WEBVTT - Google's Phishing Quiz; eSIM Support; Nest vs Ring; Facebook Photo App Shuts Down 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:08.399 Google has a new fishing quiz, nest cams are hacked, 0:00:08.760 --> 0:00:12.480 and another photo app bites the dust. What's going on? 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.840 I'm Richdemiro. This is Rich on Tech coming to you 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:20.480 today from Los Angeles and also live streaming on Facebook, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.600 so thanks for joining me there as well. In this podcast, 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:25.919 I will be taking your calls, plus I'll be talking 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.960 about some great stories. This is the stuff that I 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.080 think you should know about. You know, I cover tech 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.440 for a living, and there's a lot of stories throughout 0:00:33.479 --> 0:00:35.560 the week. But these are the things that I identify 0:00:35.640 --> 0:00:37.360 that I think are important for you to know about. 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:40.320 I think are interesting, and of course you can debate 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.440 that with me. We're all human here. We all have 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:46.720 different things that we think are interesting and noteworthy, of course, 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:48.960 depending which side of the fence you're on, whether it's 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:53.360 Android or iPhone, or Mac or PC, or if you 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:57.960 like you know, home audio and video versus computers versus 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.200 you know, car tech. There's a lot of stuff happening 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:01.880 in the tech world, but the bottom line is it 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:05.080 is all a lot of fun. It's happening fast, and 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:08.680 this is my attempt at helping you understand at least 0:01:09.000 --> 0:01:11.759 a little portion of it. Let's start with Moments. This 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:16.280 is an app from Facebook that was their photo sharing app. 0:01:17.240 --> 0:01:19.520 So this was an app that would basically sync with 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:22.679 the camera roll on your iPhone or your Android and 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.600 put all the pictures kind of into a private area 0:01:25.680 --> 0:01:28.360 of Facebook. But if you wanted to share those either 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:31.560 on Facebook or with friends, this app would make that 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:35.440 process easier. But the problem is apparently nobody used it 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:39.840 or nobody liked it. I remember for a moment talking 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:42.560 about Moments that I actually had. I think my mom 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:46.480 using this app and we decided to switch over at 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.120 a certain point to Google Photos. And I think that's 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:51.800 what a lot of people did, because as of February 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:55.320 twenty fifth, Facebook is shutting down Moments. But they've done 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:57.880 something nice. They've made it very easy to export any 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.000 pictures you have saved in Moments. I don't think you're 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.800 gonna have any pictures in here. I checked and I 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:06.720 had exactly two. One was some sort of screenshot, the 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:08.079 other one was a picture of me and my mom, 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.880 So I was probably demoing this app to her, but 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:13.040 you can check. They made it very easy. All you 0:02:13.040 --> 0:02:14.840 have to do is go to Facebook dot com, slash 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.720 Moments Underscore app slash export, and of course I'll put 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:20.840 all the links that I talk about in the show notes. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:23.040 But if you go there, it will show you how 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.560 many moments you have, and then it will help you 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:31.440 download those moments to a drive or however you want 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.800 to do it. But after the twenty fifth, that's it. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:35.840 This is all gonna be gone. So it's probably a 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:38.320 good idea just to check this website and see if 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:39.840 you have any moments in there. You never know, if 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:42.560 you have a picture lingering in there that maybe you lost. 0:02:42.639 --> 0:02:45.720 Maybe this would be the best case scenario. Maybe you 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:49.160 kind of the worst best case scenario. Let's say you 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.040 lost a whole bunch of pictures last year at some point, right, 0:02:52.280 --> 0:02:54.400 but you forgot that you installed this app on your 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.440 phone and it was secretly or you know, in the background, 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.080 saving your moments, right, your pictures. Well, let's say you're like, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.840 oh my gosh, I look in here, and all of 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.799 a sudden, next thing, you know, you have all these 0:03:04.800 --> 0:03:07.280 pictures that you thought were missing inside this Moment's app. 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.680 I hope that happens for someone. But my recommendation at 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:14.040 this point when it comes to pictures, make sure they're 0:03:14.080 --> 0:03:17.239 saved in two different places. That is on your phone, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:20.560 also on a separate app like Google Photos, and then 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:23.520 another place either a backup hard drive or if you 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:25.760 just want to use everything for free, you can use 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.040 something like Amazon Prime. If you're a Prime member, they 0:03:28.080 --> 0:03:30.560 have a photos app. You can back up your photos 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.080 to there as well. But that's what you need to 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:36.120 know about moments. It is going away. On February twenty fifth, 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.960 you're on with Rich. Who is this? Hi? Rich? 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.960 This is Kashia calling you from johannes Best, South Africa. 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:45.920 How are you doing good? How are you Johannesburg, South Africa. Welcome? 0:03:45.960 --> 0:03:47.840 What's on your minds from Johannesburg. 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.480 I want an iPhone Tennis Max that it has a 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:54.080 dual SAM functionality. One of them is called e SIM. 0:03:54.520 --> 0:03:57.480 Why would Apple maac a phone when there's no ETHIM 0:03:57.520 --> 0:04:00.600 service available in the rest of the countries in America? 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.480 So your question is why do you have the eSIM 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:08.920 functionality if you can't use it? Basically, yeah, well this 0:04:08.960 --> 0:04:12.240 is the thing, so eSIM, as you know, is well. 0:04:12.720 --> 0:04:15.560 The dual SIM functionality has been a function in a 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.280 lot of phones around the world and specifically in the 0:04:19.400 --> 0:04:22.120 US that has not been a big feature, right, So 0:04:22.320 --> 0:04:26.120 Apple decided this time to actually put this feature inside 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.440 the iPhone, the new ones, the ten S, the ten 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:32.760 S Max, and also the ten Are. But they're doing 0:04:32.800 --> 0:04:35.200 this kind of on a worldwide basis, so I think 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.400 what they're the idea is that a lot of the 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.520 other manufacturers do this. It's popular in certain countries like India, 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:44.359 not too popular in the US. But the reality is 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.000 Apple wants to have this feature in the phone so 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:48.440 that they can grow for the future. 0:04:48.640 --> 0:04:51.080 This service to be available in South Africa, a andy zone. 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.040 I think so because here's the thing. In the US, 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:56.960 this has not been available, Like when they first launched 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.800 the phones, it was not available. It takes the carriers 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:03.039 to actually enable it on their systems and make it available. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:05.880 So I think where you are, it will be available. 0:05:05.920 --> 0:05:08.279 It just won't be overnight. You know, the carriers do 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:10.280 have to do some stuff on the back end. But 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.000 once you have it, it's kind of cool. We're already 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:15.880 seeing in America they're really not advertising it that heavily, 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.000 like it's not it's not a thing that they're yet saying, like, hey, 0:05:19.000 --> 0:05:21.320 you should activate a second line on your phone. But 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:24.880 I think that the future is a lot of competition 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.200 could be had from this service. Right, So if you 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:30.839 have one line and you want to have a secondary 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:33.760 line for data or maybe for work or whatever. You're 0:05:33.760 --> 0:05:36.600 an entrepreneur, whatever you want to do, they can make 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:39.200 it so it works for you know, for you to 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.719 activate this secondary line, it doesn't cost very much. So 0:05:42.040 --> 0:05:44.480 I think right now we're just at the very early stages, 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:48.200 and I think that things will heat up Casher in 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:48.720 the future. 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:53.359 That's great, that makes sense, man, Like sext question is 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.400 how do you see I love this phone, by the way, 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:58.080 I love it. It's super fast, you know, I love 0:05:58.080 --> 0:06:00.640 the three D touch stuff, and you know it's it's 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:01.960 good for business though. 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:04.039 Yeah, I like it. You said you have a second question. 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:07.080 The second thing is I want to know, Yeah, like, 0:06:07.160 --> 0:06:10.080 how do you see future of Huawei in worldwide? Like 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:13.600 may pro. I have seen the phone. It's a beautiful 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.200 phone and it's a very nice songe. But we we're 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.560 hearing a lot of stories about Huawei that it has 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.600 a security concern nowadays, you know, to use this kind 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.719 of devices. How do you see this? Like do you 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:24.800 see a future in huawe? 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:28.040 I know this really this really troubles me because here's 0:06:28.040 --> 0:06:31.359 a company that they're making that the make twenty pro 0:06:31.440 --> 0:06:33.760 that people just love. I mean, people are loving the 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:37.080 camera on their high end devices, some of the best 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.600 devices when it comes to the reviewed devices. But like 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.279 you said, now here in the US, they've all but 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:45.039 dried up. You know, people are just not buying their devices. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:46.960 You can't even buy them first party, you have to 0:06:46.960 --> 0:06:49.640 buy them third party in the US. In the rest 0:06:49.640 --> 0:06:53.600 of the world, clearly, Huawei definitely has some you know, 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:56.400 especially in China and in Asia, there's a lot of 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:59.120 people purchasing their devices. I don't know what the future 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.760 is because in a Maria they are definitely getting a 0:07:01.760 --> 0:07:04.520 bad name when it comes to are they spying on you? 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:07.640 Are they doing something bad with your device? And like 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.000 I said, everyone's kind of staying away from them at 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:12.520 this point. When it comes to the main carriers, and 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:14.520 it depends where you are in the world, Like in 0:07:14.560 --> 0:07:18.680 the US, basically people buy their phones through their carriers. 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:21.040 Right in the rest of the world, people some day, 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.200 you know, they mostly buy their phones unlocked or they 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:25.560 buy them, you know, through third party channels. But here 0:07:25.560 --> 0:07:27.880 in the US it's all kind of linked to the carriers. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:31.520 So if the carriers are not accepting Huawei, that means 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:34.040 it's going to be a problem for Huawei. So do 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:36.440 I think they're doing something bad? I would hope not, 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:40.120 but we just don't know. The evidence is not really 0:07:40.160 --> 0:07:44.200 clear right now. I don't think in my experience with them, 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:46.240 I mean, they've seen like really nice phones with a 0:07:46.280 --> 0:07:48.240 lot of great features, so I want to like them. 0:07:48.840 --> 0:07:51.080 But I just think that this point that we're in 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.480 right now is kind of very precarious grounds for them, 0:07:54.800 --> 0:07:57.800 And I think we need competitors like them to shake 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:00.640 things up, because Samsung is great, but you need the 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.240 one Pluses of the world and the Huaweis of the 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:05.920 world to actually, you know, come up against Apple and 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.160 Samsung to innovate and to come out with these devices 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.400 that are less expensive with more features, and that keeps 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:13.320 everyone on their toes. 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:16.680 That's great. Yeah, Like, like I wanted to have Androiduviace 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.320 as well, and I couldn't find any better choice than 0:08:19.400 --> 0:08:21.840 Huawa made twenty pro. But then I had the same 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:24.960 security concern but everyone was talking about it, you know. Yeah, 0:08:24.960 --> 0:08:27.320 So because I also do my business, you know, I'm 0:08:27.320 --> 0:08:29.800 an entrepreneur, so obviously I have a lot of things 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.560 to do, and I was concerned about my security and privacy, 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.600 you know, so I had to, you know, skip on 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.720 this so that Ithi's a very good device, but it's 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.280 sad that I can't have it, you. 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:42.040 Know, I agree, and I think I think a lot 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.200 of people feel just the same way. Wow, look at 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.360 that our first call all the way from South Africa. 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:51.000 That's pretty amazing. What an amazing testament to uh to 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:54.439 technology that you can call me for free from all 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:57.360 the way anywhere in the world. Let's move on to Google. Now, 0:08:57.360 --> 0:09:01.320 they've got this great thing online. It's a Google Phishing 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:06.240 I guess it's not a phishing website. It's a website 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:09.080 that helps you kind of take a quiz if you 0:09:09.120 --> 0:09:12.520 can spot when you're being phished. And this is really neat. 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:17.320 I took this quiz and I will say I scored Okay, 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.120 I got one wrong out of I think it was 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:24.240 eight questions. But the website is phishingquiz dot with Google 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:27.160 dot com. Now, by the way, even that website doesn't 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.920 seem very good, right. If I was Google, I would 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.680 have put this on my main website so that people 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.520 didn't think that this website was fake, but it's fishingquiz 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.600 dot with Google dot com, And so you go to 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:40.080 this website and you take a little quiz and it 0:09:40.120 --> 0:09:43.199 goes through the emails that you might get in your Gmail, 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:46.400 what they might look like, and you have to decide 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:49.120 if they're real or fake. And what's really neat about 0:09:49.120 --> 0:09:52.199 this is you may be a pro and still get 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.240 caught up in this. And phishing is a real big 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:57.240 problem right now because that is how we're giving away 0:09:57.400 --> 0:10:01.840 our credentials to websites. Right, you think, oh, my gosh, 0:10:01.920 --> 0:10:04.280 how in the world are you, You know, how in 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:06.400 the world are you getting hacked these days? Right? Because 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:09.320 who logs into some random website. Well, the reality is 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:13.000 what's happening is that we're getting an email, and inside 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.320 that email, it says, hey, alert, your Facebook account was 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:20.040 just hacked. Please log in here and make sure everything's okay. 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:22.600 And you go, oh gosh, let me go change my password, 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:25.720 and you log in without thinking because the email looks 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:27.880 just like the email you might get from Facebook, and 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.640 next thing you know, the hackers are off and running 0:10:29.679 --> 0:10:31.200 with all of your credentials. And I talk about this 0:10:31.240 --> 0:10:34.040 all the time. The main way to protect yourself is 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.800 through what's called two factor authentication. And with two factor authentication, 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:41.440 you sign up with your phone number and once you 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:44.040 have your phone number in there, it will text you 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.920 a code that you must enter once you log into 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:52.120 a website before that website will allow that login to proceed. 0:10:52.960 --> 0:10:55.439 And the idea behind this is that you will have 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:58.200 the code on your phone. If someone's logging into your 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:01.280 website from say, you know, Russia, uh, they won't have 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.000 the code because it's going to your phone. So they 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.880 may have your login and password, your username and password, 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:08.440 but they won't have that special code which really gets 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:11.880 you in. So take the Google Phishing quiz, definitely learn 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.960 from it and you will. You will. You will realize 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.880 just how tricky some of these emails are. And what 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.360 it really comes down to is looking at the URLs 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:23.120 of the links that you're clicking. And to be honest, 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.280 I would definitely not click any links that you get 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:28.280 it in an email. I mean, you just can't click 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.320 them unless it's like a YouTube link, you know, but 0:11:30.360 --> 0:11:33.040 even that can be bad. So if it's asking you 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:34.839 to log in, Let's say you get an email from 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.400 your bank saying, hey, we suspect fraud on your account. 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:40.280 Don't ever click the link inside that. Just go to 0:11:40.320 --> 0:11:44.080 your bank's website, log in, and then that way you 0:11:44.120 --> 0:11:47.640 can see exactly what's going on from a fresh perspective, 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.280 and not from a website that someone just happens to 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.400 be sending you. So good information there. 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:55.480 Rich, it's Greg from the av. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.240 Hey Greg, longtime, no talk. 0:11:58.440 --> 0:12:01.760 Yes, Happy New Years. A real quick question. I have 0:12:01.960 --> 0:12:05.920 some old DHS movies. They're not available on d D 0:12:06.200 --> 0:12:08.040 I search everywhere. 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:09.679 Is there a. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:14.160 Copyright law as far excuse me, as far as like 0:12:14.720 --> 0:12:19.240 maybe taking it to Costco or will they not do it. 0:12:19.160 --> 0:12:22.520 Because they're not going to do it. They will do it. No, 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.080 you could do it. They're not gonna do it. They're 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:30.000 you know, they use a company called Yes Video, and 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.600 I don't think they're gonna anything that's a commercial tape. 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:36.559 They're just not going to touch. So, but you can 0:12:36.559 --> 0:12:38.319 do it as long as now here's the thing. When 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:40.840 you run this thing through your computer, it may scramble. 0:12:40.840 --> 0:12:43.040 I don't know. It depends on the tape. It may not, 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:45.640 you know, it may it may have copyright protection built in. 0:12:46.120 --> 0:12:48.200 So that's gonna be something you're have to figure out. 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.080 But I would try it. I mean, you can see 0:12:50.080 --> 0:12:53.120 if you want to save these things, you know, just 0:12:53.360 --> 0:12:56.880 get the I've got an article up if you if 0:12:56.920 --> 0:12:59.160 you look at the if you look at my website 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:02.120 and just search vhy, you should see the article that 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:05.480 I did on recently on converting stuff. And I've been 0:13:05.520 --> 0:13:08.240 doing it for old home movies and it's pretty simple. 0:13:08.240 --> 0:13:12.920 But the do you have a macro PC? I forget? Okay, 0:13:12.960 --> 0:13:15.960 So the thing to get is the rock SiO Easy 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:20.600 Easy VHS to DVD I think it's called. And you know, 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:22.720 you'll just need to connect your VCR to your computer 0:13:22.760 --> 0:13:24.280 and you can do it all. It all happens in 0:13:24.320 --> 0:13:27.079 real time though, so it's gonna take a while for sure. 0:13:27.480 --> 0:13:30.560 Oh yeah, okay, all right, well I will try that 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:32.880 and I will look on your website. Thank you so much. 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:35.520 All right, Greg, have a great day. Amazon this week 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:40.240 announced a new delivery system. So this is Amazon Scout. 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:44.480 It looks like a little autonomous robot and it is 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:48.800 a delivery robot, so it's real. It's happening. They're using 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:53.400 it in a neighborhood north of Seattle, probably butchering the name, 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:58.080 but it's called Snowhomish County, Washington, and this little electric 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:02.120 delivery robot is very small. It looks like a wagon 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.160 on wheels. It holds I don't know, it looks like 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.560 it holds one package. And when it comes up to 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:10.240 your house, I'm guessing it texts you or it somehow 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:13.000 alerts you, and then the top pops open when you 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.440 walk out, and you pick out your package and you 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:17.240 go back on your merry way. There's a lot of 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:20.040 questions here, So if you're not home, what does it 0:14:20.080 --> 0:14:22.520 do if you're you know, how does it know you're 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:24.480 the person to pick up the package? How does it 0:14:24.520 --> 0:14:26.760 know you're not just some random stranger that's coming to 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:30.480 pick up every package. But it looks interesting. They're gonna 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.960 be testing it in this county in northern Washington, and 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:37.320 if it works, we may see these devices on sidewalks 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.400 across America. But the thing is all these companies are 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.800 really trying to trying to make it cheaper to deliver packages. 0:14:44.840 --> 0:14:46.600 I mean, if you look around in these neighborhoods, I've 0:14:46.600 --> 0:14:49.280 got people riding bikes in my neighborhood delivering all these 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:51.920 Amazon packages. I mean, there's so many that they're delivering 0:14:52.360 --> 0:14:55.760 that it's gotten kind of crazy and just all these 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.520 trucks they've got so Amazon, you know, obviously we know 0:14:58.560 --> 0:15:01.240 they're experimenting with the drones. Now they're trying out this 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.000 little autonomous delivery robot. We'll see how it works in 0:15:04.040 --> 0:15:06.320 real life though, because it looks all nice. They shot 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:08.880 the little promo video on the Universal back lot, you know, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:12.920 unlike that Wisteria Lane road. But we'll see how this 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.880 works in the real neighborhood. So that's what I'm curious 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.000 to see, with real people and real you know, dogs 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:22.000 running around and sidewalks that are all messed up. So 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.240 I'm curious. But if Amazon can deliver me stuff even faster, 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:27.560 which they're doing a pretty good job right now, I'm 0:15:27.600 --> 0:15:30.120 all for it. Now let's take another call. We've got Arturo. 0:15:30.280 --> 0:15:30.720 What's up. 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:37.720 I'm coming on regards to these discreet cloud services like 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:44.840 Microsoft Azure. I think IBM's flavor is blue. I think 0:15:44.840 --> 0:15:49.400 it's what it's called where they help you to develop 0:15:49.760 --> 0:15:54.480 a software but kind of worried about after perhaps a 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.120 certain point, then they start charging. Then you're at hostage, 0:15:57.240 --> 0:16:03.360 Like I get the impression like a hostage of Wow, 0:16:03.440 --> 0:16:08.600 I'm I have all this data in their cloud and 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:13.120 that software, which I very much enjoyed, but I'm at 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:14.800 a hostage at their prices. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:20.520 Right. That's kind of the way of the world right 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:23.040 now with everything. I mean, this is you know, so 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:25.120 here's the thing. So they're making it easy for you 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:27.680 to develop on their platform, right, and that's kind of 0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.040 the beauty of it. Like you have this amazing opportunity 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:32.720 where you can choose from all these different aws or 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.520 like you said, Zuer, you know, any of these different 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:39.120 platforms that you like, you can start, you know, doing 0:16:39.120 --> 0:16:41.920 whatever you want, building a business inside those. But what 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.680 happens is, just like you said, the bigger you get, 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.440 the more you're sort of locked in. And I kind 0:16:47.440 --> 0:16:49.600 of found this out, you know, in various ways. But 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.760 I mean, if you look at the consumer level, something 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.240 like Google Photos, people start storing their pictures in there 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.440 for free. After a while, you're like, oh wait a second, 0:16:57.480 --> 0:16:59.400 Now that I've got twenty thousand, it's really tough to 0:16:59.440 --> 0:17:02.600 take those somewhere else, right. They call it locking. Same 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:05.080 things happening here, same thing happens with me. With a 0:17:05.160 --> 0:17:08.359 lot of these services, they become really easy something as 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:11.280 simple as like Mailchimp, you know, a service that lets 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:14.600 you manage your mailing address right your mailing list. Well, 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.160 all of a sudden, you've got eight ten thousand emails 0:17:17.160 --> 0:17:20.159 in there. You built up, you know, your templates and 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:22.920 your emails that you send out regularly, and you've got 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.040 all your analytics. And what you know is five dollars 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:27.520 less a month going to make you switch to a 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:30.159 different service. So this is kind of the way of 0:17:30.160 --> 0:17:32.880 the world, I think, And I don't know which, which 0:17:32.880 --> 0:17:34.639 one are you trying to build in and is that 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:35.479 your main concern? 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:41.560 Well, I'm with the Los Angeles Pool League and we 0:17:41.600 --> 0:17:48.399 are looking to possibly have a have a cloud where 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:51.919 we can have the stats since things of that nature, 0:17:52.040 --> 0:17:59.400 and also these consolidated services. And if it's a nonprofit, 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:04.719 I it's not profit organization, it's there. I presume these 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:10.240 kind of questions are best with to ask those respected merchants, 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:16.199 But just wondering if that may may also help in 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.960 regards to the Los Angeles Fool League or any any 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:21.320 non profit organization. 0:18:22.080 --> 0:18:24.399 Well, I don't know what they're what they're you know 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:26.960 set up is for nonprofits versus you know, if you're 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.320 a for profit business, they may you know, have a 0:18:29.400 --> 0:18:32.119 separate tier or something like that. But I think you 0:18:32.240 --> 0:18:34.959 just have to weigh kind of like the the growth, 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:36.240 like how long are you going to be with this? 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:37.800 How much is it going to cost? Is it in 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:40.160 the budget? And once you get to a level where 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:43.080 it's starting to cost, you know, it does this grow exponentially? 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.000 You know, Let's say you start using this and it's 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:46.480 you know, a couple of people are on board, but 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.280 then all of a sudden it gets really popular whatever 0:18:48.280 --> 0:18:50.960 you're building and it's being used by a lot of people. 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:54.160 Is that gonna you know, basically, is it gonna break 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.959 your your budget? You know, if you have a budget 0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:58.840 at all. So I think those are the questions you 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.200 kind of have to ask when you're searching these systems. 0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:04.520 But look in this day and age, it's all the same. 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:09.560 We're getting we're getting faster access to more tools quickly, 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:13.400 but the reality is there's always down the road, kind 0:19:13.400 --> 0:19:16.920 of that downside of the more you lean on something, 0:19:17.320 --> 0:19:19.840 the more you're kind of in it, and it's tough 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:22.679 to get out. And I think, you know, it's just 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:24.840 kind of the way we're seeing with all technology. So 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.040 good question, but I think a lot of it Arturo 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:32.280 comes down to just researching and seeing which of these 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.720 services works the best and which one you think you 0:19:34.760 --> 0:19:39.119 can comfortably grow with. So yeah, people commenting inside the 0:19:39.400 --> 0:19:41.960 podcast on the live stream, Yes, we are the product. 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:47.080 In fact, Facebook came out and said that the reason 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:50.639 why they exist is because we hand over our data 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.200 for free and they're able to sell ads across our data. 0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:58.040 And so that's the reality all this stuff online these days. 0:19:58.080 --> 0:20:00.840 The stuff that you get for free, you're getting it 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.879 for free because the business is making money off of 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:07.880