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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks Ten takeaways from week with

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah, Bucky Brooks and Rhett Lewis. What's up, everybody,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Move the Six presented by A R P.

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Speaker 1: D J. Rhett. Bucky is going to join us as

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Speaker 1: well from over in England and Bucky then coming back home.

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Speaker 1: I believe this evening right we get Buck old Man

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Speaker 1: on home team. He is back just in time for

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Speaker 1: the big Senior Bowl reveal show which is coming up tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: Right here Moved Sticks Podcast, the official reveal home of

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowl rosters this year. Pretty much. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: got a chance to look at that list. You guys

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Speaker 1: are gonna be intrigued by some of the names that

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Speaker 1: show up, especially with the quarterback position. Can be a

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Speaker 1: very very intriguing group there at the at the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl to reach the Senior Bowl down there in Mobile, Alabama.

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Speaker 1: So that'll be coming tomorrow. But Rett Eye, I say

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Speaker 1: we just jump right in, man. We've got we've got

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Speaker 1: ten takeaways to unleash. And it started to me the

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Speaker 1: first takeaway maybe the biggest storyline of the entire weekend,

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Speaker 1: and that is the forty Ironers losing a heartbreaker. Julio

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Speaker 1: What they talking about? The gold isn't short. I think

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Speaker 1: next call, things would change. Here's roll Standard broke the

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Speaker 1: He's not a good route runner, He's he's just a

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Speaker 1: straight line, explosive player who you know, look at Bruce

429
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Speaker 1: arians history and what does he like and who does

430
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Speaker 1: he him, you know, like to use at the wide

431
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Speaker 1: receiver position. What skills is he covered? It's what Brashad

432
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Speaker 1: Perriman has and what he does. Ironically, I think with

433
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Speaker 1: the way the Ravens offense is now with Sean Perriman,

434
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Speaker 1: actually what fit would actually fit there now? So um,

435
00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: sometimes he's not. He just does not a scheme diverse guy.

436
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 1: He's not somebody would have fit anywhere he went, and

437
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: it wasn't a good fit there. I think it's an

438
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Speaker 1: important distinction to make. I think he's found a nice

439
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Speaker 1: little home for himself there in Tampa. We like to

440
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Speaker 1: see that, all right. I'll get a store. Next takeaway

441
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Speaker 1: here and that is that the Texans are one step

442
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Speaker 1: closer to the a f C South Crown. First, for

443
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Speaker 1: going with the ten split backs, Watson of the gun,

444
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Speaker 1: Watson hands off to hide, wanting to the left. Carlos

445
00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:29,440
Speaker 1: has the five Carlos to the pylon. He's in touchdown.

446
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Speaker 1: Houston ten yard t d run hel Guapo for the lead.

447
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: Guappo for the lead. Uh yeah, some big tests here

448
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: down the stretch for Houston in these last couple of weeks.

449
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: They failed a couple, as we saw with the Ravens

450
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Speaker 1: game and then with the Broncos game. But with the Patriots,

451
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: they get the win there. They come back in a

452
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Speaker 1: must have on the road against Tennessee and they get

453
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Speaker 1: the win here. Take care of your division, and they're

454
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Speaker 1: doing that here as they've proven this week. The defense

455
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,520
Speaker 1: stepped up in a big in this game. Early on

456
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Speaker 1: when it was kind of going back and forth here,

457
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: Tannehill had them in position for a score and Whitney

458
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 1: merciless picks off a pass off a deflection here and

459
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Speaker 1: then returns it deep into Tennessee Titans territory as you're seeing.

460
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Speaker 1: And this is where I felt the games start to

461
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Speaker 1: swing a little bit, because a couple of plays later,

462
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Speaker 1: Shaun Watson ends up finding Kenny Stills for a touchdown,

463
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 1: ended up finding Stills twice, and you're gonna see one

464
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Speaker 1: of those on the aftermath a bit later in an

465
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Speaker 1: exo You're doing um, which I'm excited to see because

466
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Speaker 1: I feel like with skills in Fuller, healthy and with

467
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Speaker 1: a commitment to Carlos Hide, which we heard from a

468
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Speaker 1: very eloquently from Mark vandermir there on the radio, call um,

469
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:41,960
Speaker 1: the Texans offense is a force. It's a force to

470
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Speaker 1: be reckoned with. When they can run the run the

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Speaker 1: ball with Carlos Hide, They've got a really good receiver

472
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Speaker 1: trio because Will Fuller speed gives them so many options,

473
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Speaker 1: makes them so much more dangerous, and then Kenny Stills

474
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Speaker 1: is a really good third piece to that wide receiver trio.

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Speaker 1: I still think this team is going to be a

476
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Speaker 1: tough out in the playoffs, and I think Kenning Stills

477
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: it was kind of you, almost like a throw in.

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Speaker 1: He has been a really good pick up there. I

479
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Speaker 1: think he's got what over five hundred yards receiving. He's

480
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Speaker 1: got four touchdowns uh this year. But the speed element,

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Speaker 1: when you have Deshaun or when you have Hopkins, sorry

482
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Speaker 1: we have new Copkins on one side, you know he's

483
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Speaker 1: going to get all the attention. And so when you

484
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Speaker 1: have speed opposite of him, when you have with two

485
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Speaker 1: guys with Fuller and Stills, they're gonna get man coverage

486
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Speaker 1: and you're gonna be able to find there. When you

487
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Speaker 1: look at teams matching up with wide receivers, you go

488
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Speaker 1: three wide, you're gonna see three corners out there. Very

489
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Speaker 1: few teams have three corners that can really really run.

490
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Speaker 1: And so you're gonna get a match up there with

491
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Speaker 1: one of those two guys that you like, and they've

492
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Speaker 1: been able to take advantage of that down the field

493
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Speaker 1: with some deep shots. Also, I'd had the offensive line

494
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Speaker 1: played pretty well in this game, uh, protecting Deshaun Watson,

495
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Speaker 1: keeping him upright, and then also his ability to extend plays.

496
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Speaker 1: When you go through the tape, I actually pull out

497
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Speaker 1: the phone on the stop watch because a couple of

498
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: these times it's you're talking six seconds. You're asking these

499
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Speaker 1: guys hold coverage and you get rambles, and it's just

500
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: that is a tall ask for your secondary. So this

501
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 1: team who pushed all their chips into the table when

502
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Speaker 1: they made that trade to go get Laramie Tunsil, they're

503
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: all in right now. So to me, this is um.

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Speaker 1: This is a I feel almost a little bit of

505
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Speaker 1: desperation here with this group. They've got to get to

506
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Speaker 1: the postseason. They've got to make some hey in the postseason.

507
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: This year they committed to it. No, I think you're right.

508
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Speaker 1: And the last thing I'll say about the Texans last year,

509
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,439
Speaker 1: I felt like they they just ran out of bodies

510
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Speaker 1: at wide receiver, they ran out of bodies at corner,

511
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: and they were never as good as they are right

512
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Speaker 1: now up front on the offensive line side. Now, just

513
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Speaker 1: you talked about corners, now difficult it is to find

514
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Speaker 1: three corners. Look at the talent that they've acquired at

515
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Speaker 1: corner in Houston. They've got Gary and Connley they traded

516
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Speaker 1: for this year. They have Vernon Hargraves. Lonnie Johnson was

517
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Speaker 1: their second round pick this year. They've got the old

518
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 1: standby and Jonathan Joseph and then Bradley Roby also who

519
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 1: has been been banged up at times this year. That's

520
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: four first round picks and a second. Now, look, I

521
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: get that a lot of those guys are Texans now

522
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Speaker 1: for a reason, the previous team felt it was okay

523
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Speaker 1: to move on from them underachieved. But there's some depth

524
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Speaker 1: there that they're building. Whereas if one of those guys

525
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Speaker 1: goes down, it's not the whole thing is gonna fall apart.

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Speaker 1: So I think that's interesting as we could get into

527
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Speaker 1: the postseason as well. Well. They need him to hit

528
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Speaker 1: because they got no draft picks. We'll see how this

529
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: goes down the stretcher. This is their draft class, all right,

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Speaker 1: Let's keep the train moving here. Josh Allen for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: He might not be the perfect quarterback, but he is

532
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Speaker 1: the perfect quarterback for Buffalo. Sixteen seconds left. Here's the snap.

533
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Speaker 1: Hodges looks, looks, runs through his left, directing traffic, fires

534
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Speaker 1: it into the end zone. It is picked up, it

535
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Speaker 1: is intercepted, It is picked up by the Bills that

536
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,680
Speaker 1: should do it leave by Wallace comes up with the pick.

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Speaker 1: His teammates surround him down in the end zone. Interception

538
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Speaker 1: for the Bills. With six seconds left, Wallace comes up

539
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Speaker 1: with the pick. The Bills are going to the postseason. Yeah,

540
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: you heard the call there on the defense generating four interception.

541
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Speaker 1: Four interceptions in this game. And I talked about Josh Allen,

542
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Speaker 1: you talk about the defense. It all goes together. It's

543
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,120
Speaker 1: a complimentary team. It's built. They have a formula. We've

544
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: talked about it all year long. Protect the football, get

545
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 1: a couple explosive plays. Josh Allen can make a couple

546
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: of those splash plays. You know, I'm not gonna wow,

547
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: he's not gonna complete you know of his balls, but

548
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: he did hit some big shots to John Brown down

549
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 1: the field. And the defense they're gonna win a lot

550
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 1: of these type of games just because they turn you

551
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: over and they've done it all year long. And look,

552
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: I think you hit it. Hit the nail right on

553
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: the head with your tagline there, Josh Allen is the

554
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: perfect quarterback for the Buffalo Bills. It's not gonna be

555
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 1: the prettiest offense you've ever seen. It's not gonna be

556
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Speaker 1: the you know, the k gun with with Jim Kelly

557
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Speaker 1: back in the days of the early nineties and the

558
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: late eighties. But this is the perfect complement to a

559
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,320
Speaker 1: physical defense and a defense that will always keep you

560
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: in games. By the way, defense that has probably one

561
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Speaker 1: of the best corners now in football. You heard Collinsworth

562
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: wax poetic about it all night long. White, Uh, and

563
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: we might see both of those corners, both of the

564
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: top two corners in football square off head to head

565
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Speaker 1: this week and Stephan Gilmour for the Patriots and for

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Speaker 1: the Bills trade abous White and um, you know, I'll

567
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,760
Speaker 1: mention it on the aftermath as well later today. But

568
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 1: how how much does it say about the Bills that

569
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: I feel like one of the biggest tests that will

570
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: help us learn about the Patriots will come this week

571
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 1: against the Bills And that the a f C East

572
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,120
Speaker 1: is not completely sewn up just yet. I think that's

573
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,640
Speaker 1: a real credit to what Buffalo is built there. Kim

574
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 1: Jones mentioned it in our production meeting. Uh. They have

575
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: built a culture there that she said other teams that

576
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: she covers have been trying to build. They've got it

577
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: right now in Buffalo. And we gave them a hard time,

578
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, And we gave them a

579
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: hard time when they were letting all that talent walk

580
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: out the door, sending them all on their ways. You

581
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 1: remember the three the three day one starters that walked

582
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: off the bus in UH Doug Whaley's final draft class.

583
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: There a lot of those guys were sent packing, you know,

584
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 1: Marcel Darius sent packing, a former you know, top five

585
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: pick in this league, and you're like, what are they

586
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: doing over there? All this talent is leaving. Well, they

587
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: were building something and the ownership group should be given

588
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: credit for giving them the time and the opportunity to

589
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 1: go ahead and do that. And for them to get

590
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: their second playoff appearance UM in three years with Sean

591
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: McDermott is pretty special. UM. On the flip side, the

592
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: Steelers can win out and still get into the playoffs. UM,

593
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: but they can't run the ball fifteen times and have

594
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: Duck Hodges throw it thirty eight times. That's that just

595
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: can't out. And they were never down that big in

596
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Speaker 1: this game. That's why I'm trying to figure it out.

597
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: I get you were trying to limit James Conner and

598
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 1: his first game back from the shoulder injury, But there

599
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: are the guys that you can hand it off to right,

600
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: no doubt, and look at what they have left. They're

601
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: at the Jets, at the Ravens. I guess maybe their

602
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 1: hope is the Ravens have it all sewn up at

603
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 1: that point in time, and maybe they rest. But that's uh,

604
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: trust me, Baltimore would love nothing more if that was

605
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: the final punch today, Steelers out of the playoffs. That

606
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: trust me, they would get a kick out of that.

607
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: So no, it's that was a very very bizarre play

608
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Speaker 1: calling in that one, just in terms of how they

609
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Speaker 1: did it. But I want to add the last point

610
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Speaker 1: before we move on to the next one, um, and

611
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Speaker 1: that is having your coach and your GM on same

612
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 1: page and those guys have a relationship in Buffalo back

613
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 1: to Carolina. I think that's a key part of it

614
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: as they've been able to turn this thing around. Uh

615
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: there in Buffalo. Alright, what's good point? Next? Up? The

616
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: Patriots turned it on in Cincinnati? Now, how do they

617
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: move on from Cincinnati? Takes the staff fires to the right,

618
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: Goodbye to the thirties, less sideline forty to the thirties,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Gilmore to the chad and root to his second

620
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: picks six of the season, cuts down Patriots Gill luck

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Speaker 1: that one up. What what an angle by Gilmore off

622
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Speaker 1: this Patriots shoplitz late Gilmore closes, it's a throw to

623
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Speaker 1: the flat. Jillie Luck jumps it for sixty four yard touchdown.

624
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: What a second half start by him there? And there's

625
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: that other corner we're talking about stuff on Gilmore? I mean,

626
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Speaker 1: is he a Defensive Player of the Year candidate? Absolutely right,

627
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Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be the first one to win it. Yeah,

628
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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a real possible right there,

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Speaker 1: He's right, he's right there. Uh So, look, this is

630
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Speaker 1: a win for the Patriots. Let's call it what it is.

631
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: But does it do much to tell us what to

632
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 1: expect from them moving forward? Yes, their defense got back

633
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: to their big playways, right, forcing uh three turnovers on

634
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: the first four possessions for the Bengals in the second half.

635
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 1: Um they ended all three of the first four in

636
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: the second half of the Bengals ended in picks. One

637
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: of them was returned for a score. The other Bengals

638
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: possession that that I was talking about was a punt.

639
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: This game was over at that point. Uh. The special

640
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Speaker 1: teams recovered a muff punt that turned into points in

641
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Speaker 1: the end of the first half as well. But here's

642
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Speaker 1: here's again where we're drawing the questions. Tom Brady, I

643
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: think something like just over two yards per attempt, which

644
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: was the second lowest of his career. Um. You know, yeah,

645
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: I mean to say that they put up thirty four

646
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: points and Brady only through for you know, h twenty

647
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 1: eight whatever it was is that's kind of crazy. Julian

648
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: Edelman is banged up, and that's bad use because he

649
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,000
Speaker 1: was He has been legitimately all they have out there

650
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: at receiver for the last few weeks. Can he get

651
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: healthy in time for a postseason run? Um? They did

652
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: utilize the running back group a little more creatively and

653
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: a little more than I think we've seen in recent weeks.

654
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: James White, Sony Michelle had a pretty good day run

655
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: in the football. Rex Bert get in there as well. Um.

656
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: So you know, as I mentioned when we were talking

657
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: about the Bills, what does it say about the Patriots

658
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: team that we're gonna find out a little bit more

659
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Speaker 1: about them heading into Week sixteen in a game against

660
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: a good Bills team in a game and at this

661
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: point of a season where they have not sewn up

662
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: the a f C East where it's not a foregone conclusion.

663
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Speaker 1: So that that's how I feel about the Patriots at

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Speaker 1: this point. The crazy thing is we can talk about

665
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 1: all the flaws with this football team, and there are

666
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: many on the offensive side of the ball. They said

667
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 1: at eleven and three, I mean, is that so lucky

668
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 1: that you get to the point, you get to the

669
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: point where that organization is where literally the national storyline is,

670
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: these guys stink, and they're eleven and three, and they've

671
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: got a chance if they can finish the season here,

672
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: get the number two seed. You're gonna get a by,

673
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to get a little bit refreshed,

674
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: get a little healthy. You're gonna get two weeks to

675
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: study an opponent. You feel good about Bill Belichick having

676
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks there. You're at home, probably in

677
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: the snow and Foxborough. I mean, I don't care who

678
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: rolls in there that game, You're probably gonna feel good

679
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 1: if you're the Patriots, and then in all likelihood you're

680
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: gonna get a rematch with the Baltimore Ravens and you're

681
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: in the super Bowl. I mean that that's what's that's

682
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: what's so crazy as flawed and as ugly as this is,

683
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: they still have everything all in front of them. I mean,

684
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: make no mistake, like I'm not counting them out in

685
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They get a home playoff game, they are

686
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: as good as good a thought as anybody to win

687
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: in that situation. But it just doesn't feel like the

688
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: teams that we've seen in the past where they are

689
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 1: clicking on all cylinders at this point in a season.

690
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: That's that's the only point that I got there, no doubt.

691
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to my ninth one here, and

692
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: that was a fun battle between Heisman winning teams. Phone

693
00:32:55,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: to watch there with Kyler and Baker aready one seconds

694
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: to go and to have Murray back to pass as

695
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: time floats at right side corner of the end zone

696
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: and it is caught. Touchdown. Dan Arnold. The Cardinals really

697
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: like him. They got him off waivers from the Saints,

698
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: the former undrafted player out of Wisconsin Plattville. With his

699
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,400
Speaker 1: first catch as a Cardinal. Its a touchdown. There. You

700
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: go listening to Kyler Murray do his thing there, and

701
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: this is a game. Kenyan Drake running the football, well,

702
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: you look at Nick Chubb running the football, well, man,

703
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: you want that to be able to support your young quarterbacks.

704
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Speaker 1: But I thought when you just looked at the two

705
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: between Kyler and Baker, I thought just a more a

706
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 1: cleaner game there from Kyler making some plays with his

707
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: legs as well. Is it fair to like go back

708
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: and just kind of combine these two drafts and just say, hey,

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Speaker 1: if you gave all thirty two teams an option, uh,

710
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: in all thirty two teams needed a quarterback, and Kyler

711
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: and Baker were in the same draft, and they had

712
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Speaker 1: all had a shot at either one of them that

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Speaker 1: the majority of them with lean which way like that?

714
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that is I think you would

715
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Speaker 1: you might be surprised, though, I think it might be

716
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: a little bit close. You'll have some Baker people. Um,

717
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,440
Speaker 1: but I just think Kyler Murray, I look at them

718
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: and I saw you see some of the clips we're

719
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,840
Speaker 1: looking at right now. Man, the blueprint for this organization exists,

720
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I think he you know, even

721
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 1: Lamar is gonna win the MVP this year. But I

722
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: think if you put them out on the field and

723
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: had a throwing contest between Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson,

724
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 1: and Kyler Murray would win going away. That's crazy to

725
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: think about and just more consistent. So to me, you

726
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: go out, they're gonna go hunting for tight ends. I

727
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,160
Speaker 1: would if your Cliff Kingsbury, I'd go out. I'd try

728
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: and emulate a little bit. Don't take the whole offense,

729
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: because you can do some different things there. But I'd

730
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: be trying to build and copy a little bit of

731
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Speaker 1: what the Baltimore Ravens have done to incorporate Kyler a

732
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: little bit more as a runner. He does. He's more

733
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Speaker 1: reluctant runner, uh than Lamar. He likes sit back there

734
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Speaker 1: in the pocket. But man, you saw it a couple

735
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 1: of times when they went with the three man backfield, Um,

736
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Speaker 1: he took off. I mean, he's just got ridiculous athleticism.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to incorporate a little more of that. Well,

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00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: you hit on it, and that was one of my

739
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: questions that I was gonna have for you here about

740
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: this game. What do the Cardinals need to do to

741
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: be a tin win team? You mentioned the tight ends.

742
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: I think offensive line upgrade is pretty obvious as well. Uh.

743
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: And then you know, like, what's your biggest priority on defense?

744
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Because you gotta pass in the second you gotta find

745
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: you gotta find another playmaker in the secondary. We'll see

746
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 1: what happens with Patrick Peterson going forward. But they just

747
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: need more blue chip players really at all three levels.

748
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: Just guys that can make plays. Um, that's what they're

749
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: missing right now in my opinion. But they're gonna get

750
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: a chance. They'll have an offseason here. If you look

751
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: at the free agent list and what we got, plenty

752
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: of time to dig into that ship the road. Potentially

753
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 1: some some intriguing tight ends that could hit the marketplace.

754
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: So to me, that would be the first place I'd

755
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 1: look offensively to add them into the mix. I just

756
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: left that game feeling more hopeful about the Cardinals than

757
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 1: he did about the Browns. And the Browns have their

758
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: literated with talent, littered with talent. All right, I'll get

759
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: a store final. I'll get a store final. Takeaway yere

760
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: and I hope this isn't his last, but if it is,

761
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: Eli goes out in New York in the way in

762
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: which he will be remembered, which is as a winner.

763
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: Barkley was the right of banning and a shotgun set

764
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: manning out a play fake looks right, throws right past,

765
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Speaker 1: take thanks, he said, five backs into the end soon

766
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Speaker 1: for a touchdown fifty one yards banning the tap. I

767
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: have got something I want to pass along after on

768
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: what happened right after that particular play right there, DJ.

769
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Speaker 1: But a few things about my Paleli here, which you know,

770
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: obviously we've made no reservations about on this show. Like

771
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm very close with the family, um buddies with Eli.

772
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: And so here's here's what I'll say. Uh, In this

773
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: the NFL is year, we've been celebrating all kinds of

774
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 1: top moments and plays and players in the history of

775
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 1: the game, and rightly so. And I think what are

776
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 1: the list that we don't have that Eli would appear on?

777
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Is the list of top faces of the franchise Because

778
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: in New York, nobody has done it better than Eli has.

779
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Nobody has handled being the franchise quarterback in the country's

780
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: number one media market, um better than Eli has. And

781
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: I was awesome to see the Giants fans and the

782
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: Giants organization as a whole show him that kind of

783
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: respect yesterday and and recognize him throughout the game. Was

784
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: it his best stat line? No, No, it wasn't. But

785
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 1: was it enough to win? Yes? And that's how he

786
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: should and likely will be remembered in New York as

787
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: a winner, a two times Super Bowl champion. Uh, he'll

788
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: go down as the only quarterback in NFL history to

789
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: upstage Tom Brady on the game's biggest stage twice. No

790
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: one else will be able to claim that feat. Were

791
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 1: there some lean years in between the Super Bowls and

792
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl the last one, absolutely, but he

793
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: was the same guy throughout all of it, whether they

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00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: were eleven and five or five and eleven. Um. And

795
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: I thought this quote from his dad, Archie Manning was

796
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: there in the stands, kind of put it really well. Um.

797
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: He said, I hate to say this about Elin, I

798
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: hate to say that he doesn't give up crap, but

799
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: about a lot of things, he doesn't give a crap,

800
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: Archie said. And then he also went on to say,

801
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: I've heard people tell me that if Peyton played here,

802
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,320
Speaker 1: he had choked some of y'all. Talking about the media.

803
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 1: I went on to say, your children, your your children

804
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: are different. Uh. It's a great call there from arch

805
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: because he wasn't always the quarterback they wanted in New York,

806
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: but he was always the guy in the teammate teammate

807
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,760
Speaker 1: that they needed in New York. Um. He was always

808
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 1: available for his teammates, a true iron man in the

809
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,280
Speaker 1: same man Sunday's, Monday's, Friday's win or lost, winning season,

810
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: losing season, a steady hand the entire time in New York.

811
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 1: He never made the game about himself, although his teammates

812
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: certainly made this game about him, because, as we showed

813
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: you and as I alluded to after that Golden Tate

814
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,000
Speaker 1: touchdown catch, the first thing Golden Tate did after crossing

815
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: the goal line was make a b line Eli Manning

816
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: and hand him the football. Um. I think everyone kind

817
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,439
Speaker 1: of knew that this might in fact be his final start,

818
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: at least in New York. And uh, I thought that

819
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 1: was pretty cool. And then maybe Eli gave them one

820
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: last gift. He gave his teammates one last gift because

821
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,479
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer handed him the game ball. They all wanted

822
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: a speech and they got one. And at the end, uh,

823
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: you know, Eli said, celebrating a winning here with you

824
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: guys is still the best feeling in the world. I'll

825
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: see you on Wednesday. And I thought that was great,

826
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: because like, oh, that's nice, that's nice. He and he

827
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 1: and Pat Shermer had orchestrated this, and Shermer said afterwards,

828
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,800
Speaker 1: was like, no, I was not inclined to give anybody

829
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: the day off where you know, we're a three win

830
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: football team, but I wasn't gonna argue with him on

831
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: this day. And so Michael Thomas was asked about this

832
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: after the game, and uh, and he goes Eli for president, right, Uh, well,

833
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: maybe not president, but to me, he is the greatest

834
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: quarterback in Giants history. Uh, and one of the best

835
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: big game quarterbacks we've ever seen. And in my book,

836
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. Yeah, I think all that's true.

837
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Speaker 1: I think you will be a Hall of Famer. I

838
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: think when you think of the New York Giants, if

839
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: you just said first player that pops into your head

840
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: New York Giants, I think it would be Lt would

841
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 1: be one that people would say. And I think Eli

842
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: would be number two. I really think that's kind of

843
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: the two. You talk about the faces of an organization,

844
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 1: different eras obviously, um super bowls for both um. But man,

845
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: it's uh, he's been there. Gosh, rhet you go back

846
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: two thousand four, I mean we're two thousand nineteen. That

847
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: is a long, long ton with a franchise. Look, I

848
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: hope he get helped, he does what he wants to do.

849
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: I know there's some talk to he, you know, maybe

850
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: he goes play somewhere else for a year. But man,

851
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: he just feels like as somebody who grew up in

852
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: San Diego, who watched the Guy, like Tony Gwynn, like

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Speaker 1: I just he didn't belong in any other colors. And

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Speaker 1: I feel like with Eli Manning, I almost like to

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Speaker 1: see him say, you know what, let's go do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to do. Whatever, He'll be successful, what ever

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Speaker 1: he wants to do, take that next step. And I

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Speaker 1: don't really want to see Eli Manning in another jersey,

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Speaker 1: just selfishly there. All right, Well, that's gonna do it

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Speaker 1: for us. Got through the takeaways, Rhett. Great to have

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Speaker 1: Bucky joining us from Afar, but he will be back

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Speaker 1: tomorrow for the Senior Bowl roster Field show. Uh, that

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Speaker 1: will become on your way, so be on the lookout

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Speaker 1: for that. That's gonna do it for us. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: you guys listening watching. We'll see you next time right

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