what it is that I've

1089
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 2: learned from you, and I will say that probably people

1090
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,640
Speaker 2: are always saying live in the present, and to me

1091
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 2: that sounds like a good sound bite, and I'll be like, yeah, yeah, sure,

1092
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: live in the present. But you know, I'm such a

1093
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 2: meticulous planner. And of course I'm a meticulous planner because

1094
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: of whatever trauma is in my rear view mirror in

1095
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 2: the past makes me think, oh, I got to plan

1096
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 2: my future out. And so for me, one of the

1097
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 2: hardest things ever is living in the present. But more

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Speaker 2: than that, you're the first person that I've heard that

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Speaker 2: really makes not working sound appealing to me. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: I might have to seriously take you on your offer.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting your information when we're done this taping, but

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Speaker 2: I will absolutely take you on your offer because I

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Speaker 2: just I need advice on I don't know where to

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Speaker 2: go or who to I mean, for a person that

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Speaker 2: did at least two hundred and fifty days, like I've

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Speaker 2: traveled the world at least fifteen times over as a musician.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I don't feel comfortable unless I am

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Speaker 2: doing a three hour show or DJing at night, So

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Speaker 2: like to go, nothing is like terrifying for me.

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Speaker 1: So I think this kismet that we're.

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Speaker 2: Talking right now because I need someone to convince.

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Speaker 1: Me of that. I thank you for that.

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Speaker 3: Text, Quest, I appreciate it for you.

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